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Welcome to the show, it's time to ignite.
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Welcome to Sunday, Sunday.
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Mark Phillips says there's a gun show
again.
It's summer, Mark.
Thank you.
I've been working hard in the lab.
I really appreciate the comments.
Oh, oh, they must mean Jamie.
Uh, whoop, hit that one.
Sorry.
Um, so, oh man,
I've been working my tail off this
weekend.
I think I think I can get a
car in my garage now.
Ooh, that's exciting.
It's really exciting.
It's been years.
It's been years since we could get a
car in the garage.
I was out there today and,
and Julie was out there with me.
And when it's just me,
like I just pitch,
like if we haven't used it,
it's going in the garbage.
And today Julie's like stacking things on
the shelf.
And I'm like,
when was the last time we have used
that?
And she's like,
all you do is yell at me.
Every time I come over to this shelf,
I'm just going to stop helping.
And I'm like, well, maybe.
You're not helping.
Well, and I keep telling it,
and I said this last week on the
show, like,
we're planning to move back to
Pennsylvania to retire.
Now, that is not tomorrow.
That is like seven, eight years from now.
And I'm just to the point where I
don't want to pack all this up.
Yeah.
So if it's not something we're going to
use, let's get rid of it.
So I'm over,
I'm past where the car would be.
And now I'm working on the section where
the gym will be.
So as soon as I get that done,
I'll have half as a gym,
half for a car.
Do you have stuff in the garage already
for a gym?
Yep.
Or do you have nothing?
You have some stuff.
I have rings.
I have bars.
I have plates.
I have wall ball, wall ball target.
I have ab mat, kettlebells, dumbbells.
Yeah, I've got a pretty good gym.
So you have some stall mats in there
already?
I do.
Nice.
But I think we're going to get rid
of them and get new ones.
I just...
Yeah.
I just think it's like they're going to
be too hard to clean.
I see.
I mean, I could get down and scrub.
But is it worth it?
I don't know.
I mean,
those stall mats are a pain to move.
And they're not cheap.
I know.
If I keep them,
maybe I'll move those to the back.
And like...
And I'll put the new ones up front.
Right.
So.
I don't know if you know this,
but Carolyn is texting us on the group
chat as we're live on the air.
Like, hey, Carolyn, we have a show.
And she already told us she wouldn't be
here tonight.
She's giving us show content.
It's fine.
It's distracting.
typing right now uh steam mop yeah yeah
i mean i mean i can clean them
it's fine i got yeah it's fine i'll
just move them to the back so
so we did working on that got all
the all the dirt i need moved to
the back moved now we're starting to build
the patio with the bricks so i got
all that started this weekend so super
super super stoked for that uh because i
feel like all the hard work is finally
starting to pay off
So I know you did something this weekend.
We're not going to talk about it because
we just need some time to digest.
I need help finding a new TV show.
Hmm.
Because everything I'm watching right now
is super, super intense.
Yeah.
Well, it's almost over.
What?
There's...
I'm watching Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed.
Super intense.
I'm watching Dutton Ranch.
The Bear has not started off calm.
Shoot, what is it?
Oh, ponies.
And they are all like super intense.
I need something that's fun and comedic to
laugh a little bit.
Because right now, like,
I'm only two episodes into The Bear.
Man, I just catch a break.
Just catch a break.
Anything like that.
Stop ignoring Tessa's comment.
Can we see Jamie flex?
That is,
don't yell at me for ignoring the text.
Jamie can flex anytime she wants.
Well, there you have it.
It's a quick one.
That's all you get.
That's all you get.
So I saw Widow's Bay.
That looks intense.
I just finished off campus.
That was a nice reprieve.
I caught, I'm trying to think, there's
like a like a teaching show that seemed
pretty funny that i caught on a plane
that i was gonna start watching but i
never got into i see uh patrick says
tires i haven't started that maybe that's
a good one to start i've seen one
episode of that um you guys are so
uncouth say please
Yeah, they're just demanding, Jamie.
Like, dance, monkey, dance.
Shay's like, unreal, Jamie.
Pure Michigan steel.
I did a ton of push-ups yesterday,
so they're like extra swole.
Eric Mackey started with Person of
Interest.
I watched that when it was out every
episode.
Loved that show.
It was actually sad when it left the
air.
I think you would enjoy Shrinking.
I did every episode of it.
That's the problem.
I've watched a lot of these shows.
Yes,
Abbott Elementary is the show I was
talking about.
I've tried Abbott Elementary a couple
times.
It seemed like it was really good.
Couldn't get into it.
Really?
Julie's watched every episode.
She loves it.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't know.
Widows Bay has lots of comedy.
CrossFetter, you're pulling my leg.
I have not even heard of that show.
I think it's on Apple TV.
And I've been stuck on Apple TV.
That's what Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed is
on.
Okay, that makes sense,
but I've never heard of that.
Jamie,
that show will knock your socks off.
It sounds like something else.
Well,
that's because that's kind of the content.
Oh, okay.
So it's about a divorced woman who's
looking to have someone to talk to and
maybe a little bit more on the internet.
And she witnesses him getting attacked.
And she's trying to videotape her screen
as the guy is attacking, being attacked.
Okay.
And then everything kind of goes on from
there.
I watched the first season of Terminal
List for a couple episodes.
Here's my problem with that, Jeremy.
The lighting is so, so dark.
I couldn't see what was happening.
And I have a lot of windows in
my living room.
So if there's any sun out at all
and it's all glare on my TV when
the screen is black and I couldn't see
what was going on.
For Apple TV,
Jim was telling me about a show.
It's like an alien that comes in and
takes over somebody's body,
but he doesn't know how to be a
human, so it's kind of funny.
Does that ring any bells?
No.
I think it's only on Apple TV as
well, because he had said it,
and I was like, oh, well,
I can't watch that.
Maybe CrossFit will know what I'm talking
about.
It might be like Resident Alien or
something like that.
Lone Wolf is better, Scott.
It's a prequel series.
Okay, I'll check it out.
And Jeremy calls me a boomer.
But at least I'm not a Packers fan.
I may be a boomer.
Resident Alien it is.
So check that one out.
Okay.
Yeah, Apple TV's just been...
So I have that for Formula One.
Because that's where Formula One airs.
And then I've been watching.
I started with Pluribus shrinking.
Of course,
Ted Lasso is coming out later this year.
Stuff like that.
Okay.
I want to put this out to everybody.
Over this week...
This full week from tonight till July
fifth show,
any super chats will go to Jamie and
Carolyn to get to the games.
So I need to get a pen and
paper.
And just so you know,
I will cover what YouTube takes away.
Very kind of you.
So whatever comes in on Super Chats will
go into a pot for Jamie and Carolyn.
I will send them a Venmo for half
each to use to get to the games.
But I wanted to give you guys all
the opportunity to support them.
And we'll do it tonight,
all week on the lunch shows,
and next Sunday night.
Very kind of you, Scott.
I wanted to put that out to everybody
because we want to support them.
They both qualified for the CrossFit
Games.
San Jose is not cheap.
California is not cheap.
And so we wanted to help support them.
That's a funny comment, Avira.
She thought you were independently
wealthy.
Not even a little bit.
Not at all.
