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How y'all are?
Welcome to Cookin' Cajun
with Corey on a Tuesday.
And you say, Tuesday?
But Corey's my Wednesday fix.
Well,
we had to move him to Tuesday because
I had Pete Shaw on today, later.
But then my job made me get
a meeting scheduled for the
same time Pete was to be on.
So I had to move Pete to
tomorrow at lunch and then
move Corey to Tuesday.
And now I have to go to this
stupid meeting this afternoon.
And that's my week.
Scott's juggling people.
It's fantastic.
juggling with people, lots of texts,
lots of calendar invites sent out.
And yes, Judy Reed, dumb work.
Dumb work.
I don't mind people meeting,
but I got a life.
Let me know what my meetings
are ahead of time.
Don't hit me with a surprise meeting.
my wife's the same way they
have so many meetings at
work calls blah blah blah
whatever and she's like
ninety percent of them
don't need to happen like
we would get so much more
work done if we actually do
our work instead of going
and having a meeting to
talk about doing our work
it's ridiculous it's funny
I just got out of a meeting
literally like at twelve oh five
When I hold that meeting,
when my partner is off and
I hold it myself,
we are in and out of that
meeting in fifteen minutes.
Today was sixty-five minutes.
Is everybody good?
Yeah.
All right.
Great.
That's my kind of meeting, Scott.
I do not dick around.
I am in and out.
Last time we were talking about it,
none of that matters.
What's happening right now?
Everybody who's here
remembers what happened last week.
That's fantastic.
Let's talk about what's
happening right now.
If there's not anything to talk about,
let's move on.
Don't need to bring out hypotheticals.
It ain't ever going to happen.
Yeah.
That kind of stuff drives me bananas,
especially with the work that I do.
Well, what if, bro,
you are describing a
scenario that is probably
never going to happen outside of a movie?
So my first professional job.
was was essentially osha I
was the department of
safety with with the state
of florida doing stat stats
and information for how
people got hurt at work
right it was part of the
national program we would
go to these national
conferences and we would
talk about like how do you
classify different injuries
and there's this guy from
boston he's at everyone and
he brings it up at every
meeting well I have
I have these fishermen that
go out and they do lobster
fishing and then they get
what's called crab asthma.
And if I, they get crab asthma,
how do I classify that as an injury?
So whenever anybody brought
up a stupid idea,
we just started calling it
another crab asthma.
What could that possibly be?
Crab asthma.
It it's, it is real.
it is a real illness that
you can get on like fishing boats, but,
but it never happens.
Like, and it only, only in like,
if like you ain't getting
crab asthma in Nebraska and
they don't care.
Yeah.
Nobody in Arizona is getting crab,
crab asthma.
It's not happening.
Right.
So then that just became
like the catchphrase for
all stupid questions.
Oh, I love it.
I absolutely love it.
Talking about safety dudes.
Look, when I was, uh,
we're construction driving
problems back in the day, we, uh,
we had a job in a plant around here,
excuse me.
And the first day we were there,
we met the safety guy that was on site.
Right.
And now he's now, you know, how tall I am,
which is not very right.
And this dude came up to me
like right here with his hard hat on.
Nice guy,
big red horn hat said preacher
right here across the front of it.
Right.
So, um,
because we had some turnover and
whatnot in our job,
like everybody on the job sites, Joe,
it's just easier.
Right.
I don't have to remember Scott, Jeffrey,
Helson, Judy,
like everybody's Joe doesn't matter.
So he walks up to us and he
introduces himself, blah, blah, blah,
whatever.
He said, the guy over here is like,
I Joe appreciate it.
We got stuff to do.
And he goes, no, no, no, no, man.
They call me preacher.
And we was like, hi, Joe.
And he's like, no, man, my name's not Joe.
They call me preacher.
And he points at it on his hard hat.
And I said, hi, Joe.
And like one more time,
getting kind of irate.
And he said, man, they call me preacher.
And I said, well, on this job,
you're going to be Joe.
And like,
we just left and went about our stuff.
It took him about three days
before he realized that
everybody out there was Joe
and he was okay.
So I understand.
I've,
I've been showing my job now for
enough time.
But my daughter's doing
something really cool today.
I'm very proud of her.
She's in the Yellowstone,
the National Park.
She's a photographer for a company.
They sell bear-proof coolers.
They're going to Yellowstone.
They're putting their
coolers out there for the
bears to come get it.
They're going to film to see
if they can get in their
bear-proof coolers.
It's funny you should mention that.
One of my...
