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Spartan Red Zone breaks down everything happening in the world of Michigan State University football.
Welcome everyone to episode 5 of Spartan red zone. I am your host, Oscar Henderson, alongside my cohost, Tim Marshall, Jodes, Derek Mitchell. Guys, how are we feeling after the first full weekend of college football? Lots of entertaining games that we had. How was the weekend, and how are you guys feeling today?
Tim:Feeling good. Watched a lot of college football. Too many games to count. It's good to be back. Good to just be it's it's feeling like fall right here in East Lansing right now, so I'm I'm just happy that we're finally get back back into the swing of football.
Joe:I would just like everyone listening to the show to forget all of my FSU predictions I made in the first episode. That was not me. That was fully made up.
Derrick:I am excited to be back. I watched a lot of football. I had to skip through a lot of bunch of games at the same time. Just switching commercials every single time to go to a different game. But I'm happy to be back.
Derrick:Happy to be in I'd be in the Spartan stadium and just be back in the
Joe:setting of all football. It's great.
Oscar:Yes. ESPN, please fix the commercial to football ratio. There is a outrageous it is getting outrageous at this point. We are watching more commercials than actual football. I plead that we fix this, please, as soon as possible, but, nonetheless, we got to cover the MSU FAU game on Friday.
Oscar:Derek and, Tim both wrote articles about the game after. Make sure you go check make sure you guys go check those out on the Impact website, and me and Joe also got to broadcast the game as well. You can get highlights of that broadcast on the WDM Sports Twitter. And if you want to, you can listen to the full broadcast on the YouTube. That is WDM Sports as well, but we are gonna do a recap of the game right here now as MSU escaped with a 16 to 10 victory on Friday over FAU.
Oscar:Jonathan Smith's first win as MSU head coach, kind of an ugly one. We are gonna start with the positives, some of the positive outtakes that we had on this game. We're gonna start first with what I think everyone thought was a positive from the game. That defense looked phenomenal, and especially that front 7 looked very phenomenal. Joe Rossi made a statement in his first game as defensive coordinator for Michigan State, holding FAU to what seemed like not that many offensive yards and, of course, 10 points as a whole, something that we didn't see a lot on the defense last year.
Oscar:Guys, what were your takes from the defense? What impressed you the most about it, and what do we see? What do we expect? Do we expect this to continue out throughout the rest of the season?
Tim:Well, I I was very pleased just of what I saw from defensive line. The one maybe thing that you could kinda criticize them about was, FAU's QB being able to get out of the pocket and make some plays on his feet. But when they were able to keep him in the pocket, they ended up getting a few sacks, 2 interceptions. When they kept them in, it they the defense looked really good.
Joe:I like the front 7. The penalty numbers were not pretty, but the whole league is getting adjusted to the sliding rules. They're we're a lot of late slides by Cam Fancher, to put it simply. And trying to avoid those hits when your body's going full momentum right into them is near impossible. But Dequandaos as well as Ken Talley, they both brought so much pressure, and I was very impressed by them.
Joe:The secondary couldn't improve, but I think that front 7 is looking nice.
Derrick:The front 7 is looking great. One thing I really like about Jar Rossi compared to last year is he had a lot of different schemes, a lot of different players and linebackers who were in different places. Different people were rushing, fake rushing, blitzing in different places. So I really confused Cam Fanshawe in the office, which made him run a lot. So that was kind of a double edged sword, but I really enjoyed watching the front 7 and how they played it, and they really got to the quarterback, which honestly isn't something that I'm used to seeing when Michigan State in the last 2 years.
Oscar:Definitely 2, big shout outs for that game go to Dequan Dallas and Chris Bogle who are causing a lot of chaos on that defensive line. Macraff Hanson had a little bit of a hand in that too, but those 2 were the main, havoc causers, I would say, on that line. Let's go to another positive, the only positive that I could really find on the offensive side of the ball. MSU may have themselves another elite transfer quarterback or running back as Kieron Lynch Adams had himself quite a game against FAU on Friday going 9, 9 attempts for a 103 yards, had a huge 63 yard run to give MSU their 2nd touchdown of the night, had an average about 11.2 runs. Guys, he's really stepped up when Nate Carter had kind of an off night himself going 19 for 52 yards with only 2 and a half yards per carry.
Oscar:He looked very dominant too. Like, he was a a very physical running back, really hard to take down by FAU defenders, it looks like. I I mean, this guy looks pretty legit, and, I mean, still even outside of that 6 23 yard gain, he still had about 5 and a half yards per carry, which is still, I mean, pretty good for a running back. So what did you guys like from Kieron Lynch Adams, and do you, what do you expect from him throughout the rest of the year as well?
Tim:Yeah. He's a really hard runner. He even before that, 63 yarder, there was a a call a a running play that got blown dead for forward progress that he bounced out after the whistle and was able to get the touchdown. So, yeah, he plays through the whistle. He's a hard running running back, and that's what you need.
Tim:Earlier in last episode, I mentioned that he could be maybe a, more of a 1, 2 punch with Carter instead of Carter being the main guy. I I think there'll be a split maybe, like, a 60, 40, 70, 30 type thing with them. But, yeah, when when he when they need him, he's done pretty good.
Joe:Yeah. He's in a 6 year of college right now, but in in the 1st 4 years, he got 206 carries total. He he's got fresh knees. He's someone who has come out, and you can see it when he runs. He'd he's just so active.
Joe:He is able to find the lanes that he's supposed to find. And on that big run, you could see him high stepping, breaking tackles. I think that he just brings a different aspect than Nate Carter. Nate Carter is a lot more shifty. The speed is debatable.
Joe:I would still say Carter is a little bit faster, but Lynch Adams is pretty close. And I I really like what him and Carter can add as a dynamic duo instead of just being 1 or the other.
Derrick:Most football teams is not how I always have a 1, 2 punch or 2 running backs that are a little bit different. One's One's faster, a little bit quicker, maybe shift you in other ways. The one's more of a power runner, and I feel like Michigan State finally has that now instead of having one running back take on all the load. So I really like Lynch Adams. He's quick.
Derrick:He's quick on his feet. He can go left to right really fast. He's lateral. His lateral movements are great, and he can always just take off when he wants to. His top and speed is awesome.
Derrick:And if he's at the goal on our line of scrimmage, he's gonna be able to punch that in for an easy touchdown. So if Carter's running for long yards and get stopped, they can put in Lynch Adams, and they can get an easy touchdown. So that 1, 2 punch is gonna be
Oscar:amazing this year. Definitely. Speaking of that 1, 2 punch that kinda goes into our negatives from the game, the offense outside of Kieron Lynch Adams kinda struggled. Chiles didn't look too impressive, to start how his first game at Michigan State went 10 of 24, a 114 yards, 2 interceptions, 0 touchdowns, sacked one time. And Nate Carter himself, as I said, did not have quite did not have himself a good game either.
