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The medical experts we’ve been taught to rely on our whole lives have, in many ways, betrayed us. But the truth is, this started happening a long time ago. And perhaps, the most insidious lie perpetrated by the medical industry has been that we need ...
The medical experts we’ve been taught to rely on our whole lives have, in many ways, betrayed us. But the truth is, this started happening a long time ago. And perhaps, the most insidious lie perpetrated by the medical industry has been that we need their drugs to stay healthy. Whereas, traditional cultures knew how to nourish and heal the human body through the foods and medicines found in nature. Joining me today is Sally Fallon Morell, a pioneer in the field of what she’s termed “politically incorrect nutrition”, and someone who’s been guiding people out of the trap of the modern health and diet industry and back to the nourishing traditions of our ancestors.
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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So over the last couple of years, many of us have lost faith in the medical industry, and for good reason. The experts we've been taught to rely on our whole lives have in many ways betrayed us, bowing down to things like mask mandates, vaccine mandates, and implementing treatment protocols that betray their Hippocratic oath, not to mention common sense. But the truth is, this didn't start in 2020.
Speaker 1:In fact, it started a long time ago and has been unfolding little by little. It's just that most of us didn't know about it yet. And now new DNA modifying drugs are being rolled out to the public at an alarming speed with little to no regulation or oversight. This is truly unprecedented and truly dangerous. But perhaps the most insidious lie perpetrated by the medical industry has been that we need their drugs to stay healthy, whereas traditional cultures knew how to nourish and heal the human body through the foods and medicines found in nature.
Speaker 1:Joining me today is a pioneer in the field of what she's termed politically incorrect nutrition, who's been guiding people out of the trap of the modern health diet and industry and back into the nourishing traditions of our ancestors. Sally Fallon is an author, the founding president of the Western A. Price Foundation and a widely respected voice in her field. And I'm honored to have her joining us here today at a time when our health has never been under greater threat. But first, make sure you're following me on Telegram and truth social at man in America.
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Speaker 1:So to learn more, open up a new tab right now and go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900 to speak to a real person right now. Kirk Elliott's team will answer all of your questions and take care of you every step of the way. Again, at (720) 605-3900 or goldwithseth.com. Alright, let's go ahead and jump into the interview. So, Sally, thank you so much.
Speaker 1:I'm I have to say I'm honored and excited to have you here because I feel like that I've been staring at your book for book for a couple of years, my wife, I know she's been reading your books for, gosh, well over a decade or so. So it's such an honor to have you here. Thank
Speaker 2:you for joining Thank you. I love to hear about the babies brought up on our diet. Because most children in America are basically starving to death. Because they're either following the USDA guidelines or they're giving them processed food. And these babies are so unhappy.
Speaker 2:They cry all the time. They're not thriving. Daughter is the Yeah, the Weston Price babies just give me such joy. And there's thousands of them, and that's good. They're our hope for the future.
Speaker 1:They are. And it's so funny because we feed her raw milk, And, you know, we have we have a nice, you know, beautiful butter from Castor, you know, from pasture cows. She'll just eat like a big chunk of butter sometimes. That's just what she's craving. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, Sally, do you want to start and obviously, I'm familiar with you and your work, but you want to just give us our audience just an overview of really what you've been doing. And you've been doing it for quite some time before it was was popular. So how would you just do that for us?
Speaker 2:I like to say we made it popular.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So my husband and I founded the Weston A. Price Foundation in 1999, along with others. It wasn't just us. Tom Cowan, Mary Annig.
Speaker 2:There you go. And we are honoring the name of Weston Price, who studied healthy traditional peoples back in the '30s and '40s. And he found 14 groups that had excellent health. He was a dentist, so he was looking at their teeth. They had no cavities, naturally straight teeth.
Speaker 2:They had broad, well formed faces, so there were plenty of room for the teeth in the mouth and well formed bodies. And the other really amazing thing was childbirth was so easy. There was no pain in childbirth and no death from childbirth. So he found these 14 groups. So the next question is, what were they eating?
Speaker 2:And they were not eating according to the dietary guidelines. They were eating a very rich diet. They absolutely preferred fat, animal fat. If they killed an animal that was too lean, it was called rubbish, and they threw it away. They ate the organ meats first.
Speaker 2:They ate the fat. They ate any kind of animal food, fish and shellfish. And they had other foods too. They had grains. Many of these groups had grains.
Speaker 2:The grains were prepared with great care so they'd be digestible by soaking and fermenting. Every one of these groups had fermented foods, which is like your probiotic pill every day, except the fermented foods have far more probiotics in them than the pills. They made use of the bones, usually as a bone broth. And all of these groups had salt. Salt is extremely important for human health.
Speaker 2:So I think you can see where I'm going. Everything that these people did to be healthy contradicts what we're being told by our government, starting with the animal fats. I mean, that's, you know, the dietitians clutch their chests in pain if you talk about lard, right? But we recommend that you cook in lard and that you eat lots of butter and egg yolks and eggs and always some organ meats. You should have liver at least once a week because these foods are so nutrient dense and carry vitamins that you can't get anywhere else.
Speaker 2:Vitamins A, B, and K. We recommend plenty of salt in your diet. We recommend proper preparation of grains and lots of bone broth for your joints and tendons. Fermented foods. So we kind of craft our dietary guidelines on the habits of healthy traditional people.
Speaker 1:Can you tell us a little bit about the books that you've published? Because I know that the Nourishing Traditions book for me has been like the it's go to book in our kitchen.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, it's so funny because I never planned to be a writer. I never planned to be in food. It's like the universe said, you're going to do this. You have to do this. So I started off just as a mom of four kids that love to cook and love to cook French cooking, lots of butter and cream.
Speaker 2:And we had liver, and we did all because I like to cook. That was the reason. And I also had read Doctor. Price's books. And so I was kind of following what he said in his books.
Speaker 2:And that wasn't hard because traditional French cooking is all these things, same principles. And then I got the idea. It just came to me one day, you know, you should write a book that puts a cookbook that puts Doctor. Price's principles into practical form. And I just dismissed it.
Speaker 2:I said, oh, that's silly. First of all, you've never written a book, and there's thousands of cookbooks out there who needs another cookbook. But I just couldn't shake this idea, and I had several signs that I should do this book. So I pressed forward. The book came out in 1996.