The last dude that I was a roommate with,
Matt, he got a,
that was one of the
features or whatever of the
Yeti that somebody had
bought him for some reason
was that it was bear proof.
And so the running joke at
the house was that, I mean,
ain't no bears around here so far.
He's doing his damn job.
And he texted me, I shit you not,
last week with a picture of the,
and he said, still ain't seen no bears.
I feel like I'm doing it.
I feel like this thing really,
we got our money's worth out of it.
Andrew, next time I see Corey,
I'm calling him Joe.
You should.
You should.
Let me tell you something.
It has taken a concerted
effort of will since I got
out of the crane,
out of construction and
doing what I do now,
which is an office setting,
to not still call everybody Joe.
Like even when I'm at the gym,
It sometimes just naturally comes out.
I did it for fifteen years, dude,
like it was a long time.
So I can tell you right now, Drew,
first of all,
happy birthday from this weekend.
Secondly, if you call me, Joe,
I can promise you I'll answer.
Yeah, just be prepared to get it back.
Jay Burch Yellowstone
National Park is going to
allow that they have made
the arrangements with the
with the company with the
National Park but what's
going on Jay Burch Judy
Reed see me rolling I think
that was see my boobs right
It is.
All right.
Cool.
I've got Andrew Stan.
We got Aaron Frazier.
We got Helson.
What's going on, everybody?
So cool that you guys are
all with us today.
Outstanding.
Dad took a new Sprinter van out,
so SEMA boobs should return soon.
So, before we get into the CrossFit stuff,
like we haven't talked enough already,
LSU National Champions.
Did you see any of the press
conferences with the Coastal Carolina?
He's got a little girl enough to do it.
He was like, our motto is CrossFit.
and I'm paraphrasing here,
so I'm not quoting him directly,
but he basically said that
our motto over here is
personal responsibility,
taking accountability,
and then proceeded right
after that to throw all the
accountability off of
himself and onto the umpires.
Leading up to the actual two
championship games,
they had interviewed him
and a couple of players and asked him,
what do y'all admire about the LSU team?
team like what you know that
as far as their and then
they said like there was a
long awkward pause and they
were like not much and then
we proceeded to win two out
of three right off like
just basically sweep them
in two out of three series
so yep don't do shit like
that like you are setting
yourself up for failure
well and you are coastal
carolina you are not alabama
Like,
just be proud that you made the
championship game.
You haven't been here since
twenty sixteen.
Maybe or eighteen or two.
Maybe you should settle down a little bit.
But they went on a twenty
six game winning streak.
Like they won twenty six in a row.
Good for them.
Happy for them.
But like at some point,
you should probably tone it
down a little bit.
And realize that, yeah,
you still got two games left to play.
So maybe not talk shit.
Yeah.
Well,
let's dive into some CrossFit stuff
before we get too far into this.
Last night, Dave's Week in Review,
he announced that there
would be two announcements today.
We think we've seen one.
And I think Aaron Frazier
already referred to this in the comments.
Say!
Criss-cross applesauce.
Criss-cross applesauce,
my favorite thing to do.
Yay.
I still have a great video
of one Mr. Corey Leonard
doing criss-cross
applesauce at the Masters
Fitness Championships.
Not well.
It did not end well at all.
It did not end well at all.
On a related topic,
before we get too far into
this Chris Goss episodes,
can we all agree that
Allison Scuds is going to
be the demo team captain
basically for the rest of time?
Yes.
Okay.
God bless her.
I hope she makes, she's awesome.
I really wish she would make the games,
but as it stands right now, sweet baby,
she's going to be a lot of
these type videos.
Can we also say that her
partner and soon-to-be
husband is a stud and so
cool that he was on the
show with us Sunday night?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Having said that, I'm not mad at this.
But didn't Dave say he hated it?
Apparently he didn't hate it that much.
Because here we are.
It's funny.
Part of it last night,
I watched the rest of it this morning,
and he was talking about
teaching somebody
double-unders and then
talking about looking to
see how their single-unders
were first to see if you
could teach them
double-unders because I
could teach you a whole lot.
He said,
in other high-skill stuff like
crossovers and triple-unders,
he even mentioned that.
Today, we get this with the crossovers.
Trinked Olive prefers triple unders.
And Lito did confirm he did
say he hated it.
Yeah.
Mr. Albernaz said, hey,
demo people make more money
than most games athletes.
There you go.
I mean,
they got to pay them for all their time.
I'd imagine like,
you don't just fly them out
there and have them testing
stuff and living up there
for however long they stay.
Cause I mean,
it's probably a pretty
substantial amount of time I would think.
