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A thirst quenching podcast for the girls, gays, theys, & astrology baes where we talk about anything & EVERYTHING through an astrological lens.
Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of Tea From The Galaxy, a thirst quenching podcast for the girls, gays, theys, and astrology baes where we talk about anything and everything through an astrological lens. So today, brought on the first bi queen of this Pride Month twenty twenty six. Her name is Megan Muse. She is a tower reader.
Serena:Her readings are currently blowing up on TikTok. Okay. And she is an astrologer. She does content creation for astrology.com, which is really cool. And we just had such a great conversation of what it feels it means to be a bi woman in this society.
Serena:Astrology. We talk a lot about being a Mercurial queer person, AKA having a lot of Virgo and Gemini in your chart together and why those placements tend to be leaning more towards being queer. I think you guys will love it, so let's just jump right into it. Thank you for coming on. Yeah, so excited to be here.
Serena:Questions that I ask every guest off rip who come on this podcast. You can answer all of them or none of them or whichever ones you feel comfortable. The questions I like to ask so everyone can get a little bit better understanding of who you
Megh:are
Serena:is your age, your sexual identity, your pronouns, and your big three.
Megh:All right, Absolutely. So I'm gonna be 32 in July. So for the astrology nerds at home, that's 1994. That's why it's like, yeah, how much detail do you guys want to know? I'm a I'm a Leo sun, Cancer rising, Aries moon.
Megh:Just got done with my Saturn return. Thank God. I'm
Serena:bi Interesting. Yes.
Megh:That's unlocked so much in terms of, like, my sexuality. I feel as well because, okay, I am bisexual. But if you want to know really the chaotic bi in my chart, Saturn in Pisces opposite Venus and Virgo square, Mars and Gemini. So I'm gonna give you my big three. But I feel like so much yeah.
Megh:I feel like so much of my identity as a bisexual is because of that mutable t square, to be honest. And I honestly think that after my Saturn return, it has like Saturn is giving my Venus permission to do her thing more now. Yeah. It's kind of funny. Kind of like a late bloomer.
Megh:Also, like she her she they maybe I don't think about my gender very much. I do identify as a woman, but I've flirted with the idea of being non binary. You know, so you can call me whatever. I came out as bisexual ten years ago. Now I realized it was it was 2016.
Megh:What? In June was my first, like, cry.
Serena:Yeah. That's awesome.
Megh:But I totally thought I was straight the whole time. Totally thought I was straight until I had a crush on a girl. So to get into that, the reason why I think astrology has helped me with that identity to some degree is because looking back, like, I didn't even think I was queer at all until I was like 21, 22. Mhmm. But looking back, I've been a queer woman this whole time.
Megh:Like and you can see the writing on the wall and the fact that in high school, like, I only had crushes on gay men And friendship, you where you look back and it's like, wait, maybe we liked each other, like, kind of thing. Like
Serena:Like an obsessive friendship and you're like, wait, maybe there was some extra feelings in that.
Megh:Yes. Some of that has already, like, been explored in retrospect, but it's like I was always, like, an ally. Like, I was a theater kid, and so it's like I was around queer people. But, like, I think that because I grew up, like, boy crazy or, like, I always had crushes on boys, Like the comp pet thing is a big deal, especially like being femme. Right?
Megh:Yeah. Like it was like my senior year of college. I had my first like crush on a girl. But even before then, I had lesbians have crushes on me and, like, ask people if I was bi and I just didn't even know if I was. And so lesbians knew before I did.
Serena:Yeah.
Megh:Which my ex girlfriend who I am still friends with, it's funny, like, we actually did go to college together, but well, I've had two ex girlfriends, but she's the one I refer to more because we were together longer. She we knew each other in college, but then didn't actually date until a couple years after that. But, like, she apparently, like, had wondered if I was bi, like, before I even was out or had any any clue. So Mhmm. I always find that to be interesting.
Megh:And also when I think about the way that I have crushes on men, it's always been which, I mean, pansexual, bisexual. For me, I was on Tumblr in 2016 and heavily related to the bisexual, like, memes. And so to have the label bisexual made me yeah. It made me feel like I was a part of the culture.
Serena:I identify as pansexual, queer. My journey has been like a roller coaster up and down. I wouldn't say like Tumblr made me realize, but that I liked women at that time. But I definitely realized that I liked women around like 13, 14, and that's when I started getting into Tumblr. It was like my first time really seeing lesbian couples on there and like in a cute type of way.
Serena:You know what I mean? Mhmm. So Yes. It struck something in me.
Megh:You know, you're making me realize, like, I honestly think so whenever I first realized whenever I had my first crush on a girl, which I knew she was buying, we became friends and we became friends really closely. And it started with me just being like, does she like me? And then I realized I'm thinking about this too much. Like, I think I like her. Like, honestly.
Megh:But, like, I was so surprised of, like, how could I have not known that I was queer or, like, how did this come out of the woodworks? But looking back, was just sexually suppressed, period. I'm a Virgo Venus. So
Serena:Yeah. Opposite Saturn.
Megh:Yes. Yes. And so I don't think that it was so much how did I not know? I was lying to myself. Like, never had those experiences of like feeling it and then being ashamed or at least not consciously, which I was raised with like Democrat, like liberal parents that were like pro gay marriage.
Megh:So like I and I had gay friends. I didn't have very many bisexual friends. Feel like
Serena:In high school, I only knew of one bisexual girl. I remember when she came out to me, she was like, I'm bisexual. It was like this big thing. And I just remember being so happy for her. This is when I considered myself straight.
Serena:Even though I knew that I liked girls. I just didn't think How I felt about girls, I thought everyone felt about girls. But I was like, oh, like I'll hook up with a girl, but I wouldn't date a girl type of thing. When people would come up to me, I'm like, oh, cool. Like, I was never homophobic.
Serena:Like, I was never in the closet homophobe. I was just, like, in denial in the Yeah.
Megh:So There's definitely like a there's a denial element. And then there's also kind of like a repression element as well. We're like, I think that I was just sexually repressed in general because I was like kind of a prude. I'm a very romantic person. I tend to like feel romantic towards people before I feel sexual.
Megh:And I also think part of my problem is that I feel like I had friends that were pretty girls. Like, I was friends with pretty girls and didn't feel attracted to them. And I still
Serena:to this day Same.
Megh:I have that.
Serena:Yeah. Yeah. So I guess that's why it was confusing too.
