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TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing.
Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.
What is the top story today? Thievery at PSA. On October 13, thieves broke into a FedEx truck outside of PSA's California headquarters. Wait. They were waiting outside of the headquarters?
Speaker 1:That's shooting fish in a barrel. That's crazy. I mean, seems pretty smart.
Speaker 2:That is smart. Like, the the... It's the... It's actually But you think similar to money Yeah. In the in in the sense of, like, how dense.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Go to the bank. Go to the mint. They they basically rob the mint. So, yeah, these are trading cards.
Speaker 1:Extremely valuable.
Speaker 2:A lot of them sold. Some...
Speaker 1:To the market. To the market.
Speaker 2:Some people find them extremely valuable.
Speaker 1:So PSA, of course, grades the trading cards and the FedEx truck outside of the California headquarters was robbed, and the thieves stole nearly $1,000,000 of graded trading cards that were being shipped back to customers. Here are the facts. FedEx truck was parked right outside PSA's grading center where they actually rate the cards for their quality in Santa Ana before it was broken into. The driver left the truck unattended for sixty to ninety minutes and returned to find the truck. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That he's doing. This is kind of an own goal at this point.
Speaker 2:No. Inside job.
Speaker 1:Inside job. Okay. Maybe get the tinfoil hat out. Inside job. So, the truck driver left the truck attended for sixty to ninety minutes and returned.
Speaker 1:Oh, no. They broke into my truck. The lock was broken. Three pallets were stolen from the truck full of already graded cards. Two pallets had around a 100 packages each in them, and the third pallet had 50 packages totaling 250 packages of cards stolen.
Speaker 1:The value of the first two pallets is estimated to be around $963,000
Speaker 2:That's to some people.
Speaker 1:To some people.
Speaker 2:Like Dylan, our president. He values trading cards.
Speaker 1:Potentially higher than this. PSA is still figuring out the value of the third. The one thing worked against the thieves is that every PSA graded card has a unique certification number, and PSA has deactivated the certification numbers of the stolen cards. So if you go try to sell the cards, they'll say, oh, that particular SKU has been stolen. They would say
Speaker 2:this card is worthless.
Speaker 1:Worthless. Yeah. Basically, it probably won't stop the thieves from selling them on black markets. Who's buying black market trading cards? For the collectors that were affected, PSA says it's figuring out compensation based on the fair market value of the cards, but the payout is capped at the insurance limits the collectors chose at checkout.
Speaker 1:Some of the effectors... Woah. Woah. So if you send your cars into PSA Nah. You got the insurance.
Speaker 1:I feel like
Speaker 2:PSA's gotta gotta This happened. Beat this one.
Speaker 1:Yeah. This happened like
Speaker 2:Your driver was incompetent.
Speaker 1:No. No. It wasn't their drivers. It's the FedEx driver.
Speaker 2:I know. But you you used the service
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:That was completely incompetent. So you think PSA is on
Speaker 1:the hook?
Speaker 2:I think PSA should take it up with FedEx.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah. You would think that PSA's insurance
Speaker 2:covered the property.... The box with the extra insurance.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:A lot... Like, a lot of that stuff is... A lot of those, like, check the box for insurance things are basically scams.
Speaker 1:It seems like they they they they they designed this properly.
Speaker 2:I know. But they should ensure... Their job is to ship valuable trading cards
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Valuable around the world.
Speaker 1:In quotes.
Speaker 2:Use every every shipment should be fully insured.
Speaker 1:What are we doing here? What is this? Okay. This is a one piece character. It's from anime.
Speaker 1:That was valued at $500,000. Just In quotes. Some people are paying $500,000 for a one piece trading card. Not Jordan, though. Where's this Tortuga?
Speaker 1:The FedEx heist is bigger than we think. Just one card in the truck is valued at 500,000. You can see it here. Let me know, Jordy, how much would you pay for this card? I just added it to the timeline.
Speaker 1:This is from 1999. It's a Zoro first stage. I want the fair market value from, not PSA, but JLH. What you got? How much are you paying for this?
Speaker 2:Like, where do you even start?