Mark Phillips, I did just start that.
The Sheep Detectives on Prime and got
interrupted by my daughter.
So I'll go back and finish that for
sure.
Look at that.
Thank you, Vicki.
Thank you, Vicki.
There we go.
Thank you.
Just think about that.
You already have lunch.
Not even dependently wealthy, no.
I'm going as a spectator.
I would also appreciate your super chats.
That's fair, Jeremy.
Question of the week for Jamie.
Would you rather redo all Legends
semifinal workouts in a day or walk across
a floor full of Legos barefoot?
I mean,
the floor of Legos is going to be
like a minute, so probably that.
Mark Phillips,
throwing twenty dollars into the pot.
Thank you, Mark.
And I don't know what what can this
twenty five months of membership do for
you,
but that's probably the money that's going
to offset the YouTube fee.
So thank you anyway, Kenneth,
for your twenty five months of committed
support of the show.
I still think for what they charge for
registration,
the spectator ticket should be included
for each Masters athlete.
Amen.
Absolutely.
What if it's a huge floor?
That's very fair.
I didn't like hate the workouts.
And like, other than that first one,
they weren't really long.
The last one was tough workout though,
but it was, they were, I don't know.
I don't really ever want to do the
sandbag one.
I hate sandbag workouts.
Uh, there is a,
he never thought in a million years I
would declare my pronoun.
Um, sorry about that.
It's so tough with the screen names.
So tough.
um you gotta have like a picture in
there so that we somewhat know uh jamie
messed up doing that flex for free yeah
should charge for the flex anything else
going on this weekend before we dive into
the uh i didn't get to do much
of anything um i was at the gym
all day yesterday literally
Trying to get, like, a few workouts in.
And then programming.
Did some stuff today.
Spent a while at the gym today.
Went and saw my mother-in-law for dinner.
So that was nice.
Yeah, it's been a fairly low-key week.
We're going to the lake.
We'll be going to my sister.
No.
Well, so here's the thing.
My sister is pretty wealthy.
But that does not flow to me.
They have a boat.
We're going to their boat this weekend.
So when you hear me say that,
I'm going to the boat.
I just have to go mooch off of
my sister.
So, yeah.
We're going there Thursday through Sunday
to Grand Haven.
So we'll be on Lake Michigan.
Jamie is not doing fresh coast.
I am not, it is like,
I literally like fly out the next day.
I, I mean, I'm signed up.
I'm on a team.
Like I, so it's supposed to be Ronica,
myself and Selena.
Um,
Selena actually announced earlier this
week that she is pregnant.
So I guess I can say that publicly.
Um,
so she already had like messaged me a
couple of weeks ago and told me like
she needed to back out.
And I was like, Oh, thank God.
Cause I was like freaking out on what
to do.
I didn't feel like I should compete.
And then like fly out the next day.
Um,
but I probably would have done it.
But so that,
so Ronica is going to have Terry from
the gym and Elise,
one of our other friends that has done
it.
It's usually been Elise, Terry and Ronica.
So they're just going to take over the
team and do that.
So no, I will not be competing.
Are you going?
I don't think I'm even going to go.
I think I'm just going to,
I think I'm just going to be packing
and stuff.
I don't,
I've done a lot of driving less.
I just, I don't know.
It's like, like a lot of traveling.
So probably not.
It's nice to have a sister like that.
Uh, Carolyn is bowling,
so she can't really hear the conversation
while too busy getting strikes.
I want to know what your,
what your games end up being Carolyn.
Um,
Okay.
So it's funny because on the lunch show,
someone said,
if you're going to Fresh Coast,
you have to go to that restaurant right
there.
The name is The Deck.
Yep.
And I can't believe that someone actually
brought that up and I've actually eaten
there.
Yeah.
It is.
It is a great restaurant.
Great view.
Great view.
They always have like live music going
when you're there.
Lana will miss watching you.
And I think Jamie froze.
So this is fun.
Do we anticipate Masters workouts being
released tomorrow?
I don't anticipate anything, Avera.
I don't know.
Um, Carolyn service here sucks.
So try to hop on when I'm home.
Have a good show.
Yeah.
To have fun bowling.
We know your service is bad because your
comment came in and loaded like three
times.
In a Sean Woodland voice.
Is there anything Carolyn can't do?
And we lost Jamie.
So either her laptop was unplugged or she
has lost power at the house.
Yeah, Kenneth, Jamie's gone.
So while she is trying to log back
in,
I'm going to pull up the leaderboard of
semifinals.
And we'll talk about that briefly.
So let me pull that up.
So there's been little to no movement.
more on the no side than anything for
semifinals and a lot of the a lot
of the um athletes have been announcing
that they have made the games so these
are supposed to close tomorrow
And so it looks as though it is
going to be Alexis Raptus, Eric Cofolo,
Alex Kazan already qualified, Ariel Lowen,
Mathilde Garnes, Janie Chevery,
Bear Gross, Bjorn's daughter,
and Holly Tynan will be going to the
CrossFit Games.
They should all become official tomorrow
at some point.
So I think what I'm going to do
is I'm going to text Jamie the link
so that she can join on her phone
if she chooses to.
Should just take me a second.
And then I was also told to send
the link to Megan Apostolaris,
who did the Xenom,
and we can talk to her about what
that was like.
So let me just text Megan while I'm
at it.
Okay.
um john young one xenon pairs i think
your um your information is incorrect um
forty-niners chica
Xenom was fun for this mediocre
CrossFitter.
Everything I've seen.
So let's bring down the leaderboard.
We'll talk about that when Jamie comes
back.
She's rebooting now.
And I think Megan's going to hop on
now too.
And we can talk to her about Xenom.
We'll do that.
So let me have the leaderboard ready for
that.
We'll get to the leaderboard.
Now I'm all confused.
The power outage has killed me.
Xenon went ahead and launched their
initial weekend this weekend in Dallas.
From all accounts I've seen,
everybody had a good time.
I saw some interviews where people said
that they were going to
that they were going to try to come
back and beat their score.
So I think that is a good sign
for CrossFit, for Xenon.
So I'm going to add Jamie to the
stage.
I'm going to add Megan to the stage.
Hey, Megan.
Hello.
Can you guys hear me okay?
Yep.
I hear you great.
Is that window annoying behind me?
Hold on, let me go this way.
I'm going to pull Jamie out.
Her stuff is not working.
Jamie just lost power.
Oh, no.
So she just had to reboot and come
back on.
Cool.
But when she's ready, she'll pop back in.
Sweet.
So congratulations on your first ever
Xenon.
Thank you.
It was everybody's first ever Xenon.
I know.
How was it?
It was super fun.
It was hard, but, like, super fun.
Yeah.
Would you compare,
what is the best thing you can compare
to?
There's really nothing like it right now.
So I know people are going to try
to compare it to a high rocks and
I understand why.
Um,
I think they're going for like a mass
participation event,
which CrossFit doesn't really have any of
those well until now.
Um, and they want, they're,
they're going for like really good
production value and, uh,
and stuff like that.
So like, in terms of like,
the vibe has a similar vibe to a
high rocks, but like,
there's nothing else about it.
That's like a high rocks because it's all
CrossFit events.
CrossFit wants to know,
will you be better?
