get rid of all your candles, all
your perfumes, all your Yankee
candles, it's hard because they are
addictive, they're designed to be
but the problem, the consequence of
that, they carry phthalates with them,
which are highly carcinogenic, hormone
disrupting, testosterone disrupting,
endocrine disrupting, lead to infertility,
Welcome back to the Inspired
Living with Autoimmunity podcast.
I'm your host, Julie Michelson.
And today we're joined by Warren
Phillips, the non toxic dad.
Warren is a passionate and energetic
individual, and he lives by his words
and works tirelessly to educate the
world about avoiding and removing toxins.
In today's conversation, we're talking
about greenwashing as a marketing tactic.
the impact of chemical fragrance,
and some of the latest research and
studies on toxins that may surprise you.
Warren also shares new research
about a recent study on marijuana
and hemp products and heavy metals.
warren, welcome to the podcast.
It's a pleasure to be here.
This is going to be so fun.
I had such an honor to meet you at.
Um, at Health Experts Alliance, right?
And you're a health
expert and we hit it off.
And now here we are,
we did indeed.
And I I've been waiting
for this interview.
my team told me this lady is so excited.
You know, she's like, get me in.
And I'm like, I, I, and
I'm like, that's Julie.
Like she's full of
me while you, you know, it's contagious.
And so it's, I said earlier today, you
know, I'm interviewing Warren today.
I need to bring it because
his energy is amazing.
That was, so is yours.
That's why we hit it off so well.
So I, I give you that same compliment.
So let's have some fun.
This is going to be a powerful podcast.
I'm
It's going to be great.
And the reason I'm so excited is because
I know what you share, although you
always, you're always ahead of the curve.
So you always have new information.
I'm excited to learn from
you along with listeners.
But first I want to start for, you
know, there might be two people out
there that do not know non toxic dad.
So how did Warren Phillips
become non toxic dad?
Share your story with us.
you want the three minute, five
minute or eight minute version?
Ooh, not eight.
Let's go through your five.
Three, three to five minutes.
So it'll make it fun, right?
So, uh, always love the
environment outdoors, big hearted
young kids, sensitive, right?
Went to graduate school, undergrad, pre
med, got into geology, environmental
science, double major, chemistry, went
on to graduate school, Still in that
same mode, cleaning up the environment.
I did my master's works on a binding
of heavy metals and soils and streams.
Uh, all the contamination that's
happening, which I still am
super passionate about, right?
If you kick Mother Nature's ass,
she's gonna kick yours, right?
If you kick your body ass with toxins,
it's gonna and disease and dysfunction.
Yeah.
So, um, it's a math problem.
So I was cleaning that stuff up
and then I got into environmental
consulting in Missoula, Montana.
A river runs through it.
I was fly fishing, doing all the fun
things that a young, single, energetic
ex all American athlete would do.
Right.
Just living life to the fullest.
Very spiritual at the time as well.
And, but over time, just like all of
us, the toxins that build up every
day that you're not getting rid
of, start to fill up your buckets,
causing retoxification, recirculation
of toxins in your body, causing more
inflammation, more hormone disruption,
triggering autoimmune conditions.
And to the point where I had a
mercury, uh, exposure, um, on
a mercuric oxide cleanup site.
I also had a pretty nasty lead
exposure because I didn't wear my
PPE, my personal protective equipment,
which we're now all familiar with
because thanks to, thanks to the vid.
So everybody knows what personal
protective equipment is.
So in that process, I, I got sick
to the point where I had to quit
my job, sell my home and move back.
to my parents basement.
Some of the symptoms were a lot of the
mercury symptoms like abnormal shyness,
random muscle twitching, eyelid twitching,
anxiety, uh, that, that I would just
lock up and couldn't do anything.
Um, that when I moved home, I
moved into a moldy basement.
So now I had Heavy, a lot of heavy metal.
And I think I'd had
some mold looking back.
I remember some black mold in my home, uh,
in, um, that I sold in Missoula, Montana,
but my parents live in Pennsylvania
where it's wet on a side of a hill,
so that humidity was over 50 percent
in that home, which is the trigger.
If you have a humidity of 50%, Free gift.
Even if you don't see
mold, you have mold, right?
There's levels that might not
have stachybacteria, but you're
gonna have aspergillus or some
mold growing in your home.
All it needs is that there's plenty of
food around and dust and drywall dust
and dirt from construction growing.
So here I am, mold.
It gets worse.
Full blown chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia,
weight gain into obesity, 210 pounds.
Medical doctors, I've already seen a
bunch of psych therapists and medical
doctors and chiropractors in Missoula.
I continue on that path.
My parents think that I'm
just, you know, off my rocker.
And this is 2005.
None of this stuff existed.
There wasn't no mold
summit or Lyme summit.
There.
illness, like this stuff
didn't exist, right?
Mold illness wasn't even a thing until a
little bit later, um, and Richie Shoemaker
is the one that, um, kind of brought that
to the world from Pocomoke, Maryland.
So I came home super sick, knowing
that I, it could have been the
toxins, like in the, you know,
I have a gut feeling, right?
Right.
That's the true genius, even Einstein
says that, um, women have it because
I think they're more heart connected a
lot of the time, no offense dudes, um,
But women kind of train
themselves out of listening to it.
Yeah, we've talked about that,
yeah.
Yeah.
And so, there's this gut feeling,
and I'm like, oh, I'm toxic, right?
I mean, it could have been, I thought
it was arsenic, um, cause there was just
no information, there was no internet.
