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What is the best supplement for me? What potency is right? What does the research show? Is it worth the money? These and all of your other supplement questions are answered here. Jared St. Clair brings well researched information so that you can make more informed decisions regarding your health, specifically focused on how to effectively use natural supplements to optimize your health and Vitality. Of course supplement and food choices aren't the only factors in optimal health. Jared also shares a regular series of Emotional Vitality episodes that will help you release the negativity that may be holding you back and embrace your full potential. Vitality Radio is not JUST about health, it is about HEALTH FREEDOM. Jared provides needed insight into the current threats to your health as well as the threats coming from government agencies, pharmaceutical companies and modern medicine as a whole. With over 35 years of experience in the natural products world, and a hearty dose of wit and sarcasm, Vitality Radio isn't just educational but entertaining and enlightening.
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brad: [00:00:00] Welcome to the Vitality Radio Podcast, your source for the truth about health, wellness, and real alternatives to drugs, surgeries, and the status quo of healthcare. Here you'll find information that empowers you to take control of your health, but it's not just about health and wellness. It's about the politics of healthcare and protecting your health freedom.
Now, here's your host, Jared St. Clair.
jared: Welcome to Vitality Radio. My name's Jared St. Clair, and I am so excited for a couple of reasons today. I was just talking to my next guest. And we met, we've met twice at a couple of [00:01:00] different types of events. We met originally in Los Angeles at the Defeat the Mandates Rally spoke for just a couple of minutes there as we were grabbing food from the buffet table.
And then we got a chance to actually speak for a good hour or so at, uh, A Better Way Expo in St. George, Utah just a few weeks ago. And I was, you know, if you're like me, you see people in media. In movies, uh, on YouTube playing songs. I'm a massive, massive music fan, and there's nothing I love more than singer songwriters.
It, it is my thing. And I love guitar. I tried to figure out how to play it a long time ago, , and it f I found out that my instrument, I guess is my voice, so I just talk now for a living instead. But, uh, I have so much admiration for people who can pluck those strings so beautifully. But that's just playing the guitar is one thing.
Writing and [00:02:00] singing your own songs has a power all its own. And as I was saying, when you. When you meet somebody who you've looked up to and who you've appreciated from afar, the talent that they have, and then you recognize that that guy seems to be exactly what he presents himself to be, uh, in those videos and in that music, it's such, it's almost a relief, uh, that there is no pretense or any of the other BS that we end up with so many times from people that we admire who have that talent that we kind of wish we had.
Well, that's how this guy is five times August. If you've not heard of five times August, well shame on you because, uh, well, honestly, I'd never heard of him either until he started writing protest songs a couple of years ago. Brad Schemas is here on Vitality Radio, our 300th podcast. Brad, welcome to [00:03:00] Vitality Radio.
brad: Thanks for having me, Jared. It's great.
jared: Hey, uh, so this is, this really is exciting because for, for a couple of reasons you've been, uh, gracious enough to, uh, not only spend your time with me today, but also to spend your, some of your show, some of your talent share some of your talent with my listeners.
We're gonna have live music on Vitality radio for the first time ever, which is really, really cool. F 15 years, I've never had a musician on, uh, singing and playing. So that's, I gotta put a stop to that right
brad: now. Well, I'm honored. Thank you.
jared: All right, so we're gonna, we're gonna do this. If, if you are listening to Vitality Radio, and you've been listening for a while, I'm gonna guess a high percentage of the people listening have already heard some of these songs.
I don't know, maybe not. It'll be interesting to find out and I'd love to hear your feedback. But I wanna go ahead and start out, Brad, if it's okay with you playing us a song, and then we'll talk a little bit about. How you found yourself as a protest musician, uh, after all the years of playing [00:04:00] and, and writing songs prior to all this mess that's been happening the last few years?
brad: Sure. Okay. Um, let's see. So I thought I'd play, uh, I thought I'd play, uh, the, the title track from the new album called Silent War, excellent
Religion. Somebody Sailing,
somebody Once saw the Stren Division. Us outta our, the telling the not to their own eyes. The, [00:05:00] the,
the, the truth for their power taking, whatever.
Some you all the, you you
training acceptance inside your head to give them whatever they want. You're leaving your brothers and sisters behind you told it's the best thing to do. [00:06:00] Shouting out friends. Cause you told that's what's right. Now they win because all of us.
Soul
watching these times.
The battles been violent, has lock in prison of this.
Someone is trying to sell you the cure. [00:07:00] Same one who made the disease and now try to convince you and make you feel sure. But hey, there ain't no aunties. The cover your mouth, damn. They tried back your hands. They did it to all of the kids. Nobody knows all the damn is it's done. It won't ask until the Master
Soul
watching these times.
Soul.[00:08:00]
Battles been violent and strange. We all shout behind doors in a prison of this silent war.
So take back your freedom and fight for your life. Stand up before it. Soul, God, take back your freedom and fight for your life. Stand up before it's soul.
Cause it's so [00:09:00] sad. Watching these times is stage change and it's so bad. Battles been violent and strange. We can't let them take more. We can't let them win this war.
So take back what is yours. Do not let them win this silent war.
All
jared: right. Thank you so much, Brad. You're welcome. So this is so simple. It's a man in his guitar, but the power is in the message and [00:10:00] the lyrics, and I hope you listen closely to the words. I hope that you'll spend a little bit of time, uh, looking at the lyrics of these songs as I have over the last few days.
Again, for the, for, it's been a while since I've gone back and, and read through them. In fact, it's funny, right before we connected today, that's the, those are the lyrics I read. Uh, and it's, it's powerful stuff. You, you have a gift for sure. And I think it's, I have a confession to make. So, again, I've never heard, I'd never heard of you.
