They’re Getting DESPERATE as Mass Awakening Accelerates — Todd Callender Interview

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Seth Holehouse: 00:00

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So I think for a lot of us, we've been looking at what's happening in this world the past couple of years, and it's pretty dark. It's pretty scary. We're looking at these plans that have been written for decades, and it's all unfolding, and we're worrying about what our future looks like.

Seth Holehouse: 00:18

Are we entering into this futuristic technocracy? It looks like the hunger games. Are they depopulating us? There's so many different narratives to explore. And I have to be honest, it gets to be pretty depressing sometimes as you look at all this information.

Seth Holehouse: 00:33

And so joining me today is Todd Callender, who's an incredible man who's been on the front lines of exposing a lot of these agendas. And a lot of his his shows that he've done, they leave you thinking like, oh my gosh. This is pretty dark and insane, and it's probably working, you know, towards a pretty bleak future. But funny enough, Todd and I are actually decided that we're gonna be getting into a conversation that's gonna be uplifting and actually talking about why their plans are actually failing. And what a great conversation to have because, look, I know some will say, Seth, look.

Seth Holehouse: 01:06

You're like the black pill man now. It's like, well, I'm trying to be realistic about what's coming in the future. Or so we can at least change it now if we can, which I believe that we can. But it just this is gonna be a refreshing conversation with Todd Callender, really digging into why the plans of the elites are failing and all the indicators of that. So I hope that you thoroughly enjoy this episode because I think it's gonna be a good one for you.

Seth Holehouse: 01:31

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Seth Holehouse: 01:49

It really helps me to reach more people. And also, folks, much of the world is going through a process that experts are calling dedollarization, and China and Russia are leading the charge. So what exactly does this mean? You see, the US dollar is a fiat currency, meaning it isn't backed by anything of value. The only thing that really gives our dollars value is its demand around the world.

Seth Holehouse: 02:10

But now, and especially under Biden, the world is losing faith in the dollar, and it's very close to losing its status as the petrodollar and the world reserve currency, especially now that the oil producing nations are abandoning The US for China and other BRICS nations. But what happens if the dollar loses that sacred status? Well, the value of our dollars, our life savings, IRAs, stocks, bank accounts could literally be wiped out in a matter of months, weeks, or even overnight. And look, I'm not a financial adviser, so please do your own research, but I believe that now more than ever, it's a good time to consider transferring at least some of your wealth into physical gold and silver. Real world assets have stood the test of time.

Seth Holehouse: 02:51

And look, I wanna be really clear with you. You don't buy gold and silver to get rich. You do it to protect and preserve your wealth, especially in times like these. There's a reason why nations like Russia are backing their currency with gold and why the elites and central banks are buying up physical gold and silver like we've never seen before. But they don't want you to know that.

Seth Holehouse: 03:12

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Seth Holehouse: 03:40

Kirk Elliott's team of advisers will answer all of your questions and take care of you every step of the way. Again, that's [phone] or gold with seth dot com. Alright, folks. Let's jump in this interview with attorney Todd Callender. So Todd, it's such a pleasure to have you here.

Seth Holehouse: 03:59

And I have to say that, first off, I'll give a big shout out to Ann Vandersteel who made this meeting possible because you've done a good job of covering your tracks as I couldn't figure out how to get ahold of you. And I saw that it was actually through Anne that she made that connection. So a big, you know, thank you to her. But you're someone that I, you know, I've been following, and it was a recent interview you did with Sean at SGT report and a FEMA whistleblower. I said, okay.

Seth Holehouse: 04:21

We really gotta get you on to talk about what's happening, because how you're framing what's going on in this world is very important. And so what I'd like to do with today's discussion is look at understanding what's happening. You know, what is the enemy doing, which is important for us. We can't keep our head in the sand. But I also wanna talk about the reasons why you have hope for our species.

Seth Holehouse: 04:43

Right? As you've said, you know, earlier before we started recording here that you really do have hope, and that there is a lot of just good momentum, and there's there's there's reasons to look forward to the future, and there's reasons to believe that we're going to overcome this, which I think is an important message to always keep in mind, especially if we're going into these more dark topics, you know, about depopulation, etcetera. So thank you for being here, Todd.

Todd Callender: 05:05

Yeah. Thank you, Seth. Appreciate that. And again, I I'm grateful to Anne. I've really gotten to know her.

Todd Callender: 05:11

She's a lovely person, and I'm grateful to know her, and yourself too. Thank you for what it is you're doing.

Seth Holehouse: 05:16

Absolutely. Absolutely. So I guess I'll just, you know, kind of give you the the floor. What are you what do you want to dive into first?

Todd Callender: 05:23

Yeah. Let's let's start with the good news. Again, it's it's important anyway. We should talk about it often. And that is, for the first time in the last couple of years, I actually have hope that our species will survive this.

Todd Callender: 05:37

We have to confront that this is a genocide. It's been planned since at least 1994 with the agreement of all the governments on this planet to depopulate the planet, and this was the chosen methodology. Somebody asked me the other day, How did you, or when did you first recognize this and know this? And the answer is, for a very long time, because I've done business with this cast of characters. My family acquired the intellectual property rights to a needle free mass vaccination device, and I was tasked with getting it through the FDA investigative new device process, and it took three years.

Todd Callender: 06:12

I was in Cuba for that three years doing exactly that, doing clinical field trials with these same people. Pfizer, because they were providing the actual contents, the vaccines, I brought the WHO into Cuba, they had not been there previously, and I had the opportunity to do it with PATH, which is Bill Gates Foundation people, amongst others. So I had some very fortunate experiences understanding what this is all about, and how it is they think and why, At the same time, I had very unfortunate experiences with these very same people, particularly the Pfizer people, who could not have been more disgusting. When I introduced them to the highest levels of the Cuban government, I was really quite surprised that this was the means by which they operated. And so, over the years, watching where all of this is going, I live outside The United States, what people don't understand right now is the One World Government already exists.

