The Resistbot Podcast

Revisiting the ongoing war in Ukraine, shining a light on the genocide in Tigray, and how to support your neighbors in need.

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✊🤖 Welcome to Episode 25 where we revisit the ongoing war in Ukraine and put a spotlight on a similar crisis happening in Tigray. Listen along as we discuss the harsh realities of what our Ukrainian and Tigrayan neighbors are facing, the dangers of misinformation, and how to support our neighbors in need with our panelists and special guest Vitali Dorosh. This podcast is broadcast live every Sunday on Youtube; please subscribe!

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This Week's Panel
  • 0:00 Intro
  • 0:56 Melanie Introduces the Show
  • 2:16  Introducing the Panel
  • 2:23 Susan Stutz
  • 4:44 Christine Lu
  • 8:02 Interview with Vitali Dorosh
  • 17:07 How to Support our Ukraine Neighbors
  • 17:28 Misinformation and the war
  • 21:24 How the war is impacting supply chains
  • 26:34 Open Letters and Petitions
  • 29:20 Tigray Open Letters
  • 31:17 Current state of China’s Covid Lockdown
  • 34:43 Panelists Closings
  • 36:34  Monthly Donors
  • 36:57 Closings
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On February 24th.

Russia invaded Ukraine
it's neighbor to the west.

Just this week.

United States, president Joseph
Biden called Russia's actions.


Last year.

And last spring, we began hearing reports
of the Tigray region in Ethiopia, where

it was sounding an alarm that ethnic
cleansing was taking place between

Eritrea and the Amhara people where
they are saying that their culture is

at risk of being completely erased.

So we're going to talk about
is how the similarities and how

we, as everyday people can help.

And of course, I am going to
bring up my all girl band we'll

first start with Susan Stutz.

Susan: Hi there everyone.

How are you, Mel?

Melanie: Doing great.

How are you?

Susan: I'm doing good.

No complaints.

Melanie: So we are going to be talking
about Tigray uh, this weekend Ukraine.

I think these are both topics.

That war is a monster when
we can put it like that.

So just trying to grasp these topics
in an understandable way, as people who

don't really live through that experience,
that end of things is hard enough,

but watching it happen in real time.

And also seeing that, even though
this is in the news, this is

happening in a lot of places.

Susan: And we have a history of, the
world has been built on these conflicts.

And I think one of the things that
was important for me was recognizing

that I don't have to understand.

All the history.

I don't necessarily understand,
need to understand how we got here.

I just need to know that I can
help if I can do something to help.

Then you know, that would be
my role in this because I don't

know a lot about foreign policy.

I don't know the history of the
Ukraine and Russia and Tigrey but,

that doesn't mean that we can't help.

It doesn't mean that we can't highlight
it and put a spotlight on it and,

bring it to other people's attention to

Melanie: And sometimes I think about
how much of that is just a function of

how we receive information as Americans.

We tend to have a there's a.

American centric lens that things
tend to go through and depending on

where we fall in those conflicts,
or if there's an American interests,

determines if we hear about them at all.

Susan: And I think it matters who the
victim is too, because you know, Ukraine.

And Tigray, the same thing is,
as you said, in the intro, the

same thing is happening there.

But it matters to people
what the victim looks like.

And you have white people in the Ukraine
and you have people of color in Tigray.

And that makes a difference.

I think, in that message that comes to us
and in that information that comes from.

Melanie: Absolutely.

We there's, that's one of
the things where we can.

Taking note of the difference in
messaging and how, people want to handle.

And it's not even a deep dive.

We have eyeballs, So we'll definitely
be getting into that a bit today.

And we also have Christine Lu joining us.

Hi Christine.

Christine: Hello everyone.

Melanie: Thanks so much for joining.

Christine: Yes, absolutely.

As Susan was talking, I was also thinking
those of us who do follow international

relations like I do, this is a reminder
of, we can't cover every region.

A lot of my expertise has been focused
on Asia, specifically in recent

years to U S and China relations.

And as a result of that, When I hear and
follow and learn about Ukraine, it's from

my lens of, and you hear this on the news
is Taiwan next because I'm Taiwanese.

But having said that it was a
really good point that Susan made,

times like this is, it is good to.

No, what we don't know.

And if we can just get a little bit more
educated on it before we share opinions

online that is already a good start.

That's not happening a lot these days.

So I'm looking forward to
the conversation today.

