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Tyson Popplestone is a Comedian from Melbourne Australia. Join him for a brand new interview each week.
billy stiles (00:00.078)
nostalgia. Yeah, I'm nostalgic. I think I'm the most nostalgic person. I still remember, I remember petrol pump numbers by footy players from the 80s. Like I put petrol in and they go what number and I'll be like Tony Modra, number six. That's right. Or Wayne Johnston, number seven. Robert Flour, number two. That's how I remember
billy stiles (00:30.066)
Yeah, mate, the best memories come from that. I get the biggest buzz when I put a footy song on from the 90s, you know, like that's how I feel when that because they say when you try and maintain a good feeling and that's always for me, it's always like you know, to get yourself in flow state for things and I do it for comedy a bit. The main one of the moments I think about to get myself in a good feeling is when
when Grimshaw Primary School beat Norris Bank by five points, I kicked the seal up. And we were just bus ride home back to our school. Best day of my life, mate. Like, cause we weren't expected to beat them. And so I go back to not the eighties just for a good feeling.
You know what I mean? Like, isn't that mental? Like where do you, where would you, if you had to find a good feeling, right? So I know you got married, had kids. They're great. Apart from that, if you, if someone said, if you went to a psychologist and they said, find a good feeling, where are you going?
tyson (01:19.841)
That's it.
Good? Yeah.
tyson (01:36.597)
That's a very good question. I reckon honestly, I go back to like, remember how fun Christmas is when you're a kid?
billy stiles (01:43.414)
Oh, the old summer. You're up all night.
tyson (01:46.213)
It's a, dude, I remember living in Perth, right? And I would have been eight or nine. Yeah, you're up all night. And I remember, I can't remember exactly how many days before it was, but say it was, it might've even been the day before, but I remember going to my mate's house, his name's Shuey, and we were both like, oh, this day is taking forever. Like tomorrow's Christmas, like what are we gonna do? And I remember going to his house and just watching Face Off, and we watched like five different movies just to try and make the day go fast. And then,
billy stiles (02:06.096)
Ah. Yeah.
tyson (02:15.509)
Dude, I've got like photos, I've got a little photo album over here, but I've got photos of myself, even when I'm too old. I reckon I was like 12, like the excitement of Christmas should have worn off a little bit by then maybe. And I'm sitting on my new Haro bike, my BMX bike, which I knew I was getting, like I knew mumbled. I didn't even believe in Santa at this stage, but still I woke up and I was like, I can't believe it. And then it's weird as you get older as well, cause like gradually each Christmas after you turn 12, you gradually are...
billy stiles (02:20.39)
Thank you.
billy stiles (02:25.562)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm. Yeah.
tyson (02:44.409)
Oh, it's not as good as last year. And now I'm 36 and when you get up for Christmas morning, it's just another day really, like it's good to see everyone but chances are I'm just gonna get in an argument with my auntie about COVID and that's gonna be the highlight of the day. Whereas when you're a kid, it was just about Lollies, BMX bikes and showing your mates what you got.
billy stiles (02:46.856)
Yeah
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billy stiles (03:04.27)
I'm a yeah, Christmas. I was trying to believe in Santa ages after I knew he was fake. I was like, nah, I was denying it. I'm like, he's real, mate. It was like wrestling. Um, but I remember one year, Mrs. The missus to bought me a present. It was under the tree. I'm like, what is it? Like, how just tell me? And it was just, it was a big massive box. And I was excited. I was like, what is she got me? She hasn't got that much money, surely. And then.
On the day it was just a cricket ball, but I was wrapped with that. Like, uh, it was just a cricket ball. Like not even a proper one. Like I think one of those cricket ball, I don't know if this school got them, but yeah, Christmas man, the best ever. Uh, yeah. Great time. Cause that, there's no real, I, we had a good time growing up. You're a bit younger than me, but everyone's on computer games 24 seven now, whereas we weren't allowed to like where to do other stuff.
tyson (03:35.073)
Hehehehehehe
billy stiles (04:00.907)
It was better.
tyson (04:02.185)
Dude, I took my TV out of my lounge room the other day just because it was doing my head in how much TV my little boys were watching. But it's not their fault. I mean, it was mainly me. Because my older boy is a legend. Love him, but he's so full on. Like he's kind of like me. He's a perfect combination of me and my wife, which sort of makes sense, but he's so intense. He's three, just turned three. And he's like the.
billy stiles (04:06.336)
Oh.
billy stiles (04:20.159)
Hell, what is this?
tyson (04:25.497)
unbelievable amount of energy. It's just, it's mind blowing. And every now and he's kind of needy too. So every now and then I'm like, I just want time to myself. I don't want to hang out with you. I'll just put a kid show on. And then, dude, I was putting so many kids shows and I was realizing like, holy crap, this is, it's the, cause it's the best babysitter. I get, I get why parents do it. Even though I used to judge them so hard when I used to see it before I had kids, I was like, oh man, it's so bad how much scream time you give your kid. And then I had a kid, I'm like, I'm so, like I totally get it. And so I put that on.
billy stiles (04:35.862)
Yeah.
billy stiles (04:50.104)
Yeah.
You need it.
tyson (04:54.373)
Anyway, Jesse read some Instagram posts the other day about some chick who threw out her TV and she was like, it was actually a way easier transition than what I thought. And so we've been telling him that our TV has gone to the doctor's to get, to get fixed or whatever, it's just under a sheet in our garage. And I'm kind of enjoying it for the reasons you just said. It's like, I don't, I just watch it sometimes cause it's there. It's like, I got my phone next to me and sometimes while I was waiting for you, I just looked at Instagram and I didn't even, I didn't even want to see anything. I was just, I was just going to see if anything was going on. And it really is.
billy stiles (05:22.714)
Yeah. Oh yeah. I've, um, I don't turn, I've never turned the TV on for years. I don't watch it at all, but I do. I was scrolling a lot, but I've, I've ever been given up scrolling. Now. I don't want to know. There's too much in my head, especially what we went through the last few years. I'm like, I don't even want to know. Whatever ignorance is bliss. You know what I mean? I'm ignorant. Sorry guys. I don't know. There's a wall somewhere in the world. It's probably been going on.
50 years anyway, like I don't want to know. I don't have to know. There's nothing I can do about it. So I watch if there's a sporting event, I need to watch a watch, but I can't help world problems. The news depresses the shit out of me. Like put something good on it. Is the world all just sad? You know, I'm pretty sure it's not, but that's what we're copping on that box, aren't we?
tyson (06:14.653)
Yeah, I listened to this podcast ages ago with Rich Roll and he was talking to, I think he was talking to Andrew Huberman and Andrew Huberman was like, hey, guess what emotion people like to feel the most? And Rich Roll was like, happiness? And I was like, that's a good guess. Like that's probably what I'm pursuing. That's what I feel like I'm after. And he's like, yeah, but if a person's got the opportunity to go towards happiness or mild irritation, they tend towards mild irritation every time. I'm like, oh, that makes sense then that like,
billy stiles (06:40.942)
Mm.
tyson (06:44.537)
and news show is to sell advertising, which I guess it is, then like the best state to keep people hanging around is just put them in mild irritation. And like the best way to do that is like, hey, he's Israel, Palestine. I'm still trying to figure out, I've been thinking about this lately. Like I can't keep up with the news as it is. Like I'm just starting to get my head around who I'm going for in the Russia versus Ukraine war. And now they're telling me I've got to pick sides on another one. Like, dude, and you're right. Like what am I gonna do? Even if I could tell you all about Israel and Palestine.
billy stiles (06:48.226)
Hmm.
billy stiles (07:04.811)
Yeah.
tyson (07:13.513)
Who cares, apart from me just being able to look good to you and hold a conversation, and it's like a good dinner party trick, I'm not doing anything to help it.
billy stiles (07:22.862)
Now, and then, and I'm not getting all the information. I don't know all the information. I can't get all the information. Doesn't matter if I have all the information. It doesn't matter who I want to win the war. There shouldn't be a fucking war for one. If that's the only way we can deal with shit still, humans are disgusting. Like they haven't come very far that they, humans are still killing each other, but I'm not allowed to say certain words on stage.
