Away We Go We Go

In this heartfelt episode, Jordan takes the reins solo and shares both the joys and challenges that come with uprooting your life and moving abroad. Drawing from personal experiences in France, he reflects on everything from embracing micro routines and handling unpredictable expenses to the very real struggles of making mistakes and navigating language fatigue. You will get a candid peek into the ups and downs of daily life, coupled with relatable anecdotes about raising twins, weathering allergy season, and uncovering the not-so-glamorous reality behind those dreamy Instagram posts.

Jordan also dives deep into practical tips for protecting your mental health when living overseas: creating simple rituals, budgeting for surprises, seeking out “anchor people,” and giving yourself permission to celebrate ordinary wins. The episode emphasizes that while life abroad is often romanticized, building true stability and happiness comes from embracing the small victories and weathering inevitable frustrations with grace.

If you’re dreaming of making a big move, are in the thick of adjusting to life in a new country, or just need a boost in your day-to-day resilience, this episode is for you. We’d love to hear your thoughts or your own tips for thriving through life’s big transitions. So don’t forget to subscribe, share with a friend, and join our community on Instagram or TikTok!

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What is Away We Go We Go?

Away We Go We Go follows the journey of Sophie & Jordan Epton, an American couple who moved to France with their 10-month old twins, and the crazy adventure that follows. We dive deep into what it's really like moving and living abroad as expats, interview others who have taken the road less traveled, provide travel tips, discuss how you can do hard things to change your own life, and everything in between.

A year and a half ago, we risked it all and moved to France. We'll

be sharing about our life abroad, how people could do hard things to transform

their own lives and everything in between. This is Sophie and

Jordan Epton. Welcome to the Away We Go, We Go podcast.

And welcome back to another episode of Away We

Go, We Go. Running a solo mission

today relieved Sophie of her efforts.

This is round two. This is round two of this episode.

So I first and foremost want to

sincerely apologize for not getting this

recording out last week.

I'm gonna not take accountability for this one. I'm gonna blame it

on French wifi. Just screwed me last week and

it's kind of funny. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna touch on this because this is

kind of very much related to the episode today. But

before we get into all that, just wanted to say sorry we couldn't get something

out to you last week. We were very excited to and,

you know, nature was stronger than what we were able to deal with,

so couldn't make it happen. So. Happy to be back with you.

Couple little updates. Let's see. Last

weekend, got a chance to get the twins outside

to the park to celebrate birthday of some friends, some

older kids. They had a blast. They kind of had some life of the party

vibes going on because technically this wasn't really for little

kids. We slipped in under the radar and

the older kids got to do their older kid playing, but also were

very into the twins. And the twins were running

around like crazy people and had a good time just kind of being let loose,

running around where they saw it was okay to run around with some other big

kids. So it was really fun, had a really good time.

I also have been hit pretty, pretty aggressively with some

allergies, probably because I was out of the park. So thanks for

nothing. Nature kind of worked

me. Have only had about 75 coughing

attacks in the last two days and

working on getting over that, but I don't think that's any different from when

we were living in Austin. I never had allergies ever

till I moved to Austin and people were telling me that you're going to get

allergies. I'm like, I don't even know what that means. Don't know what it feels

like. And then I got knocked on my ass. And so now here

in the land of mold, amongst other things,

just been kicking my ass. But we're back

at it and it's okay. Made it through this weekend, this

last weekend. Since it's now Sunday night,

Sophie And I had a nice little weekend away. Got to

explore a new part of Provence that we haven't

explored before. It's about an hour east of Aix, a little over

an hour. If you kind of go slightly

northwest from where Saint Tropez is, that's where we were kind

of in the hills. Beautiful,

beautiful area. We got to check out some beautiful new places.

And so that was fun. And now we're back for one more week

before another travel stint coming up, which I'm sure

Sophie will be sharing plenty on

the Instagram account TikTok or wherever she

uploads that stuff. And, yeah, very

excited for the upcoming travel. Excited for a very

fun hang week with the twins before we're kind of gone for almost

two weeks. And

it'll. It'll be really fun and we're going to try

to keep our momentum with all of this going on. But I

think the whole recording failure from

last week and just kind of where we're at is

very relevant to what I was hoping to tackle today,

which I think it's talked about a decent

amount. We talk about it again, not from any expert

positioning, but I wanted to just share

about some of the things that we do to level

out our mental state specific to

moving abroad.

