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Hey, Julian & Cesc here at Padel
Smash Academy, and today we
have the Paddle Power couple,
Javier Barona and Sabrina Suarez.
Javier was born into the family
of sportsmen from Madrid, Spain.
Javier was initially passionate about
football before discovering paddle
as far in which he excels today as
a 30th ranked player in the world.
Sabrina is the o Co-owner of 30
Lo and Ladies Apparel brand for
rocket sports, originally from
Venezuela, and now based in Miami.
The Power Duo combines their extensive
experience and love for rocket sports.
We are super excited to have the
Power Paddle capital of 2025.
Sabina Suarez, and the
World Famous Heavy Bona.
Welcome to the Channel guys.
Thank you.
We're so super excited to have you here.
Uh, why don't we start with you Javi.
Javi.
Uh, everybody wants to know
what that, listen to us.
Who is Javi Bar?
Well, um, I'm a guy from Spain.
I'm 26 years old.
Eh, I have been playing paddle since
like 17 years old, 1770 years old.
Oh, all right.
And, uh, I am professional paddle player.
I'm top 29 in the world.
So you originally, uh,
played, uh, soccer, right?
Football.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
So, uh, when you were younger Yeah.
At what point did you transition
and say, I wanna play battle?
Or where, I mean, I'm sure you've
seen it all the time in Spain.
Yeah.
At what point did you say, okay, I
wanna play battle instead of football?
Yeah.
What ball was wearing
a lot and my brother.
Eh, start playing like
professional under 16.
And I like sports in general.
So my brother, my brother goes to
the tournament and also I go and
I becoming, eh, better and better.
And one day my father, my father say, you
have to choose football or, or paddle and.
In football.
I, I, I was going like this and
in paddle like this, so it was,
it was like Julia, like, like
it was easy.
So, but you, you, you
tried to play for what?
The mad the Atlantic?
Yeah.
Athletic.
Athletic.
Wow.
I, I, I play in a very good team and
then I train with the athletic like
one or two month, month, but it wasn't.
So good to play in.
Let, are you,
are you
a politic fan or?
Yes.
He's very sad.
Oh, very sad.
He is very sad.
But that's, he was screaming like crazy.
But
that's what usually
happens, I swear to God.
Every, every time.
Oh, horrible.
It's a nightmare.
It's a nightmare.
Yeah.
Again, so now, now you are in Miami.
Yeah.
Uh, tell us, uh.
How's Miami treating you?
I know you guys are with, with Serena.
Yeah.
You, you are almost living
half of your time here.
I mean, tell us, how's Miami
treating you and, and Yeah.
Well, uh, one year and ago I met Sari.
How, how, how, where, where and a half,
probably because the league, yeah.
Last year I come to the league and we
were playing intra, and Sabrina was there.
Uh,
watching in general?
Watching or stalking?
Watching.
Watching.
No.
She loves
crazy with Yeah.
She loves, he, he says,
he says, I'm a freaky.
Yeah.
So who made the
first
move?
Who made the first move?
Obviously,
but I can tell and know her for quite
a few years and, and she's always
on the paddle court taking lessons.
And trying to improve, and I think now
you guys have the perfect match, you
know, outside and inside the court.
I think, yeah,
for me it's easy because our job is
difficult to understand sometimes
because we have to train a lot.
We can, eh, sometimes we can not go for
dinner or go out or like just holidays.
We have to drink Saturday, Sunday, and.
She understands everything,
so, and I'm the best.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So tell us, how is the life of a
professional paddle player nowadays?
Yeah.
Well now I'm, I am in Miami, eh, withs,
like, I'm trying to be in Madrid and in
Miami, but normally, like, uh, I wake up
at seven eight and I go to the gym and I
work out like one hour and a half or less
with my, my coach, my personal trainer.
And then we go to the academy in here.
I train with ULA in reserve and
in, I train with Gabby and Martin
Antonio in the academy for me.
They are one of the best
trainers in, in the world.
And we do like two hours paddle
with other players in the academy.
We have, uh, like more.
Also my Garnet Garcia Campa.
And here we train with, um, another guys.
They're playing very, very good.
And then we go home and in the, at the
afternoon we, we train like one hour, like
eh, training shots or maybe we do a match.
And then after that one
day, we go to the physio.
Then to the psychology or whatever, like.
This is a normal day.
And that's five days a
week, six days a week.
Do you take any time off
from Monday to Friday?
We do that, and then Saturday or
and Sunday we do a match or we
like a specific train or we go
to the gym or we go to yoga now.
Yeah, doing hot yoga.
Hot yoga.
So, so how
do you see Pvo here in the USA.
Wow.
Especially compared to
the other countries.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And what the potential is.
No.
Here in Miami it's growing
a lot, A lot, a lot.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
Now, for me, it's at the same level in,
in, in Spain and also in another city.
It's growing a lot too.
Like, uh, San Diego,
la, New York, New York.