tyson (07:43.348)
Yeah.
billy stiles (07:51.822)
because it offends people. Sorry, yeah. Work it out. Like, and these, hey, these people that do the stuff, they went to fucking uni. I didn't. And I still know that killing people is wrong. Like, it's, humans mate, the only animal that doesn't know how to exist. You know? Isn't that crazy?
tyson (07:54.377)
That's so true.
tyson (08:13.441)
Yeah, my dad used to always say to me he used to always go He goes old no matter what you did I would never ever go to war and if everyone thought like me there would never be a war and I'm like It sounds so basic, but it's so true but then but then yeah, but then I'm also like alright, but The only the only challenge I have to that argument is if like the Japanese start flying over Melbourne and start trying to drop bombs on us
billy stiles (08:27.403)
If you say not.
tyson (08:40.485)
and start hurting my kids, then I go, well, maybe I would because that would fire me up.
billy stiles (08:43.982)
Hmm. But you're not going to want you'd fight then, but you're not going on official one where it's like an organized war. Like it should, if it's, if it's, if it's just about who's the strongest, let's do it in the ring then let's do it in like put the two, get your toughest man from each country and let them fight. Then give them, cause no one, no one ever hands it over anyway, whatever they wanted. I don't understand it. I never will probably. Um.
tyson (09:08.385)
Bro that's your David and Goliath story, bring that back. Pick your biggest soldier, or your most equipped shoulder and let him fight it out, I like it.
billy stiles (09:12.823)
Yeah.
billy stiles (09:16.138)
I don't get how like the leaders of these countries, what happens when they go in for their wife at the end of the day? Like, yeah, how was work? You know, like tough day. Like how do they sleep? What's going on with them? Like it's mental.
tyson (09:31.509)
Yeah, drinking this comforting numbers. It's one of those things. It's like I Always get this feeling that if you're surrounded by enough people who either justify a certain thing or getting enough of a payout to be Able to find justification for it gets way easier To justify it like yeah
billy stiles (09:48.734)
Yep. We've seen it. Like your old man said, he wouldn't go to war, but you know what happens if you don't go to war when you get conscripted? You get caught a coward by everyone. Like my uncle didn't go to war. He had to go to jail. He got his birthday got caught out to Vietnam. He didn't go, but you copped a bit of slack for it. You know what I mean? Like you're a coward, not fighting for your country. But he's the same. He's like, why should I go to war?
tyson (10:02.151)
Yeah.
tyson (10:12.106)
Yeah.
tyson (10:18.549)
Don't you reckon it's weird? Like you're a coward for an hour. Muhammad Ali didn't go to the Vietnam war for the same reason. He wasn't allowed to box. And then now we look back at him as not only the greatest boxer of all time, but someone who stood for things so much greater. It's weird how like in a particular era, like during the time, maybe use the COVID example, like it's not, I mean, the idea of being called a coward doesn't really bother me anymore. But like...
billy stiles (10:18.754)
with the war.
billy stiles (10:25.027)
Mm.
billy stiles (10:37.602)
Hmm.
billy stiles (10:43.127)
Mm.
tyson (10:43.805)
But who knows in 50 years, already people start to look back at that and they're like, oh no, now I feel like I can see where you're coming from with the vaccine. But way beyond that, like going to a war, I feel like no one looks at Muhammad Ali now and be like, oh yeah, he should have gone really. Like it was for a good cause. Now we look back.
billy stiles (11:00.635)
Yeah, it's here. It's a time sort of there. It's like any argument, sometimes you have an argument with someone and you walk away and go, oh, that was a bit harsh.
tyson (11:11.81)
Yeah, every argument for me.
billy stiles (11:11.914)
I went a bit hard on that person. And I can't, you know what they reckon about arguments? They reckon when you have an argument with somebody, you're actually arguing to convince yourself that you're right. How's that?
tyson (11:23.209)
That's probably true.
billy stiles (11:24.842)
Cause people that know they're right, don't talk. They're like, okay, idiot, I'm not talking. This argument's over. Like, but if you're actually going hard at it and you're going, you're trying to convince them to agree with you and you too. So then convince yourself that you were actually right, but you don't even know. So next time someone's arguing with you, you don't even know. Yeah.
tyson (11:40.841)
That's so good, eh?
tyson (11:46.205)
Or you just sit there quiet and then send them a text message about what you just said and they're like Oh, he was so quiet. He must know he's right. I'm gonna change my opinion
billy stiles (11:50.734)
Hmm.
billy stiles (11:54.742)
Well that's right, well wouldn't you have an alien with your girlfriend or your wife or whatever and she just stops talking. You go away and go Man she got me again
tyson (12:08.502)
It's so true. And that's like her tactic, the silent treatment. It just, it makes you say more dumb stuff, doesn't it? Like if I start getting silent treatment, it just, nothing makes me more angry.
billy stiles (12:13.098)
Yeah. No, they've got you on the ropes and you start spitting stuff out. It's like when they're coming at you hard, you've got to do the same. You've got to go quiet and just take the punches. And then, but if you, sometimes they just keep punching for so long that you say something you don't even mean that. And then you're in trouble. Cause they're like, oh, got you now. You just said the wrong thing.
tyson (12:38.466)
My mate works for ANZ Bank. I don't know if I've told you about him before, Joe Ash. And he was telling me, he just got made redundant a few weeks ago. He's been with him for like 15 years. And he's a smart guy. And he was saying in the interview, cause they were still doing it like this. They were still doing it behind a computer. And he said that he read recently that one of the best ways to get people to overshare or to share more information than they should is to...
billy stiles (12:47.051)
Hmm.
billy stiles (12:55.447)
Yeah.
billy stiles (13:02.251)
Yeah.
tyson (13:05.713)
sit back and just be quiet. And so he had a half an hour meeting scheduled with this guy and the guy goes, oh, how are you Joe-ish? And he goes, good. And he's a fairly personable guy, so we'll start talking. And so he reckons as soon as he said good, he saw his boss's eyes be like, oh. So, and then the guy just started rambling and he's like, oh, I got a front row seat at.
billy stiles (13:09.268)
you.
billy stiles (13:14.785)
Yeah.
billy stiles (13:19.173)
Yeah.
tyson (13:33.553)
at what that's like. I'll be like that. Like if you went quiet on me right now, mate, I'll fill the next 10 minutes up with all my issues and bullshit. You would never wanna talk to me again because I would have overshared accidentally.
billy stiles (13:35.894)
Yeah.
billy stiles (13:45.01)
Yeah. No, like it's interesting how you can prompt the person to talk. Yeah. I don't know. You just, that's what you do in counseling. I did a counseling course once and I'm, um, I didn't finish it. Like every other course I've started, but one of the things you don't like, I have to think counselors must give you answers, but they actually don't. They make you find them. So they just go, Oh, yeah. Tell me more. And then they just sit there. You're like, okay, come on some more stuff.