Speaker 1:You start with a number. A dollar sign and then a number.
Speaker 2:What do you think? I would rather have $1 than this trading card.
Speaker 1:Okay. So 99¢ and you're a buyer?
Speaker 2:I don't even care that I could go and sell it for 500. I'd I'd I'd lean on the dollar.
Speaker 1:You're you're out of it? Okay. You have respect for the dollar. Anyway,
Speaker 2:Darren... I just think I I I... I'm so fascinated so fascinated by the hobby. Yeah. I do not understand it.
Speaker 2:If these cards are so valuable Yeah. Why aren't you using Brink's?
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. That's a good point.
Speaker 2:You're gonna trust FedEx?
Speaker 1:They should be using Brink's. That's actually a good take. In other interesting news, former Nikola CEO, Trevor Milton, is starting a private jet company. He was pardoned by Donald Trump last year after being convicted of fraud. Preston Holland, the private jet guy, has a take here.
Speaker 1:He says, tonight's cyber jet will unveil their new light jet model, the s j 36, supposed to do New York to Los Angeles nonstop in a light jet faster than any competitor. The CEO is Trevor Milton, formerly of Nikola, the electric truck startup. I'll be there tonight, and he will make sure to get picks. Now, I was very confused about this because I was
Speaker 2:As like you should be.
Speaker 1:I was like, okay. He was pardoned a year ago. Even if he wasn't... Even if the fraud allegations and and conviction and and over... Or pardon didn't happen, like...
Speaker 2:He's got a clean record.
Speaker 1:It just takes a decade to start a plane company, often two two decades. It takes forever to get
Speaker 2:FAA approval.... John. Yes. Because cyber jet has been I believe Wow. Has been FAA certified for quite a long time.
Speaker 1:Yes. The the the the history is fascinating. So he basically bought the remains of a private jet program that had already consumed more than $700,000,000 in development spending, and that company had achieved FAA certification. So Ed Swearingen Swearingen invents the airplane, this particular airplane, the cyber jet, between 1986 and 1991. He was an experienced aviation engineer behind the Merlin and Metro turboprops, And he...
Speaker 1:His his thesis was the same thesis that Trevor Milton is pitching today. An extremely fast private jet, small, initially called the s a 30 with Gulfstream providing early backing. Engineers stretch the fuselage, redesign components, and spend years trying to
Speaker 3:certify...
Speaker 2:Look at the lasers, John.
Speaker 1:It's very...
Speaker 2:If you were worried about buying a plane from Trevor Milton, don't be because the lasers are out of this world. This
Speaker 1:is actually a very...
Speaker 2:They're going everywhere.
Speaker 1:How are they doing those lasers in front of the plane? The background looks like a, LED wall of some sort, but what's going on in front? Do they have, like, LED wires throughout the crowd?
Speaker 2:Circus mode.
Speaker 1:This is a circus. Yeah. This is on... Akin to the Tesla Roadster launch. Very, very entertaining.
Speaker 1:So by 2008, cumulative spending reportedly exceeded $700,000,000, and the jet achieved FAA certification in October 2005. So the first customer airplane was delivered in 2006. Dubai investors acquired a controlling interest in 2008, renaming the company Emmy Vest Aerospace, but production never scaled. They only built about 10 aircraft across the program. Production ceased in in 2009, and Emmy Vest filed for bankruptcy in 2010.
Speaker 1:Metalcraft had manufacturing expertise, tooling and the aircraft's type certificate, but struggled to restart production despite years of promised upgrades. In 2019, an updated SJ-30i test aircraft flew, but large scale commercial deliveries still didn't materialize. Then, an investor group led by Milton acquired CyberJet in 2024, which feels pre pardoned. I don't remember when the... Didn't the pardon happen in 2025?
Speaker 1:So he was out there doing this deal before. That's pretty crazy. And his role as CEO became public in 2025. So he he began promoting the company as a broader aerospace platform with the s j 34, s j 36, in house avionics, which is sort
Speaker 2:of wild.... Crazy thing. Yeah. This is the craziest thing to me.
