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We record live from a ranch in Oklahoma, we talk Alabama executions with the great Liz Bruenig, and Jake unfortunately confuses Stephen Douglas and Frederick Douglas
0:00 - Open
20:30 - Viewer Mail
32:45 - Sports: Jerry speaks at the Senior Bowl
49:00 - Liz Bruenig
1:20:45 - News
1:33:30 - Today in History with Dominic Robinson
- (00:00) - Open
- (20:30) - Viewer Mail
- (32:45) - Sports: Jerry speaks at the Senior Bowl
- (49:00) - Liz Bruenig
- (01:20:45) - News
- (01:33:30) - Today in History with Dominic Robinson
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You spell that? You spell that? Hey, punk, son. Not the guys in the world smells like that. I love the smell of my pum in the morning.
Speaker 1:Smell. You know that gasoline smell. Oh, hell. Smells like victory.
Speaker 2:Happy Thursday, guys. It is Thursday, February 1st. When you are hearing this, well, I suppose that's the minimum day
Speaker 3:it could be. I never Right?
Speaker 2:You could listen to this anytime you want, but not before Thursday, February 1st. Although, we're recording it before.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We're recording it on business Wednesday.
Speaker 3:It's not something you have to explain Oh, really? In that level of detail.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'm good. I just wonder how like, if we're allowed to just say whatever we want on February 1st, but we literally set it on January 31st. How does that
Speaker 3:Yeah. I don't know because, I mean, that did come up in, court where we were, where they were asking us questions about
Speaker 2:Yeah. But you recorded this thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah. We're like, yeah, but we didn't release it. Asshole. Woah.
Speaker 2:Woah. Okay.
Speaker 3:Hey. Sorry. Gigi's here. My bad. My bad.
Speaker 3:My bad. We don't
Speaker 4:need to talk like that.
Speaker 3:Okay. My bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's not that we're worried about those listening. Worried about Gigi. Worried about Gigi. And, Gigi, is that your real name?
Speaker 3:That's there's there's no no. That's that's not a real name.
Speaker 2:It's not a real name? No.
Speaker 3:Okay. That's what my
Speaker 2:Does it mean great grandma?
Speaker 3:Yeah. That's what,
Speaker 2:You're not old enough to be a great grandma. Grandma. Yeah. Okay. Because we had a Gigi that was great grandma.
Speaker 2:Or at least my cousins called her Gigi, and I never put it together until, took me a while. She was our she was our great grand.
Speaker 3:I think I can say this because I don't think that they listen, but, my my, my mother-in-law goes by Gigi for the kids. And my father-in-law goes by Saba, which is actually the Hebrew term for, grandfather because he's super stoked on Israel.
Speaker 2:Okay. Does he he does not wanna cease fire?
Speaker 3:I don't think so. No. I think he wants to He must keep rolling. Promote fire. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. They've they've actually been to Israel multiple times. Okay. Yeah. So Saba is the, the Hebrew term for grandfather.
Speaker 2:Is that on your bucket list? Go to Israel?
Speaker 3:You know what? It's actually beautiful. It actually is, but they didn't actually go there for, like, to go see the beautiful parts. They went there to go see, like, the wall. The
Speaker 2:wall? Yeah. I'm not familiar with the Israel wall.
Speaker 3:Okay. Well, that's the cradle of civilization. So Alright. Go on. It's where Christ was born.
Speaker 2:So you say
Speaker 3:Okay. Well no. Like, literally, that's where he was born.
Speaker 2:Okay. But and there's a wall there? Why would they build a wall? A wall. Yeah.
Speaker 2:There's there's I thought Christ was welcoming and he wouldn't wanna put up a wall.
Speaker 3:It's it's not that type of wall.
Speaker 4:Oh. Mexico.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's like a Yahwal. These people
Speaker 3:put on Yahwal.
Speaker 2:Yeah. They visited and put her photo on there.
Speaker 3:Yeah. With like, in a bathing suit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just because That's
Speaker 3:exactly what it is.
Speaker 2:Even if you're from Israel, it's a little strange now and again. You know that?
Speaker 3:No doubt.
Speaker 2:To look around. Well, we are not, based on I think there's some context clues here. You you say, well, why is there, somebody's grandma, in the Dragon Den? Why are they with you high atop Dan's garage?
Speaker 3:We're not not.
Speaker 2:No. We're not high atop my garage.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:They're not. We're not. Yep. Hell, we're not even in Texas.
Speaker 3:No doubt.
Speaker 2:We're somewhere called Oklahoma. Yeah. And we are on, our little remote tour. People have been booking some remotes.
Speaker 3:By the way, I just wanna, like, bang a quick 20. Yeah. The Western Wall has a 4.7 Google review rating. Like, who's doing that?
Speaker 2:Somebody's like, is it like the gum wall in Seattle?
Speaker 3:You know, I haven't seen that.
Speaker 2:You've never seen the gum wall? I've never been to Seattle. That's surprising to me.
Speaker 3:I know.
Speaker 2:I think you'd love it. Thanks. Isn't that weird when people say that? Like, you would love it. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:I always feel bad doing that too. Like, we have a guest on later that will relate to this, but, Matt Brunig Mhmm. You know who he is and and the way he is. Good friend of ours and, just one of the dream teamers, an all time dream team lawyer. Yep.
Speaker 2:For all your labor law needs, we suggest Matt Brunig. That's right. But I was telling him that he had to watch Nathan for you. Like, you need you have to especially and and really, it is kind of like Nathan's very much like Nat Matt Brunig. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And, he's like, well, I don't watch it. And I'm like, you have to. You have and and then thought, what am I I'm making this guy, like, who am I to say, you've got to devote 30 hours of your life to, this show Yeah. To watch all the episodes. Because, he should, but I should just, like, recommend it and then leave it at that instead of, like, be that pushy guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And I'm gonna make him go to France.
Speaker 3:So The same kind of applies to us being pushy about, really good at that. Like, I would suggest if you get yourself into a legal bind, find an autistic lawyer. Okay.
Speaker 2:I never knew that before.
Speaker 3:They're unrelenting. Yeah. But When you drop that, It's up to you. You drop
Speaker 2:that thing of toothpicks on the ground and he kinda He cowled him immediately. Yeah. We took him to Vegas with us. Yeah.
Speaker 3:It was great. Counting cards. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, because we, you know, we need income. Sure. So
Speaker 3:He's very good at that.
Speaker 2:Take your lawyer to to Vegas, sweetie.
Speaker 3:But we are not in Texas. We are not in the Dragons Den.
Speaker 2:No. And I was telling someone I was telling a friend of mine I, was talking to on the drive up here. I said, we're on our way to Oklahoma. We're doing, the 6 90 roadshow and blah blah blah. And then, when he signed off the phone call, he said, well, hey.
Speaker 2:Remember, stop at the on your way back, stop at the border and rinse off.
Speaker 3:Okay. Yeah. Get the Oklahoma off you? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And I I said that's not funny. I'm gonna talk to our native Oklahomans here or the people that, invited us. So the people that invited us That's
Speaker 3:what keeps Texas from falling
Speaker 2:the ocean. The people that invited us are,
Speaker 3:very Oklahoma sucks.
Speaker 2:Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 4:Caitlin like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We should mention we're also on the vid today. If if you're listening to us and you're saying, hey. What what what's the scene look like? Well, we have a hot video guy.
Speaker 2:We traded out normal video guy.
Speaker 3:Upgrade.
Speaker 2:Who's been, with us for the past 5 or 6 videos in a row. And we, yeah. We needed some beefcake on camera today. No doubt. And so, that is Michael
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Who the ladies love, the guys love. Everybody loves Michael. And, Yeah. He obviously, set us all up here. So this is, video number 2 this week.
Speaker 2:Isn't that weird? Are you allowed to do 2 videos in
Speaker 3:a week, Jake? Perhaps you are on February 1.
Speaker 2:Very, very interesting.
Speaker 3:Are you just eating beef jerky?
Speaker 4:So on brand.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's how you
Speaker 3:get caked out.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's how you build that build that body.
Speaker 3:So where are we, Dan? We're at
Speaker 2:the I guess I don't wanna diminish him by just calling him somebody else's, father-in-law. Right? This is, this is the abode of the great Cary Mounts.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:Cary Mounts is a, guy we've known for a long time. Well, he's known us for quite some time. We haven't known him for as long, but we then got to know him because, we met a guy named Dominic Robinson. I did, when I went to visit Clemson years ago to see my daughter in the marching band. And, Dominic Robinson DM'd me on Twitter.
Speaker 2:He, and then I didn't know who he was, and he just said, you wanna hook up? I can get you on the field at Clemson. And I thought, oh, okay. That'll be cool. So I end up meeting him.
Speaker 2:The long very long good story, but short, is that, met him and his son, Deuce, who it turned out Deuce was a junior in high school at the time, but a, 5 star prospect. Would you call him a 5 star prospect?
Speaker 3:I think most
Speaker 2:How many stars
Speaker 3:rating services would call him that. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 2:That's as many as you can get.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Correct.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. Whatever the amount of stars you're allowed to get Yeah. He he had all of them. Yeah. And, we actually went and met with Dabo Sweeney in his office as he's shaking hands.
Speaker 2:And I met him Dabo and his wife, and he's gave us the pitch on, going to Clemson. And I had just met Dominic and Deuce, you know, minutes earlier, and he's like, oh, this is Debo. This is my friend, Danny. Hey, Dan. He's he's great.
Speaker 2:I'm ready to play for for, Clemson. Dominic was or, Deuce was not. He ended up, of course, going to USC.
Speaker 3:Sure.
Speaker 2:And he probably would have gone to Oklahoma had Lincoln Riley stayed there. Yeah. And, anyway, so yeah. His grandpa is Carrie. We've gotten to know his his uncles as well, uncle Paulie and uncle Nick.
Speaker 3:There you go. Both cracked open the dommy lights. And, yeah.
Speaker 2:12:30 today. So we're at Carrie Mount's ranch. Yes. There's cows. There's land.
Speaker 2:Lots of land.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of land.
Speaker 2:Starry skies above.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And I hope I I hope I don't offend anybody by saying this because we're probably gonna have to be here for, like, 3 more hours. But what Carrie did was the most amazing thing you could possibly pull off, which is just having your daughter marry a super athletic black guy.
Speaker 2:Interesting. Why would you have to put the race in? Couldn't it just be a super athletic guy? What if your daughter married Luca?
Speaker 3:Well, there aren't That'd be
Speaker 2:pretty sweet.
Speaker 3:They're, like that's, like, a 90 10 split.
Speaker 2:Interesting. Yeah. Alright.
Speaker 3:So, like, he's Like, what if she married? His retirement is basically paid for. Like, the kid What if your daughter The kid is gonna go in the first round.
Speaker 2:Pudge is, like, 60 and he ends up marrying your daughter.
Speaker 3:When she's, like, 18?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Are you on board? Yeah. Probably. Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's posh.
Speaker 3:I would rather it be Dominic. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well, I've got one of my daughters is probably, got her eye on Deuce because they're more of the the same age.
Speaker 3:Okay. Yeah. Good luck with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. No. Well, she moved on from Bronnie, if you remember. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You were previously trying to hook her up with Bronnie.
Speaker 2:She used to be after Bronnie and
Speaker 3:Yeah. Then he got the Vex.
Speaker 2:The heart thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know how how stable that's going to be. Plus, why a one sports star?
Speaker 3:Yeah. No. Why would you wanna do that?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Deuce When you could go to? Deuce obvious was also in that Clemson trip. After the game, we hopped in a golf cart, went over to the baseball field where the baseball coach gave the full court press on, hey, why don't you come play here? And look at all these former major current major leaguers who went Yeah.
Speaker 3:For sure. And I know we've said this before, but, like, he is legitimately, like, the most grown up kid I've ever met in my life. Like, he is so
Speaker 2:grown up than anyone sitting here right now.
Speaker 3:A 100%. All 4 of us.
Speaker 2:I don't even understand him.
Speaker 3:He is, like, the most mature, just nicest, kindest dude that is 66 and 240.
Speaker 2:And I've asked Dominic too, like, okay. Because my daughters also can present like, Ava, for instance. Yeah. When she comes over to babysit, don't you feel she's very mature?
Speaker 3:Way different than she is whenever she's trashing
Speaker 2:me That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:On my back. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But then, like, it's like, I remember we went over there once. Was it dinner? No. But a baby birthday, something
Speaker 3:like that. We gave
Speaker 2:a and then once she got in the car, she's like, oh, finally. I can just say stuff. And then she started going nuts. Yeah. And I'm like, woah.
Speaker 2:Woah. And does does Deuce do that?
Speaker 3:It doesn't seem like it.
Speaker 2:No. That's what Dominic said. He's like, no. Even on, like, when we
Speaker 3:Shout out to Gary.
Speaker 2:You think that's, genes?
Speaker 3:I don't know. I mean, people raise
Speaker 2:you right. That's that's a cool thing. You're blaming me then for my daughters.
Speaker 3:I and I am also blaming my grandparents and my parents. For me. Yeah. Yeah. But he's he just seems awesome.
Speaker 2:Let's give it to,
Speaker 3:Rathman.
Speaker 2:To the Mount's family, and we'll give it to Rathman. And, Yeah. So on today's program, we do have some sports for you. This is Jake's last official day of the week because he's got a day off tomorrow. Tomorrow, which is Friday.
Speaker 2:Everyone, remember? Friday is tomorrow. Yeah. Today is Thursday.
Speaker 3:Like I told you guys yesterday, like, this is easily the trip that I have been the less the least prepared for in my life because I didn't plan it.
Speaker 2:Is it with the wife? No. Oh, okay. So because your wife plans a lot of your trips when you go with her, but if it's the boys, you always plan.
Speaker 3:Correct. Yeah. She plans, like, international. I typically plan the boys. But this one, I was just like, I yeah.
Speaker 3:I'll go. You know? Whatever. Well,
Speaker 2:I thought part of that
Speaker 3:was showed up on me.
Speaker 2:I thought part of that was, like, you liked you want what you want. Exactly. It's kinda like I will go I'll go do the shopping. Not because I'm really cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's because I want certain things and you will buy, like, the not name brand or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I, I get very upset when the boys buy, like, Totino's. I'm like, you know, for $3 more.
Speaker 2:The pizza roll? You don't like those?
Speaker 3:The Totino's pizza is not good.
Speaker 2:Oh, the the pizza pizza.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Not the pizza rolls. Dude. I like the Totino's pizza
Speaker 4:rolls. Is Greg going?
Speaker 3:No. This is not a Greg thing. Prankster Greg trip.
Speaker 4:I love him.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And I don't even I don't even know if I can still snowboard at all.
Speaker 4:Oh, you're a snowboarder.
Speaker 3:Why'd you say it like Christopher Walken? Snowboarder.
Speaker 4:I don't know. I I you said skiing trips. I guess I just assumed you're skiing. No. Snowboarding's harder.
Speaker 3:No. It's not. That's what I've heard. I can't ski.
Speaker 2:You know, it's the easiest is sledding. Yeah. You can sit on it.
Speaker 4:You just sit there.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And then crash into a tree or something. I've never snowboarded. I
Speaker 3:have to you both saying it's so weird? We're just
Speaker 4:saying emphasis on the snow.
Speaker 2:I have a I've, of course, used to ski at, you know, Holiday Valley and
Speaker 3:Yeah. What's it with pops?
Speaker 2:Boston Mills.
Speaker 3:With your father who doesn't want you.
Speaker 4:I thought about ski club a lot yesterday.
Speaker 3:Yeah. No. I'm with you. I think a lot of people did.
Speaker 2:Ski club.
Speaker 4:You just you being in ski club. That's just really weird.
Speaker 3:Yeah. No. I mean, because you kinda, like, try to put off this whole, like, I grew up poor.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Grew up, like, Ohio.
Speaker 3:Latchkey kid. Nothing is given in my dad's Ohio. Didn't yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, those things are all true.
