Houselights from The State News

Co-hosts Liz and Claire, with the help of very special guest Jack, discuss Halloween the best and most overrated costumes and debate over what makes a Halloween song.

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Liz:

Hello, and welcome back to House Lights, your one stop shop for everything you need to hear about this week in the world of entertainment. As always, I'm your host Liz Noss joined by my beautiful, wonderful cohost Claire Donahoe. And our amazing guest, Jack. It's his first time on House Lights. Yay.

Liz:

Jack Williams.

Jack:

Glad to be here.

Liz:

Yes. Yay. Our, our good friend, our roomie, I feel like we talk about you more than, like, you've actually been on, obviously.

Jack:

Yeah. And I've listened a few times, and I I I'm a little surprised I come up, but, you know, it's great.

Liz:

And I'm really disturbed when because we because I think it's, like, really disturbed that I come up so often. Yeah.

Jack:

I think the first time was last year you were talking to Gabby about something. She had her on him.

Liz:

Oh, well, yeah. We were talking about your affinity for the bell jar.

Jack:

Yeah.

Liz:

Yeah. Which is really passed around the newsroom.

Jack:

Yeah.

Liz:

Yeah. Well, this time, we're not gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about Halloween. But first, talking about Gabby, Claire would like to take over the 5 minute tangent this week. Yes.

Liz:

And talk a little bit about, you know, what she missed Yes. On our episode.

Claire:

I was out of office last week, and I watched the episode with Gabby and Liz, which was wonderful. I laughed Thank you. Very hard. But, you know, I had some notes. So on the record Notes.

Claire:

I think The Notebook is a little toxic. I think someone had said, Claire doesn't think it's toxic. I think it's still a good watch, but you have to have critical thinking. When Harry Met Sally is actually really good.

Jack:

Love that movie.

Claire:

It's I I was kind of misremembering it. And then when I listened to the episode back, I was like Yeah.

Liz:

Because when we were off the air, you said that Yeah. You thought they were a little toxic Yeah. Harry and Sally.

Claire:

And then you made a great point, and you were like, that's just how it goes. And Right. And I'm like, well, yes. Not that

Liz:

not not that people toxic. Toxic. The other

Claire:

yep. Yep. People did other people on the record. Let's get both those things straight. I didn't watch Gilmore Girls.

Claire:

I watched the seasons with Jess, though, and I'm noting this because you guys called him Jesse.

Liz:

Oh, that's really embarrassing. And I needed to come on here and say Did you guys just expose us? And Awesome. Wow.

Claire:

Thank God I wasn't there because then you guys talked about La La Land, and I probably would have started tearing up. And Gabby was like, La La Land is too emo. I don't like it, but it's realistic. And I

Jack:

She called it emo.

Liz:

Like, emotional. Yeah. Short for emotional.

Claire:

Is that what she said? I wrote that.

Liz:

Yes. I mean, I believe you. Yeah. I don't remember.

Claire:

She said she was like, it's too sad.

Liz:

And I

Claire:

was like, well, yes. But I

Jack:

was thinking, like, goth kinda emo.

Liz:

No. Well, they just

Claire:

certainly not, girl. And I do agree. Oh, she said that because she was like, it reminds me too much of the real life Emma Stone and Andrew Garfield relationship, and I said that I agree with that. Those are my updates. I was ill, but I'm back.

Claire:

Everyone take care of yourselves.

Liz:

Thanks. Nice.

Claire:

And now let's talk about Halloween.

Liz:

Can I talk

Claire:

about Halloween? Can I just say really quick that my next note was, Halloween is really important to me because 1 year, I was a Christmas tree, and then I was a fridge, and then I was a Thanksgiving table?

Jack:

Okay.

Claire:

I used to dress up as, like

Liz:

Oh my god.

Jack:

Like, I'm

Claire:

on the topic of costumes. I used to dress up as, like, objects because we had a costume contest. And since middle school, my costumes have just tanked. Like, they've just been really mid. So I wanna talk about the craziest costume you guys have ever seen and toot my own horn opening this conversation.

Liz:

I'll never forget the first time you showed me a picture of you as a Thanksgiving table. Put it in here. Just kidding. We're not gonna do that.

Claire:

Go to the state news Instagram. Go to the state news Instagram, and

Liz:

you will see your it was actually crazy.

Claire:

It's just it's just an important holiday for a lot of reasons, and I just wanna

Liz:

Oh, yeah. I just love an event.

Claire:

Share that personal connection.

Liz:

Yeah. I love an event. I love a theme. Yeah. I love to spend money on things that I'm gonna throw away afterwards.

Jack:

Exactly. Exactly. I just brought this, this black button down, like, sequin shirt. Wow.

Liz:

It's like,

Jack:

I'm just never gonna wear that Why? After Halloween. It's for my costume.

Claire:

No. No. I mean, why?

Liz:

No. Why are you

Claire:

not gonna wear this?

Liz:

Yeah. Why would you never wear it?

Jack:

I don't know. I was looking at it this morning, and I was like, this could be like a

Liz:

A statement piece.

Jack:

Or like a bar shirt. You know? Like, it could be fun that way.

Claire:

Next time you're on house lights, just wear that.

Liz:

Oh, I will. It's your house light shirt.

Jack:

Yeah.

Liz:

Yeah. Well, I

Jack:

will be wearing it this weekend, but Boom.

Liz:

I don't know. Excited to see.

Claire:

Are we sharing what we're gonna be this year?

Liz:

Not yet. I keep that for my Instagram post.

Claire:

Are you gonna be sharing? This episode's coming out on Halloween. Right?

Liz:

Yeah. But, yeah, I won't post until after Halloween. Sorry, guys. And it's their own.

Claire:

She's quite cryptic. Jack, do you wanna share or no?

Jack:

I can.

Liz:

You don't have I

Claire:

mean, no pressure, guys.

Liz:

I'm I'm

Jack:

gonna be, the guy from All That Jazz. If you guys are familiar with that.

Liz:

Little Bob Fosse moment?

Jack:

Yeah. It's like Bob Fosse.

Claire:

I'm not familiar, but

Jack:

I'm happy to share. Chicago?

Claire:

Yeah. He,

Jack:

like, did that. He,

Liz:

like, made

Jack:

that, basically. How about you? What do you mean?

Liz:

Let's move on.

Jack:

What do you mean?

Claire:

I'm gonna be a dragonfly. All my roommates are gonna be bugs, and one of my roommates is gonna be an exterminator because she hates bugs so much. We all rotate, like, killing bugs for her.

Jack:

Is that the one I know?

Claire:

Yeah. Yeah. Sonya. That's fine. So that's the group thing.

Claire:

And then I'm on the other night, I'm gonna be Alice from Don't Worry Darling.

Liz:

Like, when she has, like, a blood on her.

Claire:

The Florence Pugh movie with Harry Styles.

Jack:

Yeah. No. I never saw that.

Claire:

It's a very simple costume. It was quite last minute, but I've decided. And I bought the fake blood.

Liz:

That's really, really cute.

Jack:

I did fake blood once. I was, I think it was my junior year of high school. I was Patrick Bateman. Okay.

Liz:

You know? That's so Jack. That's so Jack.

Jack:

No. That was really in that year, I feel like. But that that was the one time I did fake blood.

Liz:

I wonder what comes off easier, fake blood or, like, the glitter. Because last year, me and my roommates went really crazy with, like, the spray glitter, and, like, it was actually in our lungs for, like Hey.

Claire:

That's a girl, like, ever that literally, like comes from a big layer

Liz:

of skin. Me and my roommate last year, we were Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie, from the farm show that they did. I can't remember the name right now. But, you know, where they're both they like the simple life where these 2 it's like reality show, these 2 rich girls go to a farm and they have to do, like, farm tasks and that's, like, the whole premise of it. And we got a lot of glitter and our entire balcony was just covered in glitter.

Liz:

And then also the inside of our lungs. Because, like, I accidentally breathe. Like, I accidentally had ill spread it. My brain was was like like spraying it, like, on me. And I think the same thing's gonna happen with this one of this year's costumes.

Liz:

I can't let you see.

Jack:

You gotta be careful with that stuff. I had a I had a friend my senior high school. This was on Halloween. This would have been a prom.

Claire:

But she random date?

Jack:

No. No. No. It was it was prom. And I had a little after party at my house, and she had this, like, really, very nice, like, dress with, they have these, like, very tiny sequins all over them.

Jack:

And I I I still find them, like, in my basement to this day. Like, just, like, all around, like, in the carpet.

Claire:

Oh, like, look in your eyes.

Liz:

I'm just like, seriously, see them.

Jack:

Find them all over the place. Like, it's actually crazy.

Liz:

So yeah. Yeah.

Claire:

Gotta be careful listening.

Liz:

So she's listening. Come pick that up.

Claire:

Get your sequins.

Jack:

Get that up. Clean those up. I don't wanna find those anymore.

Liz:

Let's talk about no longer our amazing costumes that we're gonna be wearing. But what we've seen? The most overdone costumes. Okay. Because I wanna be a hater, not the ones that we've so, like, I've seen some.

Liz:

It hasn't been officially Halloweekend yet, but I feel like Mhmm. On TikTok, I've seen, like, some influencers already starting.

Jack:

I've seen some people.

Liz:

And we went to

Jack:

Yeah. Ann Arbor.

Liz:

Ann Arbor, this past weekend, and we played a really fun game where who's going to the bar and who's dressing up for Halloween. And it's really hard

Claire:

It's harder than you.

Liz:

When they're just wearing, like, a crop top and maybe some tights with a skirt. And you're like, this kind of

Claire:

Halloween, people are trying to, like they're either trying to be cute or, like, super funny sometimes.

Liz:

Yeah. Mhmm.

Claire:

So I can imagine that

Jack:

it is spectrum. I like you you put your hands

Claire:

like that.

Jack:

Yeah. No.

Liz:

It is just like a spectrum.

Claire:

Yeah.

Liz:

I, one cute couple's Halloween costume. I know this is probably a little overdone, but I saw it at the Riv this weekend. It was like a little Peter Parker Spider Man and then like a Spider Gwen.

Jack:

Oh, that's cute.

Liz:

And they were really cute. And I actually got, really depressed when I saw the spider Gwen walk up. Oh, but, you know, it's fine. I was like I was like, oh my god. My guy's so cute.

Liz:

And I was like,

Claire:

oh. I saw a

Liz:

video of so awesome.

Claire:

I saw a video of the Rio birds.

Liz:

What? Wait. Really? I thought we were the only ones that that was almost our concept.

Claire:

It was a couple, and they were do they were the blue macaw birds from Rio. And I

Liz:

just See. We have the different birds. We were thinking about being the will. I. Am birds.

Liz:

The the ones that And the Jamie Foxx birds.

Claire:

That sing hot wings.

Liz:

Oh, yeah. We thought but then we were, like, we we were, like, texting, like, last week, and we're like, how are we gonna gonna do that? Yeah. I just That makes no sense. We can't be the

Jack:

1st person.

Claire:

You can, like, really, you know, like, grab. It's just more of a

Liz:

one idea because I was you're obviously the yellow bird if we were going to do that. The one thing I thought about was, like, his little, Fedora thing? Yeah. He well, he has, like, this hat that's like a bottle cap. Oh.

Liz:

I was like, that's the one thing I can think of you, but I'm like, how else would you serve Rio bird? Right.

Claire:

And it it's something like something so important to us Yes. That we wouldn't wanna risk it and not do it justice.

Liz:

Exactly.

Claire:

So almost like, don't even try it all, which is kind of a bad way to think about it, but we had to give it up. But, yeah, I saw a video of 2 of a couple beautifully executing the Rio,

Liz:

You should send that to me.

Claire:

The, like, blue macawards. Yeah.

Jack:

Yeah. No. It's really fun to come up with costumes like that. And then it's the week before Halloween, and you're like, how

Liz:

How do I

Jack:

how do

Liz:

I How do I even yell? It's like in my nose.

Jack:

I should've done this, like, weeks ago.

Liz:

Like, figuring

Jack:

it out.

Liz:

One good example of this is, like, me and my friends, like, we just, like, log Halloween costumes throughout the year when we think about them. That's what I should do. One of them because, like, I have 2 roommates. So, like, we have to we, like, try to do a trio costume. And one of them was, the father, the son, and the holy ghost.

Liz:

It's a good one. And I looked at that, and I was like, how do I do that? What does that mean? What is it like, what are we doing? Yeah.

Liz:

Like, is it an old man and, like, a younger boy and then just, like, a ghost?

Jack:

Yeah.

Liz:

Or would we make it inherently more religious? Like, I don't Yeah. I don't know. Whatever.

Claire:

I kind of like costumes, though, where, like, you look at them and like, I've got I wanna know your takes on this. Like, do you prioritize someone knowing what you are? Because I have a couple roommates. They're like, they need my costume needs to be obvious enough that when you look at me,

Liz:

you know what I am.

Claire:

I don't wanna have to, like, explain it to people. But I kind of like like, if you were an old man and your roommate was younger boy and then the third one was like a ghost,

Liz:

I'd look at you all in this field. Yeah.

Claire:

I'd look at you and I'd be like, what's going on? But then if you explained it and you're all together, that

Liz:

would be very Nice.

Claire:

You get, like, extra points

Liz:

in writing.

Jack:

I had that last year. I was, the Lana Del Rey cover with the what what album? Norman Rockwell.

Liz:

Yeah. I

Jack:

was I was the guy on the Norman Rockwell cover.

Liz:

Well, it was so easy.

Jack:

And no one but, like, no one I got a lot of, like, what are you? You know? But then, like, once I said it, they're like, oh, that's good. I

Liz:

love that.

Claire:

Well, you're just wearing a pair

Liz:

of khaki pants and a blanks.

Jack:

Yeah. They're just, like, white pants and a black sweater.

Claire:

Yeah. That was it. But I love those costumes. Like, it's okay if you have to tell someone.

Liz:

Oh, yeah. No. And they get it. I mean, Nicole Richie. Like Yeah.

Liz:

And then, like But that's so good. I did Katy Perry's, like, iconic. Yeah. The teenage dream with the Hershey Kisses.

Jack:

But it's also it's such a great conversation starter too.

Liz:

Yeah. Yeah.

Jack:

If you're not if you don't if someone doesn't know what it is and then they ask and then you'd be like, oh, it's this.

Liz:

And then if

Jack:

they still don't get it, you can, like, explain. But so, yeah, that's I I I do think there's sort of an art in picking something that's, like, not too unrecognizable,

Liz:

but

Jack:

also, like, something that

Liz:

makes you think. A thinker.

Claire:

A think Exactly. I like the puns too. Like, now I'm thinking of that old man, young son, and then it goes

Liz:

You can put that in

Claire:

the pocket for later. Something that's kind of, like, a bit of a pun or, like, you're not you're dressing up. One of my notes was, like, costumes that are not the thing. Like, you're dressing up as something, but you're representing it in a different way.

Liz:

I think those are good. Yeah. Those are good.

Claire:

I can't think of a single example

Liz:

to say

Claire:

right now. Yes.

Liz:

There was one that I saw that was like, I'm an espresso martini, and it was like a brown shirt and like a black skirt. Yeah. And it's like, okay. Yeah. That is a concept costume, but, like, personally, I wouldn't do that.

Jack:

I would get a few laughs, though.

Liz:

Yeah. Yeah.

Jack:

I would laugh if someone told me that they were drinking.

Claire:

But would it be overdone right now because of, like, Sabrina Carpenter? I was gonna say calling back to, like, what ones are most overdone. I think I only have a problem if a costume is overdone if, like, a it's based on, like, a movie that just came out or something. Like, I'm thinking of, like, Barbie or something where it's, like, everyone's doing that.

Liz:

Oh my god. So many guys were Ken last year. Yeah. It was insane. Really?

Liz:

Oh, so?

Jack:

I didn't

Liz:

see Yeah. I saw saw, like, the guys in, like, the fur. I usually don't. Oh, yeah. I saw a lot a lot of

Claire:

I usually don't care if a costume's overdone. I'm like, if you because if you executed it well, a well executed costume

Liz:

can't be like But there are some ones that are just, like, tacky.

Jack:

Or, like, problematic.

Claire:

Well, yeah, that's a different

Liz:

that's a whole different No. But, like oh,

Jack:

I mean, like, they're overdone problematic. Cop like the, the cops and robbers thing where it'll be, like, an inmate and a cop.

Liz:

Yeah.

Jack:

I find that inherent in the world.

Claire:

Seem like yeah.

Liz:

I see those all the time. Yeah. Hang around hang out in Dublin, like, on Thursday.

Jack:

No. You'll see you'll

Liz:

see, like really 17,000 of them. Yeah. My first overdone one that I wrote down was Joker and Harley Quinn.

Jack:

Yeah. Me too.

Liz:

That's true. Me and Jack were talking about that because there's gonna be a lot of that because of Lady Gaga and but I feel like it's still gonna be the old version. Mhmm.

Jack:

Yeah. I mean, there was a lot of that when the Suicide Squad movie came out. It was so weird. But it was the Jared Leto version, and it was, like, just weird. Jared Leto.

Liz:

Oh my god. Jared Leto is so weird.

Jack:

But I feel like I just see, like, I'll see, like, 20 Jokers, like, every year. I know. Guys being Joker. Yeah. And then if they have a significant other, they'll usually do the Harley Quinn which is also kinda weird because,

Liz:

that Tordon and a toxic couple.

Jack:

Exactly. Yeah. Tordon and like, their relationship is so strange and like

Liz:

I wish you wanna be that. Yeah. Exactly. They're barely a couple.

Jack:

Yeah. They're really yeah. I wouldn't even call them a couple. But, I am curious to see people doing the Lady Gaga,

Liz:

probably Yeah. Like, I will be like, okay. Fine. If somebody does that, like, alright. It's Lady Gaga.

Liz:

Yeah. Fine. Talking about Lady Gaga, did anyone listen to disease, the new Lady Gaga song? No. It was really good, guys.

Liz:

You should listen to it.

Jack:

I I will check it. I know the, the Tyler album came out

Liz:

in 1980. I did listen. I listened to that.

Claire:

I didn't listen to that

Liz:

yet, but my brother was talking about it. Did you listen to it, Jack?

Jack:

No. Not yet.

Liz:

Oh, okay. My top 3, probably sticky, Ratata, and why did I say it like that? And, like him. And that's why

Jack:

I just I will listen and get back to you

Liz:

on that. Thanks. Thanks, Jack.

Jack:

No problem.

Liz:

Get you

Claire:

my review on Ratata.

Liz:

It was Ratata. Why did I say it

Jack:

like that?

Liz:

That was weird. Ratata. Another overdone Halloween costume is just like, I don't wanna see any animal costumes without it being like a character. Like, I don't wanna see any mice. I don't wanna see I I don't wanna see any except I like yours.

Liz:

The about the dragonfly one. Well, my That's different because it's cute and it's insects. Insects are hairy, not animals.

Claire:

The tiger was confusing. My backup if the my pal.

Jack:

Uh-oh. This is

Claire:

the don't worry, darling thing. Now I just have to admit this. It was just gonna be, like, a cheetah or something. A cheetah machine.

Liz:

That's a really weird bad. Like, it's like a because it's like a hard back. Because I since they do like, that's a really I saw a cat. Look. Yeah.

Jack:

Unless you already

Liz:

have it. Leopard. Whatever. Yeah. Leopard.

Liz:

Leopard.

Claire:

Never mind.

Liz:

That's why I don't wanna have to do it. No. I don't wanna do it.

Jack:

No. The animals thing is why when we were trying to figure out if people were just going to the bar or they're dressed up for Halloween, that's why it's so hard because, like, people can put on, like, a bar top and, like

Claire:

It's just like a pattern.

Liz:

Yeah. Yeah. It's just like a dress and, like, there's ears.

Jack:

Maybe. And there were maybe some, like, makeup, like some whiskers or whatever, and then that's

Liz:

a costume. What I'm doing. Oh, so Maybe. Claire's basic.

Claire:

If my other thing doesn't come in time guys, I tapped out of Halloween. I I I set the stage of this earlier saying I was at table 1 year. Like, I'm out. Like, I don't Yeah.

Liz:

That kinda Yeah. You you kinda like to start. Yeah. So when you were at

Claire:

table, forgive me.

Liz:

Could you be a fridge again?

Claire:

It would be awesome, but

Liz:

so Weren't you like a fully stocked fridge, like, when it opened?

Claire:

Yes. It opened. That's awesome. I'll show

Liz:

you guys pictures. Yeah.

Jack:

I would love to see that.

Liz:

I've seen that. I don't wanna see that.

Claire:

If we were having a costume contest, you know, perhaps I'd

Jack:

Oh, Oh, should we do that?

Claire:

No. Don't do that now. Because I know you should do that.

Jack:

No. Oh my god.

Liz:

You just

Jack:

gave us such a good idea.

Liz:

Oh my god. Such a good idea. Say this, wherever I pull up at this address, the silence.

Jack:

We'll fix it in post.

Liz:

We'll fix it in post.

Claire:

More overdone how we cast

Liz:

My other one is just, schoolgirl, but, like, not that's not that bad. But there is a lot of that, and I think that's also an inherently weird costume.

Jack:

Yeah.

Liz:

I also have trauma with this, and I don't know if I should like, I feel like I should tell the story, but it's really long. But, basically okay. Should I give the Reader's Digest version? Sure. This is my freshman year Halloween.

Jack:

Uh-oh.

Liz:

And we were just looking for it was, like, the end of Halloween weekend, but it was actual Halloween night. It was, like, on a Sunday. And we went out the night the 2 nights before, and it was, like, last Halloween night. It was on a Sunday. There weren't that many parties, so me and my friends were kinda just, like, looking Mhmm.

Liz:

For something. And for context, which is very, very important context, me and all my friends were cowboys. That was our group costume. And so we saw that one of the frats that's that were on that was on Grand River was had their door open. There was obviously there was obviously a party happening inside.

Liz:

And so we walk in because the door is open, and it closes immediately behind us. We're like, oh, good.

Jack:

Heard this story.

Liz:

I oh, good. I've never. And so we walk in, and all the men are dressed like Steve Jobs, and all the girls are dressed like Britney Spears, like

Jack:

Oh, god.

Liz:

Schoolgirls. And we're just cowboys. So it was obviously, like, a france sorority, like, mixer sort of thing. And so then I'm like, okay. We are obviously not supposed to be here, but we might as well stay for a little bit and see what happens.

Liz:

And we're all just like, okay. And so we're just and then all literally, it takes me maybe 2 seconds for someone to tap me on the shoulder really hard and go, who do you know here? No. And me being stupid and 18 years old, I go, that one, and just point to a random guy. And they go, no, you don't.

Liz:

Get out. And I'm I'm taking out the curse words. Why? Because this is a family show. Get out.

Liz:

And then they called us, effing trespassers on the way out, and I've never returned to that frat ever again.

Jack:

Are we gonna name drop that?

Liz:

Yeah. We do. It was Asig.

Claire:

Oh, okay.

Liz:

Thanks, guys. And I loved when they would be on their roof.

Jack:

Oh, is it that one? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know those. Yep.

Liz:

So I

Claire:

was picturing farmhouse. Like, you just standing.

Liz:

Oh, no. Farmhouse would never do that to me.

Claire:

Yeah. Yeah.

Jack:

No. I would be really scared if I walked into a frat party and everyone was Steve Jobs.

Liz:

And everyone's Steve Jobs and then Britney Spears School Girls, and we're all cowboys.

Claire:

Those, like, costumes don't match, though.

Liz:

They know it. It doesn't look like they're already extra. Like, I don't know how

Jack:

it works. It sounds like they each kinda chose it separately.

Liz:

Like, they

Jack:

didn't have any. They were just kinda doing the

Liz:

same thing. Just so scary, and I'll never forget it. But that's probably why it's overdone to me because I've seen

Jack:

That's like a problem.

Liz:

Dreams a lot

Claire:

of times. Wow. Thank you for sharing that with us.

Liz:

Yes. Of course.

Claire:

It's a very vulnerable thing to have to tell.

Liz:

Does anyone else have overdone before we get into the best ones?

Jack:

You know, actually, what I've seen a lot, and I I I don't think a lot of people will really consider this overdone. But Jennifer's body, the, the scene at the end where she's got, like, the white dress Yeah.

Liz:

Yeah. Yeah. And the

Jack:

blood on the I've seen so many people do that, but I don't think people would, like, really consider that, like, an overdone costume.

Liz:

I don't think people think that it's overdone, but it is.

Jack:

Yeah. Yeah. No. It is. Yeah.

Claire:

Well, they're like The easy ones are overdone because last minute someone's like, I need

Liz:

a costume. And that's why the animal thing is, like, so overdone because it's like you can just, like, slap I a pair of ears on you and then

Jack:

move on. I had someone in my

Liz:

French butt

Jack:

say they were gonna be the Apple Store monkey. Woah. Sort of moving into best costumes.

Liz:

Yeah. That's like one of the best costumes. I thought about it, but I was like, I feel like that's gonna

Claire:

be overdone though. See, this is the problem. Like, something trends and then it's like right before it doesn't even need to be right before Halloween. Like I said, it could be a movie or something. And then you just expect, like, like, I'm gonna see a million of them now.

Jack:

Apple store monkeys? Yeah. Yeah. No. I well, because

Liz:

that I'm gonna be annoyed.

Jack:

That phone has been around for a while. I think the kid's, like, holding an iPhone 3.

Liz:

Yeah. Right?

Jack:

Like, that's been around for a while. Like so it's interesting that it's just kinda now becoming like a spam trend.