Speaker 1:That he wants
Speaker 2:to do avionics.... Go and say, like, hey, we have this this plane that's already FAA certified, and we're gonna make them and we're gonna sell them. Yeah. But instead, he's going for this sort of, like, autonomous Yep. Vision.
Speaker 2:Yep. He's not gonna use a Garmin cockpit or a Honeywell cockpit. Yep. He's like, I gotta do it myself. Yep.
Speaker 2:And I could understand this a bit more. Mhmm. If if the whole angle was like, we're not here to reinvent the wheel. Mhmm. We just wanna make...
Speaker 2:We're just gonna make and sell a plane.
Speaker 1:But what's the differentiator? Why would anyone buy this?
Speaker 2:Well, I don't... So the thing is like, if you were gonna buy an aircraft
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you're going through that process, these are some of the most educated, discerning buyers. Right? It is a massive purchase. Your life is dependent on the quality Yep. Liability, all these things.
Speaker 2:And I would go out on a limb and say that every single person that is in the market to buy a mid sized jet like this
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Will do a little research on the company, they might do a little research on the CEO and realize that
Speaker 1:He was part of
Speaker 2:the company.
Speaker 1:Did nothing wrong.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Technically. Due for a major comeback.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But but He's so comeback could have been, like, yeah, we're gonna use we're gonna use the technology that every other plane relies on. Yeah. And it... The the specs are pretty solid.
Speaker 2:Like, the performance seems good. Yeah. It doesn't seem obvious that you need to reinvent the cockpit and... While you're just trying to prove that anyone should fly in a vehicle that you create. Right?
Speaker 2:You're famous for creating a vehicle that you that you rolled downhill.
Speaker 1:So what would be the strategy to sell the first unit? Just go really cheap, like low margin?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I just I just don't see I don't see it as a selling point of, like, we were reinventing the cockpit.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Also, wonder, like, how the autonomous features can actually benchmark. Is the idea that at 14,000,000, you can buy this and fly it yourself, but then use the autopilot to go take a nap in the back or something? Like...
Speaker 2:Don't think buyers I don't think buyers in this category are even that worried about like, oh, I I wanna have one pilot versus two. Like, it's just not that material. It's not that material of a cost when you think about flying over the course of a year and doing hundreds of hours in the air. Yeah. And so I just think it's like a pretty rough.
Speaker 2:I think it's a rough rough rough pitch. And I just... Again, I don't I don't see why you would buy this
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Product unless it was the only product in the category.
Speaker 1:Yeah. At the same time, I do like the idea of buying something that's already been certified, something that has a lot of... Vlad makes a good point.
Speaker 2:He is post fall.
Speaker 1:So you're just playing, I think the I think the pitch is that it's it's already been certified. So all the safety concerns, does it have a real engine? Like, it... They have a partnership with Williams. Like, it's a Williams engine.
Speaker 1:Like, it's gonna be FAA certified. And so you're basically... The reason you buy right now is because it's going to be a good value because they have to get some planes delivered.
Speaker 2:Dan is making my point. He says the quote cost conscious private jet flyer.
Speaker 1:You'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. I don't know. I saw TBPN buying a 2004 Gulfstream and saying, it's the exact same plane as the brand new one. It's 90% cheaper, and the only difference is the USB ports are USB a instead of USB c.
Speaker 1:He's like, it's the same thing. A lot of people don't care because, like, the safety is the safety standard, and that's not really where the progression happens. The progression happens on, like, slight comfort details, slight... Like, how quiet it is, maybe the Wi Fi. Like, via...
Speaker 1:You can see what they're advertising. Heated and cooled seats. Like, that... That's so minor. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Look. I'll tell you the most... One of the most bearish. Yeah. Parts of this.
Speaker 2:What? Is that I think if this had potential and if and if Trevor wasn't all had no cattle Yeah. Andreessen would be backing up. That's I mean, crazy. Andreessen would be backing up the truck.
Speaker 2:Right? They did Adam Neumann. They did Oh, true. These sort of like post fall founders Yeah. That Yeah.