Oscar:19 19 attempts, 52 yards. Again, only 2 and a half carry or 2 and a half yards per carry. For 1, I think the Carter part, a lot of it ended up being on the offensive line. He did not have any holes to really run out of. Really, the only holes that were being produced by the offensive line were for Kayron Lynch Adams, especially on that touchdown run.
Oscar:But when it seemed like Carter got the ball, it was a lot of 2 yards and a lot of block sheds early on from the offensive line. But even outside of that too, the the passing game, which we thought maybe could be a real threat, especially with Vealing and Montori Foster, on the outside. It did not show up at all, especially those 2 guys, at the wide receiver and tight end spot. What obviously, I don't think this was quite what we were expecting, from the offense, especially with Charles' quote earlier in the week telling us to take the over, on the game. So, what were your thoughts?
Oscar:What are your feelings continuing or going forward on the MSU offense and kinda yeah. What do we expect to see next week?
Tim:Well, with Chow specifically, I I thought I mean, that first play, that's a tough one. Can't really blame that one on him. And then he bounced back. He was 5 for 7 for 57 yards on his next 7 attempts. And then after that, he was 5 for 16.
Tim:So it it really just it it went downhill in the second half. There wasn't enough easy throws for him to make. And when there were easy throws, I I remember one where one of the tight ends was in the flat wide open, had an easy first half.
Oscar:It was feeling. I'm
Tim:pretty sure. Yeah. It was Yeah. Yeah. He just he put it out
Joe:his feet, and he couldn't make
Tim:the play. So, like, there were a couple of players where I think he just was a little too quick, just not really settled in, and then a couple that you can't really blame him on. But I I think all in all, it's a learning experience, and he should be better looking forward.
Joe:Yeah. For a quarterback who's 18 years old and last year didn't throw a single interception, didn't really have any turnover when you throw it on your first play on a new team, I think that really affected his confidence. I'd he wasn't looking at the same receivers or he wasn't looking at receivers the same way that he was at the beginning of the game. He was going through his progressions. He was going slow at the beginning, and then at the end, he was forcing it.
Joe:He would at at one point, he would just throw it deep on the right side down a seam every single time and air it out 50 yards and not get anywhere near the receiver. I think that if he can just stay out of his head and and stay playing the game the way he's supposed to be, it's gonna be a lot better for him. He did have that rushing touchdown, which was nice to see, but the passing was not there in the second half. And I think that it's gonna be a big bounce back game for him against Maryland.
Derrick:You can tell it's gonna be a learning experience for Charles. I mean, Smith coming into the game in the beginning, he was like, he might be a little nervous a little bit, and, honestly, it doesn't help a quarterback. If you're coming in, this is your first game at a new school, new schedule. You have 61 new players on your team that you don't really know that well. You haven't played a game with them.
Derrick:You just played a spring game. And honestly, it doesn't really count. It's not full live game action. So you really need to he's nervous already, and he kinda had to move his nerves down a little bit, and that didn't help him. So when he came in, he didn't have as many good reason.
Derrick:Once a couple of things start to fail, a lot can fail coming in out of the second half. So, honestly, Charles just needs time. And I think if he can start going through those progressions, going through his reads, and, honestly, just trusting himself a little bit more, if he trusts himself. And if the coach starts to trust him a little bit more too, and they have that same dynamic, which they've had over the off season, I think Charles can really go far.
Oscar:And and when you talk about trust too, I I wanna put in the fact that that receiving court also did not really help him at all. Yeah. Of course. I mean, the early drop from Montori Foster, he struggled a lot in that first quarter, had that drop that ended up being an interception, had another drop that could have been a touchdown, and then had a catch and a fumble in the red zone all in the Q1 as well. But then even just outside of Montori Foster, no one else really stepped up in his place, and kinda took over that game.
Oscar:And so I I think something that has to be, you know, stated as well is I I think the wide receiver core, especially for how veteran it's, it is and, you know, how much potential it has, I think they kind of failed Aiden Childs in a sense, in not giving him the sort of, blanket that he should have as a young quarterback, and he didn't really, I think, have a chance to sort of trust the guys that he was throwing to. And, you know, when that's sort of broken off, that could really derail an offense, and that's sort of, I think, what we saw against FAU. Yeah.
Tim:Oh, I was gonna say, I think for FAU, I think a lot of playbook was open trying to test real things in action. I think when like, next week when you have a big time opponent like Maryland, they'll I hope they kinda shorten it up, maybe go 2 tight ends, cycle in the running backs, really depend on the run, and then play off the play action because the play action was really good in this first game. It wasn't always it created opportunities. Those opportunities just weren't cashed in.
Joe:Yeah. I the fact that the backup tight end was a leading receiver for the team, Mike Mazounis, is not the best, but the number one receiver, as you said just a moment ago, Oscar, he had 2 turnovers in the Q1. He had multiple drops. That's not gonna inspire confidence in 18 year old quarterback. And now Alante Brown out most of the season, if not the entire season, they're gonna need to find somebody to step up.
Joe:And you gotta wonder how much they start looking at the young guys like Nick Marsh pulling them in a little bit more, playing them more steps if they're gonna end up catching the ball and just playing, making better plays.
Oscar:Yeah. Definitely. But speaking of which, Tim, you mentioned, that play calling a little bit and how it's gonna look in Maryland. We should talk a little bit into our that goes into our next point here about the play calling that we saw against FAU. We had, some questions about it, to say the least, especially when it came to the clock management.
Oscar:Near the end of the game, it seemed like Jonathan Smith and company had a chance to put away FAU after Tom Herman used his, timeouts early ahead of the 2 minute warning. But instead, on second and long, they decided to air out a 30 yard deep ball, to Jaron Glover down the left sideline, which about took, I believe, 6 seconds off the clock, 6 or 7, when you could've took in about 40 to 45 seconds, with a short run up, up up the middle, and then there was another play call in which they decided to go for it on 4th and 1 while up 16 10 as well. Did not get it. Had a chance to extend it to a 2 possession game there. Go up 19 to 10.
Oscar:Walked away with 0 points there. I I know I don't think I I disagreed with both of those play calls. I thought they should've went with 3 there, when they were in the red zone instead of going for it on 4th down, especially with how that 4th down and the offensive line in that half was playing. And I also think that they should have ran the ball there too to milk the clock. They had the win there, I think, in the bag, and they kinda just wasted away.
Oscar:And, luckily, they caught a break by the defense, which was seemed like the story of the game was the defense coming in time and time again to save this team. But, I mean, what were some of your guys' thoughts about the play calling? And, I mean, is this sort of a trend do you think we're gonna see with Jonathan Smith?