I mean, the best book you could find is
that guy who went to jail, it was like
the 50, 50, 50 things that are making
you sick, or 50, the natural cures guy.
Um,
Oh, oh, yep.
I mean, I was reading his book, right?
I, I, I didn't know, right?
I'm like reading his
book, like getting stuff.
Cause I was 25 years old and sick.
So keep fast forwarding.
Um, I thought it was heavy metals,
um, might've been lime cause
lime in Pennsylvania was a thing.
And then.
You know, met Dr.
Dan, he's like, you're heavy metal
poisoned, I'm like, oh my gosh, I think
you're right, this is what I thought in my
gut, had to get, pull some research, um,
from universities, on microfiche, print
it out, like, oh, this, this can be real,
investigated Malcolm, Malcolm Fillings,
and how much mercury is released.
Uh, call labs for my old job
in Idaho confirming that the
dental wastewater is loaded.
So all that to say I got found
out, finally found the cause, got
really upset about that cause, and
I'm still not non toxic dad yet.
So I started my career, I moved from
environmental consultant, turned
jobs down in Pennsylvania to work in
clinics, And help other doctors expand
their impact because I believe toxins
is the root cause of many of the
health challenges and why I was sick
and literally it took me five years.
It was a great place to work, right?
Because I'm working with people
that didn't think I was crazy.
I was able to relate to clients and
patients and, you know, feel their
pain and, you know, from autistic
side of the world and just really
understand and I had healing and
helping and that's how I got into that.
And then As I transitioned out of
that just last year, 18 years of, of
practitioner coaching, um, and all that, I
decided, you know what, um, maybe I should
see, you know, how to test the waters.
And I, and I trained up a lot of
other doctors to go out there and
become, you know, take your message.
Like your, your heart is good.
You're going to do well.
You're, you're authentic, like, you
know, you shouldn't, you know, being
small is not helping the world.
Yeah, and so I had someone challenge me
to do the same and they said, how would
you ever know if you don't try right?
So I did that about a year ago
in March is when I officially
started non toxic dad and
Happy almost anniversary tomorrow.
thank you And so this is that's that's
the journey and ultimately it's I
couldn't believe like you heard me
share from stage I believe I couldn't
believe the impact that you can have
through social media, which I boohooed
And canceled, you know, over the, you
know, and I still feel that social
media is, is poisonous to our brains.
Um, if, if not managed, just
like anything else, right.
Or whatever else, but, um,
it does have a big impact.
It is, it is changing lives.
So that definitely fuels me and my,
you know, I'm almost 50, so we're,
we're starting to grow up, right.
You
Almost.
I don't know.
I've hung out with you.
I don't know about starting to grow up,
but, um, you know, as a practitioner
from that side of it and having listened
to you on stage and you do help those
of us that have been hiders, you know,
get out and share their message more
because I don't love social media.
I don't even like it for personal use.
Um, but it is, it is an important
and impactful way to reach people
and, you know, if they're getting
the crap, they might as well
also get the good information.
Um, and this is how we create change.
This is why we're here
today talking about it
You can't reach millions of people.
Like I would have to own a TV channel
to get this kind of, uh, opportunity.
and then I don't even, you know, watch TV.
I, we watch very little.
yeah, it's very, very selective.
Selective, um, which is how we,
as you said, can and should be
with our social media as well.
And what I do love is you bring your
message in a way that is so fun.
Um, I shared before we hit record, I
was chatting with my 24 year old on,
as I was coming home from the clinic
today and told her we were going
to be recording and she was talking
about, you know, one of your reels.
So I love your, you just.
To me, this is, you're preaching
to the choir when we talk, this
is such an important topic.
Literally every person I work with,
whether they have autoimmunity
or not, has a toxic burden issue.
Definitely if they have
autoimmunity, they do.
Um, and so it is a component, even if it's
not, you know, it's never the only thing.
Um, but if we're not managing our
toxins and doing that by getting
educated and making good choices, um,
you know, we're not going to heal.
And I love, I have such a
hard time picturing you, you
know, overweight and shy.
Um, you
Abnormally shot.
I'm not right.
You, you are literally the, the
picture of a, of a healthy male.
So, um, all of us can heal.
That's how the body is designed.
We, but we need to be, we
really need to be diligent.
So, uh, I'm excited to dig in.
Um, and I know I promised I wasn't
going to keep you for three hours,
so I want to just start with.
What is new?
Because you are, you are
a researcher at heart.
You are very science based.
And then again, you bring the fun in.
And I know you're always ahead
of the curve and, and bringing
us new information, hopefully
in a way that isn't scary.
Um, because I know
to, but like the diaper one,
I came out pretty hardcore.
Cause there was a new study done on
diapers and I just watched the video.
I'm like, I came off a little
angry in that one, right?
Because I don't, never want to come
off angry because I don't think that's
going to serve, it'll serve maybe
my audience, but it's not going to
serve those who, yeah, they're going
to be like, hmm, that guy's angry.
I'm not going to listen
to that, even if he was.
So I watched it.
I'm like, darn it.
But it was about diapers, right?
And there's new 2023 or even 2024.
It might, I can't remember, but I printed
out the study and actually have the
study in my hand when I do the video.
But there's so many VOCs in, um,
inside of, uh, diapers, right?
Um, and that can cause respiratory
issues, lead into asthma.
Obviously, VOCs are, are toxic.
They contain carcinogens,
known, um, carcinogens.
volatile is the first word of VOCs,
Well, yeah volatile, but you
know essential oils are volatile
organic compounds too, right?