So when I was 18, this happened and you're like, why am I even telling her this? And she's like, Oh yeah, what else? What else happened? How could you have handled that different? But yeah, and it's all your answer. The answer is you actually don't need counseling because the answers are in you already. That's everyone has counseling. They don't know. They're like, you don't need it. You actually got, you've got the answers. He, you know, you have to, but you just need.
tyson (14:15.425)
Hey.
tyson (14:36.437)
So funny.
billy stiles (14:42.494)
We're trying to think we need someone else to help us, I guess. I mean, you do help, obviously, but I think the answer is all at the end of the day, the answer is all in you. Okay.
tyson (14:55.613)
Yeah, I reckon the best thing I ever got out of God, I went to a counselor years ago and yeah, you're right. I had the answers in me, but it was just like the tools that he gave me. Have you heard of CBT? It was like, I was just getting stuck on like a negative loop in my head of just unhelpful thoughts. And I guess it doesn't, I mean, it just adds to your point because he's like, no, but just because you're going around and around with that doesn't make that thought real. And I was like, oh yeah. He's like, why don't you try this thought? And I was like, well, that feels way better.
billy stiles (15:04.706)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
billy stiles (15:09.746)
Yeah.
billy stiles (15:19.074)
Hmm
billy stiles (15:23.022)
Mmm.
tyson (15:23.293)
Yeah, you're right, but he just had to point his finger to it and go, oh, there it is, or which is better than just going, oh, okay, so you just need a, I don't know, because I feel like there's a lot of people now who go, oh, I'm stuck on a bad thought, and they're like, oh, you should take this antidepressant. It's like, okay, well, that's, I mean, maybe, but maybe you should do what Billy Stiles is saying, just have a look at.
billy stiles (15:38.541)
Mm-hmm.
billy stiles (15:42.378)
Maybe just stop thinking, you know the bad thought, just stop thinking it.
tyson (15:47.913)
It's so like, so helpful.
billy stiles (15:49.818)
You know, because you know, essentially we're nothing. So every thought you have is a made up construct. Like, oh, I'm not achieving enough in my life. Made up. I'm achieving everything I've ever needed to achieve right now. It's all made up. Comedy's made up. Being a lawyer is made up. They're all made up. So if you're depressed about that you didn't fail uni, don't worry about it. It's made up.
tyson (16:17.644)
I heard Tucker Carlson on Theodore von the other day. Yeah, Tucker Carlson on Theodore von the other day.
billy stiles (16:19.192)
Everything's made up. Just don't feel bad about yourself, don't feel good about yourself. I mean, you need stimulation, but you don't. It's kind of, keep it simple. Anyway, sorry, go on.
tyson (16:32.957)
Nah, it's so true. Tucker Carlson said something similar on Theo Von the other day. He's like, yeah, when you're an adult, you start making up this idea that you've got things together. He's like, people see you in your suit at your fancy job in your nice car, and they're like, oh, he's got it together. And you go to them, yeah, I do have it together. He's like, no, you don't. He's like, we're all just flying along by the seat of our pants, doing whatever we can to try and survive. And you've got absolutely no idea and very little control of what's going on. And when you, it was, I can't remember whether he said this or whether it's just the conclusion I got to, but it's like,
billy stiles (16:53.164)
Mmm.
tyson (17:02.045)
Yeah, when you get to that point, you're like, oh, that feels like there's a massive weight off my back now.
billy stiles (17:06.692)
Yeah, you, I think we almost get addicted to being disappointed or you get something in, if they say zero to seven, so where your kids are at now is the most important time for them, how they're going to feel in years to come about themselves. So yeah, you just, you've got bad programs running. So there, that's all you've got to break from when you're young. And I've gone back.
And I've gone back and done hypnosis is where I talk to myself as a, as a kid. And you sit next to yourself and you say, what do you need? How do you, and this is all to help me. You go, what do you go to that kid? What do you need, mate? What is it? What's bothering you? How do you need to be treated to be okay? And then the kid will say, whatever, like whatever you come up with, what you need at the time, and then.
and the hypnosis meditation, they say, now that's what you got to give yourself right now as an adult. And then all your childhood trauma is gone.
You know, and it worked. All this crap that I've carried in, I don't have it anymore. It was made up. I made up that, you know, for instance, someone didn't like you, they didn't love you, I would have made up. You made it up and you ran with it and made it worse. Whereas you could have just said to yourself, what, oh, you know, that you're loved. That's it, end of story.
tyson (18:43.193)
Last time I caught up with you were outside the Bergy, and you were telling me that you had some back pain, and then you just reframed the way you saw it. So you sound like you're going down this rabbit hole a little bit of just the power of your mind to influence certain situations. And you're like, it is funny, man. My mom, the other day, she had to go and have a, I can't remember the name of the procedure, but essentially it had to look at the health of her veins. They thought she might've had a mild heart attack. But...
billy stiles (18:52.418)
Yeah.
billy stiles (19:11.978)
Yeah.
tyson (19:12.517)
And as a result, she had, sorry, in the lead up to that, she'd had this dull pain in her arm, like, and kind of like an ache. And she'd been reading about that, like a common after effect of a mild heart attack or a stroke is like a little bit of a dull ache in your left arm. And just, my mom was like, oh crap, I think it is this. And this is all evidence. Anyway, she went in, got this procedure done. The guy's like, no, your heart, your veins, everything is as good as new. You look great, you're fine. And she reckons almost immediately that arm pain just, she's like, oh.
billy stiles (19:19.387)
Yeah.
billy stiles (19:41.478)
100 percent.
tyson (19:42.341)
I hadn't thought about it anymore. So there's definitely some kind of crazy impact that it has on like your physical health as well.
billy stiles (19:49.682)
Yeah. All right. Well, I had firsthand experience of what your mom went through about 10, maybe a bit more than 10 years ago. So I had a traumatic event happen to me at Epping Plaza where a guy chased me with an axe through the car park. And yeah, so a guy cut me off in my work van and I'm like, what's going on? I was at the lights, what's he doing? And he reached into the back
tyson (20:04.831)
What?
billy stiles (20:19.65)
So he gets out of the car, I'm like, I didn't know it was an ax until he got out of the car and started walking at me like it was some kind of horror movie. And I'm like, this dude's walking with a carrying an ax across his body like that. And I'm like, I gotta get out of here. This guy has an ax.
And I thought, so I took off man on the wrong side of the road, spinning the wheels. The dude jumps back in his car, starts chasing me. And, but I can't go anywhere cause traffic's filled up. So I just went across the medium strip in the middle. Man, the car was on two wheels, my van and my work van. And I smashed through trees to get back into the Eton Plaza car park. I had nowhere else to go. And the dude does exactly what I did. And I'm like, Oh, this is a full on car chase now.
And there's a guy with an axe chasing me and I don't even know, I'm like, who is this? Like, what is this? And I'm just in total survival mode and he comes, we're in Epping car park, like a big shopping center car park. He speeds past me, cuts me off again and gets out again with the axe. I'm in Epping Plaza and I'm like, shit, this is full on. But I'm remarkably calm, because I'm seeing this, I've never seen this before.
My brain doesn't know what to do. My brain's like, what do you do when an axeman's coming at you? I've never had this. I haven't practiced this.
tyson (21:44.993)
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
billy stiles (21:50.434)
So I spin the wheel backwards this time into reverse. And I think I hit like a trolley or something. I'm like, that wasn't a person. And then, and I, and I went back the way I came in, jumped back over, like over. I'm driving over like things that were way too high. And then you do what you do to survive. But then I got out to a paddock at it, past there being out, and then things like the end of the suburbs. I mean, they're building after that now, but back then there was paddocks.
tyson (21:53.729)
Thanks for watching!
billy stiles (22:20.914)
And I got into this panic and just ducked down like I was in a movie. And, um, I rang my boss and I'm like, I don't even know if he believed me. I said, mate, I've just been checked for crazy acts, man, editing clubs, I can't, I can't finish the day's work. I'm going home. And he goes, but you've still got stuff in the van. I go, I don't care, man. I was going to chase like what I do with an act. And, um, anyway.
tyson (22:32.469)
Yeah.
billy stiles (22:49.634)
I was like, and then I got home and I was just laughing about it. I remember putting the status up like, how was your day going? Anyone else get chased by a wild Axeman in the shopping center? And I was so, so I thought it was pretty funny, but then six months later, I'm driving a warnable to see the girl I was seeing at the time. And I just see headlights in my, in my mirror and I'm like, oh, it's the guy. Like I haven't thought about for six months and it just hits me.
Oh, that guy's coming to murder me. So my brain had my brain had time to, it didn't go away. It's stuck in me. Your subconscious didn't know what to do with it at the time. And then six months later, it spattered out when I was growing and warning them and I thought everyone was trying to kill me from that day. I just thought everyone was that guy. So I'd be in a shop and I'd be like looking over my shoulder. So I had post-traumatic stress and then.