Tim:Well, yeah, I mean, it would be hypocritical if we said it wasn't a bad move. We were watching the Colorado game on Thursday when we're recording, and we were saying, Deion Sanders, what are you doing right here? They had a chance to do the same exact thing, and they didn't. And going back to MSU, that drive, I think it was 15 or 20 seconds. It was not what you want when you're trying to close out a game.
Tim:So that that's you can't be doing that. And then once again with the, with the field goal, I mean, no like, the the difference in a a touchdown and a field goal there isn't really it was about it's about getting it to Yeah. 2 possessions, especially that late in the game. So, yeah, some interesting play call decisions, say the least, hopefully. I mean, it's the first time for Jonathan Jonathan Smith too to be in a role where you're making those quick decisions since last November.
Tim:I think it's something that take into account that, like, it's a they're in games for everyone. Like, this is the first time he's coaching in a while.
Joe:That was one of the few play calls where I thought it should have been obvious to go for a field goal. It's very rare that the difference is gonna be 6 or 9. It's well, 6 is if they get a score and then they get an extra point, they got the lead against you, but 9 is an entirely different two possession game. I think that coach Smith was probably trying things out a little bit this game. He knew that FAU compared to the rest of the people on the schedule aren't the toughest team overall.
Joe:They played them very tough. They got it very close the entire game, but overall, it was a 4 and 18 last year and not the strongest conference. And I think that he was trying to get a little bit of the jitters out, maybe try out seeing whether the team could handle those type of situations in case it does come up in big games. But I think after the results yesterday, he has to play a little bit more conservatively on the play calling.
Derrick:I think it was definitely a trial run this year, this game, especially for Smith and for the players. He wanted to test how mentally they can be locked in at the end of the game. If you make a call like that, which is like throwing a deep ball going for 4th and 1, how can this team actually respond to it? How good can Charles lead and stuff like that? He said at the end of the press conference that he was just testing a bunch of things that was more of a trial run, and he put that all on himself.
Derrick:He did he laid it off a child's because Charles took credit, and that's good for him. But he came in there and he was like, this is just this is on me. I called those plays, and I'm gonna take responsibility for that. And I'm gonna come in next week and prep a little bit differently, and that's we had to get to work right now is what he said. Yeah.
Speaker 5:He said we only
Derrick:take 24 hours, and I'm getting back to work. So he really wants to change the dynamic of it. He's gonna dial back against Maryland. Big time play, but that was a big trial run game.
Oscar:Yeah. He was definitely I I know he was questioned, during his interviews about that play calling in. I know he said, yeah. That was on me. That was my mistake.
Oscar:I was a little too aggressive on there, so I do like that he owned up to it and, you know, in hindsight realized, hey. That was not the correct move. That's always what you like to look at. But the last point I wanna touch on during this game, the defense, while it was, you know, fantastic in its own right, it also felt very, very undisciplined at the same time too. They had 12 penalties overall for a 140 yards.
Oscar:Malik Spencer had a targeting very early in the game, which ejected him, and Jordan, Turner also almost had a targeting. Luckily, it was overturned, but, nonetheless, a lot of those penalties and a lot of those unnecessary roughness type penalties kept happening to the defense, and it was something that was, you know, very, very apparent to what to see throughout the entire game that they were not I again, very disciplined. A lot of that did have to do with how Fancher was sliding throughout the game. He was going very late, and, you know, waiting till the last possible second until he was falling down, and a lot of that does have to come with week 1. First time, they're actually facing contact for the most part against another team.
Oscar:But that, again, it is a real big problem when it's 12 penalties for a 140 yards. I mean, that is no shy. I I believe that was almost half of FAU's dartics throughout the entire game was from penalties. And, obviously, with the teams that they are playing down the road, you can't afford to give them half of their offensive yardage through penalties. You are going to lose that game 9 times out of 10 in most of the games that they play this year.
Oscar:So what did we kinda see that maybe they, it was just week 1 jitters, and, they can get it right? Or is this something to, you know, keep an eye out, and maybe this is a coaching problem that we're gonna have throughout the rest of the season?
Tim:I I don't think it's that big of a deal. Obviously, you don't wanna see that many penalties, but coach Smith said this after it was a lot of 15 yarders. And I mean, say you have 12 penalties for and they're all 5 yards. That's only 60. So you you gotta look at it like, yeah, maybe they were a little too aggressive, but it's also the first time they're they've been playing against each other going simulated reps.
Tim:So now when you can really lay the hammer down and hit some people, you wanna do that, especially, like, the home crowd is packed, like, just that energy. You get so amped up that sometimes you might go a little after the whistle. And, to the the Turner hit where, oh, he luckily avoided the targeting. He also was penalized 30 yards on that one with the late hit and the, excessive so or whatever unsportsmanlike. Yeah.
Tim:So, like, adding that is is never great.
Joe:Yeah. What makes me feel a lot better about it is this is not just an MSU problem. This is a lot of teams in the nation during week 1's problem. They're coming out. They wanna take heads off.
Joe:It's been a long summer. They've been training. But, also, look at Maryland's game. Yukon. Jordan Wright, end up getting injected because he end up having a targeting call on the Maryland QB.
Joe:A late slide there, a lot of debate was had over Twitter, a lot of debate, and over a lot of websites. And, when you look at the late slide rule is so complex because you have to give the quarterback a chance to give themselves up. But when you're already in the motion, your shoulders are already down, you're taught to go low, you're taught to go for the legs, take them out, and obviously not go for the legs, but wrap around lower body and take them down. But when you're sliding, that changes it from being them going for your hips and your waist to them going for your neck and your head. And they're gonna have to find a middle ground between the 2.
Derrick:It's honestly so difficult when you're going that fast and you're rushing a quarterback and he's sliding that way. It's like, you don't have a lot of time to think about, am I gonna hit him in the face, head? I just have to go hit him. So you just kinda have you have to think about it in a way, but you don't have a lot of time to do that, so you're probably gonna hit him anyway. So those targeting calls, I'm not really worried about him.
Derrick:Obviously, coach Moose said he's gonna have to dial it back and talk to his team, and Chris Bogle was out on the, press conference, and he said that he's gonna have to dial it back as well. But he said he wasn't really mad about it. He said he's just gonna have to dial it back on his own, but he's gonna try to lay the boom because, honestly, that's what he is. He's a linebacker. He's gonna try to do that.
Derrick:So every single person, every single player on the team is just on defense is gonna have to try to do that, and that's they've been
Speaker 5:taught this entire time.
Derrick:That's the Jawahas defense. That's what he wants to do. He wants to rush as hard as possible and get as many hits as possible, but the penalties are gonna be dialed back.
Oscar:Love how refreshing that sounds for a defense to play aggressive as an MSU fan.