Melanie: And I think before we dig
into that, we can talk a bit about.

Situations like this and how, before
we even get into the actual issue, we

have to wait through the misinformation.

Like we have to, since we know that that's
a tool, since we know that people in

power are going to try and obfuscate the
facts, especially if they're at fault.

Then we need to make sure that we're a
doing our due diligence, but then there's

the other side of that, where in this
social media age, and especially if you

have any degree of invisibility, there's
this expectation that you have to give

your take, you have to speak on it.

You have to say something none.

If you don't know what
you're talking about.

It's okay.

It's okay to.

To hush and read or to say,
I don't understand this.

Can you point me to information?

And then that if those sources are
sources that you trust, but I think the

living in the time of the hot take is
also something and being in the rush

to be first, when we don't necessarily
have pertinent facts, That can be a

danger when it comes down to sharing
information on serious things like that.

So that's the, that's one of the big
things that I've had to do, not only

look for my sources, but then vet those
sources to make sure that there's not some

hidden agenda or, you know, somebody's
not playing fast and loose with the truth.

One of the things we did this
week is spoke with someone who

is personally affected by this.

I have the opportunity to interview Mr.

Vitali Dorosh , who has been in
America for 23 years, but still

has family in Ukraine and is
able to keep in touch with them.

To, know what's going on, which I guess
is one of those benefits that 20 years

ago or so would not have necessarily
been, communication would have been much

more difficult, but is able to keep in
touch as able to know what's going on.

And he talked a bit about what
it was like for him and also what

the need would be, how, how it is.

Being on the other side
of that for his family.

So we'd like to talk a bit and get
an excerpt of the conversation that

we had with him It's very much from
the outside, looking in a lot of what

we see our families, regular people
who are fighting for their freedom,

which is something that I think a lot
of us here can, can take for granted.

Can you talk a little bit about.

The actual experience, because we talked
before about even just things like

work and medical care, the struggles.

Can you talk a bit about the
struggles, your family And the

people you know, are facing to give?

Vitali Dorosh: I can tell you
I was working for contractor.

He didn't help he didn't have medical
insurance, so you can buy, but.

minimum wage, minimum wage at, the time
was 4.75, so it was impossible to buy it.

So I was so scared that if something
like happens to me, then we'll be

a hard to get treatment without.

But nothing happened until actually this
happened, I fell from scaffolding and

crashed my head and got disabled, but
it was six months, six weeks, six years

after working so worker compensation
covered it and was glad that my

contractor hired me legally, because
when my brother-in-law came, somebody

fire him, just pay cash on the table.

If that happened, it would
be not worker's compensation.

Actually now two family come in to
our, to my brothers side family, too.

They going to meet them in April 17th.

what it's different, a family many of
them have already found work for them and

they will help the relatives meet we're
going to help as much as we can too.

Melanie: Which is so necessary when
you're, when you're starting over.

When it comes to supporting
your family, that's still there.

There's had to have been because
there's, there's not people aren't really

able to work right now or earn money
right now in these conditions, right?

Vitali Dorosh: Oh, there
is there a big trouble.

What happen Actually with
my daughter is right.

message about when people start
to start to give money and

we sending money over there.

Yes, there is.

I don't know.

There is very scarce work or they
can make, the side, , basically

for food to help him and for paying
for utilities to our relatives.

And they help them.

Church is preparing foods and they send
you in that food to Kiev to the Bucha that

we're talking to people in area three,
they send in food, by vans, by trucks.

So they have to buy food because so
far the exhausts, all the food, they

have all, they have to buy foods for
just recently, I send my brother,

my brother's thousand dollars.

It's not my money and my money was
little bit, but people just give.

He spend all everything on
food and on, on guests to get

to Kiev He showed my videos.

It's 25.

to see what people get through.

What if you, if you see a, you probably
seen it stories what happened when

Ukraine army freed the area around
Kiev and Bucha place and all that.

It was unthinkable

Melanie: it's unlike anything I've seen.

Uh, it's unlike anything.

A lot of us have seen, on, on this
level in mainstream media, not

necessarily in our lifetimes at least.

And one of the things that you mentioned
when we spoke was that even things

like water are difficult and scarce

Vitali Dorosh: Oh, and I was,
especially, it was in Mariupol'

or where still under the siege.

I covered this story that we're
talking, even the president was talking.