Well, will you be buying an air rhino?
No, but that was a really cool event.
Like, it was super hard.
And I mean,
That's probably why that event was in
there,
because it's a new piece of equipment from
Rogue, and Rogue's one of the partners.
I would have rathered a deadlift on a
barbell,
but there was a ton of barbell in
it already,
and it was a really cool event.
It was cool trying to figure out how
to use it.
Katie from Rogue was there,
and she kind of was showing people how
to do it, which was kind of cool.
So I don't know.
It added a little something different,
and I quite enjoyed it.
So I noticed on the scoreboard that seemed
to be the lowest scored event for
everybody.
I don't know.
I somehow did really good on that event.
Like I took second in the elite heat
on that event,
but I think that was just by luck.
And that event was also interesting
because so.
They did an amazing job all weekend of
updating the leaderboard, like,
extremely quickly and all of the events
are scored against this system called the
elite performance index.
So, like,
based on the points or the reps or
the time you get in any workout that
determines where you meet against the
standard and every event has its own,
like, top standard.
But, um.
The reason why I'm blabbing on about that
is because they didn't know what the elite
performance index was going to be on the
Rhino.
Cause like no one knew what people were
going to pull.
And like,
so that event took a long time to
update in the leaderboard and everyone was
asking why.
And they actually said the reason why is
because they're,
they were legit creating the standard for
that event, like in real time.
So that was kind of cool to know.
That was the reason.
And yeah.
So I'm going to share the leaderboard
because they did do a great job for
not being able.
And what's cool is I can go to
your name and click on it.
Yeah.
And it has all ten of your scores.
Yeah.
And like the coolest thing and I'm I
hope I'm not like dumbing this down at
all because I don't mean to,
but I do feel like there's a lot
of people out there that don't fully
understand like how xenon works.
But the coolest thing about xenon,
and this is also similar to high rocks,
is that every xenon event.
will be identical.
So when there's London,
London Xenon is next.
Technically,
I could go to that and just try
to beat my EPI score so I can
look at my events,
see what my score was against the standard
and then be like, okay,
I want to get
this many more pet points on the echo
bike event or this minute you know and
you can the whole goal is to compete
against yourself and your score versus
trying to beat other people i mean
obviously you kind of want to beat other
people too but um the events are exactly
the same no matter where you go so
your goal can always be to just improve
your own score
Would you,
you've been doing CrossFit for a long
time,
so you may not be the perfect person
to ask this,
but when you look at these scores,
is there a way to tell where your
weaknesses are and where you need to work?
I would say so.
But it's also you'd have to do a
little bit of digging down because
depending on the workout,
like one rep is worth like way more
points, depending on how far you go down,
like it's kind of hard to explain,
but
Yeah, I mean,
you could definitely look at that and be
like, oh, yeah,
I didn't do that good in the, like,
one rep max snatch event.
That was my lowest score.
And so you can definitely sort and filter
and do all that stuff.
So, yeah, for sure.
I guess the big question is you've done
one now.
Yep.
Do you want to do another one to
beat your score?
Yes.
I want to do another one for a
million reasons, but yeah,
obviously to beat my score for sure.
I think it could become...
um something where like like they're gonna
be in cool places like you could use
it as an excuse to travel you could
use it as like people do that with
high rocks all the time like they want
to go to do high rocks italy and
it's like an excuse to go to italy
um i don't think there's going to be
as many xenon events as there are high
rocks events because high rocks is like an
hour but like
I definitely want to do another one,
and I think it's awesome training for the
games.
I think it's really cool.
It appeals to CrossFit athletes.
You couldn't just randomly do a Xenom.
There's definitely levels.
There's a Compete, which is scaled,
then there's RX, and then there's Elite.
And so you can definitely be like a
newer CrossFitter for sure,
but like you have to know what all
the movements are and be able to do
all the movements to sort of be able
to do one,
which I think is super cool.
Like I think it's got a lot of
potential to grow big.
As someone who has competed at the Games,
competed at so many different levels in
CrossFit,
did you feel like you could race?
Did I feel like I could push hard
for the whole day?
But know who was beside you.
Could you race...
yeah yeah like there was definitely so in
the elite women's there was two like there
was abigail domit and um emily rolf who
were like at the top and then there
was like a bunch of us who were
like sort of like all in the mix
um for the whole sort of weekend and
so you kind of got to see who
was there and who you wanted to beat
on certain events to try to like gain
points on them um
I think the goal for Xenom is obviously
to grow the event so it's quite large.
This was the first one,
so the elite women's heat only had ten
people in it.
The elite men's heat had quite a bit
more.
the rx men's also had a lot but
the elite women's only had ten in it
for whatever reason but yeah you
definitely wanted to race and you
definitely wanted to beat people and there
was for sure certain people who like i
wanted to be on certain events because it
knew i knew it would put me above
them in points so there is an element
of you're competing against yourself at
multiple different xenons ideally and then
you're still wanting to beat other people
for sure
So the owner before it launched said they
wanted to give athletes a special
experience.
Did you feel special?
Yeah, for sure.
You got a really cool,
at the end when you finished all the
events, you got this really nice bracelet.
I don't have it with me,
but it's like a nice piece of jewelry.
All weekend and leading up,
like the communication in terms of them
sending out emails with all the
information,
like directly tailored to you,
like it was all like, Megan,
here's your heat times,
like here's your scores,
like everything was very tailored to you.
um the check-in was good it was a
newer event so there was like a couple
little wrinkles that have to be ironed out
like in terms of check-in just a bit
of a long line and whatever but after
having gone through the whole weekend you
kind of like you're very accepting of
those things just because like it was a
brand new event and like to me like
they crushed it we have a couple comments
in the question in the chat uh does
it cater more to a spectator experience or
a participant experience
I think it could be both.
I think CrossFit tends to... Like,
the people who want to watch CrossFit,
I think, are, like,
usually other CrossFitters.
So, I mean,
I would say it's the same vibe where,
like,
people who would probably come to watch a
Xenom are going to be people who do
CrossFit.
But it is cool.
There's, like, multiple arenas,
they call them.
Multiple competition floors, really,
going at the same time.
And...
they all are like kind of separate but
spectators can go anywhere in and around
them so it's very accessible to people to
watch and like up close and personal like
right down on the floor one of the
events had a three k run in it
and it was all done inside like lapsed
and so people could be like right there
yelling and so like it's good it was
good it's like watching the games but
multiple things happening all around you
at the same time and like way more
events per day
Uh,
could you go a hundred percent on all
events or did you have to save yourself
for day two?
Um, I don't think that anyone who's,
I can only speak for myself,
but what I would say is like,
I don't think anyone who is a competitive
person, like consciously says, Oh,
I'm going to hold back here and try
to save myself for day two.
I think everyone, once you're out there,
you're kind of going a hundred percent.
Uh, that said,
like some of the events were quite short,
like, uh,
you know one of them was a one
minute max echo bite calorie not that that
was an easy event at all but it's
one minute and then one of them was
like a max snatch event so like although
like they're all really good tests some of
them are like less strenuous than others
so i think they did a really good
job of like planning them so that you're
never doing two really long events back to
back um by the end of day two
like
you know, you're a little tired,
but my last event was a twelve minute
workout of like rounds of movements and I
felt like I was still able to push
pretty hard.