Tim:No. We'll just settle back. We'll throw for 400 yards. Yeah.
Oscar:We'll just we won't we won't rush them at all. It's no big deal. But that'll do it for the recap of the FAU game. Next weekend, MSU will go to College Park to take on the Maryland Terrapins. Me and Joe will be on the call there.
Oscar:Joe will be on play by play. I will be doing color with that. That will go live at 3 o'clock for our pregame and 3:30 for the game. Tim and Derek will also have stories on the game as well, but we will now go into the world of college football and look at some week 1 games that happened as well as Jacob Bauer joins us here a little late as well. Jacob, how are you doing today?
Jacob:Doing great. Is my mic on?
Oscar:Yes. You're
Speaker 5:on. Cool on.
Jacob:I'm doing awesome. Just got back. Feeling good.
Oscar:Yes. So now we are gonna talk about some other week one games that happened around the world of college football. We are gonna start with the first game that kicked off the Saturday slate. Clemson went down to Atlanta to play Georgia in the Aflac kickoff classic and got absolutely annihilated by the bulldogs. Not even close.
Oscar:34 to fleet 34 to 3 was 6 nothing at half, and then the dogs just absolutely ran away with it. Guys, a lot of talk about this game is how just outmatched Clemson looked out on the field against Georgia. I mean, for a team that is coached by what some argue was the 2nd greatest coach of the 4 team college football playoff era in Dabo Sweeney, For them to come out there and and look the way they did on Saturday, it was it was a rough, rough look, something that I expected, going into this season as, you know, this seems like the same old Clemson to me. Nothing had changed. Dabo still isn't using the portal, still isn't using NIO.
Oscar:He's still gonna lose. That's my philosophy, and that seemed to be the philosophy that got him this humongous l in in Atlanta, but what are some of your thoughts, from you guys on this game, and, yeah, what do we think about Clemson's hopes in the ACC going forward this year?
Tim:Well, this was a tough game. I was originally on Clemson. I I flipped, like, early, like, early or late morning on on Saturday. I was like, you know what? Georgia is they are just a wagon.
Tim:They this is what they do. They haven't lost a a regular season game, and I think they have one of the longest streaks going right now. So, yeah, they're just gonna be them. But this reminds me a lot of the, from 2 years ago when they played Oregon, and they just they beat him 49 to 3 in at in Atlanta. So, like, very similar spot, but Oregon downs back.
Tim:They won, I think, 6 or 7 straight games. They finished 9 and 3. I don't see why Clemson can't do that. It doesn't count as an ACC loss. ACC has been beat up.
Tim:Virginia Tech losing a Vandy.
Oscar:Wide open this year.
Tim:It's wide open. So and that loss doesn't count for him. I mean, Florida State 0 and 2. So they still have a good shot. They still have the guys up there.
Tim:Like, they held in for half. It was only 6 nothing at halftime, so it wasn't a total blowout. I I think they'll still they'll find a way to turn it around.
Joe:Yeah. Clemson's schedule isn't too hard for the rest of the season. They should still have pretty good season overall, but Georgia is just top dog. It's been obvious the last few years. They have done this to so many different teams.
Joe:It's not too shocking to me overall.
Tim:And if they can win that ACC, they're the 4th seed. Exactly. So, like, say and say Georgia or and say Georgia loses an SCC championship, they could still be ranked higher with having a worse record and losing head to head. That's crazy.
Derrick:That is insane to even think about. Yeah. Clemson didn't I mean, going against Georgia is just honestly, it's just a sentence for your demise. I don't really know how you're gonna do that. I mean, Carson Beck do for 278 yards with 2 tighties, and he was running all over the field.
Derrick:He looked very mobile, and he looked great as well. He was throwing dots all over the field, and his receivers are amazing. The defense is dominant as Georgia is. So it was just it was just like a David and Goliath type of situation, but Clemson can come into this year and just keep winning those games. And if they go 9 and do 10 and 3 and they get in the playoffs and they're a little bit more battle tested, they have a little bit more reps behind them to play another team like Georgia in the playoffs, they could actually do something.
Jacob:I mean, I told you guys, last time we met that I did not think this was gonna be a game. And honestly, I was surprised how close it was at half. It was only 6 to nothing. I'm like, maybe we do have a game on our hands, but Georgia's just that good. They're on a tier of their own.
Jacob:For Clemson, I just think they're gonna be the same as they were last year. Just another 8 and 4 team loss here when they're I mean, it's not gonna be a total breakdown for the Tigers, but I just don't see much success. I still don't think they're gonna make the playoffs.
Oscar:Yeah. I agree with Jacob here. I don't think they're gonna make the playoffs either, especially because of a team we're gonna talk about a little bit later, on the slate here, who I think is gonna absolutely roll them, the two times that they play them, if they even play 2 times, if they possibly meet the ACC championship.
Tim:They don't they're not on the regular season schedule.
Oscar:Oh, they're not? No. Oh, so maybe the one time.
Jacob:We just have some mind reading going on right now. Maybe the one time.
Oscar:Maybe the one time. But we're gonna move on to the other noon game that kicked off the college football slate on Saturday. That finished at,
Tim:like, 6 o'clock.
Oscar:That finished at 6 o'clock due to a store a 2 hour storm in the Q3 that can't that delayed the game. PSU went into Morgantown and destroy West Virginia who was kind of a dark horse to possibly make some noise in the big twelve. P s u 130 floor 212. Drew Aller, I'm sorry. I was not familiar with your game.
Oscar:What a job he did of dismantling that mountaineer's defense. 11 for 17, 216 yards, 3 touchdowns really pushed the ball down the field. Nick Singleton, as we all know, what the great hat back from PSU, 13 carries a 114 yards. One touchdown, he did his thing. That defense, as I figured, looked physical, really beat up on West Virginia's offense.
Oscar:Guys, this Penn State team, especially with how some other teams in the big ten looked this week, they're looking they're looking kinda scary now.
Tim:Yeah. When I was doing my, my big ten preseason power rankings, I was looking into Penn State. I I really wasn't that high on them, especially Drew Aller. And but then it was 25 touchdowns with 2 interceptions last year. The way he was talked about, it did not seem like that because he had 2 bad games against big teams.
Tim:If he can be settle in, he settled in in this first game, new offensive coordinator as well. It really looked different for him. He was making some he was making some pro level throws.
Speaker 5:Yeah. A lot
Joe:more potential in Allor than I ever had thought last year. He is just pretty damn amazing. And then the defense came through as well. Penn State is gonna be one of the top teams that league this year.
Derrick:I have to complete agree. Penn State's gonna be something honestly special. They could creep up in that 3rd spot because, honestly, Michigan, like, didn't look that amazing. I would say that obviously it's probably gonna be number 1, but there's just a kind of an up and air thing. Oregon didn't look that amazing view.