I got to call them hacks. I don't know. I'm not hack

culture. I like hacks. I like learning about hacks. I don't know if I'm

capable of providing any, but I do think that

there have been some things that

Sophie and I have kind of done and addressed throughout our

experience here over the last couple years that can really help.

I think it's really easy to romanticize the idea

of starting fresh in another country.

Sunshine and wine and cute markets, at least where we are. But

maybe you're going to somewhere more islandy

or more somewhere in Costa Rica or

Bali. I don't know. But either way,

it sounds very romantic when you want to do it. And

at the same time, underneath all that, you are away

from what's familiar and you're juggling

new language, a new financial system,

just trying to actually live in a place

sometimes where most people

from, where you are from are vacationing.

So this isn't meant to be gimmicky mind hacks

or anything. These are realistic, personal things.

Maybe some tools that can just help feel grounded while you're figuring

things out, because I think it can creep up

on you and feel a little bit difficult. So let's get into it.

First one, I think this was

something that we were both kind of aware of, but

not aware of how best to do

micro routines are much

better far superior to master plans. I think.

Forget the idea of building a perfect new life on

day one, or week one, or month one,

or may even be so bold as to say year one.

I think that you just start

really small. Start with coffee, start with a

croissant. Regardless, always start with a croissant. It

doesn't matter what you're doing, that's the best. But start with something

small. Anchor yourself with tiny

rituals. The same cafe that you go to, the

same walking path or market stroll,

the same weekly meal that you cook. I think

this can really help, just

maybe not even trick you into stability, but just give

you some sense of. I think for us it just,

it took a while to even find things that felt

like I want to return to that. I think

that was a huge part of it. You've heard us talk about

a couple of our favorite coffee shops that we go to. I'm

not like a massive coffee

enthusiast. I don't know enough about coffee.

I don't chase flavors. I'm kind

of a utility drinker. But I do like

the setting and just the time I'm giving myself for that.

Sometimes, even if I'm taking it to go, I take it to go and I

go and go for a little walk or do a couple things.

But the culture here is

to sit down and have a coffee. Even for the people that I see are

literally popping in to grab an espresso that takes them

seven seconds to drink before they actually go to work. They're still coming

in. They're spending, I don't know, five, seven, ten minutes

just sitting, maybe reading something, scrolling whatever they're doing.

And I think things like that that you find

again, if it's like there's a specific market or a specific

area of the town that you're exploring or have just

discovered that you kind of go and just take a 15

minute walk and hit the same path and it's just like

your little mindless recharge.

I think once you get a little bit

of rhythm, some of the other mental stresses that do

creep in can really

kind of ground you a bit. So

I think that's the first one. Micro routines

find the little small things that are totally worth

finding a little joy. And again, for me, whether it's coffee or I go to

the boulangerie, either on the way to dropping the twins

off or afterwards, oftentimes afterwards, because if I go before,

I got to give them a bunch of stuff. They're all hyped up. I'll do

it sometimes. Sometimes it's a me thing. And I will go get that

pound Swiss. That's the like

patisserie version of like a Long John donut, but so

much better. It's like that laminated

perfect dough with chocolate chips and like a cream that

it kind of mixes in with it. And it's. Oh, it's heavenly. Heavenly.

That, my friends, is a micro routine

that makes me so happy. And even if it's like a

crazy morning or I know something is upcoming, I have

that. It's so nice. So think

about those. But again, moving into the next

one, I'll try to keep this moving, not hover too long on anything. I

think money is just inevitable

to kind of creep up on you. And it's a massive mental stress.

Especially when you're moving abroad. It doesn't really matter if

you've come up with a plan,

allocated specific money, budgeted in a certain

way to say I'm going to budget to

live in this certain level of comfort for

six months for a year before I have to really crack down.

