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The most uncensored conversations about censorable things coming out from the much-censored country of Singapore. Hosted by Haresh & Terence from the comedy house Ministry of Funny.
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Unknown
What's up everybody? Welcome to another episode of Yalla Bubble, your thrice weekly podcast where we talk about the hottest news with a touch of what turns old humor. Good old humor. Man, how was the weekend, man? Weekend was good. Yeah. We, Chill. We can still have time to visit it every weekend.
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Unknown
No, but, I think it's the it's the. You can get a little bit older again. You will see that this is struggling with a little bit older. You have to engage to do this. There's a lot more parenting. Yeah. Yeah, a lot more than that. I mean, I don't you experience that when growing up, but I, you know, have decided I'm going to like, you know, try to present more present and then a bit like, I mean not see a friend that right.
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Unknown
But try to be friendly with you. Experience things alongside you. To play for the weekend. It was a pretty awesome awesome way. Like the means. All the actors are children also known as like two adults in a police be. So there was a little playground outside. Then the kids when they off and all of them when the play starts and you go in and sit on the floor and surround is this area, is that the good witness?
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Unknown
And oh, it is. You have these children. It's cool because like and you, you watch your kid and they actually understanding what is happening on stage, you know, like and obviously as a child it was kids for their age. So they understand it. You understand it and you can talk about it after you watch it. Oh that's interesting experience.
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Unknown
I mean like I will say that even now that my daughter is almost six months, I am realizing I need to interact with her in a different way. Like because she, she doesn't just sleep anymore and I sleep a few weeks off and she play and there's only so much playing you can do. Then you have to read to, and, like, engage her.
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Unknown
So she deviates from the notion that you have about how a child should behave like a a no no no no, no. So, contrary to what you might think, I'm actually not like trying to stick to to stuff like that because I think that would make you go crazy. Yeah. Because so often things change. So just trying to go with the flow.
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Unknown
Of course, like, you know, that app that gives you notifications or your kid is entering a leap and all that? So sometimes, of course, I also feel like, oh, shit, am I doing enough? Am I doing too much? Am I doing too little? And those kind of thoughts play into your mind, but you just have to fight like, well, I don't think I'll ever go away.
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Unknown
Right. And that's the big thing about being a parent. Yeah. Realize how out of control. Yeah, yeah. You just. There's not much you can do. Yeah, like you plan, but expect shit to go wrong. Because I think if you get too caught up on your plan, then you get pissed off on the plan and circumstances and all that.
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Unknown
If I have no expectations, if anything, it's like if you let's say you go holiday, you can do one fun thing. Yeah. Unlock. Unlock idea. We might have a this. This is a cheap, holiday. Last time when you didn't do this. Oh, the days of a drink. And you just think you all you'll do, cafes and restaurants and bookings and all that, right?
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Unknown
Of, But, I mean, like like what you said. I would like to also experience stuff with my, with my daughter, but, I mean, relevant to what we're talking about. I also hope that I can be, like, stern when I need to be stern. I hope. I hope in a Google calendar, you know, weekly, weekly check in, weekly check in.
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Unknown
How was your how's your performance been today? Hands on deck. Yeah, at seven months. At seven months, we'll start the weekly town halls. Town halls. We'll send out the agenda beforehand and all. But, yeah, I mean, like, interesting. Like, now, I mean, she's reacting more and all that, and, like, I mean, with news like this that we are going to be talking about it just it does make you think like, oh, what would I do if I was in that situation where, my kid is subject to something undesirable?
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Unknown
Yeah, but, yeah. But before we jump into that, what is the regular spiel parents will come to? If you are new to this podcast, please like, share, subscribe if you haven't already. If you want to work with us check out Ministry of funny.com. Or you can email us at contact at Ministry of funny.com. And before we forget, today's the day before our tickets for the live show goes live.
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Unknown
Right. Show the ticket sales go live on Tuesday. Tuesday. So, we are recording is on Monday, Tuesday, 25th February, 9 p.m.. We will put the link on Reddit. Instagram, telegram. Yeah. And and, the show is on the night of Thursday, 6th March 2025. So remember 9 p.m.. You shouldn't be at work.
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Unknown
You shouldn't be doing work. And hopefully, yeah. You guys get your tickets. No excuses, no excuses. There is limited supply, so hopefully it goes fast and hopefully you guys get your tickets. But, yes. Cool. So, yeah, I mean, interesting that we were talking about dating, dating, dating, you know, there's I mean, this piece is very distressing piece of news.
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Unknown
Right. We're going to talk about what is this specific piece of news. It is the whole uproar around certain video that was shared of a bunch of Montfort Secondary students bullying another Montfort secondary student. And I think the video there was initially posted has been taking out taken off line. But of course, as with most things on the internet, there have been duplicate uploads.
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Unknown
But I think when it was uploaded, it got like one, just 1 or 2 days. It was 1.2 million views, 3400 reactions and shared, more than 10,000 times. Yeah. So it was uploaded online on February 22nd. By 23rd February, it got that many views and it was taken down. But you can find videos, online and it just shows like a group of kids speaking to each other and saying, like chopped apart, which in Malay means faster, faster and, running after this one, boy walking alone and them taking turns to, you know, trip him, kicking him while he's on the floor, and he just looks fucking terrible.
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Unknown
And, of course, the, second the school, has said that, you know, the, the, what is the school said? Let me be clear. So in response to CNA's queries, the school's vice principal, Mr. Wilson, said on Sunday that the school was aware of the incident and that it had, and I quote, taken appropriate disciplinary actions on the students involved.
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Unknown
He did not detail the disciplinary actions. We have also counsel the affected students and engaged their parents. The students have acknowledged that their behaviors were wrong and have expressed remorse. The school has zero tolerance for bullying and violence, and will continue to seek to provide a safe learning environment for all students. Apparently a police report has been lodged and they are looking into the matter.
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Unknown
So, there was official response, but then something else happened, from an affected party line. What was that? Parents? I think the mother of the boy was, she made a post on Facebook, which is the, I mean, I saw it it's almost, rallying cry, for for help for all incidents of bullying to be taken more seriously in schools.
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Unknown
And it was quite heart wrenching. Apparent as well. Yeah. But yeah. And you know it's I think but she, she did see that she hopes more can be done beyond just what the schools said as well. Yeah. As of five hours ago, police have also indicated that they are investigating the bullying incident.
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Unknown
A police police report was lodged and investigations are ongoing. So. No, it's a police. Yeah. And I mean, her post is still there, on Facebook, but, let me just read some, some certain excerpts, you know. Hi. I'm the mother of the boy who's been bullied in Montfort Secondary School. Single mum. And as a parent, I need to speak out.
