In The Tank

The Heartland Institute’s Donald Kendal, Jim Lakely, Justin Haskins, and Chris Talgo present episode 458 of the In The Tank Podcast. Another wild news cycle has seen President Joe Biden bow out of the 2024 election. With an endorsement from Biden, it appears as though the candidacy is Vice President Kamala Harris's for the taking. The In The Tank crew talks about the latest news before breaking down the things you need to know about candidate Kamala Harris.


PRIMARY TOPIC - CANDIDATE KAMALA HARRIS: WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW
 
The Federalist - Top 30 Reasons Kamala Harris Would Be A Terrible President
https://thefederalist.com/2024/07/23/top-30-reasons-kamala-harris-would-be-a-terrible-president/
 
Front Page - Who is Kamala Harris?
https://www.frontpagemag.com/who-is-kamala-harris/
 
The Spectator - Will the Real Kamala Harris Please Stand Up?
https://thespectator.info/2020/10/07/will-the-real-kamala-harris-please-stand-up/

(video) Kamala Harris CNN Climate Townhall on Dietary Guidelines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY0Ph-Z4QPI

(video) Universal Health Care for illegals
https://x.com/NRSC/status/1815808480709599308

(video) Tulsi Gabbard ends Kamala Harris's primary campaign
https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1815155219623227888

Creators & Guests

Host
Chris Talgo
Chris Talgo is the Editorial Director at The Heartland Institute and a research fellow for Heartland’s Socialism Research Center.
Host
Donald Kendal
Donald Kendal is a research fellow for The Heartland's Socialism Research Center, host of Heartland's In the Tank Podcast and Stopping Socialism TV, and a talented graphic designer.
Host
Jim Lakely
Jim Lakely is the Vice President and Director of Communications of The Heartland Institute.

What is In The Tank?

The weekly flagship podcast from The Heartland Institute features in-depth policy discussions connected to current news. Host Donald Kendal leads the discussion with the usual crew of Heartland Institute Vice President Jim Lakely, Socialism Research Center “Commissar” Justin Haskins, Editorial Director Chris Talgo, and others at this national free-market think tank. The entertaining and informative discussions often hit topics such as the environment, energy policy, Big Tech censorship, the troubling rise of socialism, globalism, health care, education, that state of freedom in America and around the world, and much more.

This podcast is also available as part of the Heartland Daily Podcast, the “firehose” of all the organization’s podcasts that take deep and entertaining dives into public policy.

Andy Singer:

Alright. It doesn't appear that we went live, so I'm gonna

Donald Kendal:

do this in your truck. I went live. Alright. We are live. Fantastic start to the podcast.

Donald Kendal:

That's Andy laughing in the background. Everyone, I just wanna start off the podcast talking about the significance of the passage of time. Because when time passes, it's significance. The time when it passes, significance. And we just have to be unburdened by what's happened in the past and always look forward, not backwards, but always twirling.

Donald Kendal:

Twirling with excitement over the now candidate Kamala Harris. Although I don't think that's official. We're gonna be talking about this absolute nightmare of a candidate and between because we're in crazyville and news passes, like, I don't even know, anymore because we're in Looney Tunes. So strap in, and we've got a lot to talk about episode 458 of the In the Tank podcast.

Joe Biden:

Guys, do not listen to the In The Tank podcast. It is a dangerous show of dangerous men with some dangerous malarkey, and I do not stand for it. Alright. Where's my vice president, Condoleezza Rice?

Donald Kendal:

Welcome to the end of the tank podcast, folks. As always, I'm your host, Donald Kendall. A little bit, my brain's a little short wired today. Well, youngest one in my family is teething, not getting good sleep, which means I'm not getting good sleep. But I'm still probably more there than Joe Biden, but we'll get to all of that.

Donald Kendal:

We'll get to all of that. We've got a couple of people joining us today. What do we got? We got Jim Lakeley, VP of the Heartland Institute. How are you doing today, good sir?

Donald Kendal:

Oh, he is muted. So

Jim Lakely:

muted again. Gosh. Good start, Jim. Well done. Yeah.

Jim Lakely:

You know, I'm doing pretty I'm doing pretty good. Do you guys see the, the address by the orange man last night? Not Trump, of course, but but Biden. He had quite a bit of, makeup caked on his face. I mean, little known fact.

Jim Lakely:

I actually put a little makeup on, before the show, you know, because don't, you know, ordinarily my face, I look like, Steve Buscemi, you know, and so the makeup makes it so I look like Jim Michael. Nice. But, you know, we were promised last night that Biden was gonna explain why he was withdrawing for the race from the race. Right? He didn't do that.

Jim Lakely:

And it's because he was pushed out. Didn't wanna say he was pushed out. And, you know, because this was not his choice. He said he's handing the torch to a new generation because he was forced to do that. That was a hostage video, guys.

Jim Lakely:

That was not and and a swan song for a, 50 50 years politician. You know, so it sounded to me like the the final speech for a politician that's on death row. Even but the good news is he even got ice cream in the rose garden for his final meal. As you mentioned, Donnie, these are the strangest politics, I think any living American has ever seen, and we got a long way to go.

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. Yeah. I wanna actually start with that, but I also have to introduce Chris Talgo, editorial director here at Heartland Institute. How are you doing today, good sir?

Andy Singer:

I'm definitely doing by better than Joe Biden right now. I'll tell you that much.

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. Well, maybe he's you know, he might be, getting ready to play, you know, 6 handicap, golf around here, Chris. So he might be doing doing well.

Andy Singer:

I think the odds of that are literally impossible. Oh. Put a 0 put a 0 on that. 60, maybe.

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. So, we're gonna be we're gonna be talking about, a lot of the latest news, obviously. The what was likely to be the candidates, and I know it's not official yet, Kamala Harris, the media's reaction to it, and kind of get into just how radical she is. Because, you know, like, when a vice president, they kind of just sit in the background. They don't really do too much.

Donald Kendal:

It's very easy to just ignore them, but now she's gonna be enforced straight into all of our faces. So we have to we have to ask the question, about what we should know about Kamala Harris. So we're gonna get into all of that. But before we do, I have that message I put out there at the beginning of all of these podcasts, which is, first, for those audio only listeners that might be catching the show on a Friday or later. First off, why don't you leave a review for us?

Donald Kendal:

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Donald Kendal:

Hit that like button, or just leave a comment under the video. All those things help break through those big tech algorithms that prevent content like this from being shown to more people. I just saw a thumbs up pop up. Someone was listening to me. But, like I said, we have a lot to talk about, but, you know, sometimes sometimes when, Thursday starts rolling around, like, what should we talk about?

Donald Kendal:

I don't know. There's not too much going on. Maybe we'll, talk about this or that. I don't know. We haven't been short of, topics lately, folks.

Donald Kendal:

It feels like this is the most unbelievable crazy political cycle that I've been alive for. I mean, I don't know, Jim. Maybe maybe there's some other historical ones that, kind of outshine this. But in just the last several months, we've got, like, Trump facing dozens of charges, felony charges. Trump convicted on some of these charges.

Donald Kendal:

That was late May of this year. The historic now, it's probably gonna go down in some history books, the Trump versus Biden debate, which was just absolutely crazy. That happened in late June. That resulted in waves of calls for Biden to step down or at least, you know, pull out of, running for, you know, election or whatever from the New York Times, basically, most of the mainstream media, sitting congressmen, influentials, political commentators, everyone calling for him to come out. I don't remember the last time something like that's ever happened.

Donald Kendal:

A failed assassination a fast a failed assassination attempt against, Donald Trump that happened just, what, couple weeks ago, and a successful political assassination of Biden, which just finished off, on Sunday, I think, officially. So, Jim, am I wrong? Is this the craziest cycle that that's happens in this past, at least, century?

Jim Lakely:

Yes. Without without any doubt. And I've forgotten about it's how, you know, crazy it is. It's so crazy that the fact that Donald Trump is a convicted felon on trumped up charges that it was obviously political lawfare to get him out of the race is completely forgotten. I had completely forgotten about all of that.

Jim Lakely:

Right. And we had talked about it several times because so much has happened since then. It's it's really remarkable. And like I said, we still have, you know, 1, 2, 3. You know, we got 3 and a half months to go and, until election day, and a lot can change and a lot of other more crazy things can happen between now and then.

Jim Lakely:

But the reason Joe Biden is being shoved out of his own reelection campaign, which is pretty remarkable because just 4 years ago, he collected the most votes for president of anyone in American history, way more than Obama, way more than Hillary. And 3 and a half years later, he is unelectable according to the to the leaders of his own party. So take that as you might and apply it to the results of the 2020 election and the effectiveness of Biden's, first term here. But it is as I said, I I I watched that last night. It looked like a hostage video.