I'm just telling you it creeps up. Things come up, you get excited

about something, you get motivated and your money will

disappear faster than a croissant at

9am if you're not paying close attention.

There's so many just new things that you don't expect that

pop up. Sometimes it's the fun shit. You're like, I'm here,

I want to explore stuff. And then it costs money to

book something or register for something or buy a

ticket for something. But then there's other shit that comes up like

hidden bank fee costs, groceries being

a different cost than you had expected, or subscriptions that

you didn't think you were going to need. Sophie and I are

some weeks really good at this and then some weeks really

shitty at this. And whether it's because we're just

focusing on other stuff or we forget or we just really don't want to

and we don't track like

to the, to the level of detail that we should,

it just really does creep up on you and it's, it's something

that I think can add a ton of stress. And if you just

even give yourself like a 60 to 90 day

expense tracking, I think that can kill a

ton of anxiety because there's, there's so many unknowns, there's so much

changing that the financial burden and

stress that you could carry around, if you can mitigate that,

I think that's a good one. So just recognize

that there are, like, before the move,

you can only budget so far. You just don't know. Like, there's going to be

so many variables. And even when you're just getting settled, it takes

some time to, like, do something wrong where you're like,

I've been doing that for three months. That's so dumb. I just met somebody and

they told me about this, and holy shit, I'm spending way too much

on this one thing. So just be

mindful about that. But that being

said, the whole mistake thing, I think this kind of leads

into my next point, which, again, we've

talked about this a ton. You're going to make mistakes because

you don't know what you don't know. But I think

from a mindset standpoint, I don't know

where I heard this. I heard this from somebody else, but they had said,

treat your mistakes as tuition. I

fucking love that. Completely reframes the idea of

I'm going to fuck up and I'm going to feel like shit about it and/or

be embarrassed about it. Like, mistakes

are just part of the deal, and it's

okay because you're going to have awkward moments. But those

awkward moments don't have to just be failures. They can be your

tuition, they can be your investment. Think of

every misstep as a down payment toward more

fluency, more competence. Reframe it

as learning. The other day I

went into the grocery store, just one of the little markets next to

me, and there's a guy that works there that's

like a super extroverted guy. He's, like, really goofy,

just fun, nice guy. Speaks so

goddamn fast that I went in there and it was like, I just dropped the

twins off. I had to grab a couple things. Brain was

not into, hey, let's have a conversation,

especially in French. And I saw him and I walked up to him.

He's in this corner of the store where I was going. And so I extended

my hand. He extended his hand. Mine was going for a fist bump. He went

to shake my hand, then we swapped, and then he started cracking all

these jokes, and I couldn't understand a fucking thing that he said. And

he's saying them really fast and then laughing, then being

super silly. And I'm just like, yeah, no fucking clue what

you're saying, man. And just wanted to get some fruit packs for the

twins and some crackers and get the fuck out of here. And it was just

really funny because I just did that thing where I'M just

kind of laughing because he's laughing. And then try to change my

face to just mirror whatever he was doing just so he wouldn't

realize that I didn't know what he was talking about. And there was a split

second where I'm just like, oh, my God, dude, this is so awkward. I don't

know what you're saying. And then I was just like, gives a shit. Literally, who

gives a shit? And sometimes I have

the wherewithal to be in that moment and say,

doesn't even matter from understanding what they're saying. Just pick out words, just identify words.

Identify that I understand that word and then that word and then that

word. And is it enough for me to walk out of here

and try to put that sentence together? Because that's like, that's 1%

better type shit. So forget about

the mistakes being a problem and just look at them as

part of your investment. Again, treat the mistakes as tuition.

I don't know where I heard that, but I fucking love it. And I think

it's a great thing to be aware of.

One of the things that can really help with that leading into my next point,

number four is it can really help

if you can lean on somebody

and not just like an anybody thing, but

an anchor person, somebody who is local,

somebody who understands

where you're at to a degree, what you're going through, has the patience for

you. I think that that's huge because

those mistakes feel way less like

mistakes. Obviously, being social, building community

is awesome. I'm not going to lie and say that it's really

easy to do because based on your

circumstances, you'll find that it's easy to meet certain types of people.