And the guys that come out,
twenty-ninth is probably
not making as much money as
the demo team people.
I would probably, yeah,
I would agree to that.
Uh,
Trained Olive laughs because if people
don't know, uh,
Trained Olive is Cajun for train to live.
It is.
and judy reed says and demo
team's probably way more
fun I would think so dude
because like yeah you need
to perform and you need to
be able to to be at that
level whatnot but like the
pressure is off like you
just need to go and show
test these workouts show
people how to do it when
it's time for like and
that's it you're gonna do
like a round or two and
then go on about your
business get cleaned up get
ready for the next one
let's be honest though for
For us jabronis,
it's easy to say it'd be
more fun and it pays more.
But if you're a competitive athlete,
then you want to grind.
I don't want to be on the demo team.
No, no.
You want to grind.
Yeah.
I don't want to be on a demo team.
God bless them.
They are always – I mean,
last year with – was it Allison, Colton?
Who's the other two?
What was her name?
It was that young kid, wasn't it?
Anika.
Anika was on demo last year?
Yeah.
Worst year to be a demo team member ever.
Unfortunately.
Yeah.
Sten says demo athletes work
way harder than competitors.
They're constantly testing
even at the games.
They are.
It's crazy.
Trista Smith.
That's what I was trying to think of.
Thank you, Judy Reed.
Does this mean teams will
have double darts?
Double Dutch bus going down.
Yes.
Yes.
Look, just sitting there getting after it.
I am down with that idea.
Let's make that happen.
Whatever we need to do,
whoever we need to call,
let's make some calls.
Let's send some emails out.
Teams do double Dutch.
And they have to, like, do the cadence.
Like, and sing the whole time.
I just want you to sing the song.
As long as I get you singing the song,
I'm all in, man.
Signed.
Signed, sealed, delivered.
I love it.
So that seems to be the only
announcement that has come
out from CrossFit Games so far today.
Yeah.
But he did say two
announcements were coming out today.
I'd love to know what the other one,
like I don't even have an
idea what it might be.
Like maybe give you a hint
towards a strength event.
If it's something off the wall.
It could be as simple as a sponsor.
Right.
Could be who bought CrossFit.
You think they're going to
make that public right now?
How far out are we?
Two months?
Yeah, not even.
Six, seven weeks?
Six weeks?
Be a bold choice, I think,
to just go ahead and drop
that bomb today on a random
Tuesday at the end of June.
Not saying that they won't
because they've done crazier stuff.
I think he said it didn't
have anything to do with the sale.
Oh, I know, Andrew.
I'm just trying to create.
Yeah,
but we're trying to create drama here,
Andrew.
But Andrew's a lot of fun at parties.
Yeah.
Actually,
he said it didn't have anything
to do with the sale.
We're trying to have a fun conversation.
We're trying to be like keeping it real.
No fact base.
Just some stuff.
None.
I looked at what other people said.
I looked at what other people said.
I formed my own opinion,
which was exactly the same as theirs.
I just made a video about it.
I hope I don't see you in Kansas, Andrew.
I actually booked my plane
tickets last night.
We are all the way official, so
So let's move on.
Yes, sir.
Someone did something pretty
cool in the CrossFit space,
and that is one Mr. James Sprague.
Six weeks out from CrossFit Games,
he decides to do an Ironman.
That is crazy town banana pants.
Are you kidding me?
Bro.
Did you see his time?
Yeah.
Insane for just a guy doing CrossFit.
Yeah.
And that's what,
so that's a seven point three, right?
That's a, that's a half Ironman,
but still his swim time
alone as someone who's been
swimming and trying to
actively learn how to swim
for distance is that's, that's it.
That's those are insane
times for somebody who does CrossFit.
I was a swimmer at a high end swimmer.
doing hundred meter
intervals on like a minute
thirty would be insane in the pool.
You said a minute
thirty-five average in open water.
Scott,
I struggle to maintain a hundred and
three and a half minutes.
He was a swimmer though, wasn't he?
Yes, he was.
That is open water.
I'm trying to tell you guys, in a pool,
that's an insane pace.
In open water, it is ridiculous time.
Open water, competition,
other people out there,
all the factors thrown in there,
that is bananas.
I saw that and I was like,
His chip timer went bananas.
It went off some weird way.
There's no way.
I'm going to tell you something else too.
If somebody has been riding
their bike around the
neighborhood a whole lot,
like I can do ten miles.
Now granted,
I don't have a real fancy road bike.
I have a semi-fancy mountain
bike that I ride around.