Jim Lakely:

He had so much orange makeup on his face. You know, people were saying on Twitter that, like, it looked like he had a bruise on his on his jaw. And if you look at it, it does look discolored there compared to other places on his face. Joe Biden was unseen by anybody in the public or the press for, I think, it was 8 days, 8 straight days. I think the last time he was seen, he was gingerly walking down the steps of the the kids' stairs on Air Force 1.

Jim Lakely:

That was July 17th. Nobody had seen him at all until yesterday or the day before yesterday when he returned from recovering, supposedly, we're told, from COVID at his Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, you know, mansion vacation home. And then we saw him again last night. And it's just it's just remarkable that a that a president can basically be unseen, unheard. People were joking that we needed proof of life.

Jim Lakely:

I mean, I suppose we finally got it yesterday, but I have never I can't remember any time in my entire lifetime, I'm 53 years old, where nobody could nobody had spoken to the president. The president had not shown his face in public for such a long period of time unless there was a serious, serious health issue going on. You know, obviously, nobody saw Woodrow Wilson after he had a stroke. You know, very few did. But I just found it remarkable that, like, the speaker of the house could have just gone to the White House or contacted the White House staff and said, I am the speaker of the house.

Jim Lakely:

I'm the leader of 1 third of our, of our federal government, and I demand to see Joe Biden right now. I wanna go see him right now. That that never happened. It was really weird that it didn't. And and this is a White House that has lied about Joe Biden's mental and physical condition for the entirety from the campaign, from the 2020 campaign forward, where there is not a single, quote, unquote, fact official fact from the White House about Joe Biden's health that you can trust is true.

Jim Lakely:

That is why, you know, the media finally caught on to this, and people who listen to this podcast and don't depend on CNN and MSNBC for their news knew that something very odd and strange was going on. One of our viewers here, I'll throw it over to Chris, but one of our viewers here, said that what's been going on the last couple of weeks almost makes them feel sorry for Joe Biden. I don't. I don't because because we have the the White House has been lying to us, to our face, this his entire presidency, and the media has been gaslighting us, about the real condition of Joe Biden for his entire presidency. I find it hard to find empathy in my heart when those are the two things that are that have been dominating our media and our politics for the last 3 years.

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. I know that there was, like, some talk about, like, questioning whether or not this, Joe Biden was still alive. I didn't buy into that. I was wondering if he was hiding, you know, like a black eye, like a Harry Reid style black eye or something like that because they, you know, convinced them to step down, but, you know, that's just my own theory. Chris, I I just I I do wanna talk about Biden and the latest developments in that, of course.

Donald Kendal:

But, I mean, just to just to heap on more, like, national stories, global stories that that have happened just in, like, recent recent past, it seems like we've gone through a couple of decades worth of history in just the past 4 years. So, I mean, starting in, like, 2020, we've had the pandemic, global economic shutdown. We are all confined to our homes, mask mandates, social distancing mandates, vaccine mandates, shortages of bottled water, shortages of toilet paper, shortages of diapers, shortages of baby formula, disruptions in supply routes. Remember, like, every all those ships were, like, waiting to dock off, like, our main, you know, harbors or whatever on the, East Coast and West Coast. We had the George Floyd riots nationwide.

Donald Kendal:

We had the riot at the US Capitol, massive inflation, war with Russia, war in Israel, the Baltimore bridge collapse. We had those string of train derailments. We had forest fires in Canada that blanketed the entire United States with smoke. What is going on here, Chris? Can we hold it together for a few more years?

Andy Singer:

Well, I mean, I'm just gonna focus on just the past month. And you you guys both, already said this, but I just wanna, you know, repeat very briefly. So over the past month, we've had probably the most impactful presidential debate in all of history. We had an assassination attempt on a former president. It has not happened in, cheese, decades.

Andy Singer:

And then we have the president, bow out of the race literally at the last minute. I mean, that is in and of itself unprecedented. I was watching Fox News, broadcast last night of the speech, and Brit Hume, who is a very astute, political commentator and has been around Washington DC for longer than I've actually been alive, he said, and I take this pretty seriously, that this has been the most tumultuous month politically in the entire history of the country, and I and I agree with that. Yeah. I do.

Andy Singer:

Yep.

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. It's it's absolutely crazy. So, yeah, obviously, the news is, Joe Biden broke up with us via a tweet. He sent some some letter that was, you know, auto sign, not even on letterhead. Just put it out there on Twitter, and we all just had to accept it that he was stepping down.

Donald Kendal:

He's, for the good of the country, the party. I'm not I'm withdrawing from the election or or something like that. And what's crazy about that is, you know, what we've talked about over the last couple of weeks on this podcast is this divide between, you know, the the rest of the democrats and kind of the small circle around Joe Biden about whether all these people trying to push him out and him kind of stubbornly saying, no. I'm not getting out. And I just saw a video on Twitter that was kind of comparing his remarks that he gave yesterday, to remarks that he made at, like, I think the NAACP conference or something like that.

Donald Kendal:

I've some conference that he was at, like, 10 days prior where he was just like, oh, they're they want me to get out, but guess what? I'm not. I'm staying in, and we're gonna win this race. And it's just like, how did how did his feelings about these things shift so radically in such a short amount of time?

Andy Singer:

It's it's it's way worse than that. The day that he dropped out of the race with that tweet at, like, 1:15 PM or 1:15 PM. Yes. That morning on the Sunday shows, his campaign advisers were out saying that he's in this to win it, that he's staying in. So we're talking literally, like, maybe 90 minutes or so.

Andy Singer:

Sure. And, you know, apparently, what happened was is that he had a radical, you know, change of his mind at the very last second, and this was, you know, literally to the second. Yeah. I mean, I I agree with you. There was probably some pressure being applied by Pelosi and, company.

Andy Singer:

There's you know, we can speculate on that all day long. I don't really think that that really adds much to the conversation. I think it's much more interesting to speculate on whether or not Kamala Harris will remain their candidate. Because, really, I think right now what you've got happening is there's gonna be a couple weeks where they're gonna look at the polls, and the initial polls have come out do not look good for Kamala, especially in those swing states. Mhmm.

Andy Singer:

And I think, I I think that they are between a very, you know, in a very difficult position because if they were to say, okay. We don't think Kamala Harris can win, so now we're gonna go with someone else. It's like, wait a second. What? I think that that would be catastrophic for the Democrat party because they have made their entire, you know, political, agenda based upon identity politics.

Andy Singer:

So they they now have to live with that. But I also think and this is obvious. I'm you know, I'm not breaking any news here. Their number one concern is making sure that Donald Trump does not win. Sure.

Andy Singer:

Okay? So it's not that there's it's not that they're excited about Kamala's agenda and about her, you know, policies. They aren't. I've been watching the the, you know, news networks over the past couple days, and really all they're talking about is how energetic she is. What energy she yeah.

Andy Singer:

No. Seriously. They're not talking about they're not talking about the policies that she's, you know, proposing or the policies that she supported in the past or the policies that she supported as vice president, they want nothing to do with that. They wanna completely ignore that. So really all their their their their their their really they're really, you know, banking on the fact that she's energetic.

Andy Singer:

She's young. She's exciting, and that that in and of itself will convince voters to vote for her. And I think that that is a losing proposition, and I think that they're gonna get a, you know, like, a just a, you know, gut punch very soon. And I think it's also very interesting that Barack Obama has not made it clear where he stands yet. I think that he's just kinda waiting the wings, kinda waiting the shadows.

Andy Singer:

Like, I kinda wanna seize, you know, where this is. Barack Obama never came out and also said that Joe Biden had to go. Barack Obama is way more, you know, you know, he's he's he's he's not gonna be that upfront about it. So I think that really what what he's doing, and I think that he is the one pulling the strings and, you know, him and his, you know, collection of, former, you know, members of his administration, you know, I think that they're the ones who are really gonna determine this. And that is it's so ironic for the party who has been election American people about democracy and saving democracy.

Andy Singer:

Joe Biden also mentioned the word democracy 6 times last night in his, like, 12 minute speech.

Donald Kendal:

Sure.

Jim Lakely:

Sure.

Andy Singer:

So so how can they how can they run on a platform of we are the pro democracy. We are, you know, the the party that wants to maintain these democratic principles when, oh, we kicked out the guy that had that had 14,500,000 primary votes. We also and let's let's remember, this is not a new phenomenon for the Democrats. In 2016, they they, basically kicked Bernie off, you know, and they said, we're gonna just gonna make Hillary our candidate. Okay?

