Mr. & Mrs. Inglis

All aboard the chaos express! If you’ve got a ticket for this ride, you already know it. It’s the one where there’s never enough time in the day—kids’ schedules outpace yours, work demands keep piling up, and oh yeah, the laundry, dishes, mowing the lawn, and bills aren’t going to handle themselves. Let’s not forget staying connected with friends and family, even though you planned to be in bed by 9 pm…but it’s now 11 pm, and tomorrow starts before the sun does. Sound familiar?

We’re right there with you. Welcome to The Mr. & Mrs. Inglis Podcast, hosted by Shaen and Meghan Inglis—a weekly show where we dive into real and honest conversations about the wild ride of raising kids, growing careers, and managing family and friendships in the middle of life’s beautiful chaos. So, grab your ticket and join us for a weekly dose of camaraderie, connection, and a reminder that you’re never in this alone.

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What is Mr. & Mrs. Inglis?

We’re right there with you. Welcome to The Mr. & Mrs. Inglis Podcast, hosted by Shaen and Meghan Inglis—a weekly show where we dive into real and honest conversations about the wild ride of raising kids, growing careers, and managing family and friendships in the middle of life’s beautiful chaos. So grab your ticket and join us for a weekly dose of camaraderie, connection, and a reminder that you’re never in this alone.

Follow and subscribe to the Mr. & Mrs. Inglis podcast and visit our channel and our website at shaeninglis.com to check out and follow our other podcasts. You can also follow Shaen and Meghan @ShaenInglis on Instagram, YouTube, etc. Feel free to share the Mr. & Mrs. Inglis podcast with someone who would enjoy and benefit from our weekly discussions.

[MUSIC]

Gotta go.

[LAUGH] Yeah, my mom had a really big bell.

Good Monday, no time Tuesday, no time.

That's the way the world works.

Right, right, yeah.

No more, I can't not

have my water run downhill.

In fact, I think there's a

famous saying about that, like,

all something runs downhill, like.

No, no, no.

My initials are on it, that's fine.

You're like, get down.

So I'm like, get down.

Like, we're about to be in a shootout.

Hey, Robert, how are you?

And he'd be like, good.

Cuz we ain't never home.

Did I just say ain't?

No.

Quote, Taylor Swift, never wield such

power you forget to be polite.

I'm gonna quote Justin

Bieber and say, go love yourself.

A cheers and a high five.

High five.

Welcome to the Mr. And

Mrs. English podcast.

I'm Megan.

And I'm Sean.

We're here to talk about the wild ride of

raising kids and growing careers,

keeping life together in

the middle of all the chaos.

So buckle up because we're all in this

crazy journey together.

Tots, la la land, bippity boppity boop.

Is that a new one?

Bippity boppity boop.

That is a new one.

I just made that up right now.

I love that.

I love the Cinderella reference.

Bippity boppity boop.

Yeah, although she's not a boop.

She just goes boop.

And the actual song.

The fairy godmother.

Yeah, just I'm looking at our thing.

Are we centered?

I don't know.

I feel like you're more

to the right than I am.

I feel like I'm closer to you because I

look huge compared to you.

Using a different lens.

Here you go.

Cheers.

Cheers to a rare Wednesday night.

And we're gonna stop.

We're gonna call it out.

It's Wednesday night.

Highlights go out tomorrow.

We got it in just in the nick of time.

It's busy.

It's actually do it Monday.

No time.

Tuesday.

No time.

Wednesday.

We have some time.

Maybe we can squeeze it in.

Yeah.

And turns out that it was easy to squeeze

in because we had a

few cancellations because

we had the rare rainstorm.

Yeah, that was awesome.

Do we get rain here?

I wasn't at the house today.

I was at a different location.

Yeah.

We did.

So I'm hopeful that we don't have to

water the flowers today.

I know the kids will

be happy about that too.

That is such...

It's a to-do obviously.

Cheers.

I didn't even take a sip.

But I'll sip it when

you're talking, I guess.

It's such a to-do during the summer.

I love having the flowers.

It's really nice to have the flowers in

the front and the back.

But I mean, I don't remember how many

flower pots we have.

But there's a few of them.

Enough that it's not just

a quick dink, dink, dink.

We're done.

It takes...

When I do it, it's 30 minutes watering.

The whole front takes me 10, 15 minutes

to get it done right.

Then you go to the back.

It's another 10, 15 minutes.

And the kids spend how much time on it?

Oh gosh, five in the back.

Well, they do split it up

among the three of them.

But no, it is a legit 10 minutes.

Although I think I've gotten pretty

efficient on like how I do it.

So I can get it down to 10 minutes.

You've got it down.

Yeah.

It just needs...

It's so high here.

If we don't get them watered.

Well, I feel like it's almost like abuse.

Yeah.

Well, and I should mention, most...

A lot of the big pots

are automatically watered.

Yeah.

Oh gosh.

If we had to water those...

Yeah.

And then I installed one that was

supposed to work and didn't work.

And I haven't been able to...

I haven't taken the

time to revisit that one.

Because it should water

those new ones in the new pots.

I didn't know that it didn't work.

I just thought it

wasn't fully set up yet.

No, it's not working.

It's literally...

It's like Amazon.

It's like the last mile of it.

Water comes to the black

tube from back in here.

So if I undo that black

tube, water will squirt out.

It's that black tube to the little tubes

that then go up into the pots

underneath, from underneath,

that it's not making it up.

Got it.

So I just don't know if I did something

wrong there and I have not.

It's been four months.

I haven't revisited.

So 2026, that will be running so

smoothly, you won't even

know what to do with yourself.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

Put that on your New Year's resolution.