So I don't have road tires
and clipping pedals, all that nonsense.
But to average almost
nineteen miles an hour, you truck it.
you are, you are like, that's not,
it's not lollygagging around.
Um, I can do, I usually do,
or like Sunday or Saturday,
rather I did ten miles and
it takes me just under
forty minutes or just that
forty minutes to do ten miles.
That's averaging somewhere
around fourteen miles an hour,
fifteen miles an hour.
And I am
I'm not a fantastic biker,
but I'm not terrible either.
Like I know what it takes to
hold that kind of pace for
that amount of time.
And what this is like a
hundred and seventeen miles
or something like that.
It's a lot.
It's a lot.
And at eighteen,
averaging eighteen point
seven five miles per hour.
That that's the part that
that stands out to me like
that is trucking, dude.
That is that is moving right along.
So this is my question.
What can't this man do?
I win games last year
granted we had the lazar
jukic tragedy and not
everybody finished the
games and he wins the games
and everybody's like well
he only did it because of
the programming this guy
qualified for the world
championships in high rocks
he just completed an iron
man at an insane time and insane paces
Is he trying to say, like,
just line the stuff up for
me and I will show you how
fit I am and why I am the
fittest man on earth?
Is there anybody better at
endurance shit than James is right now?
No, there is not.
There just isn't.
I don't throw anybody's name
out there that you want.
There just isn't.
And, yeah, what Judy said right there,
his half mile to run,
to average a seven forty
six mile for thirteen miles,
seven forty six, excuse me,
for like under just holding under eight.
After the swim, after the bike.
Again, crazy town, banana pants.
Simi says,
didn't he win what a palooza to.
Oh, yeah.
Check that box as well.
I'm excited to see what he's
going to do this year, dude.
I really am.
And went to Rogue,
finished top ten with pneumonia.
With pneumonia.
With low lung function.
Can't breathe.
It's okay.
I'm going to fly across the
pond and still finish top ten.
And yes, Aaron, he is an awesome dude.
He's a dude, period.
Like there's no,
what you see is what you get.
He is goofy.
He is kind.
He is just great human beings.
what a, what a guy, man.
And I, and I, I love the kid.
Um,
I actually knew his dad before I knew him,
uh,
through master's fitness was
collective at the time now championship.
Um, so I,
I got to know his dad before I
got to know him and his dad
is just one of the greatest dudes ever.
Like the apple did not fall
far from the tree.
Right.
Um,
I think he could be a
world-class high rocks
athlete too if he wanted to.
Without even really training for it,
he made the world championships.
Yeah.
I would say he already is a
world-class high rocks
athlete without trying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let him try and then see.
Yeah.
If he actually was like...
He would be bored as hell
doing high rocks.
Doing the same movements every day.
Same moves over and over again.
I mean,
there's only so many wall balls you
can do before you just like, okay,
I got it.
I don't know if you guys saw
the preview for tomorrow's
Rich Froning podcast.
It's going to be a hot one.
Like seven inches from the midday sun.
Yes, sir.
Let me see if I can pull
that up real quick.
You should have had that
sound bite ready in the sky.
We could just play that.
It's a great song.
Here is a preview of
tomorrow's Rich Froning
podcast with Brent Fikowski.
Are we ready?
Your biggest problem right
now is your buy-in to the
PFAA or really just into
the things that you're pushing.
Probably the buy-in from
people who just disagree
with you or think they disagree with you.
And I think a lot of it
stems from the demands after the game.
Absolutely.
I think a lot of your
biggest problem right
now... Let's get right into it.
That has been what I've been
trying to say all along.
The PFAA is only as strong
as the support it gets from
the other athletes.
Brent just going off saying
things without the backing
of the other athletes is meaningless.
And that they needed a
better organizational
structure to show that they
were all together.
And they put the cart before the horse.
And I took it on the chin
for freaking months when I
was saying that.
That they did not put
together a good voting strategy,
a good support strategy for
that organization before
they went all in with these demands.
They basically said, oh, wait,
we have an organization
that we made up yesterday, essentially,
and this is the things that we want.
And they got laughed at and
didn't understand why they
got laughed at.
I can tell you why,
because of what you just said.
You have nothing to back it up.
The return of the king.
Oh, excuse me, not the return of the king,
the two towers.
You have no power here.
You have no power here.
So what soapbox,
what bargaining chip do you
think you have?
You do not.
Because the people that,
we talked about this before,
the people who are not
competing this year because
they stepped out because
they're either part of the PFFA, PFA,
they stepped out for whatever reason,
the season moves on.