Andy Singer:

2020, what did they do? They rigged the primary season so that Joe Biden would win. And then 2024, what did they do again? They rigged it again. They put South Carolina first because they knew that Joe Biden would South Carolina.

Andy Singer:

Once he wants South Carolina, it probably would be a fait accompli. They they the Democrat party wants us to believe that they are the party of, you know, the voters and and and and these democratic principles, but they're not. They're the party of when at all costs, ends just by the means, Trump, you know, is is is their, you know, their just boogeyman, and, I think the American people aren't buying this anymore.

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. I mean, it doesn't surprise me that they're trying to kinda play up, Kamala Harris's ability to move considering that he's replacing. She's replacing a guy that's like the the first time you see the the the tin man in, Wizard of Oz. Just oil can. Oil can.

Donald Kendal:

So that doesn't surprise me too much. But, I mean, Jim, let's let's let's stay on Joe Biden just for a little bit longer because, you know, this idea everyone was calling for, you know, his political head, saying that he was just, like, mentally unfit. You know, he just wasn't cognitively there. His cognitive decline like, that's the reason why they wanted them out. That that's what was on full display during the debate.

Donald Kendal:

Right? That that's what gave all of these people all of the basic the ammunition to come out and say, like, yeah, we need to get this guy out of here. So why is it that he is mentally unfit to run for president, yet he's still mentally fit enough to be president for the next couple of months? Doesn't that seem a little hypocritical? I don't know.

Donald Kendal:

What do you think?

Jim Lakely:

Well, the simplest answer is that he's not actually president, that he is not making any decisions at all, except apparently for whatever flavor ice cream they're gonna have in the Rose Garden, when he, unceremoniously and, humiliatingly ends his long and distinguished distinguished only by, how what of a piece of work and a horrible human being he has been for most of his 50 years. You know, he started his political career, you know, his entire political career again, so we're gonna get gaslit again. Right? We're gonna be told that Joe Biden, well, first of all, let me go back because I was thinking about this when you guys were talking earlier. It was just weeks ago that Karim Jean Pierre from the from the, from the lectern in the White House briefing room was telling us, hey, guys.

Jim Lakely:

Seriously, Joe Biden is so active. We can hardly keep up with him. Yeah. Right. He's so active.

Jim Lakely:

Oh my gosh. You know? So the idea is, you know, painting the lie in people's face, you know, in their minds. That here you got, you know, young, 5th, 30 year olds who could barely keep up with, the president that we see shuffling around, you know, like an old mob boss trying to pretend he's nuts.

Donald Kendal:

After he gets up from his afternoon nap after he gets up from his afternoon nap, he does have a boost of energy just to just to be fair.

Jim Lakely:

Yeah. Right. And so, you know, look. And then now we're gonna be gaslit to say that Joe Biden, and it started right away, like, starting on Sunday when when the when the political acts finally fell that they were saying, you know, Joe Biden, he's such a good man. He's such an honorable man who's putting country, in front of his own ambitions.

Jim Lakely:

It's like, that is BS. Joe Biden has been a a nasty piece of work from the beginning of his political life. He still, to this day, lies about the traffic accident that took the life, of his wife, and one of his children. To this day, he still says that she was killed by a a a guy who drank his lunch, a drunk driver who slammed into and killed his wife. That is completely false and untrue, and he says it all the time.

Jim Lakely:

So the the the the family and that man who were involved in that accident, have the president of United States lying about them saying that it was, you know, a drunk driving accident when it was not. And I could go through I don't wanna talk about Joe Biden very much anymore. We could go through many, many other examples of of what a nasty piece of work and and not honorable band at all Joe Biden has been for the entirety of his public life. But, you know, here we have so so the I see that your question was, you know you know, if Biden is not well enough to run for reelection, he's obviously not well enough to serve as president of the United States. And as I said, he's not really the president of the United States.

Jim Lakely:

You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist. You just have to use your eyes and ears. The idea that he is, a man in command, that he's directing, he's running the country from behind the resolute desk is absolutely absurd. Everybody knows that it's the former Clinton apparatchiks or I'm sorry, former Biden say it again. Former Obama apparatchiks in the background that are running everything, that are running foreign policy, that are on the phone, that are, you know, at the Pentagon, that are running all of these agencies.

Jim Lakely:

Joe Biden doesn't have anything to do with this. Everybody knows that. If there's if there is a Biden that is actually running the country, number one candidate is Joe Biden, and number 2 candidate is convicted felon Hunter Biden. The the idea that Joe Biden is is running this country is crazy. But the reason it was important to bring up that that departure speech from last night in which Joe Biden, supposedly, himself promised to explain to the American people why he was getting out of the race.

Jim Lakely:

He did not explain why he was getting out of the race, and the media, actually, and the Democrats will actually not tell you why he's getting out of the race. He's getting out of the race because he is not mentally fit to run a campaign and to serve another 4 years, but they keep skipping over that part.

Andy Singer:

I disagree. That

Jim Lakely:

he they just say that he's not electable anymore, and that's why he's getting out. So it's actually the most cynical reason it's the most cynical reason that he's getting out of the race. His own party thinks he's not electable. What they do not finish this the thought with is say, why is he not electable? He's not electable because he's a senile, doddering, physically and mentally unwell person.

Jim Lakely:

And the American people saw that on June 27th during that debate. And so we're just gonna skip over all of that and just get right on to young, vibrant, dancing, happy, Kamala to take the to take the reign. So okay. Great. Let's do that.

Jim Lakely:

But I'm not gonna forget how this all got set up, and the American people actually aren't either.

Donald Kendal:

Chris,

Andy Singer:

do you remember I I yeah. I mean, I I I kinda disagree with that. I think the reason why he was pushed out of the race was because the poll showed that he wasn't gonna be Trump. And the Democrats, all they care about is beating Trump. And I think that, you know, his energy and all that stuff, that that's playing second fiddle.

Andy Singer:

Really, what's going on here is the American people, are are not in line with his policies Right. Especially on the economy, especially on the border security issue. So it's gonna be very interesting to see how is Kamala Harris, who was put in charge of the border and who was even more left than Joe on many of these issues, you know, from the economy to health care to, you know, to the climate, to environment and energy and all that stuff. She's more left than him. So how are they gonna try to, pivot her as a moderate?

Andy Singer:

Because what did if the Democrats have any chance of winning, they're gonna have to win over moderate voters. And, really, I think that what what they've done now is they've put forth a candidate, and I'm not even sure. I I I I do not think that can Kamala Harris is guaranteed to be the candidate right now. I think that Yeah. I

Donald Kendal:

wanna I wanna have that conversation because I I think that is, like, you know, kind of prepping for this, especially, well, let's just get into this part of it because afterwards, after Biden came out with his breakup letter via via Twitter, everyone's like, oh, wait. He didn't he didn't endorse Kamala Harris there. You know? That's interesting. And then, like, 20 minutes later, he put out another tweet saying, oh, I endorsed Kamala Kamala Harris.

Donald Kendal:

And then, like, a handful of other people came out saying, yeah. Yeah. She's great. We're gonna endorse her. So just, like, kinda quickly, the the news moved on from Biden dropping out.

Donald Kendal:

Kamala's our next, person, and she's great.

Andy Singer:

But that doesn't matter until the delegates make the final choice.

Donald Kendal:

I agreed. And I, again, I do wanna have that conversation. But I just want to, kind of talk about just the media's reception to this, and how then, like, kind of getting in line to just, like, boost her. They all of a sudden became like a a a booster club for Kamala Harris. So I just wanna, like, right off the bat, just kind of address this narrative that Democrats are excited for Kamala Harris.

Donald Kendal:

Like, I get it. They could be excited that they don't have to pretend to be excited for Joe Biden. Like, maybe that in itself is exciting. But, I mean, it just we know that Kamala Harris isn't popular. We know that.

Donald Kendal:

Right? I mean, she just ran for president 4 years ago. Wasn't that long ago. And she ended up from the race before the primaries even started. So and if you recall, that was one of those kind of a cluster of a race where there was, like, 25 people running.

Donald Kendal:

I think we even did a death pool for that. I remember, Jim. Hey. So if you wanna look at it in one way of all the people that stayed in the race and got votes and electoral votes and break it down by popular vote, This is who Kamala Harris lost to in the 2020 primaries. Okay?