I didn't even put it together that it was from that kind of thing. I was just scared of life. And then, then I started developing health anxiety where every ache, every pain was bad trauma was like, uh, what's the word, uh, when it's fatal. So I started thinking every condition I was going to the dentist with like jaw pain and I'd say, look, mate, I've definitely got like an abscess or something in this jaw. Um, can you check it out? I can't eat.
can't chew on that side. And then they'd X-ray me and he'd go, there's nothing there. And I'd walk out with no pain. And then other stuff would have I'd have symptoms that weren't real. And he told me to stop Googling the guy, the doctor, and I did. But I had to get treatment. Yeah, for that. And that but yeah, your brain, my brain was making up symptoms, you can make pain happen in your body. And that only I'm back to that back thing with
The back pain. So I was watching that SAS. Did I tell you that part of it? That, so there's that show SAS where the special operations, they train them and they put celebrities on it and train them in that course and, um, Sabrina Frederick Chou of the footballer, the AFLW full oil was on it. And she goes, I can't just carry like a backpack with like 20 kilos or something up to this hill. And she goes to the instructor, the SAS do like special operations.
tyson (24:54.101)
I don't think so.
billy stiles (25:19.01)
guy army guy I can't go anymore my back is killing and he goes he's screaming there he goes it's all in your fucking head and she just kept going and I'm like what she couldn't even move and then she's running up the hill again and I went what if my back pain is all in my head too because I had back pain every day and I started telling myself
that I had the strongest back in the world. And I've never had an injury since. Right. And I, and ironically, you know, you manifest things into your life. Sometimes you think that just happened. Why'd that just, you know, I'm running one day in Heidelberg in the park lands out in the back, just on one of those dirt tracks where no one ever is and Sabrina Frederick Trought runs past me, that girl I'm like, what the fuck? Like.
I was going to say, she must've been training for pre-season or whatever. I felt like saying like, you, um, that, that thing changed my life. Just that little incident. You know what I mean? Just seeing her on that show. I wanted to say thanks for that. Cause like, even though she didn't like that guy made her run, but like she made me run. You know what I mean? And I wouldn't have been running if it wasn't for watching that show and finding out that, and my back.
I mean, I've had moments where it's a bit stiff, but then I'm like, no, it's not. And it goes away. Most. I know you can get structural injuries, but maybe if you think differently, your body can fix itself or, or not even, or it's just the receptivity you've got firing off because you hear everyone. All you hear in life is everyone's got a bad back. Everyone's got a bad. What if that's just being created by you?
tyson (27:13.365)
Yeah, dude, it's such an interesting conversation as well, because there's definitely a massive relationship between your physical health and your mental health. But then there's definitely a limit between imagining something and actually being able to manifest it. Like there's some line somewhere where it gets real weird. Do you know what I mean? Like you speak to the average person and they go, okay, so mental strength is important and you can create better health with your mind, for sure. And then someone's like, well, I've imagined
billy stiles (27:32.33)
Yeah.
billy stiles (27:39.436)
Yeah, yeah.
tyson (27:42.193)
I'm a millionaire in Vanuatu by the time I'm 26, but I'm 31 now, I still live in my car. So you're like, all right, what's happened there? Why is, like, I can't remember who I heard. Yeah, I think Ricky Gervais has a joke about it. Whereas like, yeah, that's why, that's why there's so many poor Africans, because they haven't heard about the power of manifesting. They're just sitting there going, oh, I wish I had some, I wish I had some better food. He's like, oh, not with that attitude, you're gonna get absolutely fucked all. But yeah, it is, dude. Like, I'm.
billy stiles (27:51.882)
Yeah, go ahead.
billy stiles (28:02.839)
Yeah.
tyson (28:11.453)
I definitely don't want to.
billy stiles (28:11.842)
No, yeah. Yeah. I don't know about manifesting everything like that, but another one, I don't know. Just strange things happen in life that you think. It's so odd. Like the other day I was on a, I was on a podcast with, um, Ron Lewis and Brett Blake, and I said to them, it was about getting sacked from jobs and that. And I said, I got sacked from being a ball boy at Cuyong. I left the scoreboard on the same score for about five minutes or whatever. And it was Wally Masur.
And it was Wally Masur versus Boris Becker. Anyway, yeah, as a kid and I got, they shouldn't have given me that job because I started chatting to some kids in front of me and got distracted. But that's what you get when you pay someone $6 a day, isn't it? And they've got ADHD, but whatever. Anyway.
tyson (28:47.673)
It was your job to change the score.
tyson (28:53.973)
You
tyson (29:03.937)
the
billy stiles (29:07.49)
So I say, yeah, so they're like, it was playing. I'm like, it was Wally Masua, Boris Becker. And that night I'm doing a gig in Collins Street and guess who's in there? Wally Masua. I'm like, come on, life, what are you, this is not real. Why is Wally Masua in my, you know what I mean? Like I talked to him today and he's here now. I've never seen Wally Masua in my life apart from that day.
in 1987. And now, because I've mentioned his name and he's popped up, like, when's a coincidence a bit soo freaky, you know what I mean?
tyson (29:37.985)
Ha ha ha!
tyson (29:46.365)
That's why, yeah, it is weird. It's very weird. I've had a few moments like that.
billy stiles (29:48.99)
Yeah, you know, you got a freaking coincidence stories like, and the other day I met the Southern sun's lead singer and I just put his song in my Spotify list and he was at my gig in this country town population, a hundred. And I'm like, dude, I go, dude, what are you doing here? Like he goes, yeah, I bought the church down the road. I'm like, I just put your song in my Spotify the other day.
tyson (30:04.726)
Thanks for watching!
billy stiles (30:17.993)
Bye.
tyson (30:18.322)
I'm trying to think of a good one that I've had. I don't know, I wasn't thinking about this. Nah, I don't, not that direct, not that direct. I've met some cool people that I've just been shocked to say, to say I got off the flight from Perth the other day and who was Michael Gardner? Do you remember him? The big rockman?
billy stiles (30:35.938)
Hmm. Yeah, they've been rocking some purse here. They haven't been in covers, mate.
tyson (30:40.257)
Dude, did he? Yeah, I thought he was. I thought he had a bit of a wild, a wild repute. Yeah, dude. But, I mean, this has got.
billy stiles (30:44.902)
Yeah, the Wilds through. He got ambushed by, he got ambushed by the Western Bulldogs as an 18 year old at the Western over one day, this footage of it, like Libra Torre and that gang duff on him and yet like it was full on and he was scared, like he looked visibly shaken. They got him, they like, we're going to get this 18 year old kid on his first game. Libra, Paul Dimmatina and I think Steve Crady, yeah, remember those?
You remember those times where Libo became like a tagger in 97 and that?
tyson (31:19.589)
Yeah, I've got vague memories of it. I don't remember the app. I remember Libba just being a bloke that I was terrified of. I would see him run around and I would be like, even though he's so little, he's just one of those little bulldogs that you just know, you just know that you're not getting away with anything. And that was weird as well. Like even in 97, it had probably cleaned up a little bit, but it was still a wild game in comparison to what it is now. So you could get away with so much. So he's the kind of bloke that you go up for a mark and you can be, you can be.
15 seconds late and still cop it in the back and barely give away a free kick. But they really made you work for it back then. That's why I love looking at the old highlights of people like Liberatore and even BT. Like BT is so funny back in the day, just lining up at full forward, celebrating goals before he'd even kicked him. Like there was something, yeah, there's something to appeal. That's like the part of footy that international people really seem to connect with. It's a bummer where we sort of ironing it out so much.
billy stiles (31:56.917)
Yeah.
billy stiles (32:04.843)
Yeah.
billy stiles (32:14.77)
Isn't that characters now it's all athletes and, um, uh, like where's it, Alan, yeah, like the full forwards in the early nineties and eighties, late eighties, Jacob, each Alan, Jacob, each, um, not so done. School was pretty boring, but he's got a job done with goals. But then you had Modra who was like a actual superhero over in Adelaide, Tony Modra, Tony Modra looks like a superhero. I don't know. And you had people like that locket.