Liz:

Yeah. I hope so. That'd be nice. When winning the costume contest, if you show up to the snooze party in, Apple Store. And come to the party right here at this address.

Liz:

Uh-huh. But, anyways, talking about a movie. Mhmm. Challenger's Trio. I love it whenever I see it.

Liz:

And I think that is going to be overdone a little bit this year.

Claire:

But it's fine. But

Liz:

it's really great, and, I don't care. It should have happened to me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I should be able to do that. That's why, that's why I'm mad that it's overdone because

Jack:

I would've I would've done that.

Claire:

What?

Jack:

But

Claire:

Yo. We're right here.

Liz:

Oh, shit.

Jack:

Exactly.

Liz:

Oh my god. You're so art and you're so Patrick. Alright, guys. That's actually my costume this week. Did you come down?

Jack:

Liz is changing her answer.

Liz:

We all lied. Another one that I saw this one's really crazy. The fresh packet for shoes, that's like the silica gel. Like, you know what I'm talking about? Like, the little packet of, like

Jack:

Like, the stuff you're not supposed to eat?

Liz:

Yes. Yes. I saw someone dress up as that. That's awesome. And I really, really like that.

Liz:

And then I saw papa Louie from the papa's, like, pizzeria games.

Jack:

That's a good one. Yep.

Liz:

A lot of these are coming from this trend on Twitter that I've really loved recently where it like, a tweet will start out with, like, I hate got I hate gay Halloween. What do you mean you're blank? And then it's like the ball from like, the ball POV from Challenger. Yes.

Jack:

I got

Liz:

you. And it's like or there was another it's just a lot of them were challengers once, obviously. Yeah. And it was, like, the tennis racket with the ball in the middle, and, like, their face was painted like the ball. And they're like, what do you mean you're Patrick Zweig's?

Liz:

Like, like, serve.

Claire:

So People are getting creative.

Liz:

I've been really like, every time I see, like, like, bookmark, every every single one of those costumes.

Jack:

Yeah. What are the what are the most fun most fun funnest? I don't know. Is it

Liz:

most funnest? You got it.

Jack:

Columnist at the state news, everybody.

Liz:

Don't hurt yourself. I I can write.

Jack:

I think it I I can write, guys. I think what's really fun, and I think anyone who goes to MSU can sort of relate to this, if you've gone out on Halloween, it's just like walking up and down Grand River, and just like looking at people's costumes, especially if you're like a freshman when you can't really, like, do anything. You know? Yeah. Mhmm.

Jack:

That's what I did last year. You remember, right, after I

Liz:

Yeah. Jack just Fear Into the Nightless. Yeah.

Jack:

We were what? We were watching, like, some movie or something.

Liz:

We started watching the Hype House,

Jack:

show. I'm just gonna go. And then I I I met up with some friends, and we just walked up and down.

Liz:

Literally, he disappeared for, like, a year all, like, all of a sudden, he's like, I'm gonna go, and then left

Jack:

And we had a good time.

Claire:

To go pee and watch.

Liz:

It's a good time. Before too. We

Jack:

had a good time.

Liz:

We we were at, It was a

Jack:

great night. Yeah. Another snooze party?

Liz:

Another snooze party. Yeah. And we watched the Hype House series for a really long time Mhmm.

Jack:

After that.

Liz:

I don't have any other best costumes, but I do have a Halloween costume that I put in my back pocket that I thought of. Yeah. Go ahead. Because, like, I'm do you have do you guys have this thing where, like, you've already bought your costumes and you're like, oh, I should have done this, and then you're like, okay. 2025 Halloween costumes.

Liz:

Yeah.

Claire:

Or, like, Halloween night when I'm people watching, I'm, like, writing down what I'm gonna be. And then the next year comes, and I, like, forget the list. Like, I just looked up the old list I had, and I'm like, I'm not doing any of these.

Liz:

Well, not too I picked I picked one from the list, but the other 2 are not are newer. But I really wanna be, like, Alan Cumming's cabaret, like, character. Oh, yeah. Like, that would be so cool. That would be cool.

Liz:

Guys, no one steal that before next year.

Jack:

Don't steal that.

Claire:

That's fine. Coraline one time. Thank you.

Jack:

I saw a really

Liz:

good one.

Claire:

Couple this year already, but

Jack:

I saw a really good one on, like, Instagram or something. It was Coraline and then the the the kid, the other guy. I forgot his name.

Claire:

Wybie?

Jack:

Yeah. It was it was those 2. And it did but they, like, they looked like a lot like the

Liz:

That's cool.

Jack:

Actual character, which is crazy because it's an animated movie.

Claire:

You know? I just saw Why

Liz:

do you look like this? Exactly. Yeah.

Claire:

A friend of a friend just posted this. Like, her and her boyfriend did. I haven't seen breaking bad, but Jane and Jesse

Liz:

That's okay. That's

Claire:

killed it because they also kind of just, like, looked like them already. They actually killed it. I can't stop thinking about it.

Jack:

We were talking about this last night,

Liz:

and I

Jack:

and Jesse. Kept doing a a Jesse Jesse Pinkman impression.

Liz:

It was really, really Go ahead.

Jack:

I'm not gonna do it here.

Liz:

It includes a curse word. Yeah. Yeah. We'll do it up there.