I also bought more of

that irrigation equipment.

So the two front trees, I

could water those on their own.

Yeah.

And I have all the stuff to run it

straight to them and I

haven't done that either.

I mean...

I mean, what have you

been doing with your time?

I mean, gosh, I feel like, you

know, you have so much extra.

But doesn't everybody have that?

I mean, I go to Home

Depot and buy all this stuff.

Like, I got to do this, I got

to do this, I got to do that.

And I go to Home Depot to get all this

stuff to do it because I'm a DIYer.

You are.

But I think I'm a good DIYer.

You're an excellent DIYer.

And I'll go into that more here and just

say why I say that versus a bad DIYer.

But then I just don't... sometimes I

don't get to it because

I need two or three hours

to do something or even

an hour to do something.

And to make sure I do it

right, you know, it just sits there.

So I've got all these great projects in

the garage ready to go.

Ready to go.

Mm-hmm.

But you're so good at it and you're so

thorough that I think it

takes you longer than the

average... maybe the average person

because they don't...

they're maybe not as meticulous

or... I mean, if you're going to do

something, you're going to do it right.

If I can't do it like a

professional, I'm not going to do it.

You won't do it.

I'm just not going to do it.

You'll literally hire a professional.

I will hire the professionals to do it,

but I am very handy.

Yes. And this is not a pat me on the back

thing, but I'm very handy

and it saved us a lot of

money over there.

Plus, I enjoy it.

Yeah.

I think I've mentioned to you, not on

this show, but when I

put that sump pump in over

here...

Yeah.

And I had to dig down like six feet in.

This whole thing with the hot tub, I

don't know if I've

mentioned it on this show, just

this back and forth and just... just

flooded this hot tub

multiple times because I think

we've mentioned it.

The builder didn't do it right.

Yeah.

Anyways, plus the irrigation here.

I mean, the land... the land... what is

it called when you get rid of the water?

Oh, oh, like mitigation.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Like water mitigation.

But I mean, we're on a little bit of a...

you know, our property

is not level, so it runs

from, you know, east to west.

Right.

Much to the strength of

our neighbors to the west.

Yeah.

And then our water comes to them, but

it's like, that's the

way the world works.

Right, right.

Don't know where else to... I can't not

have my water run

downhill to your property.

In fact, I think there's a famous saying

about that, like, "All

something runs downhill."

No, the links.

Water.

All water runs downhill.

But I think the principle

applies to a lot of things.

Yeah.

Anyways, my point to all that was just,

as much as I love doing,

you know, home improvement

things, and I really do like, you know,

I'm getting tired of the

more manual labor ones.

Like, I'm not enjoying digging dirt.

I don't know.

Digging, like, you know, trenches and

digging six-foot holes.

That is starting to wear on me.

And you've had to do quite a bit of it.

I mean, I will say, the engineering

marvel that is the sump

pump that you put in for

this hot tub.

With redundancies and

other pump redundancies.

This is after I've already flooded it 18

times, or four or five.

Yeah, pretty sure it's now been the

eighth wonder of the world.

But I'm still not done with it.

This is a prime example.

I've got the PVC in the other garage,

because right now, that sump pump is just

going up out of a

regular garden hose, basically.

So I run that garden hose over to some

other drains that then

go to our neighbor's yard.

Downhill.

Sorry, there's no other way.

I can't put it the other way.

It runs downhill.

It would not go.

Right.

Anyways.

Guess what?

We get their water.

Yeah, we do.

And it infuriates me.

I can't believe that their water would

run into our yard, even

though they have the higher ground.

Our poor neighbors, they did not like us

building this house.

They have a lot of issues with that.

Yeah, the ones downhill from us.

And the other ones left.

They did.

We offended both of our neighbors.

That was a whole story.

Crazy neighbor stories.

We can talk about that.

We can talk about crazy neighbor stories.

Oh my gosh.

We don't have anything

to talk about tonight.

So we're just going to

come, whatever comes to mind.

I'm going to finish my story.

I've got PVC to finish that sump pump,

because I want that water to go straight

into the drain and not up out of a hose

that I have to move.

And that the people that move are lawn

move, put it right back there.

So if it rains, it's literally pumping

straight back into itself.

Like if you're going

to move it, put it back.

Okay.

What's the definition of insanity, right?

Like a sump pump draining into itself.

Yes.

I think that's the new

definition of insanity.

I love it.

Oh goodness.

So so I guess let's start with neighbors.

That's kind of a cool thing.

Everybody's got a neighbor, right?

Everybody's got a good neighbors.

Everybody wants.

Let's go back to the 80s.

Yeah.

Right.

Or the 70s or even the 50s.

Wherever people go back that far.

What's the life with some

people that listen to this.

Okay.

And I mean, there was a time when there

was the neighborhood,

like everybody got a lot.

I mean, maybe the people didn't get one.

Maybe it was still

neighborhood drama, stuff like that.

But like there was a time when like

Sesame Street was the normal, right?

Not Oscar the ground, not

people living in trash cans, but.

But the whole neighborhood thing.

Everybody was friends.

Friendly.

Yeah.

Well, and even in my lifetime, I grew up

knowing my neighbors very well.

I even know some of your neighbors

because you know them so well.

Yes.

At the old, before your parents moved.

Yeah.

Oh, sure.

I bet you know, actually most of them.

Yeah.

And they know you.

Yeah.

Because it's like, that's when you bring

in, you know, oh, I

remember being a kid and our

neighborhood, all these peas.

Let's go ahead and do it.

Okay.

So here's your house.