Donald Kendal:

She lost to Joe Biden. She lost to Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard, Elizabeth Warren, Michael Bloomberg, Amy Klobuchar, Pete Buttigieg, Tom Steyer, Devil Patrick, Michael Bennett, Andrew Yang, John Delaney, Cory Booker, Marianne Williamson, Julian Castro, and Joe Sistiak. Okay? She lost to all of those people. At the end of the whole thing, she ended up getting 844 votes throughout the whole primary.

Donald Kendal:

So she is like the 25th most popular democrats. Nobody's excited for her. All of this, like, oh, we're so excited is just, like, because they don't have to do Joe Biden anymore or fake. So,

Andy Singer:

see, I I I I I'm coming at this from a different angle, I think. I I I'm looking at this through the context of what happened at the Republican National Convention. There were, I mean, I've been watching these national conventions and following politics for, you know, 25 years now, and I've never seen the Republican Party as unified as as it is right now. This is un this is unheard of territory for the Republican Party. The you know, for the past 25 years, the republican Republican party has been the one that's always had these, like, inner conflicts, establishment versus populism, blah blah blah blah blah.

Andy Singer:

It looks like the Republican party, and I think the assassination attempt on Trump actually helped coalesce that. Now we I I say we because I tend to vote Republican. The Republican party is, unified more than ever on a policy agenda and on many other, you know, things. The Democrats, on the other hand, are for the first time in, you know, my following of, politics are in disarray. And I think that what they what they realized was they had to stop the the that, you know, chaos as quickly as possible because I was watching CNN and MSNBC and following the stuff on the Internet and and all this stuff.

Andy Singer:

And you had so many different, you know, people wanting so many different things. And I think that they were saying, uh-oh. Well, what what what is the easiest way for us to just, you know, finally, like, pretend to unify? Well, next in line, Kamala Harris. You know?

Andy Singer:

And she, you know, I think is temporarily that that they are temporarily, coalescing around her, but I don't think that it's, like, I don't think that they truly think that Kamala Harris is the best candidate. I don't think they believe that her policies are the best policies. I don't think that they believe she would make the best commander in chief. But I think that what they're doing is they're saying we had to stop the bleeding and we need to stop all this internecine warfare. We need to stop all that immediately and and try to, you know, appear to the American public as, hey.

Andy Singer:

Don't worry. We're everything's all good here in the Democrat party. We're all on the same, you know, on the same page here, but, really, they're not. And I think that you're gonna start to see that as the polls start to come out and different elements of the def Democrat party. Different factions start to say, what are we doing?

Andy Singer:

We're gonna lose now even more than we would have had we stuck with Joe Biden. And once again, I go back to this has nothing to do with politics. It has nothing to do with the future of America or, you know, preserving this, you know, great nation for generations to come. It's about political power. And the Democrat party in particular I'm not saying the Republican party, it does not care about political power.

Andy Singer:

Of course, they do. But the Democrat party really cares about political power. I mean, that is, like, their their their entire reason for being. And, I mean, I've been I've noticed that for for years, how when a Republican candidate wins, my Democrat friends and family members go apoplectic. However, when Joe Biden wins, I'm just kinda like shrug it off.

Andy Singer:

Like, man, this is kind of, you know, not great, but it just goes to show how much, emphasis they put on government and the state and, you know, like, just the the, you know, federal, you know, bureaucracy and how much they entrusted and how about how afraid they are that someone like Donald Trump, who is an existential threat to the Washington establishment, how much they are afraid that he's gonna come in and make some real everlasting changes. And I think that that is what this is all about.

Donald Kendal:

Chris, so I will admit, coming into this episode, I was just kind of assuming that Kamala Harris is gonna be their candidate. I think you've already you've said a couple of things that made me, like, oh, maybe I shouldn't be quite as confident about that. But where exactly do you stand? Like, if you were putting money on it, are are you putting money that it's gonna be Kamala Harris, you know, come election time, or do you think something's gonna happen during the convention and somebody else is gonna come out on that ballot?

Andy Singer:

I mean, it's hard to predict. I think I think, you know, what the initial polls are showing is not good, and I think, you know, there's already some whispers that, hey. Well, at the very least, we've gotta get a really moderate guy on there to be her VP candidate, but I don't think people are gonna vote for that ticket based on who the VP candidate is. Yeah. The the but they're gonna vote on on Kamala Harris.

Andy Singer:

They're gonna vote because Kamala Harris is not only tied to the Biden policies, but her policies before Biden were even more radical. And you know what? There's videotape of all this stuff, and the Trump team and the Trump campaign is already putting forth ads that shows all this stuff.

Donald Kendal:

Mhmm.

Andy Singer:

So it's not like, hey, guys. Trust me on this. Kamala Harris wants to take away your private health care. She said it in a CNN town hall debate a couple years ago. Sure.

Andy Singer:

You know, whether it's that or just like all the, you know, crazy policies, that she's, you know, been, supporting over these past few years. And I also think that, yeah, right now, everyone's in a kumbaya moment on the Democrat side in the mainstream media because you know why? Kamala Harris is standing in front of a teleprompter and just saying the words on the screen. It's so easy for her to do that. But I've seen Kamala Harris in interviews, and I've seen Kamala Harris in debates, and that's when the real Kamala Harris comes out.

Andy Singer:

And once once she's on the debate stage with Donald Trump and once she is, you know, in front of voters having to ask, you know, answer questions and town halls and stuff like that, I think the American public is gonna get the real understanding of, wow, this woman is she has no business even being close to the presidency. Mhmm. And I actually think I mean, over kinda I'm going on a little bit of a tangent here. I think that the reason why Joe Biden picked her in the first place is because she was the best insurance policy for him. Because I think that he knew, and I I I strongly believe that.

Donald Kendal:

I've heard other people say this exact thing. Go ahead.

Andy Singer:

Yeah. That that that that he knew by picking her, it would be a, like, a, you know, an insurance policy for him to remain on the ticket even in, you know, 2024 because he the the the refrain would always be, you sure you want her to replace me?

Donald Kendal:

And I

Andy Singer:

think that, wow, somehow, some way that, you know, that that didn't work out for him. But I I I just I I don't think that Kamala Harris is a 100% going to be their candidate, you know, come to, national Democrat National Convention in Chicago in about a month.

Donald Kendal:

Okay. Not a 100%. I'm not gonna let you off the hook, though. Would you

Andy Singer:

still I'm I'm going 5050. I mean yeah. Okay. That's that's fine enough for me.

Donald Kendal:

Jim Jim, any comments on that? Is this, are we are we, assuming too quickly that she's gonna be the candidate focusing our time on talking about her policies, which we're gonna get to very soon?

Jim Lakely:

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And this is good.

Jim Lakely:

This will be the last we say we should say until we get into the policy stuff. But, you know, I think it's I was going to say a little less than 5050 that she'll even be, the nominee coming out of that convention in Chicago. And it is going to be a spectacular convention here in Chicago. There's gonna be chaos on the streets, and there's going to be chaos in the hall. It's, it's not something to be missed.

Jim Lakely:

I will not be going there, physically because I value my life and, and having all my bones not broken. But, like, even, again, the reason why she was put on the ticket, you know, that Biden was bumped aside and she was, you know, to grab the standard bear and run 4 is because she is allegedly more electable than Joe Biden against Donald Trump. Mind you, Biden kept insisting, I'm the only one who has beaten Trump. I'm the only one who can beat Trump in November, and the party decided that isn't true. But, you know, our friends at Rasmussen Reports, who we've done a lot of polling with over the last 12 months or so, and we have a lot of great, new polls that I don't know if we'll talk about them on this podcast, but should pretty soon.

Jim Lakely:

They just released a poll today, national poll, preference either Donald Trump or Kamala Harris for president. Trump is leading 50 to 43, 7 points. That's a big gap in a supposedly 5050 country. MSNBC, held a focus group of Wisconsin women voters the other day, and their viewers must have been horrified by what they heard that focus group, say to the MSNBC person, and we have a clip of that will show in a few in a little while. Kamala Harris is was listed by the gov track website as the most liberal senator of them all.

Jim Lakely:

That is not an easy thing to pull off, but she managed to do it. And she also missed, I think, 62% of all the votes in the senate while she was a senator, which I believe also led all of, all of the senators all of the 100 senators in the United States. Her White House staff, when this tracks with the way here it was when she was a senator, has a 92% turnover rate, which again is pretty remarkable even in a town where bosses notoriously treat all of their staff like garbage. And then yesterday, in one of her only public speaking events, as vice president and then also the presumptive Democratic nominee, She lauded America's vital allyship with North Korea instead of South Korea.