Derrick:This is an up in the air. Honestly, slot for that 3rd spot in the big ten so they can easily take it because their defense is very, very good, and that's one of the most important things in their offense now. It's looking like it's clicking. They have a lot of weapons on that side. So, honestly, it's anybody's game, but Penn State could be that 3rd slot.
Jacob:I'm, tooting my own horn here, but I did say Penn State would finish 2nd in the big ten some way somehow, and, this trip to Morganstown really gave me more confidence in that. I mean, they just look like a really legit team. That is a tough place to play, hostile environment, don't care about the weather delay, just demands dismantle a team by 20 plus. So I love Penn State's performance. Do I trust James Franklin in the big games yet?
Jacob:No. Because that wasn't as big as of a game as I've wanted it for Franklin to prove that to me. But then again, their schedule doesn't really have a lot of big games. So I do trust that they can, trickle their way to the CFP. Now will they make damage in that?
Jacob:I don't know, but this is a great start.
Oscar:Yeah. Definitely. I was gonna say they do have a favorable, schedule ahead of them, and some of the big games that they do have, they do end up playing at home. So that'll work in their advantage hopefully as well, but we're gonna move on to the game that started the 3 30 slate in what was a very hyped up inner, I'm sorry, interstate matchup between the canes and the and the Florida gators in Gainesville and Cam Ward with the most nonchalant butt whooping I've ever seen in my life. Florida Miami absolutely wipes Florida 41 to 17.
Oscar:This game, Cam Ward had one interception to start the game, and then just absolutely took over. The Miami Hurricanes offense looks super dynamic right now. Cam Ward, again, a a stellar performance, 26 of 36. 380 5 yards, 3 touchdowns. Guys, the canes, after a crazy ACC weekend, looked like the top dogs, and Florida's Billy Napier looks like he's not making it past October.
Tim:Yeah. I thought Florida would be the team. Just SCC, I thought they would just out tough him at home. Miami's looked kinda weak over the past years, but they this is a different Miami team. They are really tough.
Tim:They were just running the football really well, passing, like, all three facets of the game. They were just they were playing really well, and I think Cam Ward, he's in the Heisman contention as of week 1. He might be the favorite as of right now.
Joe:Miami did one of the most disrespectful things that I've ever seen.
Speaker 5:Are you
Joe:talking about the end of the game? He was walking up to the recruits and dapping them up and saying, come over here. Don't go against Shout out
Derrick:shout out there. Mike's been crazy.
Oscar:Shout out shout out that recruiting guy who was trying to yell at the football players to get away as if that was gonna do anything. Yeah. Shout out to her for trying to make an effort, but, yeah, I don't think those kids are coming to your guys' school anymore, Gainesville. Sorry.
Jacob:Yeah. How does Florida get get even one of those recruits anymore? I mean, they just came
Tim:into your stadium.
Oscar:Well, I'm pretty sure I saw one of them throwing up to you.
Speaker 5:Oh, really? They all
Oscar:were. Yeah.
Joe:No. They're all gonna be hosting.
Derrick:All decommitting in, like, a span of 10 minutes.
Joe:Yeah. They'll be hosting their own version of my of Le LeBron's decision going to South Beach. Yeah.
Speaker 5:Of course.
Tim:Yeah. Billy Napier is he will be on the job hunt this, this winter. For sure.
Oscar:Couldn't beat the Hurricanes and also couldn't beat that water bottle that, he tried to open during his press conference. Rough. Rough day for that guy. Rough day.
Joe:Rough day at the office.
Oscar:Yeah. Shout out shout out Billy Napier, one of the college football coaches of all time, but, we're gonna move on to 2 big 10 teams who struggled mightily against some weaker opponent. One may be not as surprising as the other. Michigan walked out with a 30 to 10 a very close 30 to 10 win against Fresno State. Took a Will Johnson pick 6 to close out that game.
Oscar:Would have been 10 to 23 otherwise, but Michigan's offense looked very, very stale. They were doing a weird 2 quarterback rotation with Davis Warren and Alex Orgy. Only Alex Orgy was playing the Taysom Hill role in which all he does is run the ball. And then Oregon, on the other hand, with a very shocking 10 point win over Idaho, this one was completely different because Dylan Gabriel absolutely bought out in this game, but I I the Oregon bought out in this game, but I I the Oregon offense just could not finish, drives whatsoever. It only put up 24 points, like I said, on an FCS Idaho team.
Oscar:Guys, what's the level of concern for both of these teams, especially for Michigan who was going into such a humongous game this weekend against Texas?
Tim:I think the bigger concern is for Michigan. 30:10, it doesn't that's not what the the game really showed. It was 7 to 10 at halftime. They weren't moving the ball that well. When you look at Oregon, they were moving the ball really well.
Tim:They they were playing fine, and they still have time to settle in. I they have Boise who will be a tough task, but
Derrick:they're Yeah.
Tim:They're definitely not as tough as Texas. I'll tell you that.
Joe:Yeah. Michigan is in a very scary spot for them right now. I really like that Texas played throughout the last week, and I think that should be a longhorn win pretty easily.
Speaker 5:Oregon,
Joe:I really don't think they have worry. They weren't able to finish it, but they are able to get close to the finish line. And I think as long as they're able to start ending the drives in a positive manner instead of just starting and having the middle part be positive, then they should be able to beat anyone in front of them.
Derrick:I'm not worried about Oregon at all. They're gonna be fine doing Gabriel. He threw for 380 yards. He's gonna he's gonna be fine. He's locking in the pocket, and he's really good with game awareness.
Derrick:So I'm not worried about that team at all. But Michigan oh, no. No. No. No.
Derrick:I am very worried about that team. Diamond Edwards was honestly he was a Heisman candidate last year. People were hyping him up so much all during the year, and this
Speaker 5:year, people
Oscar:said I don't know about Heisman. Yeah.
Joe:Yeah. I might have a little
Jacob:bit of He was one for this year. I mean
Derrick:I'm from Westfield. Sorry for the glaze. But he didn't look good at all this game. He didn't really play well. He couldn't find holes.
Derrick:I don't know what what was going on with that. The O line looked okay. They got a couple passes going with nothing that could, like, substantially get a lead, but Michigan's defense doing what Michigan defense does. They just kinda carry every single time. Will Johnson with the game ceiling pick, that's kinda what he does.
Derrick:Their defensive line is always super aggressive, and they're always good with rushing the passer. So that's kinda what's gonna be stable for Michigan this year. But honestly, their offense, when they're switching the quarterbacks like that, I don't know how they're gonna do or who they're gonna choose. So we'll see what they do with that, but it's gonna be interesting Michigan season. They're not gonna, they couldn't some maybe they could be number 4.