Speaker 2:I think it sold three copies the first month. But and I really didn't know what I was doing as far as marketing or anything. But it just kind of took hold, word-of-mouth. It was so different from all the other cookbooks out there. And soon I was selling 3,000 or 4,000 a month just regularly.
Speaker 2:So we're up to about 800,000 copies now, which is hard to believe. So the next book I did was with Tom Cowan, The Fourfold Path to Healing. Very fun book to do taking the dietary principles plus herbs and homeopathy and other treatments for 15 different disease conditions. We did that book together along with Jamin McMillan, who did the movement part of the book. I had to joke about it.
Speaker 2:I said, I'm the world's most uncoordinated woman. He was world's most coordinated man. And we were doing these exercise things together. So I'm kind of losing track. But Tom and I did the Nourishing Traditions book of baby and childcare.
Speaker 2:I published a book called The Whole Soy Story about the dangers of soy foods. Published The Untold Story of Milk about raw milk. Let's see. I did a children's book, The Nourishing Traditions Cookbook for Children, fully illustrated. And then I was approached by an agent, a lovely woman, Mary Evans, who wanted me to do a book on broth, and she found a publisher.
Speaker 2:So that was Nourishing Broth. And then we did Nourishing Fats and Nourishing Diets. So those are all the nourishing books. My last book, my latest book was again with Tom Cowan, and it's the Contagion Myth. So busting some more widely held ideas about what causes disease, And it specifically addresses COVID.
Speaker 1:I see. Just a quick comment. So my sister-in-law, she was studying nutrition, and she had met a naturopath who told her that after his entire four year degree plus his master's, the only place that he learned real knowledge was your book, Nursing Traditions.
Speaker 2:Really? Oh, that's sweet.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And so, so you have this and this, you know, this has been part of your, your life's work for many years. So when you saw everything start emerging with COVID, and not only just COVID, but then this rush to get the vaccine to market. And just, you know, I'm actually, I'm currently kicked off of YouTube. I'm on a, I'm on a penalty right now for talking about, I think it was about actually vaccine misinformation.
Speaker 1:So this video is not going up on there so we can talk very openly.
Speaker 2:Okay, good. Well, just a little background, the Weston A. Price Foundation, our board unanimously has always opposed vaccinations. I only had one vaccination in my life, and I had some serious side effects from it. And my little brother almost died after polio vaccine.
Speaker 2:So this is kind of hardwired into me that these things aren't good. And Tom Cowan, of course, agrees with me. So the Westlake Price Foundation has always opposed vaccines. These healthy, so called primitive people, they didn't have vaccines. And they were healthy.
Speaker 2:They didn't have fluoride either. And they had no cavities. When COVID came out, and they were going to have a vaccine for COVID, at the time I was reading the Invisible Rainbow by Arthur Fersheburg. And in it, he describes the studies that the US Public Health Department did on the Spanish flu, trying to show that it was contagious and how it spread and everything. And they were unable to show they were unable to make a well person sick by any kind of exposure to the sick people.
Speaker 2:They had the sick people breathe on them, blow on them, talk to them. They took lung fluids from the sick people and squeezed them down the lungs of the well people. They took blood of the sick people and put it in the blood of the well people. They could never make a well person sick by any kind of contact with a sick person. And that was the Spanish flu.
Speaker 2:And Arthur Furstenberg said that's because it was caused by the rollout of radio in 1918, '19 '17, '19 '18, starting at the military bases. And this was a vibration, an exposure, a toxin that nobody had been exposed to before. And lots of people got sick. The ones who got really sick were the military people who'd been vaccinated so heavily and who were given aspirin, which thinned their blood. And they would just bleed to death, internal bleeding.
Speaker 2:The ones going to the homeopathic hospitals, the death rate was less than one percent. Anyway, reading this, I said to myself, what's new that's causing people to get sick? And of course the obvious answer is five gs, which first was rolled out 10,000 base stations turned on at the same time in Wuhan. And you've seen the pictures, people just collapsed in the street, and they were twitching. And you know, this kind of thing isn't caused by a virus.
Speaker 2:And at the same time, Tom Cowan had been working with Andrew Kaufman, who's done a masterful job at dissecting the so called virology studies and showing that it's just total nonsense. And there's no such thing as a virus in the sense of something that causes disease. So we got to talking and Tom said, know, I think we need to write a book. And I said, yeah, we need to write it quickly. So we kind of agreed on how we'd work together.
Speaker 2:And we wrote that book in two months. And my agent found us the publisher. And that was that.
Speaker 1:It's incredible. I just interviewed Doctor. Robert Young, and I haven't published the interview yet, but, you know, what he was talking about was he's also studied a lot of the effect of radiofrequency and EMF on the human body. And, you know, he was talking about how that interacts with the graphene oxide and how they're finding graphene oxide in the chemtrails
Speaker 2:and the In the vaccines,
Speaker 1:like a payload of this graphene oxide. And he was saying that what he suspected, suspected that there was a rollout of a flu shot in Wuhan right before all that hit, and it coincided with the the new five g towers. Then he also referenced, you know, we all know about the think I forget that the name of the actual cruise ship or the entire, you know, cruise ship, they were all sick, but they had just rolled out five gs there.
Speaker 2:On the ship. Yeah. And of course, you can't escape it on a ship.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:I just don't agree with people who say, well, it's just a bad version of the flu. Because I had COVID and that was unlike anything I'd ever had before. I got sick after I'd been traveling and went, you know, I was in several airports. And so I think it's very real. I don't think it's fatal.
Speaker 2:I recovered. It took about a month. But I also think just like most people have adjusted to radio waves, You adjust to five gs to a certain extent, to a certain extent. Now, I've also taken the precaution of having no Wi Fi in my house. And everything's plugged in.
Speaker 2:I can put a meter up to my computer and it's screen. And I think everyone should do that in their house. But I do think we do adjust. Our bodies figure this out. And if you're well nourished, you can live with this to a certain extent.
Speaker 1:So with what you've, obviously, you saw this probably from day one that, okay, there's a big red flag with this. I think that for a lot of the folks that are in the audience that are watching, you know, for them, and I've asked a lot of them, I said, When did you really kind of wake up, you know, to use that term? And they say, they said, Look, it was really COVID. It was either the twenty sixteen election and everything that happened around that, or it was COVID that was their big awake wake you know, for a lot of people, they've now realized that big pharma in particular, you know, they're seeing like they didn't get the vaccine, they're seeing, you know, all the numbers coming in of the deaths, the myocarditis, the videos of healthy young soccer players or sports players falling over. And they're saying, Wait, this is really bad.