Speaker 3:Yeah. But you were in ski club.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah. But I wasn't doing anything else.
Speaker 3:Okay. Well, that's a pretty good start.
Speaker 2:Okay. Well, it it certainly was not a break the bank type of thing. I didn't say I grew up poor, but we certainly didn't, you know it was a different time, Jake.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Poor meant something different.
Speaker 3:I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 2:But, yes, I certainly did have a lot of dads. And not them not them want anything to do with me now. You know Thanks. No grandpas. No grandpas.
Speaker 2:No dads. Yeah.
Speaker 3:But go ahead. Just keep Okay. Yeah. My daughter would know yours. You know what is kind of weird though?
Speaker 3:It's it's kind of weird that as famous as you've gotten Thank you. None of them reached out.
Speaker 2:Like, biological dad? Like, hey. I think I need to get more famous. In that way, you're kinda like LeBron. For biological dad to reach out.
Speaker 3:Like, you never hear anything about LeBron's debt. You see what I hear? I mean, he was definitely alive at the beginning.
Speaker 2:Because I'm aware of the Shaqdad situation. Are you?
Speaker 3:Somewhat. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That he was He was actually raised by his stepdad. Correct. And once he
Speaker 3:became Shaq in the military or something. Right?
Speaker 2:Then his real dad did reach out, like, oh, Shaq, you're in LSU. You're, hey. Like the backboards? Yeah. And then and he didn't want anything to do with him, I think.
Speaker 3:And that's what I'm saying is that, like, you're famous and your dad
Speaker 2:is still never Well, maybe this whole podcast thing will help.
Speaker 4:Yeah. You're on YouTube now.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We're on you. Hey. Did you see, little, listener response? It said we're, like, moving up the rankings on the Apple Podcasts.
Speaker 3:Have you seen that? I did see that. Yeah. That's huge. How?
Speaker 2:I don't know. Like, I guess people are loading it up.
Speaker 3:That's how is that
Speaker 4:That's cool.
Speaker 3:Loading it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So if you, if you want to support your boys, like, now I realize why people say, hey, like and subscribe.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like it's always like, yeah, whatever, man. But apparently that does help us in some way. Yeah. If you actually subscribe. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now I don't have to tell you that don't need to listen to every second, but subscribing is great. Subscribing and downloading is it it helps the numbers.
Speaker 4:Yeah. According to Ginny, we're top 16 already. Right behind first take.
Speaker 2:Okay. Well, let's get some hotter opinions and maybe we'll get the we can join that. Yeah. Yeah. Fire McCarthy.
Speaker 2:The Cowboys will never win.
Speaker 3:You don't even have a you're the cat that just got out of the house.
Speaker 2:With Yeah. I'm just thinking of reasons, but I can't because they will win. They're gonna win big. In fact, I think that's part of our program today because I believe Jerry made some declarations. Also, part of our program today will be we're gonna check-in with Dominic Robinson.
Speaker 2:He of Deuce Robinson fame.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And he's in Hawaii right now. And we're also have a guest booked to talk about, some real life news stuff. Liz Breunig. But I have this, if you care.
Speaker 3:Just a little. Buddy, it's time to answer some of
Speaker 2:today's viewer mail. Let's see what we got here. Got a bunch of birthdays. Let's see. From Josh, I've stood it's my birthday.
Speaker 2:I've stood near Jake while he smokes cigarettes.
Speaker 3:Another one, Blake. Maybe this is good amount
Speaker 2:good enough for a shout out.
Speaker 4:But Jake didn't smoke a cigarette with him.
Speaker 2:No. But he was near Jake, and they were both smoking cigarettes. Okay. Don't you feel like
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 2:You're speaking spirits in that way?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. I do.
Speaker 2:He said, more importantly, Blake's, based on Blake's analytics note, I think there's a good chance I'm the listener who lives closest to Nebraska. I live in Colorado. If there's a, Nebraska sized hole in your listener map a week from now, I'll make the drive out there to download your show just so you all can close that box out. That's Josh.
Speaker 3:That would be big.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And I think that's very nice, except I got plenty of other emails saying, hey, wait. I live in Nebraska. I'm loading you guys up.
Speaker 3:What's going on?
Speaker 2:What's up with these analytics?
Speaker 4:I think those are Patreon subscribers that have not watched a YouTube video in Nebraska.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:You were basing it all on YouTube then?
Speaker 4:Yeah. Those were the analytics I was talking about.
Speaker 2:Okay. Because we have a lot of well, now we have the Apple Podcast platform and we have the
Speaker 4:Spotify. And it's it's overcast.
Speaker 3:We're so bad at this.
Speaker 2:Austin Pryor, long time listener, first time emailer, age 35, leaders Tommy Maddox, Blake Cantu.
Speaker 3:Tommy Maddox, LD Bell. Blake Cantu transferred from LD Bell to Southlake Carroll.
Speaker 4:How do you know this?
Speaker 2:And Marshall Henderson. Marshall Henderson, LD Bell. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I know this because I grew up in the mid cities.
Speaker 2:Request Blake to figure out my subscriber number. I signed up after the Akash episode where he said something that wound up in court. That did happen. Yeah. He also wants you to figure out Tyler Sagin's war and have inner sport war games with Jackie Robinson, Ernie Banks, and Nolan Ryan.
Speaker 3:That's a really weird really weird request.
Speaker 2:Austin Pryor.
Speaker 3:Tommy Maddox. You met him, didn't you? I believe so.
Speaker 2:Yeah. He's been a guest.
Speaker 3:Started a, Super Bowl. Did he really? I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm gonna call foul on that. I I'm saying Tommy Maddox did not start a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3:Was it Neil O'Donnell?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That sounds better.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:But you said it was really good. He had
Speaker 3:a nice little career though.
Speaker 4:We'll we'll take your word for it.
Speaker 2:Day 1 DF. I'd be honored if you wish my wife I think he, has a typo, Michelle Person, but, his name is Peterson. So Michelle Peterson, happy birthday.
Speaker 3:K.
Speaker 2:I would have waken her up in that special way, but alas, I am not a Red Wings fan.
Speaker 3:Good god.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Gallery like that.
Speaker 3:The gallery did like that.
Speaker 4:We still don't have a view in Nebraska.
Speaker 3:My goodness.
Speaker 2:She listens when I have her trapped in my car. She pretends to be annoyed by the presentation, but seems to be engaged in enjoying it while crushing candy. Her leader is Jake's pegging kit.
Speaker 3:I don't I I don't have a kid. So
Speaker 2:And Blake's wife torquing that nipple ring out mid bang from Michael Peterson.
Speaker 4:Some of that's right.
Speaker 3:Some of it. Not all of it, but some of it.
Speaker 2:Oh, here's one that's not a birthday. Dear Dan, let Jake know he is 100% spot on about UT not being ready for the rough and tumble SEC as evidenced by what happened to them earlier this year when they went on the road to Alabama and got slapped around so hard that they won by double digits. LOL. We get that the horns down thing is dumb, but let's not pretend they're SMU or something from Matt. Okay, Matt.
Speaker 2:Email us in a year
Speaker 3:when you're 6 and 6.
Speaker 2:It means he has to just subscribe for another year. So I like that. I like that.
Speaker 3:That's exactly what I was doing. Yeah.
Speaker 4:So I mentioned yesterday that, Brian Hendrickson Venmoed us to get around some of the Patreon fees. Okay. And that opened the floodgates. So we've had a lot of subscribers Venmo us for various things. Oh,
Speaker 3:is it like when Ham used to Venmo me $1 on my birthday? For a
Speaker 2:corn dog?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Jeff Venmoed us $10 for pizza Friday.
Speaker 2:Okay. Fresh. Fresh.
Speaker 4:Aaron sent us, some money for some coffee, $5 for some coffee, and, Nathan Brown sent us a dollar.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Okay. It's pretty good.
Speaker 2:I got an email that somebody PayPaled us something, but we don't have a PayPal.
Speaker 4:Yeah. We have to we'll have to figure out PayPal.
Speaker 2:But how would you have PayPaled us if we don't have it? Do you just put in someone's email?
Speaker 4:Probably.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Maybe I'll just pocket that then.
Speaker 4:That's fun. I've had some funds roll in. Ethan Levins, $50. Arthur bravo, 7
Speaker 3:We're living it up.
Speaker 4:But all that's safe. Thank you for the Venmo's.
Speaker 3:Tommy Maddox did go 73, and 1 and, 2002, so I wasn't totally wrong.
Speaker 2:You're gonna die on this hill? The Tommy Maddox hill?
Speaker 3:I mean, probably the most successful quarterback from the DFW Metroplex. Who else would it be? Gallery?
Speaker 2:From Stafford. Stafford. Yeah. That's a good one.
Speaker 3:But outside of that? Baker? He's from Austin.
Speaker 2:Alright. Well Hey. Thanks. Great point, Jake. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know that it was in in in the end. Do you have any other, things you wanna empty from the bag before we slide into cowboy? We do have cowboy of the day.
Speaker 3:Not really. I did want to tell you, a brief story. I don't know if I try to not be, like, too much kids story guy because I think it's annoying to people. But we gave my daughter a piggy bank. You know, it's just a little whatever.
Speaker 3:You you're probably fairly
Speaker 2:Yes. Feels like an antiquated notion in this day and age.
Speaker 3:You don't because you don't have coins.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I used to have my daughters
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Roll my change and
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That would that would be a thing we do together and I give them a a cut.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And yeah. Now when would they get a coin?
Speaker 3:Don't know. But, looked in there, 2 nights ago, and there was a $20 bill.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:And, you know, we said, where'd you get that? And she said, I took it out of Tad's wallet.
Speaker 2:Okay. She's about the exact same age as little Eden when she did that, like, took, a 5 from her sister's stash or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And
Speaker 2:we did the exact same thing and kinda had to explain to her. Well, no. You just I was
Speaker 3:like, well, you stole from me. You know? And and here's the weird part about it. I have, like, $80 in my wallet. I rarely have cash, but I just, for some reason, like, I don't know if it was
Speaker 2:Strip club night. Strip club night. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And she knew to just take 1.20. Just put it in the bank.
Speaker 2:Like, he won't notice if there's one gone.
Speaker 3:I guess so. I was like, babe, where'd you get that? She's like, I took it from your wallet. Okay. So we had to have a conversation about, the concept of theft.
Speaker 2:Yeah. No. I remember because my daughter was, like, almost crying when we told her, like, it was wrong. Yeah. And I'm like, look.
Speaker 2:I'm just trying we're just explaining it. It's not because it's just the weird thing is it's a little piece of paper.
Speaker 3:I know. Right? Yeah. Like, explaining the concept of money. Why is that piece of paper?
Speaker 3:Forky tries to do I don't know if you're in the Forky Toy Story area.
Speaker 4:Forky?
Speaker 3:Forky's from, I think, Toy Story 3? 4? Gallery doesn't know.
Speaker 2:Why is that piece of paper different than this piece of paper?
Speaker 3:Exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, no. It's because that says a 100.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, really? She just So I can get more stuff with it?
Speaker 3:Lifted it, put it in her bank, and I was like I'm like, where'd you get this? She's like, I took it from you.
Speaker 2:And, because there's nothing in that piggy bank.
Speaker 3:There was nothing else in there. No.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like, hey. Well, you gave me a piggy bank, and you gave me nothing. I need something to put in it.
Speaker 3:Right. So why don't I just steal it from you?
Speaker 2:I wonder if there's, I wonder because remember we used to do we did a segment before on the eradication of the penny. Like, why don't we just get rid of it? Yeah. Yet, it's so important to the economy for some reason. I wonder if it's still the case.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That's a good that was, like, 10 years ago, so I don't really know, but I would imagine that we are approaching the point where the production of the penny is worth less than The penny. The penny. Yeah. Yeah, dude.
Speaker 3:We are in a, we are in a a a serious inflection point on the disciplining the child point. What does that mean? Yeah. I think, you know, and I I don't wanna get, like, too specific because I don't wanna, like, blow my wife's spot up or anything, but I think you and I are both, like, guys who, we've we've punched holes in walls. Yeah.
Speaker 3:When our moms were yelling at us, and
Speaker 2:I'm just like, dude, we just can't get mad at the kid. And and we're like, that's so, yeah, that's a, to me, that's a when you hear about let's just say you can get really dark with a a cycle of abuse or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. But they they were abused and that's it.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Somehow, I'm gone. Was like nature nurture. I have no idea.
Speaker 2:I don't know. But I've gone away. I don't understand that because I think, man, if that happened to you, wouldn't you wanna be sure not to act like that because you hated it?
Speaker 3:Yeah. I just I can't But
Speaker 2:maybe it's also learn to be Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't know. So But it's just Yeah. She's she's she's tough, and I just don't wanna get mad at her, like, ever. Even when she steals $20 from my wallet. Yeah.
Speaker 3:In her bank account.
Speaker 2:Because, yeah, her her her brain is Her yeah. Kids are idiot. They literally are. They're they're not smart.
Speaker 3:They are the dumbest people on earth.
Speaker 2:Yes. Like, when you're teaching them 3+7, you should understand. They're they're not smart.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They don't know anything. No. They're, morons.
Speaker 3:Like, imagine how dumb I am and how dumb you are, and then, like, make it, like, 5% of that smart.
Speaker 2:Right. Yeah. We're, like to them, we're Einstein. Yeah. Which is why it it sucks when they get older and they kinda realize you're a fraud.
Speaker 2:You know?
Speaker 3:It's like very true.
Speaker 2:This is the person I've been
Speaker 3:Respecting my wife. Yeah. I shouldn't do that. Look at this dumbass.
Speaker 2:These guys are loving it. Yeah. Alright. So we have some Jerry stuff. We do.
Speaker 2:And I'm not the one with that stuff, so I don't know what you guys have.
Speaker 4:Do you wanna set it up? Or this is from the Senior Bowl. I had no idea why he was even talking.
Speaker 3:I don't think it's a Senior Bowl. I think it's the thing you're doing.
Speaker 4:No. It it's at the at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 3:Is it? Yeah. Because the East West Shrine Bowl is tomorrow.
Speaker 4:In Frisco.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And I I thought that's what this was.
Speaker 4:Oh, I thought I saw a little
Speaker 3:Way to be on top of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah. How are we doing on so far on this segment?
Speaker 4:Not great.
Speaker 3:It's from the East West Shrine Bowl. Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, which makes sense. He's making a little FaceTime there. Right?
Speaker 3:Yeah. And he does this every year. The Senior Bowl is where he does the bus. K. You know?
Speaker 3:But it's a weird time because, like, this is I I don't remember him talking after the Green Bay loss. Do you guys?
Speaker 4:Yeah. He did.
Speaker 3:Did we play it?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Because he quickly said, I'm not real. We're gonna talk. I don't have any problems with my coach. We're gonna talk, like, right after the game.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Well, this is definitely the first time that he's talked since, they put out the announcement that McCarthy's gonna be back. Right. Yeah. So, we'll just play a little bit of this.
Speaker 3:It's Jerry, and he looks so old.
Speaker 2:Well, he is 80 something.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Which, I mean He's pretty might as well be president. Right? So I'll play a little bit of this.
Speaker 6:Well, I'm, I know how to disrupt, and I understand disruption. And, I think that, the nature of what we do with our roster decisions, the fact that we're here, looking at, help, if you will, for this coming year.
Speaker 3:How do you feel like this is going so far? Do you feel like he said anything at all in these first 25 seconds?
Speaker 2:I love it. But yeah. No. Senior bowl.
Speaker 6:The fact that we have free agency opportunities, the fact that
Speaker 2:He did senior bowl.
Speaker 3:He did say senior bowl.
Speaker 6:Really, of, substitute decisions to make on our roster as it pertains to particularly influenced by the salary cap. That's enough disruption for me. If I if I we get through all of those decisions, there'll be a lot of disruption.
Speaker 3:What does any of that mean? And, yeah, the senior boy is this Saturday. The East West Shrine is, quote, unquote, today.