Speaker 2:That were they they all have their flaws, but in in many ways, like, their strengths are so overpowering. Yeah. And I just don't see it. I don't... I just can't see Andreessen
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Getting involved here for a bunch of reasons.
Speaker 1:I don't know. If you see these flying around, my total victory for him. He's certainly... You know, people love a comeback story. I do wonder what will happen...
Speaker 2:Think the company's up a creek without a paddle.
Speaker 1:Okay. I think this is just a boring jet sales business. He's gotta actually make them and sell them, but the plane's already approved.
Speaker 2:It's a zero.
Speaker 1:It's a zero. Okay. We'll see. We'll see. I I I think the demand is is really high for private aviation.
Speaker 1:And I think that it's not that unreasonable to revive another architecture, even if it's a little outdated, sell it at a reasonable price while there's increased demand for the other planes that are gonna be trading above market. I don't know. It's for adrenaline junkies.
Speaker 2:That's the pitch. Robert has a pitch.
Speaker 1:Okay. I like it.
Speaker 2:Private aviation for adrenaline junkies. Yeah. The thrill of not having decades of operational excellence
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And reliability Very rough.
Speaker 4:Well
Speaker 1:in the skies. Andy Kessler went off in The Wall Street Journal opinion pages over commercial air travel. We'll see what you agree or disagree with. He says, have some manners, people. We're too deep in the era of me, me, me to care about common decency and courtesy.
Speaker 1:Is politeness dead? Before takeoff on a recent flight, the woman next to me spoke with gusto on several phone calls. Annoying, though common, but in... Then in the air for the next two hours, she loudly dictated text messages into her phone, including, can we split it into four lots, question mark, and don't forget to buy organic blueberries, exclamation point. I put on noise canceling earbuds.
Speaker 1:Didn't help. Then music. Still hurt her. My normally potent stink eye glares failed. Then I cranked Metallica's The Unforgiven to eleven.
Speaker 1:I could still hear her. Argh. I often encounter the expression polite society. I'm still searching. Yes.
Speaker 1:I should have said something, but I was seething so much it would have included many of George Carlin's seven words you can't say on television. And why should it be on me? I was taught to be polite, worry about others, hold doors, give up subway seats. I can't remember the last time someone held a door for me. Plain etiquette is long gone.
Speaker 1:But dictating out loud when she could hear, when she could type is an irritating loophole. Dictating is on par with eating a smelly enchilada with a stink... With a stench that lingers until somewhere over Nebraska. Sadly, airplanes are the new Greyhound buses. With apologies to Greyhound.
Speaker 1:People are often underdressed, unbathed, and over served. And anyone who gave permission to go barefoot once the plane takes off... And who gave anyone permission to go barefoot once the plane takes off? With Starlink Wi Fi and artificial intelligence needing instructions is the end game talking versus non talking sections on planes like quiet cars on trains? How about common decency instead?
Speaker 1:What do you think? You want a quiet section on the plane? Like a train?
Speaker 2:One of my recent public flights, a guy was Sure. A guy was just a guy was just watching, like, scrolling reels. Was me.
Speaker 1:I was next to you. I was watching Nitro Circus reels.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You were you were over here. Okay. But this other guy was to my left. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And he was just scrolling reels.
Speaker 1:Was like
Speaker 2:a good feed. Full volume.
Speaker 1:If it's a good feed...
Speaker 2:I wasn't paying that much attention.
Speaker 1:I like I like a little spy scroll. I like a little second hand scroll. Take a take a trip down someone else's someone else's algorithm.
Speaker 2:The experience... Like, part of this is, like, the experience of of being jammed with with hundreds of people you don't know Yeah. In a little tube
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then spending hours of... Exactly. And then spending... It's already so bad Yeah. That when these other little things happen Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's like, you know, how much worse could it be?
Speaker 1:Well Absolutely going on.
Speaker 2:News, John.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 2:A lot of these people that he's referencing Yeah. Have no manners. Yeah. They love reading the Wall Street Journal opinion section.
Speaker 1:For sure.
Speaker 2:And they'll be reading this article.
Speaker 1:You're gonna read this article.