Like there was characters in the game, like Plugger threw a crunch at Eddie McGuire's head. Remember that? Have you seen that footage? Eddie McGuire's trying to interview him when he's got an injury and Plugger just picks up the crunch and throws it at Eddie McGuire. Like...
tyson (32:51.53)
Nah.
tyson (32:58.877)
I would love to throw a crutch at Eddie McGuire.
billy stiles (33:01.198)
I think a lot of people would.
tyson (33:04.985)
That's wild though, man.
billy stiles (33:05.118)
My mum taught, yeah, yeah. My mum taught it for old Meadows primary school, one of the West Meadows primary or Meadowbank primary actually for 30 years and Eddie McGuire's parents lived across the road, Scottish and English I think they are. And she'd always see them out the front, but she never saw him. Eddie was never there. Did he say? Yeah. I don't know, probably in it.
tyson (33:29.888)
I wonder what he's doing, probably out in the footy oval.
billy stiles (33:33.994)
You know what I mean? Who knows? He did pretty well out of life, Eddie, didn't he? You know, he's done well. Like, you know, he's done well.
tyson (33:38.877)
He worked hard for it, man. He still hosts Who Wants to Be a Millionaire 24 years later. Like there's some things you look at and you go, okay, like you're clearly, this is paying well because there's no way in any other universe that Eddie McGuire's still hosting Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.
billy stiles (33:52.758)
No, it's a good, that's one of the best trivia gigs to get, isn't it? Hasn't that sort of bad one? I, yeah. If I'm like, he's done well, good on him. Like I'm fascinated by people that make their life that good out of, I mean, nowhere, you know what I mean? Like he's had some drive, hasn't he? Were you ever, cause you played sport like me, were you fascinated by the ones that were right at the top, what drove them and stuff like that?
tyson (33:57.509)
It would be. Just whispering the answers in your ear.
tyson (34:22.681)
Oh, for sure. Like I'm so, I'm so fascinated with Nick Dacos at the moment, just cause I always liked Josh and then Nick came in and I heard rumors that Josh was, sorry, that Nick was a better player than his brother Josh. And I was like, oh, that's a big call. Like, especially for a debut. And especially cause you see so many, I don't know what he was drafted as. Like, I don't know if he was a number one draft pick, but I remember there's so many number one draft picks. So, okay.
billy stiles (34:28.866)
Gosh, yeah.
billy stiles (34:43.798)
Now father, it would have been father son. So you don't, you avoid that you skipped the draft because you know what I mean? Cause your dad's day cost, they go where to scrap, Collin would just get to grab him with it. I think they might have to give up a pick. They can give up like a pick 78. So you know what I mean? It's not like, yeah, I think father's son. Yeah. But yeah, I heard those rumors too, that he was better than the other brother.
tyson (34:54.578)
Ah sure.
tyson (35:08.069)
It's just interesting what drives people. And some people like, there's just such different factors that drive an athlete to different levels. And I always reckon some of it, like I would love to know who the exceptions to this rule are, cause I'm sure there's plenty, but the younger brother factor. Like I remember when I was a school teacher, you would always know who the youngest sibling was, cause they were always a bit more lippy. Like you could tell they'd been pushed around a bit and they had to fend for themselves a little bit more. So there was that factor. But then like, I think Josh is five years older than Nick.
billy stiles (35:32.375)
Yeah.
tyson (35:38.021)
And so like, if you're going to be rubbing shoulders with Josh and his mates, you're going to want to lift your game because like when you're 15 and when you're 10, like good luck trying to get a kick with your older brothers mates at that age, like you have to be desperate, but then just like the confidence that must come from seeing your old man just dominate the AFL back in the late eighties, like in Peter Dacos, you go, okay, there's something there as well. And then I even heard, yeah, I even heard him in like a little interview.
billy stiles (35:43.534)
Yeah.
billy stiles (35:59.906)
Yeah, like it's normal. Here you go.
tyson (36:04.917)
that the Collingwood footy club did a while ago saying, all right, if you could sit down with four people at the dinner table, who would it be? And he was like Novak Djokovic, LeBron James. I can't remember who the other people were, but they were like elite athletes. And he's like, oh, and I just remember thinking, okay, this guy's fascinated with, with what it means to be an elite athlete. Like he's, he's just all in. And so I respect that as well. Um, but yeah, it's, it's something that not, not even just with athletes, just with people in every field. I'm like,
Comedy is weird as well, because you look at comedy and some people are like Sam Kinnison's of the day, or Richard Pryor, they're just like absolute coke heads, no structure to their life and they're funny as, and then you hear people like Joe Rogan, who's like heaps of discipline, heaps of structure and still selling out arenas. It doesn't seem to be one direct ticket to.
billy stiles (36:54.518)
Hard work, generally hard work is the common denominator. Where those freaks, sometimes there's a freak that doesn't do work, but they're absolute freaks. Like Gary Ablett Sr., they reckon he used to turn up, not even do pre-season, and then just beat everyone in every test, except for the long distance. They said he had no tank, but he didn't need it. They reckon they'd pull him out of the, like he'd be in a pile of 10 minutes.
tyson (37:11.827)
I'm gonna go.
billy stiles (37:22.318)
where he went on the field and then he just hit six in the first quarter. You know, I know like those freaks, I like they're just born. Gary Albert senior, even though junior was a gun, Gary seen is because I'm with footy, I was like an obsessed kid that could kick left and right and I'll do all this, but I would only like the people that could do stuff I couldn't do. And.
Gary Eversenia was just one of those blokes that I'm like, oh, that guy can do. Like he can do it all. That guy. I remember they put him in the center once against West Coast and he got 35, 65. And just won the match off his own boot. He'd never really played in the center for a while, you know, like, and he could stand on their heads and take marks. It wasn't much he couldn't do, but yeah, they work. But, but as far as, yeah, most of the time it's work ethic. Joe Rogan, he's got mad work ethic, but they enjoy it.
I enjoyed the grind. Whereas I didn't have work. It's probably I've got, I kind of try to apply it now to comedy a bit. Cause I didn't do it for sport. Like I didn't, it sounds stupid, but I, cause I, when you're not, when you have a natural kind of ability, you don't think you need to work and then yeah, it's, I never put it together that I could have done both. You know what I mean?
tyson (38:47.173)
Yeah, oh, for sure. I reckon this is, I used to always say, I say this now to athletes that I coach, that I reckon just the ability to put in the hard work and be consistent is almost a talent in itself. And you always notice that like the most natural kids as juniors, they always see, or not always, but a lot of the time they seem to lack that work ethic for the reason you just explained. It's like, oh, I've got it. I've got what everyone's striving towards. And then...
billy stiles (39:10.114)
Yeah, well, why do I, if I'm winning best and fairest in under 10s, why do I have to do the training? I'm not training now and I'm winning them.
tyson (39:18.177)
Hehehehe
billy stiles (39:19.754)
But like that was me and then, and then when kids started growing and working harder, I'm like, why are they getting good? And I'm not, I'm just staying the same. You know what I mean? I didn't put it, I didn't put it together, but, um, yeah, that's what you look. And I look back now and I'm like, I started a new pursuit comedy. I'm like, I've got to do something different to make this work. And I'm trying to, I'm still lazy though. Like I still.
tyson (39:29.566)
Mm.
billy stiles (39:49.746)
I could do more a lot of the time.
tyson (39:52.865)
In what way are you lazy with comedy do you reckon?
billy stiles (39:55.582)
writing like I'll sit down to write and I'll just draw pictures of old footy stadiums and that's still like I'm back at school for like four and I'll just get out at the end of the session I haven't written I haven't even written one word you know or I've just started texting mates or talking about old songs what do you think of this old song and I just get distracted but I think that's also what makes me a bit so I can't really
Like I can't be a robot, you know, and just, oh, get up, get up at four, ride for two hours, meditate for 45 minutes, drink four liters of water. Be grateful. I go nuts. I got to eat a donut. Like I, like today I just got up and I'm like, I'm so, I felt a bit flat. So I just ate two sausage rolls, a can of Coke and had a coffee.
tyson (40:27.824)
Nah.
tyson (40:40.501)
Hehehehehehehehe
tyson (40:54.273)
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billy stiles (40:57.21)
So like yesterday I got blueberries and dark chocolates. I'm like, I'm going to be healthy as today. Let's get some of, let's get some of that serotonin. But, but today it's funny when you're tired, you just go for it. It's like, that's what I feel like I need. I don't know. I'm odd man. You know, you're pretty, you're pretty structured. Right. In your life.
tyson (41:02.145)
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tyson (41:14.009)
Yeah, it is weird man. Like, yeah, yeah I am with a lot of things. Like I, yeah, I'm fascinated by this subject just because like it's not always the most disciplined person who's the funniest or the fastest or whatever. Like I used to look at runners and I'd be like, all right, so the Kenyans run 150K a week. So if I run 200K a week, that means I'm gonna be better than the Kenyans.
billy stiles (41:36.438)
Um.
tyson (41:39.741)
And then you start trying to do that and you start getting stress fractures. You're like, okay, well, there's a limit here to, like, it's not always the, there's a Canadian guy called Cam Myers. And Cam Myers in high school or college was known for running like 300 Ks a week and doing three runs a day. And he was very good, but he would get his ass kicked by Kenyans who were doing half the amount of training. And I'm often like, all right, like, sure, natural talent's a thing, putting in the works a thing, but then there's other factors like,
billy stiles (41:39.808)
Mmm.
billy stiles (41:48.255)
Mm.
lit.
billy stiles (41:56.119)
Yeah.
Yeah.
tyson (42:09.841)
Um, just being able to rock up with enthusiasm and joy for it. And that's where I always like, I'm trying to find the balance between, I feel like the sweet spot for me with comedy is if I can do four gigs a week, I feel like I'm pumped to get up every time. Like, I feel like I'm ready to go. I bring like a good energy, but if I start doing, I know some people, they like to do 10 or whatever and good on them, like, and some people work better off that, but I'm always like, I feel like if I did 10,
billy stiles (42:13.858)
Hmm.
billy stiles (42:21.518)
Hmm. Yeah.
billy stiles (42:33.538)
Hmm.
tyson (42:37.201)
I start sacrificing other things in my life that actually makes my tank feel full and makes me love comedy. So I just start going to comedy being like, oh, like, so I don't know, man. It's a weird, yeah, weird.
billy stiles (42:43.074)
Hmm. Yeah. It's a grind. Yeah. I was, I was grinding the last month or two doing heaps of gigs and stuff. And then for the last two weeks, I looked at the diary and there wasn't much in there. And I didn't even, I'll straighten that up. I didn't even bother finding more gigs. I just went to have a rest. If you felt like I had to have a rest because I was getting, I was just grinding. I didn't want to go. I was tired.
Yeah, it's hard. It's a balance, but then once again, it comes back to that thing that everything's made. You make up every belief in your head. So you go, those people do 10 a week. They're like, I have to do 10 a week. They've got that belief that they have to do 10 a week, but you can have the beliefs that you only have to do four. And it's the same thing. Your brain just goes, yeah, that's all I need to do to be sharp.
Roger Federer doesn't train the same way or didn't train the same way Djokovic and Nadal do and they've both, they've all got the same result. So yeah, it's, you got to train an acceptable amount, but yeah, it's, there's no exact science to it. With the Kenyans and the African runners and that, like, do you just think they're just genetically better from their history, their history of like, would it be that during their history of like how they live?
tyson (43:59.029)
Yeah, I think, I think they...
tyson (44:06.781)
Man, I reckon it's a combination of factors. I reckon it's so many things. So like, I was talking to a guy on my running podcast recently, and this is the newest thing that I've been thinking about, and it makes so much sense. Like if you look at my face shape and like my jaw structure and stuff like that, you can pretty clearly see on my mom's son. Like you look at my mom, you look at him, you go, oh yeah, I get that. Like they got some pretty common features. You look at the Kenyans and bro, since the 60s, probably even before that,
billy stiles (44:35.114)
Yeah.
tyson (44:37.321)
They were still running obviously, but they weren't competing necessarily. Like they were, but you know what I mean, not like they are now. Since the 60s, these guys, like they look at their dad and their dad's a world champions. And if their dad wasn't a world champion, it was their neighbor or it was their friend's dad or whatever. So you wake up, you're like, all right, so I'm a Kenyan, like Kenyans dominate this sport. And to what you were just talking about then, you're like, all right, so I've got factor one tick, I'm a Kenyan. Like that's pretty good place to start or I'm an East African. And then...
Not to mention the fact that their lifestyle is so different to the way that we live as well. Like they're not civilized to death like we are. Like it's not just, okay, wake up, go to work, come home, blah, blah. It's a much more relaxed kind of a lifestyle. They seem to have more rhythms in their life as well. And then, so there's that. But then, if you look at the average running group in Melbourne, there might be like eight people going out for a jog and that's cool. Dude, you look at the morning runs.
billy stiles (45:29.447)
Hmm
tyson (45:33.493)
going out of some of the training camps. I'm not kidding, there's 300. And in those 300, 50 of them have run two hours, eight or faster. And so you can run two hours, eight, which is pretty much 30 seconds short of the Australian record, and you're 50th in your group, in your town. And so you're like, all right.
billy stiles (45:36.844)
Mm.
billy stiles (45:50.186)
It'd be hard. It'd be hard to make the Kenyan national team, wouldn't it? They'd have people ranked 50 in their suburb to beat you, wouldn't they? You'd be close to the best runner in Queens, but you'd have to be the best in Queens, wouldn't you? Would you? You are.
tyson (45:54.629)
Dude, dude, set the...
tyson (46:01.581)
Oh, with that, bro, that'd have people 500th in their suburb that would make me look like a bitch.
tyson (46:12.577)
Surely if there's someone beating me in Queenscliff, there ha-
billy stiles (46:15.342)
Boydie, Boydie wouldn't get close. Boydie can run pretty quick, but he wouldn't get close to you. But so you'd be the best in Queenscliff. If you need Queenscliff suburb in Africa, there'd be like 10 dudes that can bet you.
tyson (46:25.493)
dude, there'd be way more than 10 dudes that could beat me in Queenscliff version of Africa. And girls as well. The only thing, so yeah, there's so many factors. The only thing that's, they've recently discovered EPO, so there's a lot of Kenyans getting pinged for EPO at the moment, which is a lot newer. Like there's a lot. Every couple of weeks there's another Kenyan coming out. And then...
billy stiles (46:27.894)
or girls and girls. Girls too.
billy stiles (46:40.366)
Well.
billy stiles (46:45.762)
Someone else has put, but like no one from Kenya is putting them on API. That'd be like someone from there, like from wherever they live now, wouldn't it? Like, is that.
tyson (46:54.293)
I don't know, man. I don't know. I reckon they're catching up with the times. They've got some pretty high profile coaches over there now who are pretty westernized in terms of their.
billy stiles (47:00.994)
Has so where do the Africans that are good sprinters come from? Is that like the Frankie Frederick's and the Zandia and you know?
tyson (47:11.089)
Yeah, where was... was he... he was in Barber Way or something random, wasn't he? Where was Frankie Fredericks from?
billy stiles (47:14.67)
I think that is Zambia, Africa. Yeah, Frankie Frederick.
tyson (47:18.281)
Uh, Zambia, let me just find out Frankie Frederick's, uh, where he's from. Cause that's a, that's a name I haven't heard for a little while actually. Uh, Frankie Fred Ricks. Um, where are we going here? Yeah. Uh, Frankie. Frankie Fred. Dude, he's a, he's a blast from the.
billy stiles (47:38.273)
Namibia? Is it Namibia or Namibia? Something like that.
tyson (47:40.894)
Uh, Freddie Fulmer, Tracking Field, Middle East. Where is it? Namibian.
billy stiles (47:47.494)
Maybe. Yeah. So yeah, he's at Africa. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, but isn't that the West Africans are sprinters? Is that right?
tyson (47:48.949)
Yeah.
tyson (47:53.301)
Where is Namibia? Dude, I've got no idea where Namibia is. I'm gonna Google it.
tyson (48:01.865)
Southern Africa. Say that again, sorry.
billy stiles (48:04.45)
So there's a part of Africa that's the princess come from, which is another thing. Isn't it like, or is it.