Megh:I think part of it that I've realized, I'm attracted to people that match my energy or like match my freak in every any kind of way. So like a straight woman that is my friend, that is gorgeous and 10 out of 10 is not someone I'm attracted to. Because I feel like and so this is where sometimes I'm like, am I pansexual? I prefer the bisexual label just because it's easier describe to like my grandma. If I overthink it, I get confused, to be honest.
Megh:Yeah. But like, I do kind of relate like I'm demisexual. Like, I feel like I need to have some sort of emotional or mental connection first. And I guess I just find like especially from like a spiritual level or like soulmate sort of level, like if a woman is straight, I why would I or like, I don't know. I haven't had an experience of being attracted to straight women.
Megh:I'm not trying to say that, like, if you do, that that's, like, wrong or bad. But I think another element is that why would I force the desire just because someone looks good,
Serena:technically. Think also how your chart is set up. Yeah. Looking good is not enough. Like, your planet Venus, what you're attracted to, and your Mars, your sexual desires of growth and Mercurial signs.
Serena:Like
Megh:Yes.
Serena:The intellectual needs to be there first. And Yep. I can understand on because I have a Gemini Venus. So I can think someone is 10 out of 10, go looking, like, you're fine, and maybe I'll hook up with you when I'm drunk. But, like Mhmm.
Serena:For me to get there romantically without having a conversation or, like Mhmm. If we do have a conversation and things aren't aren't lining up, but you're, like, drop dead gorgeous. Yep. I'm just not even sexually attracted to you like Yep. In that type of way or really want to continue this relationship in that type of way because I'm bored.
Serena:Like I can't even Yes. Talk to
Megh:Which what is your Mars sign?
Serena:I have a Cancer Mars. Oh, nice. Yeah.
Megh:I have found out of anyone that I have ever been like hyper fixated on romantically. They've all had a prominent Virgo in their pick in their big three. Like and I don't really know why. Well, like, my ex girlfriend who I was with three and a half years was a Virgo rising.
Serena:Well, you're attracted to Virgo energy or Venus is in Virgo. Yes. So that's a big thing.
Megh:Yeah. She also had Mars and moon and Venus and Gemini. And so Okay. I am used to the Venus and Gemini. The thing with men is that they don't commit to me.
Megh:They feel emasculated by me or like, I don't really understand, like and so this is where it's like, I think my identity is paradoxical. And that's why I like realizing, looking back, it's not just that I happen to be attracted to multiple genders. Like, I feel like at my core, I've always been a very multifaceted sort of person. Not that that I'm also ADHD, but like
Serena:Mhmm. It's hard to find people who accept you for being a multifaceted person in a society, in a world who's so fixated on putting each other in boxes and putting labels You on know, if you're spiritual, right, you gotta look like this. You gotta you gotta wear this. You gotta wear the crystal necklace and the pirate shoe pants. And if you wanna be clean girl aesthetic, oh, you can't go partying anymore.
Serena:You gotta be in bed by 9PM. If you wanna, like, be into fitness, you can't eat this. You can't eat cake on the week. You like, you know what I mean? Like, it's like Yes.
Serena:No. But I I'm am all these things, but you just can't understand it because you can only do one thing at a time. So that is the superpower of Gemini energy like being able to grasp or be multiple things at one time. But I'm interested the men that you have dated in the past, are they do they have mutable energy too in their chart or what are their charts looking like?
Megh:Yeah. So like that's another thing too that I just have to kind of say, you know, there's a whole trope of like bisexuals with boyfriends. Pisses me off personally because I can't get a I can't get a boyfriend. Or it's like, I hold men to lesbian standards slash like, I had a a year long relationship with a man in college And he was a Virgo and a Virgo Venus. But also, like, looking back, like, it was a little bit of alcoholism except for that we were 19.
Megh:So everyone was in a college town
Serena:to some degree.
Megh:Young dumb. Definitely mutable. Yeah. Definitely mutable. But like, I realized looking back, the only way I lasted with that man for so long is because every time he did something wrong, I called him out and he repented.
Megh:And like, I feel like men don't like and I also okay. Aries moon in the tenth house.
Serena:Yeah.
Megh:Which for the record, you guys, this is being recorded Jupiter and Venus conjunct. I think that's like right now. And it's on my ascendant.
Serena:Oh, I love that. Yeah. Was even a plant.
Megh:Yes. It was not. Hey, that's awesome. Yeah. And it's squaring my moon right now.
Megh:And so I'm like, alright. Here I go.
Serena:I feel like your chart has a lot of and this could probably be another reason on top of your Gemini Mars why you feel like multi multifaceted. But there's a lot of, like Yeah. Being pulled in different directions in your chart. Your moon is square your rising sign. Your Venus is opposite Saturn, and it's square, your Mars.
Serena:Like, there's a lot of, like, you're here, but also here, and you feel this way, also this way. But you view the world like this, but you feel like this, and you act like this, and you think like this. So Yes. I see exactly.
Megh:So thank you. Thank you. Yes. Because, like, I feel like I from the Virgo Venus standpoint, I feel like I'm very particular about, like, who I even like or like, I feel like I'm very particular in terms of what's going to get me going in that way. Like very, like, difficult and like picky.
Megh:But then like the Mars in Gemini is like, I'll try anything once slash very open minded.
Serena:Yeah.
Megh:And I think that's been a huge of like, okay, I'm very open minded discovering I was into women. I was not against the idea.
Serena:Yeah. Like,
Megh:but to actually physically feel comfortable was different. Because actually, before I officially came out as bisexual, I did hook up with a girl once like a year before, like and I because I wasn't attracted to her, I assumed I thought, okay, that must mean I'm straight. But then I realized there's lots of men I'm not attracted to and that doesn't mean anything. I can meet a girl and not be attracted to her.
Serena:Yeah. It's funny. And I wanna make a TikTok video about this, but I feel like after coming out, I have a superpower of, like, the ultimate gaydar. Like, I know which people are teetering coming out the closet, but they're kind of in denial. And it's because I've been there.
Serena:Or people who are just completely in the closet because of like social reasons, family acceptance, religious acceptance, society, like whatever, the cultural acceptance because coming out of the closet is so scary for them and what's on the other side. It's literally like deconstructing an old identity and walking into a new identity because it is. Like if you do marry someone of the same gender, it is complete. You have to completely reconstruct your idea of what you thought your future was going to look like and that's scary. So
Megh:Yeah. And I I have, like, bi friends who are married or, like, engaged or, like, who are, like, totally open about being bi but are with men, which doesn't make them any less bi, like, whatsoever. But I feel like though a lot of people will give bi girls with boyfriends like a bad rep.
Serena:Do you experience biphobia from lesbians?