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Unknown
So what? The school and Emily has replied on set has raised concerns about the school's failure to protect its students. She apologizes for, you know, bringing up memories of the more recent cases of bullying that has led to injury and, unfortunately, even death. And apparently that the video that was shared online was only the second part of the whole bullying incident, because before that, a son was apparently strangled and kicked in the stairwell.
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Unknown
And, that, I mean, her main call. Now, what you said is I don't want the authorities to downplay the severity of the incident and handle it. Insensitively. I don't want to go on diplomatically correct answers. Like, the students have acknowledged that their behaviors were wrong and have expressed remorse. I demand to know what actions have been taken.
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Unknown
I've since brought my son to court and has filed a report. I am not concerned that my son will develop depression. So that was basically the shit that went down. The official response from the schools and the response from my mum and this is, off the back of, I think, earlier in February, the education minister himself and saying, addressed Parliament about the case of bullying, and he shared some numbers about how the, the numbers of bullying cases has been kind of steady over the past few years.
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Unknown
That the Mo and all the schools take it very seriously, but also pointed out that, you know, it's important that parents allow the schools and authorities to, you know, take the due process and to, to caution against vigilantism. So that is the context. You know, as a, as a parent yourself, there is like, what, what what make you of all the things that have been unfolding?
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Unknown
It's yeah, I mean, the timing of this, and the fact that just a month ago, within a month ago, sentencing very clearly in Parliament, kind of said, like, you know, let schools handle the fighting of bullying, right? And parents shouldn't step in. And I think he said, that don't do. So let the schools and authority handle this without speculating or stepping in to complicate matters.
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Unknown
All right. So it's a real it's really sort of drawing a line and saying that parents really should not get both the schools and the authorities know what to do. But to hear from the horse's mouth or the parents about their view that, you know, what you see in these videos is not a bit of what it was like in the earlier before this video was even recorded, there was the kid was being strangled.
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Unknown
Evidence of how that happened then all day like much of the neck and all that. It kind of it makes you wonder like is it not being done right. That Are we putting too much emphasis on trying to protect the the people who, the perpetrators of this, the bullies because I think champions important.
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Unknown
So you said the, you know, the he he urged people not to like dogs, the bullies, not to condemn them for I love because there's no chance. If so, there's no chance of you'd be able to do for them. All right. But just seeing an incident like this, we're not sure if, it's a good thing that we, that we sort of just keep all the punishment and all the discipline, disciplinary actions behind closed doors.
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Unknown
It appears the public like there's no real accountability for these people.
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Unknown
I mean, yeah, it does seem okay. It's like, you know, when the cases of, you know, shooting, shootings, started getting more and more common in the US. And at a certain point, it felt like, of course, is a different country. But, I mean, sometimes the scale and intensity was, like, so shocking that around the world and everyone kind of feels it.
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Unknown
Yeah, I remember it reaching a point where it felt like, oh, it's the same, thing over and over again. Same response. I think the thoughts and prayers thing became a meme also, you know? Yeah. Just thoughts and prayers. Thoughts and thoughts and prayers. Now in Singapore, thank God it's not shootings, but it also feels like, oh, we are just hearing the same thing over and over again.
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Unknown
So it does feel like what the hell is going on? And I'm also getting a bit tired of just seeing the same old. Yeah, you know, the the students had been counseled and they have expressed remorse. What the fuck does that mean? Right. But I think the biggest indicator, which always blows my mind is what? What? Yes.
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Unknown
Okay. There are all these, you know, actions that apparently are being taken after these incidents happen. But so clearly, the students in this case and in other cases seem to think that, taking a video of these sort of things is cool. Or is there no repercussions to that? There are no consequences. And I think in this video, you can even hear some chatter of like, oh, on WhatsApp, WhatsApp, which I mean, I'm speculating, but but it feels like it's not said someone just taking a video unknowingly.
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Unknown
You know, I think they are participating with the intention, with the understanding that there is a video there. So maybe if you set up you can look at the act of bullying and see that's fucked up. You know, that shouldn't be happening. But the fact is that they seem to think that videoing it is also okay. Which then makes me come to think that the punishments are too lenient.
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Unknown
Yeah, and it's too late. And something needs to change the punishment for this? No. For bullying. It almost feels like the repercussions of videoing a bullying act where you can almost identify them as there's no repercussions. So it becomes that you just do it for fun as opposed to like, oh shit, if we do this, I mean, there's a whole point of, law, in place, right?
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Unknown
And white criminals try to go under the radar and not be detected the moment you're okay being detected. Then what the hell is the punishment? But how do you know that the in the video was a full on participant in the thing? One of you was he or she was, a whistleblower or something like that. That means they were like they were secretly.
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Unknown
Oh, to be part of group and recording this part to that story. Out of that, they they need to pass the video to the kid and then show the mother or something like that. Yeah. We who did upload a video. I don't know, I don't know, that's why I'm, I'm kind of curious how this video got off and did even did they post it online themselves?
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Unknown
And then someone else, you know, reposted it or something, you know, that's a bit, bit of a question, but yeah. Who uploaded a video? That's a good question, but I would I agree with you that the very act of recording the video in itself kind of shows you how, how brazen it is, and that you see the people in the video, the probably know that someone is recording the video feels like it.
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Unknown
Yeah, but they're still going ahead and, they're building actions, right? So there's almost no awareness or they just don't care that the actions are being recorded and can be used against them. Yeah, yeah. So then it feels like we just go back to our timeline, you know, and like, people listening, thinking, I just shut up, right.
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Unknown
You uncle's talking about all time. I'm just giving the context. I remember an old time where caning used to happen in front of the whole school. And the disciplinary muscle of someone you really don't want to fuck with, right? There was a certain fear of getting caught. Yeah, even if you do something stupid, you know. Oh, shit.
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Unknown
You know, punishment is coming. You know that. Regardless of how you spin the discipline master was very intimidating. And there was also the, like, belief that, okay, don't get caught. You know, you all do stupid things, don't get caught. But it's stemmed from the fear of punishment. And now I think he has days that whole gentle kind of understand, you know, empathize.
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Unknown
And also sometimes you gotta just be like, fuck all that shit there needs to be punishment. Yeah. But I don't think that is the case now. We don't know. Didn't also know what disciplinary actions the necessary. Yeah. I don't even 100%. I'm not 100, 100% sure if there's no more caning. Right. I saw I saw some article.
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Unknown
Well, let me find it. This is it. Caning is still a lot with the last resort. Yeah, and caning, like how it was during our time. I don't think girls, girls can be kena. I think young girls also. Okay, I believe so is it. But now, girls, I mean, at least let me find it. Article. It said that caning is not, applicable to girls.
