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The New Mom Podcast is a Christian motherhood podcast for women navigating pregnancy, postpartum, and early motherhood.
Whether you're a first-time mom, expecting, or in the middle of sleepless nights, this show offers real, honest conversations about motherhood, marriage, identity, and faith. We talk about birth stories, postpartum recovery, relationships, mental health, and trusting God through every stage of motherhood. If you're looking for encouragement, practical advice, and a reminder that you're not alone—this podcast is for you.
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Welcome back to New Mom. I loved my conversation today with Jacquelyn George. She is a singer and a mom. She was on The Voice a few years back and gosh, we just get into the identity shift that comes when you have a baby. She went from a career high of having a dream come true to having a different kind of dream come true when she welcomed her son a year later.
Carrie:And we hope that you guys feel inspired by this conversation. Okay. Well, Jacquelyn, welcome to New Mom. Hi.
Jacquelyn:Hi. Thanks for being
Carrie:your sweet friend. I'm so excited to have you. Shout out to Leah for making this friendship possible. Mutual friends that was like, You both have little boys. You gotta be friends And when we moved I'm so thankful because we've had so much fun just like the last few months getting to know you guys, you and your husband Tyler.
Carrie:It's been a really big blessing for us. I feel like you were our first Franklin friends. Am I wrong, Con?
Jacquelyn:I feel like
Carrie:you guys were you're the first people that we met.
Jacquelyn:We weren't your first Franklin friend.
Carrie:Yeah. I think you were. Because it was before we found our church. It was before yeah.
Jacquelyn:Oh my
Carrie:gosh. Wait. That's And my first so mom friend in Nashville.
Jacquelyn:Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I love that. Grateful.
Jacquelyn:That actually makes my heart so happy because I'm like, I really love you guys. I just feel like you guys bring such a I don't know, like like mindedness. Like how just right before this, you were talking about how you were working with your husband and You guys that work together, like
Carrie:I I love that. Couples. I know it's very unique. I'm finding that Nashville has a lot of it and I'm really grateful because in LA, obviously, like we came from a place that was very creative, but in the there's so many like believers out here that are creative together and that was more rare in LA. So being here and seeing so many couples be entrepreneurs and doing it is so cool.
Carrie:Parents, many of them are parents, which is inspiring to us because we're so new at it. Like, people are actually doing this. But I know. Yeah. Okay.
Carrie:So before we get too far into it, Jacquelyn, give us if you would, just like give me a little bit of a bio, a little bit about you and your and your family and whatever you want us to know before we like dive into your I
Jacquelyn:am Jacquelyn George. I'm like, I'm looking at you. Like, do I look at
Carrie:this I talk to the camera half the time too. It's fine. Jacquelyn George. I'm like, hey. Am I doing half the But you can talk to me.
Carrie:You can totally talk to me. But you can look if you want.
Jacquelyn:Gosh. Okay. I am I'm in music and marketing and I grew up with a family of six. I'm the youngest of six. Big family.
Jacquelyn:Youngest, love that. Yes. We're all creatives. I mean, in our own ways, my brother was in like this Christian boy band back in the day called Plus One. Like, he was like a total example for me growing up.
Jacquelyn:And so him and I are like the only ones that are family that like grew up really singing and we pursued it. But everyone else in my family, we sing for the most part. And we're all creative. Musical, like every year around Christmas, it's not Christmas unless you get around the table and sing. Oh, that's so fun.
Jacquelyn:Like a carol or something. Like last year my dad was like, we gotta go to every door and like go caroling and I'm like, okay. That's adorable.
Carrie:I feel like I'm married into a musical family because the Alexanders are very musical and I'm not. And so yeah. It's it's actually it's so sweet. They all sing and stuff. I'm like, we gotta get Archie that that goose.
Carrie:Like a little bit musical, yeah. The caroling like around the piano and stuff is is new for me. And I think it's so beautiful. I love that.
Jacquelyn:Yeah. So create a family. My parents both met in college. I mean, my mom was like opera singer, my dad was trumpet player. So like very creative in that sense, but I grew up singing, up dancing, grew up I mean, those were the main things that I did growing up.
Jacquelyn:Now I have an amazing family. I have a little boy that is 10 old, Not 10 years old.
Carrie:That would be funny. That would be so fast too. It's canceled. My husband's here by the way, if we're laughing.
Jacquelyn:I have a little boy, he's 10 old. And my husband is the love of my life. We met when we were in high school. So we're high school sweethearts, guess you can say. And we both have a heart for parents and for the creatives.
Jacquelyn:Like I feel like creators can feel isolated and having your community is so important. So I'm really passionate about, yeah, community and I'm passionate about moms. Yeah.
Carrie:You are. You are. That's you. I love that. And I feel like if you like your socials show that really, really well.
Carrie:She always say that on socials, like show show who you are,
Jacquelyn:like make it obvious.
Carrie:Yeah. And I think that the way that you blend motherhood and music and your creative is endeavors is like really is really beautiful. You do really well. Okay. So before we dive too far into it, you were on The Voice, which I think is awesome.
Carrie:A lot of people love The Voice. Just tell us a little bit about that journey because that was before you were pregnant Pregnant. With Lucas. Okay. And, like, what was the timeline of the events?
Carrie:Maybe just take us through that because I think it's really cool the way that that happened. And then you became a mom. Like, what was that? Yeah. What was the whole thing like?
Jacquelyn:Okay. So back in 2024, I was hanging out with my grandmother and my mom and my sisters and we were celebrating my grandma's ninetieth birthday. I got a call from some random number and I didn't think of picking it up because I don't really pick up phone calls that are like people I don't know. So it went to voicemail, then I listened to the voicemail and they're like, Oh, it's so and so with the voice. I'm like, What?
Jacquelyn:Okay, this is clearly a scam. And then they called again and then another time, and then I finally picked up and she was like, I know that we get this often, but no, we actually have your tape from years ago, like when you're younger. What? Yeah. And she's like, we would love to fly you out to Hollywood and go sing on The Voice and audition.
Jacquelyn:And I was like, what? Hold on.
Carrie:Jacquelyn, that is crazy. You're talking about out of the blue.
Jacquelyn:It was so out of the blue because at this point, I was four years married. I was married for four years and I totally I just been doing the music thing for fifteen plus years and it just I got burned out a little bit to the point where I was like, you know what? I'm detach from this. Mhmm. Like, I'm not trying to get a record deal right now.
Jacquelyn:I'm not I'm like, I'm I'm done kinda with the hustle in a in a sense. And for the first time, I felt like when they called, I was so detached from the outcome that I'm just getting chills thinking about it because it just goes to show like when you do detach from something, like the love of something and you let God do its thing, like you plant the seed and okay, great, years to come, maybe it will happen, maybe it doesn't. But for me, I detached from that outcome and when they called, was just like, okay, I think I'm gonna do this. I thought it was a scam, but it wasn't. And I called my husband right after and he's like, are you sure?
Jacquelyn:Are you sure they wanna fly you out? Wait, hold on.
Carrie:You're not getting kidnapped.
Jacquelyn:You're not getting kidnapped. Yeah, like, hold on. We need to take a step back. But he At the time, this was like, gosh, our first year of marriage is when I auditioned. So it was like four years prior that they had the tapes still.
Jacquelyn:And he actually pushed me to audition too at the time, because I was like, I don't necessarily play. Like I play guitar, which is fun, but I don't call myself a guitarist or a pianist, I'm a vocalist. And so he was like, I'll play piano for you. So we auditioned, so that almost didn't even happen. But the fact that they had that in four years later called
Carrie:me, is
Jacquelyn:wild. Yeah, so that happened shortly after I was like, you know what, I need to pray about this because I feel like I let go of that dream as a little girl to be on a show. I always wanted to be on a show, I always wanted to do Like ever since I was nine, I started like a whole YouTube page and of singing songs and I've just always wanna be on the show. And I let go of that dream and I just like, do I do this? Is this still like in the cards for me?
Jacquelyn:It would mean I have to like sacrifice like being gone for a while. I wouldn't see my husband for a while, my family, I'd be cooped up in a hotel or cooped up in a hotel. And so I prayed about it and Tyler was like, you are an idiot. He's like,
Carrie:going. You're going.
Jacquelyn:Do this. And so I mean, he didn't say that. He didn't say I was an idiot, but was just like, you gotta go. He's like, he's your biggest fan.
Carrie:Yeah. Your husband should be.
Jacquelyn:Yes. Yes.
Carrie:Your biggest advocate. The biggest advocate.
Jacquelyn:Yes. So I said yes, and then made it to top 20, which was amazing. Cool. Been on John Legend's team, it was incredible. I gotta do a duet with him and I was just like, oh, my heart.
Jacquelyn:That's so awesome. Oh, so amazing. I mean, Tyler and I, we love John Legend's music in that sense. Our first dance was to John Legend song. Our gosh, like
Carrie:That's so cool. Everything. So it felt like the whole thing probably felt surreal.
Jacquelyn:It felt so surreal. Yeah. It felt so surreal. And it just felt like, yeah. I was like, oh, wow.
Jacquelyn:Like this is giving me a chance to like dream again. Like it felt like, oh, every time I got on stage, I was like, wow, I'm doing the thing that I wanted to do. Like I've always wanted to sing and let my voice be heard. And then shortly after, so I was out there for like five months or four months.
Carrie:It was a while.
Jacquelyn:It's a long time.
Carrie:Also, shout out to LA. Love LA so much. I think like the first time we hung out, I was like, wait, so like have you been to all the spot like Smokehouse and all the things around that area where the studios are and gosh, Yeah. You made me miss We know so well and Con's brother was on The Voice too a while back. Oh, that's what Oh my gosh.
Carrie:I forgot. Years before. Right, babe? Like a long quite a while ago now. I think like in Maybe 2019.
Carrie:Yeah. Before we were together. So Conn had the whole voice experience. So he kinda knew like where they shot and how it works and how secretive it
Jacquelyn:is and all this stuff. So secretive.
Carrie:Yeah. So we had a little peek of that. But it's so cool that though you're from here, I feel like we had that LA connection. So like, oh my gosh, you got to live I with that
Jacquelyn:experience for a forgot that. That's awesome. I do feel that, like the connection with that, with you guys being
Carrie:And LA, that's such a special. There's something about like LA feels very connected to to just dreams and and creativity for us. It's cool that you got to like live out your dream there because like, it's just it's a butterfly city in many ways. Definitely was
Jacquelyn:for us. And Nashville is kinda like that too.
Carrie:It is. I mean, it's
Jacquelyn:a music city and it's like a dream of a lot of dream or a city of a lot of dreams.
Carrie:Yeah.
Jacquelyn:And so there are a lot of people that do move here and that kind of move from California to and have that in them. So I feel that. When you said something about Burbank, forgot I was gonna go somewhere.
Carrie:Smokehouse, something else in Burbank?
Jacquelyn:Smoke oh, yes. Smokehouse.
Carrie:Yes. Yes. Smokehouse is really I got engaged and went to Smokehouse. Like, Smokehouse is OG for You
Jacquelyn:got engaged and you went to Smokehouse? Yeah.
Carrie:We that whole I love that. Mhmm. Smokehouse is the best. We have so many memories at Smokehouse. It's just that whole area by Warner Brothers is so magical.
Carrie:It is. Yes. It really is. Gosh. Okay.
Carrie:So you were on The Voice, got to live a dream, which is incredible and have that high. And then what happened after? Yes.
Jacquelyn:Shortly after, came back home and then got pregnant, like, what, two, three months later?
Carrie:Yeah. Was that the plan?
Jacquelyn:That was not the plan.
Carrie:Okay. We were That was not the plan. Yeah. We had some catching up Yeah. To
Jacquelyn:We had some catching up to do. We hadn't seen each other for a while, but we yeah. I got pregnant three months later and it totally was not in the car. So I'm the youngest in my family to get pregnant at the age that I did. Mean, all my sisters got pregnant in their 30s.
Jacquelyn:And so for me, was like, I thought I was gonna get pregnant when I was 31 or 30 But I'm so glad I got pregnant when I did.
Carrie:Wait, how old were you?
Jacquelyn:I was 28.
Carrie:Okay, 28. I think that's how old I was, I think. Yeah, because I'm 29 now. 28. I was eight.
Jacquelyn:Yeah. 28?
Carrie:Was two. I can't do math. Artist doing math. I know. You guys 27 or 28?
Carrie:I'm twenty
Jacquelyn:twenty eight eight I
Carrie:got pregnant and had him when I was 28. All all of my 28 Okay. So yeah. Yes. That's a good age.
Carrie:Same. Yeah.
Jacquelyn:Wow.
Carrie:That's That's funny so for you that felt like a little bit younger than you anticipated.
Jacquelyn:Yes. Yeah. Isn't that so funny? Yeah.
Carrie:That's so interesting.
Jacquelyn:I just I didn't see it in the cards like for that year because I was like at the height of like the career and then like came out with an album and that was amazing. And like I came out with an album about like heartbreak from previous years and like, I really am passionate about younger girls and like just go like everything you go through and heartbreak. Like, I mean, you'll have to listen to my album if you haven't, it's called Come As You Are. But ironically, the message behind it kinda correlates with postpartum moms. So didn't at the time didn't see it, but I'm like, Oh wow, these songs are all talking about Come As You Are and your brokenness is your strength.
Jacquelyn:And all of that is so I don't know, like the parallel between those things is really beautiful, like with postpartum and heartbreak.
Carrie:So you made that album before you even knew the double meaning.
Jacquelyn:Before I even knew that That's I was So I think that God was rebirthing something, but I felt like when I was on The Voice and I felt like before I got pregnant, that was like a chapter, not necessarily closed, but it was for the little girl and me. Yeah.
Carrie:Like it almost like closure like peace that you got to
Jacquelyn:Yes. Peace of like, wow, God sees your desires
Carrie:and He You got to do that.
Jacquelyn:Yeah. You got to do that because God totally knew your heart that you wanna do that. And that was a promise from Him. So cool. That was really neat.
Jacquelyn:And then becoming pregnant, I was like, oh, wow. Like, how do I Like, I had to keep it for a secret for a while. And so that was wild because the voice is so secretive too.
Carrie:Oh, it hadn't come out yet?
Jacquelyn:Hadn't come out yet.
Carrie:Oh, okay. I was like, wait, why'd you have to keep it a secret? Okay, gotcha. Yep. Crazy, that timing was quite the overlap.
Carrie:So you were pregnant while the show was airing then? Correct. Okay. Oh, that's so funny.
Jacquelyn:Yeah, I know. So it's crazy. So I couldn't tell anyone for like four months. Oh my gosh. And I was like four months pregnant when we announced.
Jacquelyn:Four or five months pregnant.
Carrie:Oh yeah, that's a while.
Jacquelyn:It's a while in. It was a while. Yeah, so we had to keep it on. Yeah, on On the DL. On the DL.
Jacquelyn:Yes. I'm trying to think timeline wise. So yeah, that happened. And then we Yeah, the voice came out and then shortly after that, we announced that I was pregnant and I was just like so nervous. I just remember being like, what are people are gonna think?
Jacquelyn:Like, are they gonna think that this is like, Oh, she just got pregnant. And then like, is her career over? And just all the lies started swarming in. And I had a showcase that was really big showcase for my album. And I just remember feeling in my soul like, there's a reason for this, there's a reason for this.
Jacquelyn:And I was so nervous. And I just was like, what are people gonna think? Like are the labels gonna And it just straight went straight to all the lies.
Carrie:Oh my gosh, I relate to that so much as an actor. I relate to that so much. Yeah. I mean, I like, even the idea of
Jacquelyn:because I
Carrie:haven't acted since I was 11. Yeah. And so You get it. I get it. And even the idea of, like, do you post that you're pregnant?
Carrie:Like, it was always it was always such just like posting your age is a big thing for actors.
Jacquelyn:Uh-huh. Like, news flash,
Carrie:I'm almost 30. Yeah. Yeah. But but coming out my big come out party, I'm 30. No.
Carrie:I'm just kidding. But it's like it's there's something like everything is is kept because we just there's such a lie that we're all fed of like Yes. If you, you know, if you pursue family Yep. Then especially for women, then career dies or the, oh, it's over. Like and I really there was such a that's such a hold on me for a long time.
Carrie:And we'd only been married two years when I got pregnant, but those two the whole time I wanted that and I was ready, but I was just so nervous because of that. And so I really do understand. And because everybody's like, you hear that. It's like, well, you have to make it to a certain place in your career to get to have a child. It's a privilege.
Carrie:It's like, you have to kill it. And then you can have kids and they can be an addition. But it was such a misunderstanding because now my friend and I were just talking about this the other day. Like actually your family, like it's your legacy, it's your life.
Jacquelyn:It's who
Carrie:you come home
Jacquelyn:to at night. It's you get in bed.
Carrie:Like my husband's next to me, my baby's down the hall. Like this is everything. Then career is a beautiful addition.
Jacquelyn:That's exactly what
Carrie:I'm But I had it backwards. I thought like, I'll get the career and then I'll add a family. We'll add that on top. And it's so the opposite where it's like, if your family I mean, that is everything and then everything else just gets to be the cherry on top and you get to pursue these creative things. But I just had I just believed such a lie for so long and I'm so thankful that it's kinda cool that you ended up just kinda getting pregnant after The Voice because you could have withheld that for a long time out of fear and it's kinda beautiful that God was like, and you're gonna get Yeah.
Jacquelyn:It definitely felt like last year was Like 2025 was like a harvesting year for me. And it was really hard when this year, being ten months postpartum, how how to identify what is this year like, you know? Because it was such a high. It was such like The Voice, my album, Pregnancy.
Carrie:Oh my gosh. So much. Okay. So I I was gonna ask, like, how has that what is that transition like from having a career high Mhmm. To having the biggest personal high of your life of having I don't wanna say the biggest, but a huge personal high
Jacquelyn:Yes.
Carrie:Of having a child. Yes. But it's so quiet and hidden. Yes. It's a top moment of all of our lives.
Carrie:Right? Marriage, all your kids, like, that's kind of up there. So you go from having the career high to having the the family high, but the that high the high of motherhood is thankless. It's it's quiet.
Jacquelyn:It's hidden. It's the opposite being on
Carrie:the stage with John Legend. Like, it's the opposite of singing a duet with
Jacquelyn:John Legend.
Carrie:So what was that like? Like, how did that what did God do in that? Like, did you have
Jacquelyn:that I love that you asked that question because that is so where I'm at right now. And the I'm really focusing on the flourish in the fall, right? How we have seasons where we're flourishing and then we have seasons where we're falling so to say, falling back into the soil, growing our roots deeper, growing like I get chills thinking about it because that is a season I'm in right now. It's like re identifying what it looks like to be unseen as a mom, but doing the great work unnoticed in the dark, right, in a sense. That's what
Carrie:It's kinda about motherhood. It is. Especially in the early days when they can't even say thank you, you don't get a lot back yet. And so it really is just this pouring in and this planting and yeah.
Jacquelyn:Mean, it's totally planting. This is my season of planting seeds and I've really had to look at it that way. It's like, when a flower blooms, it falls. And then the cycle happens again and the circle happens of going back into the soil and the roots growing deeper and then it sprouts and then it starts all over again. And I think we forget, especially in a day and age where social media is in our lives, we are constantly being told or constantly being shown like the flowers in other people's lives.
Jacquelyn:Always. Always. Yeah. Like highlight, highlight, highlight, highlight. And you're not really seeing like what it looks like for people to be in the planting seeds era.
Carrie:And it's not really there's not a lot of room like, there's there's not a lot of applause for that.
Jacquelyn:Like, don't
Carrie:there's no it's like we know how important that is. God sees it as the one of the most important things. Like, we were just our little bible study was in the book of James last night. It's where James one about considerate joy when you endure suffering and trials because you know It makes yeah. Because it brings you for experience and it brings you and and it grows you.
Carrie:It's so important. Like God sees that as the most fruitful seasons. The ones where there is some suffering and some some planting and the slow work. But social media just applauses the end result. It's like there's no room for the journey.
Jacquelyn:There's There's no room for
Carrie:the journey. We don't wanna see the journey. We don't hear about the journey. The journey doesn't get applause. And it it's just man, that's so true about motherhood.
Carrie:Yeah. We have, sweet mentors of ours that are they're having Connor and I are, like, planting this little garden together in our backyard right now. I love that. Do not have a green thumb. This is new.
Carrie:This is new. But I'm seeing
Jacquelyn:You
Carrie:come will. Up. Will. You, please,
Jacquelyn:will. I was the same way.
Carrie:Yeah. But when you're saying all of this, it's crazy because God's word, so much of it is the garden metaphor. Like, he uses the the visual, the pictures, the garden so much. And I understood it to a level before I started My Little Garden. And now I'm really getting it.
Carrie:It's like, oh, these things like it is a cycle like you just said. And so much of our life, it's not a cop out to always use the garden analogy and the garden visual. It actually is I mean, God uses it. It's such a good picture and it's helpful because it's like, okay, with the voice, like you had this high And so many women that are listening, like they may have a career hire, their marriage was like these different things before they had a kid. And now we're back into the soil and back into the quiet planting.
Carrie:And it's not that your life's over and it's not that there won't be more highs, like beautiful things are gonna grow. But these cycles, like every phase is important. Some just don't get the attention and the applause that we're used to seeing on socials all the And it's like, you don't have a high every year when you post your like yearly highlights, there's not some crazy life changing high. What what was my year? Like, it even Wasn't even good.
Carrie:And motherhood is like the most like I said, like the most we're home with Yeah. Our Yeah. So like, how did you do you feel like that's been a challenge for you? I To go because you I just wanna say, like, as a as a friend, like, know, I haven't known you for too long, but you walk in motherhood with so much peace and so much confidence. Truly, you And I feel like you just seem like someone that is really just enjoying it.
Carrie:And you're like, you're so okay with where you're at from my perspective seeing you as a friend. And it's really inspiring to me because there are a lot of women, whether you work or you don't, there are a lot of women that are like, being a mom, like, it's not it doesn't feel like enough. Yeah. And you're someone that has tons of aspirations, tons of talent, has had a lot of success and it feels like it's enough in this beautiful way. Not that you're not also working hard on your other things right now, but I just love seeing that.
Carrie:Like, it just seems like you're walking, being present and with peace. Is that something you've had to like fight for or is that come Oh,
Jacquelyn:definitely fought I've definitely fought for that peace. I feel like in the planning era right now as like being a mom and being a mom that's hardly working right now is so odd for me. Like going from I feel like not a lot of people talk about like what it looks like to be working for twenty plus years and then going straight into motherhood. And if you're blessed where you're like your husband's able to work extra hard and for you to stay at home with your kid, that is such a huge blessing that Tyler and I have right now. I mean, yes, it's hard in the sense like we've always worked on like two a household of two income.
Carrie:But
Jacquelyn:now, you know, he is doubling his income, which is amazing. But for me, it takes the load off
Carrie:Mhmm.
Jacquelyn:In a sense, but it it's been a hard transition to be like, okay, I am just a mom. We're not just a mom. I am a mom. And that's the most beautiful thing that I could ever do. Mhmm.
Jacquelyn:Like, this is the biggest collaboration that my husband and I Yeah. Have ever worked on.
Carrie:That's true. The biggest collab. I love that. The biggest collab. Oh, yeah.
Carrie:So true.
Jacquelyn:When we announced Lucas, we're like, the trio is happening.
Carrie:So cute.
Jacquelyn:But I feel like there needs to be more said about that. Transitioning from working into becoming this content woman that is giving so much of her time, but then making the home a place to be a home. I'm really enjoying it because I just never been in this like role before. And I never really was like that. Like I was the youngest in my family.
Jacquelyn:Never had a younger sibling. So like for me, like I never got to see like a baby that was younger that you could take care of.
Carrie:That makes sense. Yeah.
Jacquelyn:And so for me, it's, like, all new. It's, like, all like, a new thing that I'm, like, I get to define what this tool looks like and how I use it. And it's, like, in my toolbox and, like, all these other tools are there, like with a career and, you know, going back to the work field. But I I know that I'll be able to bring those tools out at a certain point. But right now, it's like I I got a new I got a new tool, like a like a like a hammer that I can use that I've never used before or, yeah.
Jacquelyn:I'm like, that analogy is not like the best analogy, but
Carrie:No. I I totally
Jacquelyn:know what I mean? Like, it's like a new tool that you are learning how to use.
Carrie:Yeah. Oh my gosh. Which is like so much of of motherhood.
Jacquelyn:Yeah. But it's so funny that you say peace because or that you sense that for me because I'm like, I feel like chaos.
Carrie:But don't we all?
Jacquelyn:Most days.
Carrie:Like, I just have to say, my I live with my sister right now and I'm so grateful for her because cause I will feel like a freaking hot mess. Yeah. Like I am
Jacquelyn:like Yeah. She's like,
Carrie:hey sis, I just wanna speak life over you and say that you're an amazing mom and you exude such peace. And I'm like, what? Yeah. It's like my hair is like sticking up to here.
Jacquelyn:He's eating about We're doing the Lord's work. Okay. Yeah. Motherhood is the
Carrie:Lord's work.
Jacquelyn:It is. But I think it's beautiful that it's
Carrie:like, no, I'm not fakes. Like, she's not faking that. Like, she does see something there because sometimes, like, being a mom, there is just a shift that happens inside of us and hormonally and all those things.
Jacquelyn:Yes.
Carrie:So we're feeling a lot, but I think that the heart is there and the intention is there. So I don't know. Sometimes seeing her honestly pour into me and say, you're doing an amazing job. Or I'll like, is there anything better in the world than when our husbands tell us we're doing an amazing job? Like, come on.
Carrie:Right. When he says that and he's like, you're a great mom. And I'm like, I am? Today, I feel like I failed them. I feel like I did these things wrong.
Carrie:I feel like I complained. I feel like I So weird. I got on my phone too much. I feel like I was thinking about work when I should have been you know, we do that. And it's just so when I say that about peace, like, I totally I genuinely am telling you that, like, I see that with you.
Carrie:And also, yeah, we're all feeling the 55 things Yeah. That are that are going on. Like, there's rarely a day where I'm like, today was peace. We're like, yeah.
Jacquelyn:No way.
Carrie:Yeah. You do I can see that you're walking in it. I maybe, like, the that's the key with motherhood is like, it's not always going to be peaceful
Jacquelyn:Yes.
Carrie:But you carry peace because you're being present and you're just you're just committed to what the season Presents. Yes.
Jacquelyn:It's all about presence. Mhmm. I think that's the the biggest thing that's gotten me through motherhood has been not looking in the past and not looking too far in the future and trying to take every day by day and being present as much as I can be. Like, before we shot this podcast, you're talking about, you know, having a messy at home
Carrie:or Oh, yeah. We walked in and I'm like, hey, guys. FYI, there's like trash cans and like sunscreen saw their kids toy right now.
Jacquelyn:That that's a sign of a great parent. It's like you're present to your child.
Carrie:Mhmm.
Jacquelyn:And your child that's gonna speak volumes than having a clean home.
Carrie:Yeah. Know? It's so true. It's so true. Because you're just committed to you're committed to your kid just living living out the day, being with them.
Carrie:And I just I guess I'll say, like, if there are entrepreneur moms that are listening, if you have like, if you're stay at home mom and you don't have a job and you're then there's there's certain things you're gonna deal with in terms of like feeling the overwhelm or feeling like, is this my job or how to then there's some of us that are creatives where it's like, this is mostly my job. And also I I think you and I talked about this on a walk the other day. Yeah. We also do have other creative passions and work that take a portion of our life, but we're really blessed that our kids are the majority. But there's no office hours with that.
Carrie:Right. And so there might be lot of moms that are like stay work from home moms or or part time work And that is a that's been an interesting place to be because I can feel convicted that my hours at work are very minimal, but the hours my brain might be taken up with them because I don't clock in and out can be a thing. And so I'm really working right now being present. And like, I'll say to Khan in the morning, I'll be like, today, I'm just a mom. And, like, in a good way, not a bad way.
Carrie:I'm like, today, I'm my brain is, like, all a mom. I don't have any anything to do for anything else. And it's the best feeling because then it helps me be, like, be so present. More present and more efficient with your time
Jacquelyn:too, I'm sure.
Carrie:Mhmm. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's nothing worse than trying to accomplish three things, but then you accomplish none.
Carrie:I'm not paying attention to him, the dishes aren't done, and I didn't do that thing for work because I'm trying to do Right. All three of them.
Jacquelyn:Some days you gotta be like, you know what? If I get this like one thing done, then that was success. Like that was a hard thing in the transition from like being an entrepreneur and then becoming a mom was like, I would get like a 100 things done before being a mom. And then being a mom, I'm like, okay, I can get two things done
Carrie:today. That's really good though.
Jacquelyn:That's success and That's so good.
Carrie:So we just got whiteboards for our fridge and I wanted them because I'm a to do list guru.
Jacquelyn:Me too. Taipei?
Carrie:Yes.
Jacquelyn:Personality, but We need the to Type a person, but type a or type gosh. Type a person, type b mom. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Jacquelyn:Yeah. I honestly, I feel that.
Carrie:Like, we're not that granola over here, but I do love a to do list. And so are you a three on the Enneagram? I am. Okay. Yeah.
Carrie:Yeah. So we Yes.
Jacquelyn:Do we Yeah.
Carrie:You get it. So three's love a to do And
Jacquelyn:I so anyway, I got
Carrie:the whiteboard up and I'm realizing exactly what you just said. Like Yeah. This is maybe for any mom that's feeling like the overwhelm of that, is my to do list as opposed to putting my ambitions on there of
Jacquelyn:like Yes.
Carrie:There's 50 things that need done around the house. Right. It's literally like, I've started to put three to four things a day. So maybe it's like, aside from like taking care of your baby, of course, that's like, of course, and like eating. But I'll just put
Jacquelyn:eating thing.
Carrie:Yeah. Yes. You actually do have to remember to do that. You do. But, I'll just put, like, a bullet point.
Carrie:I'll be like, you know, maybe today I'm gonna work out. It's not every day. But it's like, today, I'm going to get that workout Yep. And say I'm going to do laundry. That's the list.
Carrie:Love If those get done, we're killing it.
Jacquelyn:That is
Carrie:If they don't, whatever. Success.
Jacquelyn:But like, when I put
Carrie:50 things and I'm like, and clean the toilets and a dust No underneath way.
Jacquelyn:It's like, it's not gonna happen.
Carrie:Like, pick your poison. Like, you're gonna do a few little things when they're asleep and that's kind of it.
Jacquelyn:Yeah. That's it. You got two hours, girl,
Carrie:and what
Jacquelyn:are you gonna do with it? I mean, it's the trade offs, right? Yeah. It's the trade offs that you have to have. That I kinda go in and out of that every day.
Jacquelyn:Like I've had a I'm right now working on my calendar where Monday, Wednesday, Friday, it's like, okay, I'm all mom. And then Tuesday and Thursday, I'm all mom, but also I can work on like a creative project of some sort for an hour. Yeah. Like like, you have to give yourself those guidelines I think it's or
Carrie:you go crazy. I would say, think it's helpful because then your brain like, if you know you have a set aside time during the week, then like if it's Monday and I know that time is Wednesday, I can kind of table it Yes. As opposed to being like, I know don't when I'm gonna think about this again, then it kinda consumes more of your time.
Jacquelyn:Talking about consuming, I feel like being off social media Oh, yeah.
Carrie:Want yeah. You to talk about that as a
Jacquelyn:Yeah. I I I feel like being off social like, we were on vacation last week, I did not even pick up my phone. I feel so bad. I really do feel so bad not responding back to people Yeah,
Carrie:you shouldn't.
Jacquelyn:And messages. But this is my season of just being so present.
Carrie:That's so good, Jacquelyn.
Jacquelyn:And it's just been so good for me for the first time in my life, honestly. I've never been as present as I am now than I have in the past. I've been constantly thinking of the future or yeah, just like what's next, right? And I think we can, even as moms, can still think what's next? What's the next step?
Jacquelyn:Like you're thinking of your child's nap or you're thinking of that's true. Their next meal, but like being so present, like really trying to be intentional with every moment is so important. But it's a luxury to have if you can. But I would say consuming has been something I've realized that I've done so much of. Like, motherhood is like revealing so many of those things in me.
Jacquelyn:It's like a mirror. It's a total mirror. Absolutely is.
Carrie:The things that you could kind of not really notice before or you had time to kind of let there be some things that weren't the most helpful or like too time consuming and then you kinda realize all of your I wanna say shortcomings, but vice whatever. Yeah.
Jacquelyn:Yeah. But then there's the other side of that. The flip side is like being a mom and being home with your kid and or them being down for their nap. And you're like, what am I gonna do with this time? Right?
Jacquelyn:You can either do those things on your list or scroll on social media. Scroll. Yep. And I know and I feel like we all
Carrie:So tempting to scroll and you're tired. It's easy to just be like
Jacquelyn:Yes. I just need ten
Carrie:minutes to zone out but doesn't do anything. That was me yesterday. This is not me preaching to people. Girl. Yesterday, I was on there and I scrolled for, like, five minutes and I was like, oh my gosh.
Carrie:Like, what and I beat myself up so badly for it. It's it's just such a good reminder that it's like, no, it's okay. But we do need to remember that that's like actually not the most fruitful. So being off of socials, how long have you taken a break from? Like a few weeks?
Jacquelyn:A few weeks. Yeah. I am trying to do a month, but I'm gotten to the point where I'm like, social media is kind of what I've done for like some of my clients.
Carrie:Mhmm.
Jacquelyn:It is what I do. This is what I make money for.
Carrie:Yeah. It's your job.
Jacquelyn:It's my job. So being on there, I've had to like download this app called Opal. I'm not sponsored with them. We don't have to
Carrie:Shout out to Opal though. Shout out to You can sponsor New Sponsored
Jacquelyn:New Mom. It's an app that helps block certain apps on your phone, social media, and you can change the increments of time of when you get on it, when you don't get on it. And sometimes you can just totally block it for a whole week if you want. That's so hardcore. I haven't done it like that.
Jacquelyn:I've done it over the weekend, like start a Friday to Sunday. I've done like block my social media apps and I can't even get into that.
Carrie:Oh, I need this.
Jacquelyn:And then when you try to get into them, it has like a little quote, like a little nice little like quote of inspiration or motivation for you. And I'm like, yeah. Yes. I'm not gonna get in there. Yeah.
Jacquelyn:Right. I'm not gonna get there.
Carrie:Keep going,
Jacquelyn:girly. Going. Be present with your kid. Exactly. Faith without works instead.
Jacquelyn:Like, yeah. It has cool quotes with it. But it's it's been it's been nice though because
Carrie:love that. I need to download it.
Jacquelyn:Seriously. Well, there's that block too that you can The
Carrie:brick. Get
Jacquelyn:or brick. Yeah. Mhmm. It's called the It's a block.
Carrie:But it's called the Yeah. Yeah. I've heard I've heard about those too. Yeah. Yeah.
Jacquelyn:They're great. Which is great. But it's been great for my mindset, but I never thought I was the type of person to consume so much. But because I'm in marketing, I believe the lie, oh, I'm gonna consume to research, research, research. Oh, new idea.
Jacquelyn:I'm gonna save the idea, save the idea. And then it's like, for me, I've been constantly saving ideas. And then it's like, wait, wait, hold on. What am I executing? Wait, let me take a step back.
Jacquelyn:What am I executing? What have I done? What am I actually coming back
Carrie:to What am I coming back to?
Jacquelyn:What's the end result? And that's why I like reading has been so good for me because it's like, this is a book, there's a start and there's a finish. Mhmm.
Carrie:You
Jacquelyn:know, there's this and a task, a to do list. Yes. There's start and there's a finish. And like with with social media,
Carrie:it's it's endless. It's endless. Yeah. Endless distraction from your family.
Jacquelyn:It's a distraction from your family. And so I think at this one thing I'm really passionate about right now is like eliminating as many distractions as possible to be the most present mom you can be, most present wife or friend or instead of scrolling, I could text Carrie and be like, hey girl, are doing? I wanna
Carrie:go Yeah. Wanna the rock.
Jacquelyn:Which we did a few weeks Yeah.
Carrie:That's so true. I texted a friend the other day who asked me, she invited me to the sweetest little bible school thing for kids over the summer. And I texted her and I was like, you know what? I'm not gonna do this because I another way, it's like there's technology. There's also over committing, especially in the summer time.
Carrie:We're recording this in the summer. Oh, yeah. Over committing is so real and that's when you're talking about eliminating. Like I chose to I was like, that's gonna be That's a week right now in the summer that we don't have something on the calendar and maybe I should keep it like that. Because I wanna do it.
Carrie:I'm social and like that sounds like so much fun. But I'm trying to learn that too of just like eliminating the things like saying no more so you can say yes more to simplicity. And like, of course there's unique community and there's a time but yeah. Do you
Jacquelyn:feel like you're becoming more intentional with your time?
Carrie:Yeah, absolutely. It's like every moment you want to Even if that moment is just resting with your family, you wanna intentionally do that. Sometimes I do that so much that I annoy Connor because I'm like, so what we're doing right now is is we're we're spending this time doing this. We're going to go on a walk and then we're going to play as a family for thirty minutes and he's like, dude, chill.
Jacquelyn:Yeah. Can we just like Kevin off day?
Carrie:Yeah. He's like, okay. We're not gonna schedule our rest. Like, chill out. Oh, that's such a three thing.
Carrie:Oh, yeah.
Jacquelyn:Oh, I'm so sad.
Carrie:It's so bad. I'm like, here's our scheduled Sabbath. This is our rest. This is what it looks like from minute to minute. It's like, wait.
Carrie:That's not my version of rest. Yes. But it is mine. That was me last
Jacquelyn:week It on was like, okay. This we're gonna do it. And Tyler's like, isn't this vacation? There's a reason why you have rest, but that is so real. That's another lesson in motherhood that I feel like I've really learned is rest is so important.
Jacquelyn:It's so important. It's the epitome of what you need most, I feel like.
Carrie:Do you guys try to practice Sabbath as a family or taking a day off?
Jacquelyn:Yeah, we do. Sundays We
Carrie:were not amazing about it since we've a kid, but we try.
Jacquelyn:Try. It's very hard. We try. I think we're such We gotta get the entrepreneur out of us sometimes because we will constantly be thinking of ideas. And when we are resting, we're thinking of an idea or a new thing or, oh,
Carrie:how How do we turn make that part of the brain off?
Jacquelyn:Yeah. So I think one thing that's really helped with turning that part of the brain off is reading and blocking my apps on my phone because I can get so distracted by social media and researching, not just like for personal use, but like for my clients or for other people and being like, Oh, this would be really good for you to do. And it's like my way of being okay with scrolling. So anyway, I'm really passionate about that. And we can talk about Remember Her.
Carrie:I was just gonna say my last question before I wanna get into this one would you rather is, I want you to talk about Remember Her because I think so cool.
Jacquelyn:Yes, remember her. With motherhood, I've been like, okay, my roots are getting deeper in the unnoticed in the thankless season, right? Where I'm like, how can I give back in my music and my business and in just community? Like I think community I've realized is what's so important as a mom, like I'm convinced that's why most moms have baby blues or isolation if they don't have community. And so, I find my days when I'm If I get isolated or have baby blues, it's because I didn't call it my sister or I didn't call it my We're cooped up.
Carrie:We're lonely.
Jacquelyn:We're cooped up. You've been pouring out so much. And so you gotta remember who you are in God and you also need to remember the little girl in you. And for me, like, what are those attributes that you did as a kid? Right?
Jacquelyn:Like for me, it was, I would sing all the time. I would go outside and play in like the mud. I would like climb a tree, like I would play. There's an importance with play as a human being, because I think we can get so rigid, we can get so serious, what are we doing? And you have to be like
Carrie:It's like the childlike It's the
Jacquelyn:childlike wonder. It's the childlike wonder that God loves in us that I think is important to remember. And so I'm just really passionate about remembering who you are, remembering that young self, that childlike wonder that you have and creating more, consuming less. Because I think when you choose to create, like whatever that looks like for you, like do a podcast or like go sing or like have your creative outlet. Like it just is so enlightening.
Jacquelyn:You become a better person, you become a better mom, become a better wife.
Carrie:This is silly, but I like to color.
Jacquelyn:I love that.
Carrie:It's so fun. Yes. And it feels like what I do when I really don't have anything on that list. Oh, I love that. He's asleep and I'm gonna color because I feel like a little girl because I colored all the time.
Carrie:Wait. See. And and even, like, coloring on a blanket outside or something. Yes. Yes.
Carrie:The best. Okay. So remember In
Jacquelyn:the summer.
Carrie:Yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah. Are you kidding me? So remember her, it is a community that women can join, Yes.
Jacquelyn:Remember her is a community that you can join for women.
Carrie:It's an online community.
Jacquelyn:Yep. So remember her is an online community for women, a chance for them to create and consume less and to remember who they are and God.
Carrie:Love it.
Jacquelyn:Yeah, it's just a place to not be isolated
Carrie:I love so to much Jacquelyn.
Jacquelyn:Yeah, yeah. I'm like, for me, I dealt with isolation. So I just was like, I would love to like create this for not just like my fellow community, but like anyone that's online. Yeah. You could be in a different country and you're you're definitely feeling this
Carrie:way, you know? Yes. That's what's so cool about, know, the online space gets a lot of slack, but also there are some blessings in it. And Oh, know. The mom community.
Carrie:Oh, yeah. I mean, even stuff like this is just like, it's so cool to see people from Yes. Different places and countries.
Jacquelyn:Everything has pros and cons and
Carrie:That's true. The day we're living in, this is when the Lord made us. So we're meant to be in this day and age. So we gotta just steward it well, you know?
Jacquelyn:Yes. A thousand percent.
Carrie:Okay. We're gonna wrap up with some would you rather questions that I think are super fun and silly. Most these are all like parent. There's maybe a couple that are marriage related, but okay. I'll maybe answer some of these too because they're fun.
Carrie:Would you rather change 20 diapers in a row or wake up every two hours for a whole night?
Jacquelyn:Oh, diapers. Me too. Oh, I love my rest. Yeah. And I love sleep.
Carrie:Yeah. Would you rather step on a toy barefoot every day or always have spit up on your shirt? Oh my gosh. These are both terrible.
Jacquelyn:Gina, paid is toys. Let's do the
Carrie:You'd rather have toys?
Jacquelyn:To wait. What was the second?
Carrie:Spit up on the shirt.
Jacquelyn:Yeah. I'm gonna pick I'm gonna pick the
Carrie:I'd rather have spit up on my shirt because I get rageful when I step on something and it hurts. And I can't recover. My nervous system's mad for a good bit. Okay. Yeah.
Carrie:I'm going stinky spit up.
Jacquelyn:I've got a high pain tolerance.
Carrie:Yes. Oh, okay. Okay. So so for you It's twice. You pick the choice.
Carrie:Again, would you rather only eat cold meals or never get to finish a warm cup of coffee? Oh gosh.
Jacquelyn:Oh, that's a hard one.
Carrie:Carrie, that's
Jacquelyn:not word. Neither. I love my warm coffee. I would say Gosh, I would say cold coffee because I could always just put it in the microwave.
Carrie:I was gonna say, does the microwave count for either of these? We don't believe in microwaves. No. Mom's had to believe in microwaves. I'm gonna go, I think yeah.
Carrie:I guess I'll say finish a warm cup of coffee because it's okay if it's room temperature, but if my food's cold Yeah. No way. Yeah. I know. Would you rather have an extra hour every day or okay.
Carrie:An extra hour of the day every day or an extra day off every week? I'm picking the
Jacquelyn:day off. Sorry. Say that one more time.
Carrie:So you either get an extra hour every day Uh-huh. The day gets an add an hour added or an extra day every week. Oh, day. Yeah.
Jacquelyn:Sure. Me too. Yeah. A 100%. No brainer.
Carrie:Yeah. Yeah.
Jacquelyn:Okay. I get so much more done if it was eight days through the week.
Carrie:Oh, I feel the same way. Would you rather be an early morning mom or a late night mom?
Jacquelyn:Oh, this one this is a tug tug of war Mhmm. With me. I I love both. Mhmm. But lately, nights have just been really nice for me because I wanna be the early mom.
Jacquelyn:I do. But at least
Carrie:No. But this is this is honesty hour. This is honesty hour.
Jacquelyn:This is yes.
Carrie:What we hope. Yeah. I know. You know, I
Jacquelyn:I would love to be the, let's get up at 4AM Mhmm. Type of person and, like, go on a run. You know? I'm becoming her.
Carrie:Yeah. Becoming her. You're getting there. You're getting there.
Jacquelyn:I'm getting there. I I like my nights some. Yeah.
Carrie:You like your nights?
Jacquelyn:Yeah. Because I can spend time with my husband
Carrie:and I totally get that. I was gonna say I'm so I'm a morning person by nature. Love my time. I love my early morning time. Right.
Carrie:But lately Yeah. We've been doing like, when he goes down for dinner, we've been having time with friends Yeah. Which can turn into late night. Right. And that is so filling to my soul.
Carrie:Like, as is time in the morning to, like, read the bible, which is being very peaceful. Yes. But I feel like lately, I'm I'm really cherishing that time at night. It's just it's making memories of summertime. You get to yes.
Carrie:You get to feel a little bit like a person again. Yeah. You're like, okay, my kid's asleep. He's happy. Let's hang out and eat pizza.
Carrie:Okay. Would you okay, would you rather you and your spouse always agree on parenting or finances?
Jacquelyn:Oh, wow. That's a really good question.
Carrie:It is.
Jacquelyn:Okay. Let me really think about this.
Carrie:And they almost coincide in a way?
Jacquelyn:It it like, a little bit. Finance or parenting? Well I'm gonna say
Carrie:Go ahead.
Jacquelyn:Parenting? Yeah.
Carrie:I was it's probably parenting.
Jacquelyn:Parenting for sure.
Carrie:Yeah. Mean, finances bring up fights, but I don't want our kids to be confused with parenting. Yes. I don't want mixed signals going to him of, like, can I
Jacquelyn:Right?
Carrie:Do this thing? You don't wanna see them in
Jacquelyn:conflict. Sorry to interrupt.
Carrie:No. Go for it.
Jacquelyn:Parenting also can be like you're talking about what finance looks like
Carrie:Mhmm. With your kid. Yes.
Jacquelyn:So it's kind of
Carrie:an It kinda you
Jacquelyn:know I mean? It kinda coincides.
Carrie:Yeah. It does.
Jacquelyn:Yeah.
Carrie:Okay. I think this is the last one. These are great questions. These are short. They're fun.
Jacquelyn:Right? Yeah. These are really really good.
Carrie:Would you rather celebrate every holiday big or keep them all simple?
Jacquelyn:Oh, big.
Carrie:Okay. Me too. I'm like, this is not even a question. I'm such a girl.
Jacquelyn:Are you, like I'm a Christmas girly. Yes.
Carrie:I'm like, I think when I have, like if we have a little girl one day, we're gonna be Valentine's Day people and make cookies. Like, there's no I'm I'm so up for that. I come from such a holiday tradition family. That's just what you wear. Does he come from that?
Carrie:I mean, they like holidays, but they're, yeah, they're more neutral. They're more like, you know, we we celebrate, but, like, it could it it could, I guess, like, give or take. We are absolute, like Yes. Put the Santa hat on. Yes.
Carrie:Don't take it off till January 30.
Jacquelyn:It's so funny. I didn't grow up believing in Santa. Really? Yeah. Sadly.
Jacquelyn:Yes. But we definitely will wanna, like, do that with our I
Carrie:was gonna say that's gonna be a topic for this podcast I have not gotten into because there is some deep, like, around the Santa thing. And we we're still we're still discerning that one, like, of, like, what the level is of because it's, like, very hot topic in the Christian community. Oh, it is. Which I totally get. Right.
Jacquelyn:I mean, we can go there. But yes. I
Carrie:Having Jacquelyn on just for a Christmas episode. Yes. We need to have, like, a Santa round table episode with Christian moms. Like, what does everybody think?
Jacquelyn:Listen. I did do an essay when I was, what, 11? No. Not 11. I think it was, like, 13.
Jacquelyn:When I was 13, I did an essay about you tell your kids whether or not That young, you you were in this. I was in a Christian school that was
Carrie:like Was that
Jacquelyn:the prompt? Yeah. That was the prompt.
Carrie:That's amazing. Do you
Jacquelyn:believe in Santa Claus or do you not believe in Santa Claus? And I chose not Santa Claus. And I was brutal with it.
Carrie:Nice job.
Jacquelyn:I don't know. So maybe we'll stay
Carrie:up here. I'll bring it up. We're having a debate, a live debate. Okay. Last question.
Carrie:Yeah. This last one. Okay. Would you rather your spouse handle all the diaper changes or all the overnight wake ups? Oh, wake ups.
Carrie:Who wake ups for
Jacquelyn:sure?
Carrie:Don't Diapers don't bother me.
Jacquelyn:Yeah. Same.
Carrie:But they bother Connor. Like, they
Jacquelyn:That's so funny.
Carrie:Like, would say they bother you. He gags. Yeah. He, like, actually physically gags at some of it. I'm like, I don't care.
Carrie:Just If you wake him up if you do take it in middle of the night, I'm happy with the diaper changes.
Jacquelyn:This is This was
Carrie:so fun.
Jacquelyn:I know. This was so great.
Carrie:I could keep talking to you and we probably will once I stop recording it. But last question that I love to ask is what would be your advice to a new mom?
Jacquelyn:Oh, great. I would say stay present as you can. The trenches will they're they're temporary.
Carrie:Mhmm.
Jacquelyn:They will pass. And having time with your husband, at least like a date night once a week is so important. But don't forget to take care of yourself. Like even if it means your baby is crying for like a minute or two, like go brush your hair girl, go get ready for the day.
Carrie:Go to the bathroom.
Jacquelyn:Go to the bathroom, eat that meal. You'll feel like a million times better and your day will go so much better. And ultimately, like, find your girls, find your find your community. I think that's super, super important to just have even a text thread with some moms.
Carrie:It's really, really good. Yeah. I Just like practical
Jacquelyn:practical tips.
Carrie:Yeah. That's my thing. Honestly, I love all of those.
Jacquelyn:Those are
Carrie:those are really good. Community is huge. Like, you just said about It's like that can be Yes. The isolation factor. And if they're not in person, then voice memos.
Carrie:Hello. FaceTime. Hello. We FaceTime. Welcome you.
Jacquelyn:Girl, we
Carrie:welcome you FaceTime. We welcome FaceTime. Welcome you voice. Awesome. Well, Jacquelyn, thank you so much for being on.
Carrie:You're so wonderful. Like a true blessing to this community. I appreciate it.
Jacquelyn:Thanks for having me.