Speaker 1:Yet a lot of the people that are watching, these are folks that are in their 50s, 60s, 70s, they're saying, I won't touch the vaccine with a 10 foot pole, but they might be on three or four different medications prescribed from their doctor that are coming from Pfizer or the same companies that are manufacturing
Speaker 2:these vaccines. Approved by the FDA.
Speaker 1:Exactly, exactly. For someone that, you know, has really, they've seen through the vaccine agenda, and I think that a lot of us are increasingly more every day, but maybe that they don't see through the bigger picture of big pharma and the role that it's played. What's your advice to someone like this? And what are the common, what are the common medications that people in that age bracket are on? And, I mean, is that the only solution, or are there other solutions that they can use to really, I guess, to release that grip that big pharma has on them?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well, the first one, of course, is the statins to lower cholesterol. And I have been writing about this for twenty five years. And my co author Mary Enig was horrified by what they were doing about the statins. Because cholesterol is so important in the body.
Speaker 2:You make most hormones amid cholesterol, all the sex hormones, the stress hormones, the hormones that regulate blood sugar, that regulate mineral metabolism. Your receptors for serotonin in the brain can't work without cholesterol. And this idea that if your cholesterol is over 200, you suddenly have to be on a medication for the rest of your life is a triumph of industry influence common sense, just over common sense. In my book Nourishing Fats, I write about this and talk about all the details. But the food industry kind of gotten in league with the pharmaceuticals to promote a low fat diet without any saturated fat, that immediately means that you're going to be missing some really key vitamins.
Speaker 2:And along with taking the statins. And it's a lethal combination. It's just a lethal combination. We know from studies that they don't increase your lifespan. They don't prevent heart attacks, and they do cause cancer.
Speaker 2:Low cholesterol is a marker for cancer. Plus, they make you feel terrible. They make you feel grouchy and grumpy and they affect your muscles. My husband and I like to sit in the airports and we look around and see the people on statins by the way they walk. No, that's called the statin shuffle, because it's really hard for them to walk.
Speaker 2:They cause Parkinson's and nervous disorders. And another thing they cause is crippling back pain. Because your muscles need cholesterol to work. And if you're lowering your cholesterol less than what your body needs, you're going to have degeneration of the muscles. Now everybody's different.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm ashamed to say that I secretly got my cholesterol tested and it was low. I was so surprised because I ate so much butter and animal fat. But some, I guess I don't need a lot of cholesterol. You know, I'm kind of a mellow person and I don't need cholesterol to make stress hormones. My body is just not making a lot.
Speaker 2:But some people need lots of cholesterol. What I can say is that these epidemiology shows that for women of any age, and for men over 60, the higher your cholesterol, the longer you live. And I have to repeat that. The higher your cholesterol, the longer you live. If a doctor is telling a woman or a man over the age of 60 that he needs a statin, that doctor is incompetent.
Speaker 2:And don't go to him and tell him. You don't know what you're talking about. Now for men 60, if your cholesterol is over 300, you do have a slightly increased risk of heart disease. But it doesn't mean you should take a statin. What it probably means is that you need to relax and not be so type A driven and everything.
Speaker 2:But yeah, the whole thing is a scam. And the doctors are actually being forced to prescribe them. Here's how it works. If you're in a practice, let's say you're in a practice with 10 other doctors, you get a salary, everybody gets a salary, but you also get a bonus at the end of the year. And that bonus depends on you writing a certain number of prescriptions for statins, basically for everybody.
Speaker 2:And if you don't write those prescriptions, you don't get your bonus, but your colleagues don't get their bonus either. So you might say, well, I can't do this in good conscience. I'm not going to write these prescriptions. Screw the bonus. But your colleagues won't get their bonus either.
Speaker 2:And so you can imagine the peer pressure. It's a diabolical system. Yeah, so don't do it. Don't take them. And you can, by the way, you can go off statins cold turkey, you'll feel better almost immediately.
Speaker 2:I must warn your listeners that what you can't go off cold turkey is blood pressure medications. You might have a stroke if you did that. Now I have a lot to say about blood pressure medications. But if you decide to go off them, it has to be very slow and gradual. So please, please don't go cold turkey off of blood pressure medications.
Speaker 2:But, with statins, you can.
Speaker 1:And so, you know, with blood pressure medication, what's that doing? I mean, it's frightening hearing what statins are actually doing. But what are
Speaker 2:the And the thing is, in one study is one that I talked about in nourishing fats, they showed that the combination of taking a statin and being on blood pressure was the most deadly combination. So now blood pressure is more complicated. And high blood pressure, it can be quite serious and bad for you. But what's high blood pressure? So thirty years ago when doctors were going to medical school, high blood pressure was defined as your age plus one hundred over ninety.
Speaker 2:But now one hundred twenty over seventy is considered borderline hypertensive and an excuse to put you on a blood pressure medication. So if you're 50 years old, one hundred fifty over ninety is is perfectly normal, and you should not be put on blood pressure medication. Now, if your blood pressure is 200 over 110, yeah, you're going to need to do something and you're going to need to take a medication. But not many people are in that category.
Speaker 1:Probably a lot of the doctors that are stressed
Speaker 2:out. What
Speaker 1:would you say are some of the most important changes that someone can make to their diet or lifestyle to help them get away from being in a place where they think that they need to take these drugs to live longer or stay alive?
Speaker 2:Yeah. You know, I saw this in my parents' generation. And my dad had been in the Air Force. And they were used to listening to authority and to following orders and respecting authority. And it was I could not.
Speaker 2:I was no match for his doctor. You know, I tried to get him off the statins. And he was having all the side effects. And he was in crippling pain. And his hand shook.
Speaker 2:And I just I could not get him to kind of think, oh well maybe my doctor's wrong. And in the end the doctor had him on two statins. So it is difficult, but I think the first thing you need to realize is that more and more our government agencies have become very corrupt. It's all about the money. Same with the vaccines.
Speaker 2:It's all about the money. And do your homework. Start with nourishing bats if you want. I think the other thing is to give yourself permission to eat a good rich diet. Give yourself permission to eat all the butter you want, all the eggs you want.