Speaker 2:And they'll be reflecting. Yeah. Make... Be making changes in their lives. Yeah.
Speaker 2:In be... That that... It's very possible that the next flight that woman's on where she's dictating into her phone and taking calls, in between dictation Yeah. She flips open, she reads this article, and and she never does it again.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I think we should make a physical button of the beep button like this. Yahoo. It's just the beep. Someone says something you don't like, you can beep it out.
Speaker 1:I think that's the way.
Speaker 2:That's the way.
Speaker 1:Well, staying in the world of aviation, United CEO says it should cost more not to sit in the middle seat. Scott Kirby of United Airlines said it's it's expensive to fly airplanes and that airfares may have to rise further. So you get a discount.
Speaker 2:So this guy Yeah. Waits for Delta to get in an insane Wi Fi crisis and just immediately is like, yep. We're raising prices.
Speaker 1:We're raising prices. Yeah. For a long time, I said our goal is to be the best airline in the history of aviation. I think we've become the best, not at everything, but in totality, I think we're the best. He took over United during the COVID nineteen pandemic, the worst crisis the airline had faced since 09/11, things have largely turned around for the industry since then, and United stock has risen more than 300% during Kirby's tenure.
Speaker 1:Pretty good. While things may be looking up for United, for many travelers, flying is miserable. Delays, lost luggage, chaotic boarding processes, and cramped seats, and people talking, dictating next to you as we heard from Andy Kessler. It's United's job and his to take the stress away, mister Kirby said. As a father of seven children, woah, gong worthy moment.
Speaker 1:Mister Kirby often looks at air travel through a parent's eyes, investing in better Wi Fi, having more movies and TV shows available, and developing a user friendly app. He said all help to reduce the stress of traveling, especially with children. Tyler, give me your airline movie tier list. You said that you have strong opinions about what movies are available on different airlines. Is that correct?
Speaker 4:Well, so, I mean, a lot of them don't have screens at all. So I I think, honestly, like, I prefer the screen on the seat.
Speaker 1:You do?
Speaker 4:It's a better experience.
Speaker 1:Okay. It's
Speaker 4:more, like, plane like. It just feels like you're on... Otherwise, I'm just, like, watching movie on my phone. It's...
Speaker 1:Okay. You like the screen in the
Speaker 4:back....
Speaker 2:Already puts a lot
Speaker 4:of them kind of at the bottom. I think Southwest really has
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 4:Screens. Feel like
Speaker 1:JetBlue was early to the TV and the headrest.
Speaker 2:Sure. Yeah. How... Yeah. I completely forgot that we we used to live in a world where there would just be the TV like for a section.
Speaker 1:Oh, with the hive. Yeah. Yeah. Watches the same thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Real sense of community. We don't know how to do that anymore. That was great.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And you'd look over... Again, this was the era where, you know, people had manners too. And you look over to the stranger to the left and the right and
Speaker 1:you're like, that's crazy movie. Right? Oh, yeah. We're watching The Fugitive or something.
Speaker 4:I never experienced that. There was there was one screen for the entire...
Speaker 2:How... They would be... They were like in the in the in the back of the plane where where I always was was. There might have been, like, four screens. So you could think of, like...
Speaker 1:So they'd be mounted into the ceiling?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Did you ever fly on
Speaker 2:a plane? But there'd be... You probably did...
Speaker 1:Never? Wow.
Speaker 2:I don't remember. Silver
Speaker 1:spoon.
Speaker 4:Okay. But... So so for me...
Speaker 1:Really quickly. Yeah. Consolation prize, where they have the little grabber that holds your phone. How how much of a consolation prize is that for you? You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:Right? Yes. Where there's no screen, but there's a hook that you can mount your phone into.
Speaker 4:I mean, yeah. Obviously, it's better than nothing, but it's still... I I think I I like the screen.
Speaker 1:Okay. You
Speaker 4:like... Although the screen sometimes bad because hard to connect your your headphones. But... Okay. Okay.