Megh:Yes. Yes. Yes. Which my ex, if you're watching, I'm sorry. But yes, sorry.
Serena:Was just lesbian or was she bi?
Megh:She was just lesbian. I've concluded like I felt low key more oppressed in my relationships with men than how I ever felt like with my ex girlfriend to where, like, I started to, like, feel a lot about like the way that patriarchy being involved in my relationships, like is just not okay with me. And also, I don't know that I mentioned, got Uranus and Neptune exactly on my descendant in Capricorn. And so when it comes to me feeling like I can lean on someone, like, they're probably gonna be a weirdo in some way. A lot of them are queer slash I've connected with a lot of people deeply over the Internet.
Megh:I find that to be kind of interesting.
Serena:Earnest on the on the descendant. But that's another thing that's very contradicting about your chart too because a lot of cancer risings either what they find attractive is a very stable kind of stoic, maybe older partner, maybe they get married when they're older, but with the Uranus right on the descendant too, it's kind of like it you want stability but also freedom at the same time. Like, you know what I mean? In a relationship, gives contradicting energy.
Megh:Yes. And I've attracted a lot of people who do one eighties on me, ghost me, a lot of men. And I've had some men admit to me too, like, I'm intimidated by you. Okay. And then now I'm learning, oh, that's my Aries moon.
Serena:Yeah.
Megh:But I'm, like, naturally more dominant with men than what maybe they're used to or something or like
Serena:Your Aries moon is your is your chart ruler too, it's very important
Megh:in your
Serena:chart as well. So it could come off like that, but do you want to mention the TikTok video that you sent me? I think I'm gonna include it in here just because it was so well said.
Speaker 3:I have a theory that being an unapologetically Mercurial woman is a protection mechanism against dynamics with misogynistic men because they prefer to be entangled with women who won't challenge them and are less expressive. They also like to be the ones who are more intelligent. There's a certain selfishness to only engaging in your own self interest, which is why when Mercurial women enter the situation and they have an abundance of intelligence and creativity and interests that they want to speak about, it can rub these misogynistic men in the wrong way. On top of that, I find that a lot of these girls just are not attracted to men who aren't intellectually stimulating, which wraps me back into my theory that women are not built for heteronormative relationships with patriarchal men.
Serena:Because of their intellectual thinking, it intimidates a lot of men who just, you know, want a quiet woman or just want, like, a woman with not their own thoughts or not their own opinions. Know what I mean?
Megh:So An issue. Yeah. An issue You
Serena:think that's part of it?
Megh:A 100%. A 100%. And and I know, like, gosh, isn't Mercury also like a agender or like no gender compared to other planets?
Serena:It's funny because when I think about Mercury, that's how I think of Mercury. Like, think of Mercury as being like non binary. Yeah. I think if we wanna go more like towards a traditional route of Mercury, I think it's more leaning towards like a masculine type of energy.
Megh:Okay. So I had like a one year relationship with a man in college, and then I had a three month relationship with a man in college that didn't wanna 80 on me and told lies about all of our mutual friends and became a Trump supporter randomly even though he was, like, in charge of the college Democrats. And then when we broke up Weird. Became a Trump supporter. It was actually psycho.
Megh:Like but
Serena:You turned him into a Trumpy?
Megh:Yes. I accidentally turned him into a Trumpy. That's how much he was afraid of his emotions. And he broke up with me over text. He wasn't able to break up.
Megh:And and I approached him like, hey, are you going to say this to my face or? Yeah. Or what? But what's funny is that my first girlfriend, we actually met because he was, I guess, dating her. And it was like the Me Too movement was happening.
Megh:And I tweeted something about like gaslighting or verbal abuse or something. And she, like, saw it and reached out to me and then, like, told me that he has been telling her to stay away from me and that I was going to slash her tires. And I didn't even know she existed.
Serena:Oh, my God.
Megh:Like And so but then we bonded and this was the girl who was bi. And so we, like, kind of trauma bonded about the lies that this man said and like laughing about how did he like because also I was a journalism major and he started like hating journalists and like hating Hillary Clinton. And I was like, wow, you hate women. You hate journalists. Interesting.
Megh:Yeah. And so that I think
Serena:you had too much of a brain for this man. Do you have a
Megh:little beep beep? But
Serena:Oh, yeah.
Megh:Actually, yeah. He had a huge Sagittarius stellium with the Virgo moon. Like almost all of his planets were Sagittarius. Wow. I don't know what's wrong with him.
Megh:But the big fight, the fight that we got into before we broke up was like I was sick. Like I had a cold. And so I like emailed my professor and like said that I wasn't going to be in that day. And he was like, oh, my God, like, how are you going to get a job after college? You're so lazy.
Megh:Like, I was like, oh, I was like, I have good grades. I'm sick. And he was like, you're so sick. Then get out of my house because you're contagious. And I was like, we literally just had sex.
Megh:Okay. Uranus and Neptune in the seventh house. I've attracted, like, people that go completely psycho on me.
Serena:Yeah. Complete 180 or that tune right there too. It's like Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm glad you got out of that when you did because it sounds like he was showing you the tip of the iceberg of the abuse that was going to come.
Megh:Yeah. Exactly. And so but I do think like so I had that experience which made me be like, what the heck is wrong with men? And I feel like because I had an intellectual ish connection with him or like we were friends. Because like with the guys, it's like I want to be friends as well.
Megh:Like, I don't really like well, who likes being objectified? No one. I think I've also struggled with like guys that like would be attracted to me, but like want to be friends, but then not know how to treat me as a friend. Or they'd be like, oh, my God, you're so cool. Or like, oh, my God, you're too good for me.
Megh:Or like, how are we like? I don't understand. They seem to, like, glitch out. And a lot of these men have, like, I like viewed me as, like, manic pixie dream girl or, like, viewed me in, like, some kind of way and then, flipped on me when and it's it's always confused me. And I've considered of, like, if I am non binary or not, which I don't know that I am.
Megh:But I feel like even just with the bisexual label or the queer label is enough to where I feel like I don't want to play a traditional gender role in my relationships. And if I end up doing something like if I initiate that's another thing. Like with men, a lot of times I initiate with them. I tell them I'm attracted to them because I don't want to have to do any of the effort of like playing these games. I'll just tell them that I'm attracted to them and like assume that if they are, then they will meet me halfway.
Megh:A lot of men don't I want to
Serena:love that confidence. I love that, honestly.
Megh:Thank you. But a lot of them don't want to do that. They want to control a girl that they think that they can control. That's Where are from again?
Serena:Where are you born and raised?
Megh:I'm in Kansas City. So yeah. I haven't been able to escape Saturn in my ninth house.