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Unknown
Yeah. At that time. Yeah. I think the difference between now and then was that back then being caned was almost half of the quota. Right. Like, I remember being caned for even the smallest infractions, like forgetting to bring some homework. Or something like that or even like the silliest things like playing games. There's something in it that was a chance of getting kind of on a smaller scale of the smaller cane and the, the feather duster or something, a feather that's, that's pretty thick gradient was very honestly not not I mean, okay, still it's still, stings.
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Unknown
You know, life's carrying on. Yeah. But, we don't want a corporal punishment, right? Yeah. Of if you came in front of the school, that was even back during my time, it was quite rare. Maybe I witnessed it a handful of times. Three times, four times a week. But, yeah, if it still happens at the same frequency in schools today, I'll be quite surprised.
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Unknown
But we know for a fact that there's a lot less of that. That's the caning for small infractions that goes on in schools. That culture of fear of repercussions, probably is not as strong today as it was back then. Yeah. So, so I mean, just the one thing I would find 9th January 2024, there was a question in Parliament to ask the Minister of Education for in each of the past five years how many boy pupils have been method corporal punishment, which is caning in school with caning on the palms of their hands or their buttocks over clothing under regulation 88 of the Education Regulations, and whether there is a need to retain
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Unknown
such punishment. So the response the number of male students caning schools have remained stable. No number in schools, caning is carried out as an educative and disciplinary measure for serious offenses committed by male students when other corrective actions have been exhausted. So it feels like it still happens. But maybe it is last, last resort. Yeah. And I can imagine again, like, during our time, if you kena cane or some sort of physical beating in school, that that's it.
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Unknown
Like you had to get over your shame and all. But now I can imagine your parents will get involved and a lot of parents will get involved. Yeah. So then it becomes a thing like, okay, this is there if we need to enforce it. But the onslaught of parental stuff, we need to do it. Let's just not use it.
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Unknown
Yeah. And then slowly over time, it gets, it becomes like a vestige of the past, and feels like that's a problem. Yeah. Oh, what's the problem like that? The fact that punishments are not as frequent this know as in, like, punishments. Almost not a big deal anymore. And this is again speculating as an uncle on the outside, the if this is happening more often feels like a possible reason.
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Unknown
It could be like other students even scared of the punishment. But I mean there's little chat online that people are saying why, why do we even caring so much to work with the police, you know, with traumatized adults. Police bullies should be punished. They shouldn't be, shamed for their actions. And what they do causes a lot more harm to the person who gets bullied.
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Unknown
A long term, mental or mental trauma. Than whatever. The physical caning that they might even you might even get that right. Why do we care so much about protecting police stuff? Because I think a few weeks ago in Parliament, they even talked about is there a way to take down these, videos so that, you know, the kids don't grow up, harassed or dogs or anything like that.
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Unknown
That. Right. He also talks about, wanting to rehabilitate these bullies as all that are we. And a lot of people are saying like this is woke behavior in Singapore where we care about the feelings of the police as opposed to worrying about the long term effects. Treating, treating or almost treating both of them as victims.
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Unknown
Yeah. Which is a bit strange I would say. What do you, what do you think about. I mean I still think they shouldn't, we shouldn't dox the bullies. And not to say we care about your feelings at all. I just don't think there's a net positive to that. What I do think is necessary is like some sort of program, right?
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Unknown
I mean, we are caught bullying. You get sent to these, like, anti-bullying school for, like, one month or two months or, you know, like the TV show in the US. Beyond scared straight. Have you heard it? Where do you bring these juvenile delinquents to prisons to meet prisoners and, like, beat and let them understand what it's like to be in prison.
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Unknown
And it just like it's meant to be, like, eat this. Don't. Don't fuck it up, okay? Because you want to end up like me. Some sort of corrective action needs to be taken. But I don't think doxing is going to help. Anything you talk about that voice won't kind of be something areola. I don't even know what it is, things like that any more about that, I think I think, but but I mean, so you're saying they should be some sort of much more stricter punishment.
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Unknown
So it's also a student version of incarceration where you society in some way for extended periods. Yeah, a few weeks ago. Yeah, yeah. And then I mean, not caning, they're not, but really getting them to reflect on the what they've done, which is something very like uncomfortable or painful in a different way and all physical pain.
00:22:35:05 - 00:22:59:12
Unknown
So whatever I mean, this was something that did come to my mind, but what about something more akin to like corrective work order? You know, how the. Yeah, when they caught or, you know, people smoking through a cigaret butts around, sometimes they're made to do corrective other, which is, to physically go to a location and where they're seeing that shameless, and then forced to pick up trash and everything.
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Unknown
What if you or something like that, where, where they had to, like, go and do some physical labor as part of, the exchange because, well, my my thought is that, I mean, we, we worry about not seeing them at all, but I also see the point that, bullying people have to deal with a lot more physical trauma.
00:23:17:12 - 00:23:43:09
Unknown
Compared to what, bully. The, the bully has to go through. So I think getting them out of the, in public, where it's clear that they did something wrong, but you don't exactly see what they did wrong, and they have to. So give them a vest as best. So the sentences correct about, but, you know, it doesn't really box them for what they did by just shows that maybe they, they just they will not be like, right.
00:23:44:07 - 00:24:06:05
Unknown
Right. I, this I, I'm just wondering when a doc seeing this really, as an especially because the police are really not. Do we really need to protect them from doxing? Because it's clear that they don't they don't care about the person. Yeah. For the rest of his life, the videos on him are recorded. Yeah, yeah.
00:24:06:07 - 00:24:26:05
Unknown
So. So, I mean, like, I mean, these videos, the bullies themselves, you can kind of identify some of them, but I assume. Right? But I don't know whether doxing is still the best solution to me is that you make the punishment a lot more strict, a lot more harsh, and you don't need the doxing, because at the same time, like these kids, the.
00:24:26:05 - 00:24:55:08
Unknown
So kids. Right. And doxing, opening them up to the internet. Right. Can be fucked up in many ways. And I think that's almost ceding the punishment to the internet, which I think is harder to control. The. Yeah. This way. Yeah. And I mean like, I mean, we all know people who are bullies who have turned out as like, not bullies, hopefully.
00:24:55:10 - 00:25:14:09
Unknown
I mean, that's why I mean, hopefully that hopefully. Yeah. That spouses that. Yeah. No. That. Right. Yeah. No, I mean, like if we are willing to give adults a second chance at, you know, like coming out of, prison and having a second life, I think for kids, all the more reason that, yeah, their actions, it shouldn't take them to life for for life.
00:25:14:13 - 00:25:33:16
Unknown
But the way to balance it out is that the punishment must be damn harsh. And I think it's reaching a point in time where the punishment for bullying must be damn harsh. And that's why I'm saying, yeah, take them out of school. I don't know, a suspension, I think. I think you round them all up anytime. It's like, you know, like shoplifting is a very clear thing.