Speaker 4:So for for actual movie selection, I think Delta is clearly s tier.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 4:They're far and away the best. They have a bunch of, like, kind of arthouse Criterion movies on They
Speaker 2:have a... Name one arthouse movie. Let's see. They they have
Speaker 4:a lot of, like, old... They they have some Ingmar Bergman movies on there.
Speaker 2:But name one movie. Seventh Seal. I believe that was That was good. That was a good score. Test.
Speaker 2:Many people would
Speaker 1:have passed.
Speaker 4:And then I would go... I think United
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 4:Is behind. Yeah. Probably b tier.
Speaker 1:But they got Starling now, you can watch anything.
Speaker 4:That's true. And then after that, it's kind of just toss-up. Don't know.
Speaker 1:Do you think Delta flight attendants should be able to order passengers to close window shades on daytime flights. It's too bright in here for everyone. Even though you paid for the window seat, you probably paid extra.
Speaker 2:You don't... Absolutely not.
Speaker 1:So if you sit in the window seat, you're the master...
Speaker 2:That's like the final freedom that you have on a plane. Right? All your freedoms are taken away. But if you have the window to seat, you've got a little bit of power left.
Speaker 1:But what if the person next to you
Speaker 4:is And you trying
Speaker 2:should just. Right? You shouldn't... You should be... I I think you should have managers...
Speaker 1:Oh, so you're saying it's a responsibility. So you need to you need to communicate
Speaker 2:with person next you. I think it's more like if you're... You you should plan your Yeah. Like, you're... You you should be planning how much light you're letting in based on like time zones and...
Speaker 1:Much how much how much research should you do on your on your seat mate before you sit down? Like... Because you could sit down and have a whole conversation about, you know, what's your level of sleepiness? What's your level of interest in my personal Instagram reel feed? Maybe they would delight you to watch me scroll reels.
Speaker 1:Maybe you want me to put on a movie. Because sometimes people would put on a movie and it's too salacious next to you. And even though they're on their phone or they're on their screen, I'm like, I don't want that there. I don't like that. But sometimes people pick a really good movie, not just a good movie that I wanna watch, but a good movie that I wanna glance at every once while.
Speaker 1:You know? Like, if somebody's putting on The Dark Knight, I'm like, oh, I'm definitely gonna, you know, glance
Speaker 2:over the... Extended trailer.
Speaker 1:Exactly. You might. Exactly.
Speaker 2:Pull it up yourself.
Speaker 1:So so I think if you're being really, really courteous, you should you should have a whole discussion with your seat mate and say, hey, look, I got the window seat. Yeah. But we need to have a negotiation here. We need to have a discussion about what are you trying to accomplish on this flight. Are you trying to sit?
Speaker 1:Are you trying to just enjoy the light? Maybe you're low on vitamin d? Maybe you're trying to sleep? Let's have a discussion. Let's see what's...
Speaker 1:What what makes sense for everyone here.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. I would I would almost certainly take it a step farther
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And maybe pick out whatever your section is. Maybe there's 10 or so people in your vicinity. Go actually be at once everybody's boarded.
Speaker 1:Convene a little conference.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But actually just go take notes on everyone's individual preferences when they're planning on napping.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Things like that. Yeah. And then figure out the right schedule. And then actually take it upon yourself to just say, will be the window operator Yeah. For this flight.
Speaker 2:And maybe you could get one of like some some kind of like like, you know, those like marshmallow roaster sticks. If you could have something like that and you could go and, you know, use it to to Yeah. Open and close the windows on the schedule, that is a sort of predetermined...
Speaker 1:You're saying that like commercial aviation has basically become Lord of the Flies, so you need to like embrace that.
Speaker 2:You need to become a leader.
Speaker 1:You need to become a leader. What are you saying?
Speaker 4:I was gonna say the window should always be open. And I... If you wanna sleep Woah. If you wanna sleep, it's on you to bring an eye mask to, like
Speaker 1:Oh. It's okay. I think
Speaker 4:it should basically Little
Speaker 1:rugged individual.
Speaker 4:Maybe not at this sovereign individual.
Speaker 1:You gotta bring your own eye mask. Should the plane deliver free eye masks? I feel like they give headphones out. You can bring
Speaker 4:your own eye mask.