I didn't know what, what five times August was. I didn't know if it was a guy or a band or whatever, right? Mm-hmm. , you have a, a little bit of a confusing name, that you explained to me, uh, a couple weeks ago. Mm-hmm. and, um, And then, you know, silent War comes out and sad little man and I will not be leaving quietly.
And these songs, every single one just resonated. And I started listening and, and just letting YouTube play. And whatever the next song was. [00:11:00] And at that time I kept getting, you know, these recent songs that are on the, the new album, silent War. Mm-hmm. . But yesterday, uh, we spoke for just a couple minutes in preparation of this, and I, I went over to Spotify and I just hit play.
And the first two songs are old songs. Uh, I don't, I don't know if you probably look at your Spotify from time to time, but they're not off Silent War, right? Yeah. And I was like, man, why I've been missing out? This is some good stuff, . Uh, it's not, it's not all about sad Little Men and Silent Wars. There's some other stuff.
No, and I, uh, I appreciate it. So I'm gonna say this, just a little plug for my friend here. The new album is, silent War came out in November, is that right?
brad: Yeah, that's right.
jared: Okay. I am, I have. So many CDs. I have so many, uh, LPs, vinyl, I've got, I've still got boxes of cassette tapes. I mean, I've been collecting music for years and years and years.[00:12:00]
I haven't bought anything new other than a little bit of vinyl here and there because, you know, they come out with this limited edition stuff that's cooler or whatever. Mm-hmm. . Sure. Um, I'm buying Silent War, and I would encourage everybody listening to this to buy it, hold it in your hands and listen to it.
Old school. Um, because a, it's an amazing experience to have real music in your hands. I think I still mm-hmm. love that. And b, you gotta support guys like, uh, Brad in five times August.
brad: So thank you, Brad. Mm-hmm. , thank you. I, I really appreciate that. I mean, I'm a music lover myself. I got a bunch of records behind me.
I've got CDs on the wall. I still have cassette tapes too. And I grew up always having music, you know, in my hands. And so it was important to me. This album was, uh, Sort of a, it's a compilation of digital singles that I released at this start of 2021. And so they all kind of led up to this, this album. But I thought, you know, it, it, this is an important document, [00:13:00] um, that I want people to actually hold in their hands.
And, and I even went the extra mile and it put lyrics in the booklet and everything, so it Oh, oh really? I love it. You know? Yeah. It's like a full experience. Cause that's what I loved about, about music, but I've put so much, uh, so much heart into these songs over the last couple years. The, the g the, the crazy thing is that I started releasing these songs in 2021 at the beginning of 2021, and I thought, Surely by the end of the year, the, you know, or hopefully sooner than later, they'll just sort of be, um, irrelevant.
You know, I'll, I'll make my statement now and it'll be irrelevant. And the irony is, the sad irony is that they're more relevant now. It's crazy because, um, you know, the first song that I put out was called God Help Us All, and I was basically mm-hmm. . I thought that that would be like my one statement on the whole thing.
Really. I, it's a long song, it's like five minutes and I just was sort of venting and letting it out because I was [00:14:00] wondering why nobody , none of my music peers were speaking up. I was, uh, thinking about my children and I felt like I gotta say something. So they know that their dad spoke up. And, um, soon after that though, I realized, you know, the feedback that I was getting, From people was phenomenal.
Was just a, a, a thank you. You know, I had my fan base that I had from doing my old music, uh, for 20 years. I started five times August in 2001. And so I had a long, you know, two decades of, of accumulating a fan base, having all my old pop songs, love songs that, that are still, you know, clearly I guess people are still listening to it, which is great.
Um, um, but, uh, to get to this point, um, and then, and then start speaking out, two things happened simultaneously was one, I lost a lot of those older fans real fast, but I started gaining, um, newer fans at a much quicker rate, [00:15:00] um, which told me that I wasn't alone. And it told me that my, I needed to let other people know that they're not alone too, which was how this album sort of ended up coming together.
Um, Was was just a series of songs to say, Hey, you know, you're not alone. I'm not alone. Um, you know, let's, let's fight through this together. And so if you listen to the album, top to Bottom, the songs are in the order that I wrote and released each song. So the story, the story is there from start to finish of, of how it came to be, um, of what we've gone through.
over the last, uh, over the last, I guess it, it sort of, I would say it sort of ends, uh, in September of last year, but I've already, you know, sort of started a volume two. So, you know, I'm just gonna keep on going with it. But I, I really appreciate that, that yeah. That, uh, that you, that you're getting the album
jared: Well, I, I'll tell you that, that even makes me more excited. I, I'm such a geek when it comes to music and [00:16:00] concept. Albums are my favorite albums. I love mm-hmm. an album that, you know, is cohesive like that and tells a story. And I hadn't even thought about that. I've looked at the track listing. Mm-hmm. , but I didn't think about the chronology of it.
That's, that's actually even more exciting to me. I love it. So this, um, I, I'm trying not to just be a fan here, um, . So we'll talk about all these other things too. Mm-hmm. , but, but I really am and it's exciting stuff. So, as it's funny cuz you mentioned your kids, you know, I've got kids. I'll always remember a moment.
Um, there's a few moments during 2020 and 2021 that, that I don't know that I've ever shared much on the show, if at all. And one moment was with my oldest son who he is as adamant of a freedom loving, freedom fighting kid as you'd ever care to meet at a, a very young, early twenties. But about midway through the mess of, [00:17:00] I, I, God, honestly, I'm not sure, I'm, I'm gonna guess somewhere around the, uh, the beginning of 2021, um, is when we had this little conversation and it was a text conversation.
I hope he doesn't mind me sharing it cause I'm doing it anyway. . . But I was venting. About masks and plexiglass and, you know, we have a retail store right where we're supposed to have signs up and we're the only store that I'm aware of in the state of Utah. And I'm sure there were a few others, but I'm the only one that I, I know of that never put up a, you've gotta wear a mask sign that our customers never were mandated masks.