With or without you?
I, for one, I like Brent.
We have a, we, well,
probably till just this moment,
we had a good relationship.
Probably till right up until just now.
I like the idea of an
organization for the
athletes to be able to
communicate what they need and want.
But it should be done in a
way that makes sense and it
takes into account all the
athletes and not just three
elected officials who deem
what is important and what is not.
And because you elected them
nine months ago,
they get to say whatever they want.
and that and they are
representing everybody that
makes no sense you should
have meetings with
everybody get votes on
controversial topics so
that you can say in a vote
of eighty nine to sixty
four we voted this through
and these are the demands
we want to make that holds
way more water than eight
of us sign this document
this is what we want this
is what we think
And it's the same eight
people who've been saying
the same things for however long.
So like, all you did was say that, okay,
instead of us saying it individually,
we're all saying it,
the eight of us or however many it is,
are all saying it together now.
So I'm not against an
organization for the athletes.
I'm not running it.
I just always thought the
structure sucked.
You have no authority.
You have no,
and it's an outside body at that.
Like,
You have no association with
CrossFit other than the
fact that everybody that's in it does it.
Thank you, Andrew Stinn,
for being the voice of reason.
That is correct.
Every other players association does.
Members get a vote.
Especially on the big ticket items.
Maybe the board will pick
what bank account they use
and pick the little stuff.
Inconsequential stuff.
Let's call it that.
When you're putting a demand
you want people fired,
the member should have voted.
And why do you want to go with that?
Because reasons.
Because I've been wanting
him going for years and now
I've got these other people
that agree that we can all
kind of try to present some
sort of united front and say it.
The problem was it's what
those few people wanted.
They flexed,
thought they had enough juice
behind the flex and they didn't.
And now they've got nothing.
And now they're starting
from less than zero to
build this back up if they want to.
They had a bluff.
It was called cards on the table.
What do you have?
Nothing.
Oh, well, all right.
Moving right along.
What did CrossFit do in response?
Oh, here's the CAC again.
This thing that we already had once,
and then y'all decided
y'all didn't want to have,
and then y'all decided we needed,
so we just brought it back.
Here's a CrossFit athlete console,
which is actually
represented by athletes
that are still doing CrossFit.
I can't wait, dude.
I cannot wait.
I think Angelo is...
Probably just starting to
get his recognition as
being a fantastic
interviewer of people and
talking to somebody who
knows so much about the
space and what's going on.
And he is not scared to talk
to people and ask questions
and tell them exactly what's on his mind.
And I think that makes for a
phenomenal interview
experience if he's let off
the leash and let him say
what he wants to say.
What I want to know,
and this is on a different subject,
but on last week's Rich Froning podcast,
they briefly mentioned that
Angelo got a contract with
Mayhem to do something in
their organization now.
But they did not say what that was.
And so I am really anxious
to see why he was brought on,
what role he's playing.
I mean, he does a lot for Mayhem now,
just as like a friend.
Yeah, but they made something official.
Yeah.
That's a... Really slight
pickup in the background, but yeah,
I'm anxious to see.
Lita said, food for thought.
Do you think that if someone,
not saying Castro necessarily,
had been fired or resigned,
we'd be in better position now?
Okay.
My thought is no.
My thought is that we see
these public faces and
they're not really the ones
running the show.
The people running the show
are the board of directors
for the private equity firm.
They're the ones making all
these decisions and it's
Castro and fall and all
these people coming out in
front of everybody,
having to communicate that message,
whether they believe it or not.
And I think that that is the problem.
I would agree to that.
I would definitely agree to that.
I don't see that as solving a problem.
That is throwing fuel on the fire, I guess,
to keep everybody warm for a little bit.
But then once that burns out,
then what happens?
What's changed?
God bless Lazar.
He's still gone.
I think,
and Lito follows that up with in
terms of a less divided community.
I think you're going to have
the divided community regardless.
You have people who love Dave Castro.
You have people who hate Dave Castro.
Yeah,
I don't think there's a lot of middle
ground here.
No.
Not a lot of people in the middle.
And I think that if they fired him,
you'd have the same half
that supported him upset
that they fired him.
Yeah.
And then the other half glad
that he's gone.
And then the same board of
directors running the whole show anyway.
Well,
here's the thing about that kind of stuff,
too,
that comes to mind is that where does
it end?
So the next person,
so you fire Dave Castro and
the people that hate Dave
Castro are having a party, whatever,
excited.
And then whoever is going to step up,
steps up.
And then something else
happens next year or two years from now,
or three years from now,
we fired that dude.