Todd Callender: 07:05

The Organization for Economic and Cooperative Development has already tied it all up in terms of controlling the money supply. In fact, in 2016, all OECD member countries capitulated, and they appointed the OECD as the entity in charge of all tax and fiscal policy matters. So, the next steps, the logical steps from these multilateral agreements, whether that's the agenda for the twenty first century, the 1994 Cairo Accords, or the Rio Accords in 1992 having to do with the environment, all of them lead to the very place where we are right now. Mass reduction in the world's population, the elimination of borders for the purpose of eliminating sovereignty, and the elimination of private property rights, all of which leads towards this dystopian Soviet model economy. And what we're experiencing right now is all of them combined, all of those attacks are happening at this very same moment.

Todd Callender: 08:00

So my perspective is a very broad one, frankly trying to frustrate this for the last twenty years and having very little success in so doing, but what it did do is gave me the perspective to understand the real paradigm, and the real paradigm is this: our governments are a facade. They are, in fact, the warrant sorry, they are the wardens in a giant prison complex. They control us, and they give us this illusion that we elect them. They give us this illusion that we're being protected, when in reality, they're controlling every feature of human behavior. I can give you a very clear example of this.

Todd Callender: 08:35

In 1995, when I took the bar exam, there were 270,000 volumes that's books of law in existence in The United States Of America, from your city, your county, your state, federal government, and all the agencies in between, imagine how hard they have tried to regulate every single feature of human behavior. And all of it was designed to drive us to this very moment, to make us think that we have this illusion of choice, that these shots, or kill shots, because that's what they are, they're gene modification shots designed to kill or transfer, or I should say, really, I guess it's transhumanism. It's to modify people into a biosyn or syn biospecies, so they actually refer to us as Borg. The point in all of that is that the last hundred, maybe it's even for hundreds of years, have been marching us down this road from this very moment, in accordance with what are UN multilateral agreements, UN conventions. And I'm honored that we were chosen, yourself included, to talk to people about this, and frankly try to bring the truth to a lot of people, and help them understand the real paradigm so that they can exercise their one God given right, and that is the freedom of choice.

Todd Callender: 09:56

It's their free will. And my optimism comes from people opting out. Take Anne Vandersteel for example. She's abandoned the federal system, she's a state national, and she said, I'm not having any more of this. There are 10,000,000 people like her, and I'd like to see a couple hundred million more.

Seth Holehouse: 10:14

Oh, yeah, she and I actually did an interview with her on that, which was it was incredible to see, like, how she's just saying, look, I'm just opting out. I'm not gonna play by I'm not gonna. It's like not even saying I'm not gonna play by their rules. It's like, I'm not gonna play their game anymore. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 10:27

It's like someone who has a corrupted you know, that they're a corrupt banker. They keep wanting to play monopoly. It's just like, I'm just gonna and play on the swing set. You know I mean? It's like, I'm not gonna play in your game anymore.

Seth Holehouse: 10:37

Yeah. And so are you seeing are you like, I guess, what are the signs that you're seeing that people are opting out? Because I think that from, you know, one perspective, when I look back, you know, especially earlier on the first year or so of the pandemic, you saw everyone wearing masks and there's, you know, everyone was attacking you on social media. And it does feel like some things are opening up, especially with, you know, a little more freedom of speech coming back onto Twitter. But are you seeing any, you know, kind of more significant indicators that people are using that that freedom of choice that we've been given by God?

Todd Callender: 11:10

Well, because they're I guess the silent majority is becoming a little bit more apparent. So from the very beginning, let's take the military, for example, who I sued last year, in August of last year. They keep assuming that there is a 98% compliance rate. And I say the word assuming because that's what they're representing to everybody, when in fact we know that's not true. At the very most, 74% of the entirety of the military got two shots, and it's substantially less than that they got one shot.

Todd Callender: 11:43

The same applies for the general population, whether you're talking about The United States or Europe or elsewhere. The CDC, FDA, Pfizer, et al, have said, Oh, we've got wonderful compliance in the early times. Everybody's go out and get your boosters, and they're producing all these shots on the basis that people are going to take it up. In reality, they are destroying hundreds of millions of shots because people aren't doing it. And the real statistics, I think, are that forty five percent of the entire world got one shot, and I think it's substantially less than that that actually got two or more.

Todd Callender: 12:20

What that shows me is that people are going along to get along, whether they're getting a fake vaccine card, or whether they're just not talking about it, not leaving their house, or whatever it is, one way or another, the silent majority is not going along with this, and they've done a really good job of hiding that. And it's only now becoming apparent, because the only way really out of this is to disregard illegal laws. Everything that is happening right now is a perversion of our constitution. There's exigent circumstances that demand that we have to surrender our constitutional rights, and yet we're finding people saying, you know, look, I'm just not going to participate in your nonsense, and they go on about their lives, And I think that that includes voting with their feet, right? The airlines were requiring all these nonsensical things and people just stopped flying.

Todd Callender: 13:11

So I'm really happy to see that it's not so easy to kill 7,000,000,000 people, because that's the goal of the exercise. They had to convince everybody to effectively commit suicide, the vast majority didn't. So that's encouraging by itself.

Seth Holehouse: 13:26

And so as we're heading into 2023, you know, I recently interviewed Francis Boyle, right, professor from Chicago. Brilliant, brilliant man talking about the the WHO pandemic treaty. And and that just that just one aspect of what looks to be part of a a bigger narrative that, you know, the one way that I look at is is is perhaps that COVID in the first round was just to lay the groundwork. It was just so they could then put in all their control mechanisms so that that way, when the the next round comes, like, say, pandemic two point o we're, you know, we're no longer really given an option, you know, to obey. And so I guess this is more of a twofold question is, do you think that they that they're, you know, approaching this second pandemic?

Seth Holehouse: 14:16

What will that look like in 2023 and on? And do you think that that will be successful?