Now you can, can't book a court.
It's always full.
And I think if people from
us understand what paddle is.
Uh, it can be crazy.
It can be crazy because many people
from us don't know how, how paddle, you
know, uh, and they are starting to, to
know paddle and the feeling that you
have in the court is easy to place.
So if other cities and other like, uh,
side, no paddle is gonna be crazy here.
So, Javi,
let me ask one thing.
The life of a professional paddle player.
Yeah.
Uh.
How easy or difficult it is,
meaning financially, professionally?
Yeah.
Uh, I mean, we have a lot of viewers
that they want to become professional
paddle players and all that.
Yeah.
What does it need to become
a professional paddle
player and when you're in the top 10?
Yeah.
20. It's a little easier.
Yeah.
Sponsorships and everything.
Once you start getting lower ranked,
it's yeah, a little bit tougher.
Can talk about that.
There
many, there are many difference
in the top 20 and the rest.
I think if you are on the top 50 in
the world, you can live from Padel
and have a life, but it's difficult
because, eh, the, the sponsor doesn't
pay too much to these type of players.
Uh, so you have to like, obviously
with matches, uh, eh, have a good
agent, eh, maybe do an exhibition.
So, eh, and do like other
things to on the side too.
Yeah.
They smart projects, right?
Uh, the price Money in
Premier Paddle is good.
And it's much better than
the, the, the war paddle tour.
But it's not enough because we
have to pay, eh, our trainers,
our physical trainer theology.
The trouble, the flights.
Yeah, the, the flights.
So it's difficult.
It's difficult.
So lemme ask, so, um, I, you, you only
play P ones or P twos or, or autonomous.
Do you play Usually
we, we play P two.
P one and major, like, it's like
in tennis, like, um, the masters?
Yeah.
The two hundreds.
The 2 55 hundreds.
Two, yeah.
Two 50.
So, lemme ask one thing.
How much a, a player makes
by winning the first round?
An average,
like
for, for a P one, let's say Miami one.
K
one.
One K. More or less.
1000. 1000.
That's it.
Yeah.
$1,000. Just to win the
first, the first round.
Yeah.
Of the, of the main drill.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's not a lot.
And you have to pay the ticket.
I know you have to pay your coach.
And also if you lose, we have like Chile
next week, uh, you have to pay also the
hotel until you start the next tournament.
Wow.
And, uh, P two I'm sure is lower.
Gig one was much lower.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like so how much money?
Uh, uh, I don't know.
Eight.
Uh, hundred.
800. 800. Yeah.
So, so you're saying the
top 50 can make a living.
Right.
And of course the higher you go, the more
money you're gonna make after the 50.
It's you're putting
money in your own pocket.
Mm, yeah.
Yeah.
They or or maybe do like very close.
Yeah.
Do do other things like play in
the proper league, go to Italy
to play the the National League.
Oh, okay.
Go to Qatar to play a
different tournament.
So you have to move and.
Try to do more, more things.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
So they're like, uh, second tier options,
like in tennis, you go play, uh, indoor
clubs in Europe and things like that.
Yeah,
because we only, we
don't only have Premier.
We have the FI tournament.
Okay.
And, but the price money is not good.
Okay.
It's not good.
So you can leave but not, uh, make a
leaving out of video.
Yeah.
Just talk That that.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Sabrina, let's talk about your brand.
'cause you have an apparel brand, right?
Women's apparel brand.
And now is this for all
record sports or just battle?
It's mostly for all record
sports.
Sports.
All record sports, correct?
Pretty much,
yeah.
And it's just women, or is it also men?
Right now, only women's, uh.
Hopefully we'll have a second
collection for men's as well.
We're working on it right now.
Um, we wanted to, but you know,
there's a lot of investment and we
wanted to make things right, so we
decided to just keep it women's first
collection, see how it goes, and
then work on the second collection.
So how did that
happen?
Did you just wake up, Hey, I want to
do some apparel, and when did that
happen and did you guys get investors
or was this bootstrapped on your own?
Uh, like give us the
whole story, everything
on our own.
Nice.
Um.
We had like a, like a storage.
We, we sold it and we used that
money to invest on the brand.
And usually it started because I
wanted to have like better relationship
with my sister and have something
in common, something that united us.
So this is with your sister?
With your sister?
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, we do it together and I'm a graphic
designer, she's a fashion designer, so
we didn't have to pay literally anybody
to do any of the packaging or perfecting.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it was, it was pretty
fun to work on it.
Like it's hard.
It is.
It took us like a year, but we
wanted to do something different.
Not only like having a catalog
from, from, from the company
and say, Hey, I like this.
Let's put this logo.
No.
Like we did everything from scratch.
Uh, my sister designed
the whole collection and.
It was fun.
It's hard, but we love,
we love the process.
And
that's here in Miami?
Or is that Here in
Miami?
Yeah.