Andy Singer:

So,

Jim Lakely:

no, I don't think it's actually a done deal that she's the nominee. I think she and and she says she claims that she doesn't want it handed to her. She wants to earn it. If that's the case, what she's doing so far to earn it is not really, is fall falling pretty flat. And I think, if and if the Democrats really are, you know, we have to save democracy to keep Trump out of the White House, they could very well decide in a couple of weeks at the at the convention here in Chicago for the Democratic National Convention that she's not gonna she's not gonna be able to beat Trump either, and they may have to pull a third emergency parachute to get so they don't crash into the ground.

Jim Lakely:

We will we will see. But I think it's a little less than a 5050 chance, that that she'll be pulled and that they'll go to somebody else because, really, who else is there?

Donald Kendal:

Right. Right. Yeah. The, the the gov the gov track thing, I wanted to bring that up. You mentioned it.

Donald Kendal:

So gov is that what it's called? Gov track?

Jim Lakely:

Gov track. Yes. And they wiped it. They erased it from their website.

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. So they apparently, what they what they part of the things that they do, they're like some nonpartisan nonprofit group or something like that. One of the things that they would do is they would go through and, like, rank, different sitting senators, based on their kind of political leanings or something like that. And in 2019 their voting record

Jim Lakely:

their voting record, what they voted for.

Donald Kendal:

Right. And in 2019, Kamala Harris, Govthrack, came out and said that she was the most liberal sitting senator. Out of all 100 of them, she was the most and for whatever reason, after everyone's coalescing with Kamala Harris and saying she's so great. Oh, man. She's so good.

Donald Kendal:

They deleted that. They tried to quietly delete that. So that's that's kind of interesting, especially considering that Biden was largely selected, in 2020 to be the candidate because he was seen as being a little bit more moderate than the Elizabeth Warren's and the Bernie Sanders that he was running against. So I find that to be pretty interesting.

Andy Singer:

But but but but, I mean, that's just that's just a, you know, tip of the iceberg. The mainstream media has also tried to come out and say she was never, declared border czar. So, I mean, come on. This is just this is gonna happen. The mainstream media is gonna do everything they can to try to make it look like she is, you know, the second coming.

Andy Singer:

You know, I've already been I've even heard some of them say this reminds me of 2008 with Barack Obama and all this stuff. I mean, seriously, like, they're they're getting chills, you know, down their down their leg again. No. No. No.

Andy Singer:

No. Matthews. Right? You know?

Jim Lakely:

It's not going to work. It's not going

Andy Singer:

to work. Exactly. It's not gonna work. It's not gonna work.

Jim Lakely:

People are awake now. They are awake to what's happening. Yeah.

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. I mean, so, you know, we could we could probably spend another hour just playing clips of her messing up in speeches and saying, you know, the idea that we have an alliance with North Korea or remember that one time when she was, like, talking about climate change, and she said how we need to reduce population. We all know that she probably meant to say pollution, but whatever. A little Freudian slip there. Or, you know, her, like, really just great speeches about space and, you know, her explanations about how Russia's a big country and Ukraine's a smaller country or her, like, her great speech about artificial intelligence or AI.

Donald Kendal:

It's it's two letters. One set one's artificial. The other one's intelligence. So, like, we could play a million of those clips, but we're not because it save you people from having to listen to her unnecessarily. But when people do see her speak, their reactions are very much like ours.

Donald Kendal:

They're they're kind of questioning her grasp on some of these issues and stuff. So, Jim, you mentioned I haven't seen this clip, but you mentioned, going to a, what is this? Like a like a like a test group trying to a viewing group or whatever what is whatever it's called?

Jim Lakely:

A a focus group of Wisconsin women voters. Yes.

Donald Kendal:

Alright. So let's go ahead and play this. So this is after they had, like, listened to her speech or or something like that, and then they went back and asked these people in this focus group, what do you think about Kamala Harris?

Interviewer:

How do you perceive vice president Harris compared to president Biden in terms of competency and experience?

Focus Group:

I think she's worse. She doesn't even know what's going on at the border.

Andy Singer:

Right.

Focus Group:

And and that's what she She was supposed to be doing. Doing and then charge on? I mean, as a school teacher, if I did not do what I was supposed to be doing

Andy Singer:

k.

Focus Group:

You better believe my job would be in jeopardy. Well, it isn't. It not only was her job not in jeopardy, she was just handed a promotion.

Interviewer:

Is there anyone that Kamala Harris could appoint as her vice president that you would find reassuring? Would make you consider voting for her? No. Oh. No.

Interviewer:

No. Never considered voting for her. No. I would know RF junior way before that.

Focus Group:

Yeah. Yeah.

Interviewer:

Same. Absolutely. Yeah. And she's not the first woman to run for Hillary Clinton. I'm assuming no one voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Interviewer:

So it's not necessarily gonna sway you to vote for a woman in office. When do you think America will have a female president? When there's a competent one? Just

Andy Singer:

I I

Interviewer:

don't get a good feel for her.

Focus Group:

I think she's an idiot.

Interviewer:

Right. Mary, why do you think that she's not that bright?

Focus Group:

Because she hasn't done anything in the the time that she's had. We don't know anything about her as far as her 3 years so far in the White House. She's not real smart.

Donald Kendal:

Why why do you think she's not that bright? No. No. No. I didn't say she wasn't bright.

Donald Kendal:

I said she was an idiot.

Andy Singer:

Yeah. But but you you you know you know what's so telling from that is that this that MSNBC reporter was trying to make it all about personality, and that's what the media is trying to do. They're trying to make this all about Donald Trump. But you know what? The American people are gonna make this about policy.

Andy Singer:

I strongly believe that This election, unlike some of our past elections, is gonna be about policy. Because right now, the American people are suffering immensely, whether it's the economy, the border, afraid of, you know, foreign conflicts and, you know, American weakness abroad, you know, violent crime in the cities, especially. I mean, there's a whole bunch of issues that are really, I think, JD Vance's strength, and they're gonna really and, JD Vance's strength, and they're gonna really, you know, pull Kamala Harris and whoever she if she is, you know, the candidate and whoever else she, you know, plans to run with, because they can't run on that record because because they are the ones. And Kamala Harris, I mean, she's really stuck here. How can she say, hey.

Andy Singer:

Wait a second. I was put in charge of the border, but all the border stuff has nothing to do with me. Or, hey. You know, the the the the entire Biden presidency and all the, spending, which I have been, you know, you know, in in full favor of, I I'm I'm just gonna walk away from that now. She can't do that.

Andy Singer:

So if anything, I think, you know, if she's gonna go even more left, she's just gonna double down and say, we didn't do enough. And, I mean, if she goes down that road, wow, I think it's gonna just be a total meltdown for her. But I really I really think that this is going to be a, an election that is gonna be mostly about policy. And Joe Joe, Biden last night said that he truly feels that the, the country's at an inflection point, and the next administration is gonna set up the the course of this nation for the next 40 years. I believe that too.

Andy Singer:

So I think that really right now, the the American people are saying, hey. Wait a second. We had 4 years of Trump. We've had 4 years of Biden Harris. And that is a, you know, a a a very rare opportunity for voters to have, you know, the the track record of, you know, both candidates before them.

Andy Singer:

And I think that they're gonna say, you know, you know, aside from all the the the the Trump tweets and then and and all that kind of stuff, the bottom line is I was better off under Trump. And that's why I think I think this is really just gonna boil down to, do you like you know, Reagan said, are you better off today than you were 4 years ago? And the answer to that is just very simple.

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. No kidding. It's kinda it's kind of interesting. It's like, it's like harder for her to take credit for the things that Biden was taking credit for, but it's also harder for her to distance from the bad stuff because she was also part of the administration. She almost gets, like, worst of both worlds.

Donald Kendal:

But

Jim Lakely:

Right. I mean, what is she gonna take credit for? The the the wonderful economy that is way better than it was under Trump? I mean, that's false. Everybody knows it.

Jim Lakely:

Doesn't matter what the media tells you. People feel it. They know how much they're paying at the grocery store as they go every week or more often than that. They know that it costs 5 times, 6 times as much to get us enough milk for their kids, than it did just 4 years ago. I mean, you can't you can't no amount of media gaslighting is gonna make those kind of feelings and and knowledge among the American voters go away.

Jim Lakely:

So I think Trump or, I think Chris is actually right that maybe the 2016 election when Trump beat Hillary was kind of a personality based election, you know, to a to a larger extent certainly than now. This will be a policy based election. This are this this will be voters looking at what the policies of the Biden administration have done to their own pocketbooks, to society, to our economy, to our political life, and then compare that to what they experienced for the 4 years previous to that. Mhmm. And I think no matter how much I know the the big messaging and and Joe Biden said it again last night that democracy is on the ballot and that democracy our democracy is over if Trump is elected president.