Todd Callender: 14:22

This goes to the other part of the hope quotient. So one of the things that I noticed really, I guess it was last year, is that things weren't going the way that I call them the owners, the way that the owners want it to. I call Bank for International Settlements the owners of this world, and the reason for that is because they own all of the central banks on the planet, save three, who are able to print money out of thin air. So, if you were able to print money out of thin air and lend it to a government for any amount that you wanted to, what would stop you from buying up the entire planet and buying up people, at least their allegiance? And the short answer to that question is nothing, and that's precisely what they've done.

Todd Callender: 14:59

Our governments, plural, are owned by these people. They are controlled by the money supply. And so what's very interesting about that is they seem to be missing to me. The Vatican, the Crown, and the Rothschild family, in fact, are really the people behind the Bank for International Settlements, and they've been missing, missing in action. I'll give you an example.

Todd Callender: 15:23

When all the saber rattling was happening with Ukraine, Putin only moved 200,000 troops with aged armor up to the border of Ukraine, because he called it a military action, in fact, it was like a police action, like what happened in Korea. At the same time, the Kazakhs were going crazy over this new digital vaccine passport that they needed in order to access their money. And they said, No, we're not doing it. In fact, they had a big firefight, and they took out the doctors and the people in their government, literally beheading and burning down their houses. Well, at that same time, they were supported by Russia's Spetsnaz, their special forces units, and they took Astana.

Todd Callender: 16:03

Why is that important? Astana was built by the Bank for International Settlements to be the new kingdom of their world that they intended to control, and now it is in the hands of Vladimir Putin and the Kazakhs. It is not the Bank for National Settlements trying to trick Russia into a nuclear exchange, right, in furtherance of this mass depopulation. Any mass depopulation thing will work for these purposes. They couldn't get them to do it.

Todd Callender: 16:27

They couldn't unite UNato to go into Ukraine. All of these things are impossible When you have heretofore the bank for international settlements controlling everything in our world, all of a sudden they're not controlling everything in our world, and that gives me hope as well. And it goes back to what's the next time, right? Bill Gates said it. They're going pay attention next time.

Todd Callender: 16:48

Well, you know what? They've already kind of tried it in bunch of different ways. At this very moment, there's a patient from Africa, from Ghana, that was brought there with Ebola. Why did they bring him to Denver, Colorado? There's another one sitting in The UK, and prior to that 300 people per day coming out of that part of Africa, which is under an Ebola lockdown.

Todd Callender: 17:07

They have an outbreak according to the WHO. Why are they flying these people around? And why is it that we don't have that Ebola outbreak? I think the answer to that question is they're being frustrated. Could be as simple as something as silly as that, you know, in such a finite control paradigm that was created can cause havoc, and I think that President Trump actually had something to do with that as well.

Todd Callender: 17:36

All of this was planned so intricately for so very long. When one little thing goes out of whack, the whole thing is going out of whack. And I get the impression that they are behind on their schedule. I get the impression that too many people have woken up, thanks in no small part to you, and in other people like you. And now we've got people actually coming to this conversation recognizing that this is a genocide, recognizing that this is an attack on humanity itself.

Todd Callender: 18:03

These are gene modification shots that comes from the words of Pfizer, that comes from the words of Moderna. Alright? We're going to train your body to create spike proteins. That seems to be resonating with people, and now we have mass noncompliance, and that is what gives me so much hope.

Seth Holehouse: 18:21

So it's interesting hearing your perspective, because you've been saying this for a very long time, and you'd by doing that, you have an understanding of where their plans should be and what their actions should look like. And for a lot of people, they're just coming into this, even over the past couple of years. It is quite easy to look around and see, you know, Klaus Schwab talking about, you know, digital passports or Harare talking about them playing God or look at the pandemic treaty or, you know, look at what's what's Biden's doing and look at all of these different indicators that make you think. It's easy to think like, wow, they've got this so meticulously planned. It's so powerful.

Seth Holehouse: 19:01

But it's almost like like, let's just say that there's, you know, two generals, you know, fighting a war. And when the first general attacks, you know, he's got his plan. The people in the city, all they know is that we're at war, and and they're trying to kill us. Right? But the other general might have might have studied that attack plan for twenty years.

Seth Holehouse: 19:20

And he might know, look, this this general has already missed five out of his seven key key indicators. He's, you know, missed these things, and he's off track, and he's actually not gonna win because of that. And so I feel like that's that it's interesting because I love, you know, I love the opportunity to sit down with folks like you because you changed my thinking. It's like, oh, I had these light bulbs that go off. And it's like, that's interesting.

Seth Holehouse: 19:42

That makes sense. And so, yeah, so to look at this and say that, you know, from your perspective, yes, it feels like they're this big scary enemy, but the fundamentally is that their plan is not working how they wanted it to. And their timelines are off, the acceptance is off, their control of the media is off, the you know, everything is just actually falling out for them. It's like their their plan is crumbling. And they still want us to think that their plan is succeeding because, again, they understand this is a psychological war.

Seth Holehouse: 20:12

And so it's easy to feel like that. You know, Bill Gates isn't gonna get up there on stage and say, you know what? You know, our our plan for, you know, depopulation is actually failing, and it's not doing very well. Right? They're gonna get up there and just say that, you know, give us the impression that it's all, you know, going as normal.

Seth Holehouse: 20:27

He's gonna smirk and smile as he talks about the next time it comes around. But the fact that you're seeing these, that that does give me hope that this is a very intricate war and their process of taking over. There's so many finite details that a wrench here and there can really disrupt that.

Todd Callender: 20:46

You've got it exactly right. And I can give you another example, an instant one, funny enough. If you look at the cover of The Economist magazine, The Economist magazine was created by the Rothschild family. They own the publishing. Right?