Speaker 4:Is is he saying that there will be a lot of changes in the roster because of the salary cap?
Speaker 3:Well, the weirdest part about it is, like, they're going to bring back every single person that they have that they wanna sign outside of, like, maybe Pollard. So what are the big changes you're gonna make? This team is gonna look exactly the same next year as it does right now. Like, what are
Speaker 2:the big free agents on the market anyway? Well, I guess there is, like There's
Speaker 3:like some defensive linemen that you could possibly go look at, but you're not gonna have any cap room because you're gonna make CD the highest paid wide receiver. You're gonna make Micah the highest paid edge rusher. You've already made
Speaker 2:yet. Micah is not up this year, is
Speaker 3:he? No. But they'll do that this off season. If not this off season, the next, and, you know, they have to plan ahead for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But when you do that, don't you backload those contracts and then that's your low.
Speaker 3:For extending DAC. Right?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Because there is, like, talk of and I don't know. It's all smoke, but Stefon Diggs not happy. Could you make some kind of a deal and you end up getting adding Stephon Diggs to this thing? That certainly would be a disruption.
Speaker 3:Is that gonna help you?
Speaker 2:Yeah. If you had Stefon Diggs on this team and not Michael Gallup, but everything else was the same, that wouldn't help you?
Speaker 3:Man, I feel like if if if he wants to come tackle the other team's running back, that would help.
Speaker 2:Okay. So that's what you're more concerned with? They were down. They didn't have any points at did they have any points before halftime?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because they have 27.7. Right? Okay. They got one, the Ferg. Here he is, on McCarthy.
Speaker 6:Well, no. No. Not necessarily. But, certainly, he is in the final year of his contract. So he's under contract, so we didn't have to really do anything at all.
Speaker 6:And, the idea of, renewing a contract, doesn't necessarily happen at all, right after the last game. It can happen at any time. And so, that's kind of a wrong signal to send that there's not, more future than just this year, in the, pictures. So I think that's, that's the case. I think I'm comfortable doing it this way.
Speaker 6:I know, Mike is comfortable doing it this way.
Speaker 3:I bet he's not.
Speaker 2:I bet he is because let's say, Mike McCarthy lost his job. He is going to be highly sought after. He just won 12 games in, 3 years in a row. I bet Mike McCarthy is quite comfortable. Alright.
Speaker 2:I'll go into this last year. It's not like I need this to, you know, it's not like I Kliff Kingsbury or something somewhere trying to just well, let me get that extension. That'll be great. That way I'll know I'll be here. Like, he's he's fine, and he might not mind leaving.
Speaker 3:That's probably the best point. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it was funny just how he was wording that, like, oh, it's it's not the best thing to do it like this, but we're doing it like this.
Speaker 3:And, like, multiple times they signed Jason Garrett ahead of the time when his contract was supposed to run out. Did they?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Okay. Because I know, obviously, at the end, they didn't fire him. They just let his contract run.
Speaker 3:Yeah. They they melted him.
Speaker 2:Okay. I didn't know if they
Speaker 3:Or he's like, yeah. I'm just in the basement.
Speaker 2:I didn't realize they extended him. They did. I know they do. Players. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Way too early until it was Dexter.
Speaker 3:Speaking of deck.
Speaker 6:Well, I think, you can look on all three phases, and see that, we've got room for improvement. We did some good things. I'm gonna be, generic when I say this, but, we need to run the ball better. We need to stop the run better. I like the way that, I thought Dak was excellent in his passing this year.
Speaker 3:That's his job. Yeah. That's that's his job. He's the quarterback.
Speaker 6:I thought he made great decisions, relative to as to, of when he did decide to use his legs. So, there were a lot of pluses, in that area. Do we have room to improve it with the receiving routes, running game.
Speaker 2:Okay. The routes could be better.
Speaker 3:In the running game?
Speaker 2:Let me show you an example. Let me just get down here, and I'm gonna I'm gonna run you a crisp route.
Speaker 3:And you do that? Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then you cover me.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Alright. Here, Kalashaw. Come here. Cover me.
Speaker 6:Do we have room to improve? It would say, receiving routes, running games, blocking schemes, all of that we can improve upon. But the big thing is, we all know there's room for improvement. But, the thing that I would emphasize more than anything is that, Dak has room for improvement. And not just the scheme around him, but Dak, Dak can improve.
Speaker 6:That's a big plus when you've been playing the game 7 years and you've, by assessment, have some, room to get better in. He did this year. I expect him to do it next year and the next year.
Speaker 2:Okay. Is that a big plus? Is it a big plus if you're saying that's a fairly big plus if a guy's played for 7 years and you're like, boy, you're not really as good as I think you could be. Yeah. You're 30.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like
Speaker 3:All that is right there is just negotiating.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:All that is is saying, like, you're not good enough. So we're not gonna pay you like you're good enough. At least to me, that's the way it reads.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, and
Speaker 2:you know how that ends up working out. You just pay him. Yeah. He's You just pay him. Because they would love I mean, they gotta he did great with his, representation.
Speaker 3:He did. Todd France has done a phenomenal job.
Speaker 4:But at the beginning part of that clip, I think Jerry likes to play catch up a little bit. You remember he was trying to do the 2 tight end thing when New England had been doing it for a little bit. Yeah. I think he sees Detroit and San Francisco. Well, they like to run the ball.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Let's run the ball better.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well, that's what they entered this season saying they were gonna do.
Speaker 3:But it's just the last thing he saw.
Speaker 4:Yeah. But
Speaker 3:He he he he's he's ultimately just the type of negotiator and the type of businessman. And, look, he's been extremely successful, But he's just, like, the type of guy who, like, the last person who told him something cool, he's like, that's it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yes. And that's been since I've been here Yeah. Watching the team closely
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think I remember it with it's kind of like the, Michael Irvin stuff happened. You know, the hookers and cocaine, that that stuff. Yeah. That that part. And it was Randy Moss.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I don't want to draft Randy Moss. Yeah. And then Randy Moss is great. And then it's like, okay.
Speaker 2:You know what? I'll draft Dez. I don't care. Like like, it's just whatever the latest thing is.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I I agree with that. Yeah. You get you see some teams getting to the Super Bowl with a good running game. You know, unless I can get them a homes, and I can't.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Alright. Last one here before we go to, some serious talk.
Speaker 6:Dak has done nothing to change my mind Okay. Of any, promise for the future. I think I said
Speaker 3:in the deal that we'd go as far as DACC, Texas Right.
Speaker 6:In the playoffs. Remember that? Right.
Speaker 3:Remember that? How do you as far as DACC, Texas. Right. How do
Speaker 2:you feel you played?
Speaker 3:And that's how far we went. Right. So Okay. So my point is that's doesn't change a thing.
Speaker 6:Okay. We're gonna go as far as Dac, Texas. Okay.
Speaker 2:How do you feel he played against Green Bay? You may have just said it there, but how how do you feel he performed against Packers?
Speaker 6:Well, I think that, we,
Speaker 3:as a team, laid an egg. And that's not, specifically, I will say it and respond that way. And, you could start here, and I'm not trying to be magnanimous or anything.
Speaker 6:But you can start here and you can go all the
Speaker 3:way down the line, that was a, that was a bad day for us. And, that manifests and created a lot of, scrutiny on days long before that and long after that. What do you say?
Speaker 6:That's how what kind of day it was.
Speaker 5:How how
Speaker 6:And so it'll be an impactful day. We'll we'll do things that, honor the fact that we didn't play well against the Packers.
Speaker 3:What? I guess what he's saying is they're not just going to sit, I guess, on their haunches and just kinda go into next year the same, but they really don't have any mobility.
Speaker 2:So based on that, that's why I was seeing headlines
Speaker 3:That they're all in.
Speaker 2:That's a cowboys all in.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And he doesn't really specifically say that.
Speaker 2:Okay. I was waiting to hear that.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Like, we're He may have used that term, like, later in the in the clip.
Speaker 2:But he kind of did allude to, you know, not
Speaker 3:We're not worried
Speaker 2:about the future and all this and
Speaker 3:Yeah. Like We're worried about now. But, yeah. It's they don't have much they can do.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Again, though, every every year, you see certain teams, you're like, oh, they're up against it. And then all of a sudden, they have enough room to do this or that. Like, it feels like if they wanted to, they could. Or even the Rams a couple years ago.
Speaker 2:Wasn't that when people were saying, boy, they've mortgaged their future for this 1 year? Well, now they're back in the playoffs this year.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I mean, at some point, you gotta pay for the groceries. You know? The bill will come due at some point. But yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean, in the short term, you could probably figure it out.
Speaker 2:Alright. Well, yes. We do have, a guest to get to. So why don't we pause for a moment?
Speaker 3:Gentlemen,
Speaker 7:most of you did not know me when I had the use of my legs. I was strong and proud and arrogant. Now I wonder every hour of my life why god put me into this chair. But when I see defeat in the eyes of my countrymen, in your eyes right now, I start to think that maybe he brought me down for times like these when we all need to be reminded who we truly are, that we will not give up or give in.
Speaker 3:Mister president, with all respect, sir, what you're asking can't be done. Mister president.
Speaker 6:Get back, George. Get back.
Speaker 7:Do not tell me it can't be done.
Speaker 3:You're listening to the dumb zone.
Speaker 2:Hello? Hello? So that was totally they totally fabricated that. From what I can tell, that did not happen.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I I never watched that movie. I've always just heard it's a bad movie. Oh. That's what I've heard. That's it did very poorly.
Speaker 2:It was a box office dud.
Speaker 8:Really?
Speaker 4:I think it was great.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You were 10.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 3:And Probably didn't know.
Speaker 2:So one of the the key scene you're saying in the movie is FDR stood up out of his wheelchair and said, let's go to war. And everybody's like, yeah. We'll do it because you stood up because you got polio.
Speaker 4:Yeah. He was asking for a very risky mission, and they were like, president, it can't be done. And he said he stands up and says, don't tell me it can't be done.
Speaker 2:And it was totally faint.
Speaker 4:You heard it. Yeah. The music rises up, but then bam, they're doing it.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Don't you think if, he could've stood up, he would've stood up more? Like, he probably would have done that all the time. You know? He probably would have walked for that matter.
Speaker 2:Joining us now, maybe you could if you're viewing
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You can already see that we have somebody tapping her foot saying, why am I sitting here?
Speaker 3:Why have you made me wait so
Speaker 2:long? But if you're listening, then you don't know that, Liz Breunig is sitting there all mad. It's, the great Liz Breunig. Yay. Liz, you don't know it, but I love you.
Speaker 2:I love your podcast. It is my one must listen podcast every week. If I can only get to one thing, I will get to Liz Liz and Matt's podcast. And I call it Liz and Matt's because, let's be honest. Right?
Speaker 8:Yeah. Yeah. This is where the magic all happens. We're in the podcasting dungeon.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So so the great Liz Brunig, you may know her, you know, as Matt Brunig's wife, but, most people know Matt Brunig as Liz Brunig's husband. He this is also just to refresh everybody's memory, a long time ago, I found some audio that was the Philadelphia 70 sixers Locked on. Podcast. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it was the day before September 11th, and they were remembering September 11th.
Speaker 3:They didn't forget.
Speaker 2:And he was really talking about his memories and that just what a sad time that was and all that kind of stuff. But as you may know also in the podcast world, sometimes live reads will happen.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And sometimes you kinda integrate it so it seems part of the show and, well, once Liz and Matt listen to that same podcast on their podcast Mhmm. And here's the audio.
Speaker 3:I mean, the fact that you see kids 20 something now, never even knew their family member. You know? It's tough. But let me tell you something that's not tough. K.
Speaker 3:Not tough at all. And I'm talking about DIRECTV stream. What? You sound like fake norm. You know?
Speaker 3:I wouldn't I wouldn't pull this level of obscurity that wasn't that
Speaker 2:high high caliber.
Speaker 3:What happened there? What on earth happened there? He went into his live feed
Speaker 4:of his sponsor, DirecTV Streaming. Okay.
Speaker 3:Okay. Okay. Alright. No.
Speaker 8:That's not that's not reasonable.
Speaker 3:That's not reasonable. The funniest part to me about that is that they were playing that in a ticket promo during the time that your husband was defending us in a lawsuit against that company. Laugh.
Speaker 2:They used her laugh.
Speaker 3:Yeah. No. Just be in my car like, yeah. I don't know if you've put all this together or not, but you know? I I like I like
Speaker 8:to use that as a transition, when we're talking about something serious and then
Speaker 2:You know it's
Speaker 8:not tough? I go, yeah, you know it's not tough.
Speaker 4:It's not tough
Speaker 3:at all.
Speaker 1:It's not
Speaker 3:tough at all.
Speaker 8:Move on to
Speaker 3:something else. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So Liz doesn't belong with us.
Speaker 3:No. Not at all.
Speaker 2:We, we don't feel comfortable with you, Liz, because you're like a real person who's, who's who does real things that are important. We goof around, generally. Liz was a writer for The New Republic, The Washington Post. Hey. We've been in there.
Speaker 3:Compost.
Speaker 2:The New York Times, and now rights for the Times. The Atlantic.
Speaker 3:I don't know what's that.
Speaker 2:In fact, Pulitzer Prize finalist for an article in the Washington Post, which I did not know about. I mean, I knew you were, but I had never read that until this morning. Funny. It's funny. Oh,
Speaker 3:no. No. No. No. It's not in a comedic vein.
Speaker 2:No. Not not funny at all. It was actually just really depressing and sad? But, I read that this morning, Liz. It was unbelievably great.
Speaker 2:So I I think the Pulitzer guys at least may naming you a finalist, got it right. So, if they needed my endorsement. Oh, thank you. But probably should've gone with you for, the overall thing.
Speaker 3:You haven't read the others, though?
Speaker 2:I did not read the others.
Speaker 3:They may have been better.
Speaker 2:To be fair. Yeah.
Speaker 8:That's true.
Speaker 2:But, we actually, had you come on today. I actually have heard you talking. I think I heard you talking with Matt, what, a few months ago about was it the same person who was recently executed by Alabama?
Speaker 8:Kenny. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That who survived and attempted execution by lethal injection. And I've always thought, just to keep it a little light here for to start at least, if you survive an attempted execution, shouldn't you then You're done.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We'll keep you
Speaker 2:in prison for your life, but bravo. Somehow, you know, whether it was our fault or that you're some kind of a superhuman You get to live. Yeah. Yeah. But no.
Speaker 2:Yeah. They they didn't do that. They just attempted a different way. But was that the one where Matt was staking out the the entrance to see who was there and all that kind of stuff?
Speaker 8:That was the execution of Jimmy Barber
Speaker 3:when we
Speaker 8:actually found one of the executioners. And Matt was going to follow, based on other executions, we had kind of determined they were bringing in the executioners on an ambulance, to preserve their privacy and not have them use their personal vehicles or anything. So Matt was waiting outside the prison in an area they usually designate for protesters, watching the road to follow any ambulance that left, because that would take us right to where the executioners were. But he got hassled by the cops, and had some funny hijinks with them. They're like, can we search your car?
Speaker 8:And he's like, no. No dog.
Speaker 3:No way.
Speaker 8:Yeah. Just, and there was nothing in it. It was a rental car. There was nothing in there. But Matt, you know, he's a lawyer and, you know, getting
Speaker 2:into He's
Speaker 8:Matt. Yeah. He's Matt. So he wasn't gonna cooperate with the police and and didn't. They talked to him for a few
Speaker 2:hours. No. But that was a so you this is something that you have been doing for a while now, covering executions?
Speaker 8:Yeah. Since, about 2020.
Speaker 2:And, in covering them, how I know you go into you actually meet with a fam you get to know these people who are on death row. Right? Can you tell everybody what what what actually goes into covering? What does that mean?