So
do you guys have a brick and mortar
location or, or just all e-commerce?
It's all e-commerce now we're
gonna be at Ultra Oh nice.
For around two months starting next week.
So yeah.
Can go
look at some other product there.
Yeah.
Excellent.
And,
and why the color?
That brick color,
you asked me the past and uh, honestly.
I think it's very unisex.
Yeah.
So men and women can wear both.
And I think it's a color that really
describes like rackets sports in general.
And uh, because
you got the red clay of
the, of the, correct.
Yeah.
And I don't know why.
I've always had a thing for when
players slide through the clay court.
I think it's pretty cool.
So I, I, I've loved that
my whole life and, um.
And yeah, we just, we said
this is the right color.
So you're about,
you're talking about this color here?
This color.
That's the traditional color.
Yeah.
The clay color.
And everybody loves the color.
Yeah.
Literally we have such good, uh,
feedback on the color, on the material.
Like one
in one color.
No, no, no, no, no.
So this is like the main color of the
brand, but, and we will include it.
In every collection, but at this, we
wanted to make it like stand more.
Okay,
so now you guys into market and all that.
Um, why 30 Love and
Not 40 Love or 50 Love?
Um, all right.
It's not that complicated.
But, um, we were, we were looking into
the name first brainstorming, so we
wanted to do something related to the,
to Rockets for, so ob obviously it's,
it's the score 30 zero and 15 was like.
I, I'm a very visual person also,
so I wanted to like, I imagine
how it would look on a logo on
the merchandise and everything.
So I think 30 was like
the perfect, um, visual.
Simple minimalistic.
Simple, minimalistic.
Correct.
And then 45, I don't know.
I was 30 as well.
Yeah.
When?
Um, last year.
Okay.
When?
When we started.
So like why not, uh,
never too late to start.
So, so now it's easy to
remember.
It's easy to remember.
Exactly.
Love's easy to remember.
It's catchy.
It is very catchy.
And everybody knows all
over the world, right?
You can tell any language.
Exactly.
You know, there's not, yeah.
So tell us a little bit
about your paddle journey.
How when?
Yeah, that's true.
When you started play.
I started playing I think
like four years ago now.
Okay.
I think, I'm not pretty sure.
Went all crazy thing.
All crazy.
I went all crazy.
Yes.
Um, my sister invited me once to play.
I was.
All into gym.
Like I was gym, gym, gym, was
going to the gym every day.
And then I played once and
I'm like, I'm not that bad.
I'm, I'm kind of good.
So I, I won, she, she had me play
for like six months and I won.
She got super mad and then I started
taking lessons, lessons right away.
I love my le my classes, I love.
Did you play any other T sports prior?
No.
I used to play volleyball.
Oh,
my, my daughter plays volleyball.
Yeah.
So that's a little bit of a, A smash.
With a smash.
That's
what we we're trying to change
because she is not like a
volleyball smash, you know, front.
Yeah.
Please
do
tell you that.
I see your, your, your progress
in the paddle court and, and
your, you're playing incredible.
And you have a great coach with.
Which is Nico?
Nico.
Nico.
Nico.
Yes.
Coach Guy.
Coach.
I mean he's, he's the best one.
The best coaches in Miami
and he's my coach.
This is the number, number
one coach, number one coaches right here.
Come on.
Nico is the best.
I mean, no, I follow you on, on your
social media and you have some sponsors.
You personally have sponsors.
Yeah.
Tell us a little bit
about that, that journey.
Um, I'm working with Celsius.
Okay.
And will battle.
They, um, they, they've have been
sponsored me for like a year now.
Okay.
Pretty much a year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I love Bull Paddle.
Um, what
record, what record do you use?
Uh, the one from
Alejandro Alejandro Salazar.
Flo The Flow.
Nice.
I love it.
I love it.
It's amazing.
Yes.
Right behind.
So Google that.
Yeah,
I have the, the white 1, 1 1.
Previous new one.
Yeah.
And I love it.
And I don't know how it happened.
I just, I'm always posting things
Yeah.
Related to pa to paro.
Not that much, like, not super crazy,
but a few things I did, uh, get me there.
And it's, it's great to work with them.
Uh, BOPA is amazing.
They send me a lot of
things and I love it.
And now I also combine
Bopa with my own brand.
They let me do the, do that.
Oh, that's great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's really good.
Yeah, it's amazing.
That's, and, um.
Yeah, I just, I, I love the sport,
I love the community as well.
Yeah.
I think it has given people like it's
growing in the United States, but it's
also making like, like, uh, not, it's
not called community, but like Yeah.
Here in Miami you have like a family.
Yeah.
You go to a club, you know everybody.
Yeah.
Now you go to a tournament and everybody's
watching your match and supporting you,
and you can play like a mixed and then.
With your friends and
then, yeah, I like it.
I like it.
Is
that separate from Europe or is
that, oh, it's not like that.
No, no, no, no.
So its closer like
that.
Why?
Why are you playing mixed matches?
I mean, that's not, we do that here.
It's normal.
Yeah.
In Spain now you go to the
club, you with your friends,
you play, and then you go home.
It's not normal.
The same.
So, so now hobby that now we're
talking about sponsors and all that.
Why don't we talk about a
little bit about your sponsors.
Do you have any sponsors?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now I'm with Ox.
Ox.
Okay.
Yeah, it's very, very good brand.
Uh, I used to play with, uh, s uh,
but LA uh, last year we start with
og uh, for me, one of the best brands
in the world because the racket is,
it's really good.
Yeah, it's really good.
It's really good.
I never played, uh, play
before with a racket like this.
It's not like.
Uh, marketing is, is real, is real,
and every, every players know.
I don't know why, but the racket,
um, I think you have to have
a good level because it's not.
Easy.
Not, not, not difficult, but not
easy to play with this racket.
They are little bit hard, but if
you have a good level and you try
an Oxo, you want change to another.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're
fairly new to this, to the US
and their rep came and brought us
their rackets to, yeah, we have,
we, we haven't reviewed them yet,
but we're looking forward to 'em.
We see a few people using it.
That's scrapes.
What model do you use?
I use the Hyper Pro plus.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Yeah, and it's hard.
Okay.
If you like to smash and have
control, it's very, very good bracket.
It's
very good.
So, so how, you know
you have played the PPL?
Yeah.
Did you play, you didn't
play the gon, right?
No.
No.
So you play the PPL and and all.
What do you think about this team formats?
Do you like it?
Don't like it?
What is your personal?
For me, I like it.
And also I think for the fans are
great because nowadays we have like.
All the same finals is is yeah, a real
thing that Coyo and Tapia and also
Glan and Chino are much better than
the rest, like the two last past year.
And when we play this type of
tournament, we change everything.
Maybe you can see EO against Tapia.
Yeah.
It's pretty fun to watch it.
Really fun to watch.
Yeah.
And also for us like to.
To change your partner for once
because eh, we train with our partner,
eh, we do a gym with our partner.
Eh, we have lunch, we have dinner.
Eh, we go to the So you could cheat.
Yeah.
Cheat.
Exactly.
You cheat a how fast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A how fast
we,
and then you meet other
players as well, like, yeah.
Right.
You can change the mentality.
Yeah.
We, we were playing India, so.
With a team.
It also the PPL and Oh, that's right.
You play in India too.
Yeah.
So tell us a little bit about that.
I mean, we, something
about it, I mean, yeah,
they, they, they did
like a PPL tournament.
Uh, we were like four teams.
Four teams.
Four teams.
Eh, three, three.
Don't remember.
It was like three masculine.
How two males?
No.
Two.
Two males.
One mix and one female.
Yeah.
Oh, similar to the P?
Yeah.
But only one said Oh.
So very short one said very short.
Like
crazy.
Like So Golden point or not?
Golden point.
Golden point.
Oh my God.
So you two mistakes on the gold point.
Yeah.
And if doesn't matter,
is you lose your game.
Uh, because the important is to
do more games than the others.
Yeah.
So, oh, interesting.
And how, how
is it over there?
And, and because we're starting to
grow our followers there, it's just
the first How is, how is Paddle there?
No,
it's growing a lot.
It's growing a lot.
Um, the owner of the
tournament is from Dubai.
Uh, and he wants to make paddle
big in India, and it is starting
to, to grow a lot, like in the
new buildings, they make a court.
Wow.
The complex was really good.
The complex was really good.
Yeah.
It was good experience.
So habi, which question that I
always wanted to know and, and,
uh, says too, and we get, we get
asked from my viewers and listeners.
What is
the difference into colo,
Tapia and everybody else?
Or, or Chin, what do they
have that you guys don't have?
Or what do you guys need to
have for them to play a d?
What is it
for me, one, the big difference?
Uh, the mindset.
Yeah, the mindset.
The mindset.
The mindset.
Yeah.
Wow.
What, what do you mean
by about the mindset?
Um, I mean, is.
Like, uh, he always want more,
more, more, more and more.
And Tapia is like very calm.
So do they do the perfect Yeah, the
perfect combo because when sometimes koya
is nervous and Tapia is calm, and when
Tapia needs someone to push him up, Koyo
to write, and also they, they play like
you, you play against Korea, Tapia, and
they play like one hour at the same level.
Same, same, same, same,
same, same, same, same thing.
So they don't drop the level?
No, no.
They just keep going.
Boom, boom.
Yeah.
And, and the other players
played like one set good.
And then you go down two
minutes and that's it.
Yeah.
And that's it.
And that's, for example, gland, the,
the last year, the end of the year was
like playing a little bit like this.
Mm-hmm.
I mean.
It's impossible with Yeah.
To be consistent.
Yeah.
To be co So the
consistency is crucial.
Yeah.
Because, and mental strength.
Yeah.
For me it's mental.
In this level, uh, everybody know how,
how to smash or defend or good physics.
We have like everything like
koya and tapia and gaan.
Much better than, yeah.
Somewhere than others.
Yeah.
They have like another skills
a little bit better than us,
but the, the mental mentality.
Yeah.
Okay.
But what, so, so technically
they're pretty much, everybody's
pretty much the same.
So, for example, Tapia is, is better
than the rest, but not on what topic?
Big difference on what?
Tapia is better than the risk.
Like the facility.
Skill.
Skill.
Skills.
Skills, yeah, skills.
But what you're saying
is the consistency and the mental
strength is very consistent too, right?
Yeah.
And that makes a difference
where other players, sometimes
they're down and mentally and then
they lose, they make mistakes.
Yeah.
That's good.
That's what the problem that he
has all the time when he plays.
Well, you can barely even play now.
Yeah, that a lot.
So basically technically, I mean,
they're pretty much everybody's the
same because you were just playing
with, with Bella and Co and all that,
and you don't see any difference.
You don't see
a difference.
But for example, Bella always played the
right side, the right uh, the left side.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he plays always where he
has to place the ball, you know?
Anticipating.
Yeah.
So he
knows exactly.
He knows exactly.
Uh, yeah.
For example, K Kki is not
like an aggressive player.
He, he don't have, uh, great, or I
mean, he got really mad, nothing,
but he is smart on the court and
he, he's very focused and now he's.
Uh, top 80 in the war.
Top eight, sorry.
In the war.
So yeah.
That's tell you that you don't have
to smash a lot or to run too much.
Get crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's easy.
Gotcha.
So
Javi the key, the the
million dollar question.
Okay.
So what Habi Barna needs
to move to that level?
You personally, what do
you think you need to move
to get into the top 20 at
least?
Yeah.
Or to the top 10.
Yeah.
I, I, I think if I continue working
my mental and my mind, I can be close
to these type of players because
last year I was, I was playing.
At the same levels many times
against these coupled, but I have
to do more in the time, you know,
like more focus, more time through
the whole
match, through the whole match.
Consistency, consistency, consistency.
That's very important
through the whole thing.
Okay.
So now when you're traveling,
uh, do you travel with him
on, on the, on tour sometimes?
Yes.
Yeah, depending where it is.
Right, because, no, I mean,
I went to India.
Nice.
So.
That was 20 hour flight.
I'm not doing that again.
Well, the
photos one and done.
Beautiful.
One and done.
Right.
One and done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Been there, done that.
Um, no, I love traveling with him.
Um, how do
you manage the the love life paddle,
you know, business situation?
Hmm.
We find time to do everything.
There's time for everything.
Um, I work from wherever.
Yeah.
The laptop
is perfect.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, my sister helps me a lot as
well, and every time I travel with
him, um, he gotta stay focused.
He gotta train and sometimes
it's just, I, I love go watching.
Yeah.
Whatever he does, honestly, it's not,
no, it's not
boring for me, it's, it's pretty cool.
I'm very lucky because
she's my biggest support.
Biggest fan?
The biggest fan?
No.
Also my biggest support.
And he know, she knows how I feel, um,
in the tournament when I have to go
train or when I have to do the pre-match.
So she understand everything.
And for me, it's very important
because not everybody understand
that we are professionals and we, we
go to a tournament maybe, uh, last
year we went to Rome and we were the
first two days at the hotel like.
Only training and yeah,
not everybody knows that.
So for me it's very important
she understand everything and
very supportive.
So she's she for what you're saying.
She's the perfect partner.
Yeah.
So now let's talk about how do you find
the perfect partner on the paddle court?
I mean, how do you do that?
I mean,
it is difficult.
It's difficult because, um, everybody has.
Something that you maybe don't like,
so you have to like be patient.
With these types of thing, because if
maybe one player you don't like, uh, he's
always late to the train or the other one.
Yeah, yeah.
No, the other one.
You're on time today?
No, the, the, the new partner, uh,
don't want to train a lot or so.
You maybe won't have the perfect
partner, but if you are like calm
and you work in that, you won't,
you will have your perfect partner.
I don't know.
You have to explain.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I
get, I get patience.
You talking about it literally
today and you said that a lot.
It's like, like you,
you, you have to make.
That partner and be that,
that person as well.
Like you're a team and if you lose
or you go through a bad batch, you
stay together and you work on it,
it's okay.
But that's easy to say.
But a lot of now they,
they switch, they exactly.
To, so how do you, how do you
convince your partner that to stay
with you, even though if you lose?
No,
it's impossible.
You have to do the right things and day
by day, you know, train good, eh, good
recovery, good mentality, work a lot and.
If, if that is not, um, like,
I don't know how to say,
well, may, maybe there
needs to be balance.
That's a time for this time for the
battle time for your business, you
know, so a balance, that balance.
If,
if that is not enough to your partner.
You have to change, you know?
Okay.
And, and how do you change farms?
I mean, just going to, uh, yeah.
Premier Paddle tour.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Job opening and then for while
It's so weird.
I find it so weird.
Let's see.
The rank.
No, for me, eh, I have been playing with.
Uh, Garcia two years, like
last year we changed like few
tournament because we, we need it.
Uh, but for me, we need a break.
Yeah, we need a break.
But for me, the, the, the long, the
people who play together long time are
the, are better than the rest for sure.
Really?
Yeah.
When we lose, I try to keep calm
and continue working because.
At at final, it's better than
to change, change, change.
But for example, if you're not playing
good and you feel you have to change,
uh, you directly call to the other guy.
Hey.
So, but tell me that, that, that,
that
phone call,
right?
So
that's gonna be the
toughest thing.
I mean,
you have, you are breaking up Yeah.
Worse than breaking up with a girl.
You, so
you're horrible.
I don't wanna play with you anymore.
No, no, no.
Or what do you, what do you tell us?
No, it, it is worse.
It, it, it is worse.
Eh, you know, you, you tell
what you feel, you know?
Eh.
Maybe I, I don't feel comfortable with
you and the court, or I think, uh, you
don't smash any walls and I, I need
something to smash more you, you're like
normal.
Okay.
Okay.
What, what happens if he tells you?
Javi, I love you man.
I wanna stay with you.
Please gimme a second chance.
That's never happened before.
Thank you for telling me this.
'cause I've been having the courage
to give him a call and now I have it.
No,
it's much easier than people think.
Oh, so, so when we, we call your
partner, I mean, you call the partner.
Let, let's say right now you
are playing with Javier Garcia.
Garcia.
Yeah.
You have a contract with him
or just, no, no, just, just,
Hey, you play and that's it.
So, so do you call the person you
wanna play with first or do you break
up with the person you're playing?
Me?
Yes.
So let, let's just say you have a partner.
I always call my partner first.
First is respect.
Okay.
Gotcha.
I don't want to like go behind his back
first.
Yeah.
I, I, I, I would like to be honest, and
also the other people, if honest with me,
me, I don't, but before the other guy.
But you have an idea.
You
break up first before you go.
No, go check with the other one.
But
I break up.
I break up first and
then I call the other.
No,
no, nobody.
He says no.
I have to look for another partner.
Okay.
Big question.
Mm-hmm.
So you're playing with
Javi Garcia right now?
Right now you guys are playing
great, unbelievable, and all that.
Called you.
I hate Avi.
Don't worry, but saying
do the same with me.
That's that's true.
That's true, that's true.
And you understand everything, right?
It is work.
If you call me first.
I am, I'm gonna understand everything.
I don't like if you are talking with
a guy like down and behind your back.
Yeah.
Behind your back, but talk to and
then you call me after a few days.
That's not good.
If you are honest.
I don't have any problem.
Last year Javi decide to
don't play more with me.
Uh, he thinks.
He thought he, we need that, uh, like
change and it was okay, like few months
later, we will play together again.
So if you are honest, I don't
have any problem and most
of the players are the same.
Now you know when you're gonna do that.
Don't you already have an
idea who you're going to ask
before you break up with someone?
Yes, of course, of course.
But you're holding back.
You don't talk to them.
Of course you have an idea.
I just,
okay.
And another thing, another
question also in that partnership.
Let's say Javi has loved his coach.
You love your coach?
Yeah.
So who's coaching you guys now?
Uh, okay.
Who's taking the kids?
Like who, who has the kids now,
now who's doing the babysitting?
Now?
He's coaching.
My coach now is from
Javi, and for me, Martine.
But eh, normally, eh, the one who
has more rank and is like better.
Decide who is the, the coach.
No.
So it is, it is sort of
like that's the, uh, um,
unofficial, unofficial example.
For example, I know, um, Koki
called me and now he's eight in
the world, and he said, we want,
I want to train with that guy.
Okay.
I,
so, and you, you fired your, your coach.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nothing you could do.
Yeah.
And my coach understand that.
Well understand.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For example, uh, one of my
coach, he, uh, he was training.
Four or five years.
And last year, Glan called
xto and Glan said, we, I want
to train with Jorge Martinez.
Okay.
And Gabby said, okay, it's perfect.
I'm happy.
I'm happy because you
are gonna play with Glan.
And if I don't in your team, it's okay.
I, I don't worry.
Don't worry.
Because you, you're gonna play with Milan.
I, I'm happy for you.
You know.
Interesting.
Oh, interesting.
It's like people may maybe think
we have like different, but this.
Normal
Is is the, the, yeah.
Normal life, unwritten rule
of the law or whatever.
Yeah,
yeah.
No, it's
normal.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Here I can, you're getting ugly, you know?
Right?
Yes.
No.
Sometimes you can get angry or so,
but it's not common because it's,
our word is It's understandable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We see each other every day.
This is.
We have like many years
to play in the future.
So you don't know, maybe you can come
back and play with your partner that.
Wow.
I love all that.
Yeah.
Exciting.
Exciting, but is always helping
me with this type of situation.
No, not that guy.
She's not good.
This one.
This one?
No,
I'm, I'm psychologist
girlfriend.
Wow.
She know me.
She know me a lot.
So when, when I finish with Javi
and I was trying to find a new
partner, she was helping me.
And also with Theo, she know me so.
That's good.
How, how important is the
psychological part in, in this level?
The most important.
Really?
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because in this level everybody train
a lot, everybody work out a lot.
Everybody want to win.
So the, the psychology
part is the most important.
So what areas do you
think they need help in?
The psychology part, you know,
uh, is it just getting burnt out?
Um, staying focused.
What is it?
What is the,
it depends on the player.
Maybe for example, me, I need to be more
focused, like to be consistent or, or no?
Yeah.
So how do they help you with that?
We do like, uh, every week we
do sessions with the psychology
and we have like, like.
Exercise, like in paddle.
Okay.
We have exercising.
Like, eh, I have to read to be focused.
Eh, I have to think
of something when you feel this way.
Yeah, I
think, yeah.
I have to like, eh, be focused,
for example, in your, in your
backhand body, in your train.
So I have to be focused and then I have
to like, uh, how to say like, take note.
Yeah, take a note.
Take a note.
Uh, what did you do?
You listening?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we have like exercise,
we, we do meditation also.
We do many things.
You can train your mind.
So one issue that he has, okay.
It's no.
When he's playing with someone every time.
His partner makes a mistake.
He gives the face like, oh my God.
Oh
my God.
Oh my God.
That's my, okay, the first mistake.
Fine, second, third, fifth on.
Come on man.
You,
there are a lot of players
in Premier Pilot like you,
you know, like, come on,
come on.
So, but how do you, how
do you deal with that?
You know, he makes a few
mistakes and it is like.
I'm, I'm very calm, I
think with my partner.
I understand.
Be because I can do
the same the next vote.
So, but you don't do
that to, and that usually
happens and that usually happens too.
No,
I, to have a mistake, I, I,
I mean, I, I don't do that.
Never, or
no,
no.
You have to always try to support it.
To support your, your partner.
It will be better for you.
And also I think that.
I understand this here is you have to be
focused on you because if you play better
and you are happy and you yeah, kinda
like this, your partner will be better,
you more positive that that, that,
that energy has to be positive
sides.
You are one set up.
Serving five, four.
Yeah.
40, 30.
Match point of all up
here to win that match.
Your partner has it.
Don't worry.
He's the glass.
Don't worry.
It's okay.
Inside.
Inside that, that price money.
And that was a high price.
It depends on the price.
Money depends on the price.
Money, right?
Basically Competi, that's right.
That's good.
No, no.
In Premier, but no.
No.
For example, in, in a train,
I, I will get angry too much.
But in an official match, no, no, no.
Okay.
I would,
because at the end of the day,
you still wanna win and you
keep that positive energy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also you can have the same
mistake, the next ball, so Yeah.
Yeah.
Won't help you.
No, because it's golden
point.
Exactly.
The end.
Yeah.
He, he had it to win.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because if you are upset with
him, he might get the pressure,
he might lose, make a mistake.
So would you
say it is the highlight of your, so far,
of your professional career, like the
best moment of think before you speak?
Yeah.
When I met inside the court,
he's.
Four years ago I played with Cookie,
eh, war in Valencia, and we won.
And it was my first and the
only, uh, professional tournament
that I won and also with one of
my best friend is his cookie.
And that's one of my, I
think I remember that.
I remember that.
Who are you playing against?
Uh, we play against
Gonzalo and Ivan Ramirez.
Uh, we won very, very good matches.
And it was like a professional tournament.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you play a P two, nah.
So, so
tell us your, uh, and I'm sorry
it's savvy, but these things
that know, love it and all that.
So what is your routine before
a match and after a match?
What do you do before and after?
Yeah.
To prep.
Yeah.
I'd like to train a little
bit, like few hours before.
Uh, to touch the ball and to
get feelings with the court.
And then we are like
very calm in the room.
Like doing
what you do.
You eat anything specific?
Do you have any diet, diet, music?
We, I like to listen music and
to get like higher and happy.
Eh?
We try to eat, eh, rice
and fish or chicken.
No pasta and no meat.
And they went, I, I like to go to
the club like two or three hours.
That, that, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, because I want to like watch
a little bit the match before, how's
the court, how the people is playing.
And then like one hour before
I start to warm up, okay.
I have a routine, a psychology, a
mental routine with music and like, uh.
Trying to watch what can
happen in the So invasion.
Yeah.
And then I start the warm up at the gym.
Like I have always the same warm like.
Trying to be, uh, ready, active, stretch
at the, yeah, active, active stretching.
And then I like to go to the court to
feel a little bit more the, the, the
wall and feelings and to try to not
get nervous because sometimes you,
when you go to the court, there are
many people watching, um, uh, music and
it's not, it's difficult to be focused.
So if, if you train a little bit and
touch the ball, um, you can feel better
the once you start, when you start.
Yeah.
So, so you get a little nervous sometimes.
Everybody gets nervous sometimes,
but yeah, I guess with a lot of
people, best, best players know
how to, uh, and overcome that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And how do you say still?
Yeah, yeah.
Like to deal with it.
Yeah.
To deal, yeah.
Overcome and other people know, but.
You know, Nadal get nervous, but yeah,
maybe he's nervous, like one minute and
he's relaxing and he have like routine
with the bottles and something like
that so that everybody get nervous.
And after the match.
And after the match, eh,
obviously talk with Sari.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I always like to, he calls me, yeah,
to call Sari and talk a little bit
about the match because she know me
and she knows how I feel in the court.
Then, uh, we go to the physio.
Yeah.
And if we have cold plants,
we go to the cold plants.
And then we talk a little
bit with our coaches, like,
so do you do stretching?
Yeah.
Also stretching, but not too much.
If you play the next day, not too much.
Okay.
Only physio and little bit.
Um,
cold blanc is important.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like it.
I like it.
Recovery is very good.
Something important for you.
Man.
Never.
He's always like 10 minutes,
15 minutes before a match.
Never stretches.
Never
stretches and likes to eat
croissants before a match.
Oh, that's good.
That's good.
It's gonna the don't judge me
Good energy.
Good.
That's true.
That's true.
So Ari, we have for sec, tell me, tell
us, how do you, when that cold comes.
Right.
Uhhuh,
how do you, how do you deal?
What, what do you say to him?
So if he wins, obviously
everything's amazing.
No, but
she, if I win and I didn't do the right
things, you sometimes tell me like,
you can smash a little bit more, and
no, you could have done this,
this way, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If it's okay, it's okay.
And
um, so you
take notes, you make
No,
no.
Only when it's a bad shot.
No, no, just.
From what I remember from the match,
like I, I know him, so I know if
he's a little bit nervous or whatever
the case, so, and if he loses,
if he loses, I'm just like, sup.
Just very supportive at the beginning.
I don't say literally anything like about,
Hey, you should have done this or that.
No, no.
I'm just like, don't worry.
After, after,
maybe next day or a few hours
later we talk about the match.
Yeah.
But if he loses in that
moment, it's just like.
It's okay, keep going.
But I like it when we talk about
the match because she knows me,
so it help me for the next time.
How quickly do you recover
from a, from a, from a defeat?
Uh, after losing a match?
Maximum.
Depends.
It
depends.
It depends.
Sometimes it's hard facing the camera.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Sometimes it's, sometimes it's, it's
hard because I come back to the.
To the, to the club and
everybody's at the tournament.
I'm training alone and I'm thinking,
thinking, I don't like to, the thing when
I, when I lose on my level is not good.
I'm very sad.
I'm very sad because I think
I can do more, you know?
Yeah.
When I lose and I play good and
the other and the other was like,
better than me than you, it is, okay.
Don't worry.
I train.
I okay, you're better or you playing
better than me this day I. Do everything.
So when I lose and I'm not
playing, I didn't play good.
This, this, this tournament, I'm very
sad and it takes me two or three days.
And really, and what happened
if you, you felt good in the, you feel
good in the court, you played good, but
your partner wasn't there and that's why
you lost how you deal with that aspect.
No, it's okay.
Uh, for me it's okay because I'm
trying to be focused, but that, that
takes you shorter time to cover.
Yeah.
Too much.
No.
Yeah.
I'm not sad, so maybe a
little bit, but I'm not sad.
Not too much.
Yeah.
'cause I'm, I'm, I do the right
thing so I can do, I can't do more.
So it's, it's okaying.
I'm trying to help my partner these days.
Like, don't worry, we can train,
we can, we have more opportunities.
So
yeah.
You won't get mad on
things you can control.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
So what are the expectations
for having Baron and Sabrina
for this new season 2025?
Where are you guys going professionally
and you know, how, how, how's the pro?
I'm sure you as a professional, you
have the whole year projected, what are
you gonna do, what you gonna travel?
Okay.
Third 30 is, is going to grow a lot
because I always see Sarina working.
To be in, like in tournaments, in events.
She, she's trying to move
some close to Venezuela.
She's working a lot.
So I, I know, uh, that
is rain a lot, a lot.
Good.
Great.
And me, I would like to like continue
improvement level and if I work like
this, I think I want, I will be in the
top 20 close and for me it will be.
Very, very nice.
I'm trying to, yeah.
Alright.
Thanks coming you so much.
Congratulations on the thing.
Thank you.
Luck.
Thank.