We have young kids going to school. I spend a shit ton of time there.

That's where it's going to be easiest for me right now. When I was living

in Argentina and I was single, I could go to a salsa class, I can

go play soccer, I could go party, do whatever, and I

can meet people regularly doing that.

So, it just depends on, again,

your circumstance and what you're able to do. But

I don't think that you need immediately to

try to get this massive group of friends

again. I'm not saying that you shouldn't do that. I'm just saying

don't get overwhelmed if you building

out friendships is slow. You only need

a couple people to start. And I think having

again, at least one anchor person, a local, a

neighbor, somebody at the coffee shop or at the, the

bakery or where, whatever it is that you kind of frequent

find if it's a coworker, whoever it is,

just find somebody that like you see on the regular, they start to

recognize like, oh, you're here, I see you a lot, we're

interacting a lot. And you build that relationship, you build

that rapport. It can be so helpful. You can ask them

questions. I, I joke, you know, in French,

teacher is professor. So I always say merci

professor. Whenever one of my friends says, oh no, no, this is the word

for that, or say it like this or when they correct

me, just like a stupid, stupid joke. But

it's just reflecting on the relationship I have with

that person that they're willing to teach me stuff they're willing to.

And again, not just language related, but just life

stuff, how things work here, how to make things easier, things to

go and do that aren't super costly, that can be really fun

that them and their friends might be doing if they're working and

they're not on vacation. It's hard

to know what things aren't going to break the bank if you try to do

them all the time. But you can still have fun, et cetera. So find an

anchor person and, and invest in them.

Bring them a little treat, show gratitude.

I have a couple friends here that I try to take care of with

just little stuff here and there. Ask them if they need something or bring them,

if I know it's a busy day, I'll bring them a snack or something like

that. And it's just friendship type shit.

But I know that it's helpful for them, it means something to them

and in return they're so much more patient with me when

I'm acting the fool. So definitely an anchor

person can be very useful and just

good for your overall mood. But going into the next point,

speaking about the vacation life, I think it's normal

that I grew up in Chicago, I was living in Austin for a little bit.

If I'm going to move somewhere, I'm not moving somewhere that's a Cleveland

in another country. Like nothing against Cleveland, but

I wouldn't ever move to Cleveland myself. I don't have a reason to. I

wanted to move to the south of France. To me, that had some allure. But

this is a place where a lot of people vacation. So again, like I mentioned

earlier, if you're, you know, maybe you move to a beach town or a St.

Lucia or somewhere in Costa Rica or Bali. A place that people

are vacationing. Vacation is not real life. You

can live where people vacation, but you can't live

like you're on vacation. So

just it seems a little bit obvious, but

I just think it was relevant to call out, like, balance the

treats with the grounding choices and

just remember that like, if you

moved where you moved to live,

like you're going to have a lot of phone calls with people back home. Oh

my God, tell me what it's like, what have you been doing, where you've been

eating, where you've been going and exploring and adventuring and

you might have like a month where you ain't doing shit.

Maybe you're saving money for like a really cool bigger excursion. Or

maybe you just rented an apartment that you

had to furnish and kind of put you out for a little bit and you

got to be really tight because you needed to get this whole thing set up.

But it was worth it. So you're not going to be doing crazy

activities for a while. And I have those conversations all the time where

it's like, hey, what updates do you have for me, Jordan? And it's

like, don't just kind of been grinding and working and

taking the kids to school and doing all the things. I mean, have some updates.

But then people get really disappointed. It's like, I'm not on vacation.

I'm not going out every day and doing all these crazy things.

I have life shit to do and that's okay. But

the vacation stuff type stuff that I want to do

is very accessible and so I can still balance some of

those things. Like I said this last weekend, Sophie and I got to explore

a new part of Provence that we haven't been to. And that feels like that

exploration and adventure and checking new things out.

But going back to point two about money creeping up

on you, you can't live like you're on vacation when you're doing

real life shit. And if you want to keep your

sanity intact and your wallet intact,

just pace yourself.

You're moving abroad, if that's the thing that we're talking about.

