2. Justin Frankel, creator of Winamp and Reaper

Show Notes

Justin shares how he created Winamp and sold it to AOL at age 20 and tells us about his current project, digital audio workstation (DAW) Reaper.

Segments

[03:16] The genesis of Winamp

[11:07] Winamp whips the llama's ass

[14:06] Nullsoft

[16:27] Winamp as a platform

[23:16] The business side of Winamp

[24:11] What was it like to work at AOL?

[27:06] Why Justin doesn't use streaming services

[30:03] Justin's website

[32:06] Why Justin created Reaper

[35:48] Shipping v1 of Reaper

[37:02] Reaper is built by just a few people

[38:53] Cross-platform codebase

[40:48] Reaper as a platform

[43:42] Future of Reaper

[44:40] AI in Reaper

[47:09] Questions lightning round

[53:36] Book recommendations

Show notes

Where to find Justin

• Mastodon — [e-mail]

• Justin’s website

• Ask Justin Frankel

Books

• Masters of Doom by David Kushner

• Nona the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir

• The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu

• Catch-22 by Joseph Heller

• Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions by Edwin A. Abbott

Podcasts

• Interview with Justin on the Internet History Podcast

Software

• Winamp

• Reaper

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Arnab Deka

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Ilya Bezdelev

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