00:25:33:17 - 00:25:56:17
Unknown
If you shoplift, you are deemed a shoplifter. So now, I don't know. It's difficult to put some criteria where if you do this, you are considered a bully and bullies get A, B and C. Yeah. And make it super harsh because this thing continues to happen. And now we are having people kind of, like almost end their life, based on alleged bullying.
00:25:56:19 - 00:26:17:24
Unknown
It wasn't. Yeah, that was right. You go yeah. Yeah. And and that's the only one is reported. I don't know how many unreported. So to me, I don't think doxing is necessary, but you make the punishment damn harsh. So what if they tell you that everything is suggesting? Is there? It is not that this is the weakest part of this school, that the Institute did for these boys?
00:26:18:01 - 00:26:36:17
Unknown
Yeah, maybe not, but it just it's just it's not public. Why not? Why not make it public? Why not go? Why then? I mean, they just want it to become a thing. When people start, like, trying to find this group of people who. No, no, you don't. You don't need to say that. Just. Just be more clear. What exactly is the punishment?
00:26:36:22 - 00:26:53:14
Unknown
What is this? Counseling. Well, what the hell is counsel? If I punch you in the face, turns and someone says, okay, I come to you and I say, I'm attorneys. I've been counsel, and I express a lot of remorse. How you feel? I mean, what what exactly? Yeah. And what the hell does counseling mean? It could be someone just talking to you and you saying,
00:26:53:18 - 00:27:24:08
Unknown
I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. Yeah. No. If there's punishment, be more transparent about what it is because it provides closure to the to the people who are affected. Also, the argument is that. But if you take them out of that immediate environment. You're also socially isolating them. Possibly you could be making them even more and be more anti-social, more, you know, more likely to do things right.
00:27:25:06 - 00:27:52:00
Unknown
Other people around them, is isn't necessarily a good thing like you like, like, for example, in the case of a Singaporean himself where the classes enjoyed. Yeah. After that, you continue keeping him isolated from the rest of society, or you, like, try to, you know, try to mend his relations with his family, the people who are already great him back to, integrate him back into society.
00:27:53:12 - 00:28:13:11
Unknown
Which ones are better actually to like, really isolate them and, you know, do this brainwashing thing and then all that. There's also they try to integrate very well. Well why are they mutually exclusive. I'm not saying take them into like bullying school for the rest of private school. No, no I swear for a period of time.
00:28:13:13 - 00:28:29:21
Unknown
So you come back, so you go to like this, I don't know, this facility with all the other bullies and like that. Is that all the counseling that you need? But then come back and then let them reintegrate, and then they will have a record that they went to school. I mean, it doesn't need to be like a criminal record.
00:28:30:19 - 00:28:48:09
Unknown
But then. Yeah. So this is there's a stain on there, but I think the punishment basically needs to be something or at the level where there will be consequences. So they will be will remain. And yeah, because you think about like what you pointed out as a victim, that thing will stay with you for life. No. And for a bully.
00:28:48:09 - 00:29:06:17
Unknown
Yes. You have something that stays with you for life as well. And if you think about the psyche of the Singaporean parent, stereotypically, they would not want any, any tainted, marks on their kids resumé. Right. And if that is the the stick, you know that. Oh, your your boy or girl bully someone else, they will have this.
00:29:06:23 - 00:29:32:01
Unknown
They will stick with them. I think it will change behavior. But but unfortunately, like I think a lot of these kids were bullies. I think the parents unfortunately, probably are not representing their lives through the. The parent actually might not even know that I'm just coming. Yeah. So understanding a lot of bullying comes from the client.
00:29:32:03 - 00:29:51:22
Unknown
Like nobody you know. So I'm getting invited. That's so that's why I'm like okay. Like I mean again where you're coming from in terms of like the bullying school and all that, but just whether it should be, you know, something so harsh as opposed to let's say, you know, you are suspended or you go for detention for three months or two months.
00:29:53:03 - 00:30:16:01
Unknown
But, but then what you see in a classroom on your phone or, you know, socially, socially isolated, scribbling, you know, pen and paper, right? Right, right. Whoever not right. Would that would, that would get you think that would forget the parents of the maybe maybe because I guess because right now there's no visibility on the punishment at all.
00:30:16:14 - 00:30:34:19
Unknown
And I think that is what makes people unsettled. Like, what do you mean? They express remorse? It's almost a bit condescending, like, Okay. My son, who just got bullied, express anything that would, you know, release the, the stress or the trauma. And maybe, you know, we can take a page from the the, the driver's license system.
00:30:35:00 - 00:30:57:00
Unknown
You bully, you get, like, ten bullying points every year that you don't bully. You might as well point the, then maybe, like, you got good behavior, then your record is clear a lot, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Like every review, you go punch anyone, you know, punch you slap. Sorry. One point, but you go out, you know, punch anyone and say, okay, good.
00:30:57:00 - 00:31:17:20
Unknown
And so you can work towards having a clean slate. But but I mean, all this is, ya I mean, you, I guess, but coming from a camp where we feel the punishment is, at least right now it's to somewhere, we assume that it's too soft. Lower. Yeah, yeah, but what about the other campuses?
00:31:17:22 - 00:31:35:09
Unknown
I, I also grew up being bullied. Look at me today. You know, I'm doing a good job at the kid. My family. And I'm not bully. I mean, in fact, going make you stronger. Do you see some comments? What do you think of I don't know. Well, I hear things like that. Right?
00:31:35:09 - 00:31:52:01
Unknown
Yeah. You might be a positive example, but I think for everyone who turned out okay, probably people who didn't and who have had that thing stick with them for the rest of their lives and affect them in some way. So maybe last time I used to think like a, you know, I want to not. Okay, then just suck it out.
00:31:52:01 - 00:32:15:23
Unknown
But I don't think that anymore. You, Yeah, I think this is different year and all this. Yeah. Just physical harassment. Let me see in this video. Yeah. There's also online bullying also that whole different dimension. So I think kids these days we see that, you know, a lot of people say they saw strawberries whatever. But they also have a lot more to do with them.
00:32:16:01 - 00:32:36:09
Unknown
Right? You know, both physically, mentally, emotionally as well. There's a lot more dangers that look, you know, previously unseen corners of the internet in the world and, and, they're trying to figure themselves out. They're just trying to they're trying to find a reasonable. At the same time, they have to be wary of all these dangers.
00:32:36:11 - 00:32:55:22
Unknown
It's just too much role, I think, a teenage mind to handle. Is difficult, like, difficult to, to like, you expect kids these days to just be able to pick themselves up off the floor? You know, they, I think I look back at my childhood and just life was just lost. Yeah, yeah. No, there's so much to do.