Speaker 2:Give yourself permission to have eggs and bacon for breakfast. And I've had a lot of feedback on this. Like one gal said to me, well, know, when I started to eat butter like you told me to, I felt guilty. Because this has been, you know, pushed on us all these years. Should feel if you eat large, you're vulgar.
Speaker 2:And if you eat butter, you're spoiled, and you should feel guilty.
Speaker 1:Quick question for you. You
Speaker 2:have to get over that feeling of guilt for sure. Oh,
Speaker 1:yeah. Well, because so it's interesting. So my mom, for instance, who, you know, she's really understands what's happening, and she has your book at home. And it's funny because I can see that there's this trained part of her thinking because I'm very, very I wouldn't say excessive, but let's just say excessive with my butter usage. Right?
Speaker 1:Yeah. My toast
Speaker 2:Me too. It's like a
Speaker 1:one to one ratio of butter to bread.
Speaker 2:Right? Absolutely. Yes.
Speaker 1:And so but she's often like, even still, she'll say, oh, Seth, that's too much butter. It's bad for your heart. And and I think that that was probably back from the the eighties when there was this dehumanization campaign. Yeah. How how long do you think that the FDA, you know, the the big agencies that we should be trusting that gave us that food pyramid, right, with the fats, the little tiny
Speaker 2:That was USDA. Yeah, was USDA.
Speaker 1:How long do you think that have they been lying to people? Because I think that for a lot of folks, they say, well, you know, I learned that when I was young, and it's never changed for them. How far back do these lies go about our lives?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. Well, they go back a long ways, and they'll be the last to change. And so a lot of people say, you know, we need to get out there and change the dietary guidelines or change the school lunches or get rid of the people running the FDA. I said, no. That's going be the last thing that happens.
Speaker 2:First thing is you. You need to change. And you need to make your kids lunches because the school lunches aren't going to change. But you can be a little island of health and sanity and little by little we'll have more and more. And what I say is happening is we're getting the natural selection of the wise, which means that the people eating a wise diet, the kind of diet we recommend, eating plenty of animal fats, they'll have healthy children, and those children will reproduce.
Speaker 2:And most of the children today are not going to reproduce. And so we'll end up with greatly reduced population. That's what the Bible calls a remnant. But these people will be wise, and they won't pay any attention to what the government says. This won't pay any attention.
Speaker 2:And that's how it's going to happen. It's not going to happen by changing the agencies. They're just too corrupt.
Speaker 1:It's like they're a cancer patient, the cancer is in their bones, and you can't remove the tumor. It's the entire body of these agencies. And
Speaker 2:you know, these people aren't very smart. They don't understand about food at all. I like to say that our food policy is run by people who use nondairy creamer. There's no hope for your food policy with these kind of people in charge. They just have no understanding about food and enjoying food and food being satisfied about food having to be of a good quality.
Speaker 2:You know, for them, a carrot is a carrot is a carrot. It's all the same. It's all the same. And there's no emphasis on quality.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Also, you mentioned the children. So as I was telling you before the show, know, our daughters too. And my wife, you know, she followed your book to a tee when she was pregnant. And we did three day bone broths, you know, beef bones, chicken bones, and we did so much fermented food.
Speaker 1:I mean, the list goes on.
Speaker 2:Hot liver oil, I hope.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. Yeah. That goes in our smoothies most days when we have our smoothies still. And our daughter, like I said, you know, she she's so different than, like, she's at a park playing, She's just so alert. She's watching a bird or she hears a leaf blowing and she's watching that and she's so just smart, but smart is not really the right way to describe it.
Speaker 1:It's just like her brain is fully functioning and she's aware of, she smells everything, and she picks up on the really subtle details. But, you know, since she was born, though, we've been feeding her, you know we tried making her a liver kind of dish at the very beginning, which didn't go over very well. But you know, she's had she loves bone broths. She loves butter. We get really, really healthy butter, she'll eat it by hand.
Speaker 2:Her egg yolk, right? She gets her egg yolk.
Speaker 1:We have our chickens that we raise with just, you know, pasture raised and organic feed. And so she loves eggs and the egg yolk. And it's just, it's such a difference. And I think most importantly, she was breastfed. And my wife By
Speaker 2:a healthy mom. By a healthy
Speaker 1:mom. Exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Makes all the difference.
Speaker 1:You know, so recently we had this baby formula shortage. And there's also all kinds of other supply chain issues. And for a lot of people, it's almost like they thought, oh my gosh, this is like, how will babies survive? And I know that, you know, there are some women, for whatever reasons, they can't breastfeed. Maybe their body's not in the condition or maybe they're they're at the office all day and they can't produce enough
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But they and they got so freaked out over the baby formula shortages. But I I my wife had seen one of the other videos you did recently talking about the baby formula, and it was astounding what you were saying. So what's happening with our baby formula? That's a big issue.
Speaker 2:Well, just a little background. In Nourishing Traditions is a recipe for baby formula that's based on raw milk. I mean, that's the number one thing because breast milk is raw milk. I was able to fully breastfeed my daughter, but my three boys. I don't know, I was older, tired, And they were hungrier.
Speaker 2:And I had to do something or they would starve. And I was not going to give them formula. So I had an old book which had a recipe based on raw milk, which I used. And then Mary Enegg kind of fine tuned the recipe. And we reckon 20,000 babies have been brought up on this formula.
Speaker 2:The vast majority extremely successfully. Okay. So the baby formula shortage comes along. And the traffic on our baby formula page at Weston A. Price went up 1000%.
Speaker 2:And I started to get calls from reporters. And I would talk to them, of course, like there was somebody from Rolling Stone, and I think there was Associated Press. Had to laugh because what came out is that I was recommending this dangerous formula. And of course, what a laugh because why did we have this shortage? Because the commercial formula was killing babies.
Speaker 2:And they had to shut the plant down. So it really didn't have anything to do with COVID. They shut down the major baby formula plant in America because it was killing babies. My formula never killed the babies. Going back to commercial formula, the number one thing that's wrong with commercial formula there's lots of things that are wrong but the number one thing is that it contains no cholesterol.
Speaker 2:So babies cannot make cholesterol. They can't do a lot of things. The enzymes aren't online yet. So mother's milk or any raw milk is very high in cholesterol. And if it's raw, it will contain enzymes that assure 100% assimilation of that cholesterol.
Speaker 2:Well, what do babies need cholesterol for? First and foremost, they needed to make hormones. All hormones are made of cholesterol, most hormones are. And particularly for baby boys, baby boys for the first six months of life have a testosterone surge. It programs their bodies to express male characteristics of puberty.