Jim Lakely:

Again, that's a a harder sell because he was president for 4 years. He did not act as a dictator. Our democracy was not crushed and ruined, and it certainly wasn't saved just because, Joe Biden narrowly won election in 2020. So I think as time goes on and people can focus on the new thing, which is now Kamala Harris, those kinds of messaging that that, Donald Trump poses some sort of existential threat to democracy itself and as do all of his supporters, half this damn country, pose a pose a threat to democracy itself. I don't think that that message is going to resonate with swing voters.

Jim Lakely:

I think it doesn't. And I think the polling, just as Rasmussen put out today, Trump leading 50 to 43, I think those that messaging that messaging, which is being pounded and pounded by the media constantly, is not having the effect, and and that's why they panicked, and that's why they got rid of, Joe Biden in the first place.

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. You know, I so I let let's let's spend the rest of the time talking about the policies because this is this is the thing. This is probably the most important thing about all of this. The like I said, in 2020, there was a concerted effort by a lot of the kind of mainstream Democrats to kind of, push Joe Biden forward because he seems more moderate. He's likely to get more, kind of middle of the road independent votes or whatever, you know, come general election time.

Donald Kendal:

We need to force Bernie Sanders out because he's just kind of a radical leftist, and we gotta get Joe Biden in there. And, Kamala Harris is far more towards the Bernie Sanders side than the middle of the road, you know, whatever moderate Joe Biden that we were, you know, promised, all those years ago. And, you know, we already talked about that gov track thing. She was, you know, deemed to be the most liberal of the sitting senators, which is a feat that in 2019 that was that's quite an accomplishment by, Kamala Harris here. But, so here here's some of the things that she stands for or that she supported, you know, over the years.

Donald Kendal:

The green new deal. So this was AOC's biggest thing, her claim to fame, the green new deal. I think most people listening to this are pretty aware of what the green new deal was. You might not be though because in addition to it trying to decarbonize the entire economy, you know, within, like, 10 years, get rid of all fossil fuels, transition to just wind and solar, all of that within 10 years. That's what people remember.

Donald Kendal:

But there is all these other bits and pieces to it, that, what was was it AOC's, like, secretary of staff or something? Oh,

Andy Singer:

it's it's a how do you change the entire economy thing?

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. Exactly. It's not a it's not a fixing the environment thing. It's a how to change the entire economy thing because the green new deal also included massive new infrastructure plan, including a nationwide network of high speed rails, universal basic income programs, because remember, those people that are unable and unwilling to work, they need money too. Right?

Donald Kendal:

So, universal basic income program, a government jobs guarantee, upgrading all existing buildings, in the United States with, you know, like renewable stuff or efficiency, insulation, that sort of stuff. The creation of public banks, rebuilding the electric grid, trillions of wind and solar development, and the transformation of the US agriculture system. And, you know, basically, in the FAQ that was released alongside the the original plan. Remember they had all that talk about getting rid of cows because of their methane emissions and all of that. So Kamala Harris was one of, what, 14 people that, that were, like, endorse endorsing this, the Green New Deal.

Donald Kendal:

So that is something that she has to wear very proudly around her neck when she's, running for president, that she was in favor of the most, probably the most radical, most socialist, aligned legislation that's been proposed probably in the last century. I don't know. I mean, Jim, I know they're probably gonna talk about some of this in the climate realism show tomorrow at noon CST on all of these same stations. But, I mean, that that's a big one. Right?

Donald Kendal:

Her supported the Green New Deal.

Jim Lakely:

Well, yeah. In fact, Biden last night, as I watched that, he's he took credit. You know, it's kind of his validatory or, you know, his his send off speech and where he could brag about it, all he's accomplished in for in just three and a half years and all of that. And he mentioned, specifically, we passed the largest climate change, fighting climate change bill in history. And as as were as those words crossed my ears, I was like, but you didn't call it the Green New Deal or the Save the Planet, Act of 2023.

Jim Lakely:

You called it the Inflation Reduction Act. So even your what you you consider your most grand accomplishment was sold and and sold to the American people as a lie that it had nothing to do with inflation whatsoever, had nothing to do with us recovering from COVID and all of that other stuff. But, yeah, Kamala Harris, I think, you know, is a is a radical leftist. She is an she's an out, and proud radical leftist person. You know?

Jim Lakely:

I mean, she her record as as noted before, even, while the gov track website has tried to make it disappear, like like, Stalin's people erasing people from photographs that are no longer convenient and that they sent to the gulag. There are still clips out there of Nora O'Donnell doing an interview with her on 60 minutes pointing out that gov track calls you the most liberal senator, in the United States, and they had to talk about that. So that's being circulated. So, you know, this attempt at newspeak and censorship is not going to work. Thank you, Elon Musk, for making sure that, that the American people can speak the truth and know the truth, including the truth about Kamala Harris's record.

Jim Lakely:

And I know we have a clip, that we can play so that it doesn't go down the memory hole of just how radical she is just on the climate.

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. Yeah. I do. I yes. I I wanna mention that because, hey, maybe she's just, supporting the green new deal because, you know, she wants, you know, universal health care or something like that.

Donald Kendal:

Like, nope. She is a climate alarmist to a crazy degree. So my one of my favorite CNN specials was the 7 hour long climate change town hall event. Yeah. We covered that.

Donald Kendal:

Like, yeah, 15 of the different candidates coming in that were all running in 2020, and they were asked a whole host of crazy questions. And, one of them was somebody asking Kamala Harris about, red meat consumption. So let's go ahead and play this clip. It's only like a minute and a half long or like that, but, it's kind of telling as to her views about, climate change and what we need to do about it. So let's go ahead and play that if we have that one queued up.

interviewer:

But now more questions for senator Kamala Harris. So let's go straight to an audience question now. Carolyn Corson is a lawyer from New York, senator. She has a question about the impact of certain foods on the environment. Just to give some context here, the United Nations says that cattle, livestock cattle, contribute 14 a half percent of all human produced greenhouse gases, which is an incredible number.

interviewer:

Caroline, go ahead with your question.

Interviewer:

Mhmm. Thank

Focus Group:

you. Climate change has been linked to, to agriculture and the over conception of red meat, and also the overproduction of crops. Certain countries have changed their dietary guidelines, to reduce the consumption of red meat, in light of the impact of of the climate change. Yeah. If elected, are you will you be supporting, change, in dietary guidelines?

Focus Group:

And then how will you plan on implementing the changes so that people effectively change the diets?

Focus Group:

Yeah. I mean, it's and thank you Carol for your work and the question. There is I I think of the the point that you're raising in the in in a broader context, which is that as a nation, we actually have to have a real priority at the highest level of government around what we eat and in terms of healthy eating because we have a problem in America. And we can talk about all that we are now the subject of this conversation, we can talk about, the amount of sugar in everything. We can talk we could talk about soda.

Focus Group:

We could go on and on. So the answer is yes. But I'll also say this. We the the balance that we have to strike here, frankly, is about what government can and should do around creating incentives and then banning certain behaviors. I mean, just to be very honest with you, I love cheeseburgers from time to time.

Focus Group:

Right? I mean, I I I just do. And and I think that, but there is but there has to be also what we do in terms of creating incentives that we will eat in a healthy way, that we will encourage moderation, and that we will be educated about the effect of our eating habits on our environment. And we have to do a much better job of that, and the government has to do a much better job of that. We have Yeah.

interviewer:

So, I mean, I'm just saying you love cheeseburgers. I mean, we all do. I don't know

Jim Lakely:

whether You

interviewer:

know from time to time. Try the Beyond Burger, the Impossible Burger. Right? They try, but it's it's not quite the same. That's my personal opinion.

interviewer:

But would you support changing the dietary guidelines?

Interviewer:

The the Yes.

interviewer:

You know, the food pyramid. What would people Yes. Yes. To reduce red meat specifically.

Focus Group:

Yes. I would. And I'll I'll tell you I've So

Donald Kendal:

to me, this is a very telling clip, because it's about changing the dietary guidelines, not based on any dietary needs. I mean, she talked about large sugary drinks. If I recall the little food pyramid, you know, sugary things is that very small triangle at the very top of the food pyramid. She's talking about changing the dietary guidelines based specifically on their perceived impact on the climate. And then she says, and then we have to figure that out and then ban things accordingly.

Donald Kendal:

So that that to me shows that she is willing to, you know, make crazy concessions and changes in government mandates based on, you know, the the climate alarmist narrative. It shows like you're gonna say something.