Todd Callender: 20:59

On the cover of 1998, there's an eagle with a bitcoin around its neck standing on a pile of burning cash, and it says, you know, cash will be no more in 2018. Their mission was to create the crypto, the block chain SDR. That's the currency of the INF. What year are we now? It's almost 2023.

Todd Callender: 21:18

We're not cashless. You see that they just rolled out central bank digital currency. That was supposed to be in place a long time ago, as we're moving forward to one economy, right? A central economy, again, the Soviet model with one currency. That was supposed to be 02/2008, that's five years ago, and it hasn't happened.

Todd Callender: 21:36

And then more recently, you might have seen the blow up with the crypto exchange FTX. That that's in my yard. I live in The Caribbean. And have some personal knowledge about this, and I can tell you that Bill Clinton and his crew came down here and they had dubbed the FTX was going to be the carbon credit trading platform for the world. Carbon credits, as it relates to your living, breathing bio or synbio body, the one that got genetically transmutated, is actually the word that I'm looking for, into a part machine, part person.

Todd Callender: 22:11

They had designed all of this to actually be able to apply credits and debits to somebody's carbon output by virtue of their breathing. And FTX was supposed to be the exchange for the trading of those carbon credits, and what happened? Boom, it got blown up. And now we see that it was being used for money laundering. It was being used to fund the Democrats for money going that was supposed be in the Ukraine to help them.

Todd Callender: 22:36

What a bunch of hogwash. Now everybody can see it if they have eyes to see and ears to hear. And you're right. It's crumbling. And every time we get these little nuggets of gold, Elon Musk sharing exactly how how much of a facade our media has been.

Todd Callender: 22:53

Right? How controlled it's been all the way down to Twitter, sorry, and social media. So you've you've got it exactly right. It's it's dissolving.

Seth Holehouse: 23:02

What you one thing I like to look at because I I like to look at things in terms of metaphors and analogies and paint pictures, and it's almost as if humanity as a whole, we are way more powerful than they are. And they know that. And so let's just use the the kind of metaphor. Say they're trying like, say humanity is a lion that they're trying to to actually capture and put a cage in. So they they've shot us with tranquilizers.

Seth Holehouse: 23:23

We've been tranquilized, and they're rushing to build this cage around the lion because they have to get the cage built before the lion wakes up. Otherwise, it's gonna eat them. Right? But what's happening, though, is that there's all these it's like, this guy ordered the wrong parts, and that you know, they lost a screw here. And so they're scrambling, but at the same time, they're rushing to build this cage.

Seth Holehouse: 23:53

The lion starts waking up, which is this is what's happening. Humanity is waking up. But as they've seen that, they're saying, uh-oh. Ikea has moved his paw. They're quickening their cage building process, which is actually causing more problems in their cage building process because they're they're now trying to accelerate it.

Seth Holehouse: 24:09

It's not working. And as you know, what I see is that even though we we can sense this cage is being built around us, which it absolutely is, it's, you know, technocracy, transhumanist, you know, totalitarian cage. I think that what's really happening, though, is that we're waking up faster than they can complete this. And the what you mentioned about The Economist cover and how they predict it, because they know exactly what they're doing. When they say, you know, the dollar will be replaced by a digital currency by 2018, that's not conjecture.

Seth Holehouse: 24:37

That's not just in front of the dark. That's them The plan. Unveiling a very, very detailed plan. It's probably a thousands and thousands of page long plan to do that. And the fact that here we are in 2022, and they're just doing these pilot programs, and all these people are now talking about it.

Seth Holehouse: 24:53

It's like, well, screw that. I'm gonna buy some silver then. I mean, I'm not gonna be playing into your digital currency thing. It's it's on a sec. It's it's really encouraging.

Seth Holehouse: 25:01

It's genuinely encouraging.

Todd Callender: 25:03

It is, and you know the best thing about all this is competition. Now we're seeing the BRICS, right? Brazil, Russia, India, China saying, you you cut off money supply to Russia, we recognize that, and you could be doing the exact same thing to us. So we're just gonna go do our own thing over here, and that competition makes it absolutely impossible for there to be a one world anything. You know, it's the saving grace as you described.

Todd Callender: 25:31

I liked your analogy, by the way. The lion is awakening. It is the masses, and thank God for that. It's truly a blessing. The scales are being lifted.

Seth Holehouse: 25:40

Yeah. It is, and you can feel it. You can feel it. And so, you know, going back to kind of the, you know, Bill Gates smirking saying, okay, well, next time. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 25:49

So all the hints at this pandemic two point o and what you talked about in terms of, you know, Ebola and Ghana, what do you think how do you think it's gonna transpire over the next year or two? Do you think they're gonna attempt to, say, roll out you know, bring out lockdowns and mask mandates again, and people are just gonna just start rebelling?

Todd Callender: 26:08

Your question was how is this gonna pan out? And and they have to do it. Let's start with that, that they've got a playbook, and they have to stick to it, and you can watch that. And they are in a hurry. For whatever reason, they've got a 02/1930 deadline.

Todd Callender: 26:22

Everything has to be done by then. And so they are rushing, and they're missing steps now. They're having to jump in front of things, and they're rushing the next time, which is of course, you know, Ebola MARBERG. And how do we know that? Because there was MARBERG provisions of the PREP Act that said should there be a MARBERG pandemic, well then here's all the money for these quarantine camps and the new vaccines, blah blah blah.

Todd Callender: 26:45

They already spent that money. They spent it in 2021. So apparently there was already a Marburg pandemic. Nobody noticed. So the rest of it has to unfold.

Todd Callender: 26:56

They have to introduce it, and I think that's why they're flying Ebola patients in. FEMA, our whistleblower, said they're on bioweapons terror alerts for the next year, effectively. And yet, I see the kind of ho thing. I think people have just kind of had enough of it. They went through the psychological torture of solitary confinement for two years.