And then what, like you just fired to,
to appease people said, oh, well,
these people think these
guys should be fired.
We should probably fire.
And then, and then what did you see?
I did see that running may have Angelo,
the contract running mayhem.
So rich can be CEO.
Hmm.
Let me tell you this.
I'm not saying it's going to happen,
but I would not be upset if it did.
Does that make sense?
It all depends on the structure behind it.
You can put whoever you want in that seat.
It depends on the ownership
group behind it.
How is that configured to
support the people they put out there?
Are they going to give them autonomy?
Are they going to give them
the ability to do what they want to do?
Or is it a board of
directors they still have to report to?
That's the piece that people
keep forgetting.
We can put faces out there
all we want left and right.
If that face doesn't have
the ability to do what they
want to do and do what they
think needs to be done,
then none of it matters.
No, if it's just in CEO,
it's just a figurehead at that point,
somebody to roll out there
and just spew whatever
talking points they have for the day.
What good is that doing?
What good is that doing
anybody at that point?
You could put anybody.
You could put me up there.
We could put Scott up there.
It really wouldn't matter
because they're just
sitting there and just saying, yep,
this is what happened yesterday,
and just literally reading
off of a script,
and they don't have any real power.
Whoever the new ownership
group is actually just going to be, hey,
hands off.
This is okay.
We're going to make,
we're going to make rich
CEO for whatever reason,
because we think he
actually has the right tools, vision,
knowledge,
whatever you want to call it to
keep pushing the methodology.
Let's make that clear forward.
Sports,
a by-product always has been the sport.
I have different thoughts about that,
but that's fine.
Yeah.
That's for a longer debate
on another day when we have
more than nine minutes in our lunch hour.
But,
but even if you look back at the
Glassman days, he would hire a CEO.
And then if that CEO wasn't
doing it the way Greg wanted it done,
you go, right.
So even though you'd put
these different CEOs as the
front facing piece of CrossFit,
Glassman was always
CrossFit because behind the scenes,
he's the one running the show.
Now we have this public
equity firm doing it,
and they are going to be
the decision makers of
CrossFit until they sell
and somebody else takes it over.
And we just don't know what
that new structure is going to be.
Facts.
So all I know is the current
structure does not work.
So whatever we're doing
today does not work.
And I am looking forward to the sale.
And it may be worse.
Who the hell knows?
But I know that whatever is
happening today is not working.
Right.
Right.
So hopefully, with that being said,
whoever is buying it is not
just going to maintain this.
Like, it's not a lateral move.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
You don't spend this much
money and make it a lateral move.
Well,
they spent that much money and
brought it backwards.
True.
They didn't know what they
were getting into.
If the people you think are
buying it are buying it,
they've been around the
space long enough to know.
Yes.
Well, they understand that, you know,
again, going back to what Greg said,
if you provide value,
the rest of everything else
is going to fall into place.
Like the money's going to
follow as long as you're
providing a product and
value that people actually want.
I firmly believe that.
Yeah.
So I don't know where I'm going.
So on another note,
I just watched the keeping
it real video this morning.
God bless you for watching Grant stuff.
when I was at the games last
year there were two people
that were my support team
um at the games because I
was there by myself until
cat showed up a couple days
into the games and um when
I was there grant and
amanda harry were my
support team and without
them I don't know how I
would have got through that
first day of the games and
But man, Grant, dude, dude,
you are killing me, brother.
Killing me.
Oh, Grant.
He made the statement and he
keeps saying these are the facts.
Just because you say they
are doesn't mean they necessarily are.
And he was saying that
The new company came over.
They started making cuts to the games.
And that's why there were
not safety measures in place.
And that could be why Lazar died.
The cuts were being made to
the games prior to the sale.
Greg made cuts to the games
after the two thousand eighteen season.
Those cuts were happening
well before the sale.
So that's one thing.
I'm not going to dive into all this stuff.
Just be careful what you're saying, dude.
And just because there's
low-hanging fruit out there
to hit doesn't mean you have to.
Please don't, as a matter of fact.
And I'm saying this,
and he's getting more views than I am,
and he's getting more clicks than I am,
and I love the dude.
Like, as a person, he is a good dude.
A hundred percent.
Super good dude.
But, dude, man.
I'm just burning up going,
that's not how it happened.
He's one of those people that's at, like,
a thirteen,
and I need you to turn it down to, like,
a six.
Just dial it back a little bit, brother.
Like, you're not...
You're not doing terribly,
but I just need you to pull
it in a little bit so that
you have some accuracy, for one.