Serena:Do you think okay. So you lived there your whole life?
Megh:Yeah. Okay. Do
Serena:you think that might like, where you're at to, like, has an effect on the type of men?
Megh:It does. It does. But I also like when I went to journalism school at Mizzou, it had a lot of people from different states. And also, I've been currently trying to get over, like, a long distance situationship, which I'll talk a little bit about that, but it's less related to the queerness. But it is kind of related to how I relate to men.
Megh:Because I guess I'll just say, sorry, I'm all over the place. So it's like I came out as queer in like 2016 and then that relationship ended more so because she was still going to be in college for another year and I had just graduated. It was like just kind of a distance thing. But like I was like dating and it was like, yeah, my twelfth house year Mars and Gemini being activated. I was like dating people and, like, really feeling like, yeah, like men were being really flaky.
Megh:I couldn't understand why men who we had so much in common, like about music and we would have so much to talk about, why they would, like, do this thing where they clearly were super attracted to me. They clearly thought I was really cool. But then they, like, just couldn't respect me or like they just didn't want to invest in me. And then my ex girlfriend, kind of the lesbian gold star lesbian was all like, you deserve better. Yeah.
Serena:Come in and I I
Megh:was like, yeah, I do.
Serena:I'll never treat you like that, babe.
Megh:Yeah. I wish you
Serena:gold stars.
Megh:Yes. Yeah. And so, like, I but I for the whole relationship, three and a half years, I feel like I struggled with not feeling gay enough for her or, like, wanting to show her that I cared about her enough. And like what I realized through that is that I had a whole bunch of baggage from the disrespect and gaslighting that men have put toward me that I realized she couldn't relate to.
Serena:Yeah. I really Yeah. Think Yeah. Yeah. Completely relate to what you were saying.
Serena:Before I dated my first girlfriend, I was in a relationship with a guy for over five years. And then, you know, got out of that, dated. I started dating guys and girls. But the amount of disrespect that I just received from men was undescribable. Like there was I thought I healed from a lot, but it wasn't until I entered the relationship with her that I'm like, Oh, I healed a, you know, some amount, but not a lot.
Serena:And then having you be like, Well, you're just gonna leave me for a man anyway. And then just these trust issues coming.
Megh:I did get that thrown at me. Yes.
Serena:Yeah. It's like, oh my god, not being able to relate because when bi or you're pan or you're queer and you're dating someone who's a lesbian who cannot understand the concept that we can be attracted to multiple genders or people who don't even identify as a gender because you're only attracted to women And then you wanna come at me and be like, I don't trust you. You're gonna leave me for a man. It drives such a wedge in the relationship and causes an identity shift to your partner because I felt like I had to be more gay, more lesbian. Let me just identify as lesbian.
Serena:And lesbian wasn't even a label that I ended up not even fully identifying with or feeling comfortable with. So now I identify as pansexual or queer. But yeah. Guess what?
Megh:If you're a woman and you're dating a woman, people are gonna call you a lesbian even if that's not what you identify as anyway. Yeah. And so the whole idea of having the whole idea that bisexual women feel like we have to prove that we're like lesbian enough or gay enough is so ridiculous when you consider that the rest of society is already labeling you all. Oh, there's a gay couple.
Serena:Technically, like, you're in, like, a lesbian relationship. Yeah. Didn't care, like, that being called, but it's kinda like Yeah.
Megh:Totally.
Serena:Feeling like you need to prove you're gay and you're yes prove your queerness to your own partner and it's like can't you see how much I love you like can't you see like is my love not enough of proof for you like I don't know how much like do you want me to start do you want me to cut my hair like you want me to, like, wear rings on all my fingers and, wear, like, I don't know boxers? Like, I don't like, do you want me to look more like, I don't know what you want from me. So that's those are the thoughts that I started thinking. And then throughout, like, the relationship, like, I did cut my hair. I cut my hair short.
Serena:Like, I started wearing like, started being a little bit androgynous here and there. Then when we broke up, I felt like that was what I had to be. And I realized I was just trying to prove my queerness to someone who was fixated on just denying it because of their own trauma.
Megh:Well, isn't it just funny how I feel like that's a very canon, like bi pan queer woman experiences, like not feeling gay enough or like also like feeling ashamed for your attraction to men or being like, oh, why would you like that little rat or like, oh, why would you love that? And I was like, I literally don't know. Yeah. I don't know why I did.
Serena:Yeah. Literally. I don't know.
Megh:I'm like, I'm sorry. Hands up.
Serena:I don't know. We just had a really good conversation and we like to play bands. Yeah. He made
Megh:me feel seen and he had good music taste. I'm sorry. Literally. So true. I think
Serena:it's such a Gemini thing. This this is Gemini's scene now too. But it's literally such a Gemini thing. The music taste. Oh my god.
Serena:Yes. Like, it's just the type of, like, intellectualness, like, that we can sit and have conversation and never get bored. The stimulation is the word that I'm thinking of.
Megh:But I wonder if this is kind of a Gemini thing too. But it's like, I would always think of it as people are always in relationships like you hopefully want to grow together. Like you don't want people to cheat. And I feel like people will think about Gemini as it's flaky when it's not really that. But also, it's like if you only have so much time in a day and what are you doing after work?
Megh:Where do you like to travel? Like, what kind of what kind of shows you like to watch? Like, what kind of music do you like to watch? And it's like, if I want to pick a person that I want to be with the rest of my life, like, would hope that we, like, enjoy would want to enjoy our time together so that we're never bored. Or else wouldn't I always have a wandering eye?
Serena:Yeah.
Megh:Like, if someone was boring me?
Serena:Big.
Megh:I don't know.
Serena:Virgo Venus thing too. So my dad is a Virgo Venus. One of my exes is a Virgo Venus.
Megh:And Oh, so you'd have the tea on us. So tea from the galaxy, baby.
Serena:I got like I love love First row view of how this placement works, but a thing that gets left on about Virgo Venus is like they like doing the daily tasks together. Like it's like I want to sit and do my taxes with you. Sitting and doing the chores of the day to day is actually enjoyable with their partner. They want someone who they could do the daily things with and that brings them joy in life. Like, it doesn't always have to be like this, maybe this big romantic gesture.
Serena:Pergo Venus is more like, do you want to cook with me? Do you want to go food shopping with me? Like, do you want to? It's like literally having a built in buddy. Like, they love that.
Serena:And Gemini is a similar way,
Megh:too. I would love to hear you talk more about that. I just have to say that made me more emotional than I thought because I'm thinking about my Saturn opposite Venus. And I've been trying to get over a long distance situationship that I just he knows this if you're watching. I have feelings for.