Speaker 2:And if they don't have cholesterol in their diet, they cannot make the testosterone to program their bodies. Very, very serious. Very serious. And nobody knows this. Formula people don't know this.
Speaker 2:So all commercial formula, even the crunchy organic ones, are made with skim milk. Even the goat milk ones are made with skim goat milk, and then vegetable oils. Now, if I go to a feed store and buy what they call milk replacer for calves, the third ingredient is animal fat. Because animal scientists know that you have to give animal fat to growing mammals or they die, Okay, or they don't make it. So this is known.
Speaker 2:But do they put whole milk in baby formula? No. And why not? Because that butterfat is very valuable and the industry's figured out that the best profit on butterfat is to put it into ice cream. That's why babies don't get butterfat.
Speaker 2:That's why schoolchildren are not allowed to have whole milk. It's all about the profit. And this is about the most damning thing that I could say about America and our economic system here and what's happened to us is that we think it's okay to give nonfat milk to babies and schoolchildren. I have a problem with that. Now there's lots of other things that are wrong too.
Speaker 2:Most baby formulas are made with sugar, high fructose corn syrup, or maltodextrin, which is also made from corn. But the fat should be lactose. The sugar should be lactose. That's the sugar in milk. And it's very important because it's necessary for making connections in the brain for the nervous system.
Speaker 2:It's very important that it's lactose. And I could go on. Just for example, they put folic acid. It should be folate, not folic acid. No longer do they put vitamin A in the formula, they put beta carotene.
Speaker 2:Babies can't do anything with beta carotene. Invert it into vitamin A. So, I mean, somebody probably could make a pretty good formula. It would probably cost three times more than formula costs today. Why not just make your baby formula if you need to?
Speaker 2:And a lot of women do. There's no condemnation here. But you need to know what you're doing so your baby gets a good start in life. Those first twelve months are absolutely critical to the baby's whole life. And they need certain things.
Speaker 2:They basically need raw milk, and then we add certain things to the cow's milk or the goat's milk to bring it up to the levels of certain nutrients in mother's milk. And it's worked very, very well.
Speaker 1:I have two comments. The first one is that I remember when, so my brother was in the hospital for quite some time, he was very ill, ended up passing, he had cancer. I remember they, at one point, because he couldn't eat because he was paralyzed, it was a lot of different issues that happened, but, in there feeding him Ensure just through a stomach And I pulled up a can of this Ensure, and it was like the it was basically just liquid. It was just high fructose corn syrup.
Speaker 2:High fructose corn syrup, maltodextrin, but it's based on soy. The protein in there is soy, which is extremely hard to digest, extremely toxic. And also calcium caseinates in there. It's Elmer's glue. Soy formula.
Speaker 2:Basically, is soy formula for grown ups. It really dehydrates them. Yeah. The idea that they're giving Ensure to people in the hospital is another example of just how far wrong we have gone, how unscientific our practices are with sick people and babies. Boggles the mind, really, that we've gone this far wrong.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of good science supporting what I'm saying. The science is there. But people aren't going by the science. They're going by the economics.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Well, my sister-in-law, so my niece, she was born quite disabled, and she was spent the first couple of years of her life really in and out of the hospital. And my sister-in-law had begged the doctors to let them, to let her give breast milk to put into the feeding tube, right for her, you know, infant at the hospital. And because they wanted to give her some sort of hospital infant formula, which probably would have been some, you know, high fructose corn syrup, or who knows what would have been in it. And they were almost cruel to her, and made her like she had to reach this level of pumping every day.
Speaker 1:And it was just like, it wasn't, it just, it's so backwards because instead of them saying, wow, here's a mother that wants to give this child what we know is going to make them healthier and stronger and help them heal. It was just the inverse. I mean, was, yeah, it was just absolutely incredible hearing her stories about this.
Speaker 2:How'd the baby do?
Speaker 1:She's getting better, actually, in a large part from nursing traditions. Good. Right? She's, oh, she's, you know, fermented food diet. I mean, there's so many things that she's done to help her, which has really, really helped her along.
Speaker 1:But one thing I do want to talk a little more about is raw milk. And so I'm in Ohio. And in Ohio, I think technically, it's it's illegal for me to go to the grocery store and buy raw milk. And so you have to what's called a herd share, where you're, you know, paying to almost like own like a stock of a of a cow or a share. That way you get your dividend in milk as an owner of the cows.
Speaker 1:And so, but, you know, you talk about raw milk a lot, not just in what you recommend for babies. So there's a lot of people that even again, like, know, my mother, for instance, know she loves raw milk, but that generation where they were told, no milk has to be ultra pasteurized, other it's gonna be deadly. So what can you tell us about the myths of why they say raw milk is so bad for us, and what's the truth behind it, though?
Speaker 2:Well, it's a long story, but what's in milk, Everything in milk is very delicate. It's not like meat where the proteins are really tough and cooking actually makes meat more digestible. But milk, the proteins are very different. They're extremely fragile three-dimensional objects. They are warped and distorted by heat, especially the rapid heating of pasteurization.
Speaker 2:All the enzymes are killed. Now, every single vitamin and mineral in raw milk has an enzyme to ensure 100% assimilation. All those enzymes are gone, so it's very hard for the infant or anybody to absorb nutrients. Also, the proteins become highly allergenic because they're twisted and distorted. The body says, This is a foreign protein.
Speaker 2:I don't know what this is.
Speaker 1:So is that what causes lactose intolerance?
Speaker 2:Well, and the lactose has changed. You know, most people are allergic to milk today. There's something wrong there, you know. And we did a survey and found that eighty two percent of people who were diagnosed as lactose intolerant could drink raw milk without any problem. So what is that telling you?
Speaker 2:It's not the milk. It's the pasteurization. I could say so much. Raw milk contains everything in your blood except for red blood cells. It contains antibodies, neutrophils, white blood cells.
Speaker 2:Everything but red blood cells. And in fact, in World War I, they used raw milk for blood transfusion. They injected in people's veins. We lost a lot of blood. It worked.
Speaker 2:It worked. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, I mean, it sounds like it's a miracle formula. Why has it been so demonized? Like, lot of people that I know are frightened of raw milk, and they think it's gonna kill them. They're gonna get some sort of infection.