Our employees didn't wear them. And uh, we never put up plexiglass or any of this other stuff. And we got turned in multiple times to multiple different government agencies. It was an interesting couple of years for sure. And he works for me there at the store. And, um, he said something like, you think this is, or I said to him, you think this is just all gonna go back to normal Don?
Mm. And he [00:18:00] said, yeah, I think it is. And I was discouraged and a little frustrated by that because I felt like he wasn't seeing, you know, the big picture. Mm-hmm. . Um, and it was only just within a month or so after that that he came to me and said, dad, mm-hmm. , this isn't going back to normal, is it? Mm-hmm. . We really have to fight and we really have to dig in.
And that kid has freaking dug in ever since then, and I love it. My very first protest. , um, was in April of 2020 with my two little ones, uh, eight years old and, and, uh, 10 11 at that. Uh, and we, I have picked my, one of my favorite pictures, if you can have a favorite picture of a
brad: pandemic mm-hmm.
jared: is with my little guy on top of my shoulders with a, we're all essential sign.
Oh, true. And, uh, so I just love that you mentioned that and that your statement is not just about freedom, it's not just about how you feel, but also to show your kids that there is a, a side that we need to [00:19:00] take the side of truth and Right. So I, I honor that very,
brad: very much. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's interesting because early on I, I tried to keep this sort of side of my music separate from my kids because what I was actually.
Pre pandemic stuff was a kids' music project. I was doing a family friendly, um, project called the Juice Box Jukebox, which was an album that I made, um, here at home with my kids. And it was just, it was supposed to be like, You know, cool kids', music that teachers and parents can enjoy too with good, you know, character building themes behind it.
And it was doing really well. And I was actually, uh, you know, I was enjoying it. My headspace has been, you know, a, a father for the past 10 years. So ultimately, you know, logically my, my music would sort of lean itself into that world. And, and, um, it was a really fun project. I'm really proud of it and it's found its way into, um, schools and, and homeschool [00:20:00] situations and, and, uh, it's done really well for itself.
But that's where my headspace was. And so to go from this clean, the purest, most, you know, nicest music I could make out of my whole career, to go from there into this. You know, uh, this protest realm where there's, there's anger and resentment and there's, you know, um, figuring out what the world is behind these songs.
I didn't, I didn't really want my kids to, you know, as we were going through 2020, I knew it all didn't make sense. And my kids are seeing, you know, other friends start masking up and all this other stuff that we saw. And I, I just didn't want them to be, I didn't want them to feel like the world was changing because I wanted their childhood intact.
Right? Because you see all this crazy stuff going on. Why is there plexiglass in our stores, right? In between us, everywhere we go? Why is everybody wearing a mask? You know, all this stuff. And so [00:21:00] by the time, it's been an interesting couple of years because I, I sort of was keeping it separate, like I said, and then little by little, um, , you know, I had to start explaining it to 'em more and more, and I would say something to my wife that they'd hear like, oh, YouTube actually, you know, they, they, uh, censored one of my videos for the first time and I'm having these conversations and then my kids are like, why did they, why did YouTube censor your videos, daddy?
And, you know, you start sort of one by one piecing this, this, uh, information together for your children. But it wasn't until, um, I performed at defeat the mandates in January last year in Washington, DC It was on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. Mm-hmm. . And, um, it was a, a, a. An am amazing day, an amazing experience.
Something that I don't think I ever would've done in my career otherwise, to be on those steps, uh, with purpose and intent, connecting with people, making a, a moment in time. But the, [00:22:00] the, uh, the event was streamed online. And so the kids, my kids watched it. And, um, I came home from that event and, and they just understood so clearly what Daddy was doing now, which meant the world to me.
And I came back from that event. They almost welcomed me back, like, um, a spaceman coming back from space or something like that. Like it, I was a, a hero in their eyes, you know? And I could see it, and it just made me go, okay, I'm doing the right thing. I know, you know, everything that I've risked to speak up through my music, every, every chance I've taken.
Um, all those scary moments that you face in the beginning that we all faced in the beginning where we're, you know, uh, like you with your story, you know, Earl, you face these things and you're like, am am I doing the right thing? What you. Uh, you know it in your heart, but there's, there's things that happen that reinforce it, you know, along the way.
And, uh, the moment my kids got it, you know, and, and they get it now, you know, for sure, um, [00:23:00] three years into it, which is heartbreaking, by the way that three years of their life have been devoted to this era in time. But they get it. And, you know, they understand that, uh, what propaganda is and mm-hmm. and all this stuff.
So they're, they're really smart about it. But, um, yeah, that's the fight for me, that's the backbone of it, is my kids.
jared: I, I love that. And, and it's so critical because we need kids that feel strongly about these things to, you know, fight this battle in the future, right? This isn't going away. In fact, I think it's interesting, your song, silent War that you just played, it's like the war has become even more silent.
of late, right? Mm-hmm. , it's not as in your face. Mm-hmm. , but it's still there. Right. And, uh, we have to be aware and we have to recognize that, uh, the, the time to, you know, put down our Dukes mm-hmm. has, is not there yet. So yeah. Let's talk about this censorship thing, [00:24:00] because mm-hmm. maybe of all of the things that we experienced during the Covid years, um, that was the most alarming and disheartening to me personally.
And I wasn't censored per se. I, the people on the local radio said, you know, watch your tongue are, we're gonna have to. take you off the sh the air, but they never did take me off. Mm-hmm. and I, I found a way to get the message out on the podcast and things like that, and thank goodness for whatever reason, podcasts seemingly are mostly untouched.