Todd Callender: 27:16

Look what it did to our kids. And I guess my point in saying this is that the mass majority, and I mean that globally, are done with this. They're seeing the control paradigm, and as these things roll in, you know, the next one is a compulsory mask wearing inside. We saw that come out of the CDC the other day. I don't see anybody doing it.

Todd Callender: 27:36

Every now and again I see a person wearing a mask. But people have recognized the damage, and I think it's a big ho And you know, people have to remember that there is no government without the people, right? The consent of the governed is a requisite to having a government. The same thing goes for our federal government. There's no federal government without the states.

Todd Callender: 27:57

And so you see people now showing up into city council meetings, into school board meetings, and they're having their voice heard, they're making differences, and they're stopping to serve you know, those who have abused their power. I'm sorry, you're in the checkout line. I don't know you. I'm not going to help you. That kind of a thing is happening, and it may seem small scale, but all of it leads to one giant thing, which is the opt out.

Todd Callender: 28:20

It's what Ann said. I'm done with the game. And the more of that gives us the opportunity to go back to God's laws, go back to humanity, loving humanity. Forget about this nonsense of contrived wars. I mean, look at Vietnam.

Todd Callender: 28:34

There never was a Gulf Of Tonkin incident. It has been declassified. The pretext for that war never happened. Have to look at the Middle East. Again, a failed pretext.

Todd Callender: 28:44

People are finally recognizing that we've been abused this whole time, and we're going to shed ourselves of that nonsense, of the idea that government is going to solve our problems. That's the winning thing right there, is that we're going to solve our own problems.

Seth Holehouse: 28:59

I also think that a lot of what's happened really ties into China, And and, you know, looking back, looking forward, if you look at you know, so if you take a step back, you know, I mentioned the line of been tranquilized. Right? Which is true. I mean, I think that, you know, Americans have been purposefully dumbed down. They've been putting fluoride in our waters.

Seth Holehouse: 29:16

They've been putting, you know, the chemtrails in the skies. They've been, you know, dumbing down our education. You know, they've done everything to really turn us into these very passive ignorant cattle that they can then herd up and and, you know, run them off to the slaughterhouse. And and we can sense that now. You know, even with you look at what the the celebrities, you know, celebrity worship they've created in the culture, the worship of sports, and and and now everything that they've really taken us down this extreme path to do that.

Seth Holehouse: 29:43

And I think that we're now waking up to it. But let's look at the extreme, which is this which is communist China. It's like if we think that we've been dumbed down, the the people that have lived under communism, you know, since, you know, the, you know, cultural revolution, everything that's happened there, it's like they haven't just been dumbed down, but they've had their religion stripped away. They've had their thinking changed so much, you know, because then I've studied communism a lot, and the the the psychological change that happens to someone that lives under communist system, it's like the deepest programming. It's almost MK Ultra to the nth degree on the entire mass of people.

Seth Holehouse: 30:22

But if you look at the fact of that, but also you have the history of China, look at Tiananmen Square Massacre, look at the organ harvesting of Falun Gong, look at the Uighur concentration camps. This is a government that's shown that it will slaughter its own people for any any given reason on any day of the week. No problem. Yet you still have over there the people, you know, coming out that are somehow breaking out of this brainwashing. They're somehow Yeah.

Seth Holehouse: 30:48

They're they're they're stepping past their fear of being disappeared in China and being thrown into the back of a van. And so it's like, if I can see if the Chinese people can be actually, know, having a a real, a noncommunist revolution to overthrow the tyranny, It's like, how can any nation on Earth not have the same courage to overthrow? And that's why I think that, like, what I I think what we're gonna be seeing over the next couple of years and maybe even sooner is I think that we will see the downfall of the Chinese Communist Party at the hands of the people. And what kind of lesson does that set for the rest of the world? And what do you think the globalists are thinking?

Seth Holehouse: 31:24

Thinking, oh my gosh. Look what's happening in China. If that spreads, like, we're done for.

Todd Callender: 31:29

Well, yes. And I think that's actually happening right now. And it really goes back to fear. And the Chinese are now faced with this prospect. They recognize that they are all doomed at any given moment, right, by virtue of their digital if it's green, you get a go.

Todd Callender: 31:48

If it's red, sorry, you go into a quarantine camp. Maybe you don't come out of the quarantine camp, and they recognize that. So I think it's a function of losing their fear, and believe it or not, I think a lot of that has to do with their relationship with a higher power. Yeah. You know, we when we understand that this is a brief moment in time that we're on this planet and the rest of it is forever, then I think we we can shed our our fear of things.

Todd Callender: 32:12

And I see that same thing happening globally. People are awakening and saying, you know, what is the choice after all? Because as you mentioned, and you're absolutely right, the Chinese have demonstrated when there is totalitarian control, which is what this one world government was supposed to be, all bets are off. You're chattel property, and in fact that's really one of the things I sued the DOD about, is that when somebody is genetically mutated, they become the chattel property of the patent holders. And this is my point entirely, is that our thirteenth amendment outlawed that, but there's also three separate conventions on this subject matter, meaning where all of humanity agreed you don't get to own other people.

Todd Callender: 32:52

And it's a strange way of saying it, but people are saying, No, I'm not owned. They're rising, and they're saying that if my choice is to stand now or die later, I'll stand now. And I think that that's happening. I think it's contagious, and I pray it is so.

Seth Holehouse: 33:06

And I guess, looking at your personal story, is, you know, what is it that that triggered you to to kinda take the path that you've taken? Because I'm I'm guessing, I would assume, that, you know, you could have probably had a very lucrative career getting, you know, especially if you're in vaccine manufacturing or the the delivery system manufacturing, like what you talked about. And that's also the thing that, like, you know, yes, we have doctors that are losing their licenses to practice. We have attorneys that are getting kicked out of the bar for, you know, going after the wrong people. I would imagine that, you know, you speaking out against the danger of vaccines could compromise your potential good future of being Yeah.

Seth Holehouse: 33:42

Your family's industry. And so but, obviously, you've had to make a decision to say, this is more important. So what was that decision process like for you?

