Engineering Enablement by Abi Noda

This week we spoke with Nils Loodin, Platform Product Manager at Spotify. Nils describes how his role in platform product management works, including unique challenges, approaches, and career considerations. Nils also discusses some of the recent changes within Spotify's platform organization, including shifting teams from tech-centric to journey-centric. 

Discussion points:
  • (1:30) How Nils came into his role
  • (3:59) How “developer experience” came into the picture at Spotify
  • (5:30) How the Platform team is structured
  • (8:52) Unique challenges of the Platform PM role
  • (12:51) Defining the Platform PM’s focus
  • (16:39) Staying close to their customers
  • (21:09) Optimal background for someone in this role
  • (24:43) Attracting PMs into Platform roles
  • (29:40) How it is that Spotify’s leadership invests in developer experience
  • (31:19) How a recent reorg shifted Platform’s focus 
  • (41:29) Improving onboarding for mobile engineers
  • (47:33) Measuring onboarding 
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Creators & Guests

Host
Abi Noda
Abi is the founder and CEO of DX (getdx.com), which helps engineering leaders measure and improve developer experience. Abi formerly founded Pull Panda, which was acquired by GitHub.

What is Engineering Enablement by Abi Noda?

This is a weekly podcast focused on developer productivity and the teams and leaders dedicated to improving it. Topics include in-depth interviews with Platform and DevEx teams, as well as the latest research and approaches on measuring developer productivity. The EE podcast is hosted by Abi Noda, the founder and CEO of DX (getdx.com) and published researcher focused on developing measurement methods to help organizations improve developer experience and productivity.