President of Ukraine said it was snow.

people don't have water, they can melt
the snow, have some water You know

it's not clean but right now, the more
difficult people in occupied territory,

living without, water without, food.

what they do and they, they actually,
when they occupied territory people, they

want people turn on their side and people
do they have kind of feel easier, but

they don't want to be people demonstrate
and still fight it like, or that people

not don't want to, you know, give up.

They're just trying to eliminate them
or what, which is just bad so far.

Like I read this story just right
now, this, the hit rocket hit the

station train station Kramatorsk.

where it was about a
thousand people 50 killed.

and they deny that they did it.

They said Ukrainian nation did.

That is just, just bad

Melanie: and that's the thing.

a lot of misinformation happens.

I mean, it's not unfamiliar.

I mean, you you've even seen the news
here, how misinformation has thrived and

they're capitalizing on that on that now

Vitali Dorosh: We have family in
the church whose whose husband was

family was on kind of Russia side.

What like you said, but kids knows
kids see all their were Nikolai

fleet to Poland, get kids seen
everything and tell him the husband

now, change his opinion right away,
because his family is doing that.

So it's yeah.

Misinformation is like, information
of war is, it is going on, it's bad

Melanie: it's a way to start in the mind.

and cause if you've already swayed, I
mean, we see when people already have

their preconceived ideas, it's very easy
to push them to one side or the other.

It's very easy to manipulate
when you're not using the truth.

I appreciate again, you, you talking
to us and so before we go, you talked a

bit about what your experience was like.

Coming here needing work, meeting
legal work, someone who would,

you know, who wouldn't do the
higher under the table type thing.

Can you talk a bit about other than,
than finances, any other support that

you remember needing that you might
want to share with the audience?

Because these are, you know, things
that we'll have to deal with And, and

just the spirit of being good neighbors.

Vitali Dorosh: What the experience
we had, uh, you know, we were blessed

to be support, by church, which is
mean not just one person, because

there is some family, it was sponsored
by businessman, just one person.

It was much harder for them to adjust just
much harder than that group of people.

So I would suggest if somebody
wants to want to support it's

best to have a group of people.

And if not sure, just group of people
to support it will be easier than just

one person, because it's, it's hard
to build a big culture differences.

It will be all the money involved will be,
whatever else, it start life beginning.

But like, for me, it was shocking.

Uh, Church help me it
was, they got car for me.

The car was old, but it was still
drivable, but I said, oh I have

to pay money for insurance every
month you have to pay for insurance.

I never heard it said, oh, but
then I kept a couple accidents

and I didn't go to jail.

I said, okay, I'll buy insurance.

Because it, I didn't kill anybody, but

Melanie: was right.

And it's one of those things like you have
to you have to learn it's it's, that's

the other thing, like getting, getting
acclimated to how things are done here.


Vitali Dorosh: It's taken
time, this is what better help.

More than one person to support family.

Melanie: I want to thank you again, Mr.

Dorosh for joining us today.

we're going to share, cause I know
you mentioned we got donation links,

so we're going to share those with
our audience to make sure that,

your family gets the support they
need as well as other organizations.

So that, because there are a lot
of people who are willing to help

and we want to make sure that we
direct them to the right places.

So thank you again for talking.

Vitali Dorosh: Thank you very much
for willing to help for Ukraine

we're on same side, you know,
wait a minute, I'll show you some.

So we on face time.

Proud to be an American.

Melanie: You've been 20, 23 years here.


That's older than my kids.

Vitali Dorosh: Yes.

we're glad to be an American

Melanie: Glad to have you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you So much.


Hi, Mrs.


thank you so much for,
for joining us today.

Thank you.

One of the things that stood out the
most in what he said was when it comes

down to giving aid, it's really big.

It takes a village energy, Right?

Instead of, you know, one person
doing something really coming together

collaboratively as a group, whether it's

a church group or another, you know,
advocacy organization group, because

they're going to have different needs.

They're going to have.

Social needs and business
needs they'll need work.

And someone who can maybe help
them get social services and

the church that Mr Dorosh family is going
through to help their family members.

It is river city, church of Pittsburgh.

And to donate, you can go to

And there's a donation button in specify
Ukraine, mission fund in your donation.

There were a couple of things outside
of, the very specific things, the things

that are specific to Ukraine, Ukraine,
that, that hit me first of course.

And it's, the disinformation like
Christine talked about earlier

and how crucial a part that plays,

I'm going to kick it to,
to either one of you.