00:32:55:22 - 00:33:14:18
Unknown
So much different things to deal with in terms of, like, wanting to be fit in and to be cool and to not feel like, you know. Yeah. Everyone else's. You got a tick tock influence, as a classmate know, it was probably making more money than your parents. It's, And, yeah, I've got a lot to deal with, and I don't think it's fair to expect them to be able to experience.
00:33:15:06 - 00:33:39:06
Unknown
Yeah. You can't use the benchmarks that we grew up with as a benchmark now, because last time, if you get bullied in the stable of your school and you leave your school, you can still people don't need to know that you got bullied, right? But now it's just there for the rest of your life. So so that's where it's like, well, it's, it's it's, sad and scary and I think, yeah, the punishment needs to just be something that.
00:33:39:11 - 00:34:00:23
Unknown
Okay, for every time you bully someone one year x rightness. I'll say. Yeah. Extra monthly for you. Yeah, but it might be too far removed for secondary school. Is it? Okay? You give me an armada. Give me an armada? No. Then you imagine, like, as a token, it comes. You know, they always want, like in the US, they bring you to presents, to look, to listen to people who are incarcerated.
00:34:00:23 - 00:34:17:08
Unknown
Right. But secondary school. Maybe you got this one guy who's knows what ended up seven years ago cause you bully that much, then you come and give a talk with that bro. Just don't bully. You know how long I was in there? There's not 20, 29 to 26. My whole life went by. Don't bully. And that's a message.
00:34:17:10 - 00:34:37:07
Unknown
So then you you you you flip it a you make it constructive, you know, you you, an army like that is I mean, hopefully now also, it is still as disciplined as, as as it used to be, but there needs to be something where even the kids themselves feel like shit. I really don't want this to happen to me.
00:34:37:09 - 00:34:57:06
Unknown
So, I mean, what you're saying, between you and I, you, all of your perspective sounds more, you you want more punishment, right? Yeah. I mean, I think we still pale in comparison to what we were asking for on, like, what do you say? Should just wipe the kids off. I really, like, bring back King. But the king is there.
00:34:57:08 - 00:35:18:02
Unknown
Yeah, the king seven. But by saying, I guess the frequency of usage of the king needs to be, closer to what it was. Right. What do you think of what is the impulse to go back towards that kind of. I think that is just the case of using benchmarks that work for our generation now. And I don't think you know what, because I think a become a badge of honor.
00:35:18:04 - 00:35:37:12
Unknown
I just, you know, Queen. Hey, you know, I can I can you can see how many strokes I have. Everything that we should and go can see that my face never. Yeah. That's way and like, you know, they make a vlog series out of recovering from the kid. No, we seen that a lot of people in vlog series of the present.
00:35:37:14 - 00:35:55:16
Unknown
Yeah. No, I think you cannot. I think that is using the old model on the new world. And it becomes a fucking badge of honor and all. And it's very frustrating for, for us when we see people we would see remorseful for things we've done. Yeah. Videos of, you know, my experience in prison. Yeah. And then somehow they spin it.
00:35:55:18 - 00:36:14:22
Unknown
You know, a certain way to make them look like the victim. Yeah, yeah. Woke culture was the one that cancel me. Yeah, yeah. So, so I think even when deciding the punishments. Right. You need to understand like what is valuable to kids these days. Last time, why would you see caning. Would. There was a shame. Public shame. Right.
00:36:15:09 - 00:36:40:06
Unknown
And it was just there. You can't recall videos of it. Yeah. Just everyone in school. And so. And there's no way to spin the story yourself. You were the guy platform. Yeah. You were the guy who got kid, you know, and it generally had a universally negative sentiment narrative. You get killed, right? Well, you go to the US, you make a video, you probably get some, sympathy votes and then you upload your punishment.
00:36:40:06 - 00:37:01:02
Unknown
And so. So. Yeah. Yeah. Can I go on, yeah. I think there needs to be a whole, deep thinking into what does punishment for young kids in 2025 look like. And I think anybody with something that we might not be able to understand also. Yeah, yeah. Let me no, no social media. You know something I don't know how you're going to, but I think the punishment needs to be harsher.
00:37:01:04 - 00:37:19:05
Unknown
No social media. No. Yeah. And harsh not to the people who are setting the punishment, but to the people who are receiving the punishment. Because I think there will be two different things. Yeah. So just harsh. I mean, of course I see now like, like, with my own child, I hope I can be the one to be stern and not just be, like, wrapped around her finger.
00:37:19:13 - 00:37:33:00
Unknown
I hope that when there needs to be some punishment meted out that we will be able to to instill some sort of discipline, I hope not to give up. What in.
00:37:33:02 - 00:37:55:22
Unknown
The one with the leather hand gripper, to let the hair and grips with. So that. No, no, I don't think I want to just beat the beat like that. But there's a way to mat out punishment we don't have physically, physical beating. Right? We've talked about it before. The the ingenious ways that somebody just last night, physically putting any hands on.
00:37:55:24 - 00:38:33:17
Unknown
Yeah. Genius. Genius. Yeah. So they cannot stop men. Because the old thing about this is, like the Singapore, the US, Singapore equivalent of thoughts and prayers mean they have been counsel and they express remorse. What the fuck does that mean, Frustrating. But, yeah, you know, I think both those who believes, there's another group of people that want to clean up the act and make things generally clean up everyone, but think, you know, granted, to do that, like, you know, they need a grant to help them do that.
00:38:33:19 - 00:38:55:12
Unknown
And what is and, it is I mean, like the group of people who, hypothesize do need the grants and the coffee shop operators, but the people who came up with the recommendation that there be grants to these coffee shop operators, people from a task force, right, that has I didn't even know existed. But I can't imagine it being a badge of honor.
00:38:55:12 - 00:39:28:06
Unknown
To be part of it is the public toilets task force. Yeah. So, I think it is, chaired by co-chaired by, William King and, Public Hygiene Council Chairman Andrew Keng. So, yeah, so I think there has been a lot of chatter about the cleanliness of coffee shop toilets in the past few months. Right. And yeah, as of February 21st, King said that the task force has submitted its recommendations to the Minister for sustainability and the environment.
00:39:28:06 - 00:40:01:10
Unknown
Grease food. And essentially ya four pillars, of, issues, to target, which is design and infrastructure cleaning and maintenance with adoption of technology monitoring by all stakeholders, audit and enforcement engagement and outreach. So, Terrance, what made you want to talk about this PDF and your recommendations? I think it's interesting because a lot of the online chatter is that why do these private coffee shop owners mean the grant just to keep the toilets clean?
00:40:01:19 - 00:40:21:16
Unknown
All the money that they're making from, you know, ownership of the place and collecting rent in everything. Should be allocated towards keeping clean. It's not like it's not like, it's not that they don't have the funds to do it. There should be something in your budget for it. So why should they be given extra grants to do that.
00:40:22:24 - 00:40:48:04
Unknown
As compared to like, you know like a restaurant or something, which has to I mean they, they have to spend money to keep the toilets clean so that people will come know. Why is it that coffee shops don't seem to want to spend the money to keep those funds that, so that's that's why, the act of giving a grant to people to renovate and clean the toilets just feels like, shouldn't that be part of what they do in the first place, anyway?
00:40:49:08 - 00:41:17:01
Unknown
And, what do you think about it? It's a it's a fair point. Jackson himself, head of the World Toilet Organization, founder of the Restroom Association in Singapore. Yeah. So this is, What that's one of his is called. I'm sorry. Right, that we should hold, coffee shop owners accountable for the cleanliness of the the toilets, because you can't see its footfall because compared to, a mall, mall's toilets are much cleaner than conventional toilets.
00:41:18:04 - 00:41:40:16
Unknown
Centers that are run by the government, you know, government agencies, also generally kept clean and a lot of coffee shop toilets. So there's no reason other than just, to him, like there was no reason other than just, profit and profit margins, everything that, that these coffee shop owners are not cleaning the toilets. Is a real a real stain on Singapore.
00:41:41:21 - 00:42:18:09
Unknown
Really. Or and business of the toilets in this coffee shops are in this. Yeah. The the grunting is a bit Orla I mean I can kind of imagine why they are taking this green approach because the coffee shops are probably like no, no we're not going to do we have limited you know, rental going up and all this and I mean, the coffee shop, I mean, I'm guessing there's a whole spectrum of the ownership and the tenancy, you know, but I would assume that the people who run the coffee shop, they might not necessarily own the coffee shop, right?
00:42:18:09 - 00:42:43:11
Unknown
They might be leasing it from the landlord. Right. So, because when we were talking about a grant and I was thinking about actually, you know, even there's, there's grants for filmmakers, you know, there's grants for this. What is the big deal about this grant? But I think for those sort of grants, like, let's say if you're making you want the grant because it helps you do what your livelihood is all about, which is to make films.
00:42:43:13 - 00:43:02:07
Unknown
In this case, I don't think it's, part of the, a coffee shops, focus to have clean toilets for them. It is a grant to improve the, the seats or and all that. Then I would think they. Well, it would make sense because that's maybe really what they're trying to do. Improve the food standards. The toilet thing.
00:43:02:09 - 00:43:20:08
Unknown
I think it's probably because all the coffee shops allowed for it. Why, why, why should we do this? We're not going to do it. I've got no budget for it. It's not a revenue generating. Yeah. Oh yeah. Correct. I mean, not what I mean the, the customers. Yeah. 12 bucks on seats on the movie for the studio. Yeah.
00:43:20:08 - 00:43:36:09
Unknown
Because it will grants for SMEs and all. You know like why subsidize the, the salary of your employees who are going for training. Because the goal is once that is done, you can increase the revenue of the business. But in this case, the toilet, unless there's an argument to be made that if your toilet is cleaner, you can increase revenue.
00:43:36:11 - 00:43:59:15
Unknown
I think that's the argument, right? Because I think there was a study the SMU came up with, just late last year between December, where they're saying close to one and two people are willing to pay for public toilets. Cleanliness is guaranteed. So they, like, they said I think about 40% were willing to even fork out $0.50 to $1 if it was a really clean toilet.
00:43:59:15 - 00:44:23:07
Unknown
Spotless experience. Well, we wanted like 82% open to being 10 to $0.30. So you could argue that there is a revenue generating module for that. Maybe. Yeah. Having to handle this as a, as a revenue stream. It's not exactly it's not something that a lot of people aspire to do that. Right. Yeah. But I do worry about the toilet.
00:44:23:09 - 00:44:45:01
Unknown
Yeah. I mean honestly there's a company that wants to take it on themselves to clean and run all the toilets in the coffeeshops of Singapore. Right. I think that could be a business deal. But going back to the thing about the grant, I mean, one thing they did say was that apparently when coffee shops are built and all, the toilet is, is always like an afterthought.
00:44:45:14 - 00:45:09:09
Unknown
And that's why, you know, if they do want to rework the toilet, clean it, maybe even change the structure, it would require some capital. And, I mean, part of the recommendation is to have a soon to be developed happy toilet certification. Yeah. I don't know why they couldn't think of something better. But, happy toilet certification is something that would be like an accredited standard of toilet.
00:45:10:04 - 00:45:32:06
Unknown
Yeah. Run by the Restroom Association of Singapore. The chairman Jackson. I'm. Yeah. Yeah. But but so then do you think the grant would you are you up for the grant or do you think it's like it wasn't used taxpayers money for this? Maybe there is the. There needs to be something there. Jones.
00:45:32:07 - 00:45:52:09
Unknown
Action from the people who can make the biggest difference. Right? I think when you watch that the Jackson podcast that we did, one of the most, one of the highlights was with the is he said that, we were being guests for the thinking that the users are the ones responsible for the, the the coffee shop, is that right?
00:45:52:13 - 00:46:19:07
Unknown
Yeah. Of course. But, you know, that kind of thing where you, we call up a group and and publicly shamed. And sometimes it has the reverse effect, but maybe in some sense to start changing culture, you just need one, one initial push. Please get rid of it. Please make them easier to please make them use technology to make it like in general there's a follow up after like one two years of use that.
00:46:19:07 - 00:46:44:01
Unknown
Right. Maybe that's what these coffee shop owners be and just understanding that a lot of them also you know, they're more worried about their profit margins and everything that, that actually can visit the toilets. Right. Maybe they need this initial cushion. And if anything it's, it's a use of taxpayers money that will immediately benefit the taxpayers.
00:46:44:03 - 00:47:06:24
Unknown
Right. Yeah. So it might be a necessary evil for those. But then we don't want to double standards because when there was that tray return thing. Right. Instead of having something where we will give you a small grant for your next meal of $0.20 each time you return a three, the approach was more, yeah, punitive. You don't do it.
00:47:06:24 - 00:47:28:13
Unknown
We fine you. So why not do the same approach here? This is interesting question also because but, I'm sure there are, there are certain considerations as well. Right. Toilets, unfortunately they're not all standardized or that you know, so it's not as easy to say like, you know, someone a method of cleaning that applies.
00:47:28:13 - 00:47:51:04
Unknown
But one toilet is as easy to implement another toilet as such. But in the rating of hawkers is Abcde. Every hawker is different, every cuisine is different. But there was some way of standardizing and I think that probably some fines or, or some negative consequence of that. Yeah, maybe, maybe they need something data that this have because I'm not sure what the exact, designation will be like.