Speaker 1:They have eye mask in first class. But if you're in coach, they don't they don't have any options. Right?
Speaker 2:We've gone down this path a little bit. We get seated separately Yeah. On a flight and then we started negotiation to try to to do some trades. Yeah. And we've we've initiated some pretty complex trades.
Speaker 2:Doesn't always work out, right?
Speaker 1:What was the most complex trade we we initiated?
Speaker 2:Sometimes they're like, you're gonna move here because you're in a you wanna be... You don't wanna be in a middle seat. Yeah. We have a middle seat, we have this other person who's willing to take a middle seat.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. It should all be just open auction. There should be a... Everyone should board the plane one at a time.
Speaker 1:All the seats get auctioned off live with a with an auctioneer going. Do I do I have $20 for a for a long leg room? $20 $20 for a long leg room? $21 for for extra runway? $1?
Speaker 1:$20.22 dollar extra row? You think auctioneer. That would really that would really up that level of energy on a on a commercial flight, I think. I got peanuts.
Speaker 2:It makes so much more sense.
Speaker 1:You need peanuts. $5 for peanuts. Peanuts, $5. IMask, $6. $6 iMask,
Speaker 4:5. The stakes on JetBlue. You definitely will sell those.
Speaker 1:Mercedes has announced the 2028 AMG GT 63 SUV. It's a it's a it's an 1,153 horsepower electric powerhouse, we're getting a review from Jordy. What are you thinking?
Speaker 2:That's my review. That's all I got.
Speaker 1:You like a you like a Mercedes SUV. You like a G Wagon.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I do. I actually think it looks
Speaker 1:is from the same company.
Speaker 2:I think it looks fine. Would I buy it? No. Why not? Would I recommend a friend or family member buy it?
Speaker 2:No. But...
Speaker 1:$0.60 in in two point four seconds.
Speaker 2:Now the rear end actually looks pretty okay.
Speaker 1:The rear end, it it reminds me of the Ferrari Luche. Those circular... Multiple circular taillights like that, with that rim there, something about that looks looks luce to me. But I don't know. These these super SUVs, especially in the electric configuration, are just odd to me.
Speaker 1:I think it's gonna be a tough tough market with the depreciation and all this stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah. This is gonna absolutely bomb.
Speaker 1:You think so? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You think this is something that they started working on like five years ago?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Almost certainly.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Well...
Speaker 2:No. It's gonna be it's gonna be rough out there.
Speaker 1:It's gonna be rough out
Speaker 2:there. It's it's one of those things where it's like an impressive piece of technology. Yeah. But this buyer is buying this kind of car as a daily. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I just don't think it can stand up against other products in the class.
Speaker 1:You know, I would I would think that electric would do better in an SUV package like this than in a sports car? Like, the the Porsche CEO was discussing the... Taking the Cayman platform entirely electric. And are you more optimistic about this or the electric Cayman?
Speaker 2:I thought they canceled the Cayman.
Speaker 1:He was talking about it. He was talking about electric sports car. Like, two seater small electric sports car or five seater big electric SUV. Which one of those are you taking?
Speaker 2:Electric SUVs make sense, but this car cannot drive itself. Yeah. And it's just gonna get destroyed.
Speaker 1:But assume neither of them can drive themselves.
Speaker 2:Which one? So obviously, the Cayman, it just becomes like a street legal go kart.
Speaker 1:Oh, you think Cayman
Speaker 2:will sell that first? There's gonna be some there's gonna be some buyer there.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I wonder I wonder with the SUV, a lot of people still think, yes, it has 400 miles of range, but maybe I wanna take it to the snow. Maybe I wanna take it to somewhere where it's cold and the battery won't warm up or there won't be a great, there won't be a great electric charging network. Not that this is an off road SUV, but I think the SUV buyer, they still have in the back of their mind, like, yeah, maybe I will take this to Joshua Tree and be, you know, off the grid for a day, and I want that flexibility, even this... Even if this is just an everyday suburban get around daily driver comfy car.