Mm-hmm. , uh, as far as censorship. But you've experienced censorship, I have to assume, for the first time in your life of your music. Mm-hmm. . Um, first off, uh, what, what's that looked like in your, in your, uh, life and when did it start and, and uh, you know, how has that progressed over the last couple of years?
brad: Mm-hmm. . So, pre Covid era, you know, my music was right down the middle. It was clean cut, acoustic singer songwriter pop [00:25:00] songs, love songs. You know, I never rattled the cage and I was never going to be, I. A rebellious protest singer. Um, so I released God Help Us All. And I was like, oh gosh, I know I'm gonna upset some people with this.
And, and I just, you know, I knew it. I didn't know how much, but I knew it. And then, like I said, I started receiving that feedback that let me know, you know, I have to keep moving forward with this, whether I upset people or not. So the second song I put out was called Jesus, what Happened To Us? Mm-hmm. . And, um, you know, those first two songs really were, uh, they came out of prayer and their prayer songs really, you know, um, and the videos for them are just a reflection of the world as it is right now.
The first video was a clip show of just images. The second video was, um, video footage. You know, that we, it was just getting passed around for the most part. [00:26:00] And that video, uh, for Jesus what happened to us. , uh, it got censored. It started, it got, uh, demonetized and then it got an age restriction put on it.
You have to be 18 years or older to watch this video. And I'm going like, you know, this was my first bout with censorship online. I'm going like, this is 18 years old. I'm like, looking at other videos online, other music videos, right, where people are getting shot, people are naked, people are, you know, uh, being overtly provocative in disgusting ways.
And they're perfectly, you know, they're monetized with hundreds of millions of views. And so I'm re I'm realizing, oh, like, you know, for the first time, all that stuff that you hear about these people are shadow banned. And tho you know, this website's censoring people. Uh, it entered my world and to me it made.
honestly, I like, I looked at it and I was like, okay, I have to test this now as an [00:27:00] artist. Because what they're doing is not just censoring information, they're censoring art, they're interpreting art for people now. And I started leaning into it from one song to the next. And by the time I got to Sad Little Man, which was about fauci, I was really pushing it cuz I had a direct statement on somebody specific with this narrative and the song itself, I kept pretty open lyrically.
I didn't say fauci, I didn't say vaccines, I didn't say, I didn't say anything. And I ha I, I don't think the word covid has entered any of my songs or any, anywhere along the way. And so I, I like to keep it open that way, um, because it is art. It's supposed to be open for interpretation and, and there are other ways to say things without being so direct about it.
Um, but it was also a test to see, okay, how, how will they. Handle this video. And so, you know, it's not until you see the video [00:28:00] that Fauci is, you know, it's a cartoon of a, of fauci, um, it's like a stop motion cartoon. A fauci has a snake oil salesman traveling through the city, different cities. And, um, you know, he's, he's jabbing people and it's a pretty direct video as far as what that video is saying.
Um, but it was flagged as medical misinformation. And I had so much back and forth with YouTube, uh, Google Creator support, all the, all these little backend things for creators saying, saying, what is the medical misinformation? That's what I wanna know. You flagged it as something, what specifically is the medical misinformation?
Because even though fauci is in it, even though. Uh, there are syringes throughout the video. You're still interpreting what is in those syringes. You're still interpreting what I'm saying in a, in a, in a way, you know? Um, but there's, but I don't [00:29:00] directly say, you can't get this, don't get that. You know, there's no medical misinformation is my point.
Um, and so they suppressed that video. They, they were hiding it from search results and, um, I had people telling me they couldn't find it, so I did my own tests on it was like, oh, I can't even find my own video on here. So, To me, you know, if you're, if you were following me before and then you saw me start to speak out, I really was transparent about what I was going through.
I, I post this stuff on my Twitter all the time. Tw, you know, YouTube has, you know, censored another video. They demonetize this one because if you're looking out outward into this artist that you've been following, my hope is whether you agree with what I'm saying or not, you're seeing an artist. You're seeing it happen.
There's no denying, you know, what has happened. The [00:30:00] censorship, you can't deny that, that, uh, there's censorship happening when, regardless of my music, regardless of, of anything, when we started misspelling the word vaccine online or, or to, to get it through the algorithms, when we started using emojis to say what we wanted to say because we knew it would get flagged otherwise, or the fact that we are crossing out the word vaccine on, on images and stuff.
We, it, there's, it's irrefutable. We are under attack on, on free speech. So it is interesting though, you know, you can, you can flag the doctors, you can, you can make that argument about information particularly, but as an artist saying something, speaking up at this time, um, it is interesting to see that they've really crossed a line.
Now they're interpreting art for people. They're telling you, well, you can't see that. You know, it, it'd be like if you were at a museum staring at a painting or, or you, you know, you [00:31:00] might have or whatever. And then, and then a security guard stands in front of you and it's like, you're not allowed to look at that one.
You know, wouldn't that be insane? Right? If somebody was standing in front of you or plugging your ears for you saying, you can't hear this. You're not allowed to see that. You know? So that, that's sort of been my perspective is, uh, you know, there's an attack on art now. Now, my, my , my, uh, My way of handling it has been to lean in more and more each time instead of back up, which I think is supposed to be what rock and roll is all about.
And um, that's the other side of this coin is that, uh, rock and roll was a no-show to the most important rebellious time in our, our lifetime. So I feel like I have an obligation, you know, as a fan of music, as somebody that grew up thinking who had an idea of what rock and roll was supposed to be. I feel like, um, you know, [00:32:00] that that needs to be represented more and more.
So regardless of whether or not I get a band or shadow band or my channel gets taken down, um, I'm just going to continue to lean into it and I'll find other ways and other means to say what I want to.
jared: Yeah, the, the episode of my show on the radio that, uh, got the most grief, I, there were letters that were sent into the radio station and, and, uh, lots of phone calls.