Megh:Guess what?
Serena:Yeah.
Megh:I've already said it. Because what you see is what you get with me. I'm honest about it. But like, I've even before having long distance situations, Technically, both of my ex girlfriends started as long distance situations as well, even if it was just two hours away. I also have like talked with people I've met online and stuff.
Megh:But like, I feel like you're right. You brought up the point about like people in Kansas City area or whatever not being my vibe. But one of my first like crushes on a guy that I don't think was gay was like before I was going to college, like I met on like the Facebook forum and he like lived in Chicago. And guess what? He had good music taste and was easy to talk to.
Megh:That's really I'm so simple. That's the thing. Act like There it's so is a feeling with the Saturn opposing it of like, what I want is far away or like the sort of guys I would be interested in often don't choose to stay and settle down in Kansas City. A lot of them have moved to pursue their careers or their creative ambition in some way. Mhmm.
Megh:Or they're queer or like have moved to a place that's gonna make them feel safer. But like, gosh, the craving of I literally just wanna like sit on the couch and talk about your day. Like, that's it. Yeah. But like that being so far away and like the Internet can make it easier to like connect.
Megh:This is my lore.
Serena:I love
Megh:it. It's like Spill the tea, baby. Yeah. Well, it's like Safe space. Yes.
Megh:Well, like Mars and Gemini, I also like to like share my thoughts just because I'm texting all day, every day. It's actually because I just want you to be a part of my everyday life. Like, it's not because I'm like so anxious and like attached. It's really just that I can't shut up. And it's really that With the seventh house, like, you're right.
Megh:Because you're right. A lot of Cancer risings do end up maybe going for like a more traditional or like daddy, like older,
Serena:like,
Megh:kind of like figure. People born like between eighty nine ish to '94. We like all have that conjunction. Like that's a very millennial generational thing to have Capricorn, Uranus and Neptune in. A lot of us, I think are figuring out what does it even mean to have a structure that is reliable if the world around us is not structured?
Megh:Yeah. And so I've wondered, like, do I attract men that are more late bloomers? Not fully feeling queer enough. But really, it's not even that my ex girlfriend was like shaming me for being bi. Like she was really understanding, like like I said, the Gemini, all that she had, she would say things she didn't meet in fights and then be like, oh, you know, that's just my security, whatever.
Megh:This is the
Serena:one who also had a Gemini Mars?
Megh:Yes. Okay. Yeah. And Venus and Moon. So she would say things like, oh, you're just going leave me for a man.
Megh:And then like later be like, I didn't consider that that was biphobic, but that was just my thought in the moment that I said. And so like, I would forgive it a lot.
Serena:Oh, my God. I used to drive such a wedge in the relationship. Yes. I was going to mention something. Oh, yeah.
Serena:So your Saturn return being that your Saturn is opposing Venus and you're you said something that stuck with me that I'm curious if people have Venus Saturn oppositions or squares can relate to this but like feeling like love is so far away or like you like you get it but you can't grasp it falls in between your fingers or it's just like something that's meant to be hard. That's something when Saturn is aspecting Venus too love can feel hard like love can feel like it's this upward battle, it's this uphill battle. And it can feel like that for a lot of people, but make sure that that uphill battle's with someone who's worth it because then you're gonna build a very strong structure. And because if not, and you're just like succumbing to people who which just doesn't seem like you. It seems like you know your worth and someone's not giving you something and you're willing to move on to the next.
Serena:Virgo Venuses are notorious for being a fixer. Like, I can fix you or let me let me prove it to you. Let me I can help you.
Megh:No work is too hard for the right person for me. And that's tough.
Serena:You can attract, like, a lot of, like, not the right people because and that's such a but that's such a wonderful trait. Like, I love that trait, Virgo Venus is. You guys are reliable. You guys are willing to ride this out. You guys are and you have that opposition at Saturn too.
Serena:So you know, like, is almost like a a business partnership. You know? Like, we we're gonna do this life together. Yeah. With the opposition, though, you probably have experienced relationships that were really good and then it felt really tough and like you know opposition is like a balance beam, you need to find the balance.
Serena:Did you find, was there a learning lesson during your Saturn return or that you realized after your certain Saturn return in terms of how you were in relationships or not?
Megh:Oh my god. Yeah. Well, it's so much of my literal Saturn return has been me dealing with the avoidant long distance situation, which is hilarious because it's so ninth ninth house, long distance travel. It was so me freaking out about not knowing if I would be able to afford to visit or if it was even practical to pursue. Wow.
Megh:That's so literal astrology. Yeah. It actually really is. To where I just started to lean into, like, how darkly absurd this whole thing is. Then my ninth hell Saturn just wanted me to track the transits and journal every day and learn from And now I offer astrology and terror rings.
Megh:I love it. But like, because I honestly feel like Saturn has been like training me through my relationships to kind of even kind of similar to you of like look, taking like analyzing the charts of like your loved ones and like starting to notice the patterns of Yeah. I feel like that makes sense for a Mercurial Venus is that we probably like to analyze our partners or like Yeah. Notice a little quirks in them and like easy to learn astrology from doing that.
Serena:But yeah, through constantly analyzing people.
Megh:Yeah. Yeah. I wonder, do you think because do you think that there could be an element of queerness even just feeling like with the Saturn Venus opposition of that love is far away or even like there is sort of like a my dream partner is this far away alien, especially with the Uranus Neptune like. Because I think part of my challenge is that as far as like not wanting to fix people or whatever, I think that Virgo Venus also tends to like people who are I'm trying to find I'm trying to find the right word. I'm sorry.
Megh:Of like people who are a little understated or a little like not showy. Humble, I guess. Or it's like, I feel like I the men that I go for tend to have no clue what appeal they have because they don't look like fucking Chads or whatever. Or like, I don't care about your muscles. I care the fact that you're smart and you're kind and you like good music.
Megh:And Yeah. And I and funny. All men have to do is be funny and kind and cool. Have interest. Develop yourself.
Megh:Yeah. And I feel like I have struggled with you. You were making me think of like, yeah, I it is almost like a business contract being like in a relationship. And so I I see it as sometimes people will be like, oh, a relationship shouldn't be this hard. You shouldn't be having to put this sort of work in.
Megh:But then I think a relationship, your partner is the person you're gonna be with when your parents die or when you're doing life shit. Like, they're they're the person that you're gonna have to deal with hard shit with. So why if you can't even deal with hard shit in our relationship, how can I trust that you can deal with hard in life?