Jack:

Entire if

Liz:

if you're a

Jack:

fan of the show, you know. But If you

Liz:

know, you know. We were carving pumpkins last night. We were really, really festive. Good. It was really fun.

Claire:

Yeah. Sorry to deter from no.

Liz:

I I don't have any others. Does anyone else have any best?

Jack:

I saw a guy do Napoleon Dynamite, which, you know, is actually kinda like, you know, a lot of people do that, but he could back it up. He did, like, the dance, you know, the Napoleon Dynamite

Liz:

in that

Jack:

one scene. Yeah. Yeah. He did the dance, like, really good. So I I think that was you know, he really got into character with that one.

Liz:

Right.

Claire:

I had a friend freshman year of high school. Do you guys do at your high school? It's, like, the boys dance team, like, my two friends were in charge of coordinating it because they were on student council, and, like, we were all supposed to do our grade. And everyone, like, backed out last minute. Like, the freshman class was like, we're not doing this.

Claire:

And my friend Dylan did it alone, and he did the Napoleon Dynamite dance. And nobody knew what was going on, and the whole the whole school's there. He walks out to the center. All of us are like, we have no idea what he has prepared. And he had the costume on, and the music starts, and he did the whole thing with a straight face.

Claire:

And the uproar was incredible. That's amazing. Still talk about it. Here I am still talking about it. And the next year, I think everyone realized, like, the dance team is cool to do for the pad assembly and all the sophomores.

Claire:

You know, we fun. They got a group together, but

Jack:

Yeah.

Claire:

It was it was amazing.

Jack:

Yeah. That is amazing. I would I would have I would have loved that if I was there.

Liz:

I would have loved a little dance team moment. Yeah. Mhmm.

Claire:

They were funny. They were silly.

Liz:

I was too busy being a nerd in marching band, actually. Oh, okay. Yeah. You were

Jack:

in marching band?

Liz:

Oh, yeah. What did you play? Trombone.

Claire:

Were you in band?

Jack:

I was an orchestra. I was, I I had class.

Liz:

Actually, I was an orchestra.

Jack:

I was an orchestra. I played the violin.

Liz:

In Birmingham. In Birmingham.

Jack:

I am actually from Birmingham. Birmingham, Birmingham, Michigan.

Liz:

No. You're not British. Birmingham. Birmingham. Oh, man.

Liz:

Do you have any more costumes you've loved, Blair?

Claire:

No. But the moment it's Halloween night, I'm gonna be thinking of, like, 80 things I wish I had said when I see people. I'm excited to see what people come up with.

Jack:

Yeah. Me too.

Claire:

I feel like

Liz:

It's like the best people watching.

Claire:

It's just it doesn't to me, like, overrated, underrated, doesn't matter what it is as long as it's, like, well executed. Oh, this is just one I was talking to Eva about earlier. This is not really a well executed costume, and it takes no effort, and you can just tell it's so last minute, but it catches me off guard. I'm, like, a little ashamed. It catches me off guard every year, and I laugh every time I see it.

Claire:

It's when a guy just puts on a white coat and dresses up as a gynecologist, and it shouldn't make me laugh, and it does.

Jack:

That's crazy.

Liz:

That's insane. Why does it make you laugh?

Claire:

I don't know. Like, I see it, and I'm like, this is so stupid, and then I start laughing.

Liz:

But it's not a I I'm so have

Claire:

it so easy. I know, and it's not a good costume. It's a it's a weird costume.

Liz:

Bad and weird costume. Horrible.

Claire:

But it caught me off guard at Rick's of all places.

Liz:

Of course. Of course.

Claire:

Of course. Not in my right eye. Rick's.

Liz:

I was at Rick's, and

Claire:

I turned, and the lights are strobing, and I'm like, why is this person next to me dressed up as a gynecologist? I've got out of here.

Liz:

Have a white, like, lab coat, you should just be like doctor Doofensh first.

Claire:

I actually, like And if you don't laugh, you'll cry. It was either I burst into your ass to him or I was like, how

Jack:

What about it, like, made it a gynecologist and not just, like, a regular doctor?

Claire:

Just like this

Liz:

is so Kim Singh? No. Just Did

Jack:

he say it, like, on his jacket?

Claire:

Just like a little, like, tag.

Liz:

I was I was about to say, like It totally took 3

Claire:

minutes to put the line together. Gonna say what

Liz:

I was gonna say. Okay.

Claire:

I probably shouldn't have said that.

Jack:

One of my friends last year was Okay.

Liz:

Sorry. That

Claire:

was super bizarre that I shared that.

Liz:

Go ahead, Jack. I don't mean it. No. I mean, I don't I actually think it's really super bizarre. Say your I never laughed.

Liz:

I was

Jack:

just gonna say one of my friends last year was a a a douchebag.

Liz:

Nice.

Jack:

He just put on a he put on a hat that said that. He wore a

Liz:

So the belt is a hat then?

Jack:

No. No. No. A a white white beater and then, like, I think, like, a Hawaiian shirt over it, and then he had, like, black basketball shorts. And it was one of those things where it totally took him, like, 3 minutes to put together.

Jack:

You know?

Liz:

But then you look at it,

Jack:

and you're like, why? Is hilarious. He showed up, and I was cracking up because that's, like, hilarious. You know?

Liz:

It was

Jack:

crackin' up. Nailed it.