Andy Singer:

Yeah. Yeah. It it shows her philosophy that the government knows best, And it is the antithesis of our philosophy, which is no. Actually, people know best. So she wants the government to determine your your, you know, dietary guidelines.

Andy Singer:

Are you kidding me? Perfect. I mean, it it's just this is this is so outside of what the government should be involved in right now. I can't even believe that she took that question seriously. But it it is it is so it is so symbolic of Kamala Harris is an elite from, you know, a coastal elite who thinks that she knows better, and she's also a total hypocrite.

Andy Singer:

Because I could name 20 times over the past couple of years in which she has, you know, said something, but then done the opposite. Like she said, she's all for these, you know, these electric ovens, but then photos emerged that she has, a gas stovetop. So so, I mean yeah. No. But that that's just one of so many examples.

Andy Singer:

So that's why I think that, the American people don't trust her. They don't believe her. They don't think she honestly believes in this stuff. I also I also I I I bet that Kamala Harris does not even have a guiding, you know, set of principles, that that, you know, encapsulates, how how she plans to govern. I think that she is the consummate politician and the the the worst, you know, example of it by saying, where is the political winds blowing these days?

Andy Singer:

Okay. There. I'll go down there. Because when she was attorney general of, California back in the day, she was actually pretty tough on crime and pretty tough on, on on drug crime. But then when she realized, oh, wait a second.

Andy Singer:

The people of California, the people across America don't really like that anymore, at least in the Democrat party. Well, now I'm going to the total opposite. And now she's you know, defund the police and all that stuff. So this is just part and parcel for Kamala Harris, who is not a principal person who has, deeply embedded views that she's thought about for, you know, decades like Donald Trump actually has. Donald Trump for since 19 eighties has been talking about globalization and whether that's good or bad for the brass bell and all this stuff.

Andy Singer:

You can agree or disagree with him, but at least he has those heartfelt beliefs. Mhmm. And I think that people can see through this, that Kamala Harris is the just ultimate politician trying to say, what do the voters want me to say in this in this exact instance? Okay. I'll say that for this audience.

Andy Singer:

But Donald Trump is a total opposite. He just says what he thinks, and people respect that.

Focus Group:

I think she's an idiot.

Donald Kendal:

Jim, there's a couple other things I wanna get into, but comments on just her, you know, beliefs when it comes to that clip, specifically climate change in general.

Jim Lakely:

Well, I mean, I I was struck by no matter what crazy thing that person, that climate alarmist activist said, whatever came out of her mouth, Kamala Harris was gonna be nodding her head the entire time.

Donald Kendal:

Oh, yeah.

Jim Lakely:

And she did say something nutty, like, you know, we should, you know, reduce the consumption of red meat to save the planet. And then Kamala Harris' immediate reaction is to agree with that and then say specifically, we need to start thinking it seriously about banning certain things, while also admitting that she likes a cheeseburger. The fact that Kamala Harris likes cheeseburgers is literally the only thing about her political life that has ever come out of her mouth that that I can remotely relate to. Right. I liked it a little bit more than just time to time, but, that's that's my own vice.

Jim Lakely:

But, yeah, I mean, sometimes I wonder if she has deeply held left wing convictions, which I think she does. And I think there's also a part of her that is she's just a vessel for whatever nut nutty idea from the left that happens to, you know, you know, to float down the stream. She will fish it out and put it in her basket. And just one last thing before we get to some of the other clips and other policies, that are very radical that Kamala Harris has either implemented herself or hardly endorsed is the fact and I mentioned it before. She has a 92% turnover rate among her staff.

Jim Lakely:

The The New York Times and The Washington Post have run stories sympathetic to Kamala Harris with the spin basically that her staff and people around her keep failing her, keep setting her up for failure instead of setting her up for success. But Kamala Harris also notoriously ignores the information in the briefing books that her staff prepares for her. So she will complain about looking like an idiot in a public appearance while speaking while trying to speak about policy, but it's her own fault because she doesn't read the briefing books that her staff prepares for her so that she could come across sounding like she knows what she's talking about.

Andy Singer:

Mhmm.

Jim Lakely:

And so I don't think those kinds of habits are going to change just because she's running for president, And so we're going to see her nodding her head no matter what crazy left wing, words are coming out of the mouth of some town hall attendee, and, she'll also just be endorsing all of the radical left policies that the, that the people around her and, frankly, what is now the base of the Democrat party want.

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. Yeah. Chris brought up, some of her, like, kind of historical record when she was in, California or whatever. And I was gonna skip over this because I thought there was a better segue earlier in the show. But just to make Andy, our producer, happy, I wanna show this clip of her and and Tulsi Gabbard during the debate one of the debates for the primaries in 2020.

Donald Kendal:

This is the clip that effectively ended or at least this was being hailed as the as the moment that effectively ended Kamala Harris' chances during that primary. So let's go ahead and play this this clip of Tulsi just absolutely skewering Kamala Harris.

Debate moderator:

Congresswoman Gabbard, you took issue with senator Harris confronting vice president Biden at the last debate. You called it a, quote, false accusation that Joe Biden is a racist. What's your response?

Tulsi Gabbard:

I wanna bring the conversation back to the broken criminal justice system that is disproportionately, negatively impacting black and brown people all across this country today. Now senator Harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor and that she'll be a prosecutor president, but I'm deeply concerned about this record. There are too many examples to cite, but she put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when

Andy Singer:

she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana.

Tulsi Gabbard:

She blocked evidence she blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so. She kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California, and she fought to keep past bail system in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way.

Debate moderator:

Thank you, congresswoman. Senator Harris, your response.

Focus Group:

As the elected attorney general of California, I did the work of significantly reforming the criminal justice system of a state of 40,000,000 people, which became a national model for the work that needs to be done. And I am proud of that work. And I am proud of making a decision to not just give fancy speeches or be in a legislative body and give speeches on the floor, but actually doing the work of being in the position to use the power that I had to reform a system that is badly in need of reform. That is why we created initiatives that were about reentering former offenders and getting them counseling. It is why and because I know that criminal justice system is so broken that I am an advocate for what we need

Andy Singer:

to do to

Focus Group:

not only decriminalize, but legalize marijuana in the United States.

Debate moderator:

I wanna I wanna bring, congresswoman, Gabbard back in. Your response

Tulsi Gabbard:

The bottom line is, senator Harris, when you were in a position to make a difference and an impact in these people's lives, You did not. And worse yet, in the case of those who were on death row, innocent people, you actually blocked evidence from being revealed that would have freed them until you were forced to do so. There is no excuse for that, and the people who suffered under your reign as prosecutor, oh, you owe them an apology.

Donald Kendal:

That could be that could be a campaign ad for Donald Trump against Kamala Harris. Now a little bit more of context of that because I this kind of occurred to me when I was watching that clip. Tulsi Gabbard, that was, like, one of her moments to shine during that, and she tried to clip that out and advertise that, on social media and all of that through Google and all everything. And Google denied it. They stopped her from being able to promote that.

Donald Kendal:

And What? What? After a couple of after a couple of days of appeal, Google finally came out and thought, oh, you're right. We shouldn't have stopped you for being able to run that ad. It's actually fine or whatever.

Andy Singer:

But Too late.

Donald Kendal:

Too late. The momentum was gone, and and the whole thing floundered or whatever.

Jim Lakely:

You know? How the system is rigged. That's how it works. Go ahead, Chris. Sorry.

Andy Singer:

I was gonna say, you know what I find most interesting about that clip is that Kamala Harris, you know, was saying that she, defended, cash bail when she was a prosecutor. But then once that that clip came forward and this whole ridiculous end end cash bail, you know, movement began. Who was the first to jump on board of that? Kamala Harris. And who was the one who did it in Minneapolis?

Andy Singer:

And there have been examples of people that she bailed out who went and committed murder after the fact. Right. So Kamala Harris is it is an utter hypocrite. And once again, that just goes back to my original, contention that she just does whatever is feasible at the time. You know, Kamala Harris, I think, does not have a, you know, a a, you know, a guiding, you know, set of principles because she just only goes on, oh, what's what's the trendy thing to do now?

Andy Singer:

Oh, okay. I'll do that. Yeah. And I and I really think that her defund the police, you know, line is gonna really bite her in the end because the American people are really sick and tired of this violence that's, you know, upending our cities, and they're also gonna attribute it to Kamala Harris, the border czar. And, yes, she is and was the border czar.

Andy Singer:

And the fact that she was the one who let this open border, you know, catastrophe occur, and that is having a humongous, disparate impact in urban areas across this country and in Chicago, Illinois of all. You know? There are people now who are being killed by illegal immigrants who have should not be here, should never have come here, should be deported immediately. And what does she do? She defends them.

Jim Lakely:

Yeah. You're not gonna see Donald Trump or Republicans go after Kamala Harris from the left on crime, which is basically what Tulsi Gabbard did, you know, by and large in that thing. I don't think most Republicans are gonna be in support of, no cash bail because they can see what's happened in this country. After the George Floyd Floyd riots, for which, by the way, Kamala Harris set up a bail fund to make sure that those rioters and criminals could get back out on the street. At least one of them, and I'm I'm sure more than that, committed murders after getting out of jail.

Jim Lakely:

Thanks to Kamala Harris's, you know, get out of jail free card, fund for, for the BLM and Antifa riots. But, it my memory of that guys, and and I haven't looked it up. That was the that was the high watermark for Kamala Harris, because I believe before that debate, she was bragging that she was a, quote, unquote, top tier candidate. Right. And Tulsi Gabbard said, okay then.

Jim Lakely:

I'll treat you like 1, and I'll go after you. I believe she pulled out of the race. That was before the Iowa caucuses. That might have been the last debate or second to last debate she ever did, and she must have pulled out of the race shortly after that because I do remember, it was just 4 years ago that the, people were like, holy crap. Kamala Harris just got nuked.

Andy Singer:

And she's right.

Jim Lakely:

Finished. And I believe that was the end of her pretty much the end of her campaign, and it was basically one question from a lower tier candidate like Tulsi Gabbard who had the, who had the courage to tell the truth.

Donald Kendal:

Mhmm. Yep. So in addition to in addition to the green new deal, which had a, you know, universal health care provision in it, senator Kamala Harris also, promoted her own or proposed her own Medicare for all plan that would have basically everybody from birth put into this plan and, you know, some other different, like, carve out interesting things. Justin Haskins wrote an article. I'm not sure if it's published yet, but he talks all about her Medicare for all plan that she proposed, just, you know, however many years ago, 4 or 5 years ago.

Donald Kendal:

But in in questioning about her plan, she had there there are some interesting things that came out. We have another clip. Let's go ahead and play this one. This is from CNN of all places, asking her about her Medicare for all plan. If we have that clip ready, let's go ahead and play that, please.

Debate moderator:

The bill also says, quote, every individual who is a resident of the United States is entitled to benefits for health care services under this act. Not every individual who's a citizen, but every individual who's a resident.

Joe Biden:

Mhmm.

Debate moderator:

So you support giving universal health care, Medicare for all to people who are in this country illegally?

Focus Group:

Let me just be very clear about this. I am opposed to any policy that would deny in our country any human being from access to public safety, public education, or public health, period.

Donald Kendal:

So the answer is yes. She was very clear. The answer was yes. Her universal health care plan would also include giving free health care to, illegals. So, that's that's the this is what we're going from.

Donald Kendal:

We're going from the supposed down the middle of the road lunch pail, Joe from Scranton, Pennsylvania. You know, your old your old your dad's a democrat to a radical leftist senator from California. So, Chris, final words on any of this, any other policy things that she stands for that I'm neglecting? We're 11 minutes late already, so feel free to take as much

Andy Singer:

time as you want. Well, I'm gonna say this, and I know that it's a very taboo thing to say, but guess what? Kamal Harris is, a fan of the great replacement theory. And you know what that is? That is, saying that we wanna let in as many illegal immigrants into this country to change the voting demographic of this country.

Andy Singer:

And that is what Kamala Harris is in favor of so that they can create an underclass of extremely poor people who just depend on government and who get as much as they can from government, and they will continually to vote for the Democrat machine. I think that that is a recipe for disaster for the United States of America. That is why I oppose the Democrat platform in its current case. This is a far cry from the, you know, Clinton Democrat that I, you know, grew up. You know, I wasn't, a Democrat, but I grew up, like, thinking, wow.

Andy Singer:

Okay. Bill Clinton. He wants to balance the budget. He wants to get people to working, not not not on well fair. That'll make total sense.

Andy Singer:

And, you know, in in in 20 something, 30 something years, it's just become the complete opposite where you've got one party, and I know I'm breaking style and making this very black and white and, you know, very, you know, like, stark. But you've got one party who's saying, hi, American people. If you wanna work hard, we're gonna reduce your taxes. We're gonna try to reduce prices and make your life as, you know, enjoyable as possible. We're not gonna, you know, try to micromanage you on a daily basis.

Andy Singer:

We're not gonna tell you what kind of car drive, what kind of gas stove to have, blah blah blah blah blah. Then you got another party that's saying, American people, we wanna, you know, control you to the hilt. We We wanna tell you what kind of car to drive, what kind of, you know, air conditioning unit that you're gonna have, what kind just everything. Kamal Harris is in that boat. I'm not in that boat.

Andy Singer:

So I hope that the American people overall and American citizens, I should say, vote for the the opposite of that. That's what I hope for. But then again, I'm also kind of worried that, you know, we've had about 20,000,000 illegal immigrants, coming to this country under the Biden Harris administration, and, I'm concerned that many of them are gonna vote. And what is that gonna do to the outcome of this election? I guess we'll find out.

Donald Kendal:

We will. Jim, final thoughts. What do you think? Is are we, are are we jumping the gun thinking that she's gonna be the candidate? Is she gonna be the candidate?

Donald Kendal:

What wrap it up however way you want.

Jim Lakely:

Yeah. I'll just say briefly, you know, the idea that, noncitizens are denied health care in the United States is false. You know, you go to an emergency room in the United States, and they will treat you, period. That's period. That's the end of that.

Jim Lakely:

But as she, as as Chris was talking, I actually wanted to look this up. The the left and liberals and democrats in this country ever since Obama was elected president wanted to institute a national health care service like the NHS in the United Kingdom. And if you are not a citizen of Great Britain, guess what happens when you try to have access to health care? You are denied or if you want to, you can get that care. You will just have to pay a 150% of what the going rate for any of those services happen to be.

Jim Lakely:

So when the UK is always held up by the left as kind of the example that the United States should follow, and then, you know, Kamala Harris says that illegal immigrants, people who are not here legally, people who are not citizens in this country, everybody should get health care anyway. That is even more radical left and, than than what happens in the UK. So, that's even putting aside the immigration, stuff in the UK. But but yeah. So so we will be talking about this for as long as as Kamala is the as long as Kamala Harris is the candidate, we will take this podcast time to examine the radical left wing policies that that she advocates for and that the mainstream media has not been reporting on.

Jim Lakely:

And in fact, you had mentioned this. This is the last thing I'll say, Andy, so you can go ahead and start the outro music, but the, you talked about the coverage that Kamala Harris has gotten since she, was tapped as the candidate for the Democrat party. There were 10 stories in The Washington Post about Kamala Harris, on Monday. 3 of them were in the style section, all of them glowing, of course, and not a single of the other, quote, unquote, news stories did any examination of what her legislative record is, what she has said on the record about policy. It was all glowing, propaganda coverage, and so you're gonna continue to see that in the in the, corrupt legacy media, and you have to come to podcasts like this to get the truth.

Donald Kendal:

That is absolutely right. Addressing one question I saw in the chat a while ago asking about the price tag of the green new deal. There was a calculation done by the American action forum, I think it was, that but the price tag is high as $94,000,000,000,000, which, that was pre Bidenflation too. So it's probably closer to a 120,000,000,000,000 at this point.

Andy Singer:

Oh, that's a bargain.

Donald Kendal:

But,

Jim Lakely:

hold hold on. Let me let me just say something. So we have people in the comments saying that, I was incorrect about, you having to pay in the UK a 150%. If you're not a citizen, they say they don't check out it anymore and that, anyone from anywhere is an international health service stuff. So okay.

Jim Lakely:

Staying correct.

Donald Kendal:

Fact check. Fact check. Fact check. Alright. So before we sign off, I will say this is a high watermark of the amount of people that are watching us live across YouTube and Twitter and Rumble and x and all that.

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Donald Kendal:

Fantastic. Chris Talgo, what do you have to pitch today?

Andy Singer:

Well, I hope everybody goes to harland.org and looks at these polls that we just conducted with Rasmussen Reports because there's a bunch of them, and they are very interesting. And I think they're gonna be very telling of what's gonna happen come November 5th.

Donald Kendal:

Absolutely. And special thanks to Andy in the background doing our production work. But, thank you all for tuning in to this episode, and we will talk to you next week.

Focus Group:

We did it. We did it, Joe.

Joe Biden:

He's a lion dog faced pony soldier.