Todd Callender: 33:51

It actually wasn't a decision at all. It was something that simply had to be done. My law partners and a lot of the doctors that I work with all feel the exact same way. We recognized very early on in this that if we don't stand, there will be no such thing as a human being, that our species will be extinct. So our choice was fight now, or there will be no humans that we can sell insurance to or sell needle free injectors to, because we won't exist.

Todd Callender: 34:20

We understood when we actually saw what was in these shots, and understood them for what they are. Right? It is a weapon. It's a weapon system. There really was no choice at all.

Todd Callender: 34:32

And so I've been blessed with a lovely wife and family around me who understood that, yeah, I'm risking everything to do this, but there really is no choice in the matter.

Seth Holehouse: 34:44

Yeah. I think I went through a similar process on my own. Especially, you know, there's a lot of people that might be, you know, kind of hidden behind an avatar or some name like, you know, Super Patriot nineteen, that they're out there doing things. But when you're putting your own name and your reputation out there, it's a very, you know, it's a very different story. So I wanna it's funny how this this conversation has has, you know, transformed, because I was thinking, okay, you know, especially after listening to the FEMA whistleblower interview with SGT, it's like, okay.

Seth Holehouse: 35:12

So, like, you know, I'm gonna be have Todd on. We're gonna be talking about really unpacking this this dark plan of depopulation, looking into the transhumanist stuff. And I and I still wanna get to some of that because I think you have a really unique perspective on that. But it's incredible how it's actually turned into it's like, hey. This is actually great.

Seth Holehouse: 35:27

Let let's just talk about all the ways that the enemy is failing. Because it's like, what good news to deliver to people. Right? I hope that those people that are watching, if you made it this far, that you can share this video and say, Hey, here's some here's some positive news about the collapse of the deep states plan to depopulate And

Todd Callender: 35:46

help us. Right? That is the best part is that in a strange way, Seth, we're kind of winning this thing, or at least for now it appears that we have a really good chance. When I say winning, that's simply surviving. That means that our species will continue to exist.

Todd Callender: 36:01

So, yeah, jump on the bandwagon, come on, and frustrated. It's every one of us doing the smallest thing. For a long time I've been telling people the key to this whole thing is law enforcement and people in uniform, because the totalitarians will have to force this on us, right? That has to come because we're not going with it anymore. So it's really the people in uniform that will be tasked with doing this, and it's as simple as finding the deputy, you know, who's in the coffee shop.

Todd Callender: 36:25

Buy him a cup of coffee and have a chance to chat with him. Tell him what it is you know, what your concerns are. We have to rebuild these relationships across borders, across industries, across uniform and not uniform, because at the end of the day this is about humanity. Does humanity survive? And these are people, right?

Todd Callender: 36:43

We're all people we all believe, Brett. And I guess the other part of that is trying to now figure out, you know, how are we going to help those that sell for this? I'm sure nobody intended to be turned into some kind of a bio machine. I'm sure nobody intended to commit suicide. But those things do exist, right?

Todd Callender: 37:03

All of that, sadly, is true. So I think the cool part is being able to amend our conversations away from, you know, the next time that Bill Gates talks about it, and say, okay, now how are we going to help people recover from this? How are going to recover our society? And I think there's a lot of work to be done there.

Seth Holehouse: 37:21

As, you know, for the folks that are watching and thinking, this is great, but you know, what can I do? So as the next, say, year or so rolls out and which, you know, you've been studying a lot of what you think that they're gonna be doing, what their agenda is, and what are the what are the signs that people should look for? You know, where are they hiding their their agenda, and how can people resist it in the right ways?

Todd Callender: 37:46

Good. Well, the the number one concern I have, because it seems to be the root of all the problems, is the is the five g system. Let me put it to you differently. It's it's the EMF contagion. It's the EMF signals.

Todd Callender: 38:00

It's weapons platform by itself, and a lot of times we refer to it as five gs, which is simply the fifth generation of this weapon system, because there were four prior to it.

Seth Holehouse: 38:11

I interviewed Doctor. Robert Young recently, which I'll be publishing within the next week or so, and he is somebody who studies extensively and literally said that five g has made the atom bomb obsolete. Such a powerful weapon system. It's made nuclear weapons obsolete, basically. Just want to throw that in there.

Seth Holehouse: 38:27

No,

Todd Callender: 38:29

you're right. It's where I was actually going because it's exactly right, is that they have the ability, they being whoever it is that controls this, heretofore the owners, the ability to press a button and cause any malady that we've ever, diagnosed heretofore in humanity. It's a function of changing the way our genome operates and the hydrophilic bonds. I'm sure Doctor. Young would have talked about that.

Todd Callender: 38:51

So he's right, and here we have this weapons platform all around us, and while we were all locked down, they installed them in every public school across The United States. So how does one deal with that? You know, we've been trying the court system. Children's Health Defense has filed a few suits. They even were lucky in one suit and got a judgment, and guess what happened?

Todd Callender: 39:11

Nothing. So I think the first order of business for people is to refuse to use five gs. If you've got a five gs device, get rid of it. I don't think turning it off is good enough. When they turned on the five gs transmitters, 10,000 of them in Wuhan, Halloween Twenty Nineteen, the next thing we know we had this COVID epidemic.

Todd Callender: 39:33

The next month, November of that year, 21,000,000 Chinese ditched their five gs, whether that was by their subscriptions or by their devices themselves. I think we should take a page out of their book, and we can refuse this. I don't want your damn five gs, and I'm not going to participate in it. There will be people in the marketplace that will be happy to provide us flip phones or three gs or whatever else that isn't harmful, but we don't have to tolerate that. We can vote with our pocketbooks.