Speaker 2:Well, I would not drink raw milk from a typical confinement dairy. But raw milk from a small farm where the cows are eating grass, raw milk contains these antimicrobial compounds that kill pathogens, that seal the gut, that carry the pathogens out, and they're all killed by pasteurization. So your safety net is gone. I will say this, that COVID has really opened people's eyes to raw milk, I think, because every farmer I talk to can't meet the demand for raw milk now. Mark McAfee in California has a 400 cal raw milk dairy.
Speaker 2:They are selling every drop. And the only dairies making money in California dairies making money. The demand has really skyrocketed. And I think it's because people have said, you know, FDA was wrong about the vaccine and COVID.
Speaker 1:Also they wrong
Speaker 2:about. I predict and I'll make a bet with you, that in twenty years, so let's make that 02/1945, that's twenty three years, two thousand forty five, there will not be any more pasteurized milk in the stores. It'll all be raw milk because that's what people want. And there's nothing stronger than consumer demand, the buying habits of the educated consumer, and it's coming. I mean, I'm sorry, regulators, but it's coming because people don't want pasteurized milk.
Speaker 1:Tell us a little bit about your website, raw milk, because I think for a
Speaker 2:lot of times,
Speaker 1:it's like, had to search and search to find raw milk, but I'll bring it up. So, what can you tell us about this? Sorry, real milk. It's realmilk.com.
Speaker 2:And real milk is milk that is unpasteurized from pasture fed cows and has all the fat in it. That's what we call real milk. We started this website in 1999. We actually did this before we set up the Weston A. Price Foundation.
Speaker 2:And the idea was to help people find raw milk. And at that time, a lot of states had laws against advertising raw milk, and many of them still do, I think. But they don't need to once we have realmilk.com because people just go find it. And the farmers aren't advertising, we're just listing them. We send this up So this is
Speaker 1:a database on realmilk.com where people can find the farmer Yeah.
Speaker 2:Go back up to the map. Yep. So you put your state in and or a ZIP code, and you can find what's near you, including drop off places. When we started, there were about 20 sources of raw milk in the whole country. Only 20.
Speaker 2:There was only one in California, and there were a few in Pennsylvania, etcetera. Well, now we have well over 2,000 listed, and many other sources are not even listed. They don't want to be listed. So we have seen the supply increase astronomically, the demand increase. The other thing that a campaign for real milk does is work to liberalize state laws.
Speaker 2:When we started, only 27 states allowed farmers to provide milk in one form or another, either selling it as pet milk or as cow shares or herd shares. And now we're up to 45. And we just have a few more states to go.
Speaker 1:So my family, I have family in Australia who I've mentioned. And so they get raw milk, and they literally have to go meet in a parking lot and exchange it in brown paper bags. I mean, honestly, I think it'd be easier to buy and sell heroin for them.
Speaker 2:Oh, it is. Yeah. Yeah. But you can't stop this. When people see how their children thrive on it, it's wonderful for bones.
Speaker 2:You know, we didn't talk about Fosamax. This is one of these pharmaceuticals that people are giving to women to have strong bones, it causes degeneration of the jawbone, necrotizing of the jawbone. The best thing for your bones is raw milk. And as you get older, that's the one thing I would recommend, especially to women who tend to have weaker bones, drink a glass of raw milk every day. Whole raw milk.
Speaker 2:And you'll have strong bones right until the day you die.
Speaker 1:Now, actually one more personal question. So my wife and I have raw milk every day, but we steam it because we have it with our lattes in the morning. So does steaming raw milk, is that kind of the same as pasteurization?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't want to go over 113 degrees.
Speaker 1:Okay. So, okay, so our iced coffees are good because they're mostly cold raw milk.
Speaker 2:Well, coffee's not good. Would not recommend coffee at all. I would recommend having raw milk for breakfast and a mug of broth. What does coffee do? Coffee says to your adrenal glands produce adrenaline.
Speaker 2:And then your adrenal glands say, well, now we have to recover from this adrenaline rush. And they have to make corticoid hormones. And your adrenal glands just can't do that all the time. And eventually have adrenal exhaustion.
Speaker 1:That's good.
Speaker 2:You didn't say that, did you?
Speaker 1:That's okay. You know what? The thing is, is that, like, we have to be able to face these discussions and be willing to let go of what's comfortable. So you know, I can't guarantee I'll stop drinking coffee, but maybe
Speaker 2:we'll have that have a great coffee substitute.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's that?
Speaker 2:You put a tablespoon of coconut oil in a mug with a tablespoon of molasses and a pinch of powdered ginger and add hot water to that. That'll wake you up just as well as coffee by boosting your metabolism. Tastes delicious. And I know people want a hot drink in the morning. There you go.
Speaker 1:Oh, there we go. So, ah, well, that's good. So, you know, one question that has come up for me is that you mentioned that you're seeing this massive increase in people that are buying raw milk, right?
Speaker 2:We really are. I mean, our farm and by the way, we sell raw milk for dogs and cats. That's what the label says.
Speaker 1:Okay. A lot
Speaker 2:of dogs and cats in the state of Maryland. But we got the first permit, and now there's about three dozen permits in Maryland. But yeah, we can't keep it in. It just flies off the shelf.
Speaker 1:So the question I have, and I think that you're probably in a in a position to observe these kinds of trends, is right now, you know, for a lot of us, it seems like we're seeing this evil that's really coming to the forefront in our country and our world, And it's so oppressive, it's scary. But I also think that there's parallel economies that are developing that will eventually sustain themselves. So do you think that, you know, the, if you look at big pharma and the hospital system as an example, and I just interviewed a gentleman that had his disabled daughter was basically murdered by the hospital establishment, you know, through in like, if you look at the evidence, it was there's no other way to look at it except she was deliberately killed because she was disabled, and they had an opportunity to do that. And
Speaker 2:so They probably take some organs. Did they take some organs?
Speaker 1:They probably did. No, you know, yeah, they probably did. And so we're realizing that the hospital system and the big pharma, they're, they're not just corrupt, there's almost, there's an evil element to them. Yeah. But it can almost lead us to thinking of like a dystopian future where you're in a line with your vaccine passport.
Speaker 1:It's like, okay, what are we going to do? But are you seeing that there is such a strong trend of people rejecting this and going back to really the nourishing traditions before these medical industrial complex has taken over? Like, does that give you hope for the future to see that there's a trend of people? Are you seeing that trend?