Speaker 1:And it feels like electric might be harder in the SUV segment. At the same time, someone who's buying like a small sports car, they seem so much more inclined to want to hear the the sound of an of an engine. But I don't know. We'll see. We'll have to see if we see these on the road.
Speaker 1:Do you think you'll see more of these on the road or the BMW XM?
Speaker 2:Probably more of these, but the XM has been a massive flop.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But you said this might be a massive flop. So which one
Speaker 2:you for? This is gonna be, I think, quite a bit less expensive
Speaker 1:Oh, really?
Speaker 2:The XM.
Speaker 1:Okay. Yeah. If it comes in at $1.30, that's more that's more doable. But if it's up at, $2.20 and it's going up against Urus and the new McLaren SUV, it could have a hard time. But you don't know.
Speaker 1:You don't know. We'll see. We'll see.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We have to watch a... The best interview in pro sports right now.
Speaker 3:Wonder about 34 saves in your night. Just how you felt and what you saw as you looked out from your crease.
Speaker 5:Yes. I felt nothing. The the problem with me is that I have a lot of fun playing, but when I start having too much fun, it makes me into... From an unconscious goalie to a conscious goalie, and my conscious brain is really bad at playing goalie. I So have to, like, let my unconscious brain do the work because it reacts a lot quicker.
Speaker 5:When I'm having too much fun and I'm smiling and I'm talking to everybody and I'm hanging out, what happens is that shifts me into more conscious brain goalie. And then I can't react in time, and then I'm slow. I'm behind behind the play, and then I give up seven goals. You know? But today, it was just unconscious.
Speaker 5:Like, don't think about anything. You know? If you ask me how I made a save, I'd be I have no idea. Just my unconscious brain does it, and that's what you work in practice for. You know?
Speaker 3:Well, you felt nothing during the game, but I wonder what you felt like after when you're doing the three stars and you hear the crowd.
Speaker 5:And When the buzzer when the buzzer went, that's when I was like, okay. Now you can let it all go. So you get a huge rush of, like, dopamine and serotonin and adrenaline. It just, like, goosebumps. It's the best feeling in the world.
Speaker 5:It's, like, the biggest reason why I love to play. And, yeah, then you can just let it all out. Now I can smile and enjoy myself. But, yeah, like, TV timeouts in between period, I'm like, don't smile. Don't talk to anyone.
Speaker 5:Just focus on your game. Let your unconscious brain do it. And it was great. It worked.
Speaker 3:It worked. Congrats on everything and feel all of it.
Speaker 5:I also got pretty lucky too. Like, three posts, you know, no goals off my own team. So that's... You know, hopefully, that luck continues and I continue to make it. Keep it rolling.
Speaker 2:I love this guy.
Speaker 1:Why?
Speaker 2:Oh, he's just like, this is incredibly fun to listen to. I realized I've gone through that that that same experience, not always, but sometimes I'll surf a wave and I get to the end and I have no... I I can't remember anything that happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah. He's kinda frustrated....
Speaker 2:Incredibly... Like, I was incredibly present. Yeah. But I had no... I'll have no memory of, like, what I actually did and I have to, like, think, like, actually really hard
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What actually happened there.
Speaker 1:I think it's a better... Yeah. It's a good sports, like, post game interview because it's not just like, oh, like, thanks to the team. We all did everything we could. We worked hard and it paid off.
Speaker 1:Like, it's Yeah. It's more...
Speaker 2:It was like a very real
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Very unique
Speaker 1:It cuts through the Perspective. Normal interview. So I Yeah. I I understand it now. I saw that on the timeline, but I didn't actually watch it.
Speaker 1:So I I get it now. Well, true.
Speaker 2:Tell joke. Get checked.
Speaker 1:Very simple. Very simple.
Speaker 2:A simple process.
Speaker 1:I love it. That's a great philosophy. Well, that's a fantastic place to end it. Thank you so much for...
Speaker 2:Well, thank you, gentlemen. I appreciate it. Thanks, you guys.
Speaker 1:Thank you. We'll close out the show with you. You can just hang out.
Speaker 2:Thank you
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