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What if your animals are picking up more of your energy than you realize? And what if nature has been communicating with us all along?
In this episode of Fairy & Flame, we sit down with intuitive healer and animal communicator Debs for a fascinating conversation about energy healing, animal communication, pendulums, dowsing, and the powerful connection between our emotional and physical bodies.
Debs Atkins shares how she works with both people and animals to uncover energetic and emotional imbalances, using modalities including chirokinetic therapy, dowsing, and intuitive communication. We explore how intention plays a role in healing, why actively participating in our own healing matters, and how cutting energetic cords can help us release connections we may no longer need to carry.
But some of the most surprising moments come from the animals.
Debs explains how our pets can absorb our emotions and energy, reflect what is happening within us, and even act as guides and teachers. We also dive into animal communication—including a very memorable conversation about Bagel the pig—and why calmness and openness are essential when learning to truly listen.
The conversation eventually brings us back to one of our greatest healers: nature. Debs shares how the natural world communicates with us, supports us through grief, and continually invites us back into connection. We also explore the spirit of Alice Adams, (Kathryn's niece who is in heaven) the signs and messages that can appear after loss, and the idea that the world around us may be speaking far more often than we realize.
To learn more about Debs or to book a session with her visit: https://www.naturesmessage.love/
✨ In this episode:
• Animal communication and what our pets may be trying to tell us
• How animals absorb and reflect human energy
• Pendulums, dowsing and chirokinetic healing
• The connection between emotional and physical health
• Cutting energetic cords and releasing emotional attachments
• Why intention matters in energy healing
• Nature as a tool for healing and spiritual connection
• Grief, signs, and communication beyond the physical
• Bagel the pig and the wisdom our animals bring into our lives
This conversation is a beautiful reminder that healing doesn’t always happen through words. Sometimes it comes through an animal, a tree, a sign from nature—or simply learning how to become quiet enough to listen.
✨Spend $100 or more at https://fairyandflame.com and get 20% off your order!
✨ Fairy & Flame: Building up the collective consciousness of our world, one pod at a time.
Subscribe to Fairy & Flame for conversations exploring spirituality, intuition, consciousness, healing, astrology, and the unseen forces shaping our lives.
In this episode of Fairy & Flame, we sit down with intuitive healer and animal communicator Debs for a fascinating conversation about energy healing, animal communication, pendulums, dowsing, and the powerful connection between our emotional and physical bodies.
Debs Atkins shares how she works with both people and animals to uncover energetic and emotional imbalances, using modalities including chirokinetic therapy, dowsing, and intuitive communication. We explore how intention plays a role in healing, why actively participating in our own healing matters, and how cutting energetic cords can help us release connections we may no longer need to carry.
But some of the most surprising moments come from the animals.
Debs explains how our pets can absorb our emotions and energy, reflect what is happening within us, and even act as guides and teachers. We also dive into animal communication—including a very memorable conversation about Bagel the pig—and why calmness and openness are essential when learning to truly listen.
The conversation eventually brings us back to one of our greatest healers: nature. Debs shares how the natural world communicates with us, supports us through grief, and continually invites us back into connection. We also explore the spirit of Alice Adams, (Kathryn's niece who is in heaven) the signs and messages that can appear after loss, and the idea that the world around us may be speaking far more often than we realize.
To learn more about Debs or to book a session with her visit: https://www.naturesmessage.love/
✨ In this episode:
• Animal communication and what our pets may be trying to tell us
• How animals absorb and reflect human energy
• Pendulums, dowsing and chirokinetic healing
• The connection between emotional and physical health
• Cutting energetic cords and releasing emotional attachments
• Why intention matters in energy healing
• Nature as a tool for healing and spiritual connection
• Grief, signs, and communication beyond the physical
• Bagel the pig and the wisdom our animals bring into our lives
This conversation is a beautiful reminder that healing doesn’t always happen through words. Sometimes it comes through an animal, a tree, a sign from nature—or simply learning how to become quiet enough to listen.
✨Spend $100 or more at https://fairyandflame.com and get 20% off your order!
✨ Fairy & Flame: Building up the collective consciousness of our world, one pod at a time.
Subscribe to Fairy & Flame for conversations exploring spirituality, intuition, consciousness, healing, astrology, and the unseen forces shaping our lives.
To celebrate this episode, we’re offering our listeners 20% off orders of $100 or more. Use code: CANDLE at https://fairyandflame.com
Before we dive into today’s episode, we want to share one of the most intentional creations we’ve ever made — our Ascension Candle.
We didn’t create this just to smell good…
we created it to shift energy.
This candle was designed as a ritual tool — something you can light when you meditate, journal, cleanse your space, or simply need a moment to come back to yourself.