Speaker 8:Well, so I like to, you know, basically embed with the family of a person who's being executed, but there's a long build up to that point, and it, you know, requires you know, everybody in Alabama prisons. Alabama prisons are so bad that, you know, Trump's DOJ sued them for how completely out of control, things are. And so everybody in Alabama prisons, even the guys on death row, they all have contraband cell phones. So you can just straight up text these guys. And so I just got to know a lot of them, either through their contraband cell phone usage or, in Jimmy Barber's case, just using the prison communication platform where you can email back and forth.
Speaker 8:I get to know them, and it takes a long time. They're all very different people. And then I ask if I can meet their families, if I can talk to their families. And it's just really building relationships is a huge part of this work. And then when it comes time for the execution, I typically ask if I can serve as a personal witness because the Alabama Department of Corrections won't let me serve as a media witness.
Speaker 8:In fact, they don't respond to my emails or calls at all. And if you serve as a personal witness for the guy, there's really not much they can do to keep you out except this time where I got thrown out of prison and kicked off the witness list for smuggling and a pen. Okay.
Speaker 3:More on that.
Speaker 8:Yeah. Yeah. And then you go yeah, so we were in the visitation room with Kenny, and these visitations the week of the execution are like 8 hours long, and so I didn't wanna forget anything that was said. And so I was wearing kind of high boots when I came to the prison, and I just smuggled a pen and some paper in. They didn't pick it up on the metal detector, and I went in and started taking notes, and the warden happened to see a pen out and he came in and was like, Who's got the pen?
Speaker 8:Who's got the pen? I didn't say anything. He's like, Give me the pen, give me the pen. I wouldn't say anything. So he sent some officers in and they pulled me out of the visitation room, took me to this bathroom, made me pull my shirt up, put their hands in my pants, and felt around and then made me take my shoes off, and that's where they found my pen and my notes.
Speaker 8:And so they just kicked me out of the visitation. They just sort of put me outside the gate and closed the bars, and they kicked me off the witness list and said I couldn't witness because I'd smuggled in a pen.
Speaker 3:Damn.
Speaker 2:So yeah. Why can't you have a pen?
Speaker 3:Well I have it's
Speaker 8:a weapon. Idea. Yeah. I mean, maybe they think the guy would use it as a weapon. Of course, when you're on death row, when you're when you're on what they call death watch, that's the period leading up to the execution.
Speaker 3:They don't want
Speaker 8:you to kill yourself. Yeah. They don't want you to kill yourself, but you're in solitary, so it couldn't be a weapon against anybody else. And, yeah, I think they don't want journalists really covering
Speaker 2:what's going on. You're on death row. They're like, we're killing you. Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Not us. Not you. Correct. Because I would think that would solve a lot of problems. You wouldn't have to worry about the botched execution.
Speaker 8:Yeah. And a lot of guys do commit suicide on death row, because they you know, for a lot of reasons, but it's better to do it yourself than let the state do it if you just completely hate them and don't want them to get one over on you. So it happens. Yeah. Sorry to be such a bummer.
Speaker 2:No. That's a weird just stance that the state
Speaker 3:No. We're gonna talk about the cowboys here in, like, 15 minutes. So, yeah,
Speaker 2:We'll get your thoughts.
Speaker 3:It's all good.
Speaker 8:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:So what is what is specifically different about the way that they're doing this in Alabama now as opposed to the way that it's been done before?
Speaker 8:Yeah. So, you know, for a long time since, I guess, you know, for the last 30, 40 odd years, lethal injection has been the most common method of execution in the United States. And Alabama last year or year before last had this series of 3 botched lethal injections. In the first case, the guy died, but it took 3 and a half hours. They had pierced him with needles in his hands, feet, arms, everywhere they really could, and then they had cut into his arm looking for a vein they could identify just visually.
Speaker 8:So they just took some kind of sharp instrument and cut his arm open. It's called a venous cut down. And it's unclear if that's how they eventually succeeded in putting him to death. But I heard that there was this execution that had taken multiple hours and that the guy hadn't been conscious when the curtain went up. Usually, when the curtain goes up, the guy has the opportunity to give his last words, and to hear his death warrant read to him by the warden.
Speaker 8:This guy was unconscious. His name was Jo Nathan James. He was completely unconscious. I found that to be extremely strange just based on what I knew about execution. So I went to Alabama, asked his family if we could conduct a second autopsy because the state conducts 1.
Speaker 8:And I went to the autopsy and I saw his body. And that's how we found out about the cut down, which they can't do by protocol. They're not allowed to do that, and all of the failed IV attempts. And I wrote a story on it and then there was another guy, Alan Miller, who was up next to be executed. Jonathon James was executed in July.
Speaker 8:Alan Miller was up in September. I met Alan Miller. I met his legal team. I asked a witness, and they he survived. Alan survived his lethal injection.
Speaker 8:And so next up was Kenny. Kenny was scheduled to be executed in November. I got to know Kenny really well, and I went to his execution, and he also survived. So Alabama just sort of stopped, like, they slowly unlearned to do lethal injections. They just couldn't do it anymore for a period there.
Speaker 8:I don't know how that happened or why. I'm very curious about that myself. But they decided to really step on the gas with this other method of execution that's statutorily available, but had never been tried in the world.
Speaker 3:As it were.
Speaker 8:Which is called, yeah, nitrogen hypoxia. And that's where they put a gas mask on your face, they pipe in 100% pure nitrogen, it displaces all the oxygen in your body and drops the oxygen level of your blood to lethal levels, and, that's that's what they did to Kenny. And so no other state has tried that, though now that Alabama has figured it out, I suspect that they will.
Speaker 3:Was was there something in, like, the composition of the injections that changed?
Speaker 8:They stopped being able to find veins. They just couldn't find veins. With Kenny and Allen, again, they pierced them all over, hands, feet, they tried to run a needle under Kenny's collarbone into this subclavian vein in the neck. They jammed a needle in there, but they didn't get a vein, they just got tissue. And so who knows why that is?
Speaker 8:Were they drunk? Was it a doctor who couldn't see very well? Were they unlicensed, out of practice? Could be
Speaker 3:anything. Man, that's crazy. I know.
Speaker 8:I know. I'm sorry. I have the when I'm, like, at a party or something and someone's like, what do you do for a living? I'm like, you're ready for a huge bummer.
Speaker 3:Yeah. You should just tell them about the cakes. Yeah. I also I also bake and I have kids, and,
Speaker 8:the other parts of my life are very happy.
Speaker 2:Why did you start covering executions?
Speaker 8:You know, I I guess kind of like my husband. I have a little bit of a defiant streak, and so I feel like if you're going to defend human life generally, you have to start where most people say that killing is justified, where at least half of the people in the United States say killing is justified. You can't start with the people who are easiest to defend, because a lot of people already agree. People who are innocent and have done nothing wrong deserve to live. That's already agreed.
Speaker 8:But people who are guilty, who have done things wrong, arguing that they deserve to live is a harder job and it's more urgent because they don't have a lot of defenders. They don't have a lot of people who are willing to stand up for them.
Speaker 2:So you're clearly anti death penalty?
Speaker 8:Yeah. At this point, I think I'm pretty strongly anti death penalty. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Had you always been?
Speaker 8:Well, I grew up I mean, I grew up in DFW where everybody is like, yay, death penalty. You know? I mean, my parents were pro death penalty. Not like they weren't, like, obsessed with it or anything. But, like, when executions would be on the news, they would be like, that's a good thing.
Speaker 8:I remember we were eating in, like, an outback steak House when Tim McVeigh was executed, and everybody clapped.
Speaker 3:Yeah. There are no rules.
Speaker 8:Yeah. There's no rules there.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Thank you. So you can do whatever. And I guess as a kid or as
Speaker 8:a young person, I just thought it was part of the normal run of things, that that was, it was a penalty, and if you did something bad, that was something that happened to you. But the older I got and I, you know, the deeper in my faith, the more I started to feel, we've all done things wrong. We're all people who make mistakes every day, and there are differences in degree that are very meaningful. But in terms of in kind, we're all sinners. And in a certain Augustinian way of looking at things, every human being deserves death.
Speaker 8:And so it's either all of us get it or none of us get it. And I I like the idea that none of us should get it.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I always thought it was, it's weird because, like, I'm an atheist. I I suppose I would call myself, but I always just, thought that this was rooted in your Catholicism because that's, like, one of the few things that I love about Catholicism is that they're like, we're not doing that.
Speaker 8:Yeah. I a lot of it is. And
Speaker 2:We're not wearing rubbers. Right? That's another thing.
Speaker 3:That's the other thing we're not doing. Yeah. We're we're we're we're we're raw dogging.
Speaker 8:Yeah. Yeah. I, you know, a big part of it is the faith. And I get a lot of meaning out of that. But also, I just, I like the guys.
Speaker 8:I mean, you talk about non judgmental, accepting people. You know, it's gonna be guys who have murder convictions every time. You know, they seem I think you watch movies and death row seems like a really violent and scary place, but it's actually not because everybody's in solitary. And so it's it's not nearly as scary as gen pop, you know, and the guys have typically been there a long time. They're older.
Speaker 8:You know, death row's like a nursing home. I think the over half of people on death row in the United States have been there longer than 18 years. So they've had some time to think about things and come to terms with things, and usually, I mean, they're pretty cool.
Speaker 3:A lot of reflection.
Speaker 8:Yeah. A lot of thinking about mistakes and and stuff like that. Frankly, something we could all do more of.
Speaker 2:Well, as you wrote you wrote recently that that's kind of like a I mean, even being on death row is somewhat torture.
Speaker 8:Yeah. It is. I mean, living under, you know, the impending knowledge of your certain death is a a kind of torture. Mock executions are considered torture, I think, by the Geneva Conventions.
Speaker 3:What does that mean?
Speaker 8:Mock executions, like when you take someone to a wall and you put a gun to their head and you pull the trigger, but there's no bullets in it or something.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 8:And you just do it to torture them or make them confess to stuff or whatever. But that is what happened to Kenny. He was put through a mock execution. Yeah. And so he's a guy who who lived through a lot of pain, a lot of suffering.
Speaker 8:He was never really the same after his first execution. Yeah. It's pretty bad.
Speaker 2:And, of course, you know, politicians often will say you have to have the death penalty because it's a deterrent. Is that, actually the case?
Speaker 8:No. I mean, places that have the death penalty don't have lower, murder rates than places that don't have the death penalty. So, you know, sometimes they have, you know, higher rates of murder, than places that do have the death, that don't have the death penalty. So I think the idea that it's a deterrent has been pretty firmly debunked. You know, even in places that do have the death penalty, whether or not to seek the death penalty is is still mostly a matter of prosecutorial discretion.
Speaker 8:So you don't know, even if you commit a murder and you're thinking about the possible, fallout, you don't know for a fact that they're even going to seek the death penalty. I mean, lots of people
Speaker 2:just take plea deals.
Speaker 8:Juries really like life without parole, LWAB, which is, you know, pretty new, actually, as a penalty. I think Texas only got life without parole in the aughts, I wanna say.
Speaker 2:Interesting. I didn't know that.
Speaker 8:Yeah. It's it's relatively new. Not all places got it at the same time, but juries like it, right, because it can be undone. And so there are a lot of reasons if you're committing a crime that you shouldn't automatically presume you're gonna get the death penalty. And so I think that well, works against its use as a deterrent.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I, I'm against the death penalty, personally. I don't think they should have a death penalty. But, it's funny to me Where's this going? When they say well, it's like, well, we're trying to find the most humane way Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. To kill somebody. And so, yes, this, the injection, that that works great. Well, until it doesn't. Or, you know, the firing squad seems to be a pretty secure way that you probably can't escape that one.
Speaker 2:You know, we were talking yesterday, actually, promoting you, why not the guillotine? It seems like that happens real quickly. Although, the head will stay alive for, what, 40 to, to 55 minutes?
Speaker 3:Dan actually believes. It's a
Speaker 2:yeah. If the, the head rolling down. Yep. The the point is to me and I think it's always funny when I hear about war as well. Same thing.
Speaker 2:There are, well, there's rule. They broke the Geneva Convention. But what? War is I'm supposed to try and kill as many people as I can, but not this way? Like, I I I that's and I'm also not pro war.
Speaker 2:So the same by the same token, I just think, well, there is no humane. If you just just determine that killing someone is okay, well, then, now what are we quibbling about? Just for your queasiness. And our our discussion yesterday a little bit was, Jake, why don't they or if if these things were public. Oh, I know why.
Speaker 2:Because it was a Today in History note. Yeah. There was, like, a public hanging in 1911. And I thought, boy, that's pretty recent to have a public government sanctioned in the square hanging. If that was the case now, we would eradicate the death penalty and you argued with me.
Speaker 2:Like you said, that's
Speaker 3:Well, I only argued with you because I'm aware that for centuries, that was, like, the most common popular form of entertainment, which is, I believe, true. Liz Liz is a lot smarter than me, so she may have evidence of the contrary, but but I I I it's my understanding that for a long time, that's, like, what people did for fun.
Speaker 2:Like, because now they seem to be hard hardcore trying to, like, they're trying to keep Liz out. They're trying to, like, anything they any reason they have. Yeah. No. You can't view this publicly.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I don't know. Maybe sensibilities have changed, but I know for a long time, you know, that part of society was very was very dark.
Speaker 8:Yeah. Public executions were a huge thing. I think the last one was in something crazy like 1936, in Owensboro, Kentucky. No. It's really it's really not.
Speaker 8:It was a hanging.
Speaker 2:Kentucky was the place I had it yesterday. Yeah. 9 to 11. Yeah.
Speaker 8:Yeah. Yeah. And, they they drew crowds of 1,000, these public executions. I mean, everybody from all around. People came into Owensboro, Kentucky because there was a female warden who was supposed to be carrying out the execution.
Speaker 8:Everybody thought that was really salacious and interesting.
Speaker 3:Well, that's hot. Yeah.
Speaker 8:Yeah, exactly. But she ended up giving the job to a kind of male surrogate to do it for her. But
Speaker 2:after that- Women, am I right?
Speaker 3:Yeah,
Speaker 8:there were, there was legislation, there were statutes considered about making executions something that happened inside prisons, as opposed to something that happened in public, because people didn't think they were good for people. They didn't think it was necessarily a good thing for big crowds to get together and get all riled up about violence. And so it gradually became
Speaker 3:the same
Speaker 8:that happens yeah, inside prisons and and in secrecy.
Speaker 2:It's weird that Kentucky is the last state. They seem so progressive.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That is weird.
Speaker 2:They've they've changed a lot.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, yeah. How does this, like, how does this affect you?
Speaker 3:Yeah. It seems like a pretty heavy load. Like, I just have to worry about whether or not they're gonna fire McCarthy. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you, like, going to sleep at at night. Yeah.
Speaker 8:Yeah. I, you know, in Catholic in in Catholicism, you can pray to the dead, and they can't really do anything except pray for you, but I talked to Kenny and Jimmy, who were guys I really liked, who are dead, and ask them to pray for me to have wisdom and strength and compassion and courage to do all this. And also I just, I, you know, the work makes me cry, but that doesn't mean it's not good work. I cried the whole plane ride home after Kenny was executed. I'm sitting on the plane bawling, wiping my nose on my sleeve, people are looking at me.
Speaker 8:I'm like, I don't want to talk about it. And it was probably pretty uncomfortable for the 2 people on either side of me. But he was a friend. He was a friend of mine. It's like that Bob Dylan song.
Speaker 8:He was a friend, and it's really it's really tough to see him go.
Speaker 2:And what do you hope like, I would guess the the aforementioned the article I mentioned earlier that you got nominated for in The Washington Post. Like, I I would think your hope there is, hey, I need to bring this stuff to light
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:So that it can change in the future. Is that kind of what some of your mindset is on writing about executions?
Speaker 8:Yeah. If I can change, you know, at least 1 or 2 minds about the humanity of the guys on death row, the possibility of change, the potential of forgiveness, if I can just make those things seem a little more real and a little more possible to like 1 or 2 people, I've accomplished my life's work. You know, that's my small contribution to ending the death penalty.