Apparently. I have no idea how many they made it sound like it was lots, it was probably four or five, who knows? But regardless, it was one that I said, it's time to speak your truth. That was the title of the show. Mm-hmm. And all I did, I didn't even say what it's like, what you said with the, with a sad little man.
I didn't specifically say what truth. I thought you needed to be speaking. I said, however you feel in this moment. Stand up and let your voice be heard. Mm-hmm. . And you know what happened to all those protest rockers of the [00:33:00] sixties and seventies during the Vietnam War? There were hundreds of them, right, protesting this horrible atrocity that they thought was going on over in Vietnam.
And regardless of how you feel about the war, I don't care one way or the other. I love that they were standing up and letting their voices be heard. And all those voices are just silent right now. There are so few, five times August out there. And it has to be frustrating for you. It's frustrating as can be for
brad: me.
Yeah, well these are my heroes growing up, you know? Right. These, these people, these were all the people that inspired me to go down this pathway with my life and, and like I said, I always felt on the outskirts of that. I thought, I'll never be as cool as The Beatles or Bob Dylan , or you know, but at, you know, that was sort of the thing that dawned on me.
I. Where's Bob Dylan? And so I put those shoes on for the first time and I was like, fine, , you know, I'll be Bob Dylan. And, and [00:34:00] that, you know, there's a lot of homages to that purposely, uh, in this music because it's a no-show, you know, it's a direct nod. I have a song called Anti-Fascist Blues that is, um, you know, it is a nod to subterranean homesick blues to, to Bob Dylan.
I get people that go, oh, you knocked off Bob Dylan. I'm like, well, first of all, Bob Dylan just took the blues and he made his own song out of it. . So it's the blues , but on top of that, it, that's the point of it, is it, it just goes over their head. Is that, uh, . It's not here right now, so here it is. You know?
Um,
jared: well, and unlike Dylan, you can sing. So, you know, he,
brad: he could write, I get that. You can sing . Hey, could sing it like this if I wanted to . Um, yeah. But you know, like, uh, I, I do think though, like there's a lot of power behind when you put this information behind a melody, um, it, [00:35:00] it can strike a different chord than just watching the doctors say what they wanna say.
I think that the doctors are the true rock stars of the entire thing that has happened. The doctors that have been silenced and, and suppressed, that have risked their reputations and their practices to, to, to speak truth to power. They're the real rock stars of this whole thing. Um, and, uh, uh, but the thing.
That, you know, you can, you have the media and the government and big pharma, they can make their, their arguments to the average person because it's just information. Once you add melody, there's a whole new feeling to it. And I think that that's what's sort of been missing over the last couple of years, um, when you can't strike a nerve with somebody until, you know, there's that emotion involved in the vibration of the music and the melody that hits you and.
You know, that's what I try to do. That's not being done because I [00:36:00] admire what the doctors are doing so much and, and they need to be at the forefront of the, of the fight. But I want to sort of act as a companion to what they're saying, uh, a companion piece because it's so easy for the average person. to be like, well, that doctor's a quack, you know?
Mm-hmm. , if they see one of my videos and they go, well, I don't agree with it, but the song's catchy, then it's already there. Right. You, you know, as a music fan, like there's so much music that we might not agree with it, the message specifically, but once it's in your brain, the melody, it's, it cycles through.
Right. And it's in there and, and it keeps churning. And that's how programming works. That's why they know to get Pfizer partners in from the music industry. That's why they know to get pink and whoever else has spoke up for Pfizer over the last couple of years is because they know that they can put those things.
I [00:37:00] think, uh, the Rolling Stones made a song that was like a big pharma. Shill song with, uh, Adam Levine. And I thought that at first I thought, okay, here we go. They're gonna call him out Now. It was pro big pharma, it was the Rolling Stones siding with the man, right? And uh, it's just so aggravating, so disheartening.
So I take all that and I crunch it up and then channel it through what I'm doing right now, .
jared: Well, you're right. I mean, I've had Dr. McCullough, Peter McCollough on the show a couple of times that you can't sing along to what he's saying, . And so there is a place for people like you mm-hmm. and, and I agree.
I mean, those guys are rock stars. They really are. Yeah. I mean, they've, they've risked so much. Uh, and it was funny. I actually had Dr. McCoon, uh, it's probably been close to a year now, and, and I said, um, I, I said something about him being marginalized and he said, are you kidding me? I've found like the biggest [00:38:00] audience of my life.
This, you know it, and it's exactly what you said, right? Mm-hmm. , you, you may sacrifice a whole bunch of stuff on this side, but you get mm-hmm. , the rest on the other. I have you listened to the latest Rogan, Jordan Peterson podcast, by chance?
brad: Uh, I've seen clips
jared: of it, yeah. Yeah. That podcast, I, I would highly, highly recommend it.
The one that just came out a week or so ago, I wasn't prepared to, to mention it, but I was actually just listening to it this morning. And one of the things that he talks about is that it is, it's hard, it's really, really challenging to stand up in the face of fire and speak your truth, knowing that you could lose whatever it is that you stand to lose, whether it's your job, um, your friends, uh, family members, you know, whatever it is.
Mm-hmm. , there's all these things that we all stand to lose if we don't just line up and, and follow along with the herd, right? Mm-hmm. And yet he said, but then in. Giving that up, you miss the great adventure of your life. Mm-hmm. , and I don't think those are exactly the words, but I think that's exactly [00:39:00] right.
Right. What can we find by standing up and being heard, even when it is incredibly uncomfortable? Yeah. It's, it's, it's a beautiful, beautiful thing on the other side.
brad: Yeah. It really is. I mean, at this point, I, I am, you know, it's, it's weird to say, but I'm enjoying the ride. I'm, you know, the more you lean into it because.