Derrick:I don't know if they can be top 3, but they have to change a lot if they wanna be top 3 in the big time.
Jacob:I think, Oregon game, I think you guys hit it. I mean, it's just that's football sometimes. Like, sometimes you do so much more than the other team and the score ends up looking like that. I mean they dominated that game. They just couldn't finish off drives.
Jacob:I feel like that's something so easily to they can fix up and for Michigan on the other hand. God I don't know why when Michigan will learn this, but a 2 quarterback system is a no quarterback system. You pick 1 guy you stick to it and you. Deal with the consequences for that. You can't just roll with 2 guys.
Jacob:It's just I haven't seen an example where that's worked in college football. They got lucky with the 1st year with JJ McCarthy, how they were able to satisfy both him and Cade, but then you saw early in that 2022 season, they had to throw out Cade just because that system was not satisfying both guys and really their offense. So they're gonna have to pick a guy soon. It's not gonna work with both, Warren and Orgy at the helm. And can I say this, Mullins looked a ton better than Edwards?
Oscar:I I mean yeah. And
Jacob:I Yeah. I don't know about Edwards, but dude did not know how to change direction at all, and he can only run he has the speed with no doubt about that, but he can only run through holes that are, like, the size of a Buick. And so, Molins, I mean, the kid runs hard. He has great angles with his directions. He knows where he's going with the football.
Jacob:I I don't know. I would not be surprised if Donovan Edwards is, again, the backup running back in this situation. But for Michigan, their offense did poise some concerns. I mean, that new revamped offensive line, defense looked incredible. I mean, ten to Fresno State.
Jacob:I mean, kinda you almost allowed 17 until Will Johnson stepped up. He didn't look great either, but I think, yeah, he was getting beat until that pick 6, but I think he'll figure it out. I mean, he's one of the best in college football. They have the game those games sometimes. But for Michigan, the offense was a little scary.
Jacob:Defense was fine. Texas is gonna be a real, show and tell, but I did have Michigan as the favorite against Texas this week, and now I'm not so sure. I think Texas is gonna come into a tough place the big house and really make that one a game. Yeah.
Oscar:I think, some speculation about the Michigan offense was they were kind of treating Fresno State as a look ahead game a little bit, kinda not showing their hand too much to Texas a little bit or just, I I guess, try to figure out what they're really gonna do on offense and kinda taking this week to do that, I guess, considering they were playing Fresno State. But I guess we'll see how that all ends up next weekend when they play the number 3 ranked Texas Longhorns. Now we are gonna move on to the biggest game that happened on Saturday night as Notre Dame took a trip into Kyle Field to take on the Texas A and M Aggies and won an absolute dogfight in that game. This is a huge win for Notre Dame. This was really their first and kinda only test that they had this year.
Oscar:Now it looks like they do do have another really hard test as of late into the year, but rest of their schedule is shaping up to be pretty much of a cakewalk. I mean, they it looks like, really, one, maybe 2 losses are gonna happen, to this Notre Dame team for the rest of the season, and people and this was one of the ones that they projected to that they would maybe projected to lose in, but they stepped up. What did you guys like from this Notre Dame win, and, how how much success do we think we're gonna have see them have in the season and in the playoffs most likely?
Tim:I mean, this was in the best way. It was an ugly win. Going on the road to Kyle Field, that's a tough game. They didn't have their best stuff, but neither did Texas A&M. They made it really hard, for them to to move anything offensively.
Tim:I I was impressed with this Notre Dame team. They got a lot better on the outside, and now they have a pretty smooth path until that last game, which we'll get to who they're playing later.
Joe:I think they've got a good leader around at. He came after the game, and so I didn't really contribute too much to this win. And his running backs, Jeremiah Love, Jaren Price, they're very good. But my favorite part is Sant'Shan Gillis in the locker room after smiling and celebrating with the team. And also, I do have to point out now because of that first episode, I've looked back at some of these results.
Joe:It's free money if you bet against my picks pretty much
Speaker 5:so far.
Joe:I said that I think that FSU is gonna have a revenge season. They're 0 and 2 so far. I said that Texas A and M's gonna make a statement game because Notre Dame really can't win.
Oscar:Joe, I think I've been I think I have actually, like, had most opposite
Joe:picks from you.
Oscar:So I've been I've been money this weekend, and then
Joe:it's been Yeah.
Oscar:It's been rough for you.
Joe:In the words, I said Dylan Tatum is the player I'm most excited for this year on defense. He's out the
Speaker 5:wild season. Yeah.
Jacob:Hey, Joe. Can you say
Speaker 5:something like, Michigan, I love their chances. Season. Yeah. Joe, can you say something like, Michigan, I love their chances. You just go on and
Jacob:beat the rest of the season. Season. It's not bad.
Speaker 5:Hey, Joe. Can you say something like Michigan? I love their chances to just go undefeated
Jacob:the rest of the seasons.
Joe:Yes. Michigan is destroying Texas. Don't be, be on the watch for it. Michigan's gonna win the big 10 easy.
Tim:And you were saying you were saying earlier how Michigan State was gonna go 2 in 10? Yeah.
Joe:I don't really believe Michigan State this season for some reason.
Oscar:It was a really tough first game,
Joe:honestly. I just don't see any world where
Jacob:NHL is 4,000 now. Fantastic the first game. It's just that the rest of the season, we won't.
Speaker 5:Oh, there we go.
Oscar:Derek, some of your thoughts on the Notre Dame Texas A&M game.
Derrick:Notre it was a really a dog fight, honestly, which was surprising to see. Not surprising, but it was good to see. Just, we haven't seen a lot of defensive games in the 1st week because everyone's been blowing each other out. If you watch a lot of SEC games and they're all blowouts, but this game was a lot of defense and was really, really not pretty, which I really enjoyed. But some key players that Notre Dame had in the last couple of quarters, which sealed it away, which I enjoyed to watch.
Jacob:For me, I did pick the Aggies to win this one. And just because I did not trust Marcus Freeman in big games, and boy did he prove me wrong, there's a video of him just hyping up the Irish right before. Kyle Field is rocking the power, and he's just hyping him up. He's
Joe:like, yeah.
Jacob:Bring it on.
Oscar:I love that video.
Jacob:I've never seen that side of him, and boy did they bring it. College Station is a tough play to place to play. This is legit. I totally believe in this fighting Irish team. Say hello because they're gonna be in the CFP looking at their schedule, looking at their resume already.
Jacob:They should be in, and I believe they are the most signature team to be in besides Georgia right now.
Oscar:Yeah. I agree. I I love this Notre Dame team. The defense looked super physical. Their corners, it which is something usually not a Notre Dame thing for their corners to be amazing, but they had really amazing coverage throughout the game too along with, as we always know, they have a great front 7.