And yes, thank you, Judy Reed.
This is the other piece that
he said that was getting me fired up,
is that the games don't make any money.
I have heard from very high
sources that the games
actually make money.
The open makes money.
It's that stuff in the
middle that they have not figured out.
Yeah.
That middle stuff loses money.
And at a rate that hurts the
bottom line for the whole structure.
The whole structure, yeah.
I can see that.
And I believe that CrossFit has never,
ever reached their full
potential of revenue streams.
They never run commercials
during any broadcast.
They don't do any kind of jersey sales.
The only kind of merch sales
CrossFit does are shirts
that say CrossFit.
That's it.
Full stop.
Right.
The only time I've ever seen
ads for CrossFit is during
a CrossFit event.
you're barking up the wrong tree.
The people that are watching
that are well aware of
what's going on and well
aware of how to get there.
Like you need to,
if you're going to spend
some money on advertising stuff, cool,
but let's put it somewhere
that it makes sense.
Or how about this?
Actually sell ad space
during your streams.
Maybe a good idea.
That's a revenue stream that
they have not even tapped into.
And who gives a shit who buys it?
Savon did.
Savon sold ad revenue during
both NorCal and Syndicate.
You know who else did?
Mayhem did.
Mayhem did.
Mayhem did during their broadcast.
They sold ad space during
their broadcasts.
Rory was doing live commercials.
From Vendor Village.
Like, think about how cool that is.
Yeah.
You have this massive vendor
village at the games.
You could have somebody,
a correspondent out there,
and highlight your vendors
during that time.
Hey, we're at,
this is Travis Bellinghausen
with Vindicate.
We're at his booth right now.
Right.
Increase the value of that
booth for him by promoting
what he's doing out there.
Knowing Travis,
kind of just using him as
an example as the first
person that comes to mind,
he would be way more likely
to spend out the ridiculous
amount of money they want
for a booth spot there if
something like that would happen.
Right.
And then the value of the booth goes up,
which means more revenue stream for you,
CrossFit.
how it all works it's weird
how that works here's the
best part about this scott
is that you got a dumb coon
ass and uh a former d-one
swimmer that figured that
like we we can figure that
out yeah I know it's not
popular today but I do have
an mba you know oh excuse
me mr mba I don't
But I never really worked in marketing or,
I mean,
I was always a stats guy and a
teacher basically.
But either way,
what I'm getting at is that
two dudes on a podcast on a
Tuesday morning can put our
heads together and go, Hey, you know,
would be a really good idea.
And it wouldn't, it doesn't,
what would it cost?
Bring the camera out there.
Like they can, wherever they're,
wherever they're broadcasting from,
they're broadcasting.
Not only that, make it part of a package.
Like if you get a vendor booth,
you also get ad space during the stream.
Yep.
You can get this package
where you get that.
You can get this package without that.
Things like that.
There's so many creative ways to do that,
that they just are missing
out on completely.
One thing about like,
And this game,
this is not because of my education.
This is because I watch sports.
Yeah.
Right?
I watch other sports.
Look at that.
Lito becoming a new member.
Woo!
Thank you so much, Lito.
We appreciate that so much.
That helps us maintain the
software to run this thing.
Thank you so much for doing that.
You'll become a great,
great person in the chat,
and I'm so happy to have you as a member.
But anyway,
when people say that it can't make money,
I think that it has not
tried to make money.
No.
There are so many ways for
revenue streams.
So many ways that we haven't
even explored.
But Grant, so I don't know.
keep doing you, keep doing you.
And I'll just,
I'll just take deep breaths more.
I don't know.
God, God love that dude.
The one thing you do not
have to tell him is for him
to keep doing him.
He going to keep that up no matter what.
Yeah.
Uh, I was going to talk about, um,
let's finish on this boys
interrupted last night.
I got,
I got made five minutes before I
fell asleep.
So you're going to have to,
you have to fill me in.
Very entertaining as always.
Those guys have just hit it
out of the park.
Yep.
I was reminded of,
I've had a rough year with
some agents in the space and they are,
they came at me a little bit,
but I've always had a good
relationship with them.
So I was really surprised
that that happened to me this year.
What last they did is
reminded me why I like
those two dudes and,
I do think that they may be
barking up the wrong tree
at different things.
But as a whole, like, I like them.
They've both been on my show.
But I loved.
They are essential for this sport.
Oh, absolutely.
Right.
And it's like Dallin said,
his first sponsor was ESC Sounds.
And the owner of ESC Sounds says,
I didn't screw you over,
but somebody's gonna,
you need to get protected.