Speaker 2:Well, thoughts on Mike McCarthy staying with the Cowboys? What
Speaker 3:do we do in the draft? Yeah.
Speaker 8:You know, my dad's a huge Cowboys fan, and I can remember in the nineties my mom telling my brother and I, daddy's not mad at you. Daddy's mad at the Cowboys.
Speaker 3:Boy.
Speaker 8:It's okay.
Speaker 3:My my wife knows those words all too well.
Speaker 8:So I I have great love and affection for the Cowboys. Every year somebody makes it their job to try to explain the rules of football to me, and I have aggressively declined to learn. I don't really understand. But it's good.
Speaker 3:It's better than
Speaker 8:not now.
Speaker 3:Stay where you are. It's better than not now. Yeah.
Speaker 8:Yeah. Yeah. It brings a it lends a certain mystique. And, you know, Matt loves it. I love it because it means it's fall, and I love the holidays.
Speaker 8:And so I look forward to football season every year.
Speaker 2:The only, so the thing I have to say about football and Catholicism is Oh, interesting. When, my wife was Catholic as well, and she wanted to get married in the Catholic church, so we had to have, counseling Mhmm. Before to teach us about how to be married. Like, you know, because Catholic people, they never get divorced.
Speaker 8:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:They go through that. So we had the counseling and it was, the guy telling, there was a guy up there telling us, and he was like, look, ladies and guys, sometimes you have to let your ladies give them some time. They might like to go shopping. Yeah. And my wife, was a bit taken aback by that.
Speaker 2:And then, they said and the guys, you know, you got ladies
Speaker 3:He might have to hit you.
Speaker 2:Well, no. Not that.
Speaker 3:My bad. No. Sorry.
Speaker 2:Give him give him his time to watch football on Sunday. Okay. Leave him alone on Sunday. Yeah. And so I will tell my wife, don't you remember the the counselor?
Speaker 2:You want me to do this? I'm it's Sunday.
Speaker 3:And what was interesting about that is that guy had been married. Right?
Speaker 2:I don't believe so. No. He knew everything about marriage, though.
Speaker 8:Yeah. It's always funny listening to Catholic priest talk about, women be like this. I'm like, how do
Speaker 5:you know?
Speaker 2:Well, Liz
Speaker 8:But, you know
Speaker 2:thanks for your husband and thank you. And thank you for, for being Liz.
Speaker 3:You guys are the best.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Go check out their podcast. Go check out, the New Republic.
Speaker 3:Excuse me.
Speaker 2:Not the New Republic, but the Atlantic. I'm sorry. Yeah. And check out, the Brunings available on Patreon only. Oh.
Speaker 2:Isn't that correct, Liz? Patreon.com? Yep. Fellow Patreon buddy.
Speaker 3:Let's talk ketamine next time.
Speaker 8:Oh, yeah. Love ketamine.
Speaker 3:Oh, this guy back here fist bumping.
Speaker 8:Yeah. Yeah. If you got a drug, I'll do it. That's another big part of my my job.
Speaker 2:Okay. Nice.
Speaker 3:Alright. Thanks, man. We
Speaker 2:appreciate you.
Speaker 8:Thank you so much. It was nice meeting you guys.
Speaker 2:Bye. That's the great Liz, Roonek. Yay, indeed.
Speaker 3:Yay, indeed. Yay. Yay. Yay. Yay.
Speaker 2:Wanna hook up our next guest? And we'll slide into the new wanna do some news?
Speaker 3:Sure.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Here's
Speaker 2:Uh-huh.
Speaker 4:Shay. Yeah. With that.
Speaker 2:What is Adam? Yeah.
Speaker 3:News. Do I have to wait or what? No.
Speaker 2:No. No. We'll we'll just let him pop on when he wants to. It's, we're gonna hook up with Dominic Robinson. Of
Speaker 3:course. Yeah. I just didn't know if I needed to wait.
Speaker 4:No. Go ahead.
Speaker 2:So you just do your
Speaker 3:thing. That's what I do. Yeah. I just do my thing. A couple of stories that I definitely wanna get to here, and they're none of them are all that positive.
Speaker 3:I'm just gonna be honest with you fellas. North Texas man sentenced to federal prison for child porn after messaging 14 year old boy on Snapchat, which I think as Blake said yesterday, isn't that supposed to be anonymous?
Speaker 4:Yeah. It's news to me.
Speaker 2:Yes. He was hoping it was.
Speaker 3:Guys, 33. How did we start talking about, to catch a predator yesterday? This. It was the same story? Yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay. Yeah. Well, there's there's some updates, but, yeah. It's, 210 months in federal prison for this, specific crime. 210.
Speaker 3:Why don't they save them
Speaker 2:a number of years so I don't have to do that?
Speaker 3:You don't like doing that?
Speaker 2:Well, I guess 12 months in a year and then times 10. So it's definitely
Speaker 3:over You're just assuming?
Speaker 2:It's definitely over 12. Well, what calendar are we using? Gregorian. Yeah. So that's 12 months.
Speaker 2:And then, yeah, times 10 would be a 120. So it's more than 10 years. Mhmm. Okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I don't think I had, like, the sentencing yesterday. But, yeah, it's, it's 210 months. In one of their first actual moves of, being proactive as far as, content, Elon Musk's esque ex has paused Twitter searches for the, Taylor Swift deep fakes, which is probably why we couldn't find them the other day. Well, how do you do that?
Speaker 2:Oh, okay. X Twitter. When you said his x, I'm thinking of, oh, is that Grimes? Is it what's his It's Grimes. Yeah.
Speaker 2:His wife's name okay. Twitter is now x. Sorry. When you say e r
Speaker 3:Everyone has to say x formerly known as Twitter. Okay.
Speaker 2:That's yes.
Speaker 4:They can restrict searches?
Speaker 3:Yeah. If, you're the most famous person in the world?
Speaker 2:Now is there a conspiracy about that that actually it's because she is a, lefty?
Speaker 3:There I have seen some, controversy about, like and I don't even think she's, like, in a endorsed Biden or anything. No. But, like, I know Hannity last night went off on, like, Taylor Swift, which I would say just from a, strategic standpoint, very bad idea.
Speaker 2:What? To go off on Taylor Swift?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Like, if there's anybody that can just convince a bunch of minions to do something.
Speaker 2:Maybe. I mean, celebrities have been telling people to vote certain ways for a long time.
Speaker 3:Dude, she's the most famous Alec Baldwin is a dickhead. Right? Like, we all nobody likes that guy. Yeah. Now maybe the the argument against it would be that most of her audience is 15.
Speaker 2:Good point. Yeah. It was, like, dude perfect saying get out the vote. Exactly.
Speaker 3:Exactly. But she is very very famous. Like, again, I've said it, she's the most famous person since Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2:But if you're stoked on Trump, well, I guess that's not what we're worried about. We're worried about the people that are on the fence.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That have, like, moldable minds that are 18 or 19 that she can definitely influence. They're not gonna dig into this or that issue.
Speaker 2:So I again, I don't know
Speaker 3:all this taking on Taylor Swift is a bad idea.
Speaker 2:But I only know this stuff at arm's length or headline stuff, but it also seems that some of the vitriol is because or from what I understand, because there used to be some kind of a, theory that she was actually real hardcore right. Did you know about this or no?
Speaker 3:Yeah. I mean, I've seen it, but I don't I don't know how much
Speaker 2:Because because she wasn't willing to go out and give an endorsement anywhere Yeah. It was assumed. Oh, someone like that usually would be all over. They'd be endorsing the Democrats. So she's a she's a plant she's one of us.
Speaker 2:She's real hardcore. She's into conspiracy theories. She's, Q. But now that they find out she's not, we need to attack her. I don't
Speaker 3:know. Orkare. Yeah. I I I don't know Orkare either. I think the biggest thing is just that, she's super safe, you know.
Speaker 3:Like, her whole brand is just
Speaker 2:Right. She didn't wanna take a side. Yeah. She's she's Like, hey.
Speaker 3:I want she's not overly sexualized.
Speaker 2:Everybody to buy my yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Or she wasn't overly sexualized till the AI thing.
Speaker 3:Right. Republicans buy sneakers too.
Speaker 2:I was sent something with like, I think her having, relations with a muppet of some sort. Like Yeah. People were Was it Oscar the Grouch? Somebody.
Speaker 3:I think it was, perhaps Grover. No. Well, I saw a Grover one, but I also saw a Kermit one. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think Kermit one was Seems like Grover would be more fun.
Speaker 3:Go on.
Speaker 2:Don't it? Just look how it's all I mean, Kermit's all tiny and slimy. He's he's a little frog. You know? What is Grover?
Speaker 2:He's more he's fuzzy. He's big. He's a bit more burly. Not like he's not bearish, but he's
Speaker 3:But what is
Speaker 2:it? Good shape?
Speaker 3:Grover's in good shape?
Speaker 2:Yeah. It just seems like Grover
Speaker 3:The dumbest conversation we've ever had.
Speaker 2:Feels like he'd be wild. And Kermit's just missionary? Kermit's like, kill. If there's an F Mary kill in here somewhere Okay. I'm gonna marry Snuffleupagus.
Speaker 2:I was a big that is?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Of course. Okay. I was a big sesame guy. Big Muppet guy.
Speaker 4:No. I was into Arthur. You have something to say over there?
Speaker 2:We trying to cough the word gay? Because I didn't hear it. I just heard a cough. I'll let you fill
Speaker 3:in the blanks, chief.
Speaker 2:Is that why you love the,
Speaker 4:Yesterday, he was saying the r word and then now he won't even say gay.
Speaker 3:It was a quote from The Hangover. Was it not? He said retard. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. He was he's he's often quoting movies.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:If you know Jake for 5 minutes,
Speaker 3:you're gonna hear No. This is You're gonna
Speaker 2:hear some classic lines.
Speaker 4:But he just want you to play unedited music. I mean, he was unhinged yesterday. It just took one day.
Speaker 3:I just don't think we have to be worried about any of this at all anymore.
Speaker 2:No. I enjoy it. I I want And like I said yesterday,
Speaker 3:he calls me after the show. He's like, hey. Why are you being so soft?
Speaker 2:That never happened in that way.
Speaker 3:Or bring bring back the old bring back the guy I I loved first. Surveillance video catches possum stealing bag of cookies from Texas porch.
Speaker 2:What do you is this really a story on a website that you found?
Speaker 3:It's on all of the websites.
Speaker 2:No. It is. You're saying more than one TV station has said. I want this on ours.
Speaker 3:3 of them.
Speaker 2:What is this world coming to?
Speaker 3:It's not a zoo birth.
Speaker 2:No. But I know you had It's also not a story surveillance. Someone in in a community of 8,000,000, someone's going to have a, something stolen from it. Alright.
Speaker 4:Why were there cookies on the porch?
Speaker 3:Well, here's why it's a story because it happened in Southlake.
Speaker 4:Woah. Now you're interested.
Speaker 2:I'm not. No. I have a porch and I have some
Speaker 3:real estate. It becomes a story.
Speaker 2:Because I send it to channel 8?
Speaker 3:Yeah. No. Because the Southlake Police Department posted
Speaker 2:that. And then every TV station's like
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Love this.
Speaker 3:Yeah. It was just a gift, like, with a balloon left on a a porch for a kid.
Speaker 2:Perhaps a TIF street?
Speaker 3:Maybe a TIFF street.
Speaker 2:You know what? You know Those are all.
Speaker 3:It's Jake here for TIFF streets and if
Speaker 2:this space open for you Tiff's Treats.
Speaker 3:If you'd like to contact us about a potential advertisement relationship, we would love that.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna tell you what
Speaker 3:And now, Carey is pulling out a pellet gun to shoot me in the nuts. Please. Right behind you. You see that right there, Dan? That's a pellet gun.
Speaker 2:Tiptree. How does it get to your house that warm?
Speaker 3:Nobody knows.
Speaker 2:Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3:It is crazy. That's why the possum was able to figure
Speaker 1:it out.
Speaker 2:It out. Yeah. I'm very protest streets. If in if, you know It's not
Speaker 6:that hot
Speaker 4:it's not not that hot
Speaker 2:of an opinion. Be like, alright. Where's this guy stand on the death penalty? Oh, okay. Well, what about TIFF Street?
Speaker 3:TIFF Street.
Speaker 2:So he's anti death penalty, anti war, protest. I just wanna show that I'm pro some things.
Speaker 3:Man, we had a tough scene the other night where, so I I also, I just wanna say that I'm a huge fan of All Pro Foundation Repair, repair, but some foundations are just unrepairable. Mhmm. My The door to my garage, like, doesn't close properly. Tony's done what he's able to do. Most of it's Your house
Speaker 2:is like 80 years old.
Speaker 3:It is very old. Yeah. That's The cat slept in the garage.
Speaker 2:A big part, like, if you built a new house there, you could Yeah. Shore that thing up.
Speaker 3:Like, we went out there and the cats just in the garage. And it's what? 45 outside?
Speaker 2:Oh, it got out. Yeah. The 4 figs
Speaker 4:cat. Warranty cat.
Speaker 2:Warranty cat. Warranty cat.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's so expensive you have a warranty on it.
Speaker 3:It's literally never been outside. Like, if if a possum showed up on my front porch and that cat got outside, that cat would get its head bit off. Like, it's not able to live.
Speaker 4:So it was a big deal that it slept in the garage?
Speaker 3:I would not have been at work the next day had it gotten out.
Speaker 2:Like, if you lost the cat?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that garage door would have been open. That cat is dead. Definitely dead.
Speaker 4:What's our policy on personal days? What do you mean? Is missing Kat, like, a good enough reason to miss work?
Speaker 3:He told me one time that if Kipper Bodhi died, he would not work.
Speaker 2:Well, probably just because my wife wouldn't let me go in, and I do whatever she says. Yeah. That's the way it is.
Speaker 3:Alright. There's your news. What's up with what's up with Dominic?
Speaker 2:The dumb zone
Speaker 4:The way
Speaker 2:you like and say the thing?
Speaker 3:Rock. I did.
Speaker 4:Okay. We play that announcer audio?
Speaker 3:Yeah. We can do that real quick. What are you talking about?
Speaker 4:I've been wanting to hear this for a couple days.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Blake and I talked about this this morning. It's my bad. Let's see here. What is Gen z labor dispute?
Speaker 3:Oh, we did that yesterday. Why are we not taking a break right now if we're gonna wait on Don, Dominic?
Speaker 2:Well, I don't think we're gonna wait anymore. We're just gonna keep doing the show. And if he doesn't chime in in the next 10 minutes, he's he's kinda gonna be out. He's in Hawaii. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's got stuff going on.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 2:Or we can just, interview his in laws for couple hours.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Why not?
Speaker 2:What's your question? Who's got the mic over there?
Speaker 4:It's open for whoever whoever wants it.
Speaker 2:How long we've been going? Because I wanna do some Today in History.
Speaker 3:Let's do that first.
Speaker 2:Before we leave.
Speaker 4:About 135. Okay.
Speaker 2:You guys wanna chime in with some Today in History? In history. Or no?
Speaker 4:They're not eager.
Speaker 2:I thought he has a mic.
Speaker 4:They don't seem to want.
Speaker 2:They're over.
Speaker 3:There's free throws when you got foul to it. Okay.
Speaker 2:How are we feeling? Good. Okay. Today in history. So today is
Speaker 4:Thursday. Thursday.
Speaker 3:Thursday,
Speaker 2:Feb 1. February 1st. On this day in 2003, the Space Shuttle Columbia, just flew around and landed. No. No.
Speaker 2:No. It actually
Speaker 3:No. No. It didn't do that. Do you remember this? A 100%.
Speaker 3:It blew up over, a buddy of mine's parents farm. It's a Saturday. Right? We're talking about the one in Nacogdoches?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. I believe that was a Saturday. Yeah. I believe I might have been doing some kind of Saturday show or something.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Anyway, it broke up during a reentry.
Speaker 3:Shouldn't that just be called the entry?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I guess okay. Screw The Associated Press. On that flight, Elon Ramon from Cuba. The first Israeli in space.