Oscar:The o line is really young, but they're gonna learn together. And when you have a guy like Riley Leonard behind there and that 2 headed monster, it looks like they have in the backfield with Jeremiah Love, and, I believe it was, Jarian Price too. Right? Those 2 guys looked amazing last night too, or on Saturday night too, but shout out Texas a and m too. That defense looks very, very good.
Oscar:Offense may have a little bit of work to do, but that defense is gonna win them a lot of football games this year, I think. So shout out to them as well for keeping a very close game against a really good, Notre Dame team, but we're gonna move on to the one and only Sunday night, football game that happens in college football. USC pulls off the upset against LSU. Brian Kelly in absolute shambles to open the season once again as a time honored tradition like always. Now o and 3 in season openers with 2 losses to FSU and now one to LSU.
Oscar:This was a dogfight as well throughout the whole game. No one expected this to be a defensive bout, between these two teams, yet somehow it ended up being that. And, Miller Moss absolutely stepped up for the Trojans, played fantastic. Gus Nussmeier played amazing as well. No matter what Brian Kelly tries to tell you, he did not get outplayed by Miller Moss.
Oscar:They both played an amazing game. Guys, what were some of your thoughts about this game and sort of what we saw from these 2 defenses that were really big question marks going into this year?
Tim:Yeah. I was totally wrong about USC. I I went I stuck my neck out for LSU and I was saying USC there. They lost Caleb. Their defense still stinks.
Tim:Well, that's just wrong. Their defense is pretty good this year. And Miller Moss is he was making some pretty good throws and there were some guys making some good pretty good catches. Kyron Hudson, that one hander.
Derrick:Oh my god.
Speaker 5:Oh my god.
Oscar:That was
Tim:that was pretty crazy. But for how low of a scoring game it was, the quarterbacks played really good. I was I was I thought both QBs played really well.
Joe:Yeah. After last year, I thought there was no universe where USC had a good defense, and they they showed me wrong. I spent my entire time in the last episode talking about LSU has lost last 4 in a row season openers, and I still picked LSU to win. It was worst decision I've made in a while. But USC, they'd prove me wrong as well.
Joe:Miller Moss is a very good QB.
Derrick:Miller Moss is a dog. He had 378 passing yards. It was just that's insane, especially for how low of a scoring game it was and how efficient that he wasn't. Honestly, the quarterback duel, it was pretty equal. They both threw for over 300 yards.
Derrick:So honestly, I don't know who to choose, but USC, they're just really good at making good quarterbacks and, like, honestly, just honing talent. And now the defense can match up with that same thought. So now it's just up to the races for USC.
Jacob:Yeah. I thought, USC when they entered the big ten, they would have no shot just because of their defense. If they have a defense like this against an LSU team, they bring that to the big ten. They can for sure compete in this conference. And Miller Moss, I think we might have the question was floating around who will be the best QB in the big time conference.
Jacob:Miller Moss definitely made his case. I mean, some of those throws were ridiculous. Those were NFL level throws. He was clutch. So what you need in the big ten, good defense.
Jacob:Finally, we see a Lincoln Riley defense that can hold its own at USC. They looked really good, and I think, they definitely move up my power rankings for the big 10, and, it's gonna be interesting what they do this season.
Oscar:Yeah. Definitely. Gonna be very intriguing to see how they mix into the big 10. I also kinda I wanna touch on this again. I I know I said this earlier, but, Brian Kelly kinda stinks.
Tim:Yeah. I mean, you were saying
Oscar:Brian Kelly
Jacob:kinda stinks.
Derrick:Week 1.
Oscar:Look. Notre Dame Notre Dame was telling these LSU fans, Brian Kelly, he's good at three things. Not winning the big one, blaming everyone but himself, and then kinda just being a jerk. And we saw all three of those in full display at his press conference after the game. Look, dude.
Oscar:You got out coached. Alright? You can't I I don't know how he could sit there on that podium and say his quarterback got outplayed. His team got outplayed with the performance that they put on, throughout the game. A lot of the mistakes that LSU had, those were penalty mistakes.
Oscar:That's coaching. There were, like, pointless there were countless times where he went for it on 4th down. He probably shouldn't have gone for it on 4th down. That's a coaching thing. I'm sorry, Brian Kelly, but at some point, if you're o and 3 in the opening game, these are your football teams.
Oscar:You're the issue. Alright? I I I I don't like Brian I don't like Brian Kelly. I don't think he I don't know if he's gonna make it past the end of the year, especially, you know, looking at how expectations are in LSU and looking at their schedule. It it it's not gonna be pretty, I think, by the end of the year for Brian Kelly and the Tigers.
Tim:No. And the entire time in that game, I was just I it felt like, man, LSU should just be up so many more points by and they just never capitalized on it. And then in the Q4, USC outscored them 14 of 3. Like, that's where the whole game really what it came down to was one team played well in the 4th, the other one didn't. And now another o in one start for LSU.
Tim:It's it's especially hard to start behind when you're in the SEC and your schedule only gets tougher. Like, these are usually the weeks for SEC teams where they kinda build up a couple cupcakes, kinda try to get into the swing of things. But these tough games early, it's it's hard to come back from that.
Joe:When you're gonna lose to USC, how do you expect to compete against Ole Miss, Alabama, and so many other teams later in the season? In Oklahoma, I really don't feel confident in LSU anymore.
Oscar:Yeah. Brian Kelly, you are officially on
Speaker 5:Football coach.
Oscar:You're on horse football coach watch.
Jacob:I mean, Brian Kelly, like, he hasn't done anything so bad, but I feel like he's so easy to hate. Like, just the way his mannerisms and stuff and,
Oscar:like, the
Jacob:way he doesn't take accountability for stuff. I mean, LSU too, they're not gonna cut it if you have another 3,
Speaker 5:4 loss season. Like, this is he's definitely on the hot seat. And if he's a
Jacob:horse blank football coach, horse blank football coach, he's gone. A coach that doesn't take accountability is just a bad coach. Point blank, period. I don't care how big your team
Derrick:is or how, honestly, like, 8 and 4, 8 and 3, especially for LSU, that's not gonna cut it if your personality sucks down. The thing is too,
Oscar:this team should not be 8 and 3 either. They look like they have possibly an incredible offense again. The defense looks drastically improved
Speaker 5:Mhmm.
Oscar:From what it was last year. I mean, at this point, it looks like he has the ingredients for what could be a really great LSU LSU team who could compete for an SEC championship in a playoff spot, and he just he can't coach them to that spot, it's looking like right now. So we'll see how he looks throughout the rest of the year, and we'll keep track of how LSU does and Brian Kelly's hot seat status as well. But we're gonna move on to another a another big upset that happened over this Labor Day weekend. We are gonna take a moment of silence here as we watched a live execution happen on national television, and that was FSU's football season.