Seth Holehouse: 40:01

What about, like in America, I'm not sure what it's like down in The Bahamas, but, you know, I live in rural Ohio, and, you know, I'm seeing nothing within, say, a mile from me, but even a mile and a half, two miles away, I'm seeing five g towers everywhere. And that this is, you know, rural Ohio. I go into Columbus, and every city block, there's this five g tower shooting up. And so, you know, and I've I've I'm very aware of the health effects of these. And it's like, it's kinda like, you know, as a kid, he'd be watching the popcorn in the microwave, and my mom would be like, Seth, like, don't do that.

Seth Holehouse: 40:33

It's gonna, like, fry your brain. Right? Yeah. Here, they're putting these, like, giant towers that can basically microwave us at will. So what about folks, you know, living in their home?

Seth Holehouse: 40:44

What happens if if there's five g towers going up everywhere? How do you how do we escape that, or how do we protect ourselves from that?

Todd Callender: 40:51

Yeah. There are some people that are actually creating devices that do that, and and I'm not up enough to understand, you know, how effective they are or are. My real ambition here, as it relates to this weapon system, is for people to recognize it as such, and particularly law enforcement. A few years ago, as four gs was going in Australia, people actually started filing criminal complaints, and they got the police to agree that this was in fact an assault under Australian law. We're in the exact same situation right now.

Todd Callender: 41:23

If we can have that cup of coffee with a law enforcement officer, if we can, you know, vote in sheriffs that will do something about it, we can actually use our legal system to stop this and say, look, this is a battery. It is happening right now. Here are the ill effects. The evidence is overwhelming. We should use our systems that are already in place to injunct them, to stop them, to tear the damn things down, because they're not doing us any favors, right, and they're going up irrespective of people's desires.

Todd Callender: 41:51

We have to make this something really known to them. If we had an army of a million, let's say we had a million moms and pops that filed their criminal complaints, and we've actually drafted formal ones for people to utilize. If you want to, it's at fivesmallstones.com with the word I'm sorry, the number five. If we showed en masse and we complained to law enforcement, Look, this is a battery, it's in process. I don't want it stopped.

Todd Callender: 42:16

They would have to take us seriously. And again, Children's Health Defense has done a wonderful job of showing us exactly what this complaint would look like, so why don't we all band together and put a stop to this and overwhelm the system?

Seth Holehouse: 42:28

I'll pull up the website really quick. So you say it's fivesmallstones

Todd Callender: 42:32

dot That's right. Fivesmallstones.com, and the other place we store a lot of stuff is at Vaxchoice.com. So Five Small Stones was actually created from an experience we had with the military. When we filed suit against the DOD, we had a presumptive class of a couple hundred thousand plaintiffs, people in the service that didn't want to take the shots. We couldn't service them.

Todd Callender: 42:55

We had thousands and thousands of them calling us, and so what we did instead was we created form complaints, draft documents for them to adopt, their own battle, and sure enough, that's what happened. Hundreds of thousands of service members started filing complaints. Some filed lawsuits. A lot of them filed what are called IG complaints, some of them Nuremberg notices, things of that nature. The point is that they overwhelmed the military system with paperwork and effectively ground it to a halt.

Todd Callender: 43:22

We're seeking to do the same thing with Five Small Stones, is give people the tools, whether it's civil or criminal law tools, to help people understand you don't need a lawyer. The court system are there for you as part of our government. You're paying for it. Use it. Whether that's the police or whether that's the civil system.

Todd Callender: 43:40

And so we're adding to that side all of the time and trying to help people find it. And then there's a bunch of lawyers and doctors, paralegals and nurses, and regular Joes that have actually done their own pro se lawsuits to help. If you look at the guys Brunson right now, it's a guy out of Utah who's about to get in front of the Supreme Court. He's a pro se litigant. How beautiful is that?

Todd Callender: 44:02

He may undo the twenty twenty election. Just some guy that that was bothered and stood for himself. Imagine if we had a million people like that.

Seth Holehouse: 44:11

Yeah. That's exactly what they don't want, because then, again, that's that lion. Right? That's that lion breaking up. Do you think that, you know, as we're looking into the into the future and we say, okay, this plan doesn't, you know, doesn't end up working.

Seth Holehouse: 44:25

It does collapse. I mean, do you foresee that we'll be able to have some sort of, you know, say global Nuremberg trials? Or I mean, do you think that we'll be able to, as as we, the people, bring these evil entities and individuals to justice?

Todd Callender: 44:41

Yeah. It it must happen. Because if it doesn't, we're going to end right back here again in a very short order. I'm encouraged because that's actually what Russia is doing right now in Donbas. They opened war crimes tribunals, and by virtue of the conventions, the young conventions, certainly the good professor that you had on knows about it, but there is something called universal jurisdiction, and, crimes against humanity were born in international law of the Nuremberg trials.

Todd Callender: 45:12

While Nuremberg was happening, there was the exact same set of trials happening in Tif, right, in Ukraine, because Russia's I'm sorry, Europe was split in half. Russia took over Eastern Europe, and the Allies took over West, but they were doing the exact same thing. They're war crimes tribunals, and the universal jurisdiction means that some crimes are so heinous that anybody under color of law, anybody with any authority whatsoever, including a meter maid, right? Parking tickets, somebody or other, they're wearing uniform, they've got the ability to bring these crimes into a tribunal for adjudication, and that's exactly what's happening in Donbas right now. Russia is doing that, and they're airing everybody's dirty laundry, including our country's, with the bioweapons factories in Ukraine.

Todd Callender: 45:55

So that is happening, and it must happen. For if it doesn't, we're gonna be right back here again.

Seth Holehouse: 46:02

It also is, you know, if you look at what's rolling out around the world and the fact that there never was a Nuremberg for communism. It just seemed like that everything became around Hitler and the Nazis, and that that was what they focused on. Yet Yep. You know, like, look at the amount of death that communism has caused versus

Todd Callender: 46:20

Yes.