Speaker 4:What year what year was this?
Speaker 2:2003. Okay.
Speaker 4:I think some people had some hot opinions about what happened to it.
Speaker 3:Go on.
Speaker 4:2 years after 911.
Speaker 3:I can't say that I've ever heard this.
Speaker 4:Let's just say a non white may have been blamed for what happened for it. Could this be another attack?
Speaker 2:I've I never heard that.
Speaker 3:I've never heard that ever.
Speaker 2:I also don't subscribe to loose change.com.
Speaker 4:This was,
Speaker 3:like you do.
Speaker 4:This is on, like, the middle school playground.
Speaker 2:Really?
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 4:You guys were looking at playboys. We're talking about Columbia conspiracy theories.
Speaker 3:All I knew was that, my friend's family, like, had a bunch of wreckage on their, on their property. Like, from the shuttle, which was probably pretty obvious. Didn't really need to add that. It was just wreckage from
Speaker 2:someone who drove by
Speaker 3:and Yeah.
Speaker 2:Got an exos.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That was unnecessary.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I never thought I'd I'd I had never heard anything like that. No. I haven't. I just thought it was like a yay boo.
Speaker 2:Like, hey. We got the first in surveillance space. Oh, they, blew up.
Speaker 4:I thought you were leading to
Speaker 3:Oh, I doubt.
Speaker 4:He may have been wrongly blamed.
Speaker 2:No. I'm I guess that's not the way I think, but you go ahead and
Speaker 4:I was just sharing what people around me were talking about.
Speaker 2:People around me on the
Speaker 4:are there message boards? I haven't seen them.
Speaker 2:On this day in 2009, Olympic great Michael Phelps acknowledged regrettable behavior and bad judgment.
Speaker 3:So stupid.
Speaker 2:After a photo in a British newspaper showed him inhaling marijuana. From a water pipe. Yes.
Speaker 3:As they call it. It's so dumb.
Speaker 2:Was this before or after the many gold medals? Did he win gold medals after this is what I wanna know. Like, did he prove
Speaker 3:I I think he won at least a little bit after that. Yeah. But, I mean, he's definitely smoking pot the whole time that he was the best athlete in the world.
Speaker 2:How does the Mounts, household view marijuana and the legalization of?
Speaker 3:We are in Oklahoma. Quite positive. Quite positive. Okay. The younger generation would like to weigh
Speaker 2:in with
Speaker 3:quite positively.
Speaker 2:Okay. Father-in-law is just
Speaker 3:kinda I can't see. He has indicated tacit support.
Speaker 2:Okay. Yeah. Okay. Oh my
Speaker 3:god. Just the one finger up.
Speaker 2:But you gotta live in in Oklahoma. Boy, you
Speaker 3:get a card.
Speaker 2:Recreational. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Right. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That was awesome. Now I can now I understand why certain members of the family may have just moved back.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:From Texas.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Oh. Interesting.
Speaker 2:It's all making sense now.
Speaker 3:Very interesting.
Speaker 2:On this day in 2018, a judge ordered a Wisconsin girl named Morgan Geyser to be committed to a mental hospital for 40 years for stabbing a classmate when she was 12. Can I take a guess? You know it. Slenderman? Slenderman.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I don't really know what exactly that is. She wanted to curry favor with a fictional horror character named Slenderman.
Speaker 3:Yeah. It's one of the most effed up documentaries I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1:I was
Speaker 4:about to ask. I think you did a report on this.
Speaker 3:Yeah. We talked about it. It was so troubling dude. Like, I don't know. It's one of those deals where you feel like you can guide your little girl in a certain way, and don't do this, don't do that, but they are on the Internet, and then 2 months later they're crazy, and they kill a classmate at the behest of a fictional character.
Speaker 2:Like, the fictional character was telling them to kill people?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah, Really weird. Really, really weird.
Speaker 2:Speaking of f'ed up documentaries, American Nightmare? No. I have it written down to watch this weekend.
Speaker 3:Okay. I started it.
Speaker 2:What's it about? Like,
Speaker 3:we were talking about yesterday. It's basically, like or 2 days ago.
Speaker 2:Right. Yeah. Sorry. I keep saying yesterday.
Speaker 3:It's basically like, a real life Gone Girl. What's Gone Girl? The Ben Affleck, Ben Affleck. Uh-huh. Where you, like, fake the
Speaker 4:It's a book.
Speaker 3:Okay. Thanks. Wives Club book guy.
Speaker 4:Pretty good book.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, steamy romance thing?
Speaker 3:No. It's like, wife, like, fakes her own death.
Speaker 4:What's her name?
Speaker 2:Jillian something wrote it. Yeah. I can't remember. But yeah.
Speaker 4:Jillian Flynn?
Speaker 3:Caitlin knows.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:So it's like that actually happened.
Speaker 2:Faked her death to get away from abusive husband, something like that? Yeah.
Speaker 3:I think there's like a money play involved.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah. She was just very manipulative. Yeah. It's the there was no money. It was just she
Speaker 3:And he was cheating. So she wanted to get back in
Speaker 4:there. But did her behavior cause him
Speaker 3:to cheat? You know, it's it's really important for you. That's that's an important factor. Yeah. When when looking at
Speaker 2:a guy cheating on his wife
Speaker 3:How big of a bitch was she?
Speaker 2:You gotta ask, what did she do? Did she please him, the way that he deserved?
Speaker 3:Yeah. No. That's what we're all thinking, for sure. That's that's the main thing is that she caused this.
Speaker 2:No. I was gonna say, speaking of documentaries, I remember one we watched many years ago about this little kid whose mom kept drugging her or faking ailments of hers.
Speaker 3:We just talked about this last week. Yeah.
Speaker 4:What? Mommy dead and dearest?
Speaker 3:Yeah. No.
Speaker 2:Maybe that
Speaker 3:sort of Yeah. But we just talked about this because the the girl just got out of prison.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I was gonna say that she's like, I'm just seeing her everywhere now because my wife I'll notice it because my wife will watch the Today Show news and then but this she's been on The View. Yeah. That is what it's called, Blake. You're right.
Speaker 2:My bad. Like, she's been everywhere and, like, she had her boyfriend kill Yeah. Her mom, but the boyfriend's still in jail and she gets out. Gipsy Rose. Gipsy Rose.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like and now it's like she's, oh, I think she's also on the cover of, like, people magazine or just something I don't know she's all over the place which how come I can't be on the cover of people?
Speaker 3:Was that the whole thing?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 3:That's all you had?
Speaker 2:I mean,
Speaker 4:his point was why is a murderer all over People Magazine?
Speaker 3:I mean, dude, she had it pretty rough. Pretty rough.
Speaker 2:Should the boyfriend still be in prison if she's not?
Speaker 4:If you should be a package deal?
Speaker 2:I mean, if he he did pull the trigger but at certainly at her behest
Speaker 3:yeah yeah I don't know let's get Liz back on. Yeah.
Speaker 2:We should ask Liz. Damn. And on this day in 2022 quarterback Tom 2 things happened. Okay. Let's rank them.
Speaker 2:Quarterback Tom Brady announced his retirement from the NFL.
Speaker 4:K. Wait. They're for real this time?
Speaker 2:No. 6 weeks later, it reversed course and then announced he would return, for one more year.
Speaker 3:Because of Adam Schefter.
Speaker 2:Wait. So was that 2020?
Speaker 3:Which I a 100% believe.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It was 2022 because he played that season. Yeah. And this is, February. Yes.
Speaker 4:Yes. February 1st.
Speaker 2:It is so so February 1st. Also on that day, ABC News announced that Whoopi Goldberg would be suspended for 2 weeks as cohost of The View over remarks a day earlier about Jews and the Holocaust that the networks called wrong and hurtful.
Speaker 4:You came in at a good time, Dominic.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's the great Dominic Robinson.
Speaker 3:Hey. Whoopie.
Speaker 5:Why are we not recording? What's the deal?
Speaker 2:We're on, bro.
Speaker 3:It says recording hasn't started at the bottom of the StreamYard. I we gotta make sure we gotta check with Blake. You know how he is with, not recording things. He's got the backup.
Speaker 4:We're recording now. Make sure your mic settings are on your mic.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. You backed up?
Speaker 5:Yeah. We're backed up.
Speaker 4:We're backed up. Check your mic settings.
Speaker 5:Okay. What what's what's is my am I low? Am I hot?
Speaker 4:You just sound like you're on your laptop mic.
Speaker 2:Okay. Yeah. Make sure it's feeding the mic mic. I guess, Jake was right. Maybe that's why we take a break to
Speaker 3:I just thought, hey. He he's here. Come on in. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Handle these things. How is it now? Oh, I'm on I'm on my mic. Way better. That's that's better.
Speaker 2:We had this problem with him before when he was in his, his abode. Remember?
Speaker 3:Robinson was regarded in some circles as the best prep cornerback in the nation as a high school senior, but he became a wide receiver at Florida State. The Florida secondary could not slow Robinson on 11/29/03 at 5 catches for a 102 yards, both careers highs, and a 35 yard touchdown in the 3834 Seminole's victory. I read this from a Dominic Robinson trading card.
Speaker 2:You're not up, Jake. Put your video up on
Speaker 3:How does Premier. I'm still I never left.
Speaker 2:No. You gotta go do a new one. Okay. He sent us a new one.
Speaker 5:How does that relate to, Whoopi and the Holocaust?
Speaker 3:That's a great question.
Speaker 2:It's, well, we got your we got you on for your comments on, just exactly tell us what Whoopi said,
Speaker 3:and then were you were you hurt by
Speaker 2:it? Hey. This place is sweet.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Where your father in law's street, Nico. Your father in law's ranch. She's got cows and, more dogs than I've ever seen in one place.
Speaker 5:Have you guys, gone and checked out the cows yet, or is that later?
Speaker 2:I'm just looking at them from afar. To
Speaker 5:go. Okay. Yeah. You're gone? Go out.
Speaker 5:Get out on the
Speaker 3:Nice. I want a pond.
Speaker 2:How many acres are we talking about here? 160. A 160?
Speaker 3:Dang. I thought it was called a plan.
Speaker 4:I thought it was called because I had a half of 1.
Speaker 3:What if yeah.
Speaker 2:What if you just peeled off 1 or 2 for us? We can throw our studio up
Speaker 4:here. Dude, that'd be cool.
Speaker 2:Then we'd have that Woah. Then we'd have that sweet Oklahoma address. You know? Yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah. That's the the thing. It's in Oklahoma, though. That Jake might have a problem with that.
Speaker 2:Oklahoma address for the studio.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. That's why Texas doesn't fall into the ocean, Dominic.
Speaker 2:Jake, can you have to drop it
Speaker 5:or no?
Speaker 3:I assume he knows it because Oklahoma sucks. I mean, go on. Yeah. We all
Speaker 2:know. I don't think he did know, and he's not gonna laugh at that.
Speaker 3:No. He he shouldn't because it's not funny.
Speaker 2:Not while Carrie Mounts is, living in Oklahoma. That's right.
Speaker 5:Yeah. Not on my watch. Hey. Is the ranch, draft party suitable? Or is is
Speaker 3:Dude, imagine us sitting here.
Speaker 5:That was the
Speaker 2:Camera's set up.
Speaker 3:All in here. Yeah. Ronaldo throws it to us.
Speaker 2:I'm wearing my USC. Yeah. For sure, dude.
Speaker 3:I'll paint my face. He's got the pellet gun. He knows what I'll do. I'm hugging dudes.
Speaker 5:I'm throwing on I'm I'm wearing
Speaker 3:a no puppet hat. Amazing. We're we're not he's gotta do some serious,
Speaker 5:segment about why he wears the no puppet hat.
Speaker 3:Yeah. He's gotta he's gotta he's gotta
Speaker 5:cook bring it down real low.
Speaker 4:In 26,000. No.
Speaker 3:There was a presidential debate. This is the perfect draft party spot. Yeah. This is where you're gonna do it, isn't it? Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's gotta be
Speaker 5:As long as you guys will will show up, as long as you guys as long as I can have the the dumps on there.
Speaker 2:I will stay here until then.
Speaker 3:It's two and a half years from now.
Speaker 2:Yeah. This house is great. Yeah. Okay. If you guys could choose
Speaker 3:Uh-oh. I'm
Speaker 2:gonna gonna talk to the in laws here for a second. Football or baseball? Okay. We have 2 baseballs.
Speaker 3:The guy right here.
Speaker 5:Give up. This is done
Speaker 3:right here.
Speaker 2:1, I just want Deuce to be happy, which is a
Speaker 3:non answer. Have you considered though that if he did baseball, he would have to go to a baseball game, like, every day?
Speaker 5:Every day.
Speaker 3:And he would have to, like, physically be there almost every day.
Speaker 2:This was our big discussion with with Kyler, though.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And we landed on it should be baseball. This is, financially, unless you are a quarterback.
Speaker 3:It's kinda like what we were talking about yesterday and, you know, it depends on if you're it seems to depend on whether you're a receiver or a tight end.
Speaker 2:Now, yeah. I guess now. But the fact
Speaker 3:that Kelsey is making, like, $15,000,000 a year Right. And Davonta Adams makes 31 is insane.
Speaker 2:But maybe that's time goes. It might change.
Speaker 3:But probably not enough
Speaker 2:in in just a couple of years. Yeah. But I say,
Speaker 3:like if you're a 4th outfielder, you can probably
Speaker 2:make Kelcey money.
Speaker 3:Michael Choice. Yeah. Yeah. I say, like, the AT and T girl. Why not both?
Speaker 3:Just a boy. Let's make it happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Why not do a Dion? A boat there hasn't been a 2 sport star in years. What's the what's, what's your thoughts on that? Me?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah. Why not?
Speaker 2:Okay. You're you're like, whatever. I'm not doing it.
Speaker 3:Let's go. I know of 3 people that have I know of 3 people that have ever played in both I
Speaker 5:already tried.
Speaker 2:All American. Failed.
Speaker 3:There's Kyler, there's AJ Brown, and there's Deuce Robinson.
Speaker 2:You tried and failed what?
Speaker 5:Doing both.
Speaker 2:What did you play? What was your other sport? Were you baseball?
Speaker 5:I played, yeah, I played baseball and football for the Knowles.
Speaker 3:Why did you assume it was basketball?
Speaker 2:I actually asked him if it was baseball, but But let's be honest.
Speaker 3:He assumed you were a 2 guard. I'm just gonna be
Speaker 5:was trying to explain why.
Speaker 2:Where'd Charlie work at?
Speaker 5:Charlie Ward was.
Speaker 3:Florida State.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Okay. Florida State. Yep. Were you guys buddies?
Speaker 2:When did he go there?
Speaker 3:No. He's he's he's older than me. He's 90 2, 93. It's definitely when I was a kid. Okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah. I was I graduated in 04.
Speaker 2:I was surprised when he I mean, he was the Heisman winner, and it wasn't he? Yeah. And He was. Had a wonder what he made in the NBA. Let's check.
Speaker 2:You wanna check what he made in the NBA, somebody, or if you want me to?
Speaker 3:Not really.
Speaker 4:Well, you popped your fingers like you're
Speaker 3:a little bit. You stretched them out.
Speaker 2:Go ahead. Check. Go to basketball
Speaker 3:records. Well. Now.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 3:I'll roll. Good. He had,
Speaker 5:like, a 12 year career, I believe.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say I'll bet you
Speaker 5:13 years. Yeah. He played for a
Speaker 3:while.
Speaker 2:Let's do some guesses. And what did Charlie Ward make in the NBA?
Speaker 3:It was a little bit of
Speaker 2:a different era, obviously. Pretty you don't have to point the billionaire. Yes. He does.
Speaker 5:No. Yeah. He does. Yeah. That's great.
Speaker 5:No. Let it roll, dad.
Speaker 3:Let's go. I actually do love it.
Speaker 2:What did Charlie Ward only Blake knows.