It's definitely different than
Like I've been to the Games Masters a
few times and there's like, you know,
two or three events a day.
And I find in that case,
you're like warming up and cooling down a
few times in the day where I found,
especially day two for Xenom,
you kind of are staying warmed up like
the whole day.
There's not a lot of time to really
like leave the venue, go get food,
come back.
You're sort of kind of there,
which is good.
I like that a little better.
It's like almost less stressful because
you're just like in it.
So in that sense,
it's a little bit different.
But yeah,
like it's a lot of volume over two
days for sure.
I know that there have been complaints
about, especially with Masters athletes,
only getting seven events at the CrossFit
Games.
You got ten events in two days.
Did you prefer that to what's been
happening at the Masters Games?
I mean, I don't really think...
No,
I wouldn't say I wouldn't say yes or
no.
Like I like both.
The Masters games is I think I think
seven events is not horrible.
I mean, I might like more,
but I like a lot of volume,
so I don't know.
I don't have a huge problem with the
number of events at the Masters games.
That wouldn't be where my complaints would
lie on that topic.
The but I also really liked.
having like the amount of work at Xenon,
which is like compressed into two days,
like ten events for sure,
but some of them are very short and
it didn't really feel like a full event.
So it's like almost similar amount of
work,
but in Xenon was like two days where
Masters games is like three or sometimes
four.
Bootycat asks,
is it too much volume for normies?
no i don't think i think anyone who
does crossfit could come to a xenon and
have a wicked time and i saw like
like i said there's like three categories
compete is like a scaled then there's rx
and then there's elite and in the compete
and in the rx there was many ranges
of ages skill levels like it was super
cool uh any swag other than the bracelet
Um, there was a swag bag.
You had a shirt, um,
some other things in there.
You get like a cool name plate.
Um,
there's also photo packages that you can
add on.
Um, there wasn't like a lot of like,
you know, expensive swag,
but the things that you got were very
personalized.
Um, I thought it was good.
I got a couple more questions.
I'm going to try to pull Jamie on
to see if she has any questions for
you.
Sure.
I was listening.
No,
you seemed like you asked all the things
that I was curious about,
like was the volume too much,
all that kind of stuff.
So, I mean,
I think you kind of nailed it on
the head, Scott.
The only thing I would say that I
haven't said already is like,
they don't divide any,
you can filter and see like where you
would fit in,
in terms of your age group.
Like if you were a masters athlete,
but you know,
if you want to go in the elite
heat, which is what I wanted to do,
they don't elite doesn't care about your
age.
And like, I'm cool with that.
Like elite is elite.
And so your score is just like measured
against the standard.
So,
but you can like kind of filter and
see what other people are there who all
were like was in your age group there.
But in terms of like a master's,
they don't have like categories
specifically for master's.
So I was seeing more of the master's
athletes in the RX category.
um category versus the elite category
there was definitely like in the women's
in my heat i think there was two
women at least one but i think two
that were thirty five to thirty nine but
there was no one older
Well,
Jamie loves competing against elites.
She's been wanting to do that forever.
Yeah, you would love it, Jamie.
I like it, too.
Like,
I still feel like I can roll with
the young ones.
And, like, for me, that's, like,
a motivator.
And you kind of just, like,
quietly just do your thing throughout the
competition.
And then, all of a sudden, you're,
you know,
middle of the pack in a heat full
of really young girls.
And it kind of is motivating, so...
yeah i would if you ever get the
chance to do one like definitely do it
and definitely go elite for sure um did
you see many athlete withdrawals i don't
know like like no one in my heat
withdrew i don't know like in terms of
number of people who registered or who
didn't come i don't know i couldn't answer
that
I think they're asking more for the volume
of the weekend.
Oh, I didn't hear of any medical issues.
There was tons of medical staff there.
The judging was all really good.
I didn't see any injuries or withdrawals
personally, but I've got no idea.
I think I saw Josh Hicks post a
thing that said it was like days without
incident with the medical team and they,
and they made it like through the whole
weekend without an incident.
Yeah.
So I think that's, that's pretty cool.
Yeah.
It was cool.
Like, like I said, like,
This is the first event that they're
running, and it was big.
I think they had over five hundred
athletes competing,
which is a lot of athletes,
and it seemed like it was really,
really good.
The organizer is Wilson.
One of them is Wilson Pack,
and I chatted with him a few times
throughout,
and he said there was things behind the
scenes that like,
Small things that were happening,
but from an athletes perspective,
it was just going along.
I think one time like one of the
screens went out and they just quickly
fixed it.
But like everything ran super smooth on
time,
like the leaderboard was like so quick to
be updated.
The judging was great.
Yeah,
like I I don't have any like they're
gonna send out a survey and there's like
little things that I'll put but like
nothing, you know, major and you know,
I'm sometimes hard to please.
And so it Yeah,
like it was really good.
It was a blast.
So I'm going to two more questions and
we'll let you go, Megan.
So we have,
was there any adequate areas to rest and
recover or did you have to leave and
come back for each event?
I think she already answered that she
didn't leave.
No, there was actually a huge,
a huge athlete area.
where it was at this particular venue
which was the the Ford which is like
the Dallas Cowboys practice stadium and um
it was beautiful facility but in this
particular facility when you would come in
through the door athletes were allowed to
like have all their bags and stuff um
and then they could leave all their stuff
on one whole side of the stadium so
like all the bleachers on one whole side
of the stadium was like athlete area to
just chill they had microwaves over there
so you could heat your own food up
and whatever
And then the warmup area was all like
down on the, like the, the, you know,
whatever the turf, like the field level.
Um,
the one thing that I would say that
I didn't love, um,
and I'm curious to see if other athletes
had the same comments was like,
they didn't allow coaches in there, uh,
at all.
So like,
if you wanted to interact with your coach,
it had to be like, there,
they were basically just like a spectator.
There was no coach like pass.
Um,
So that took, for me,
that took a little bit of getting used
to because I have someone who comes and,
like, helps me warm up, usually.
So you're kind of on your own in
there unless, like,
your coach happened to also be competing.
So I didn't, like, super love that.
So that would be a piece of feedback
I will provide when I do my survey.
But, yeah,
you definitely didn't have to leave and
come back.
There was tons of athlete recovery area,
and I think that was something they really
wanted to do.
Yeah.
Okay, last question from the chat.
Was there a decent number of vendors for
spectators?
vendor area was a little thin um hopefully
the more the events run i think more
will come but there wasn't a lot of
vendors around they had a xenon like
selling xenon merch and then there was
like maybe three or four other ones um
that were selling stuff but yeah the
vendor area was not as it could be
for sure yeah that's not really important
for me so something i didn't really think
of but yeah there weren't a lot of
vendors there and i did hear uh
Peter from coffee pods and Watts.
He talked to the owner and he said
it was a really hard sell without getting
to show them anything.
Yeah.
Now that they have something to show.
Yeah.
Uh,
they can push a little bit more towards
some vendors.
Yeah.
Um, the floor looked amazing.
It was cool.
and they did a drone shot around the
stadium.
They looked amazing.
In person, it looked just as good.
Yeah, it was.
In person, it looked just as cool,
and they were kind of mysterious about it.