I said to my wife for like the first year of this, I was like, I'm either burning down everything I've ever worked for or I'm building something new. And it took a while for me to realize, okay, I am really building something new. I knew there was people out there that wanted to hear this, but the support and the encouragement and, and the acknowledgement of each other, the appreciation of what I'm doing, but then my appreciation of the people that are showing up to the rallies and that we're working together, it's a different relationship than I've had.
Uh, In the past with the, with with people who listen to my music [00:40:00] because we're working towards something together. And that's very exciting. And I think that on the other side of this, no matter how long it takes, you know, that was, that was you mentioned earlier that, uh, you know, talking to your son, uh, that he thought it was going to end, you know, soon or would go back to normal.
Right. And that dawned on me, you know, ear early on I thought, you know, like I said, you know, these songs might probably be irrelevant in a year. And then the further along we get into it, the more I leaned into it, I realized, oh, we're gonna be fighting this fight the rest of our life. This is the rest of my life is, you know, fighting for my kids' future because so much damage has been done.
Um, but uh, yeah, I think, uh, you know, we're. I think on the other side of this is, is the best time to be alive. It's like right underneath us. It's just there's a lot of froth on top of garbage and, and corruption and everything. [00:41:00] But, um, Right underneath this. I mean, we have this luxury of technology and the information age and all these, you know, uh, clean water things that, you know, for the first time in a hundred years, it's all culminated to this like, beautiful time to be alive.
But so many people are tainting it, right? Our information are that we have in the information age is being controlled and censored and silenced. If we can remove that, then what a beautiful time to be alive, right? Uh, the things they're putting in our water, in our food, why we have all this convenience at our disposal, but it's just being tainted.
We haven't stopped to go, you know, let's slow down. Okay. We don't have to just keep charging ahead as is because it's obviously not working out for us. Um, it's time to sort of say, okay, we have some conveniences, but also what was good about. You know, all of this conveniences, um, like speaking about food, like, you know, the, the, uh, I'm going off [00:42:00] on a side conversation here.
That's okay if you don't mind. But like, I was having this conversation recently about, um, the TV dinner and it was introduced to us at, at some point in the fifties. And, and then we all grew up and moved forward with TV dinners. And then, you know, little by little everybody realized we're getting sick from our food and maybe we shouldn't, and now we're going, maybe we shouldn't nuke our food all the time.
Right? We had this convenience, but like, we, we don't have to do that anymore. You know, we have, we can all grow our own food if we want to, but even that's being, uh, taken over. Uh, we're just at a weird point in, in humanity where we have all this luxury, it's being corrupted. We have to stop and sort of readjust.
And I've, I've, I've sort of compared it to, uh, we're just in a pubescent, ugly time. Right. Our voice is changing and, uh, it's ugly. We're, you know, it's, it's the ugly, you know, [00:43:00] pimple side of, of humanity right now where we have to get through. But on the other side is a mature adult that, you know, uh, knows what it's doing.
But I should digress because, uh, I'm going off on a tangent.
jared: No, you, I, it's actually really interesting cuz it brought something to mind that I've thought about a little bit, but you, I don't know, you shined a light on it in a different way. You know, I've done this show for 15 years. And for 15 years I've talked about why we shouldn't nuke all of our food and why we need to be careful of genetically modified organisms and you know, why we need to supplement our nutrition because the soil has been depleted and all these different things.
That's what my whole show has always been about. I guess those were my love songs, right, to put it in. In your, your camp. Mm-hmm. . And now half my show is talking about censorship and propaganda and government intervention and all these other things. And I used to talk about that in regards to FDA and C D C and Big Pharma because I've always been [00:44:00] keeping an eye on those guys.
One of the reasons that I was so early on in this protest era when everything was so con confusing, right? When we were trying to figure out, well, where the heck did this thing even gonna, where'd it come from? How bad is it? Uh, was it created? Or you know, was it natural and all the other stuff that was happening in early 2020?
I had already kind of seen behind that curtain to a large degree. Most people now are looking at Bill Gates and saying, whoa, you know, you know mm-hmm. st. Stay back. Right. Well, I've been calling that dude out for years, but most of my show was just about how to live a healthier life. I wasn't putting a whole lot of focus on mm-hmm.
all this other stuff. And as I've shifted gears and said, okay, it's gotta be advocacy, advocacy, advocacy as much as possible, it has been really, really interesting, um, to, to watch that happen. And, and I think you're right. I really do believe, um, you know, I Del Big Tree on not too long ago and, and he said, we're winning.
Winning. [00:45:00] Mm-hmm. , you know, we're winning. And that was one of the questions I wanted to ask you is, do you think we're winning? Do you think that the tide is turning and that we're actually winning this silent war that you sing
brad: about? Yeah, I do. Um, I felt like, you know, when I really felt like we were winning was, uh, the first kind of like, Thing that really made me feel that was coming back from that first defeat, the mandates rally in, in Washington dc I wrote a whole thing about it and, uh, I had some, a few days after I got back, I digested it all and let it sink in and, and I posted this long, long thing, which I rarely do on, on online, but I just had to let everybody know like, we've already won.
We just have to keep doing what we're doing because. There's just no stopping this, like, like the, the censorship, for example. Every time something gets censored, it brings more attention to it. When sad little man, my video got censored, it, it was the best thing that could have happened for it, right?
Because it [00:46:00] shoved the conversation forward, right? And the more, um, like vaccine injury stories keep getting suppressed, the more they come bubbling up. And so you just learn to lean into it. I, I, I just am at this point think like, just charge ahead. You know, whoever wants to come along and charge ahead have no fear because we're winning.