Serena:Exactly. It's not just about someone to have fun with, although that's a huge part. Right? It's about someone who's there for you during when times when life isn't fun and, like, who's gonna hold it down for you. And especially, like, you being a Cancer rise you have a you know, you have an Earth seventh house.
Serena:You have an Earth Venus. Like, I think you do appreciate someone who can hold it down. Like, you like you like someone who's there. Someone who's you're not like, where are they at? Where like, oh, are they traveling this week for work now?
Serena:Like or how are they gonna react when it comes to this? Like, you are attracted to that type of that's
Megh:Yes.
Serena:And someone is confident in their emotions.
Megh:I think that this is making me think too, as part of just like my theories with this, is that a lot of men right now, the good ones or the ones that are trying to unpack patriarchy, a lot of them are struggling with not feeling like they could provide or like feeling like they're struggling with knowing how to be reliable. And so I feel like even if I am going for that sort of Saturn or like Capricorn figure, they're struggling with what does that look like in 2026 in a world that we don't even know if we can afford a house or we don't know if we can afford kids. And so in retrospect, I'm like because, yeah, astrologically, like, I am the cancer rising here. I should be attracting these sort of like Capricorn, like, can take care of you. Where are they?
Megh:I don't know because Yeah. Anyway. I don't know. That's a
Serena:lot That's because money isn't everything to you. Like, as women, I could easily, like, go and settle with the man and be quiet just because he's paying my bills. And like, I've watched a lot of women in my life do that growing up and I think we're also walking into a generation where we don't want that and I think more matters to you than just someone who is able to like maybe provide you a house or maybe provide you that type of material stability. That's not enough to keep you satisfied. I think you want more from life.
Serena:Yes. And I'm realizing That's valid. No. That's valid. That's that's completely valid.
Serena:I mean, I'm not saying like, go be with a bum. But I'm saying like, get you on that level where it's like, I've been with people who've had money before. It's not worth it to me. Like, it's not I don't care.
Megh:A lot of I don't really care. Like when people are like, oh, I'm going to manifest a man with money. A lot of them are really boring or they sold their souls for like a job they hate. Like, I would rather be like, I obviously I don't want to be with like a bum. But like, even if they work like at a restaurant or even if they are like an artist, they should be able to cook themselves food and clean their house.
Megh:How about Oh, yeah. Like, they should be able to take care of themselves, get their own doctor's appointments, that shit. Yeah. Like, I'm not doing that. Yeah.
Megh:But I want to connect the dots because I've been talking about men a lot and I feel embarrassed of what the other queer people are gonna think. But just to share is that like No.
Serena:I feel like this is like you're you're bi. They both Yeah. Exactly. So I feel like a lot of people can relate to everything that you're saying.
Megh:Thank you. Thank you. But I feel like I don't think that it was my ex girlfriend's biphobia that made us break up by any means. But I do think that once I got out of that relationship, I realized too that I had so much of this like I hate men, like resentment toward men that was built up that then I felt like I couldn't process during that relationship because I was trying to make sure I was, like, queer enough for her. And so I was, like, flirting with men again, dating open to dating men again, but also like experiencing a lot of rage.
Megh:Also, was around the time that Roe v Wade was overturned. So I was feeling like a lot of rage. I was 28 when I started like being open to dating men again, going on, like, first dates with men again. I was 28 where I haven't had a committed boyfriend since I was 21. And so I naively thought, oh, they must have grown.
Serena:They did. They did not.
Megh:And they did not. And they did not. And so I think that that was kind of a rude awakening to some degree. A lot of rage toward the patriarchy. But it wasn't until this last guy that I was talking to during my Saturn return kind of helped me release a lot of the hatred toward men because I started to see him as an example of a good guy who is doing his best and realizing the way that the patriarchy affects men.
Megh:And the patriarchy makes a lot of men avoidant, and it makes them feel responsible for taking care of women's emotions in ways that they honestly shouldn't have to do. And in a lot of my misunderstandings with him, I realized that he was trying to, like, play a role for me where I was like, what I know in terms of intimacy, like I because I also lived with my ex girlfriend for two years, like during COVID. And so we both worked remotely during COVID. It was U Haul on steroids, like
Serena:Yeah.
Megh:And also, like, both of us being Mars and Gemini and both of us also had Cancer Mercury. And so, like, we would talk all day every day. And so, like, I kind of just, like, realized, like, patriarchy really limits men's ability to be intimate. And, like, my understanding of what's normal to be intimate is not normal in a lot of these hetero relationships. So trying to date men again after that, it's been really challenging.
Serena:It is hard. Yeah. No. Mhmm. I completely agree.
Serena:Being pansexual, I don't really care about the gender. I will date if Yeah. You if I find you attractive. But I'm more women leaning. So I do really only date women.
Serena:But there was this one guy that I was thinking of possibly going on a date with. And the more that we were talking, the more that I felt so surface level. That's like the type of thing, That when you date a woman and then you find this connection and you feel seen, it's kind of easier to be talked to. And it's like not just scratching the surface, it's like going beneath the surface and beneath that. How do you bounce back from that?
Serena:And why don't a lot of these men know how to scratch the surface? It is because of toxic masculinity and stuff like that. Yeah. I think that's
Megh:part of it. Yeah. And I feel like even though I say this is like I've been dating men again, I've gone on a lot of first dates and felt nothing. Like I have been very just uninterested in
Serena:a
Megh:lot of men. And to the point where I'm I'm scared, honestly, to meet up with one, especially with the way my Virgo Venus is right now. It's like if I flirt with them, if I if I send some dirty talk with my Mars and Gemini and I act like I'm interested and then they say something and then I realize I'm not, am I going to be in a dangerous situation? Like, are they going to be that's me
Serena:for being I've been flirted.
Megh:Yeah. Like, it's scary because I I also realized, like, I just am a tease and it's not my fault and my look at my chart.
Serena:Yes. Wait. There's a meme. What's that meme? And it's like, I accidentally ended up in a relationship because I flirted too hard or something like that.
Serena:That's literally what it is. Yeah. Gemini Venus on my Mars.
Megh:I feel like yeah. And I feel like I want I've been wanting to, like, be more not open to dating women again. Not that I'm not open to it, but like whenever I first got over my or whenever my ex girlfriend and I first broke up, it was harder to date women, to be honest. And I think that could be normal for bisexuals too.
Serena:Did you feel betrayal from both men and women? Like, did you have to heal from both from betrayal of both genders? Yes. That was a lot for Yeah. That hit me like a train.
Serena:Yes. Like, the my therapist was working overtime.