But one of the things I think about
is how the small thing that he

mentioned was how his relatives, kids
seeing it is what have that impact.

And I feel like that's something
that even here in America, we can

relate to that because so much of.

Misinformation or hidden information that
happens here is because kids are starting

to see and being able to ask questions
that adults aren't comfortable with do

either you want to come in on your take
on, especially like misinformation,

disinformation for things like.

Susan: I'll just jump in there.

One of the things that stood out
to me with that misinformation

campaign is this denazification
and implying that the Ukraine.

That's what Russia is trying
to save the Ukraine from it.

And it's not to say that they
don't have a Nazi problem.

It's not to say that they don't have Nazi


It's not to say that doesn't exist, but
using that as a reason for the invasion

and, you know, and that just plays on
people's fears and it's at the high it's

at the top of a disinformation scheme
that, you know, because everybody thinks,

I think for the most part, not everyone.

When I hear of Nazis, that doesn't evoke
good feelings for me, that's horrifying.

So it plays on that emotion.

And unfortunately, I think a lot of people
just you know, they're interested in that

soundbite and not digging deeper, not
seeing if that's really a problem there.

Melanie: And I think so much about that
because it's as an American, there's

a significant Nazi problem here.

I mean, we, we actually have.

Government officials who speak
at rallies and are, not only

sympathetic but supportive.

I mean, we look at people like Josh,
Holly, who, while maybe not an open

Nazi sympathizer was absolutely
sending positive messaging to

insurrectionists on January six.

for, For me as someone who lives
in a world where white supremacy

is not just an American problem,
it's an international problem.

It's not saying that that doesn't exist.

It's very big.

Even the peace Corps, I believe it was.

Sent out a very, very curious messaging
to some of their black volunteers

saying that you may encounter
racism in dealing with these people.

And while I obviously have a, different
view of how that should be handled,

it was addressed because it is.

It was a very, very clear problem
there, but that does not change the fact

that there's an another motive, which
is more of how we got here is, Putin

being uncomfortable with the whole,
that NATO is getting, to the west.

Ukraine joining NATO.

That's a very big chunk along
that edge of the border.

If you start looking at where NATO
is gaining ground from just the

countries that have joined since 1997.


Seeing that you have to
look at the bigger picture.


There is very clearly a problem
there, but we all, that, that

problem is not only in Ukraine,
that's not just a Ukrainian problem.

So you have to, take that with
a grain of salt, especially when

you're dealing with someone who
doesn't like differences of opinion.

Christine, I'd like to talk a bit
because we're, we all know what

the pump looks like right now.

So I just wanted to talk a little
bit about what this has done,

sort of to the global financial
outlook, just from your perspective.

And you can go as narrow or
wide with that as you want.

Christine: Yeah, so war has
impact on everything, right?

And depending on the industry that
we're talking about, I believe I read

even just from a food supply issue.

We're not even seeing, but
we're going to see an impact

on disruption of supply chains.

For grain, something that we don't even
think about on a regular basis, right?

There are countries that actually re
rely on grain coming from the Ukraine.

There are countries that like Germany
that relied on fuel coming from Russia.

What happens when, you've got a
factor in geopolitical situations,

two things that are going to disrupt.

Everyday life for your citizens.

We felt that here, we were still
feeling that here with the gas prices.

And so it absolutely is
going to affect that.

I think also whenever there's
uncertainty in the world we don't

even need to follow geopolitics to
start feeling it because when we're

feeling uncertain we're not feeling as
confident as consumers to go out and buy.

We're not feeling confident
in, investing in things.

And it really does impact.

We may not even know the details of
what it is, but we know something

is going on that may impact
me personally, down the road.

So, Hey, maybe I shouldn't.

Make that purchase or
choose this or choose that.

And collectively it does
start to have an impact.

And I also wanted to say going back to the
disinformation part really quick another

way to also look at it is when you're
dealing with authoritarian governments,

and this is Russia, this is also China.

And then you have the fog of war.

The biggest fear to these leaders
early on and ongoing is their own.

And I say that to say Putin and his
elite, aren't the ones going in and

fighting and committing war crimes
now that we're finding out and just,

going in and doing the dirty work,
if you will, these are young soldiers

who, if it weren't for Russia's
ability to control its information,

you've got a lot of moms right now.

I'm sure in Russia, wondering
where their kids are at, right.