tyson (48:09.989)
Yeah, well, dude, you're actually testing me here because there's not that many, like in terms of, if you look at the start line of 100 metre Olympic final, you might see one or maybe two Africans. Like they're usually Jamaican and American and there's a couple of British and they're all black. But I don't know, there's always like a random, there's a couple of Kenyan sprinters coming through who have broken 10 seconds now, which I mean, isn't what it was back in 1999, but it's still bloody fast, obviously.
billy stiles (48:21.308)
Yeah.
billy stiles (48:25.031)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
billy stiles (48:33.194)
Yeah. How is it?
billy stiles (48:39.543)
Yeah.
tyson (48:39.573)
Um, yeah, where, where are the Kenk, the African sprinters from? I'm not a hundred percent sure. I don't know.
billy stiles (48:45.63)
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, who is, who's won it? Oh, you're saying Bolt, where's Heath from?
tyson (48:50.301)
He's Jamaica.
billy stiles (48:51.842)
Jamaica, IZ. So that's the Caribbean. It's, is that near Africa on the map? Wait, get a map up. Can you get one? I want to know where, I want to know where Jamaica is compared to Africa. Like is it on the-
tyson (48:53.514)
Yeah.
tyson (48:59.017)
Dude, that's a great question. I gotta get a map up.
tyson (49:04.571)
I can get one.
tyson (49:09.469)
Let me try and, I'll do a screen share with you. Give me one sec. I'll share that. I'm gonna open up a tab here. All right, what are we looking at? A world map. See, this is the beauty of technology again.
billy stiles (49:21.94)
Tell me where Jamaica is compared to Kenya. I wanna know.
tyson (49:25.977)
Alright, maps. I've just written world map Jamaica. Oh here we go, alright I'll share this with you brother. Share a window. Tire screen.
billy stiles (49:32.162)
Hmm.
tyson (49:40.201)
All right, here we go. Give me one. Oh, far out. I've just mirrored myself there. Can you see that? There we go.
billy stiles (49:41.494)
From where?
Yeah. So what's up? So that's what Jamaica, what's an island. Where's, um, I'm trying to zoom out on it. Like it's my thing.
tyson (49:49.565)
So there's Jamaica.
tyson (49:56.089)
Oh dude, so it's between, okay, so this is embarrassing. This is, this is, so it's between Brazil and.
billy stiles (50:00.503)
What?
So where's Africa? So where is, where is, where is, what? Isn't it?
tyson (50:05.705)
That's nowhere near Africa. What is it? What's over here? Okay, so here we go, bro. So this, can you see my little cursor? So that's Jamaica right there. There's the USA. There's South America. Bro, Africa's a six hour flight away.
billy stiles (50:14.818)
Yeah.
billy stiles (50:23.822)
It's not that far though, is it? Like 60 hours, that's not much. Really.
tyson (50:29.617)
I guess when you think about the fact it's a four hour flight to Perth...
billy stiles (50:32.97)
Yeah. So it's kind of, oh yeah, it's kind of west. So it's west of Africa.
tyson (50:40.235)
Yeah.
billy stiles (50:41.354)
They say the West Africans go to the West, go back to Africa. What are the West African countries called? Can you get Africa? Zoom in on Africa. And what are the ones in the West? What countries are on the West side of it?
tyson (50:48.373)
Where do we go?
tyson (50:53.725)
Alright, here we go. We've got Morocco.
billy stiles (50:56.062)
Yes, I reckon they got sprintses. Who else?
tyson (51:00.297)
See, Morocco, yeah, Liberia, I'm not 100% sure. The Gambia, Ghana, I reckon Ghana might have a couple of sprinters.
billy stiles (51:05.718)
Yeah, they are.
billy stiles (51:09.462)
Where's um, Merlaine Oddie from? Remember her? Do you remember her?
tyson (51:13.097)
Ah, dude. Far out. I do remember her. That's... Yeah, dude, I remember. She's a little bit Merlin-oddy. I'm Googling that on my phone right now. Merlin... She competed till she was like 45, didn't she?
billy stiles (51:21.282)
She might be.
Yeah, she can pay it for a few countries over her original country. I want to know what that was. She or the sprinter.
tyson (51:29.257)
Merlin
my little Google now.
billy stiles (51:33.994)
He came back at 48.
tyson (51:36.245)
Dude, that was ridiculous.
billy stiles (51:38.69)
Remember the swimmer Dana Torres come back 16 years after. Do you remember that? So after this Google Dana Torres, but tell me where Merle Nott is from.
tyson (51:42.854)
Oh what?
tyson (51:51.061)
Dude, Merlin Oddie is, uh, it says here that she was born in Hanover Parish, Jamaica.
billy stiles (51:57.198)
Jamaica. So Jamaican's a legit mask. That's official. She never won gold. She never won gold though, don't I think?
tyson (52:01.985)
I feel like before, yeah. Dude, I'm opening up her Wikipedia page now because I know very little about it. Is that right? She's 63 now.
billy stiles (52:11.658)
Yeah, and I reckon she went to the Olympics at 48 for another country, representing another country. Have a look at her Olympics history. The last one will be from like a different country, Slovenia. Yep. Something like that.
tyson (52:17.749)
Yeah!
tyson (52:22.241)
Slovenia, maybe? Yep, it says here, it says here Jamaican Slovenian. Man, that's 15 years ago that she, because I remember when she came back as a 48 year old. It's weird that she's 63 now.
billy stiles (52:31.382)
I'm in peace.
Yeah. So Google Donna Torres, right? She's a swimmer from America. I'm pretty sure she went to the 84 Olympics and the 2000 and maybe even the 2008 Olympics. So she had like a, so she had like a 28 year gap or something like that. She won medals at all of them.
tyson (52:41.415)
Hmm.
tyson (52:47.929)
Down the toilet.
tyson (52:54.517)
Dude, she's stunning. Don't it, Tara?
billy stiles (52:56.202)
Yeah. So have a look at it. He's have a look at a metals though. How far apart they are.
tyson (53:01.189)
Okay, what do we got here? So she's born in 67.
billy stiles (53:02.486)
I like a good, because I love a good comeback, you know what I mean? As you get old, as you get older, you like, you want to know older people can still do stuff.
tyson (53:07.265)
But...
tyson (53:12.221)
Man, it's the story of my life. I was constantly looking at the progress of young athletes, like seeing how fast they ran at my age. All right, Dana Torres, born in 67, American competitive swimmer who's 12-time Olympic medalist. Okay, 12-time Olympic medalist. Okay, here we go. Represent United States in five Olympic games, 84, 88, 92, 2000, and 2008.
billy stiles (53:17.014)
Yeah, yeah.
billy stiles (53:33.214)
Yep. So she's had two comebacks, dude. Like she said, so she can't, she had a gap between 2000 and 2008. I reckon 2008 she made one of metal man like that's she's, I think she's the best comeback story because I, I'm pretty sure in 2000 she had a better Olympics than 84 and swimming's notorious. But you got to retire young. So that.
tyson (53:46.089)
That is wild, isn't it?
tyson (53:59.133)
I heard an interview with Cali Slater recently and he's 53, I think. 53? Yeah, he's quite, I mean, he's over 50. And he was saying, I can't remember who he was talking to. Oh, Hicks and Gracie said to him, like 15 years ago or 10 years ago, oh dude, like you should hang up the boots now because you've had an incredible career, go out on top. He said he saw him five years later and he'd won two more.
billy stiles (54:06.57)
Yeah, 51 maybe.
tyson (54:28.125)
world surfing titles and he's like, I'm so glad I didn't listen to your advice.
billy stiles (54:32.406)
Yeah, you can do it. It's pretty, that's like, yeah, you can kind of do what you want. People try and tell you, you can't do stuff. Um, who was the one, Mark Spitz won seven Olympic golds in 72, I think, at Munich, Montreal, Munich. And he tried to come back in 2000 or 96 or something like that. He was swimming the same time as the 50 year old, but he couldn't make the team anymore because of the times, but he was still swimming fast, but it's real hard to make it.
tyson (54:59.573)
That is wild.