Seth Holehouse: 46:20

The Nazi movement. It's it's it's a whole different scale. And I think that that's this, and this is I think the important part of this is that whatever happens, we have to be able to cement a lesson that is so great and so deep that even two thousand years from now, people look back and they remember this time, and they remember what happened when the earth was overtaken by darkness and the lessons that were learned from that. Because, you know, the the darkness never really dies. It just goes away.

Seth Holehouse: 46:51

You know what mean? I think a lot of it can die, but like it's, you know, it's the nature of this world. Right? This is a world of good and Right? Like, you know, we're not in heaven yet.

Seth Holehouse: 46:59

So there is gonna be evil in this world. So I think that that's the key is that whatever happens, we have to leave this lesson for for the future of humanity that we can never allow this to go to happen again.

Todd Callender: 47:11

Yeah. I agree with you. And I and I think the number one part of that is to abandon this this whole duopoly of power thing that the left versus right is nonsensical, the black versus white, all of that is really just a tool to divide us and control us. We're all people. It's really that simple.

Todd Callender: 47:30

We're all brothers and sisters in God's creations, and if we can forget about all that divisiveness and really go back to the foundations of treating others like you'd like to be treated and loving other people simply because they are people, I think that'll go a long way towards that.

Seth Holehouse: 47:46

I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. Well, Todd, I feel this is actually a good good note to end on, this positive momentum. And so I wanna say, you know, for folks that are watching, where can they follow you? Where can they keep track of what you're doing?

Todd Callender: 48:00

Sure. Well, the law firm is Disabled Rights Advocates. It's a Colorado law firm, and I've got some law partners, and we're out there helping as many as we can, most of the time free of charge. We're just trying to help humanity survive. Vaxchoice is a repository.

Todd Callender: 48:15

It's Vaxchoice.com, 2 X's, for all of the evidence. Everything that I talk about is coming from documents, peer reviewed documents most of the time that's actually there. People can go look for themselves. Five Small Stones is the self help legal clinic, effectively. People are welcome to come there and take it all.

Todd Callender: 48:34

It's all for free. There is no donation button or anything on any of these places other than my good friend Robert Ajit, who's actually doing Banners for Freedom. We like to support him. And then lastly, Truth For Health Foundation is Doctor. Lee Lee, who's just been a gem in helping people prepare for all of these things, and she's got a tremendous amount of good information for people, self help stuff, and it's truthforhealth.org.

Todd Callender: 49:00

So all of those places combined you can find me. I'm a nuisance at that.

Seth Holehouse: 49:06

That's a great thing. So any final words, any closing thoughts for the audience?

Todd Callender: 49:11

Yeah, I think so. What it is you're doing, Seth, is what's important in all of this. It's having an open and frank discussion, you do it with such grace, because you're treating everybody around you like to be treated. You're a gracious person, and it comes across, and I appreciate that very much, because a lot of people have so many things to contribute. They may speak differently than we speak, even a different language.

Todd Callender: 49:34

But at the end of the day, it's this marketplace of ideas that must be open and must be shared and have some level of respect for somebody else's perspective and thoughts. We'll get through this if we can do that. So I really appreciate you allowing me the opportunity to come on here and talk with you and those who follow you.

Seth Holehouse: 49:52

Oh, absolutely. It's it's an honor to have you here. And I think it's just again, I'll tell people, if if you've made it this far, share this video, because I think that we have to do a better job, and I have to do a better job of saying, look, there's actually really good things happening too. I know that there's this there's so much to talk about in exposing the plans of the evil, but I think that it can also have the opposite effect of it, you know, creating this future where people feel like they're surrounded by this evil. But I think it's there there's a lot of really good reminders and a lot of good information presented in this that shows us that, you know what, they're actually failing.

Seth Holehouse: 50:24

And I think they're more scared of us than we are of them. And we have to remember that. And that we remember that, you know, fundamentally, we've got God on our side. Like, that's the that's the big, like, right there is is the Trump card. Right?

Todd Callender: 50:36

And it's not that's that's

Seth Holehouse: 50:36

not President Trump. It's the fact that, like, they are they've denied God. They believe they're more powerful than God. They believe they have control over God's creations, and they're gonna play God. Listen to, you know, Harari talk about this kind of stuff.

Seth Holehouse: 50:49

And at the end of the day, that's not true. And we know that. And so that's always in our back pocket.

Todd Callender: 50:55

Yeah, exactly right. I'm glad to hear you say it. But one of the things I discovered early on, and I'll finish with is that their master plan calls for the genetic modification of every plant and animal species on this planet for the purpose of spying God. So this is, one way or another, we don't get to escape it. This is about good versus evil, and this is God versus in the middle of it, to pick your side and hope you'll come to the God he wants.

Seth Holehouse: 51:29

Actually, can you can you say that last statement one more time?

Todd Callender: 51:32

Because it froze your time.

Seth Holehouse: 51:34

Can you froze you froze when you're talking about God versus Lucifer. Can you say that last statement one more time, I'll I'll cut it in?

Todd Callender: 51:40

Yeah. Sure. It it starts with the the plan, which was to genetically modify every plant and animal species for the purpose of spying God. And we are in this together one way or another because this is God versus Lucifer, and I hope that people will pick the side of God. Come join us, and we'll win this thing with God's help.

Seth Holehouse: 51:59

Yeah. Well, great way to end it. So, Todd, thank you so much for being here. Thank you for doing what you're doing, and I'll have to have you on for some more updates in the future.

Todd Callender: 52:07

Love to.

Seth Holehouse: 52:08

And I'd love to know, I'll get ahold of you come down if we come down to The Bahamas, because it'd be nice to have a tour guide down Come

Todd Callender: 52:14

on. I beg you to. Give me an excuse.

Seth Holehouse: 52:16

Alright. Well, thank you, Todd. Take care.

Todd Callender: 52:18

God bless you.

Seth Holehouse: 52:19

Have a wonderful day.

Todd Callender: 52:20

God bless, Seth. Thank you.

Seth Holehouse: 52:21

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