00:47:51:04 - 00:48:10:21
Unknown
You get credit on a scale or something. Maybe that's, a way to get the public to to, apply pressure. Like, if you have, if your certification is, like, very bad for something. And then if people know that your toilet is disgusting. Also makes people question the cleanliness of all the food that they're consuming in your place as well.
00:48:11:00 - 00:48:40:20
Unknown
Right. Yeah. Maybe that's a way to, to be punitive without actually going around. All I'm saying will find anyone who doesn't think about it. Yeah. And I mean, we we don't know the exact details about the grant because while the report is out, is 25 pages, is available online. There's not much mention about the intricacies of the grant because, for example, maybe the grant is okay for these first two years, we are going to be giving out a grant to any coffee shop that is willing to be the first of this batch of people who want to upgrade.
00:48:41:05 - 00:49:01:18
Unknown
If you don't didn't in this next year, there will be fines and you will have to foot the cost of renovation and deep cleaning. But this grant is there for people who want to be the early adopters, which in that case might make sense, might need to adopt a standardized. Yeah, there's some physical requirements. Toilet. Yeah.
00:49:01:21 - 00:49:21:24
Unknown
Correct. Correct. Yeah. And I'm guessing also these coffee shops and maybe there's a, there's a core of operating or like certain requirements that are in black and white that okay, in order to function as a coffee shop you just need to do A, B, C and D. And clean dollars was never part of it. So if they want to change it in the middle of a tenancy agreement or something, it might be hot.
00:49:22:03 - 00:49:49:06
Unknown
So to ease the pain, maybe just saying you just do a granola, do do a grant to kickstart like what you said. And then after that, it's self-sustaining can be done. I mean, you look at the example in China. I remember when I went to the seminar, one of the first things that blew my mind when I landed was I went to the, the toilet at the airport and they had one of those, you know, the toilet seats had toilet seat covers like, covers.
00:49:49:08 - 00:50:04:11
Unknown
But the beauty of it is that it's not that you just pull the paper from, from the, wall, and then you just lean over to see that they have this, almost like a conveyor belt kind of thing where you press a button and then it sort of like, pulls away the last piece of the,
00:50:05:05 - 00:50:28:13
Unknown
Toilet seat cover. And that new policy cover rules out in front of you. Right. So it's almost like, yeah, you have to touch this. You know, it was always a fresh piece of, a policy. Yeah. But that's sitting right. You know, when I went to a lot of toilets in, in China. So, the infrastructure was all that, like the sinks or the the urinal so that the toilet, or the seats with the.
00:50:28:15 - 00:50:52:20
Unknown
And generally everything was clean, that be like heat sinks, you know, heat sinks or or big groups of people. But then they made that just one so expensive. So the theory is all correct, infrastructure all correct. But then the one thing, the one crucial thing that that makes a difference between you spreading, being a super spreader, you know, just going by being that sort of dispenser that everyone should use when they're washing their hands.
00:50:55:03 - 00:51:12:10
Unknown
So that's where I realized, like, you know, you can, you know, spend a lot of money building the infrastructure and all. But it can take a generation or two for those habits to catch up. And maybe in some sense, that's what this grant to me that the encouraging what you say early adopters.
00:51:13:08 - 00:51:37:03
Unknown
Please try and meet some certain standards of cleanliness please, change the infrastructure in your place to make it easier to clean and then hopefully bit by bit this is I mean this is all the generation that is on the the bad habits now. Yeah. Become a bit more a bit more conscientious about the usage and not do like I mean it's like some way the tray return.
00:51:37:03 - 00:51:59:10
Unknown
Right. I think it's almost the when that first thing to finding everybody's but in. No, I mean I do think it had some positive impact. Right. You see less trees just being left and it's part of conditioning. So maybe this is a conditioning of a different kind of correct, conditioning of a different guy, which, I mean, I mean, kudos to this PDF.
00:52:00:14 - 00:52:21:09
Unknown
Yeah. That's why I'm not I'm not like, fully opposed. Yeah. At the end of the day benefit. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Correct. Correct. Other things that they could be spending money on that I'm sure like a grant to a filmmaker, there might be some people who say, you can just make a know Singapore movie Singapore, who, who can, example.
00:52:22:06 - 00:52:43:08
Unknown
Sure. But this one. Yeah. Like what you said it is for the public. So I mean, hopefully, hopefully that, that would be quite, quite cool statement. Yeah. I mean, he must be involved in this whole thing, right. But the happy dollar thing feels I could come up with a better thing, but there was a set of, let's say Jackson.
00:52:43:09 - 00:53:04:16
Unknown
Yeah. Great. Great. He brought it. You know the name. You are happy to go to a set on it. You also have it on a set toilet. Yeah. I think what's striking about him is he almost tries his best to associate, but a very few with the pilots. Yeah, and World Toilet Organization. Yeah. Something positive. Something. You know, more grand than what?
00:53:04:16 - 00:53:27:11
Unknown
What it actually is. Yeah, I there's a happy toilet here that, is quite fascinating, people. Happy toilet, happy toilet. So, I mean, in future, hopefully, every toilet we visit at a coffee shop is a happy toilet. Not a sad toilet, not a happy times. Yeah, correct. But the. I mean, if it's a happy toilet, there's a higher chance.
00:53:27:11 - 00:54:13:03
Unknown
Then there might be some happy endings happening inside of that, right? Set toilet. Only sad endings left. But, But. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. So what is one thing, once you comment, one should comment. Let me put it up. You have yours. I think it's just of, it's, recent, episode, where we, we are talking about, the the pregnant or girl was forced to stand due to, any, any, rules that, but the the person who complained about his pregnant wife, having basically president.
00:54:13:05 - 00:54:37:13
Unknown
Yeah. And he's also, of course so on Reddit, Z in 1999, if he was the one that was he personally had been installed, you can think of God's love you as a be an expendable, subsidized rent hawker center. And if this guy was actually sponsored, he would have just, shut up in some time, cause you got the benefits of having all this already.
00:54:37:15 - 00:54:58:08
Unknown
You don't want to comply to have the rules, just, you know, seriously exploit the the rules, really, but still want to. Okay, so this was, a comment that actually you feel a lot and, I thought a lot of it under, Singapore. Interesting that we, you know, what our listeners here is, is also feeling this way.
00:54:59:12 - 00:55:23:15
Unknown
Yeah. I mean my one short comment is a comment on the 621 where we talked about the budget. I was on Reddit and it was from Miss Airplane. I love the story of the dog traveling in style. I think that was a Dalmatian story. And a Dalmatian traveling in first class. I would love that, too, but I guess I need a dog that, first, dog first.