So on athlete check-in,
which was the Friday,
we started competing on Saturday,
you would go into the front doors of
the stadium,
like, the lobby kind of area.
But they had, like,
the windows into the competition floor,
like, so you couldn't see.
So, like, I still couldn't see it, which,
like, I was, like,
trying to sneak in and, like, get, like,
a view of it.
I think some people did.
But anyway,
and then the next day when we, like,
came ready for competition,
you got to see it for the first
time.
And it was, like,
definitely very impressive.
Like, in terms of the visual aspect,
it is more impressive than the games like
they they had led screens for every arena
with huge clocks on them like it looked
awesome everything was blue um there was
like cool carpeting around that was blue
it was really neat and the way that
they ran the events was on this like
giant clock so it was cool like say
you're doing event one and the event was
like you know a five minute
event and then between heats there's like
a two minute window let's just say it'd
be like big green numbers for the for
the like when you're going and then as
soon as the event was over it was
like the numbers turned red it was two
minutes then the next heat would come in
like it was all like very flowy and
and good um so it kept everything like
just like perfectly on the clock but yeah
visually it looked pretty spectacular the
rig was huge yeah it was cool
some of the footage i saw the big
um tv screens with the clocks on them
yeah were they need to go to those
at every event yeah like they it's so
hard to find the clock at the crossfit
games yeah it was cool and they were
all leds like they were nice probably
really expensive like i think there's a
lot of money behind the event um and
yeah it was it showed for sure
So here's my last question.
In three weeks,
the two of you are going to become
competitors.
Is there any trash talking that you two
want to do before you go on the
floor?
No.
I don't know.
I get so stressed out at the games.
When I go to the games,
I feel just like...
I don't know.
No, there's definitely no trash talking.
I get nervous.
Jamie's a beast.
She'll beat me on everything.
And yeah.
Are you getting coached by Taylor at the
event?
I need to message him and see what
the plan is.
Yeah.
Because I don't know if their focus is
media or what.
I think they're planning to go.
I think they have a few athletes.
I'm hoping they are because I want them
there.
Well, they're going to be there.
I mean,
I've heard them say they're going to be
there on like Sunday, I think.
But like...
I mean, he's, you know, I don't know.
When he's on with Sivan,
it seems like they're, like,
talking about trying to, like,
set up a workout that they'll do out
of the hopper.
And, like, so, like, well,
if you're trying to do media stuff and
you're trying to, like,
it won't be at the Masters games, maybe.
I mean, I don't know.
There is, like, six of us, so.
Yeah.
I hope they come.
I'm, like, banking on it.
I know.
I'll need them there.
Yeah, for sure.
They're great.
But, yeah, no,
I don't want to trash talk anybody.
I can't.
I'm too insecure.
Tessa asks if Taylor coaches Jamie.
He actually coaches both.
They're both Sentinel athletes.
Yeah.
So not only are they in the same
age group, at the same CrossFit Games,
with the same Sentinel training.
Yeah, it was fun last year.
I loved that.
Yeah,
there was like me and Jamie and Julia
and who else was there?
Jessica.
Yeah,
and like we were all in the same,
I don't know,
it just felt like we were competing
against each other,
but like we were also just like hanging
out.
It was cool.
Well, Megan,
thank you so much for taking some time
out of your Sunday night.
My pleasure.
It was awesome.
Really enjoyed getting a firsthand look at
or an account of what happened at Xenon.
We're all excited to see how it's going
to be and if it's going to survive.
But by all accounts,
it sounds like it went off pretty well
without a hitch.
Yeah, I think so.
From my perspective, it totally did.
Hopefully everyone else had the same feels
and like it can be a really huge
event and just like keep the ball rolling.
Yeah.
Well, thank you.
No problem.
Have a great rest of your night and
safe travels home.
Thank you.
Bye, guys.
Bye.
See you soon.
Megan Apostolaris, CrossFit Games athlete,
Xenon participant.
Thank you so much for your time.
That was awesome.
Yeah,
I didn't really know she was doing that.
That's awesome.
I'm glad she got that experience.
I like the fact that she went up
against the other elite athletes.
That's what I had registered as when I
was trying to get the free invite or
whatever that Caroline got.
That's what I had signed up as.
Yeah.
Because I know you do have that desire
to see how you would, in some events,
see how you would...
I hate the snatch event, though.
Like,
it wouldn't even matter if I was
competing.
I honestly probably would do just as bad
in the regular, like, the RX category.
Because sometimes there's just stronger
people in those categories.
They don't have the skills.
Yeah, but I look at, like,
Emily Rolfe's score,
and she didn't do well on the snatch,
and she almost won.
And Abby won the snatch,
and with a very high score.
So...
I'll pull up the leaderboard so we can
just wrap this up a little bit.
Did she say how many people were in
a heat?
Well, there was only ten elite women.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So let me go back here.
Okay.
So here's the final leaderboard.
And you can see there's Abby Doman at
one, Emily Rolfe two, Samantha Pugh three,
Megan took fifth.
Nice.
And then there's only ten athletes.
That's crazy.
How many elite men did it?
Sixteen or seventeen.
Okay.
We'll go to that next.
Farlow won.
William Leahy second.
Raleigh Martin third.
Got people like Mike Needleman.
Wow.
Wow.
Oh, wow, there's way more of that.
Yeah.
But E.J.
Hine may have been... Well,
here's a couple that didn't finish.
Dan Bailey.
Oh, wait.
Oh, Dan Bailey pulled out.
Three people did not finish.
Hmm.
So there's the answer to Jeremy's
question.
Yeah.
And someone didn't start but finished.
What happened there?
A couple of them just didn't do the
snatch at all.
Oh, that would be me.
but they were given a final score maybe
they just went out there and missed both
lifts you'd think it would say zero though
but that's that's weird yeah could be or
they got stuck in traffic yeah i'm curious
how big the floor is like how many
people like if if there's twenty lanes or
what it is exactly and how it gets
seated and since
I mean, it's only two days,
so do they reseed it after the first
day?
And then that's it?
Yeah,
it looked like the areas looked big enough
to hold more than ten.
Yeah.
Like twenty at a time, probably?
Yeah, that's what I would guess, twenty.
And then when we look at the pairs,
what I found interesting is the women's
and men's pairs are both on the same
leaderboard.
Oh, wow.
Unless you break it down from there.
That's interesting.
But because the...
How do you do that with a snatch?
Well,
it's whatever level you get as a woman
is still based on the thousand points.
thing so it's gonna it may be a
three hundred and thirty pound snatch for
a man but it may be a two
thirty snatch for a woman and it's still
be seven right because at the end of
the day Kyra and Olivia beat Colton and
Chris oh boy yeah well that's kind of
neat yeah Jacob Marlowe and Travis
Williams that are in third Jake Douglas
Adam Clink and fourth
Georgia Pryor and Maisie Wilde in fifth.
So some pretty decent teams.
Yep.
But you can see there's the – now
these two teams almost hit ten thousand
points.
They were in the nine thousands.
Wow.
And that's what – the one thing I
would say about this,
I think Abby won with eight thousand-ish,
is that –
Abby's a great athlete and she's a
multiple time games participant.
She hasn't yet to finish top ten.