Speaker 3:I would bet 40.
Speaker 2:You say 40. So he played started in the mid nineties.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Certainly, salaries in the mid nineties, the only guy making anything was Michael Jordan. Yeah.
Speaker 3:He was making, like, 30 plus, but outside of that
Speaker 2:yeah. 40 is pretty good. I'm gonna go
Speaker 3:Thanks, man.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna go a little higher though. Give me yeah. I'll just go 50. What do you think, Dominic?
Speaker 5:I'm gonna say I'm gonna go with 80.
Speaker 3:Final answer?
Speaker 4:Throughout his NBA career, Ward earned approximately 34,000,000. Ew.
Speaker 2:Oh. Jake's the winner.
Speaker 3:Yep. Damn
Speaker 5:it. I hate it when Jake wins.
Speaker 3:Everyone does.
Speaker 2:So he's run through that already. Right? I couldn't hold on to that. Maybe put it in Doge for 10 years. Oh.
Speaker 2:That'd be great. Let Doge go. Never. Maybe a little Bimmy.
Speaker 4:There you go.
Speaker 2:How we doing? We're fine. We're
Speaker 5:hanging out.
Speaker 3:Maybe a little maybe
Speaker 5:a little Brock Purdy for MVP.
Speaker 2:Maybe he put it all on Brock Purdy for MVP when he was plus 1325.
Speaker 3:Every time I would come in the meeting room, these guys are like, have you seen Doge?
Speaker 4:It's a wild time.
Speaker 2:It was. I mean, it went nuts for that week. I'm like, I
Speaker 3:don't know what you guys have going on over here.
Speaker 2:I believe the, Mavs just, reannounced that they accept Doge for season tickets. Did you see that yesterday? No. Take a look at that.
Speaker 3:No. I didn't see that, Kev.
Speaker 5:Hey. Have you guys seen the,
Speaker 3:GameStop? Oh, no. Movie. No. Is there a is there a
Speaker 5:movie on on the there's a movie on the GameStop deal, how the GameStop stock, like, went through the roof and this one guy had an idea and he got a bunch of people to to short or they were shorting the stock.
Speaker 3:I'm interested in Is that
Speaker 5:the one
Speaker 2:is that the one with, Slenderman?
Speaker 3:No. That's that's Slender Man.
Speaker 2:Oh. Yeah.
Speaker 5:Check it out, man. It's awesome. I watched it on the plane on on the way over here, and I was fired up.
Speaker 3:I was ready to buy some stock and something.
Speaker 2:I'm very in. Weren't you? You were on board with that big.
Speaker 3:Oh, you know who was most on board with it.
Speaker 2:Joe? Yes. Yeah. Your brother. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Is he still stoked on that? Or
Speaker 3:I think he's holding. He's hodeling.
Speaker 2:Okay. Yeah. Wasn't that around the time you told me to buy the theater?
Speaker 5:AMC. AMC.
Speaker 4:Yeah. That was next in line.
Speaker 2:The tank. Like, he had me buy it was, like, the day he told me to buy Bitcoin when it was at 70,000.
Speaker 4:I didn't say that.
Speaker 2:I always jump on Blake's
Speaker 4:I was wrong about AMC, but I was right about Doge.
Speaker 2:You're way right on Doge. Top shot.
Speaker 4:I was not in there on that either. I'm currently 500. You gotta
Speaker 5:start a blog. No. Blake's blog. No.
Speaker 3:The Jones Journal.
Speaker 2:Wanna do some birthdays? Sure. Ronda Rousey is 37. Dang.
Speaker 3:She probably should have been in this new route, roadhouse. Right? Some way, shape, or form.
Speaker 4:To get her ass kicked?
Speaker 3:I believe Joe Rogan once called her the greatest athlete of all time.
Speaker 2:Is that just because you are woke and you want all your movies to be Female. Like you love the Ghostbusters.
Speaker 3:Female Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2:Oh, yep. Love all that. How come Ronda Rousey can't be the star?
Speaker 3:Did you ever watch the trailer?
Speaker 2:No. Wanna fire that bitch up?
Speaker 3:Jeez! It's on it's in Slack. Oh, it is? Yeah, You can watch it right now if you want and I promise you
Speaker 2:Oh, but we can't Oh, yeah. Air the video then or can we? No.
Speaker 4:Oh, we can.
Speaker 3:You could watch it still. Whatever. We're just d ing around.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:It's very, very good. Have you seen it, Dominic?
Speaker 5:No. The Ronda Rousey?
Speaker 3:No. No. No. There's a there's a new roadhouse coming out, and it's fantastic. Oh, no.
Speaker 3:It's fantastic.
Speaker 2:Is it in January? Would it be worth watching it and
Speaker 3:just Literally in Slack like I just said.
Speaker 2:And there oh, okay. Slack is not January. No.
Speaker 5:Dumb money, by the way. Dumb money is the the movie that I'm talking about.
Speaker 3:Dumb money. Okay. The game stuff.
Speaker 2:We write down Blake. I can't write it down right now. I'm looking for a video.
Speaker 5:Yeah. You wanna
Speaker 2:watch that?
Speaker 5:Put it on the list.
Speaker 2:Should I not watch it? Okay.
Speaker 4:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Jeez, man. No. I'm just trying to do some stuff, and you're yelling at me. Tattoo is 62, the soccer player Tattoo. The question I have for you guys, what is Tattoo's last name?
Speaker 2:What is Tattoo's?
Speaker 3:No idea.
Speaker 2:Last name.
Speaker 3:Absolutely no idea. Okay. When saw him half a dozen times as a kid. It was awesome. Indoor indoor soccer that's so much more exciting to me than regular soccer.
Speaker 3:It was so cool. He would pop the top off when he scored a goal. I believe for a period of time, he was also the coach.
Speaker 2:I believe so. Yeah. I once interviewed him, And, I went to a an indoor soccer game when I was a kid because my brother was stoked on soccer, so they got to play at halftime of, like, the Cleveland Force game. And it was cool.
Speaker 3:It's super cool. Tighter spaces, you got walls. I mean It's a little more action packed.
Speaker 4:You got walls.
Speaker 2:You got walls.
Speaker 3:No. But, you know, that's like the lame thing about going to a soccer game is you're like, oh, they just kicked it out of bounds. Pecorari
Speaker 2:is his last name, but I never knew he had a last name. No. He's just just tattooed.
Speaker 3:Little, babe, Ā£8 6 ounce.
Speaker 2:Do you guys know the other tattoo in pop culture?
Speaker 3:Is it someone that had a
Speaker 4:bird? No.
Speaker 3:It was from Gilligan's Island. Right? Fantasy Island. Fantasy Island. There you go.
Speaker 3:Sorry.
Speaker 2:The plane the plane use little,
Speaker 3:Boss, the plane. Yeah. I'm kinda done with my racist impressions for the week.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I'm gonna leave that one alone for now.
Speaker 2:Andrew DeClerk is 51.
Speaker 3:Rangers closer.
Speaker 4:That's Jose Leclerc.
Speaker 3:Good one.
Speaker 2:So not a
Speaker 4:good one, Dominic.
Speaker 2:When my mom
Speaker 5:It was.
Speaker 2:Give him
Speaker 5:a point. Give that man a point. I actually I don't like it when Jake wins, but that was actually okay.
Speaker 2:When my mom got divorced from dad number 2, they had lived in Bay Village, Ohio. Okay. Right next to where I grew up. And, so now they got divorced. My mom had this house to herself.
Speaker 2:She sold it to Andrew DeClerk.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think I remember hearing that. For a little bit.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Ernie Camacho is 69. I only mentioned him for me and anyone close to my age who grew up in Cleveland. He was the Indians closer of my youth, like, somewhere in the, early eighties.
Speaker 3:That's a worthless birthday.
Speaker 2:Yes. But here, now I'm gonna, bring it up to 26 years old today. He's a Marlins baseball player. Was. Is Jazz Chisholm.
Speaker 3:Let it go.
Speaker 4:He helped us, almost win a fantasy title this year.
Speaker 2:He exploded onto the
Speaker 4:on the scene. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. K. Yep.
Speaker 4:Anything else you know about him?
Speaker 3:I will again reiterate
Speaker 2:that A salty player
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah. They would say.
Speaker 3:High and a guy who packs a lot of protein. Do you have anything else? I grew up around Chisholm Trail my whole life. And you did. And at no point until I met you did I think that sounds like jism.
Speaker 2:Well, that's disappointing. I know.
Speaker 3:I just never, I never thought
Speaker 2:I'm disappointed in your creativity. You should be. Because how creative is that? I mean, it's
Speaker 3:It's right there. Like who could come up with that? Who could come up with that? But, yeah. It is kinda right there also.
Speaker 3:So, yeah. I never I just never thought of Jism Trail.
Speaker 2:Now, when you lived on Brown Trail, did you
Speaker 3:That one was that one was obvious. Like a layup? That's Yeah. That's a finger roll. Okay.
Speaker 2:Julia Garner is 30. She is the spicy Ruth Langmore in Ozark.
Speaker 4:Jake hates that show.
Speaker 2:I know he shouldn't.
Speaker 3:I don't like it. I tried.
Speaker 2:Billy Moomi is 70. Creator of the spread offense. Moomi? Oh, wow.
Speaker 5:Oh, wow.
Speaker 4:What do you got for me?
Speaker 2:So he's the one bashing my attempts at humor and then
Speaker 3:he can Dude, I'm firing up. I I I'm I'm hitting the the the extra ball that's different colors and just shooting right now.
Speaker 2:Billy Moomy was the little kid in the twilight zone who had powers
Speaker 3:Dominic got it well. Push
Speaker 2:people into the cornfield.
Speaker 5:I did. That would have done real well at, like, a coach's convention.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 5:I like the AFCA, American Football Coaches Convention. Here's Jake.
Speaker 3:The AFC was what that cow mom joke.
Speaker 5:Yeah. They would have enjoyed that.
Speaker 2:Harry Styles is 30. I got Harry Styles. Hot?
Speaker 3:I'm oddly attracted to him.
Speaker 2:Nice. Good looking man.
Speaker 5:Yeah. He makes good music too. He does. He does. His last album, I think it was, or 2 albums ago is re really solid.
Speaker 2:Now does it make you feel weird though because you knew who he was when he was a kid? Or did you not really know?
Speaker 3:I see, that's the thing is I didn't really know.
Speaker 2:Like, did you know Selena Gomez as a
Speaker 3:That's the weirdest one for me.
Speaker 2:Okay. Because I never saw her in a kids show, but I've seen her now and I'm like, what's up?
Speaker 3:The weirdest one for me is not her. It's Billie Eilish.
Speaker 2:Oh. Because she was pretty famous when she was a kid?
Speaker 3:She was like 13 and famous, and now I'm like, is that what you had under there?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well, she probably grew into that. Good grief. That's a Miley Cyrus thing though for sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because I Yeah. I watched a lot Miley Cyrus when I was, when my kids were little. Yeah. It's a good show too. I've never seen it.
Speaker 2:I enjoyed it. So I can, I can enjoy that one guilt free? Jason Isbell is 45. The Great. Do you
Speaker 3:know him? Not personally.
Speaker 2:Okay. Doesn't Corby know him? Or no?
Speaker 3:Yeah. I mean, he's definitely met him a few times. I went to go see him when, we were at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:Okay. I thought he kinda knew him. Maybe he doesn't. He's a great dude.
Speaker 3:Documentary about him. Worth your time.
Speaker 2:Rehab. Big boy. Also. 79.
Speaker 3:An absolute legend. I peed my pants one time when he was rapping.
Speaker 2:Because of the rapping or
Speaker 3:The ecstasy. Yeah. It was, at hangout on the beach. Outcast, Dan.
Speaker 2:Does that oh, I know who he is. Does that, is that part of the ecstasy experience?
Speaker 3:Man, I just did not have control of myself. Apparently. Yeah. And I said to, our good friend, Mike Saroy, who we hope will join us on the Super Bowl stream. I was like, bro, I gotta go to the bathroom.
Speaker 3:But there's, like, a 1000 people behind us. And he's like, you're not going to get to that bathroom in the next 10 minutes.
Speaker 2:And I was like, okay. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. And then it just dries on you?
Speaker 2:It's
Speaker 3:I think I went back and changed. Okay. Yeah. I just let it fly. Also, another note about that, it was about 1 o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 2:Yeah. None of this is, like, a good advertisement. Hey. This is Jake for ecstasy.
Speaker 3:I mean, I had a
Speaker 2:great Just make sure you bring a change of clothes.
Speaker 3:I had a fantastic day, but at that point, I was just, like, look, this the gallery is like, yeah. This is fantastic. You don't have to tell us you had a fantastic day.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You did ecstasy. Yeah. I did. It's probably, like, gonna be a good day.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Michael c Hall, 53.
Speaker 4:The great Dexter.
Speaker 5:Is that Dexter? Yeah. How was the ring? You on that one, Blake?
Speaker 4:It was fine. It was a good season until the very end, which really, really, really bummed me out.
Speaker 3:He came out?
Speaker 4:No. It well, I shouldn't say that. I should I don't think it's worth your time, but I as a Dexter fan, I I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2:Go ahead and spoil it. I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 4:Well, you know, the whole show is just like Dexter always gets away with it. Like, that's kinda how the season builds. It's like, oh, Dexter's in trouble, then somehow he gets away
Speaker 2:with it.
Speaker 3:Wiggles his way out.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah. Well, at the end, the last season, he discovers, or, like, rediscovers his son. Like, his son finds him because he's in, like, Alaska or something. The kid that he had with, Rita Yeah.
Speaker 4:Of course. Baby that was left in the blood after the Trinity killer. Okay. I know a lot about Dexter.
Speaker 2:K.
Speaker 4:Okay. The baby was Just like just like he was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Well, then he's he gets sent off and lives with Rita's parents. And so in this final season, the son finds Dexter and they reunite, and he sees that he has a lot of his qualities in him. He, like, kills an animal or something. And so that's
Speaker 3:boring story I've ever heard of my life.
Speaker 4:Starts to train him
Speaker 2:To be Dexter?
Speaker 4:Kind of in a way. Yeah. And so they then they meet this other killer. Anyway
Speaker 2:Rocky montage, they're
Speaker 3:At the
Speaker 4:very end at the very end Yeah. The sun discovers, like, what Dexter is, like, truly, and the sun kills him.
Speaker 2:Kills Dexter. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 4:And the whole point of
Speaker 2:the show That that's it. Comes around full circle is perfect.
Speaker 4:Yeah. I get it. To kill that. Dexter always gets away with it. And at the very end, like, his own son is the one that eventually takes down Dexter.
Speaker 2:I feel I
Speaker 3:don't know anything about this show, but that sounds awesome.
Speaker 2:The way you just described it sounds great.
Speaker 4:No. It's not great. Dexter just dies alone in a forest after his son shoots him. That's that's horrible.
Speaker 3:Because it's
Speaker 1:That's a
Speaker 4:terrible death for Dexter.
Speaker 2:That's what Dexter did. He killed people that were bad.
Speaker 4:And I don't know. I just I learned
Speaker 2:it from you, dad.
Speaker 4:Yeah. They dressed up. That's what
Speaker 3:I said.
Speaker 4:I didn't like it.
Speaker 3:Spoiler alert if you don't wanna hear this. That's why I've always said it.
Speaker 2:We're late. We're deep into it.
Speaker 3:No. No. No. On the the next thing I'm gonna say is The Shield. I always I've always thought that the reason that that is the best television show I've ever watched is because they tie the whole thing up from episode 1 to the last episode.
Speaker 3:Yes. Like, they plant something in the first episode and 80 episodes later, they finally pay it off. That, you know Now,
Speaker 2:generally, though, you say, when it comes to the shield, and then you say spoiler alert, like, you don't go, hey, spoiler alert, as if it would be anything people could talk about.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're probably right, but still. I said spoilers, so f off.
Speaker 2:Did you do the shield?
Speaker 4:No. You would
Speaker 2:love it.