00:55:23:15 - 00:55:36:24
Unknown
And loads of money. I'm walking in the Middle East. I do realize that my Muslim friends here have, Yeah, keep dogs as pets. And yes, Middle Eastern airlines such as Qatar Airways do allow service dogs as well. Keep up the great work guys! I so enjoy listening to you guys. You guys keep me updated on what's happening at home.
00:55:36:24 - 00:55:56:07
Unknown
Thank you. So yeah, a listener from the Middle East, don't know where in the Middle East do you see a lot of, people dogs in Saudi Arabia? No. Yeah, yeah. No, not even one. I don't recall. But I also know in the Middle East, I mean, it's not a monolith, right? There's a lot of different,
00:55:57:05 - 00:56:19:08
Unknown
Like, beliefs and, perspectives on even how how much a role religion plays in society. Saudi Arabia, I think is quite, quite, extreme. But yeah, Middle East, who knows, maybe it is Dubai, I don't know, but we have, to all those listening from the Middle East, thanks for thanks for listening, man.
00:56:19:10 - 00:56:44:00
Unknown
You see, so, I just said hello, brother. So I say the letter. Yeah. Dude, when I was in Saudi, like, I had no bandwidth to even learn, like, the local greeting and all that. Okay. Yeah. Hello? Yes. This one way. This way. That was it. Yeah. It's like tourist, transient tourist. As a as a parent.
00:56:44:02 - 00:57:01:09
Unknown
No, no, I was I was figuring out how to take care of my child parents to see now, do you think I did loss? I see you again. You think we did? We did a lot of sightseeing. No, man. I just thought I won Ronaldo game. And after that was just. Yeah. Nothing else. But, But. Yeah.
00:57:01:09 - 00:57:28:05
Unknown
And what about your one shock thing, man? Yeah, my one trip thing, actually, I did want to say talk about the children's. The good thing that I saw, I want you to. So it's actually called white and it's actually and playing at the ground and Goodman and it's, yeah, it's, it's a production, you know, but Catherine Wheels company, which was like I mean they series in Singapore.
00:57:28:19 - 00:57:48:16
Unknown
And what's cool about it is that if you go there, your kid, I mean, you get the kids and you want to watch the thing with the kids, there's also like, you know, maybe within half an hour before the show. So you get all this system, you know, they run around it without slides, and then after that they sit down and watch this, the youth, the production that runs for 45 minutes.
00:57:49:11 - 00:58:08:12
Unknown
Just nice form for most kids. Those kids get it. I don't think they can do more than like 45 minutes. I think all of that. So that is a good experience. Fun experience. And it's still running I believe. So yeah. So I think it's running for a few months I hope I think and what's it called again.
00:58:08:16 - 00:58:33:17
Unknown
White. White nice. What was it about. Don't spoil it for I mean, essentially it's about two people who live, in this place that everything is white. Oh. Like where? What kind of like I've been thinking a not so on the north side, because don't think go forward in production. I'm 100% right. I think it's not 26.
00:58:33:17 - 00:58:56:21
Unknown
Right. Hour and 28. Right. Nothing. Come on. This kids, it's the I mean, the Happy Meal. Get them started. Young. Happy meal. Happy. That's the premise of the Happy Meal at McDonald's. McDonald's? Yeah. Happy meal. Yeah. Until this moment. Sure thing. My one sure thing was, because the Grammys recently, completed.
00:58:57:00 - 00:59:16:21
Unknown
And, Do you know who Benson. Boonies. He's the guy who sang, beautiful things. You know, if you hear it, you would it probably sound familiar, because it was one of those songs that went viral on TikTok. You hear, you might you might recognize it, but, I mean, that song is damn nice. And it was one of the, the breakout hits of 2024.
00:59:17:02 - 00:59:38:24
Unknown
So the video was his performance at the Grammys. And it's quite interesting because I think he's quite I think he appeared on American Idol, maybe 2019. And then halfway through the competition, he withdrew to pursue music on his own. And now he's like, doing super well. So the way he performed is, was he was seated at one of the tables and then the spotlight shone on him and he pulled out the mic and started singing.
00:59:39:04 - 01:00:00:19
Unknown
But it's funny, the other guests at the table almost didn't. What kind of surprise that he started singing? So then he gets up, walks around. J-Lo happened to be at his table and he's wearing a tuxedo. Then he goes round and these two female celebrities, Heidi Klum and Nikki Glaser. Pulled off his, tux to reveal, like, one of those 70s rock n roll type outfits.
01:00:00:21 - 01:00:19:12
Unknown
And then he goes up, and then he does a flip on stage of the grand piano, and he sings. And you look at the performance of that is a fucking showman. And, and it swallows performances that you're like, oh, that's cool. That is his voice is amazing. The song is damn nice, and his showmanship given he's only been in the business for a few years.
01:00:19:18 - 01:00:40:19
Unknown
Pretty, pretty daughter. Cool. And outfits, like, really is like one of those 70s rock bands, with Bellbottoms and all the Grammys. Yeah. The Grammys. I think because he was one of the artists that last year he really came on and I think, I don't know whether his song was nominated for something, Beautiful Things. It's a it's a really nice song.
01:00:41:08 - 01:00:59:01
Unknown
And yeah, he performed the shit out of it. And I mean, speaking of awards, the Academy Awards is happening soon. Not that I care about the awards, but Conan O'Brien is hosting it, and he's one of my favorite comedians. But the only thing that people in Hollywood agree about these days is you just what's the latest news?
01:00:59:03 - 01:01:26:16
Unknown
I mean, it's getting up. Oh, is it Ryan Reynolds as this and Taylor Swift or is it Taylor Swift also. Oh my god big like they the, tried to use Taylor Swift's name in the president or the I think, you know. Oh my god. Yeah. But just as addendum to my watch, I just checked in, actually, I think last weekend was the last run.
01:01:28:09 - 01:01:43:24
Unknown
It was running for like 2 or 3 weeks already. But. Yeah, but anyway, I'm sure we'll come back because this is the second time it's been it. We're already, Well, so can you imagine people listening and they were googling, you know, I'll bring my child in, and then you just. You just quashed a dream like that.
01:01:44:05 - 01:02:09:15
Unknown
You know, you suck it up, like, is it suck it up in the two trends in each of us? Is that one shock, transient thing? One shock transient thing. But, but yeah. Cool, man. So that's the episode. Remember, if you made it this far and if you're listening before 9 p.m. on 25th February, Tuesday, tickets for our next live show will be coming out at 9 p.m..
01:02:10:00 - 01:02:31:03
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01:02:31:05 - 01:02:36:10
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Awesome. All right. Thanks for listening, everybody. And we'll talk to y'all soon.