Things like that.

It's in interest of the authoritarian,
governments and power to try to control

information in times like this, because
absent of that, if they had the free

flow, you'll see this early on in the war.

The first thing they shut off
was access to social media.

Because if you know the citizens, which
they are many of them, and then you create

consequences for those who do know and
try to spread the risk, spread the news

internally because that in numbers has a
destabilizing effect on the government.

So it, it's interesting
to see that play out,

Melanie: And then one of the other things
that they go for is medical care and how

many hospitals have gotten bombed and.

What was said in Russian media
versus what the reality was what's

being said about the mass occurs
in versus what the reality is.

This is just, continually what we've
been seeing and not only in Russia, but

also when we look at the Tigray region.

Some of the same things.

We're still, we're having these same
issues of ethnic cleansing, people who

are, and we're talking about people in
Africa, we are we're we already know.

How we have to contend with just
generalized anti-blackness in the media.

that's the thing that we deal with across
the board, but especially in something

like this, where there isn't a significant
impact on Western interest right now,

these are just people who are, these are
just white people who are being wiped out.

Walking in a hundred degree
heat with bullet holes and going

back to Ukraine in Mariupol'.

One of the things, when I talked to Mr.

Dorosh, he talked about how it the
season's changing prison and a new

challenge, because some of the way
they were getting water with snow.

And now that the snow is starting to
Mount we're, we're dealing with that.

If we go back to just the heat of
Africa and then having to deal with

walking to a place that probably does
not have sufficient medical care or

not knowing what the sentiment is
going to be when you arrive there.

These are all things that need awareness,
whether it's, whether we're talking about.

People in Ukraine, whether we're talking
about people into grind, whether we're

talking about people who are being
bused from Texas to DC, the same things

those same aid for refuge exists.

People need work, people need
food, people need medical care.

And this is something, whether
the person is white, black,

brown, those are constants.

And we have open letters.

Susan, can you go through some of
the open letters we have first, we're

going to go through the letters we
have for Ukraine, but we also have

some letters for, Tigray as well.

Susan: Yes, we sure do.

We have three that three open
letters on a Ukraine situation

that we're highlighting today.

And the first one is entitled.

Save lives, protect Ukrainians.

Protect Ukraine's skies.

And this is an open letter to the
president, president Biden and

to the United States Congress.

And it's asking for the United States
government and for NATO to help protect.

The airspace over Ukraine, because
I'm so much of the destruction that's

happening there is coming from the air.

It's not necessarily happening
on the ground, although there is

a lot happening on the ground.

A lot of the destruction is coming from.

Planes flying overhead.

And so that petition, the call sign
for that is P as in Peter, F as in

Frank, E T as in Tom, Y as in yoga,
G as in good, I, as in ice cream.

And if you text that call sign to five
zero four zero nine, you can sign on

to this petition and you can send.

To the president again, and to
members of Congress and then the,

we have two other petitions and the
second one is entitled more military

and humanitarian aid to Ukraine.

One of the big things that's
happening there is we mentioned the

social services have been impacted
medical facilities and providers

have been impacted in a huge way.

Facilities are being bombed.

You know, as one of the ways
to try to keep the Ukrainian

people from fighting back.

And so this petition's call sign
is P as in Peter, Y as in yellow.

W as in winter, Z as in zebra,
K as in kitchen is an Edward.

And that again is an open letter
to the president and to Congress.

And our third open letter on
Ukraine is called protect Ukraine

now for real simple title.

And so again, it's speaking to the
demolition coming from the air.

And having an asking for our government
to take steps, to try to, again,

protect that airspace over the Ukraine
and maybe bring an end to some of

that destruction that's happening.

And this call sign is P as in Peter, Q, G
as in good U as an umbrella C as in cat.

Q and again, as always, if one
of these petitions doesn't strike

the right chord for you, it
doesn't say what you want to say.

Any letter that you send to any of your
legislatures, the president Congress you

can turn any one of those into a petition.

By just following the prompts.

Once you have drafted and sent your
letter, so you can sign onto these

or you can draft one of your own.

And as always, you can then invite
friends and families to sign

onto your petition and send that
message and show that solidarity.

And we have two petitions on
Tigray that we're looking at.

And the first one is entitled collapsing.

Healthcare in Tigray,
urgent action is needed.

And again, this goes back to the
fact that they are purposefully

bombing medical facilities.