Right.
And that's when he hooked up
with Cooper Marsh.
Cooper Marsh is the,
O'Keefe was probably the
first agent that I talked to.
And then Cooper Marsh was the next.
Right.
When I was trying to grow this thing,
I reached out to them and said, hey,
I just am trying to figure
out a way to grow.
And both of them offered to
help me and mentor me.
And that is invaluable that
that happened early on.
And I really appreciate them for that.
And Daniel has been nothing
but cool to me until the
whole Brooke Wells thing
blew up this year.
And then I made one joke on
Instagram and everybody
lost their damn mind.
But I truly, truly love those guys.
And they are there for a purpose.
And I think last night
showed why they're there.
And I liked that they had that on there.
Doesn't mean I agree with
everything they do.
Not by a long shot.
Put your story on Hopper's
hair and just kind of move from there.
But I did like how they were
stealing athletes from each other,
and they talked about that story.
And they talked about the
recruitment of Hopper and
why Cooper lost him initially.
And they said, well,
how would you approach Jason now?
And he said, well,
I would just go over and
talk to Dallin until he got
so jealous he'd come over and talk to me.
That's accurate.
That's accurate.
That's fantastic.
So that was cool.
And again,
those dudes are so freaking entertaining.
The three of them.
I don't know.
It's the matches I didn't
think would ever happen.
Like I could see Dallin and Jason.
I did not see Justin joining that group.
That's why every single time,
every single time I see the
three of them together, like you said,
the two make sense.
And then there's Justin.
But all together, it actually works,
which is, I'm glad.
I'm glad.
I'm happy for him.
And we said last week, like,
they're the most successful
athlete podcast other than
maybe the Rich Froning podcast.
they're on episode twenty
six according uh I do
remember that from the
right whenever uh I said I
made it that's longer than
the daughters made it
that's slowing a lot of
people that's right
Jay Birch I've been friends
with Cooper since twenty
nineteen he really is a
good dude and he has been
nothing but supportive of
this show all along like I
couldn't when you first
start this thing trying to
get a hold of athletes in
DM's that you are not
friends with is very very
hard by getting in touch
with Cooper Cooper gave me
phone numbers and that got
me started which was tremendous
Can't ask for more of that.
Sprague would fit right in.
He's been on the show, I think, twice,
right?
Two or three times.
Yeah.
Jack Farlow's the man, though.
The Jack Farlow episode,
it may be my favorite of all time.
I might have to go back and get caught up.
There's so much stuff, dude.
Jack Farlow is harder than all of us,
is what I learned.
That I believe.
Yeah.
I'm good, like, during the day catching up,
you know,
or being on live shows when I've
been from my computer most
of the time anyway.
But, like, once I get home, I turn off.
Like, I get home, I eat.
I don't watch anything from
the end of work until I go to bed.
Yeah.
And then I put stuff on as
I'm getting ready for bed
and then as I'm going to sleep.
That's why I made about half of...
I finished Castro's weekend
review this morning while I
was eating breakfast.
Uh, and I mean, aside from that,
like I got a couple of things to say,
like it really,
somebody asked him what
events he was excited about.
And he was like, uh, one, three, four,
five, seven.
He said a lot of them.
Aside from that, like he didn't,
it really wasn't a whole heck of a lot.
Uh,
But I mean,
I guess that's going to be like that.
He's just going back on his week.
Well,
Bassett has some horrible travel stories,
but.
Yeah, I miss a lot of people.
Well,
we are way past our forty five
minutes and I'm late to get
back from lunch,
so I need to get back to work.
I have a one thirty meeting
with that guys.
You knuckleheads get back to work to.
We will see you next time.
Tomorrow, Pete Shaw talking about Metfix.
If you have not seen the
Hiller Instagram reel,
that was a lot of what I
had in my notes to talk to
him about tomorrow.
And I'm anxious to get some
answers on some of that stuff.
But kind of bummed that Hiller blew my
To be fair, dude,
Hill has been on top of that.
Hill has been like a dog on
a bone on top of that since
they started putting out,
especially his hair recently,
they started putting out.
He's been all over it.
Yeah.
So Pete Shaw tomorrow from MedFix.
He is the head of education for MedFix.
We're going to have him on
at noon during our lunch hour tomorrow.
So,
fifteen minutes early lunch hour
tomorrow.
And then we'll talk to him
and then we'll be back
regular lunch hour on Thursday.
Back at it with all the fun stuff.
With that,
we'll see everybody next time on
Lunch with the Clydesdale.