Who's on your, you're on a cultist.

You grew up, you're the last house you

lived in because you live

in a couple, but the last

one in Bloomington.

Yeah.

You want to call it a sack?

Yeah.

You know everybody there, right?

Yeah.

With the, well, with the exception of

like two houses that

kind of changed owners a few

times.

So I may not know.

But when you grew up, when I grew up,

yeah, for the most part, for sure.

For sure.

Like I babysat the

people across the street.

The people next door, the Amists.

Oh my gosh.

And they had a little

girl who was hilarious.

And like, I just remember I was in high

school and she was pretty little.

She was running around the front yard in

the sprinklers in red

cowboy boots and nothing

else.

It was, she's like three, by the way.

Just, just like, it was so funny.

And we're like, oh,

there's Emily or Madeline.

It was Madeline.

That was a good data point.

Yeah.

She was three.

She was troubled.

She went to counseling.

She was 19, but she was on drugs.

It was always weird.

She was just this like free spirit little

toddler who loved red

cowboy boots and not

clothes.

But yeah, one of my brother's best

friends lived there.

I mean, it was awesome.

Yeah.

So I mean, I can do that too.

Like from Black Diamond where we grew up,

one of my best friends, I

think we can say people's

names on here, right?

Like the Starkey.

So the Starkey's were right next door.

Right.

And so one of my best

friends, sorry, my mic is so low.

I don't know.

I'm back.

My mic, I had to fix my mic.

Technical difficulties yet again.

We had to call in the group and the hand

and the grip and all that kind of stuff.

Oh, I know.

They're the best in the business.

The producer's not happy with

me, but you know, it's best.

Yeah, we had the best in the business.

Best in the business.

Anyways, to our right was the Starkey's.

Right.

And I remember the

Starkey's, that was my best friend.

So I would go over there and

elementary is my best friend.

So I would spend the

night over there all the time.

They didn't have a finished basement.

I mean, like I can go all

the houses that I grew up in.

I was there since second grade, right?

They didn't have a finished basement, but

we would play down there

like He-Man and Transformers

and G.I.

Joe.

And I remember, if Mitch ever listens to

this, he's my friend.

It's funny because there was a couple of

times he, and this

might've started where I got

really anal in life, but there was a

couple of times I kept my

toys as you would guess.

Pristine, I'm sure.

Pristine.

Oh, if I could play with them in the

package, I would have.

Pause.

You still have many of these

toys in pristine condition.

And some of them, you didn't want to

allow our children to

play with because you thought

our kids might wreck

them, which they probably did.

Well, I mean, they're

historical items now.

I don't know that we should let two year

olds play with them as

good of shape as they're

in.

Anyways, pristine condition.

And I would bring some of my toys over

there to play when we play sometimes.

And because mine were so nice, there was

a couple of times

that I, and he was a year

older than me, he

switched out a couple of mine.

He's like, that's mine.

I'm like, no, it's not.

That's mine.

And I don't like confrontation, or at

least at that point in my life, I didn't.

I don't like it now

either, but I'm fine with it.

Right.

As a child, different story.

So that's when I started putting my

initials on, like on the

bottom of my GI Joe guys,

I actually carved my

initials into their feet.

If anybody remembers GI Joe's, they have

feet and they had those

holes in them so they would

stand up.

Right.

Well, in that little area, which is 10

millimeters, maybe I use an

exacto knife that I use for

a lot of my model making and whatnot.

And I etched my initials

into the bottom of those.

Some of the bigger ones I'd use like a

marker or something like

that, but clearly where

you couldn't see it

because I didn't want to ruin it.

But then I knew like, no, no, no, my

initials are on that.

That's mine.

Anyways, that was the Star Keys.

Next to them, that one changed over.

But the next to them, I used to babysit

their kid for a while.

Greatest thing ever.

I would get $5 after school.

I don't know, like

fourth grade, fifth grade.

I would babysit him for like two hours.

I would get $5 and I

would get as many pops.

No, I think I got one root beer.

I think we were allowed

each to have one root beer.

Right?

Across the street from us was the cooks.

Matt Cook, he was another

really good friend of mine.

That's where I watched Thriller when the

video Michael Jackson Thriller came out.

Remember that?

It was a huge deal.

It was like 20 minute

video or something like that.

I don't remember what it was.

It was long.

But it was a big deal.

That's where I watched

Thriller, the Star Keys.

In fact, we were good friends.

I mean, the cooks, we were really good

friends with them for a while.

That was the people we

would throw the football with.

The dads, like Neil Starkey, Jim, and

then I can't remember

David Cook's dad's name.

Matt Cook's dad's name.

But we would actually.

Do you actually have

a singer next to you?

That was like the Sesame Street moment.

We had it for like two years.

See, and we had pretty much in any of the

neighborhoods that I

grew up in, because I

moved around quite a bit during those

years where you make

friends with your neighbors.

We played Ghost in the Graveyard.

Yeah.

Because like in the house my parents just

moved out of, we had

the Olsens and they had

like a kid every single one of our kids

age for the most part.

Yeah.

We played Ghost in the Graveyard and oh

my gosh, we did it so

when we lived in the Chicago

suburbs, Wheaton, we had

the Minachos right there.

They had a kid every year.

The Minachos.

They had a kid every year of ours too.

Actually, I did not be friends with

somebody named the Minachos.

Exactly.

They were super cool.

We even went to college with the one who

was my younger brother's

age, he went to the University

of Iowa with us.

Like how, yeah.

It was just awesome.

Yeah.

We played Ghost in the Graveyard too.

That was such a fun game

and we got to stay out.

I don't know what it is, but there's

somewhere out there, there's

one of those reels or memes

or whatever, but it talks about Gen X's.

Right?

There were Latteeds kids, we talked about

it here before a little

bit, but it was totally

true.

When the lights came on, we went home.

In fact, for me, it

was when Jim whistled.

There was a whistle that went.

[Whistling]

Anybody listening knows that, that knows

Jim would know that.

But I could hear that.

My really good friend, Jim O'Malley, who

was like two streets

away, I could hear it at

his house.

I mean, it's got to be 300, 400 yards,

because it's two streets.

It's my street, another

street, and then a cul-de-sac.

I could hear it, I'm like, "Got to go."

Yeah.

My mom had a really big bell.

Yeah.

A really...

Like she'd get like a

cow bell type thing?

Not like a cow bell, like a...

Like a...

Like a Liberty bell?

Smaller Liberty bell.

Like a small Liberty bell.

It was like, I mean, the handle was long.

The handle was like that.

Give me some inches, like 12 by 12?

I don't know.

I bet the circumference of the bottom of

the bell was 10 inches?

Okay.

So...

So she would hold...

This bell would have a handle?

So it would just go ding, ding.

Was it hung somewhere?

No, it like sat up.

It was actually, I

think a hutch that they had.

That's something people...

So there's a

freestanding bell that was...

Maybe a six inches of circumference?

I don't know.

I can't remember.

And she would just bang on that?

No, she would like ring it.

Like, you know, like a

bell choir at church?

I don't know if they have these anymore.

And they did it to their chest?

Yeah, yeah.

So it was like, think of like the biggest

bell that you would find in a bell choir.

Yeah.

That's what my mom had.

And so when we were

playing at Seven Gables Park...

Yeah.

Which was probably only

like 100 yards away, right?

You clearly...

Yeah.

You know, the whistle

was louder than this bell.

But oh yeah, we'd be playing at the park

and like we'd hear

this bell and like, okay,

it's time to come home.

Yeah.

Wow.

Interesting.

I never heard that story.

Really?

Yeah.

So was that a low pitch?

Bigger bells are

usually lower pitch, right?

It was a lower pitch bell.

Yeah.

But she'd only do it once

or she'd like go crazy on it?

I don't remember a couple times maybe.

Like I bet, you know,

she gave us two or three.

You know, she's mad.

Like, where are these...

Dum, dum, dum, dum, dum.

Gibbs kids are in trouble again.

Honestly, I don't think she, she was

probably just like

dinner's ready and like she's a

mom of five.

She was probably like, they don't have to

really rush home because I'm enjoying the

quiet.

Yeah.

So last question, where

was it located in a cabinet?

Yeah.

So like, you know, the glass hutch.

Yeah.

Oh, she takes it out of there though.

She would take it out of there.

Was it on a handle?

It had a long, long straight handle.

So it really was like a choir one.

It was a total choir bell.

She used to boom.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Would she do it like that too?

Probably.

Okay.

Like, cause I know that.

Like, the church we went to, it would

bring out all the

bells for Christmas Eve.

So I think that's what it was for because

my mom was in the

bell choir at one of the

churches that we were in.

And when we moved

away, they gave her a bell.

Seriously?

I think so.

That's fantastic.

I did not know that.

I apologize if I'm lying to all of our

listeners, but I'm pretty

sure that's why we have this

bell.

Cause I think it said

like, you know, I had no idea.

RG had was so talented to like Cox,

Christie bell choir, and

then like the years or whatever.

I think they gave it to her

as a, as a going away present.

Okay.

Yeah.

And so she would ring it.

It was in that hutch that was in the

living room for a long time.

Did you have any bad

neighbors at that point in time?

Cause I know for us,

I'll just, oh, go ahead.

You owe something came to your mind.

We did.

Uh-huh.

And it's actually not super.

It's not, it's not a funny story at all.

Actually it's, um, so one of, one of the

neighbors, uh, had a, had

a kid that they had adopted

any in this, this kid was

definitely a troubled youth.

Can I reach back?

Your, your, your

earring is like backwards.

Anyway, so this was a troubled youth and

he, he actually broke

into our house and stole

money.

Well, I had the same kind of deal.

He was another troubled youth.

He was, he was, he had

special problems of some sort.

I don't know what he is, but, um, but he

would, he was from up the

street and he would come

down and like, if your garage was open,

he would just wander

into it and take stuff out

of it.

But he was, he was special at that time

before people really kind

of, you know, treated that

differently.

Yeah.

And yours is a

different kind of problems.

I know.

I remember you telling me.

But other than that, like the parents

though, I mean, they were

actually friends with my

parents and, you know, and honestly, this

kid was a friend of my

older brothers because

he was in the neighborhood.

He would play with them.

And so we were really surprised.

Frankly, we didn't even know that he had

broken in and stolen

anything until later the cops

showed up.

Um, but we did have a neighbor

who was a, a, a top gun pilot.

He was a top gun instructor.

He would always wear his top gun.

Yeah.

He would wear his top gun hat.

It was, it looked like the movie hats.

100%.

No, really dead serious.

That's hilarious.

Don't remember that.

What was this call sign?

I have no idea.

Oh, I figured you wouldn't remember his

name, but you had to

remember his call sign.

I don't think I asked

him what his call sign was.

It wasn't Maverick.

It was not Maverick.

Viper maybe.

He was more of a Viper guy.

That's awesome.

So I'm trying to think, uh, there was a

house across the street

from us that was never out

in social and they didn't do

their yard, even back then.

And the yard was growing in a nice

suburban neighborhood

in Colorado Springs.

And that drove everybody crazy.

That house constantly turned over.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

I don't think we had anyone like that on

any of our, I mean, we

had some people who weren't

really social, but yeah, that was fine.

Maybe they didn't have kids or I mean, I

grew up around a lot of kids.

So let's think then, then, so then you

get, as you, as you

progress with life, you start,

then you go to like apartments, right?

And you figure out, okay.

Don't even get me started on some of the

people I've lived next to from an

apartment standpoint.

Apartments are the worst that you

couldn't, I would, I

would, I would live in the woods

before I'd go back to an apartment.

Cause you got people on the side of you,

on top of you, God forbid on top of you.

Remember, remember our little duplex or

whatever triplex in Chicago?

Oh my gosh.

Yes.

And the guys above us, we had a bunch of

college guys above us.

Yes.

And where we had, I mean, that was a

super nice apartment.

One is super nice, but one

of them was Bigfoot, right?

Yeah.

The way he walked around everywhere.

What was that?

Oh my gosh.

And where we had like a

really nice living room set up.

Mm-hmm.

Cause I mean, it was a nice apartment.

They had a beer pong table.

How do you know that?

Were you up there?

No.

Oh, no, I was never up

there, but we could hear it.

You could hear it.

I'm just kidding.

I was like, it was like, I was like, did

we ever go up there?

That was crazy.

We didn't have, there

was no elevator in that.

I bet if they made that today, they put

an elevator in there.

Cause that was a lot of stairs.

It was.

Good thing we were young.

Yeah.

But I mean, we carried our groceries up.

I know.

I was saying.

Yeah.

That was all, that's

all, it was only you and I.

One of my sisters lived

with us for a little while.

Yeah.

But yes, I do.

Cause you could hear like the think,

think, think of the beer pong.

Oh, I remember.

I remember.

I was trying to remember if we had ever

gone up there though.

Everywhere we've gone though, in

Yorkville, then so we

lived, then we moved out to the

suburbs and we have

children in Yorkville.

We had pretty good neighbors.

Oh yeah.

Except the people on the end.

You're right.

Did you forget about the people on the

very end out of our back window?

Gosh.

Yeah.

Okay.

Set the stage.

We had lived in that, we

hadn't even fully moved in.

We didn't.

Brand new neighborhood.

So we ground up build

with whole day homes.

So people, like there's lots of people

are buying, people are

just buying lots and building

brand new homes.

What do you forget about this?

Yeah.

We talked about that another day.

That was like the most

exciting thing we had done.

Like we'd go out there on the weekends

and just look at the,

you know, what happened,

the form and the basement

when they, when they drill.

Anyways, go ahead.

So we didn't even have furniture.

We maybe only had some furniture, but we

had only been in there.

It was one of our

first nights in the house.

It was early on for sure.

Early on.

I know we didn't have drapery.

Like we had nothing to cover our windows.

So another thing we can talk about.

I sewed that drapery.

You did.

You did such a good job.

Me. It's like 20 foot curtains.

Yeah.

We couldn't afford curtains.

So you sewed.

And I, because I had to put

blackouts on the back of them.

It was white and we picked

out a curtain and I sewed them.

Anyways, go ahead.

Yeah.

And now you're a seamstress.

I've been a seamstress for 25 years now.

It's what you moonlight doing.

Seeming financial packages together.

I like what you did there.

Anyways, go ahead.

Um, but all of a sudden, all

these cop cars come flying.

And we knew because we

didn't have curtains.

And we knew because we

used like two story windows.

It was great.

Yeah.

Almost floor to ceiling.

Yeah.

And like, what's going on?

Curbs drawn everything.

I mean, there's literally like a cop goes

like into our backyard on his belly.

Yes.

On his belly with a gun like with a

pistol pointed at our

neighbors, catty cornered in

our backyard.

Oh, nobody has fences in these bad guys.

Fences weren't allowed

in this neighborhood.

So it was just wide open.

You're like, get down.

So I'm like, get down.

Like we're about to be in a shootout.

At this time, we're

like, what have we done?

This is like a nice neighborhood.

Yeah.

And what was it?

It was a, it was an alcoholic mother.

Parents I think it was

the son that had the issue.

Remember the son didn't live there.

They have like kicked out

their kind of adult son.

Son who had.

He came back in there and they were like

trying to get issues.

They always called the cops on him

because he had, he had like drug issues.

Yeah.

Even Michael now their

names are coming to me.

What?

Yeah.

I would believe it or not.

I remember their names.

That's insane.

Anyway, but yeah, it was their son who

came out who they had

kicked out and he had a weapon

and he was not, not well.

It happened multiple times.

Multiple times.

That was actually scary from the

standpoint that if, if

bullets started flying, right?

There's nothing I can do.

I mean, I can't like, I can, I can like

blockade you and I'll

take a bullet for you.

But I mean like bullets, it's not like

you can just stand at

your glass window and watch

what's going down.

People start shooting bullets.

Right.

Like we were like laying on the floor.

I know.

I was like, get down as far as you can.

Yeah.

And then you're like kind of peek up to

see like, are you still there?

Yep.

Still there.

Just a single shot to the head.

Oh my gosh.

Anyway, so yeah, I mean

everybody's got neighbor stories.

That's why, you know, it's fun to bring

up things that other

people can kind of think

through like, what are my neighbors and

the crazy people we lived with?

Right.

You know?

So that was that one.

Everybody else there was good.

In fact, some of the people that are

across the street, the

Wallace's other names, they're

up in Minnesota now.

They're super nice.

Super nice.

Wally would help me

because you were gone.

Yeah.

For a good portion of

like our first winter there.

Traveled a lot for the bank.

And so he would help me.

Oh, that's when I was

living in San Francisco.

We lived in San Francisco.

We moved into this.

So here's this.

This is insane.

Yes.

We moved into this house

like December, like 19th.

I don't know the actual

date, but close to that.

And then I was in a special

program at Wells Fargo, CMTP.

So it was a big deal at the time.

Now everybody goes through it, but it's a

big deal at the time

to get chosen for it.

And I, but it was five

months in San Francisco.

They relocated you to San Francisco and I

had to be there like January 6th.

I think was like my report date or

something like that.

So we knew this was coming.

The house was supposed to be finished by

like December 16th and they finished it.

We got in it like December 19th or

something like that,

but it was all white.

So I wanted to get some things in.

I got a house settled so

Meg, so you could be there.

So you could live there by yourself.

I mean, like from someone also that

enjoys things new, right?

You have no, I mean, you do know, because

I think I said it to

you, but it was so hard

to be like, we have a brand new house

that we've been building

for nine months or whatever

it was.

So excited.

And I don't get to break it in.

I get there.

I was literally in the house for seven

days, whatever it was, it

ended up being like seven

days.

That's it.

And I painted the entire two, uh, story

for a family room at that point in time.

I don't remember what else I did.

I got a couple of things ready and then I

was gone for five months.

So that's why I'm glad.

I was super nice guy.

I'm there still nice every now and then

they'll like Facebook.

Yeah.

We're friends with them on Facebook and

like, um, the people

behind us, actually all the,

all the neighbors other than, Oh, it

wasn't Michael and Evelyn.

It was Frank and Evelyn

other than Frank and Evelyn.

Um, like, we're still

friends with on Facebook.

Yeah.

So yeah, Sherry Mahoney was, you know,

so, oh, the Mahoney.

Yes.

Behind us.

He was an electrician.

She was super nice.

They had young kids similar to our age.

Yeah. Yeah.

I think they did very well in life.

Kendra Jordan was next door, you know, so

it's like, we knew we

actually had some really

good neighbors.

Frank and Evelyn obviously

had a troubled life, but.

Sands.

And we didn't have anybody across the

street because it wasn't even built.

It wasn't built.

But those were kind of on that other

street that was already built.

Yeah.

So we were there for, I

don't know, eight years.

We were there for a long time, seven

years, six years, five years, whatever.

I could do an app.

So something like that.

I'm going to say eight

years, something like that.

And then we relocated to the bank,

relocated me to back out to Colorado.

That's when we were on Al Roost.

And those neighbors were, you just take

our age at the time, times two.

And that was our neighbors.

We didn't fit in.

But one of them, we

still get Gary and Lou.

We get their Christmas card every year.

And they're one of the

ones that type it out.

Here's what's happening.

Oh.

Nicest people.

So sweet.

And she writes a handwritten

note to us every single time.

Because I sent her, I sent them a

Christmas card as well.

Yeah.

And oh my gosh.

Yeah.

Lou and Gary Colhane are sweetest people.

But they were really

the only people we knew.

Yeah.

On that entire street.

Yeah.

And everybody was twice our age.

And it was a neighborhood that didn't

have anybody our age.

No.

Our kids would not have been playing in

the street because

there were no children.

No.

Even though there was a park

literally across the street.

It was fantastic.

I loved that house.

We finished the basement in it.

We finished that whole house.

People probably thought, yeah.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

That's right.

We redid that whole house.

We redid the whole thing.

People had to think we were crazy though

because we had like a

three year old, a two year old

and then a newborn in that house.

A newborn.

We.

Our youngest was born in that house.

Yeah.

Our other two were

born in the other house.

Right.

The one that we were

just talking about in your.

Right.

We were just at that stage of life where

like, you know, as long

as we're having babies,

we may as well, you know, finish it up.

So anyways, I mean,

yeah, Al Roost was great.

We had a couple of neighbors there, a

couple that we just

didn't fit into and then down

here to Texas.

Yeah.

Right.

And we've been here for

literally almost, almost a decade.

Not almost.

Oh my gosh.

It's been over a decade.

Over a decade.

So we moved.

2015.

Yep.

We moved in February of, beginning of,

sorry, end of January 2015.

And we never thought, I mean, did you

ever think in a million

years you live in Texas?

No.

Me either.

Like, of all the places.

Yeah.

In fact, we joked when we had our

daughter, because her name,

if you were to put a Southern

accent with her name, it's

very Southern Belle sounding.

And so we're like, well, we can never

live in the South

because, you know, that's, that's

not really the intent of her name.

Well, guess what?

The irony is.

Yeah.

Here we are.

Well, we almost did because my

grandmother's name is Ava Nell.

Right.

And we almost named our daughter Ava

Belle, but we didn't.

Yeah.

Then it really would have been.

Which would have been very Texan.

Very Southern.

A cute little name, but she's definitely,

her name is definitely what she is.

Yes.

So.

Yeah.

And I don't think people say usually, you

know, because that

was her first and middle

name.

So I don't think they usually call her by

her first and middle name.

Things are all backwards here.

It was weird.

I mean, we never

thought we'd live in Texas.

You never thought that?

No.

I was born in Dallas.

Yeah.

Which is, which was the weird oddity.

So it's almost like, people are like,

like when I'm here, I

hate the question now when

I, when I live in Texas, people are like,

where were you born?

I'm like, Dallas.

With a huge caveat here.

I grew up in Colorado.

I consider myself a Colorado boy because

I lived in Colorado for 30 years.

Yeah.

And we moved to Colorado and I was like,

before I was a year old.

Yeah.

Right.

So I am not, I'm a Colorado boy.

So we're, so we moved to the other house,

I guess over a decade ago.

Yeah.

And that was a, that was really a pretty

nice neighborhood too.

That was a little bit of a

Sesame Street neighborhood.

It was the kids.

I mean, the kids played outside and

everyone was in the streets.

We lived in a cul-de-sac.

So we had a cul-de-sac at the end there.

We had the Urnsons and the Deepen Chinsos

right across from us.

Both of them our age, maybe a little bit,

a couple of years

older, maybe, but around,

I mean, we were the same age.

But kids our age, same stage of life.

And that was another Sesame Street.

That was a fun time.

It was.

And our kids had a blast.

It was the type of neighborhood that we

would send our kids outside.

Yes.

Our youngest and apologize to, it was the

Grisers who ended up bringing Liam home.

Sorry.

It was the Grisers who ended up bringing

our youngest home one time because he may

have gotten out, you

know, but without clothes.

Again, as a baby, as a 19 year old.

Anyway, you know, 19 now, it was just one

of those things

where, yeah, we would send

our kids out and they would play.

And it was the, those

were in and out all the time.

I almost look at those times like we were

young, like remember like Tony across the

way.

Yeah.

Right.

Like Tony, they moved too soon,

unfortunately, because they were great.

Yeah.

Tony and Kristen.

But I called him like my older brother.

Yeah.

Because like he played

basketball or Texas Tech.

Yeah.

He's a walk on, I think, there.

And then he took me a couple of times to

his gym and we'd

play, even though I hadn't

played a long time or whatnot.

He knew I was trying to play

as well as I could with them.

Like they were such fun people.

And then the Urnsons, like we went to a

ton of concerts with them.

We would do Halloween with them.

I mean, like, yeah, we really, you know,

had a nice little

couple of years of a nice

little Sesame Street situation.

We really did.

Yeah, we did.

And then we moved to this house.

Well, I'm just trying

to think, let's go back.

We're talking about neighbors.

I mean, not that we're dedicating this

whole show to basically

is dedicated to this to

neighbors at this

point, but so we knew them.

Yeah.

We had who was next to us?

Kara.

Oh, yeah, we had the care.

So we had the Helms and the Grisors.

Helms, the Helms and the Grisors.

Yeah.

The Grisors moved in a little bit later.

Super nice.

Oh, yeah.

People.

The Helms care.

Super nice.

Oh, my gosh.

So nice.

I know she was busy with

a whole bunch of stuff.

Her kids were a little bit older than us.

But how funny her

husband was like a ghost.

We never saw her.

I mean, like, I can't think of his name.

Robert.

Gosh, it's terrible.

But we never saw Robert every now and

then I'd see Robert and

be like, Hey, Robert, how

are you?

And he'd be like, Good.

They'd go in.

Remember?

So Robert's father.

Oh, Bill Bob.

Bob lived in the house.

Bob was great for a while.

Bob all the time.

But he was chatty.

Oh, gosh.

Bob was amazing.

He was super nice.

Yeah.

So nice.

But we never saw Robert.

There was some.

Like, so we saw his dad.

Some.

I think he was just busy with career.

I think he was like an I think he was a

radio voice for real estate.

He did this thing.

Like he did this kind of stuff before

this money was like a

yeah, before it was a

thing.

Yeah, he wasn't he was a real estate.

I was in real estate.

Yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

Nice people.

Super nice.

Yeah.

So that was that was a fun.

But that was the reason.

But you talk about neighborhoods, though,

that neighborhood had

that was our first, I

think, HOA.

Yeah.

And the HOA.

That's no bueno.

Com Sean.

Yeah.

That was an issue.

So at some point, we put a pool house in

our backyard and we

did some changes in the

backyard, all of which I went through the

proper channels and

since stuff to the HOA

and got it pre-approved everything.

But here's just a side

side note on that one.

So we built this pool house in the

backyard that matched

the architecture of our

house, which was a French Chateau type.

Yes.

But along the way, while we were just

building it, I made this

one because it had like a

what do you call that thing?

It was like a tower or a turret.

It had like a tower, but the tower is

going to have a cone on

it because it matched blah,

blah, blah.

But along the way to make it fun, I made

it into like a castle tower.

So for the kids, because I designed it so

you could get up there.

So it was like 20 feet high.

And that's I always think it's fun to

have you like a lookout tower type thing.

So I made it fun for

the kids to get up there.

Well, oh, God, the HOA saw

that we had a castle tower.

By the way, it's

clearly, clearly not finished.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, it was I had a hardy board right

on the outside of it.

Right.

And they knew the final finish was stone.

So I had hardy board.

Actually, it was flexible hardy board

because it was on a curve.

So I had we had the HOA like they brought

everybody in their

mom just knocking on our

door, walking through our house,

demanding to see the backyard.

Because he had a

fiduciary responsibility.

Oh, my God.

He sent me the email.

I have a fiduciary duty to this

neighborhood to

preserve the architectural.

You know, are you kidding me?

Oh, my gosh, it was.

Yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

We only like to talk about people.

Like if we're going to say something nice

about someone, we'll say their name.

Yeah, I want to talk smack about.

But oh, he was insane.

Yeah, I was like from that moment.

I'm like, I'm not going to live here long

term because that guy,

he was the classic HOA

president or whatever he was.

And like beside our

driveway and like tried it.

Oh, yeah.

We could see them from our we would look

out of our our

windows in the front of the

house. You could see him down the street

like trying to peek into our backyard,

trying to look over, trying to see what's

happening in our backyard.

And that was that was the seed.

Yeah, that was the seed that was like,

I'm not going to live here.

There is no way I'm not going to be

exposed to someone like

that who could tell me what

to do in my life.

I'm a grown man.

Right.

There's no way I'm going to let someone

like that tell me what I can do.

Especially within the

scopes of the rules.

I am a full roll rule follower.

That's exactly right.

You approved it already.

I'm going to finish it the way I said I

was going to approve it.

I did something fun for the kids in the

meantime while we're building it.

And you guys had to have a issue.

Yeah, like I was crazy.

So we set the record with the highest

cell in that neighborhood.

And we built this house.

You're welcome.

Yeah.

And good riddance.

All right.

Clearly, I hold a lot.

That guy but but it just does it does bug

me when people

leverage the smallest amount

of influence that they have.

Yeah, in a negative way.

Yes.

And this was this was an HOA president.

Like give me a break.

I know.

Like there's a way to handle this.

But if you want to handle

it like you're, you know,

a mob boss, bringing

down the weight on me.

You know what I mean?

It's the craziest thing.

Oh my gosh.

Quote Taylor Swift.

Never wield such power.

You forget to be polite.

I'm gonna I'm gonna quote Justin Bieber

and say go love yourself.

All right.

That's it.

Where are we at?

Where are we at here?

We're getting now I'm getting long.

Well, we're back at school.

Yes, back into the regular.

I guess schedule.

We are.

How's it feel for you?

It's a weird being here.

I've been been

working away from the house.

Right.

For the last week and

a half or two weeks.

So you're here all alone

right now, which is odd.

I'm not I'm not the I'm not the other

person in the other office in the house.

I know.

If we have to email each other, it's

always like, I love you says

the person in the back of the,

you know, in the office

at the back of the house.

Yeah.

Um.

The office around the corner.

It's it's strange.

It's so quiet.

Yeah.

Um, I like it to some degree, but

there's some good things about it.

But at the same time, I miss I miss it.

Like having someone else there, it does

help that the dog does

not leave my side all day.

You know, but yeah, it's just

back to the regular routine.

It's, you know, he goes zero to 60 from

the moment you wake up.

545 to 11 p.m.

You just go.

We lost an hour of sleep because we have

to get up at 545, which is fine.

Because when we were in

Chicago, speaking of Chicago,

Oh, my gosh.

We had to train in town.

I mean, that was a four.

What time?

I think we got up at 455.

455.

Okay.

Yeah.

It's not a good thing when

your alarm has a four on it.

Yeah.

Regular work day.

For regular work day.

Gets the train in town.

So yeah, so 545 doesn't sound horrible,

but it's only, but it's

less than an hour later.

Right.

And we're definitely

not going to bed till 11.

Because we can't go to bed.

We don't even get home till 10 almost.

Right.

From soccer practice.

So it's just like, yeah, there is no

chance to go to bed earlier.

Yeah.

Which it was canceled tonight.

Hints.

We're midweek.

Stored you always use sipping and vibing.

And vibing.

We're midweek and vibing.

To with me can bib.

That doesn't work.

I don't think so.

I don't know.

I'm really confused by that one.

All right.

Well, what do we have coming up?

Anything?

You know, I think this weekend is

actually quiet, but I mean,

starting next week, weekend,

we're going to be

traveling a ton over the fall.

Soccer.

For soccer.

Yeah.

So Austin, Colorado, I know.

Austin, Colorado, San Diego.

We got a San Diego too.

Houston.

I don't think Atlanta, I think

Indianapolis is in the spring.

Florida's more spring.

I mean, it's like insane.

Interesting.

Well, that just means

we'll have some on location.

Helping us.

Location.

The good thing is though, is that our

boys are usually playing

away at the same location.

So like both boys are playing in Austin

and both boys are playing in Colorado.

Yeah.

So that helps.

All right.

Well, I guess we're coming up on the time

that we do our word

of what this week was.

I got mine.

I've got mine.

Ready?

One, two, three.

Exhausting.

Oh, that's pretty close.

I don't want to open a cheer.

Cheers and, hold on, let's do this.

We're going to do a

cheers and a high five.

Oh, that's only

happening because we've been bit.

We've been bit.

Yeah, the exact same feeling.

We'll get caught up.

We'll get used to it again.

We will.

But it's very exhausting right now.

It's exhausting.

Your parents are supposed to come down at

some point too, right?

Yeah.

So we'll try to fit that in.

We'll try to fit that in.

That'll be great.

Yeah.

We love having people.

You do.

We just let them, just

bring them into the fold.

Anybody that visits us

knows like, "Hey, come on in.

You're going to be going to a soccer game

with us if you want

to spend time with us."

Heck yeah.

There's just no time.

Because we ain't never home.

Just get it there.

Did I just say ain't?

Nothing's ever been more

eloquent out of your mouth.

Yeah, that was odd.

It was not you.

It's not like you.

It's been a long time.

It's been a long Wednesday of the day.

All right.

Well, it's Friday,

even so it's good news.

Oh, good news.

I like that.

All right.

Look at that.

Well, let's, I guess

we'll sign off then, right?

We will.

Okay.

Should I do mine first?

What are you going to do?

My regular now.

First? Okay, you go first and I'll go after you.

All right.

My regular is just-

I thought we did it at the same time.

Okay, let's do it.

Okay, we're going to,

okay, with no countdown on us.

We're just going to

say thanks for joining.

Thanks for, thanks,

thanks for checking us out.

We always appreciate you guys.

Ciao ciao.

Oh, you win.

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