Liz:

He's cracking up. Well, everyone, This guy's cracking up. One other thing that I wanna say Oh, please. About maybe not costumes, but just Halloween in general Yeah. Was because I was thinking about it last night while we were listening to the Halloween party playlist

Jack:

Yep.

Liz:

Was about, like, what makes a Halloween song? And I just wanna get your thoughts. This is such a stupid thing. But I was like, I I'm also trying to make a playlist for this news party, so just please know that whatever you say will be used in Okay.

Claire:

So that's consideration. Gonna take that a different way. Like, when I think of a Halloween song, I think of, like, that spooky scary skeleton song where it's like it just sounds like something is, like, doing this motion over and over again. But for a party, I don't expect to walk into the party and it just be like, this is Halloween. Like, that

Liz:

type of stuff. That's the thing.

Claire:

I don't expect that.

Liz:

I like that. It's like how department store do you make it? You know what I'm saying? Because, like, you you specifically have, like, Halloween songs, like, Calling All the Monsters by Triana and McClain. Best song ever.

Claire:

On the playlist.

Liz:

Oh, I will. Right now. And, like, the monster mash. But, like, there's also just, like, creepy songs that are, like, like, Bloody Mary by Lady Gaga and, like, cannibal by Kesha, like, kind of things. Like, you're right.

Liz:

Your own question. Like, are, like, are those Halloween songs?

Jack:

They can be.

Liz:

Oh, I

Claire:

believe you.

Jack:

If you play them

Liz:

in the

Claire:

Just the way

Liz:

you said it? Play them on Halloween.

Jack:

No. Yeah. Exactly. Like, if if I'm if I'm listening to that in the car in the middle of summer driving home from work, then it's not a Halloween song. But if you're playing it at a Halloween party, then

Claire:

Anything goes. Yeah. True. I think also anything goes because people are dressed up as, like, celebrities. People are dressed up maybe even as singers.

Claire:

So you could play any song you want, and you could you could make an argument for any song

Liz:

on a Halloween dressing up as a singer.

Claire:

So don't feel nervous about your playlist. I'm excited.

Jack:

Now with that being said, I I I do I do love it when I walk into, like, a college party, and there's, like it just sounds like a spirit Halloween. You

Liz:

know? That is really funny. That's what

Claire:

you guys should try to do at

Liz:

your house.

Jack:

Like, the monster mash the monster mash isn't played at least, like, 4 times.

Liz:

4 times.

Jack:

Then, like

Liz:

That's a lot of time. A lot. Well, I

Jack:

mean, you spread it out throughout the night. You don't have

Liz:

to play them all consecutively. In a row. And, you

Jack:

know, I have this playlist you were playing last night pulled up on my laptop right

Liz:

now. Halloween party?

Jack:

Yeah. And, you know, you have stuff like toxic by Britney Spears, which, like, I I listen to. But, you know, I think that kinda works.

Claire:

Yeah. Yeah. Once again, you could make any argument. Exactly.

Liz:

As long

Claire:

as it's not like a Christmas song, I'd be like, yeah. Put on the playlist.

Liz:

Oh, I

Jack:

mean, you could Yeah. I don't think you could make an argument for any song. Well, yes.

Liz:

Not the Diet Pepsi by Addison Wright. Guys. Guys, I think that that's

Claire:

What's happening?

Liz:

Because I said I wanted to be at the party. This entire place I mean, this entire, like, podcast has just been us being, like, getting ready for

Claire:

Yeah. We're just preparing for the studio's party. But any closing thoughts on Halloween?

Liz:

One thing about the songs. Unholy we were talking about the song Unholy by Sam Smith. Good night, everyone. Like, the only it's only Halloween because Sam Smith is scary. Fair.

Liz:

I have one more other point that I had to make really quick. No, please. Is, I recently watched crow versus monster again, the Disney Channel original movie Yeah. And it doesn't hold up. So take with that way you will.

Claire:

Maybe because we were, like, 9.

Liz:

That's what I'm saying.

Claire:

Sorry. No. But, like, I thought that

Liz:

I thought that it would. Yeah.

Claire:

I'm sorry that that nostalgia Because I really

Liz:

loved that as a kid. Nostalgia's a liar.

Jack:

You know what? Still holds up?

Liz:

Say that. That was really

Claire:

that's insane. Because it's true. Happy Halloween.

Jack:

Y'all ever seen paranormal?

Liz:

Yes.

Jack:

That movie holds up.

Liz:

That movie does hold up. You're so right. Yeah. Any closing thoughts on Halloween? You guys been trying to do this for the last, like, 5 minutes.

Liz:

Think so. Any closing thoughts on Halloween, guys? Excited.

Claire:

If you dress up as a table, contact the state news and let us know.

Liz:

We'll get to our surprise there. Clare's. Yeah.

Jack:

Why'd you

Liz:

say We'll be posting Clare's old costumes on the Snooze Snapchat story.

Claire:

Yeah. And happy Halloween. Nobody dressed up as an animal or Liz is gonna be mad.

Liz:

Oh, they're sure.

Jack:

Too. I think we'll

Liz:

all be mad. We'll all be mad.

Jack:

Be mad at yourself.

Claire:

I won't be.

Liz:

K. Bye. Bye, guys.