Megh:Do you feel like it was different for you or both? Like it felt like different types?
Serena:I like I have a lot of relationship lore but it was betrayal from both but I guess with my ex girlfriend who broke my heart it felt it just hurt way more for some reason. And I don't know if it's because we're both women and it's kind of like, could you do me like that? Like, I thought you fully saw me versus when I was with my ex boyfriend. Even though he was my best friend, I didn't feel like he fully ever saw me or understood me. It was just like, you're a man.
Serena:You're a man.
Megh:Yes.
Serena:With my ex girlfriend, it's like, wow, you saw me and still did me like that. Like, that's disgusting. And that was
Megh:Yes.
Serena:I guess the biggest thing to
Megh:Yes. Yes. I so I so understand that because, like, I feel like it's normal to have like a little bit of a wall in relationships with men, I guess. Especially like when I look back to how I was in college, like it was a lot easier to just like entertain a date. But like they didn't have to know my whole heart and soul or whatever.
Megh:But like, do think that after after my relationship with my ex girlfriend, like there's kind of no going back. Like, why would I in this that I also think is Virgo Venus. Why would I date someone? Why would I settle or like date someone who is not as good of a relationship as the last relationship that I was just in? Yeah.
Megh:Like for me, I did break up with her, but it still was like felt like a betrayal in the sense that it was my Virgo Venus bringing up the same issue, like over and over for a year and just not seeing change. And a lot of it was she knows this too. If you're watching, don't be mad at me. Virgo, her Virgo rising, I don't I did not want her to be mad at me or judge me. And she would always say like, don't I don't mean to or whatever.
Megh:But like the Gemini can say things it doesn't mean in fights and I can get my feelings hurt. And anyway, it was just a matter of like trying to explain that I'm really sensitive and that hurt me. Like basically, it was like a lot of resentment building, which is kind of cancer.
Serena:Virgo Rising
Megh:are tough, low key.
Serena:Like Yeah. Like, they have an expectation for people The close to
Megh:reason why I feel we're able to still, like, be cool, like, be friends is because I feel like we fully grieved the relationship. Yeah. And I also like Mars and Gemini really beats a dead horse and exhausts things. And so I feel like we exhausted the issue over and over. Like, if both of our traumas were triggering each other in a way that was causing a spiral that wasn't helpful.
Megh:Mhmm. Then it was almost it almost felt like I love you too much that if I love you like this and it's all it's gonna do is trigger the parts of me that's gonna want to come in and fix what I can't fix. And so to me, it almost felt like a very logical decision. And but for me, once it snapped, I kind of was like, okay, that makes sense. It was hard for me, though, still being the person doing that because it was like, I didn't want to hurt her and I didn't want her to be upset there for a while, too.
Megh:It's like, if I date a man, she's gonna be pissed at me. And how could I betray? I didn't want to betray her. Yeah. I I still deal.
Megh:I I like and maybe that's like, some can argue, is it normal to even be friends with your ex? I mean, we're it's not like we talk like all the time. Like, probably Well,
Serena:it's very it's very much queer women thing. Yeah. Very much lesbiana thing to
Megh:do. Yeah.
Serena:So it's it's normal in the community for sure. I think another reason why I'm pro or why I understand you guys can be friends Yeah. Knowing that your charts. Yeah. One, you have both the same Mercury signs and the same Mars signs.
Serena:I think your communication with how it probably ended and like being able to remain friends after that, like what you said, you beat the dead horse, you squashed the beef, like, I think because your communication is solid in that type
Megh:of aspect.
Serena:I think also like her cancer placements being in your first house too, it's kind of like you see her and understand her and she probably like understands your perspective on things because although you have a Virgo Venus and you're like according to my calculations, like this isn't gonna work anymore. Yes. The ruler of your Virgo Venus is your Cancer Mercury. So there's a very much watery aspect to what is usually known as like maybe a picky, tough, judgy Venus sign. It's not super that much because the Cancer Mercury is dueling it.
Serena:It kind of is bringing in more a little bit a tad of an emotional, like, watery aspect to your Venus sign and how you love. It was
Megh:really important to me that she didn't feel betrayed and that she she didn't walk away from our relationship and think that she was broken or did anything wrong or like like it was really, really important to me that I like left her better than I found her. And I think that's also very Virgo.
Serena:Oh, that is. I love that. Yeah.
Megh:And honestly, I was so considerate of her feelings, which is exactly why I had to end it because I was not considerate enough about my own feelings. Like my point though with that is like we actually talked a couple of months ago, like we will unhash the breakup if we ever need to, if it ever comes up. But there's nothing even really to unhash. Cancer Mercury is always going to be connecting back to the past. Everything is from an origin of some point.
Megh:I realized and I told her I was like, now that I am like getting over a lot of just like my huge, like, feminine rage toward men and the patriarchy. And I'm like learning that there are some men that maybe they'll never step up and want to meet me halfway in relationship.
Serena:I think there is.
Megh:Well, I don't I don't know.
Serena:I don't I don't know. You're a perfect person, yeah, as a man or a woman, I like Yeah.
Megh:I don't really care.
Serena:Well, say As long
Megh:as they Yeah.
Serena:Exactly. I think I long I will never lose hope in humanity. I think there is good men out there. It's kind of harder to find. But I do believe that they are out there, and that's why, like, you should never settle.
Serena:Like, you should never settle or, like, lose hope in in that. But, like, who's to say, like, you would even end up with a man, you know? So it's
Megh:like Yes. And so this is a point I definitely wanted to mention in this is that I feel like I think that it's intimidating to men dating them when they know that you don't need them to pick. Actually don't. Like there's like it's like a power dynamic thing. But also, it's like I've already accepted.
Megh:Like I talked about potentially marriage with my ex girlfriend. And so it's like I've already grieved. I might not have a normal wedding. I might not do all the things like and so whenever men are trying to like dangle like marriage and kids in front of me is that I give a fuck. It's so weird.
Serena:A question that I wanted to ask you and I was thinking I was like, maybe I have to spice this question up a little bit. So usually every pride month, the guests that I have on, I ask what are your top three gayest signs? But because you're a bi queen, what do you think are the top three most bisexual signs that you find? Yes.
Megh:Okay. Gemini. Pisces. I feel like Pisces is probably just more likely to be fluid in some way.
Serena:So many people say Pisces is crazy.
Megh:Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
Serena:There's truth in that for sure.
Megh:And honestly, maybe Virgo. I appreciate you having me on because it's like I also feel like I don't see a lot of bi examples of people who are like fully okay with being bi. And like, I'm not just saying that. Yeah. Sorry.