And it's not

just to vacation even. I've met friends

in the last two plus years here. I've met multiple people

that have become friends that are doing a sabbatical where it's a temporary

visit. Some people are extending longer. Some people,

that's their time and they go back and they're trying to take

advantage while they can. But at the same time, week in and week

out, they're still working and they're still doing other stuff. Other people who've been

less in the work sabbatical are taking advantage and

doing a bunch of cool stuff. But again, also still just having

to live. They're not retired where they're like, I got

unlimited funds because I've spent my life working for this and budgeted for this

and I can do whatever I want. Which I don't know if anybody's doing that

anyways. But again, I think it just. It's totally

okay to not feel like you're doing something crazy

every day or every week. Just try to balance it a little

bit. Know that it's totally fine if you just hermit yourself

for a long time to just kind of get in the mode

of where you're living. I think that

the balancing act of everything from

money to mindset to vacation versus real

life stuff, there are some other

things that can be kind of heavy. And language

fatigue is a huge one. Obviously relevant

if you're moving to a country where it's not your native language,

not actually speaking to learning

the new language, but actually protecting your native

language time as well. Language fatigue is real,

not just mental, but physical. Physical. I remember my

experience with learning French is different than what it

was. Learning Spanish in Buenos Aires when I was living there,

that was super intense for me. When I

was in Argentina, I was taking

Spanish classes three hours a day, four days a week

for four months straight. Then I moved into the residencia,

which had 30 Argentinians, two

Colombians and me. And when I was

really immersing myself, I was

trying all day, every day to speak as much Spanish as I

possibly could. And I had the means to be able to do it

again. Right now I have young twins, we speak mostly English at home.

And I'm working and I speak a lot of English for work.

So I don't have the same opportunity and exposure

for speaking French all day like I did. So when I was

learning Spanish, I would come home from

like a day of work where I was still teaching English, but they were like

hour long sessions. But the rest of the time it was full on

Spanish, going to class. I would come home at like

6pm Something like that. I would be fucking

torched. Like my body would be dead because my

mind was in overdrive. And it is just really

exhausting and uncomfortable a lot of the time.

And I think the whole point of this is

it's totally okay to just binge Netflix series in

your own language and be guilt free

about it. You know, use of your native tongue is

actually brain recovery. It's not regression

like exercising and working out. You can take a rest day,

maybe A rest week, maybe you work out seven weeks straight and you

take a week off. Again, not a fitness trainer. So I don't know

what's good or bad for you, but I do know that rest is essential

and it's okay to recharge and then come back

and feel stronger, be stronger. And I think from a language

perspective, it's the same thing. Put effort into learning the language, but

then don't feel guilty when you want to

call friends from home or have an

expat outing where you can speak your native language.

I think that that's really important. And there's no

full on black or white where you move to the new country and you can

only speak that language forever. Otherwise you're a piece of

shit. It's just not the case. Right?

It's totally fine to meet friends

that speak your language and just have those experiences.

So I think it's important to protect while you're putting in

the effort to learn the language of country that you're living in,

if it's different than your native tongue. I think

going into my next point, all

of these things kind of like tie into this and lead up

to it coming out of the language. Talk here.

It can be really frustrating. And I think it's really important

to have a frustration exit strategy.

This is like when you're seeing

red or you're getting a headache,

or you're overly embarrassed and just exhausted from that

feeling, or things just aren't working. It's

really good to have an exit strategy.

Talk about frustrating. There's just so many things that

come up that are frustrating. And if you're like,

eyes are blaring red or you're just like so exhausted or

you just fucking cry because you're like, I don't even know what

else to do. I don't know what emotion to feel right now.

And I just like can't deal with this.

Have some outlets, some

exit strategies for your stress and your frustration

where you can just totally

reset and recharge yourself. I think

it's so important to have that. Call home,

call family, call friends, go on a

walk. This might come as a shock to you, but I might

suggest going and getting a croissant because that pretty much solves

everything. Nearly everything in the world can be solved by a

croissant. But the point is, don't let

a single frustration wreck your whole day.