The blend is layered and grounding, yet elevating — built from clean, non-toxic ingredients and infused with a complex combination of pure essential oils chosen to calm the nervous system, clear stagnant energy, and gently lift your frequency.
It’s the candle we light when:
• we record the podcast
• we reset after a long day
• we need clarity
• or when the room just feels off
And once it’s finished, the vessel is intentionally created to be up-cycled into a keepsake or ritual container — because nothing about this piece is disposable.
Show your support and purchase one of our hand poured, clean, non toxic Fairy & Flame Ascension Candles at https://fairyandflame.com. Use code CANDLE for 20% off orders of $100 or more!
Before we dive into today’s episode, we want to share one of the most intentional creations we’ve ever made — our Ascension Candle.
We didn’t create this just to smell good…
we created it to shift energy.
This candle was designed as a ritual tool — something you can light when you meditate, journal, cleanse your space, or simply need a moment to come back to yourself.
The blend is layered and grounding, yet elevating — built from clean, non-toxic ingredients and infused with a complex combination of pure essential oils chosen to calm the nervous system, clear stagnant energy, and gently lift your frequency.
It’s the candle we light when:
• we record the podcast
• we reset after a long day
• we need clarity
• or when the room just feels off
And once it’s finished, the vessel is intentionally created to be up-cycled into a keepsake or ritual container — because nothing about this piece is disposable.
Show your support and purchase one of our hand poured, clean, non toxic Fairy & Flame Ascension Candles at https://fairyandflame.com. Use code CANDLE for 20% off orders of $100 or more!
Creators and Guests
Host
Kasey Hodges
Hi, I’m Kasey Hodges—brand strategist, truth-seeker, and lover of meaningful conversation. With 25+ years in marketing, storytelling, and creative direction, I’ve built a career helping brands speak with clarity, integrity, and heart. I grew up in the Midwest, raised in a Christian lineage — the legacy of faith, fire, and spiritual discernment lives on in everything I do. That foundation taught me how to listen for what’s real, to seek what’s authentic, and to hold space for transformation. These days, I’m as passionate about soulful alignment as I am about strong messaging. Whether I’m guiding a guest through a vulnerable conversation or helping a brand uncover its deeper purpose, I’m committed to creating a clear and ethical channel for communication—one that helps people grow step by step, from the inside out. I believe in sharing what holds love, what carries weight, and what points us back to the heart of things—with mindfulness, intention, and just the right touch of magic. When I’m not prepping for a pod, you’ll find me outside—tending to the earth, the animals, and my own spirit. I have a deep love and respect for nature and the wisdom it offers. My little backyard farm is home to Bagel the pig, a flock of sassy chickens, three loyal and energetic dogs, and a cat who may or may not be in charge of all of us.
Host
Kathryn Camsey
I’m Kathryn Camsey—a soulful voice rising in the spiritual space. I’m a British-born TV host turned intuitive guide, and my journey from glittering red carpets to deep spiritual rebirth led me to my life’s true calling: helping others heal, awaken, and remember their magic. Though my life once looked picture-perfect, it was deeply shaken by unimaginable loss—my beloved niece was murdered, I faced a canceled wedding, lost my best friend to cancer, and experienced a health crisis that brought me to my knees. But I chose not to stay broken. I chose transformation. What followed was a decade-long soul journey of deep inner work, study, and spiritual expansion. I explored everything from chakras and crystals to astrology, the divine feminine, meditation, angels, affirmations, and the healing power of joy. These weren’t just tools I studied—I lived them, practiced them, taught them to my daughter, and now I share them with heartfelt purpose. I’m bringing my sparkle, wisdom, and fairy-touched spirit to the podcast. Blending practical tools with powerful storytelling, emotional honesty, and high-vibration energy, I aim to speak like a friend, guide like a mentor, and inspire like a muse. Every conversation is meant to feel like a cozy cup of tea with your wisest, most magical soul-sister.
Guest
Debs Atkins
I am Debs, I am a healer, a therapist, a teacher, a flower and herb grower and am mostly at the beckoned call of my aged rescue dog, wayward chickens and demanding ducks. Like so many, I had a troublesome childhood and have spent many years on a healing journey – as we all are – meeting amazing people, reading some wonderful books and also meeting some dubious people. I have cried a lot but laughed more and am still on that healing journey.
What is Fairy & Flame?
Fairy & Flame was created by Kasey Hodges and Kathryn Camsey, two kindred spirits from Leiper’s Fork, TN whose shared love of storytelling, creativity, and mystical curiosity brought them together. Kathryn and Kasey weave their unique backgrounds into soulful conversations on consciousness, creativity, healing, and ritual. Our mission: “Building up the collective consciousness of our world, one pod at a time.”
At its heart, Fairy & Flame is about connection—sparking curiosity, nurturing authenticity, and holding space for the magic that happens when spirit meets story.