Speaker 3:You would love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You have to watch it. Let's take take this.
Speaker 4:What about me makes you think I would like it?
Speaker 3:I don't know. You're a cool guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You're awesome. What an awesome show. You mock
Speaker 4:the books I read, you mock Dexter, then all of a sudden, don't
Speaker 3:do it.
Speaker 4:You'd love the show.
Speaker 3:It's it's it's I like your Jake imitation. It's better than my Duane Caroll, Pauley
Speaker 2:Shor is 56.
Speaker 4:You saw him.
Speaker 3:Didn't we just do this?
Speaker 2:Well, we talked Pauley Shore, but I don't remember why. It wasn't because it was his birthday.
Speaker 4:It was after A whistle. A whistle. Yeah. He's doing the Mr. Simmons reboot, but
Speaker 3:Jake was
Speaker 4:Jake was talking about, him seeing the Comtown guy, then you said, oh, I once saw Pauley Shore.
Speaker 2:Oh, is he taking notes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:He he
Speaker 4:did a show off of this.
Speaker 2:Off notes.
Speaker 3:And
Speaker 4:then so he's, what, 56 today? That's still young for Pauley Shore.
Speaker 3:That's just how old he is.
Speaker 2:Well, Blake thought he was, like,
Speaker 3:That's not that long ago. Yeah.
Speaker 4:We're bogging down. Should I Yes.
Speaker 3:Continue, Dan.
Speaker 4:Can we go?
Speaker 3:Dominic has to go. Born on
Speaker 2:this day, not alive anymore. Frederick Douglass. Debates. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3:Lincoln Douglas? My the only one who's had the most famous series of debates that have ever occurred?
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't know. Do you know? No?
Speaker 3:Well, I'm not just gonna look at the only black guy here.
Speaker 2:I read, I read the Frederick Douglass book. It's great.
Speaker 3:You've never heard of the Lincoln Douglass debates?
Speaker 2:No. Fill us in there, Dominic.
Speaker 5:It happened.
Speaker 2:I feel like back in those days, pretty easy to pick a winner. No.
Speaker 3:I mean, that was a that was, like, a famous thing, dude. Like, Abraham Lincoln or Frederick douglas debated, like, half a dozen times or something, and it was like a healing moment for the nation. Mhmm. It's thought of as, like, one of the high points of discourse and you know what? Whatever.
Speaker 2:I'm interested. I need to know.
Speaker 4:Brought the nation together, at a time like that.
Speaker 3:Like Ted Lasso.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah. I mean, they surely, they wouldn't fight in a war, you know, around that time or anything.
Speaker 2:That's when they did agree that, hey, the 40 acres, per man thing. Yeah. Let's do that.
Speaker 4:Very fair.
Speaker 3:How about a mule? As long
Speaker 2:as, as long as you stay alive, we're gonna do this. Got it.
Speaker 3:Wait. I'm 100 I'm a 100% wrong.
Speaker 4:Golly.
Speaker 3:Were you gonna not gonna say anything?
Speaker 4:What is it? So
Speaker 3:what was it? It's it's Douglas, but it's not Franklin.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So Lincoln's debating a black man in in the age of slavery. Okay. God dang it.
Speaker 4:Is this or
Speaker 3:Don't just yell slate.
Speaker 2:Who was it? Now who is the Douglas?
Speaker 3:Stephen Douglas.
Speaker 2:Oh, from My Three Sons?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:You must be just attending
Speaker 3:Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglas were, like, very close.
Speaker 4:This is our lowest
Speaker 3:I do know that. No. It's not.
Speaker 4:It is. This is the worst moment we've ever had.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But you thought I thought they debated. That there are public debates between a white man and a black man Frederick 1850.
Speaker 3:Frederick Douglas was like a public intellectual. He was Yes.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 3:Okay. So I'm just saying, like, it was not impossible that he could have been in involved in a debate. He was friends with Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 4:We had Liz Bruning on and for, like, a little bit, we did a respectable job.
Speaker 3:Bit of legitimacy.
Speaker 4:We were okay for a little bit.
Speaker 2:So he debated someone named Douglas, but it wasn't about
Speaker 4:Steven. Yeah. From whatever.
Speaker 3:Am I wrong that Frederick Douglas and Abraham Lincoln were in the front? Just keep going.
Speaker 4:Have to read the next birthday.
Speaker 2:Robert tractor trailer.
Speaker 3:Oh, Dan.
Speaker 2:No longer alive. But, yes, he won that trade. So this isn't the anniversary of that. Steven Douglas.
Speaker 3:Yes. Steven Douglas. Definitely white. Thank you, Gary. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3:That is,
Speaker 2:they were probably their debate was, you know, how to how long to extend like, we should have more slavery. And, Lincoln just wanted a little more and Stephen Douglas
Speaker 3:After their second meeting, Frederick Douglas became a respected adviser to Lincoln. I
Speaker 4:mean, was Tractor Trailer like a good player?
Speaker 3:He was in college.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And, of course, Donnie Nelson came in studio with us. Donnie Nelson who traded tractor trailer for Dirk. Yeah. I
Speaker 3:believe it was like, the body wasn't even cold.
Speaker 2:It was that morning. Yeah. He, died, and I asked him if he won the trade. And Dirk was in what? Year 14?
Speaker 2:10 to 12. Yeah. You know, just coming off an MVP season. Yeah. And he did.
Speaker 3:And, the best part about that is Donnie Nelson laughed at that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well, he Donnie Nelson's a to me, a great dude. Never did anything untoward towards me. And
Speaker 3:On the 11th anniversary of Lincoln's death in 1876,
Speaker 2:my god.
Speaker 3:Douglas delivered a speech at the dedication of the Freedmen's monument in Washington.
Speaker 2:Also born on this day now dead.
Speaker 5:Alright. I'm out of here. Wait. This is the worst episode I've ever Yep. Been a part of.
Speaker 2:Are you really out?
Speaker 3:Because we're almost done. I need to distance myself.
Speaker 5:Hey, I need you guys to text me. I need a bluey, a couple blueys to to watch.
Speaker 4:Well, we're trying to watch We just got 2 new episodes.
Speaker 5:I haven't haven't picked up I haven't picked up any good ones. I watched, like, a couple.
Speaker 2:You don't like them?
Speaker 3:I need
Speaker 5:you guys to send send me some I just they've just been okay. I'm I'm waiting for, like you guys have talked about some heat coming from Bluey.
Speaker 3:My favorite episode of all time.
Speaker 5:I need some Rex. I need some Bluey Rex. Dance mode. Recommendations.
Speaker 2:Where are you?
Speaker 4:Would you would you agree, Blake? Yeah. Dance mode's good.
Speaker 3:Dance mode's good.
Speaker 5:I'm in Hawaii. I'm on I'm on the porch.
Speaker 2:What? Is
Speaker 5:it getting windy?
Speaker 2:What island? No.
Speaker 5:Maui. Okay.
Speaker 3:Oprah. There.
Speaker 2:Is that where Oprah is? Is that where she caused the fire
Speaker 3:and Mhmm.
Speaker 2:To burn out all? Yeah. All the property. All the property? Yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah. I think we're right across from an island that she, like, owns a part of or something like that. I know I heard her name.
Speaker 2:I've been to Kauai.
Speaker 5:Cool. Don't do it, Jake.
Speaker 2:I don't really know what
Speaker 5:you're thinking.
Speaker 2:What I did, the interesting if you want an interesting, Kawhi fact
Speaker 3:You know exactly what I was thinking. Mhmm. Yeah. Forces way out of San Antonio.
Speaker 2:That's that's quality. Yeah. Quality sports comedy. Is it? It's gonna get us right up that apple chart.
Speaker 2:That'll get us past, the low post.
Speaker 4:No. I think we're moving down after today.
Speaker 3:Oh, we are? Oh, no. Michael drove all the way up here.
Speaker 2:We're available on Apple Podcast. Now, Dominic. At their second meeting Oh,
Speaker 3:I love that. 1664.
Speaker 5:I love that.
Speaker 2:But, wait. What was I talking about? Oh, Kauai. If it since just me being there is not actually interesting.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:But when I was there, when you're eating at a, restaurant, as people will eat at restaurants, like, out on the the patio or something, there's always chickens walking around. And, of course, you know, being the investigative journalist I am, I'm saying, hey, man. What's the deal with all these chickens walking around? And they told us it is because of, oh, the hurricane that happened a few years ago. I guess there was a lot of chickens on one of the islands, and the hurricane displaced them.
Speaker 2:And now there's just chickens all over the place because then, chickens, much like rabbits, will have relations all the time and then make more chickens.
Speaker 3:Interesting. It's
Speaker 2:like all them eggs, you know. They would become chickens if you weren't eating them.
Speaker 3:That's a great point. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's a great point. So watch out for the chickens there, Dominic.
Speaker 3:Have you ever been to a place, like another country? It might have been like this when you were in Mexico that had, like free range monkeys.
Speaker 2:No. It's wild. I would love that.
Speaker 3:I mean, they're like, in Costa Rica, they're like squirrels.
Speaker 2:I think I would love, but I've also heard Yeah.
Speaker 3:They just, like don't
Speaker 2:take your stuff.
Speaker 3:They definitely will. They definitely will. And they're small.
Speaker 2:It's one of those things that sounds cool until you got a monkey in your yard.
Speaker 3:It's not like, like a threatening primate, but they are, like, everywhere, And, they just kinda run around. Come up and beg for food.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I feel like I'd like to be in that world somewhere.
Speaker 3:I don't have a clue what that means.
Speaker 2:Just the whole, you know I think I
Speaker 3:don't even I can't even begin to
Speaker 2:I think we all know what I mean.
Speaker 5:Blake, will you save this thing? Bring this thing back up. Alright.
Speaker 2:Just a couple more birthdays. Born on this day, now dead, Wade Wilson, former cowboy quarterback.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Quarterbacks coach as well.
Speaker 2:Died on this day still dead. Wade Wilson. He closed the loop how about that that's ever heard of anything like that
Speaker 3:that's always been my dream
Speaker 2:It'd be kind of cool to know you don't know what year,
Speaker 3:but it's gonna be that day.
Speaker 2:But it's gonna be on your birthday because that means you could kinda ball out after your birthday. If you make it past your birthday. Yeah. For sure. You're, like, on a flight and somebody's, like, nervous.
Speaker 2:Oh, I think this flight. Don't worry. It's not gonna crash.
Speaker 3:It's not gonna crash. I've already cleared it.
Speaker 2:I'm on it.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Like Lebron. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Boy, that'd be great. Can we work that out somehow? How do you get how can we get to that?
Speaker 3:Well, not God.
Speaker 2:Also died on this day, in 1988, Heather O'Rourke. She was the, the kid in Poltergeist. You've never seen that by chance.
Speaker 3:That, I think I've seen a documentary about that.
Speaker 2:TV. Yeah. Like, there's a poltergeist curse.
Speaker 3:Curse. Yeah. There was, like, 4 or 5 different people that had, like, really really messed up stuff happened to him that were in that movie.
Speaker 2:And died on this day in 2020, Dustin Diamond.
Speaker 3:Oh, Screech.
Speaker 4:Jake.
Speaker 3:Don't don't put that on me.
Speaker 2:Screech from Saved by the Bell.
Speaker 4:I love guys in porn.
Speaker 2:Was he in porn?
Speaker 3:I think as a last desperate Hail Mary, he did do a little a little porno. Mhmm. Yeah. Also stabbed a guy in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2:Today in the history
Speaker 3:Yeah. Look it up. Okay.
Speaker 2:The whole Slenderman thing?
Speaker 3:No. I don't think it was I don't think it was Slenderman related, but Was Wisconsin, though? That was. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, Dominic, do you have any closing remarks
Speaker 3:for
Speaker 2:our road trip here to beautiful Oklahoma?
Speaker 5:Make sure you hit make sure you hit Capirce's and get you a burger.
Speaker 2:Extra Is that like the one place in this town? There doesn't seem to be
Speaker 3:a lot here.
Speaker 5:One place.
Speaker 3:Is there a town?
Speaker 5:No. There's one place. It's called Pierce's, but Deuce used to call it Kapiercys when he was little.
Speaker 2:K.
Speaker 5:So we call it Kapiercys. And, and their burger is not good if you're trying to, you know, keep it on the healthy healthy road, but it's the taste is delicious.
Speaker 3:When are when are we entering the portal?
Speaker 5:Every day. We're just in and out of the portal. That's just all we're doing now in college football. It's
Speaker 3:Success success is least not owned and rent is due every day.
Speaker 5:I freaking hate it. It's
Speaker 2:terrible. You hate the portal?
Speaker 5:I do. I hate all of it.
Speaker 2:Do you think that they should have yeah. But what about some kind of a I would think a, you sign them to an actual contract. And you
Speaker 5:have They they gotta clean it up.
Speaker 2:Like Yeah. But I feel like if if they did that with all the players and you had to honor the contract, then I would I would think any coach that signed a contract also has to honor this if you sign a 3 year deal, you're getting paid for 3 years for sure, and you have to work for 3. If you get fired, you can go somewhere else. And we have to pay you still. But, like, everybody has to honor their contract.
Speaker 2:Wouldn't it all be solved that way? And now you sign a 4 year deal with USC or whatever? Okay. Honor your contract. I suppose Yeah.
Speaker 5:It it would never it will never all be solved, but whatever it is right now needs to be cleaned up badly. It's an absolute mess.
Speaker 3:I mean,
Speaker 2:we knew it was coming away or something. Yeah. That Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's how
Speaker 2:it usually goes though.
Speaker 3:If they are going to continue to try to push
Speaker 2:the responsibility of paying these players to other people, it's going to this is how it gets out of control. I mean, you wanted it. You wanted to not pay players, and this is what you get. Yeah. You get bidding wars everywhere.
Speaker 2:So this is what the NCAA kind of wanted. They just wanted to not be responsible for for giving any money to someone.
Speaker 5:Yeah. Every single player on the UW offense is gone. Like, their whole offense will be a completely different team this year.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And I mean
Speaker 5:11 starters. But, again, starter
Speaker 2:Their coach would have to honor his contract.
Speaker 5:Yeah. And not one player is is returning.
Speaker 3:Just just look at Alabama's decommits. You know? Yeah. I mean, they've and it's a little bit different because he resigned. You know?
Speaker 3:It wasn't like he left for another job, but they've lost, like, 8 guys in their recruiting class already. This has been some great sports talk.
Speaker 2:That's why we have Dominic on. Oh, was that your closing remarks?
Speaker 5:Yeah. That was it. I love you guys.
Speaker 3:Sorry about the whole Steven Frederick Douglas thing. Go ahead. White, black. I don't know. I mixed it up.
Speaker 5:Glad you made it out down to the rat ranch. Go see some cows and go get you a burger at Capiercys.
Speaker 2:When are you, back in the area?
Speaker 5:We'll be there for the, the baseball tournament here in, like, a week or a month. Sorry. Like, next month. We're we'll be at the den. Deuce and I will be at the den.
Speaker 3:Let's let's what do we do? Forward tease that or backwards tease or some sort of That's gonna be forward.
Speaker 5:Yep. We're gonna tease. Yep. We're gonna forward tease Deuce and I in the den, Kipp and Bodie, no holds bar, 2 minutes straight sports. We're going deep into sports.
Speaker 5:We're gonna serve solve all the issues in sports.
Speaker 3:That sounds great. Alright, man.
Speaker 5:Tune in.
Speaker 3:See you, man.
Speaker 2:Alright. Thanks. That's the great Dominic Robinson. And thanks to, to our, any closing remarks from our hosts?
Speaker 3:Glad you all made
Speaker 2:it up. Okay.
Speaker 3:You're pretty thoroughly disappointed with this experience? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Alright. Thanks. Adios, mofo.
Speaker 3:No puppet, no puppet, no motherfucking puppet, you're the puppet. You're the puppet. Alright. Alright. Alright.
Speaker 3:Alright. Alright.