So people can't get medical care
and if they can't get medical care,

maybe they won't fight back as much.

And so.

It's a tactic.

So this petition it's called sign is P as
in Peter, L as in Larry, F as in Frank, M

as in Mary, J as in jelly, R as in Robert.

And again, text that to 5 0 4 0
9, and then the third one, or the

second one that we have on to cry.

Calling for president Biden to
call what's happening in Tigray.

Exactly what it is genocide.

And so, they're reminding him
of his campaign promise to

center human rights in policy.

And so they're bringing that back to the
forefront and the call sign for this one

is P as in Peter, I, as in ice cream, B as
in boy is an Edward Y as in yoga, G as in.


And again, if these parties.

Don't say what you need to
say or what's in your heart.

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Melanie: Thanks so much, Susan.

And yeah that's absolutely
it because there's so many.

when you're looking at war, there
are so many different issues that

need attention that need help.

And of course the military
aid is one of them, but there

are going to have to be there.

Doesn't need to just be a, a
more cohesive plan for how aid is

administered in an even handed and
equitable way across the board.

And that's something.

So there's always space for that.

And you can text resists to 5 0 4 0 9.

Before we dip.

I wanted to talk to you about if
there were any other things that

you had your eye on this week.

Christine: I do, uh, I don't know if you
have followed what's going on in China,

but they have a flare up of And if you
even Googled Shanghai right now, usually

when you Google Shanghai, you get news
about, you know, economic development

about innovation, about things like
that, that they like to associate with.

You know, it's one of the most modern
cities in Shanghai in China kind of.

Compared to the New York of
China, if you will, there is a

lot of unrest right now happening.

There is a complete lockdown of the
city that has been taking place probably

for a good two to three weeks now.

And it doesn't look like it's
letting up because their COVID

cases, numbers are going up and.

There are some very disturbing videos
that keep getting posted by the citizens

and keep getting taken down and blocked.

Because going back to what we
mentioned about an authority hearing

or authoritarian government's
ability to censor its own

people, the news is getting out.

And so I just wanted to
bring attention to that.

You know, the contrast to that, I
know people like to compare, the U S

and China and authoritarianism versus
democracy, but this is a very extreme

case where you can see what happens
when, basic civil services break down.

And there is a lack of accountability
and on top of that, a need to sensor.

So actually the true.

Can't get out.

And so what happens is the citizens
become even more distrustful of their

own government on relying on certain
things, such as just delivering

vegetables there because food is running
out and it starts a downward spiral.

So I just wanted to just highlight that.


Melanie: Thanks so much.

And absolutely it's always going
to be who controls the information.

That's why, when, things like
billionaires wanting to purchase

Twitter outright people react because.

You have to understand, you have
to think about what that means.

What does that mean when someone
controls a powerful information conduit?

So, absolutely.

I have, been looking into that, but
I am going to look in more because I

didn't know about the removed videos.

See, that's why I got to ask questions
because I'm here to learn too.

Susan, do you have anything that
you're taking a look at listening to?

It's got your attention.

Susan: Candidly, I have
had a very low key week.

Not really looked at anything, but I
would just ask people to, if you're

looking for ways to support the people
into grime, if you're looking for

ways to support people in the Ukraine,
Google, so how can Americans help?

And there are all kinds of organizations
that are doing really good work

doctors without borders is one of them.

That's their mission to go in and.

Where help is needed.

So I just encourage people to, look
at your church, your local church,

if you're a person of faith, are
they doing any kind of fundraising

just search out some ways to help.

And and that's what I'm going to be.

Melanie: Thank you.

Thank you so much.

And that's, that's something we all
need to look more into if you know

of a conflict and it's not to grime
or it's not Ukraine just know that

even if it's not in the news, there's
probably the, the same basic tactics

and the same basic needs out there.

So be sure to, to.

Look more and look for the, in the
organizations who are providing help.

So before we go Christine tell
them where they can follow you.

Christine: Christine Lou on
Twitter as usual so see you there

Melanie: Thanks, Christine and Susan.

Susan: I'm at twin thing too on.

Melanie: Thank you so much.

Thank you so much for joining us.

And if you, for whatever reason, want to
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One of the things I cheated, I didn't tell
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on in New York and just the disregard for
people who, who don't have means while at

the same time there are, you know, things
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where a shooter can kind of take the day.

In, uh, with the police force
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I'm kind of struggling for words
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