And they have healing properties,
but too much too, you know, but these
are volatile bad toxins We're talking
petroleum based volatile organic compounds
VOC's and So that's to your points.
Like I always try to come from
my heart, but sometimes And and
funny and make light because none
of this is is out to shame, right?
Because I, I just had to
work through all that stuff.
I was raised Catholic and
nothing wrong with Catholicism.
Actually, the older I get, the more beauty
you can see in some of the rituals and
the meditative state that it creates,
gets you into your God brain, if you will.
So there's lots of beautiful
things as you, as you heal in your
age, you look at things, uh, not
to blame, but to learn, right?
That's two different mindsets.
But what really shocked me Uh, and
it really upset me and I, and I
can't believe they're getting away
with this, but fragrances, right?
And this is a, something that I think
will be really helpful to the moms out
there is that fragrances, according
to, I found another study as I was
digging through all that research.
Is that there's a study that says that
it's the unconsolable crying of a child
Can be triggered and caused and I think
it was something crazy like a 50 increase
in this study from chemical fragrances
Right, and they put them even in diapers
to cover the poo smell But they all
these fun scents that we're doing with
our babies could be causing our little
loved ones to cry And so how can these
companies get away seeing that research?
You Putting chemical fragrance
into, uh, the, the wipes and
the diapers and maybe even the
it's, I feel like
or you have perfume on as a mom
and your baby's smells like perfume
cause you hold them and they're
just so annoyed from this chemical.
Cause it's a neurotoxin, a known
neurotoxin, a known carcinogen,
but anyway, that's a new one.
Well, and that, okay, so we're
gonna, we're gonna visit that
rabbit hole a little bit.
Um, and, and this is a very personal
opinion, it's not, you know, it
would be a disservice not to get
angry because the angry, you know,
that, you don't want to stay angry.
We got to move through that.
Um, but I find, even with.
And this isn't new.
The baby study I have never heard of.
Um, and it doesn't surprise me
No, it's not
because, because babies aren't
filtering the reaction, right?
They're just reacting.
Um, it's not new news.
The, the chemical fragrance is, is toxic.
And what I have seen is more and like
they're putting fragrance and things, why
In food boxes, like
food boxes, Amazon packages, um,
even literally a grocery bag,
a plastic grocery bag scented.
Um, I don't understand the garbage
Well,
and it just smells like
garbage and scent fragrance.
it's like, yeah, shit and fragrance.
So here's the, here's the
reason I believe why, right?
Um, scents just like perfumes, chemical
fragrances, artificial flavors, all
manufactured by large billion dollar
companies like gibbon, um, and they,
they create them to be addictive.
The taste.
Right to be addictive the
smell to be addictive So why
do you think w has the w scent?
is because when you come there you
experience that you smell that scent
and they hired a Chemical fragrance
manufacturer to create a signature
scent that they're like, hey, we want
people to be addicted We want them to
go home and smell the w scent and you
can't get rid of that stuff Like it's
it's you come home your brain shuts off.
You know, it can handle so many bits
of information So you don't smell it
as much you smell it, but it's You
come home to your house and you set
your, you set your baggage down, your,
your bags from travel, and they reek.
And you have to wash your clothes
twice just to get it out, right?
And if you wash one shirt from,
that was sitting in the room with
the W scent, it ruins your washer
load.
Oh my gosh.
That just happened to me.
It wasn't a, it wasn't a W experience.
We were in the UK and my beautiful human
of a partner threw some laundry in at
the Airbnb, which was, I mean, we want
to talk about what you could see them.
My, it was.
We were in the UK in the winter.
It was moldy.
Um, and he didn't, he, I brought detergent
with me, but there was so much fragrance.
I literally, I got rid of the clothes.
I had a brand new shirt.
I'd worn it once.
He washed it there.
Could not get the smell out.
I got rid of it.
I just couldn't
would, it's, you wouldn't be
able to for like four or five
washings, and it would have been,
No,
you're going to enjoy your trip.
I tried.
Well, no way.
I tied the, you know, anyway, so
sometimes it's not even a nice fragrance,
but our olfactory sense is taught
is the strongest tie to our memory.
That's why they're doing it.
Right.
So you may not even be conscious or aware
of it, but when you walk back in, like you
said, it's going to trigger that memory.
Um, really, really powerful stuff
and see, now I'm getting fired.
Because
No problem.
Let's go.
and I'll, I'll say this for listeners,
if you're like, Oh yeah, you know, I,
I had somebody just say to me two days
ago, Oh yeah, I asked, is she, is she
sensitive to fragrance and chemicals?
And she said, I am, I noticed the older
I get and I'm like, well, it's not really
age is that your toxic burden is higher.
Um, and so if you're someone who's
listening and you're like, yeah, I'm
sensitive, it's, this is why it's
because it's, it's a toxin issue.
Um, and.
of the big ones.
It is.
And I, I, about myself,
I'm a collector as well.
I, this is why we get along.
Lead, mercury, mycotoxins,
um, is my history.
And, and I do, I look back and I'm like,
I was that person who, you know, I had
Pier 1 candles all over my house, like
my poor kids when they were growing up.
It's a big, big change.
Like if we're talking about like, if
you want like a big one, get rid of all
your candles, all your perfumes, all
your Yankee candles, it's hard because
going back to what you said before, they
are addictive, they're designed to be.
You love them because they designed
them in a chemical manufacturer.
They beta tested, they spent
millions of dollars to make
sure that you get addicted.