Speaker 2:Well, I'm an incurable optimist, put like that. What we're seeing is I know this might make you laugh, but we're seeing demons. And this is what we had in Nazi Germany. Actually, Hitler was kind of in a trance most of the time, and he conjured demons.
Speaker 1:He did. He was obsessed with the occult and ancient rabbis. And
Speaker 2:hospitals are places of demons, public health departments, you know, the military, it's just demons. And we cannot feed demons. And how do we feed demons? We feed them by giving them that same energy, hate, fear.
Speaker 1:They're called lush, like the fear energy they pull off of us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we just can't do that because that feeds them. What I see happening is there'll be these little points of light all over the country, families feeding their children rights, creating a happy, stress free environment in the family, farms producing wonderful food, practitioners who are doing real holistic medicine, maybe a school, maybe a store, but you're going to have these points of light all over the country that don't feed demons. Okay, right. There's no demons there. And eventually, when there's enough of that, the demons go away.
Speaker 2:They just go away. And that's what we have to do. In Masonry they talk about the three ruffians, which is fear, envy, and hate. And you just can't let those ruffians into your life because what follows are the demons. And you'll get caught up in this, and then it's really horrible.
Speaker 2:So eat well. Help others. Don't be critical of others. Everyone's on a different path. And this will evaporate eventually.
Speaker 1:It's encouraging to hear. I join you in the optimism. Though, I'm not bearing my head in the sand. I know that there's probably some difficult times ahead.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes. There's going to be difficult times and we're going to have to stand our ground, especially about the vaccinations. And we may have to live with certain amount of deprivation because of that. But, know, first and foremost, our responsibility is to our children, our grandchildren, our families, and we need to create the right atmosphere for them.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Another question I have for you is that, so there's a lot of folks that maybe they got the first vaccine and then they realize after a side effect, but then they realize, and now they're thinking, oh my goodness, what do I do? Or there's people that maybe their spouse got the vaccine and they're concerned about the shedding. What are some recommendations that you have for people that either had the got the vaccine or are living or working in a way they can't avoid being around those who are vaccinated
Speaker 2:or Yeah. First of all, I'm not sure how real the shedding is. I just read a study recently saying that this is really not happening. And I was just with an aunt, sat next to her on the sofa all evening, She just had a vaccine. So nothing happened.
Speaker 2:Still alive. Well, number one, don't get any more vaccines. Think raw milk is really helpful when you've had a vaccine because it's the best source of glutathione. And glutathione is our key detoxification. Cod liver oil.
Speaker 2:Vitamin A. I mean, vitamin A is critical for dealing with toxins. Our bodies really are amazing, and if they have the tools, they can deal with almost anything. What did Christ say? Nothing will poison you.
Speaker 2:No poison will bother you. So yeah, do our diet and don't get any more. And by the way, the first round of shots, apparently a third of them were placebos.
Speaker 1:So I have two daughters
Speaker 2:in law who got the shots, and I'm just hoping that they both got the placebos because they both seem fine, you know, two years later.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, which is a good indicator.
Speaker 2:They haven't killed everybody. I think the booster is the kill shot. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I wanted to bring up your blog really quick because you're just I mean, I would also recommend your book. So maybe, Kate, if you can pull up the Amazon, actually, the non Amazon you know, page to show the nourishing oh, here actually, this is the Amazon, but that's okay because people can still find the book information. So anyway, so this is the oh, this is the nourishing fats book. And as if you scroll down, you can see over here that there's all the different books. So nourishing broth, nourishing traditions.
Speaker 1:I would recommend to everyone reading and not actually, Sally, where would you recommend who will buy these that's not going to be supporting Jeff Bezos?
Speaker 2:Well, Barnes and Noble.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And by the way, the Contagion Myth was banned by Amazon. Barnes and Noble carries it. But then my publisher is really clever. He put it out in a different title called The Truth About Contagion. And that got by the Amazon censors.
Speaker 2:So that's called The Truth About Contagion. It's exactly the same book.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay. Oh, good. And I'll have Kate pull that up for me. And also then your website, which is just nourishingtraditions.com. Is that right?
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Okay. And we'll pull that up.
Speaker 2:That's my blog. I wish I had more time for it. I usually do about one or two a month. But I did a whole series on feeding babies. You have to go back into the history.
Speaker 2:Basically, contagion myth, my first several chapters were written for the blog.
Speaker 1:On Amazon. It's the truth about contagion.
Speaker 2:And then I've done several on what causes disease. Like I did one on anthrax, I did one on TB. And it's almost like heresy to say that toxins cause disease. But it looks like TB was iron poisoning, ferrous in the air. Anthrax was arsenic.
Speaker 2:And you can pretty much find an explanation for all diseases that has nothing to do with viruses or bacteria. Polio was, first of all, lead arsenate used as a pesticide and then DDT. And both were nerve poisons. So it's starting to come out, you know, this is the age of Aquarius, everything is going to be revealed. And all these things that were kind of hidden in secret are coming out.
Speaker 1:What can you I have one other question, think it was an important one is what can you tell people about their water? So like my wife and I, for instance, we live out in the country, but we were on county water and we just finished digging a well.
Speaker 2:Good for you.
Speaker 1:Having our house hooked up to, you know, water, it's 200 feet below the ground. But how important is water? Because I think a lot of people, they might change their diet, or they might make other changes, but they neglect their water. And they could be drinking city water or, you know, Dasani bottled water. So how important is water in this whole equation?
Speaker 2:Well, of course, it's very important. And when we lived in Washington, we had a whole house filter. Well, not a whole house filter, but it was a filter under the sink. I used to call it the oil refinery under the sink because it looks so complicated. But there are good filters that you can get.
Speaker 2:Radiant Life is a company that carries some excellent filters. My daughter got a Dualton filter of $99 and it takes out most of it, including all the fluoride. So there's various price ranges of filters that you can get. And you definitely want to filter city water. Then we moved to an apartment in Washington, and I got Mountain Valley Springs, which comes in glass bottles, two and a half gallon glass bottles.
Speaker 2:It was great for apartment living. And now we're very blessed to be out in the country and with a 500 foot well in an area that was famous for its water, actually, because Southern Maryland was famous for whiskey because it had good water.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see.