Right?
Emma Rolfe has finished top ten.
Yep.
But other than that,
you're looking at women who have never
been to the games.
Right.
So I'd be anxious to see what the
tip of the spear would do on this.
Yeah,
you want to see what James Sprague can
finish and you want to see what, like,
well, shoot,
is Tia the only one who could get
the thousand points or whatever it is?
I think,
I don't think a thousand is necessarily
the goal on every event.
I think they want to leave room for
improvement because they don't want to
change this for twenty years.
Right.
And they said initially,
this wasn't really for the tip of the
spear.
This is like a fantasy camp for those
that might have been just under the line.
Now,
I heard Colton say they were using this
as games prep.
It was a way to get intensity into
their workouts three weeks before the
games.
They worked out and did full day of
programming on Friday.
at a gym in Houston,
then went Saturday and Sunday.
Yeah.
That's smart.
That makes sense.
So when I heard that, I was like,
that makes a ton of sense for a
games athlete.
Yeah.
Especially pairs.
Yes.
Yeah.
It can be really hard to simulate that,
that little bit of intensity on the floor
and,
And yeah,
they'll simulate like you just can't quite
do that.
Maybe in the camps they can a little
better.
But I think I do think this is
kind of great,
a great training atmosphere.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think the most encouraging thing I
heard from all the stuff I watched was
people say,
I really want to come back and beat
my score.
And if people are saying that,
you got something.
Yeah.
Now, and Megan said glowing things,
but are there people leaving going, well,
damn, that was, that sucked.
And they just didn't put them on camera?
True.
And I'm sure we're going to,
if there are those people,
we'll hear about that in the coming week.
But what, like, I'd be curious,
what would they say sucked?
The workout?
Like, they just weren't, like, I mean,
really, what could,
if it's a well-run comp,
and you know what you signed, like,
you know the workouts you signed up for,
I don't know what you could really bash.
If assuming things like it runs on time,
there's a proper warmup area,
there's enough equipment.
Like if all four hundred people hang out
in the warmup area,
randomly warming up all day.
Sure, that could be a mess,
but it doesn't sound like that was an
issue.
It doesn't sound like this one was full.
So.
I mean,
if you do get what are they're trying
to have a thousand athletes participate in
these things.
So eventually, two thousand.
So and they what they told Peter is
they're starting with five hundred London.
They want a thousand.
The next one, they want fifteen hundred,
which I think is Miami.
OK.
And then the next one, two thousand.
But we want to build it up slow.
And supposedly they're in it for the long
haul.
Um,
they have a ton of money and the
floor looked expensive.
One can only assume they have a ton
of money,
but in my conversation with Wilson,
like they own all that.
That's awesome.
And so they pack that up.
He,
he's storing it just North of me here,
uh, in a warehouse.
He already told me that they got one
there and, uh, they own it all.
So once you make that initial purpose
purchase, uh,
Maybe you'll have to replace a LED screen
every once in a while.
That is going to be incredibly expensive
to ship to London.
So he has two warehouses.
Okay.
All right.
They're going to buy a set of equipment
in the States.
Okay.
And they're going to buy a set of
equipment overseas.
That makes sense because logistically that
does not see how that works.
When is London supposed to be?
Why'd you have to ask me that?
Like, are they every three months?
Are they trying to do four a year
on the quarter or what?
Like what's the plan?
Um, London is August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August, August, August,
August, August, August,
August
Couple months.
Two months.
So two months.
So you're going to try to do six
a year?
I don't think they're going to try to
do a ton this year.
I think it's going to be three or
four.
Well,
four is a lot when you're halfway through
the year.
Yeah.
How many high rocks has happened in a
year?
I don't know.
Ten, twelve?
Seems like thirty to me, but okay.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean,
I feel like there's like four or five
overseas and five or six here.
I don't know.
It seems like there's only like twelve,
maybe every month.
I feel like they're like every month.
There's a high rocks.
So if you did every other month and
you did six here.
Yeah.
Is that a similar date to WFP two?
I know WFP two is at the end
of August.
I don't know.
But again,
I don't think Xenom is trying to get
the elite athlete.
True.
That's not their main goal.
And from what I hear,
elite athletes can only get in by invite
only.
Oh, really?
Yeah,
that's another thing Peter said from
talking to them.
The elite division will be small.
Okay.
The RX Compete are like securing your
ticket, getting those.
I see.
so so anyway there it is fun i'm
excited for them i'm excited to see it
i mean i'm excited for them to get
us a live stream of it because it
would be fun to follow along yeah he
also said with that is they wanted to
get everything ironed out before they put
up a broadcast and they want the broadcast
to make sense for people who watch
And until you understand it,
until you know the flow,
and until they can get rep counters on
the screen and all of that stuff,
they don't want to put out a subpar
broadcast.
Makes perfect sense.
So, and when I heard that,
I was like, apparently,
at least they're thinking through these
things.
So...
was one other thing i wanted to mention
and now i can't even oh i wanted
to thank um at mishi meech for in
good luck ladies um that is another again
if you missed the top of the show
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donated this week from today through next
Sunday night show,
that money will go to Jamie and Carolyn
to help them make their way to the
CrossFit Games.
Thank you.
Michi Mich.
Gotta be a Michelle, right?
The picture would say so.
I'm wondering if it's Michelle from
Michigan.
Yeah, that would be cool.
So, anyway.
They apparently let people broadcast from
their phones, which is cool.
At least we could see bits and pieces.
Yeah,
but just like any big sporting event where
there's a lot of people with a lot
of cell phones,
everything starts to depixelize.
Everybody's just talking about all your
muscle groups.
Oh, well, yeah, this is different.
Triceps, delts.
Jamie's delts are too big for her skin.
They're not.
My delts aren't even that big.
Like I said,
I did like a hundred and eighty push-ups
yesterday or something stupid.
Yeah, this is a different angle.
Why?
I don't know.
It was a push-up workout.
Dang.
Okay.
So there's that.
When you lost power,
we were talking about the games,
leaderboard.
Oh, yeah.
Pretty much final.
Yeah.
And people are announcing it.
Right.
And, um, but,
and there's been no movement.
So again,
the women are wrapped as follow Gazan
already qualified Lohan, Garnas,
Chevrie and Bjorn's daughter and Tynan.
Dang, Carolyn Stanley.
I know.
And it ended up only being five points.
Yeah.
Is Pat still one point out or one
point like in?
In, last I checked.
By one point.
So he'd be like the only one that
probably wouldn't post that he's in until
he... He said on Girls Unfiltered,
with it being one point,
he's not posting anything until he gets
the letter.
Yeah.
On the men's side, we have Guy,
Quinn Robinson, Nick Matthew,
Justin Medeiros, Spencer Pancheck.
How about four Panchecks going to the
CrossFit Games?
Crazy.
That's insane.
Colton Mertens and Patrick Vellner.
Again,
you see Patrick Vellner with sixty-two.
Ari Lightfoot with sixty-three.
Closes tomorrow.
With that one point,
any toggle of a point
Just messes it all up.
But I think Pat said on Girls Unfiltered,
he even holds the tiebreakers on Harry at
this point.
That's true.
So it would be two points.
Yeah.
Yeah, don't count your chickens.
I wonder if Pat will do athlete interview
with Dave if he makes it.
Be good theater.
Dave has been very forgiving on his end.
I just don't know if they're going to
be reciprocated or not.
Agreed.
Last week,
I was binge-watching Dave athlete
interviews.
I have not really caught very many of
them.
I need to go watch them.
I think they're pretty good.
I think he's gotten better.
I noticed he's pumped out a ton this
weekend.
Okay.
So I'm way behind again.
Dylan was this weekend, Dylan Hamming.
Oh, nice.
I'll have to catch up.
It was like Enola Kai, Callum Clemens.
So a lot of that group that just
qualified recently.
Tudor?
Or was that one already done?
Tudor was earlier.
Okay.
Tudor was a good one.
It's funny because the people that were on
his demo team,
There's this bond.
And Tudor was on the demo team with
him.
And so Tudor's so shy.
Yeah.
And he's gotten a lot better since you
and I have interviewed him.
But with Dave, he was very relaxed.
I think he's definitely gaining some
confidence.
I mean,
I mean,
CrossFit will do that for you in the
gym and out of the gym.
Actually,
I just had chaired one of Greg's gym
creatives that Sousa had put out some of
his quotes.
And, you know,
like CrossFit just makes you a better
person in general.
I think gaining that confidence in the gym
is, you know,
it's only helping him in every aspect of
his life.
is tutor shy or just a child tutor
shy i just think he's an introvert very
much yeah like if i look like tudor
i would be the biggest extrovert in the
world i'd be walking to the grocery store
shirtless i would be like put me on
gq that man is hot i am a
straight man but that dude is hot i'm
surprised he doesn't have more of the
ladies
Knocking down his door.
I thought Kyra's was the best.
I thought Lydia Fish's was the best.
I liked Lydia's questions to Dave.
We got to know how long Dave has
been married.
We got to know about his family life.
No other athlete has dove into that
before.
Well,
he doesn't always share that kind of
stuff.
That's awesome that she asked that.
I love that.
Yeah, it was great.
uh uh tutor was great on the glintons
yeah they really loosened him up and it
was good it was a good interview um
uh the greatest adaptation to crossfit
takes place between the ears some greg guy
say that said this and very true
Very true.
And I think that is something Tudor did
have to work on.
Yes.
And last year he took tenth.
I cannot wait to see what the follow-up
is.
So.
What else do we have?
We had a couple announcements this week.
Pig, snail, bike.
Oh, yeah.
It's all exciting.
I think that's super exciting.
Those are implements I think people have
been wanting to see again.
And I think it just brings you more
to the outdoor event type atmosphere when
you get implements like that,
which people have been asking for.
I love it.
I've been asking for them.
I'm excited.
So now we have hopper, pig, snail, bike,
pool.
And there's one other thing I know I'm
missing, but we have a lot of implements.
That means I think a more well-rounded,
better for the spectator.
Is Tudor disappointed if he finishes tenth
again?
I think he would be,
but as an analyst,
I would say it's such a hard field.
It is a very difficult field.
I think anyone in the top ten is
literally world class.
The top ten is going to be crazy.
Whoever finishes in the top ten should
have no disappointments.
I think it is not unreasonable to think
that the gap between first and tenth is
the smallest we've ever seen.
Yeah.
I just think.
I mean,
podiums are going to be crazy on both
sides, honestly.
I think it's exciting on both sides.
um well no specialized bikes i don't i
don't know i if if i were to
pick the bike workout i want bike repeater
to come back and that was that's the
rope climb one yep yep oh that's cool
it was the most simplistic bike ride
but the most fun with the rope climbing
it.
Yeah.
So... Earlier this week,
I did mention an idea to fix the
games.
Oh, what was that?
So I think...
We're at a place where spectators are
dwindling.
I agree.
People are not watching like they used to.
And when I say people,
I'm not talking about you, me,
or the people in the chat.
We are there every week for everything,
no matter if it's on an iPhone or
whatever.
Agreed.
I think we need to strip everything back
and only ten men and ten women make
the CrossFit Games.
Because that is your spectacle, right?
And if you think of the spectacle in
every other sport,
it's a championship game.
Even the Olympics are one heat for the
gold medal.
That's because there's so much going on at
the Olympics.
But the Super Bowl is down to two
teams.
The
It just is.
Now think about it as a spectator and
not you as a geek to the sport.
An event would be done in twenty to
thirty minutes.
So it's not an all day sit in
front of your computer watch.
Well, what are you having them do?
Four events a day over three days?
It's still every two hours.
You can catch up at the end of
the day.
It's a couple quick events.
It's one heat per.
I don't know that I would prefer that.
I'm not asking if you would prefer it.
I know that people already scroll ahead.
Like if you were,
if you're going to go watch it,
if you're at home for the weekend,
you fast forward to the last heat.
Correct.
Correct.
Which is like exact.
It wouldn't matter.
It'd be the exact same, but that,
but a person coming off the street isn't
going to know to fast forward past all
this stuff to get to the last heat.
So how is the,
the broadcast litter is just like,
Event one, and then it turns off.
And then a new show pops up,
event two.
It's a different YouTube feed every time.
So it's event one, event two,
and you go...
Or I think it's a better sell to
networks.
It would fit in a half-hour show.
It would fit in a streaming.
Why can't you post-produce that anyway and
be like...
here was our four events from the day
and here of these four top heats.
Here we go.
Post-produced sports suck.
Most what?
Post-produced sports suck.
Well, it would be, you can't, that's,
but that's exactly,
you would post-produce that.
Like you're not selling that to the
network.
Hey, we're going to have these three,
we're going to have these four events.
They're going to be every two hours for
twenty minutes.
Like, how are you getting that on
Network TV.
Now hear me out.
Did we, when we were on ESPN,
the last couple of times we were on
ESPN,
didn't we run live events on like Friday
night, Saturday, Sunday afternoon?
Yes.
I think they,
I think they did their mile run in
the, in the bag sprint.
Yeah.
Right, but if you only had one heat,
you don't have to dictate your programming
to the network.
Whatever it's going to be,
unless you do MRF or some kind of
long run or whatever,
you can fit it into a half an
hour show.
How are you fitting it into a half
hour show is what I'm asking.
By post-producing it, right?
No, run it live.
How are you doing four events?
You can't do that.
I didn't say four events.
When we were on ESPN before live...
You're just taking one of their events.
You're just going to say event four is
going to be on TV?
Right.
And on ESPN on a Sunday,
they're trying to fill time.
You could run one or two of them.
You could do that.
You could do that with...
Again, you would just be like,
here's our final heat, put this live,
which I kind of think they did anyway.
You didn't even get in on the first
heat when they put it on that.
Okay,
but there's nobody showing up either
because who wants to sit through the same
workout eight times?
If I'm going to go there and I'm
going to be there at eight a.m.
for event one and then back in there
at eleven a.m.
for event two and then back in there
at one thirty at one thirty p.m.
for event three and back in there at
four for if I went and spent the
money to go watch,
I'd rather if I wanted to be able
to sit there and watch for eight straight
hours.
What the heck?
Then I'm not going to go.
But you're looking at this as you.
I mean,
I don't know about the general fan who
I mean, there's a lot of problems.