You know, whatever it is you think you're going to, uh, that you're risking or that you fear losing, um, just no, you know, there's number one, a gigantic support system in place here in this movement. You know, people will have your back. Um, people will support what you're doing if, if, you know, uh, You mentioned your, your business.
You know, we had a couple local businesses during, uh, lockdown era where, you know, they weren't requiring masks that were getting reported. Well, guess what? That made me go there more. Yeah, right. That made me go, well, that's my people right there and they're standing up for what's right. And, um, so [00:47:00] yeah, I think that we are winning.
I very much think that. And as, as long as we don't, you know, bow down, I think that. You mentioned earlier that the Silent War is a little more silent right now, and it's because things have relatively been relaxed, right? Things have the, all the pressure to mask up and stay inside, and all of the shot propaganda that's being thrusted, it, it's subsided a little bit and they're sort of bringing it back.
You can see they keep trying to like, bring it back in, in little pops and clicks. So a a, a mayor over here will say, we might need to bring back masks, or now we're seeing Pfizer is partnering with, uh, celebrities again, and they're, they're shoving that in our face again. Um, But people have had enough of it, you know, looking at that new Pfizer campaign, the no plan go, the, uh, what is it?
No Plan Go campaign with Pink and Questlove and Michael Phelps and some other musicians and [00:48:00] actors. And, uh, people are tired of it and they see through it. And you know, when you look at, like, even I pay attention to little details like, uh, uh, the World Health Organization's Twitter account has 12 million followers on it, but when they post something, they get like less than a hundred reactions, a hundred likes, right?
That's really observable information because if it was true, if this many people were actually behind their propaganda in their message, Then you would see that interaction online. I'm not saying it's not there at all because some people are still brainwashed, but it's a lot less than, than we're led to believe.
It's just that the media has the bullhorn and so they're constantly led, you know, shouting it, right? The Grammys was sponsored by Pfizer, so they have that bullhorn to put, you know, their message on tv and um, you know, that's just how it works. But it's not reality. The [00:49:00] reality is that people are waking up.
In massive amounts at this point. I think especially when you can't escape it when people are now falling over on tv. Um, you know, and you have, um, who was it? I think Scott Adams recently, the Dilbert illustrator came, uh, came around to saying, yeah, the, the anti-vax crowd is, uh, they won the argument and I didn't really agree with how he presented it because he said that, um, the argument, uh, that, that our, our side of things was.
The lesser, the, the less strong argument. But it turned out to be the stronger argument in the end. And I'm like, no. It was always the stronger argument because the facts were there and we knew it was always the stronger one. That's why it won. And so we won the moment that this battle began. It's just that we have to really, I think, keep molding it and pushing it forward and find creative [00:50:00] ways to, to, to push in this information out there.
Yeah.
jared: I, you stated it so well. I absolutely agree. And, and I do want to bring up one little point, uh, and I know that, uh, we're, we're up against the time I told you we'd take here, so hopefully you're okay for a couple more minutes. Mm-hmm. . But, um, I think the accidental partnership that Pfizer made with Project Veritas was pretty cool.
like that , right? That was my favorite partnership they've had. Yeah, exactly. . Uh, and that's the thing though, Brad, this stuff just keeps. Happening, like you said, and, and we keep winning battle. , uh, here and there and, and all over the place. I mean, here in Utah. Mm-hmm. . I just got a text message saying that the, there there is a, there's a bill that we've been pushing for the last couple of weeks, since the legislature has been in session, uh mm-hmm.
to. prevent any type of, uh, medical mandate essentially. Mm-hmm. And it just got through Congress [00:51:00] and nobody's pushing for a mandate in Utah right now, but we're actually proactively saying, you know what, we're not ever gonna have to have that conversation again. Mm-hmm. . And these are the battles that we're winning that make me believe that we are absolutely winning the war.
I, I 100%
brad: agree. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's, it's, it's just not sustainable. Everything that they've built this narrative, I've compared it to, like, if you used to watch, uh, like, uh, saved by the bell in the eighties or nineties growing up, like you would have, like Zach Morris would create a lie and then you'd go throughout the episode and the lie would build and build and build until he couldn't contain it anymore and then come crumbling down.
Mm-hmm. on, on, on, on the show. And that's what I think's happening is like they created this lie and it's just gonna keep, you know, building and building until it just completely topples on, on itself. And so, Yeah, the sweater is definitely unraveling at a rapid rate, I think. Yeah, the emperor
jared: is stark naked and people are starting to see it.
There's no doubt about it. All right, so just really [00:52:00] quickly before I do let you go, um, of course we have the, the question mark of the censorship. But a couple hours after we finish this conversation and we are recording now for release a few days from now, you are debuting a new one on, on, uh, I almost said MTV on YouTube as if
brad: MTV ever shows me.
It'll never be on mtv right, but on YouTube
jared: called Gates Behind the Bars, and, uh, I am. Really excited to see that I'll be tuning in to the premiere for sure. Mm-hmm. . But, um, so that's, that's the latest thing. We already talked about the new album, which is this chronological release of essentially protest songs, but I'll also say the counter songs to propaganda is really what this album's all about.
And, and so mm-hmm. , those are a couple of ways that you can, uh, get involved and help support what Brad's doing right now. What, what other ways can people get behind what you're doing? Share your message, [00:53:00] support you financially and otherwise to make sure that at least you as a musician get your voice heard.
brad: Well, you know, we live in a really, uh, cool time. We can still get information out there and sharing the music, sharing the videos, you know, purchasing it obviously is important. It helps me just basically just keep making music and videos. Um, But, uh, you know, you go to the website, all the music's there, um, the links, there's shirts and other ways to support.