Oscar:It is officially over. Just as soon as it started It's over. Yeah. Who woulda thought? Who woulda thought by week 1, their season would already be over?
Oscar:I mean, that's impressive.
Derrick:It is
Oscar:a That's an impressive thing to do.
Tim:Oh, yeah. 0 and 2 in week 1.
Jacob:0 and
Oscar:2 in week 1, season over, out at the top 25. Hey, man. Race to the bottom. Clap it up for
Speaker 5:that one.
Oscar:Clap it up. Clap it up. But FSU suffers their first their home their home loss of the year, to Boston College 28 to 13. DJ Yuengle, player of the game. Wow.
Oscar:What an impressive sat line this guy had. 21 of 42, 272 yards. A lot of those came in garbage time to point that out. One touchdown, 1 interception. That yeah.
Oscar:50% completion percentage. 50%.
Speaker 5:That's the story.
Jacob:DJ, you need to find another job.
Oscar:Yep. I didn't wanna say it, but I'm glad someone else did.
Derrick:James is calling you, buddy.
Oscar:Boston College absolutely ran all over this team just like Georgia Tech did again. There is no fight. There's no passion. This team, guys, can anyone convince me that they're not dead?
Tim:No. They are dead.
Joe:Yeah. It's it's over, man.
Tim:Yeah. Unless that guy on Twitter eats the dog poop.
Oscar:Well, yes. Yes. Yes. Hey. Nose nose 321, you cannot hide.
Oscar:Alright? We will find you, and you will eat the poop.
Tim:That's the only way they can come back. But even if they come back, they're too.
Derrick:I'm gonna eat that video, twin.
Oscar:I we
Derrick:will still start running now.
Oscar:You need it.
Tim:Like, those first two games too are both ACC games. That's huge
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Tim:Nowadays. Like, they're basically out of contention for the ACC championship. So it's gonna be tough. And then you look at BC where all the concerns are for MSU, where they play them in 3 weeks. And Thomas he was running all over.
Tim:And I don't know how big of a like, he's definitely a good mobile quarterback, but then FSU did the same thing with Haines King a week ago. So they might not have a good run defense with QBs. So it's it's kinda hard to judge what team we'll see from BC.
Joe:I was on my phone a lot yesterday. So the way I found out Florida State lost was that tweet. Everyone calling for that, guys.
Oscar:He must eat the food.
Joe:I I think one thing that comes from this game too is not just realizing how terrible Florida state season's probably gonna be, but also realizing that Boston College is not gonna be a cakewalk for MSU. It might be a one that MSU loses to be quite honest.
Derrick:Yeah. That was one of the games that most of us had, like, predictions for
Speaker 5:them to win. And, honestly, just because of that game, I don't know if it's gonna be like that
Derrick:for to win. And, honestly, just because of that game, I don't know if it's gonna be like that for state.
Speaker 5:But Florida state only scored on one of 6 second half drives. They just completely honestly, they
Derrick:the bat a little bit, and it was just really bad to see that. So I don't know how I think it's Jobert for them now and just kiss their season goodbye. I'm not gonna watch them anymore.
Speaker 5:Playoffs? Don't talk about it.
Jacob:Playoffs? Thank you, Oscar.
Derrick:Yeah. No problem.
Jacob:But, I mean, how disappointing, though? I mean, you feel like you got gypped out of the college football playoff last year. It's now 12 teams. You're ranked 10th. All you need to do is just Win.
Jacob:Win the games you're supposed to win. Win. The first two games of the season, no one even had them remotely close to losing.
Tim:Double digit favorites in both.
Jacob:And they've lost both. To over. And, like, Boston College, like, you would think, okay. The other one was in Ireland. When they come back to Florida, they're gonna take care of business, and they lose by double digits.
Oscar:This is like That's crazy. This is a brand new Boston College team too. Like, this is a brand new coach. Like, they're they're looking at a whole new, like, program down there at Boston College, and they just walked into Dope Campbell and just absolutely whooped them. It it was
Jacob:On prime time too.
Oscar:On prime time television. It was it was phenomenal just, like, how impressive it was, just the way they went in there and annihilated them, basically, from everywhere, it seemed like. They just physically did not have a chance. The the thing that appalls me the most is the 263 rushing yards that Boston College had compared to Florida State's 21. That's awesome.
Oscar:This is Boston College we're talking about here. This is not, like, some, like, high power 4 pro this is not the Georgia bulldogs o line we're talking about here. Alright? This is Boston College's brand new o line. Alright?
Oscar:This is embarrassing. Like, what are we doing here? Do I obviously, I know Mike Moravel had that amazing season last year, ended, unfortunately, the way it did. Probably spent a little too much time moping and whining about it because, clearly, he didn't have this team ready this year. Nonetheless, where do we think Norvell's job status is at this point?
Oscar:Because, they just they they didn't look ready out there. They looked like they just they weren't ready to play out on the field, and that that, to me, that screams bad coaching.
Derrick:The clock's ticking.
Tim:Yeah. It does, but it's so hard to give just 1 year after a guy went undefeated to just say, hey. You're out of here. Especially I mean, Florida State is a historic program, but they were in a bad spot before Norvell got there. So he got them back up to the top, and now they might be falling off again.
Tim:But, like, if they still somehow get this thing to, like, 84, I don't think there's any way that you can fire him.
Joe:Yeah. He's still gonna be able to recruit well, and next year is kinda what they're looking forward to at this point after starting off on 2. I I don't think you can fire a guy after he goes on the feed, and it it's just can't happen.
Tim:It's about, like, keeping your star guys now. Like, trying to like, just hold on as hard as you can so these guys don't leave it alone.
Oscar:I I don't know what star guys they they
Speaker 5:didn't have
Derrick:to keep at this point. They might not have that many guys.
Oscar:Who do they have to keep at this point?
Speaker 5:They Who
Oscar:do they want to keep?
Tim:They lost a lot when you look at Jordan Travis or,
Oscar:Jarvis.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Oscar:Brandon Fisk. Coleman.
Derrick:Coleman. Yeah. Of course.
Joe:DJU is not Jordan Travis. That is
Speaker 5:I'm very evident that he can't have
Derrick:his two names in the same spot.
Oscar:That is for sure. Alright. Well, that is gonna do it for us here on Spartan Red Zone. When we come back earlier or later in this week, we will preview Michigan State versus Maryland and some of the other great games going on in the week 2 college football slate, but that'll do us for us here. I'm Oscar Henderson alongside Tim Marshall, Joe Debs, Derek Mitchell, and Jacob Mauer.
Oscar:Thank you so much for listening, and we will see you guys next time.