So.
If you want to be manipulated that way,
you are, and that's your choice, because
you love it, um, you enjoy it, but it's,
it's not natural, and they're, they
create them for you to be addictive, but
the problem, the consequence of that,
they carry phthalates with them, which
are highly carcinogenic, carcinogenic,
hormone disrupting, testosterone
disrupting, endocrine disrupting, lead
to, you know, infertility, like, right?
Uh,
autoimmunity, like, I
And autoimmunity.
So, um, and then the carcinogenic
nature of, uh, these chemicals.
So there's just really no
upside besides you like it, so
and, but there are alternatives.
tons.
I like things that smell nice, also.
I just use really clean essential oils.
And it, you know, it can still
make me feel really happy.
I agree.
it's good stuff.
While I'm still charged up.
So that then I can settle
down after this next topic.
Um, I want to talk about greenwashing.
It's something that I've touched on
really briefly before and, and I think
that I know that listeners will get a lot
of value hearing what you have to say.
First of all, even just starting with what
is greenwashing and why should we care?
Yeah.
Greenwashing, uh, in a lot
of respects is marketing.
So the green movement has.
Some great sides to it, right?
But the Green Movement, people look at
it and be like, Oh, the environment.
Oh.
And so they use that to their advantage.
Because we're, I love talking on
this topic because I'm talking to
the kind hearted humans right now
that care about animals, that care
about the environment, that love
people, that are sensitive, right?
And so a lot of the times they're
not even doing it for health reasons.
Their first initial thing is, wow, this is
a green, environmentally friendly product.
Wow.
This is wonderful.
So they're using greenwashing is
persuading you that it's environmentally
friendly and non toxic yet.
It may not be non toxic or
environmentally friendly.
So let's look at not all method products.
are horrible, but some of them are.
Like if you go to EWG, they're derated.
And there's a couple chemicals in
there that are not environmentally
friendly, are not non toxic, yet
they're a green label, right?
And they have in some of their products
chemical fragrance, which is not green
by any stretch of the imagination.
You can't say environmentally friendly and
chemical fragrance in the same sentence.
And especially with animals, right?
I've had Glade plug ins with
people that have birds multiple
times and their birds don't sing.
My birds don't sing.
Take the canary out in the coal mine.
Take the, the Glade freshener out.
Now my bird's tweeting again.
Because it's messing with
that bird's neurology.
It's toxic to the environment.
Right?
When you're blowing, uh, fragrance
from your dryer sheets, out into your
environment, um, even if it's the
eco friendly ones and it's fragrance
because they have those, right?
They're eco friendly and
they're green, but they contain
fragrance and other chemicals.
So that's greenwashing.
So it's, it's manipulating you, persuading
you to buy something that at giving
it the green label, putting the green
on there, environmentally friendly,
but it's not non toxic and it's not
necessarily environmentally friendly.
They might have some more
environmentally friendly ingredients.
Um, but not all of them are, right?
So that's the greenwashing movement.
And then to add to that, it
all comes down to marketing.
They're trying to grab market share from
people who want to help the environment.
Right?
So most of your big box stores,
there is some good brands that make
it into, uh, bigger grocery stores.
They're typically going
to be on the bottom shelf.
Um, some of them make it
up depending on the brand.
But
Or they get, you know,
a foot of shelf space,
yeah, there's only one of their products
in there, because, but the greenwashing
ones kind of do pretty well, because
they have the money, they have the
backing, and they're owned, um, typically
they've been bought out, they started
off, a lot of these companies started
off green, environmentally friendly,
yeah, and no, no preservatives, but
you're talking self life, you're talking
worldwide distribution, so of course we
gotta add, you know, preservatives and
toxins to keep this stuff shelf life,
it's just no brainer for them, right?
I mean, how can they have
Global domination, right?
The CEOs, we're going to take over
the, the, the cleaning movement.
And there was a study
done, um, just recently.
It's a, might even been a 20, yeah,
it was a 2024 study, uh, that they
compared the green label products
to standard cleaning products.
And the amount of toxins and
volatile organic compounds,
once again, were the same same.
So, they're no better, but
they're just using the green, the
green label, the greenwashing.
The study concluded that essentially they
shouldn't be able to do this.
Yeah, so, they're no better, so we
need to have better regulations on
this marketing and the things that
they're doing, and it's, and it's, Green
labeling, but not non toxic and what,
and it comes down to market share, right?
So they're, they're attaching green
and environmental, and you think you're
doing the right thing for yourself,
for your family, for your kids.
You hear about these toxins,
but if you flip it over and you
can't understand the ingredients.
Thank you.
then you know right away that this,
I don't understand this, this isn't
transparent, this is confusing, and
I see fragrance perfume run away.
If it says fragrance 100 percent derived
from, you know, essential, you know,
But then it wouldn't even say fragrant.
Like, they know better
than to even use the word.
That is one of my other huge, and this
is why, and then I'll simmer down.
This is, what you said is
why this makes me angry.
Because also from personal experience,
but and clients coming in thinking
they're using non toxic products,
they fell for the marketing.
And it's one thing if you're, if
you're not there yet, and you're
not paying attention, different,
you know, but to try to capture.
This part of the consumers that that
is trying to make a good choice for
their family and they're getting
duped and and I did it for years.
I used a product that, you know, a
line that I thought was clean for
my family because I was learning.
And, um, so that's why I get
really, really upset and and
to take it a step further.
This is how far some of the companies go.
They'll say essential oils on the front.
And so they may have some
essential oils in it.