This is obviously not just for living abroad,

this is for anything that you're doing that is hard if you're

starting a new business or new company or a new job

or a new relationship or whatever it is.

Don't let one thing completely derail you.

Have some rituals that can be

a guilt free exit

strategy and outlet for you.

Again, for me, whether it's coffee, whether it's playing music,

calling friends from home, stealing away

Sophie for a quick date night, something like that, just something to

look forward to. Something that's like, I need to have this

around weekly at my fingertips, whether it's

scheduled or not. I need to be ready for this because I'm

running into a bunch of shit. And if it just totally

derails you mentally, that can

last for way longer than you'll want it to. So I think having

these little outlets can be super beneficial.

I want to tie the next point. I don't have a savvy

fucking transition into this. But I want to go back to the social

kind of outlook. I think I'm going to double

down on go slow. Go slow for the social

side of things. There can be this like feeling

of like being on the hunt for instant

besties. And it's really easy to do a lot

if you even put in minimal effort because you're

going to meet people that are in a similar situation as you and

that can really warrant a really

healthy interaction and you can make friends really quickly.

But I think one of the challenging things when

you make a big move is

already referenced this in this episode, that

it's very transient what we're doing,

right? And so you might meet a

really fucking cool person that is at the tail end of

their experience or they're about to move or

they're just traveling through and you happen to meet them at a time when they

were posting up for a handful of days. And it

can be really awesome to meet people

like that. And then it can be really sad

because you'll meet some awesome people. And then

it's like, oh man, this is a cool experience. But yeah, we're moving

back or we're moving on to the next location

or they're not even living there, they're just traveling through and you

meet them and have good experiences. And it can be really hard because you

feel like you have to continually reset your

social circle and that can be really

taxing on your mental state. And I

think a good way to kind of level that

side of your mental state out is just go slow, join

low pressure groups, language exchanges or

different clubs, different meetups for different

things, go on hikes or walks and be a regular

somewhere. But let friendships build

slowly and naturally again. Depends on your

situation, where you were coming from before a move like this. But

you might have been where home has always been. You

might be where you went to college or

you're really good friends with a lot of people that you work with. And

it's just really easy, it's built in to have these social

circles and multiple social circles that overlap

and you'll still find that. But again, it's just,

it can be different. And I think if you pace yourself

and say, I'm doing this experience for me, so

whether or not I'm being social and checking out a new museum

or going on a hike or hitting this beach up with new

friends, like sometimes you will,

sometimes you won't. But I think that awareness

of the guilt, that

maybe guilt's not even the best thing, but we'll go with that for now. The

guilt that could come along with it can just make you feel

like you're not doing good enough, you're not being social enough.

And I think building friendships

in general is like a really cool experience,

but it just doesn't happen with everyone. So take

your time and

don't hold yourself to some crazy standard that just

because you were crazy social and have a shit ton of friends somewhere that

that's just going to happen immediately. Because it could.

And then it could disappoint you if it's transient or people kind of change and

move on, or best case scenario, it

works really great and you can just write me and tell me to go fuck

myself. Be like, maybe you're a weirdo and it's way easier to

make friends and maintain them than it is for you, Jordan.

So noted. Received. Appreciate the feedback and

the honesty. Don't be a dick. Point.

Let's go to point. Are they points? Bullet number

nine, work. Not everybody's working.

But again, talking about the whole livelihood thing, if you're going to stay for an

extended period of time, you're going to be working. If not, and you're like a

trust fund person, good for you. Props to you.

I am not that we are not that majority of us are

not that we have to work. Got to find your way. However,

work can also be an anchor, not a

burden. I think that your

identity, again, you're moving abroad, right? Or

doing something big and new and scary.

There's some element of that that will be

your identity work. I think people

sometimes have a fear that if they're not, if it's

not their company, if they're not obsessed with their job, that it's a job

and it's not their identity. And they're very, you know, people can be,

I think, general pretty sensitive to

having work be their identity. But I think in

a situation like this, treating work as

structure alongside identity

when everything else feels in flux can give

you a really steady base. I think this is just a perspective thing,

but I think work can be one of those things that again,

maybe the work that you're doing is something brand

new based on your circumstances of moving, but

for a lot of people where it's not that work doesn't have

to be a burden that's taking you away from doing cool shit. It can be

the stability that allows your brain to rest a little bit

while you're focusing on doing the stuff that you know.