Speaker 2:So, yeah. And you don't want to buy water in plastic bottles because those bottles have been sitting in hot warehouses in Las Vegas or someplace, and that's when all the phthalates and everything come out in the water. So yeah, you do need to pay attention to your water. And, of course, not just the water you're drinking, but you're cooking with it and making broth or making kombucha. And it's very important to have good water.
Speaker 1:I think one thing that people also overlook is showering. You know, because we were on city water and my wife is much more sensitive to this and she got a shower and she's like, this is like a swimming pool. And whether it's a shower or bath, your body absorbs, your skin absorbs that chlorine and fluoride, whatever's in that water.
Speaker 2:And you can get shower filters that fit right on your shower.
Speaker 1:We bought a Berkey shower filter to use. And we also we have a big, you know, couple actually a couple different big Berkey stainless steel filters as well. Sally, thank you. It's been such a pleasure talking
Speaker 2:to you going to ask me about salt?
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. Yes, salt. I was yeah, you missed it. Tell us
Speaker 2:about Again, the government wants us to cut our salt consumption down to three quarters of a teaspoon a day. You absolutely need a teaspoon and a half of salt a day to get your sodium requirements and your chloride requirements. You can't make hydrochloric acids for digesting protein without salt. And most people actually need more than a teaspoon and a half a day. And of course, we recommend unrefined salt with all the minerals and everything.
Speaker 2:But here is one area where modern man is so much better off than the ancients because salt was hard to get. The supply was not always reliable. And in the old days, a lot of people died from salt starvation, which was mistaken for infectious disease because it was a horrible way to die. So everybody has salt. It's very inexpensive.
Speaker 2:Be sure to get unrefined salt because refined salt has aluminum in it. But eat the salt that your body is telling you to eat. Some people need more salt than others. And we just published an article in our journal. It might be interesting for your male listeners.
Speaker 2:You can't make testosterone without salt.
Speaker 1:Really?
Speaker 2:It's not interesting. Yeah. So especially if you're on a high protein diet, and it's low salt, and there are some crazy diets out there like that, you'll get feminized. Interesting. So salt is really important.
Speaker 2:And again, here's one other area where we've had to educate people. We've had to educate them about cholesterol, saturated fats, statins, vaccinations, and salt. Salt is essential for life.
Speaker 1:And so we get usually the Himalayan sea salt.
Speaker 2:That's fine.
Speaker 1:So avoid the Morton salt with the little girl with the umbrella, like the white table salt. Right? You should avoid that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, the Your taste buds will tell you how much salt you need.
Speaker 1:Okay. A side note is that, you know, if if in the future, go to a barter economy, salt is one of the most important bartering tools. So even from a prepping standpoint, if you've got a couple hundred pounds of salt, you could be trading up, you know, a cup of salt for a gallon of gasoline or who knows what in the future.
Speaker 2:Exactly. In fact, we make cheese, so we get salt in 22 pound bags. And I always make sure we have a lot on hand. Because yeah, can't do anything without salt.
Speaker 1:So it seems like just as a general rule, that whatever the FDA and USDA tell us, like do the opposite.
Speaker 2:Exactly. That's exactly right. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, great. So is there anything else that I missed, Sally? Anything Any other message you want to give to the audience?
Speaker 2:No. This was a lot of fun. Thanks for having me. And, yeah, I hope I opened some eyes. Don't just believe what I'm saying because all of these subjects I've written about.
Speaker 2:The Weston A. Price Foundation website is a gold mine of information. Everything we've ever published for the last twenty two years is on there. Do it with a really good search engine.
Speaker 1:Weston A Price. It's WestonAprice.org. Right? Yeah. We'll bring it back up for people.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's a good repository for here. Here we go.
Speaker 2:Excellent. Just for example, say you're suffering from gout. Put gout in there. You'll find a very interesting article about gout. Or you
Speaker 1:Is
Speaker 2:by Tom Callan?
Speaker 1:Let's see.
Speaker 2:Or you've been diagnosed with high blood pressure. There you go.
Speaker 1:I see. Oh, this a gold mine.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely. It's a great website. We finally broke down and put a Google search engine on it. Nothing else would work.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's got a good search engine now. And yeah.
Speaker 1:So would recommend that anybody who's watching this, if you're on any modern pharmaceutical medicines, then whatever the doctors tell you they're trying to fix, go to this website and search high blood pressure, cholesterol.
Speaker 2:Or osteoporosis or depression. And of course, we have a lot to say about pregnancy and healthy children.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'll make sure that I put all the links in the description to the video and the podcast for this. That way anybody after listening, you know, it'll have your key links, your nursing traditions blog, realmilk.com, and the Western A Price found you know, foundation website as well. That way folks can get this information because this is yeah.
Speaker 1:This is really, really important. And actually
Speaker 2:And and members receive our our journal.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And all of our material, the membership is $40.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And I promise you, you will enjoy that journal.
Speaker 1:So that's up here. Right? Is it a membership? Become a member on the top right?
Speaker 2:Become a member. Yep.
Speaker 1:Okay, great. Well, I would I would I would really encourage and actually, Kate, after this video, we should become a member so we get the journal too. I'd encourage everyone that's watching, if you can become a member because this is especially this day and age, this this this information is lifesaving.
Speaker 2:And look at all the great foods you can eat on our diet.
Speaker 1:Looks good to me. And actually, so just if my it's funny because my daughter, sometimes she just wants to eat butter. Yeah. Good to I've actually caught her in the kitchen before because she's got these little wandering toddler fingers, and she'll pull down a block of butter and she's sitting in the middle of the floor eating a block of butter. So Wonderful.
Speaker 1:Wonderful. So that's okay. Right?
Speaker 2:That's okay. She's telling you something.
Speaker 1:Oh, great. Well, Sally, it's been lovely having you today. I just, I appreciate everything that you've done. I appreciate giving me the time, but also just the books, the foundation, everything that you've done, you're playing important role. I hope that more people are finding your work.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Thank you. Well, I'm having a great time. It's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:Oh, wonderful.
Speaker 2:I've always enjoyed shocking people. You know, you've just got to shock people out of this mindset that the doctors are going to make you healthy because they're not.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Well, I'm sure that you must be enjoying your life right now because you're probably shocking a lot of people right now.
Speaker 2:So much fun. Yeah. Oh, wonderful.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you again. Have a wonderful rest of your day, and I'll I'll be on again in the future.
Speaker 2:Okay. Okay. Alright.
Speaker 1:Happy to care. Bye bye. Uh-huh.