Um, some people have asked about sending donations and there's a donation link at the bottom of the, um, at, at the bottom of the page. But really, you know, I think it's time that, you know, we just had the Grammys, everybody's talking about Sam Smith's, uh, satanic performance, uh, from last night. And, uh, I'm, I'm looking at this going like, okay, we can complain about that all you want, or you can start building [00:54:00] up your own, uh, culture.
And, and that's what I think is the point. You know, whether it's me or some of the other guys in the movement, there's a good handful of really talented independent artists. There's, uh, high res and. Uh, that have put out some great tracks. Joseph Arthur is another great songwriter who's been putting out protest songs.
Um, there's a whole slew of, of guys, it's just that we're independent and we need that kind of support because once, once we start creating our own culture, um, you remove the other stuff, you know, you start to ignore the other stuff. And so just, you know, make sure you continue to share it. Make sure you get it out there, post it wherever you can tell friends and family.
And it's gotta be a really grassroots thing cuz a lot of us are facing, um, uh, that censorship and suppression. But there's, the, the real thing that really showed me the power of what we can do together is when this album came out, um, in November. And [00:55:00] it got up to number five on the Amazon best selling charts next to Taylor Swift and Bruce Springsteen.
It was Taylor Swift, number four, silent War by five times August number five, and Bruce Springsteen's new album at number six. And like I'm sitting there going. This is amazing. Not just because my music's on this chart, but like, it's up there. We just punched the culture war in the face, and this is what we can do together, you know?
So every time you see an artist that's speaking out, embrace it, nurture it, cultivate it, because that is how we move past this. This is how we get those nasty videos off of, you know, when when people stop paying attention to that stuff and start turning their heads towards what they actually want, that's when we change things.
So, you know, just continue to support it and check it out and, and, and share it with friends. I really can't say more than that because we've accomplished so much just by doing that. And that's a really incredible statement [00:56:00] that, you know, I don't have that machine behind me, that Taylor Swift machine behind me,
So for the, this guy who recorded an album out of his bedroom to. Punch all the way through to an Amazon, you know, and you think about the platform, and in of itself, that's Amazon. Uh, that's what we did as a movement. And so I think that there's a lot of potential there that we could tap into. It's just that more artists need to speak out and more people need to nurture, uh, those artists speaking out, not just in music, but also illustrators, actors, comedians across the board in entertainment.
I think that's how we really defeat this, this battle.
jared: Yeah. Go out and, and watch Jim Brewer, for instance, his, uh, special that came out, uh mm-hmm. Year mm-hmm. Ish ago. Maybe not quite, is not only his hysterical, but my gosh. Is it? Yeah. Accurate. So good. . Yeah. Incredible. And Jimmy and High Res, amazing. Mm-hmm.
watching you and them perform, uh, at the defeat, the Mandates rally in LA was just, it was [00:57:00] so awesome. Again, as a music fan, it's like, yes, there's somebody out there with musical talent that's willing to stand up and let their voice be heard, and I, I appreciate it very much. We're gonna link to all of these things as much as I can in the show description.
So if you're listening, uh, make sure you check out. We'll, we'll link to five times August, the website, and, uh, also YouTube channels and all that stuff. We'll even, uh, throw a bone out to, to, uh, Jimmy and High Res and a few others of these, um, and, and make sure that people are able to find that stuff. And then, like I say, at the end of every episode of Vitality Radio, if you like what you hear, go tell somebody.
Go tell somebody that. There are avenues where we can still speak the truth and hear the truth unfiltered and, um, And now you can also listen to the music. So I am gonna ask you one more favor before I let you go. I gotta have you play another song. Okay. Now I'm leaning towards my favorite. Mm-hmm. , uh, I will not be leaving quietly, but if there's something [00:58:00] else you'd rather play do it.
brad: No, that was on, that was, uh, you know, I know that's one of your favorites, so I was gonna play that for you. All right. Awesome. Thank you. You got it.
You can hate me. Try to break me, talk me down in dinner. Great meal. You can try to silence every, you were, but I will not be leaving quietly. No. How won't leave. How won't be? How will not be leaving quietly. And you can't mock me. Try to outsmart me. You can't shame me and try to [00:59:00] blame me all. You can do your best to shut me up, but I will not be leaving quietly on how won't leave, won't.
I will not be leaving quietly. I'm gonna stand here I by for every word. I'm gonna shout the truth until you know it's heard. I'm going stand here. I'm by for every word I'm gonna shout. Ugh. Truth, until you know it's her.
Yeah, yeah.
You can scold me, attempt to control me, bend me, and censor and label and control [01:00:00] me. You can push me. Try to kick me out, but I will not be leaving quietly. Now, how won't we? I won't leave. How will not be leaving quietly. You can mute me. Dispute me dumb down the rest. Yeah, but I'll keep refusing. You can pretend lack.
You've seen the last of me, but I will not be leaving quietly now. How won't leave? How won't leave? I will not be leaving quietly. I'm gonna stand here in every word. I'm gonna shout the truth until you know it's [01:01:00] her. I'm gonna stand here in out Word. I'm gonna shout, look truth until you know it's her.
Yeah, yeah.
You can't hate me. Try to break me, talk me down and dinner. Greet me all. You can try to silence every word, but I will not be leaving quietly now. Won't, won't not be now, won't we? How won't leave? How will not be leaving [01:02:00] quietly now? How won't. How won't leave, how will not be leaving cry.
jared: Uh, I love it. Thank you so much, Brad, like my own little private concert, so
brad: awesome. . You got it. Absolutely. Thanks for having me on today. Absolutely
jared: appreciate everything that you're doing. Uh, good luck in your future endeavors and if you ever wanna jump on again and, uh, even for a few minutes to share, you know, what else you're doing or where you're gonna be, that people can listen to you and watch your perform, uh, I know I want to take every opportunity that I get to hear you get up on the stage and play myself.
So thank you so much. You
brad: got it. Thanks.