He wasn't drinking because he loved alcohol. He was drinking because he didn't think people would like the real him.
In Episode 14 of Beyond the Gray, Kari welcomes Billy Lahr, host of the Mindful Midlife Crisis podcast, joining live from Seoul, South Korea. Billy shares his full story: growing up in small-town Minnesota where the bar was the Sunday restaurant, building a drinking identity in college, showing up hungover to teach ninth graders, and the moment anxiety, depression, and suicidal ideation forced him to take a hard look at what alcohol was actually doing.
What followed was years of "sober school years," traveling the world alcohol-free, one bad date that became his zero day, and now at 1,000 days of sobriety. This conversation is raw, funny, and deeply relatable.
In this episode you'll hear:
• How Billy created a drinking personality to get people to like him and what it actually cost him
• The 180-day challenge that turned his mental health around
• Why he did "sober school years" from 2013 to 2021 and what he learned from each one
• The date that became his zero day and why "F the zero" keeps him going
• Why Billy believes "follow your passion" is terrible advice and what to follow instead
• The free writing practice (started in Minneapolis jails) that's now connecting people worldwide
• Kari's personal connection to free writing through her late friend Chris
• The hidden cost of staying in a gray area: living small and giving up agency
• Why comfort is fine but complacency will cost you everything
If you've ever used alcohol to fit in, to feel confident, or to become someone you thought the world wanted you to be, this conversation was made for you.
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GUEST: Billy Lahr
Mindful Midlife Crisis Podcast (120+ episodes)
Email: billy@mindfulmidlifecrisis.com
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RESOURCES MENTIONED
Beyond the Gray Episode 3: Identity
Beyond the Gray Episode 11: Stop Calling Yourself an Alcoholic
Beyond the Gray Episode 13: Gray Area Drinking 101
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If this episode hit home, share it with someone who's been performing a version of themselves that only shows up after the third drink. Sometimes hearing someone else's story is the permission we need to start writing our own.
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TOPICS COVERED
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What is Beyond the Gray?
You’ve built something solid. A business. A reputation. A life that looks the part.
But somewhere along the way, something started feeling off.
Not broken. Not a crisis. Just… not right.
Maybe the drinking has become more of a habit than you'd like to admit.
Maybe the marriage is stable but not exactly alive.
Maybe you're still driven, but the fire feels different.
You're functioning at a high level — and wondering why that still isn't enough.
Beyond the Gray explores the gray areas of life that successful people rarely talk about — including gray area drinking, midlife identity shifts, relationships, faith, health, and purpose.
Host Kari Schwear, founder of GrayTonic, helps business owners, leaders, and high-achievers understand what’s driving their habits, reconnect with what actually matters, and lead their lives with the same intention they bring to their work.
This isn’t a sobriety podcast.
And there are no labels here.
Just clarity, honesty, and conversations most people are too busy performing to have.
While many of Kari’s clients are men over 50 navigating these transitions, the ideas explored here resonate with anyone ready to move beyond the gray.
New episodes every Tuesday.