I think work gives you structure and it can just be really helpful

to have that, but to stay motivated. And

this is going to be my last point. You also have to celebrate.

Got to celebrate the small victories. Celebrate not

just small victories, but celebrate ordinary wins.

Like celebrate shit that you wouldn't celebrate

back home. Opening up a bank

account, finding that

route to shortcut to get

you to this place you've been going to for weeks on end or months on

end and you finally found the shortcut. Or you opened a bank account or you

got a SIM card for your phone. Little

things that are like, yeah, I have to do this, but

it's so worth it to just celebrate ordinary shit.

I'll be honest with you, I pat myself on the back all the fucking time

because I'm proud of myself. Also because Sophie is very

high functioning and she's just good at doing shit. So for me, I'm just like,

hey, I did something good too. But

these ordinary wins, these simple wins, these things that

you just kind of figure out new shit, you

ordered lunch or took a phone call. In the language that

you're learning, you've figured out

transit in a good way. These are

milestones and you should document them and you should

celebrate them. I'm not saying you got to call your friends back home and

say, I just did an ordinary thing because they're going to be like,

great. Unless they're super supportive friends and they're like, hey, that's pretty

cool that you did that in a new country where you didn't speak the language

and it's bright, brand new for you and hey, that's great. You're like

figuring shit out again. It sounds silly, but

this is the capital that you want to have

to refer to

when you're feeling really stressed out. You can have a shitty

day and then still be proud of yourself for still pushing and

trying something. So celebrate ordinary wins.

Do these things that again, you would never celebrate for

yourself, but you deserve to celebrate that

because it's a hard thing that you're doing.

So I love the idea of celebrating

having kind of planned out this whole episode. It

just got me excited because whenever I do get

to have personal conversations with other expats,

with people that we've met from this podcast or from the Instagram account

who've moved here or had just reached out, it's

like this kind of stuff comes up all the time. It's

not so much to just complain about the things that are hard, but

hard things happen and leveling

your mindset and your mental state.

It's just so important. So that was my list of 10.

You know, again, it's not about eliminating stress.

It's just about building enough small anchors, routines,

awareness, relationships, resets,

things that you can actually enjoy

the adventure with instead of being

crushed by it. When maybe you have a day where

you made three mistakes, or maybe in one week

you make two really colossal mistakes that force you

to do shit you don't want to do, or pay a

lot of money or whatever it is, just

use these small anchors, whichever ones make the most sense for

you. I'm always open to an upgrade, so if you have suggestions, reach

out. But I think this is a pretty solid list of just

being mentally aware and having permission

to say, yeah, it's okay that I fucked this up

and feels like a really big fuck up, but

I'm going to deal with it, I'm going to get through it, but I'm not

going to let it crush me and completely eat

my day or my week. Moving abroad will

always have its challenges, but I think if you do stack

some of these little habits, you'll find yourself

really doing better than

you ever thought you would. In my brain, I just went

to the whole, you're not just surviving, you're thriving. I think it's played out,

but at the same time it's kind of relevant

because there's a lot of survival in a move like this.

But I think that when you find these little

things, these little routines, and you give yourself the grace to

enjoy them and know that it's

okay to enjoy stuff even if you made

a massive mistake, even if you made a massive mistake that

impacted other people, it's still

okay to just level yourself out so

that you can continue to be the best version of yourself. All right, I. I

feel like I'm in the Sophie saying land the plane

part of this episode. So I'm going to wrap it up by saying

thank you. Thanks for tuning in. Thank you for your patience. Thanks for your

understanding that we missed last week. We've been really

pushing ourselves and and working really hard

to deliver on time and get really

valuable quality information

sharing. Again, I'm hoping that it's coming across that way

that you listener are finding good shit from this to

help. I hope things resonate, but again,

really appreciate the opportunity to even do this

and to hear feedback that we've heard. And

again, thanks for your patience and letting us slip on a week and

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