Turn it around because they
also often have chemical
Shampoos are horrible at that.
Because they're looking for a non
fragrance, because people know fragrance.
They see it on the front.
That stops them.
That got the yes, because we're busy.
We're busy moms.
We're busy dads.
Oh, look at that.
Or they put unscented.
And unscented isn't fragrance free.
Unscented has another chemical
that covers the scent.
say that again because people look at me
like I have three heads when I say this.
Because it just doesn't even
make sense, but it's true.
it's, it's, it's labeling, marketing,
you know, it's not fragrance free because
they can't say that legally, but they
can legally say unscented because they
put a chemical to make it unscented.
So it doesn't have the soap smell
or the, the chemical soap smell.
So they put in another chemical
to neutralize the smell
and they call it unscented.
And we think it's fragrance free.
Again, we think we're doing something
that's good for our families.
My kid is sensitive to fragrances.
I notice that they get a skin
irritation or whatever, and it
could, because fragrances do
cause skin irritation, right?
It's one of the, one of the side effects.
Um, probably the phthalates or who
knows, it could be, it could be 150
different chemicals that go into one
concoction of a fragrance, right?
Right.
And so, you know, that's what we get.
Like natural flavors.
It's the catch all.
Just don't do it.
It could be anything in
Yeah, I've gotten rid of all natural
flavors and there are some good natural
flavor companies out there that people
put natural flavors But if you're
really digging into that level you
would say what that natural flavor
is it derived from organic whatever
you can label transparently, right
And they're not so you, someone who's
into it, a small company and all these
companies that are out there, you, they
will, they know, like, they're like us.
So they're like, I created this
company because my daughter was sick.
I was sick of the greenwashing and they
took that energy, that anger, if you
will, filtered it and, and channeled it
into and fueled into something great.
And that's what energy is like
something bad happens to you.
You, you're negative at first,
and then you relabel that neutral
happening to something positive.
It.
So that's what sickness can be too.
It can be your fuel, um,
To make the changes.
yep.
And that's what, if you remove some
toxins, you can get some energy, um,
I love it.
the energy back.
Their energy robbers, uh,
fragrance is a big one.
I, I want to always end, end this
part of the conversation on a positive
note because what we just said could
be really overwhelming for people
because we just basically said,
you know, you have to dig in and
don't trust, you know, the labeling.
So how, do you have a resource
you recommend to people when
I mean, I, I think
EWG um, updates their
database pretty good.
Um, there's some good, uh,
apps out there as well.
I can't remember some of them.
There's a couple really good ones.
I like, um, Yeah, YUKA, Y U K A, Y U K
A is, is one that's a good one, YUKA.
What I like about them is they give you
alternatives, you know, like, oh, here's
I've been, actually, someone
shared that app with me and
they actually reached out to me.
But I, I haven't looked into it
and, but I've heard it a lot now.
There was a guy that I was.
I was working on my truck and he
knew I was crazy because I was
like, I need a non toxic glue.
Uh huh,
you don't have one.
I'm like, here's one that's
carb, this certified, no VOC,
da, da, da, da use this glue.
And he's like, you're
really into this stuff.
I'm like, yes, I am.
You know?
And he's like, you would like the UK app.
Um, I just
you go.
I just scanned, what was it?
That the little, uh, launchables.
Oh,
all these toxins that they don't even tell
you that are in the Lunchables, right?
And I want to do a video on that.
So you just reminded me that was
there you go.
idea trigger.
I want to, I want to dig deep dive
in Lunchables because moms are giving
Lunchables and thinking that it's healthy.
And again, it's easy.
Right.
You
Well, and speaking of easy, so I too, I
love EWG, um, as a, as another reference
point, and they have an app as well.
Um, I like personally, because unlike you,
this stuff lights a fire under me and I
know this is top priority for wellness,
but I don't want to spend all day
researching every product all the time.
And so that's where back to EWG.
I like companies that are EWG
certified because, you know,
they're not making this thing that's
dirty and this thing that's clean.
And, and I feel like
And the owner of Made Safe, I know
her, she, she had a daughter that got
sick and she was sick as a child as
well, and so she created, she invested
a lot of money, like, this isn't,
um, a money maker for her, right?
This is a mission and a
passion, it's a non profit.
Um, the amount of work.
I wanted to do something similar and I'm
like, wow, like after talking to her and
hearing her story, um, looking at the
path that she took, I'm like, this is
a tough path and it's hard to get, you
know, and she's not non toxic dad, right?
She's not, she, you know, she's not, uh,
a mom.
there.
She's putting all of our time into
creating, uh, this certification.
And she's not marketing it, right?
Although there's a lot of companies
that are now using her and Marie's
skin cares when it comes to mine.
You could eat their stuff
before it was made safe.
But, um, there's just a lot of
And I just happen to know them.
They're a friend.
I'm not affiliated by any, any means
with any of these companies, but I
think she does a good job and EWG
does a good job and you know, X, Y, Z.
Maybe I'll be doing a
good job someday when I,
Well, and that's the beautiful thing is
there are more and more resources that
those of us lay people can use to check
our products and to make good choices,
but even simpler than that may help you
find the clean thing, which might not be
at your grocery store, your local grocery
store, depending on where you live, just
take Warren's first sentence, which is,
Turn, turn it around, turn the box around,
turn the bottle around and read the back
and just don't fall for the marketing.
It's like, even with food, if it
says, you know, natural or healthy
or like, uh, uh, don't, don't do it.
I literally saw vegetables
labeled as vegan.
I'm not even kidding you.
And like, okay.
they're trying, cause
it's a buzzword right now.
Right.
And that's why there's,
there's big battles online and,
you know, it's silly to me.
It's a big waste of energy.
And, you know, so the other thing, the
other tip that I like to think about,
if you couldn't drink that product.
Um, and not make you sick then.
So think about that.
That's the standard.
If you can look at it and it says, uh,
well, some of these like lip bombs have,
you know, a poison warning on them, right?
You couldn't eat it.
Well, or toothpaste.
Talk about poison warnings.
We put
so if you can't eat it, there's
better options out there for you,
especially if it has a poison warning
label, like, this stuff can kill you,
um, and it can, just don't do it.
Why would you put it on your body?
Like, it makes no sense.
Why would you spray it on your,
you know, uh, to clean, right?
When you can use vinegar and baking
soda for abrasive, you can just use
your eggshells and grind them up
in a blender, like, You can save
yourself all this money and time and
then you're they're lying to you.
So just make your own stuff.
D Y I for do it yourself.
D I Y.
Uh, I always mix that up.
My Y and my
It sounded right to me.
I'm glad you, well,
that's all we use, right?
Is, is vinegar and vinegar and water
and my house smells like vinegar.
You can boil some lemon peels or
in there and to get rid of that.
So it's, it's, It is the,
it is the place to go.
And I could drink that, right?
It'd be a nice vinegar
Yeah.
Well, and I have an aversion
to the smell of vinegar.
So that, so for those that are
listening, that are like me, you're
never going to be DIYing with vinegar.
Can you do, have you tried
like boiling lemon and
I just, um, I use a product
called lavender hydrosol, and
it's that I and you can use it
from counter to floor everywhere.
And I love it.
And so,
is it create an oxidative
reaction species?
Cause you're saying hydrosol.
I'm thinking that it has
some sort of oxidizer in it
oh, I don't know, I might ask
you to dig into that for me.
I, you know, I sort I've been
to the lavender farm that makes.
this product.
Um, and so see, and even
that's the other thing.
Sometimes it's a swing and a miss.
So now I'm gonna, you know,
find out more about that.
You may get me to use vinegar yet.
We'll see.
But there are companies out there.
If you are not a DIY or I made my own
detergent one time, it didn't work well.
It was not good.
This was also probably 15 years ago.
Um, so I, I'm not great at the DIY.
That's, that's not my,
Yeah, we, we, we do it just on
the cleaning product for the
Well, and I think it, which is awesome.
But the good news is for those of us
that aren't, that aren't doing it.
Um, we, there are companies out
there that, that have good products.
And vinegar smell is real.
That's real.
That's real for people.
Well, and the funny thing is, I
love, you know, balsamic, I cook
with vinegar, apple cider vinegar.
I'll use balsamic sometimes, but, um, I
just, the white vinegar, I can't do it.
Never clean, I couldn't clean my coffee
pot with it back when I used to use
a plastic coffee pot, those days.
Um,
We all did.
We all
right?
So, uh, in light of we, we kind
of dangled and you did share
the, the diaper study with us.
Um, other new research.
I live in Colorado.
Um, so, you know, Colorado kind of led
the whole legalization of marijuana,
and I don't know about where you
live, but it's very widely used here.
Um, you have, you have some
information for if anybody is using
marijuana products that I think is
really interesting and important.
Yeah, this, this goes back to my
heavy metal remediation days and
it, it really was great information
because I really understood the study
and multiple studies that I read.
Um, I spent several hours, um, deep
diving in this, but a, a headline caught
me, um, the other day and because I get
fed, Google feeds me research because
it hears my phone and, uh, because of
social media, you know, I'm now getting
fed stuff that, that actually helps.
Which is good.
I don't get, I just get all science.
It's so fun.
And that heavy metals were
showing up in the blood of people.
I think if you smoked, uh, or just
used marijuana twice a month, they
were showing elevated levels of lead
and some mercury and some other heavy
metals in users versus non users.
Because most people, unless you're
eating sushi or, you know, eating
heavy metal, uh, contaminated products,
you're not going to have heavy metal
showing up in your blood because
you'll go to your, I was at my, my
functional medicine doctor said I was,
I'm lead poisoned and they take a blood
work and they say you have no lead.
Not in your blood.
It's not in your blood, it's in your
cells, it's in your bones, right?
So the wrong test.
So to see that like
So circulating.
Wow.
finding these elevated levels
in the blood of marijuana users.
So this would go for hemp as well, right?
If it's even, if this goes past.
Uh, just marijuana, but it would go into
hemp and oils and CBD and all that, right?
Um, the study wasn't didn't
target that but what's
Coming from the same plants.
So
yeah So marijuana is a heavy
metal sequester or sequestering.
They sequester heavy metals That's the
scientific term It's sequesters heavy
metals and there's plants that we used
to use in environmental cleanup on a
contaminated mine We'd grow certain
plants That would suck up the heavy
metals and sequester and soak them up.
And then you would take that and then
you would move that to a class, uh,
hazardous waste landfill where those
heavy metals just get moved away from
the soil and the environment and into
a place where it's safe, where it's dry
and water isn't seeping through it and
contaminating waterways like it would in,
uh, abandoned mines are always around,
uh, especially turn of the century,
abandoned mines are always around streams.
So what they use marijuana for and hemp
is to sequester and soak up heavy metals.
So, take Colorado for instance,
if, and this is an agricultural
issue, really it comes down to that.
There's elevated levels of toxic heavy
metals in marijuana, and if they're
not showing you the results, and
if you're not asking for the COAs,
Certificate of Analysis, COAs, um,
that they're low heavy metals, they're
loaded and you don't even know it.
They could be even over
Prop 65, I don't know.
I mean, but heavy metals and
marijuana go together, right?
And here's the other thing.
I mean, They hybridized marijuana
to be better at sucking up
heavy metals in hemp, right?
Because it's fast growing, it can grow
on contaminated soils, it can grow, it'll
still grow, and a lot of plants won't
grow on toxic heavy metal contaminated
soil, the plants can't handle it.
hemp can
Oh.
so they bred them for that and then
those strains that grow really well
that you can grow anywhere of course
growers are using these strains to make
their products and now you have heavy
metal heavy metal contamination in the
supply chain and if you're in colorado
a mining state that's growing a ton of
this stuff it's soaking up heavy metals
and they're not testing i mean maybe
organic farms i don't know they get to
do some testing but they're if you're not
testing the soils and it has heavy metals
in it That's getting into those plants.
That's getting into the supply chain.
And unfortunately, in the presence
of heavy metals, it's all going
to collect in the stems, the
leaves, the flower, all of it.
So it's bad news.
It is bad news.
And the, what do I do about it?
If I use any kind of hemp or marijuana
products, you answered that already.
I just want to circle back for listeners
using products that have a certificate
of analysis that, that have third party
tests, you know, you want to know.
And the, and the people that are,
um, dishonest, what they'll say is,
um, I, sorry, I cannot share that
information with you, but we hold
to the highest standards, um, of
analysis and safety for our clients.
So they'll have this canned legal answer.
But if they're doing it right and
they understand hemp growers know
this right true Hemp growers that
are trying to help people with their
products They have organic farms.
They're doing it right.
They know that hemp does this.
They probably chose a
strain that doesn't suck.
They all suck, not suck.
They all sequester, uh,
or soak up heavy metals,
That's going to be the name
of the podcast episode.
They all suck, but it's
the nature of the plant
it is the
nature of
you're saying.
So the difference between
somebody in it for the money,
it's the back to the same, right.
It is
I think in this particular case,
they just don't know, right?
Um, you know, I think a lot of
it is they don't know unless
you're really into this, right?
Like a lot of people in the
supplement space, they have,
they're trusting the manufacturer.
They're not doing extra
analysis like I do.
I have non toxic, you know, project
certified products that I would take that
knows there's no heavy metals or whatever.
They're just, they're just
getting a product and kind of
doing commerce and they might.
They love the green, right?
They get benefits from
it, you know, it's great.
But it is sad for somebody
who's, say, a cancer patient,
is using it for management.
Um, could be getting, uh, heavy
metals that, um, not help them.
Because these things are carcinogenic,
so it's, if you're into it, if
you're doing it specially for health
reasons, I would 100%, and you're
eating it, you're not smoking it, it.
Uh, you know, these companies that
are good, they'll let you know.
They'll like,
here's the certificate of analysis.
Yes, we understand that most
hemps are full of heavy metals.
Ours isn't.
This is what we've done.
Those are the people you
want to purchase from.
Love it.
Such amazing information.
Um, because, and, and again,
timely and for me, um, and I,
about, you're just about
to go fire up a bowl, I
No, God,
I'm teasing!
You said timely
that's awesome
softball.
because, because it is, you know,
more people than ever are using,
especially even like edibles and the,
and again, it's fine, the clean ones.
Um, and like you said, especially if
you're using it for health, it's the same,
same concept, you know, do your homework.
And like you said, if they
can't share with you, then.
Don't spend your dollars there.
Yeah, especially CBD companies.
They, they're supplement companies.
They have to follow CGMP.
I don't know the marijuana industry.
I don't know, you know, medical marijuana
or distribution through, you know,
uh, pharmacies or whatever, right?
That's not my jam.
I'm not a, I'm not a big user.
Um, so I don't know any of that
stuff, but I know in the supplement
industry, they do have to follow CGMP.
So they're at least getting tests.
So they're getting them done, right?
Whether they're good or bad, you know,
cause it's, it's actually subjective.
So the standards are pretty
loose and it's a subjective.
That's close enough like eight parts
per million Um lead that's that's fine,
but that's way too much in my opinion,
right if it's if it's above This is
where I love prop 65 because there's no
safe levels levels of lead There's none
Well,
because
all being exposed to it.
And so you you bioaccumulate this
stuff So prop 65 is set up and we'll
end with this Is that they're assuming
that you're getting it from multiple
sources So they make that number
really small to keep you safe, right?
Especially children So they did a really
good job when they thought that one
through it is it's tough For probably a
hemp grower because hemp naturally has
a lot of heavy metals So they're gonna
they have to be super careful, right?
So you're not gonna get yeah, so you're
not gonna get zero But there's people
out there, and you're hearing this, you
can find growers, um, and suppliers that
really do a good job with this stuff.
And, and some of the distilling
process would take some of that
out too, so I think CBD is gonna
be lower, um, because there is, is
distilling that's happening, right?
So some of that's gonna, gonna get out.
And you want, again, companies that are
going to share their testing and companies
that are, that are continuously testing,
um, and not, and again, third party,
like I, Even people I love and trust, you
know, don't, don't, I don't want to see
a, a study published by a pharmaceutical
company about their product.
You know, you really want
objective data for sure.
Amen.
I agree.
But good stuff.
We could talk for another five
hours, but I promised I wouldn't.
I would love to have you
said three.
Now it's five.
You're having a good time.
What exciting projects
do you have coming up?
What are you working on these days?
Well, the fun thing is, is,
um, I'll be, I'm speaking at
the Biohack Your Beauty event.
That'll probably be, um, in LA.
So that's fun getting on some big
podcasts, um, with, uh, like, uh,
Brian Goldstein's podcast and Squints.
Remember Squints?
From, uh, Sandlot.
Everyone loves Squints, he was so cute.
Um, so, nostalgic for me.
He's, he's, I guess
he's still pretty cute.
Um, so getting on to bigger podcasts, so
that's fun, getting the message out, like,
uh, on not necessarily health podcasts.
Being able to share this
information has been an honor.
Uh, Health Experts Alliance
coming up, gonna do that.
Dr.
Pedram Shojai, yeah, Dr.
Pedram Shojai and I, um, are releasing
a docu series called Home Sick Home.
You can, by the time this
airs, uh, get a free viewing
of that for the, for the debut.
Um, homesickhome.
com, so that's gonna be fun, uh, really
well done, uh, by an HBO guy that sits on
the board of the writer bill that actually
is the president, so it's really well
scripted and impactful, um, when it comes
to home toxins and mold and VOCs, I did
a piece here in my home, so, uh, we're
just getting the word out, so that's why,
you know, I love being on podcasts and
going to events, I don't like traveling.
Um, but, uh, when I do
it, I do it for impact.
I'm actually doing a.
Um, another, um, touring some homes from
the Million, million Dollar listing, um,
with Bobby.
Um, one of the guys on that.
So we're gonna do a piece together.
So we're doing a lot of things.
I have a new book, um, that I'm
writing that should be coming out in
the next couple months, so we're full
steam ahead and, and really trying
to educate, you know, once I found.
That, uh, there was traction, um,
through this educational process
and people were getting their
lives changed and thanking me.
That, that fuels all of us, right?
We get a positive feedback loop.
Like, saying, you're a
good mom, Julie, you know?
Or, you know what I mean?
It's like, it feels good.
I am a good mom.
I am doing a good job, right?
Because we, we need to
encourage each other.
And I, and I love the positive feedback.
Got plenty of haters.
Um, I
you're doing something good,
And no, I just, I don't even call,
I shouldn't call them havers.
I have people who
non believers.
And that's okay.
That's part of the, that's
part of the energy flow.
And I appreciate them being honest
and sharing, you know, their belief,
you know, as I'm sharing mine, you
know, cause I, they have that, right.
I love that.
So lots of
but yours is science based,
Well, everyone can, everyone can twist the
you're good.
You're like, yes, it's so true.
So true.
and even health, even health guys
like me, um, are capable of it, right?
So we all are.
So it's, we hold each other accountable.
So we get checks and balances.
This is, this is why we build community.
It's a good thing.
Amen.
Warren, in your vast array of knowledge,
what is one step that listeners can take
starting today to improve their health,
Um, you know, I, every time someone asks
me this question, I try not to say this
because it's, it's not even a toxin.
It's, it's, it's you.
It's, if you want to live a non
toxic lifestyle, you really have
to get honest with yourself.
Um, and, and love yourself too.
Cause I think we have to find
good reasons to make the changes.
So there's so many of us.
It'll make a lot of excuses
not to make these changes.
It's overwhelming.
It's, or they'll say it's fear mongering.
It really doesn't matter.
But in your heart of hearts, you know
that these changes could help, right?
And you're scared, right?
And if you can get to a place.
Um, and you're hearing this and it's
like, and you can listen from an
objective standpoint and bring this
information in and not boo hoo it and
not, uh, get angry about it, right?
And just be like, look, I'm going to
listen to what this guy has to say and I'm
going to implement one thing this week.
Right?
And I'm going to love myself and
that's to help me and my family do
better and find a good reason to do it.
Um, don't find an excuse not to do it.
Find a solution and how it's
going to benefit your life
and attach a positive outcome.
Like, I'm removing all my
fragrances by the end of this date.
And set a date, else you won't do it.
Right, so if you get overwhelmed,
um, I, there's a lot of psychology
when it comes into making change.
And this is change.
And it's hard change.
And it's a never ending change and
like, Oh my God, another thing.
I saw another video, non
toxic dad just canceled that.
And I don't mean it to be fearful.
I meant it just to dial it in.
It might be something you want to do.
It might not be something.
And if it's a big one, I'm going to
tell you, I'm like, this is a big one.
Like fragrances is a big one.
It's a big needle mooter in your life.
And don't get overwhelmed.
If you can do one change a
week, even one change a month,
you're going to see improvement.
Energy is going to come back online, your
mitochondria, hormones, testosterone,
better decision making, all that.
So don't get overwhelmed, make small
changes, love yourself enough to
make those changes and be open up,
open minded enough to take those
steps towards a non toxic lifestyle.
I love it.
I knew your one thing was
going to encompass a lot.
Amazing.
And in case people didn't catch
on already, for those that are
listening on the go, where's
the best place to find you?
Non toxic dad is everywhere,
um, all over social.
So just non toxic dad,
all social platforms.
Um, Instagram is, uh, probably the one
that's the biggest for me, but also
TikTok, YouTube on shorts and, um,
Facebook is actually growing as well.
Amazing.
Warren, thank you so much for
sharing so much gold with us today.
The honor was mine.
I can't wait to see you in a few weeks.
Well, it's coming up fast.
Time is flying.
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