billy stiles (55:01.526)
Yeah, he tried to do it. I think someone paid him to try and make the comeback, but you haven't got the same hunger plus he was old, but Janet Evans, she was one of the best of all time. And she, she couldn't make a team when she tried to come back as well. She was unbeatable at one stage. It's interesting.
tyson (55:17.249)
There would be no one who matches your sporting trivia, would there? Is there anyone who can sit down and riff with you as you've got incredible, like all sports as well. It doesn't matter tennis, swimming, football, track and field.
billy stiles (55:24.439)
Um...
billy stiles (55:29.274)
Yeah. I take in stats and I'm taking things that are important and they stay. Yeah. I'm fast because I've got an interest in it. Um, it stays in my head. Someone said once that I've got the best footy knowledge of anyone they've ever met, like I should be a commentator or something they said, yeah.
tyson (55:46.685)
You should be a special comments guy. Like get rid of dark or something. Just go, yeah, I mean, like it was great what Jamie Elliott just did, but remember what BT did back in 1981? Kicked a goal after the sorry to win by four points.
billy stiles (55:57.887)
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like I did a, I did a gig at L ladies college, the girls school in Heidelberg. And I was sitting there like a dinner table and I started chatting to this guy and I'm saying, Oh, do you ever play sport and stuff? And he goes, Oh yeah, I played for Melbourne tigers and Cambric and I just started reeling off names from the old MBL and it was like, wow, I can't remember you remember that dude. And I don't know what it's maybe like a spectrum thing with me, but I've always had it.
My uncle used to sit me on the bath stool at the MCG hotel when I was 10. And cause I'd read the record or the footy record all day. I'd study the numbers. Let's study out to all they were. And he'd say to these drunks, Hey, I bet you 10 bucks. You can't. Can you ask my, ask my nephew any. Who's number whatever for any club in the league. And they'd say, Oh, he's number 32 for Hawthorne. And I just thought, Oh yeah, Colin Robertson. And me, my uncle would just pocket money all night.
These drunks were just betting and I'm 10 years old drinking lemon squashes on the school. Yeah. And he'd take me there to like 11 at night. And I'll just, I'd have, cause every time he got a beer, he'd get me a lemon squash. And I was putting him down anymore. So then I'd just be full of soft drink and I'd go back to my granny's joint when my uncle did to me, mom would be like upset. My uncle took me to the footy and we're not, it's 11 at night. We're not home yet. You've got me.
tyson (56:58.68)
He's the hustler.
tyson (57:07.873)
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tyson (57:21.768)
Yeah
billy stiles (57:23.082)
He's got me the pub betting with like drugs. Yeah. And he's, but he's pocketed about 200 bucks, you know, you make him money off of you. So, um, yeah, but yeah, I've always had, I've always had that, that knowledge. And I've started on people where I hear it sometimes on my, I'll hear someone in the conversation, talking about sport and I'll just, I'll just yell out the correct stat and walk off.
tyson (57:26.95)
You had 18 lemon squashes. Oh dude that's so funny. Why is it?
tyson (57:50.25)
Hahaha
That's so good.
billy stiles (57:53.534)
I go, nah, it wasn't him. You'll find it was someone else. I just can't let him think it's the wrong person.
tyson (58:02.705)
There was a kid at a school I used to teach at, and I remember the first day I got there, he came up and he goes, what's your birthday? And I was like, that's nice, like this kid is just desperate to know my birthday, wants to find out about me, and I told him. And dude, that was the only time I ever talked to him, he was a little Asperger's kid, he came back to me nine months later, and every now and then I'd just walk past him and go, hey, what's, like, I'd look at another kid in the playground and go, what's their birthday? He'd be like, oh, fifth of March, 19, whatever.
billy stiles (58:22.743)
Yeah.
tyson (58:24.873)
And I'd go over to the kid, I'd go, hey, what's your birthday guys? On fifth of March. I said, that's unbelievable. Like there's 200 kids in this school.
billy stiles (58:25.164)
Yeah, yeah.
billy stiles (58:30.547)
Yeah. I didn't. Yeah. And cause he didn't, they're just naturally interested in like, even when you said your old man played footy or I watched something you were on months and your dad was on it. And he mentioned the SAA. So then I just went down a half an hour rabbit hole on your old man's footy career. So I probably know more about your dad's footy career than you. Well, I can get down at playing down at Gippsland and it was articles written on him. And that lucky.
tyson (58:41.023)
Oh, with Phil Smythe.
tyson (58:50.589)
Dude, I bet you do. I bet you do.
billy stiles (58:57.854)
A good on bola.
tyson (59:00.181)
Dude, he'll love that as well. He'll love that. The fact that Billy Starr is Australia's best comedian saying to him, I know about your footy career.
billy stiles (59:08.758)
Play footy with Jeff Jennings against him. And he was in interleague, so I was like, you're old man, so he's all right, right? But I just naturally, I'm like, oh, I've got to find out. And I looked up your running times, oh yeah. So I've got that in my head. I just compile knowledge, man. Like that, you know, how we got talking about, when me and you met, and I went straight into Steve Prefontaine's story. So I spent like a whole week
tyson (59:16.498)
Dude, you're above and beyond my level of knowledge.
tyson (59:24.149)
Hahaha!
tyson (59:35.861)
Couldn't believe it.
billy stiles (59:39.234)
just absorbing Steve Prefontaine information. I ran out of stuff on the internet. I got it all. Like I, I watched both movies about him. And then in the end, I couldn't find any more information on him. Yeah. So.
tyson (59:56.789)
Dude, that's awesome. I love it. It must be so interesting, I reckon. Like I hear people like that. Like, I'd just be so interesting to be. I love that curiosity. I love it when people are just so naturally curious about whatever it is that they're doing. Like my kids are like that. He walks around, he's like, dad, what's that? I'm like, it's a brick. He's like, awesome. That's so good.
billy stiles (01:00:07.554)
Mm.
billy stiles (01:00:12.706)
Yeah. And then on the flip side, though, if someone's talking about politics, my brain just goes to sleep. You know what I mean? It's like who, who was prime minister in 1996? I'm like, no idea. You know, like my brain hasn't even got it. It hasn't got it in me to even look for the result. I don't care. But who won the reserve gold kick in 1982? You know, I'm all over it.
tyson (01:00:19.165)
For sure, yeah, it has to be on the spectrum of interest.
tyson (01:00:25.265)
Yeah, I think it was, yeah, I was gonna try and impress you.
tyson (01:00:32.402)
Heheheheheheh
tyson (01:00:40.33)
Well, yeah, bro, I'm I've got it I've got it love you leave you in a minute cuz I'm going to Leopold to have a coffee with a mate before I drive Down to Melbourne tonight and try and get a gig I'm gonna go to the lounge tonight because I think I'm ev hocking in Tommy see get around if you if you're around
billy stiles (01:00:48.854)
right. All right. Yeah. Dan, Connell. I might, yeah, I've got dirty secrets. And I said, I'll go up. That's not probably much come over. I think I'm going to be at another 10. We've got another 10 podcasts in this. I reckon like nostalgia. It's, it's, I don't know. But yeah, no, good chat, man. And I'll, um, you might see it tonight.
tyson (01:00:59.573)
Ah, sweet.
tyson (01:01:03.042)
Oh, I just feel like I'm getting warmed up.
for sure.
Yeah, I'll shoot your message.
tyson (01:01:16.217)
Oh brother, wait that was fun.
billy stiles (01:01:18.902)
I'll get some, can I get this footage somehow? And I'll cut up, or you'll cut up videos, but I'll, yeah, I like putting stuff out there, cutting them up.
tyson (01:01:21.597)
Yeah.
tyson (01:01:26.701)
Dude, I'll send it to ya. Yeah, I'll send you some clips and stuff. Give me, I'll get onto it tomorrow.
billy stiles (01:01:31.466)
Yeah, whenever. Yeah, cool. All right, dude. Thanks, Ty. See you later. Bye. Good chat. See you.
tyson (01:01:33.269)
All right, brother. Boy, that was fun, man. Speak soon, brother.
See you then.