And I think, though,
to do it down to ten at the
games,
you have to have a much better season
to get there.
A much more straightforward,
linear season that makes sense,
that creates drama getting there.
And then the championships are the ten
elite athletes going head to head.
I don't like the point system for a
ten-person event.
When they did the ten people...
You have to strip this down to nothing
and start over.
I don't know.
The only thing I think could be good
about it is if they somehow involved the
community at these events because there's
all this dead time in between events.
That's the only way it could work.
Yes.
Yes.
But
But I feel like that's what was great
about everyone all together.
And there was something for everybody.
And it was,
you had the spectator workout or area,
like they already had it nailed down and
it was doing great.
Like you don't need to cut it back
to make it do great.
You needed to keep it all inclusive.
Okay.
We have, we have multiple problems.
We have a season that doesn't make sense.
We have dwindling attendance at events.
We have dwindling numbers on streaming.
And no vendors are showing up anymore
because nobody goes to the vendors.
So if you have downtime,
more people would go to the vendor village
to go to the vendors to spend money.
Let's think about like Wadapalooza.
There's these big gaps during the elite
individual events.
And people go into the vendor village
during those times.
And that's why Wadapalooza's vendor
village is three times the size of the
games.
Yeah,
but there's also like two thousand people
there.
Again,
it's because it's more inclusive and
everyone's there competing.
And they bring their friends and family.
If you cut the fields down,
you could add a couple of the age
groups in to fill some of that gap.
But only ten of them get to come
to the games, too.
One, the ticket prices are way too much.
Agreed.
I think that's your biggest issue.
But it's more than a one-issue fix, right?
And whether you like my idea or not,
someone has to sit down and just strip
it down to bare bones and start and
not do things because we've always done
them or because we did them ten years
ago and it worked ten years ago.
The younger generation will not sit down
for lengthy periods of time to watch
something.
You have to make it easy for them
to see it on their phone.
You have to make it quick and easy
to see.
And the numbers show that we are not
getting people to the games.
And whether that's ticket prices or too
long of an event, I mean, my God,
I love, love the Masters games.
I get sick of the same event for
twenty seven heats.
I agree.
I mean, I feel like.
I feel like the teens need to be
with the younger masters and then like the
older master.
I mean, I don't know,
maybe even split the fourteen fifteen off
with the older because I feel like the
programming is needs to be different.
Weights need to be different.
I think you can make the sixteen to
seventeen up to like fifty.
A little bit more difficult programming.
And it wouldn't be.
Seventeen heats.
I agree.
It'd be four heats.
I'm the one that said Masters should cut.
After forty nine.
Yeah.
Until we figure this stuff out.
Like.
Trying to fit this.
The Titanic.
Into a new.
A new port is nearly impossible.
It sucks because I feel... Truly,
I feel like the Masters are the sport
of CrossFit.
I know everyone says the Elites are
bringing the money, but do they?
If the Masters don't sign up for the
Open, there's not even really a season.
Look at the numbers.
It's the Masters.
I do...
I understand what you're saying.
And this is probably the biggest problem
with CrossFit as the sport.
To separate it from the methodology is
very hard.
The methodology is being put into practice
by the Masters athletes, right?
But nobody watches the Champions Tour on
the PGA as much as they watch the
regular PGA Tour.
It's just a fact.
People want to see the best of the
best.
I just say, whittle it down.
But again,
you better get the right ten there.
Because now you're down to ten.
So the season has to make more sense.
Right.
And I feel like the year of the
ten was not well done.
In my mind, I have...
some way to go smaller venue or affiliate
or whatever way you want to go to
get, to get down to like,
you qualify out of this just like,
and I know we're not the NFL,
but the NFL has divisions.
You have to win your division to make
the playoffs.
And then there's a couple wild cards,
right?
You have divisions around the world.
You have to win your division to get
to the games.
If you don't win your division,
you have to be a wild card.
And it has to be very specific how
you qualify as a wild card.
But as the funnel gets smaller,
the drama gets greater.
And if you make that funnel,
it's really hard to take two thousand
people qualifying for semifinals and put
drama around that.
Mm hmm.
right right if only the top two hundred
make it out of quarters there's a lot
of drama around quarters yeah and so it's
all about what is more consumable for a
viewer a spectator what brings the drama
back to this that it makes sense
But we have like, oh, my gosh,
I want to call this season last chance
you because everybody has multiple
chances.
It doesn't.
It's as it is so aggravating.
Yeah.
there are years that teams get upset and
don't make it through the playoffs.
And like everybody thought the Celtics
would go far in the playoffs this year,
they get beat early by a bad seventy
sixers team and the NBA went on and
had a great successful season.
Right.
There were still storylines.
There were still great things to watch.
Didn't hurt.
They got New York into the finals and
that's a big population.
Yeah.
But
That's what makes sports great.
You have to play the game.
If you don't show up on that day
to play the game, you're out.
I think that's why regionals was so
exciting.
It was your shot.
You couldn't, if you were sick, it sucked.
Yeah.
You were going to miss out that year.
Yeah.
So
As the quote actually goes,
you play to win the game.
And the more times you have to play
to win the games, to win the game,
to move on, the more drama it becomes.
I mean,
look at the college football playoff.
That thing was so unpredictable the last
couple of years.
You seed the people because of their
season.
And who would have picked Indiana to win
the national championship?
It didn't mean that people didn't enjoy
the championship game.
Just because Ohio State was at home this
year.
I love that Ohio State was home this
year.
Gave Indiana a shot.
So.
There would need to be more consistency
with the semifinals.
Amen.
Yes.
Yeah, absolutely.
I also believe that the semifinals,
the one thing we've gotten away from is
the surprise of what happens at the games.
When you have eleven semifinals doing
eleven groups of workouts,
there's nothing left to be new with when
you get to the games.
When you had all the regionals doing the
same six workouts,
there was a lot of stuff you didn't
get to see those people do until they
got to the games.
I agree.
I think that's where we've just become
oversaturated.
The space is oversaturated.
I understand CrossFit wanting to offload
things,
but those comps need to just be those
comps for...
their own thing and they shouldn't be a
part of the season if it you know
like people who aren't in the season go
do those comps and they should be big
community events like I think CrossFit
needs to be in charge of the entire
season with standard programming across
everything so that yeah so yeah you don't
like you are in charge of the programming
so the whole season makes sense here's the
hot take
In CrossFit, the methodology,
we want to help everybody become
successful and do well.
In sport,
you have to hurt people's feelings.
And CrossFit's afraid to do it.
CrossFit doesn't want to hurt anybody's
feelings.
They don't want the boo-hooing and
bitching about what happened during the
season.
So they let everybody have ten chances.
And they put in a last chance qualifier.
And they do all this...
All because they don't want people to have
hurt feelings.
Back in the regional days,
people got their feelings hurt.
And that's when CrossFit was the most
successful.
Because if people are getting their
feelings hurt, it matters.
Yeah.
So enough of the boohooing and crying
around.
We want that back.
We want the boohoo and the crying around
because that's what brings emotion to the
sport.
With that, that's all I got for tonight.
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With that, hope you have a great week.
We'll be back tomorrow with lunch with the
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Until then,
hope everybody has a great night and we'll
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