Megh:I'm such a Leo right now. But it's like a lot of a lot of bi people will have a or it's like or like people will ask me if I have a preference And it's like, I don't. Yeah. You know? So I don't know.
Serena:I think you just love the mind. Like, think you were such a sapiosexual. But also, like so this is something that I find hard too because when it comes to, like, things manifestation, right? What do you want your dream future to look like?
Megh:Yes.
Serena:I think being bi, pan or queer is kind of like, well, is it gonna be with a man? Is it gonna be with a woman? How do I manifest it? I don't know what this is gonna look like. You know what
Megh:I mean? That's a good question.
Serena:So it's more of like thinking of an idea and getting down of like the personality traits that we need and want instead of like Yeah. Or like a feeling too. Know, you're a Cancer rising. I'm a Scorpio I think working with how things feel is very important
Megh:too. Yes, that's so true. It is so easy to get confused, even if you're totally comfortable in your sexuality. If it's like trying to pick picture who it is you like or whatever. I have been thinking of it as how do I want to feel?
Megh:And I think like the people that I've been fixated on, it's like they make me feel exactly how I want to feel. And so it's not even that it has to be them. But it like activates a feeling in me that I'm like, this is exactly how I want to feel when I'm in relationship. Like, I feel safe. I feel taken care of.
Megh:And I think
Serena:I don't hear this conversation a lot being talked about. And although I am, like, woman leaning and I feel like I am gonna marry a woman, like, marrying a man isn't off the table for me. But I feel like this isn't a conversation I hear often. It's kinda like how confusing it can be of, you know, not knowing what that future is gonna look like because, like, world is our oyster in a way. You know?
Serena:There's a part of me that
Megh:does wonder if I will end up with a man and it makes me feel sick because then I'm like, do I just hate being mistreated? Is that my Virgo Venus like, I I don't wanna be that. I don't wanna be the desperate girl that like puts up with shit, You know? Like
Serena:No. That's you're not meant to
Megh:do that.
Serena:Your chart literally screams no. Okay? You know? Like, no. Yeah.
Serena:I don't think that's what you're meant for in this lifetime. You're meant to do a lot. You have a lot happening and going for you right now as well. So like literally I saw recently like your Tarot TikToks are having a problem. Okay.
Serena:Yes. Yes.
Megh:I appreciate that. And I've been contributing to astrology.com just to give a shout out to on their Instagram. Mhmm. Coming out as queer is kind of similar to coming out as being witchy and, like, reclaiming it in your identity to some degree because like I've had different versions of myself. I've always been interested in this stuff, but like having that gig with them, it's like, okay, I I need to not feel weird about talking about my interests.
Megh:And I will say, yeah, I do think that my Mars and Gemini being in the twelfth house, there is an element of like that being a surprise or like my queerness being coming from complete surprise because it was from the twelfth house.
Serena:Or a reason why I was depressed for a long time too. Yes. Yes. It's a dark house. It's a hidden house.
Serena:Yeah. Do you want to tell everyone, like, what you're currently working on? Yes. Coming up for you where people can find you.
Megh:Yeah. You can find me on TikTok or Instagram at Megamuse. M E G H A M U S E. That's my Internet persona, by the way, you guys. Yeah, I'm offering.
Megh:I do have tarot and astrology video readings available right now. But long story short, I got laid off from my digital media strategy role like a year and a half ago and I was facing long term unemployment, kind of getting on my feet again. And I'm getting ready to start offering like consulting as well. So be on the lookout for that because like I'm starting a podcast called The Sovereign Signal that may or may not already have my first episode out by the time this is up because I just started this morning. Brand strategy consulting.
Megh:Like I'm basically going all in on starting my business on top of these other things. And so I'm wanting to like I'm mostly posting on TikTok of just like wanting to update along the way with where I'm where I'm at. So I am also on YouTube. Meg Muse, you'll find me. I grew a YouTube channel.
Megh:I started it in, like, 2015. I got up to nearly 20 k and talked about personality type. So, like, I'm a huge, huge fan of Carl Jung, Dep Psychology.
Serena:Me too.
Megh:Shadow Work.
Serena:Yes.
Megh:Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Yay. And so, like, I used to post on there a lot about, like, ENFJ versus INFJ, like a bunch of stuff like that.
Megh:And I'm kind of wanting to revive that channel. So I'm gonna post my podcast on that channel.
Serena:Oh, perfect.
Megh:So so yeah. So go follow my YouTube channel if you want to know when my podcast drops.
Serena:I will definitely go do that. Yeah.
Megh:Yeah. Because it's kind of like I've been in this phase of like breaking free, almost unmasking from like feeling the need to be Megan, the personality girl to allowing me to be Meg Muse, whatever the hell I feel inspired to share.
Serena:You are the brand, baby.
Megh:Yes. Yes. And so that's why I like I really am interested in helping use whatever I've learned about marketing and journalism to help creatives, like, put their voice out there and, like, find your voice. And like, I feel like I've almost been like back stage. Oh, my God.
Megh:I can't wait for Jupiter and Leo.
Serena:Yeah. I'm gonna go to It's gonna be so nice for you.
Megh:Yeah. Yes. I'm excited. But
Serena:Well, I'm very excited
Megh:for all
Serena:the upcoming things that you have happening. I will make sure to be there. I'm gonna subscribe to the YouTube channel. And, yeah, thank you again for joining. This was such a nice conversation.
Serena:This was so much fun.
Megh:Thank you. And thank you for being such a beautiful, safe or a Jupiter and Venus cancer container for all of these conversations. Like, I'm saying I'm excited for Jupiter and Leo, but, like, Jupiter and Cancer, like, you know, going to soak that up while it lasts
Serena:for the rest of the month. I think this was a nice day to record on and kind of like jump start, you know, a You new
Megh:thank you so much for having me on. And, yeah, you've even helped me. Yeah. Because I think last thing I'll say, I'm sorry. It's just like I think being queer, it could feel like a fragmentation of your voice or your identity at some in some ways.
Megh:Yeah. And so I think that I just I posted something today where I said bisexual is a mindset. Yes. And bitch. I like I feel I feel like my mind is queer and like the way that I've had to fragment to fit in, like, I see so many parallels of how that works with being like a witchy woman versus also being queer.
Megh:And it's like, we have to come out again and again, especially when you're like femme. Like Yeah. No one no one in my life like, no one assumes that I'm queer unless they have gaydar. Yeah. Like, very cancerous.
Megh:And you also to them, like, allow people to feel at home to come out and talk about themselves.
Serena:That's awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah.