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A fun and accessible look into Hobart and Tasmanian Property with 4one4 Property Co. Real Estate Agents, Patrick Berry and John McGregor
Aaron Horne
I was only listening to something last night with that, saying crypto was kind of the buzz word of a year or two ago, and that's all kind of come crumbling down. But this kind of dawn of A.I. that is kind of not Terminator or Matrix style, where it's kind of taking over the world.
Patrick Berry
Going one.
John McGregor
Young one. So you're listening to the property.
Aaron Horne
All right, guys, welcome back to the property pod, your weekly engagement in the real estate here in the Hobart marketplace. I'm your host, Aaron Horn, and we are back in action at the desk Powerhouse Property Pod team, John McGregor and Patrick Barry. Welcome back. Matt Evans Please be quiet in the background. Hey, he came in this morning. Just sorry, anyone that didn't hear that Mark Evans, real estate agent here is screaming from the rooftops.
Aaron Horne
He came in with a very joyous hello.
Speaker 4
Yeah, you just. He was almost singing it.
Patrick Berry
Yeah. Hello.
Aaron Horne
What's been happening has been, like, just, like, slammin deals in the last few days.
Patrick Berry
I think he has closed a few deals, so it's probably on a bit of an endorphin high at the moment. Yeah. Yeah.
Aaron Horne
So normally I try and steer the ship away from real estate in the early days of the podcast to warm myself up and just like talk about the things I know about.
Speaker 4
But if we were talking about real estate, we probably have a very dynamic.
Aaron Horne
But I want to jump straight in because I think I saw on Friday coming through like the the workplace chat, it's like five contracts, like all like, no, it wasn't Friday. That was Good Friday. I did like five contracts. It's like slam down like we like my they, I was.
Patrick Berry
Like, yeah, what's.
Aaron Horne
Happening?
Patrick Berry
I think Wednesday Thursday we had a heap and then over the weekend I think we had another four as well. Yeah. To break. So yeah, it's been a busy couple of days.
Aaron Horne
So what does, what's this all about. What's going on.
Speaker 4
Why that, that remind me of two or it's feast or famine. That's just how it works. It just like you'll have these moments of nothing nothing, nothing away you doing all the work and it's just a forever grind. And then all of a sudden it just felt, you know, like the waterfall sort of just.
Patrick Berry
I think as well, you know, whenever you plan to have a couple of days off, that's when you're always busy planning. Break for a weekend. You're like, Yeah, I'm going to get away and have a little bit of time off and bang, that's when everyone wants to listen. Sell the house.
Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah. And Ailsa, to you, your focus becomes almost just laser like, you know. Yeah. All have days where So.
Patrick Berry
We're lazy 90% of the time but a weekend away before.
Aaron Horne
So why don't you just book holidays every third day.
Speaker 4
For four day.
Speaker 5
Weekend.
Aaron Horne
Yeah, we should, we should turn into a four day week. You know, they're traveling in Norway and all these countries seems to be working. People will buy on that day that you don't want to be working.
Speaker 4
Yeah, exactly So well we'll have to see like that is put that next next hour.
Aaron Horne
Speaking of feast or famine, all I could think of was how appropriate for the Last Supper across the Easter weekend that, you know, feast or famine with famine and into a feast. And if I keep saying feast or famine, one of you will jump on board. What I'm saying, totally understand.
Speaker 5
The host is waiting to see where this is go.
Speaker 4
I was trying to find it.
Aaron Horne
I was just I just want to find out about your Easter, basically. Tell me. I know you went away, Pat. I wanted to know. See how now I'm diverging away from real estate to try it.
Patrick Berry
Back to where you.
Aaron Horne
Back to where I want to be so hit.
Patrick Berry
With. So I did go to the lovely town of St Helens all eyes.
Aaron Horne
Yeah, very nice.
Patrick Berry
And the best bit about St Helens around the Easter period is it is chokers. And so therefore the internet doesn't work. Therefore your phone does not work. So regardless if I any deals to do John not good next time anyway.
Speaker 4
Delegation.
Patrick Berry
Because whatever is going on up there, the phone system can not handle the inflexible.
Aaron Horne
Oh I was yeah I was up the east coast as well across the, the Easter weekend and the same thing happened and it happens at Christmas and Easter seems to be all the people on the East Coast are there. People are trying to access their phones and the Internet, just the whole market, which I actually really like, I really enjoy it.
Aaron Horne
There was a few times where I was playing with Jack, my eldest, and I was just like, I'd probably by now I would have normally like picked up my phone and looked at it for no apparent reason, but I was like, I mean, I'm in the zone. Like this is way more fun. I wish the internet didn't work all the time.
Speaker 4
When I've got it on my phone and that that place is just that rabbit hole like this second it starts. And that's the problem about the phones now, like with all the different sites that are geared just to just like absorb your entire attention and all of a sudden 10 minutes goes, holy crap. Like I just completely lost who I was for a minute.
Speaker 4
It's almost like a time jump. So you can't time jump.
Patrick Berry
You can't.
Speaker 4
Feel too guilty sometimes when as you actually just jump into an air force of habit and boom, all that time is gone because it's just all of its geared to like capture your.
Aaron Horne
Attention. Yeah, well, that's an actually really interesting way to kind of spin into what we're talking about. It sounds like we're kind of negatively discussing technology, but what I kind of want to jump into was the way AI is shaping, it seems to be the buzzword of this year. I wasn't listening to something last night with. I was saying crypto was kind of the buzzword of a year or two ago and that's all kind of come crumbling down.
Aaron Horne
Yeah, but this kind of dawn of A.I. that is kind of not Terminator or Matrix style where it's kind of taking over the world just yet. Please don't hurt us. Overlords as I look up to the computer screen to see if the cameras on me.
Speaker 5
I you.
Aaron Horne
It's just really interesting though the way that artificial intelligence is kind of come into our world in in 2023. I know there's been early forms of it and I know you can talk to kind of what we are experiencing where they are at the moment and and kind of the idea of it's not a big mega computer that's kind of now going to take over.
Patrick Berry
A.I. scares a lot of people because I think it's going to replace jobs. I think people are basically screwed and that the robots are only a week away from taking over. Yeah, but what we actually got is what they call narrow ally, which basically means that it can do tasks but not as good or as efficient as what a human can do.
Patrick Berry
So every bit of high tech out there at the moment is in the narrow field of AI. Now they believe that it can get to what they call general AI, but general AI they still believe is a long way away and in super and general AIS where I and humans are competing on the same level and then super AI that I'm not that it'll ever exist.
Patrick Berry
But that's where AI is more intelligent than humans.
Speaker 4
And so with that too, that would mean that, that yeah, is actually implementing the work isn't it. Replacing the humans. Yeah.
Patrick Berry
So you know, super AIS you terminate a scenario where the robots control iRobot. I was thinking of last night when we were talking about.
Aaron Horne
Oh forget about I want Yeah. Will Smith and.
Patrick Berry
Yeah. Well are.
Aaron Horne
Feelings.
Patrick Berry
What's that other one where they true crimes where they stop the crimes before they happen. Oh Minority report say there's lots of. Oh they weren't A.I. they probably jumped off there. They were.
Aaron Horne
Just not. Yeah they were. Yes that was a bit different but still based on like the Philip K Dick ridings of sci fi of this idea, which was years and years in the past, like way back when they Sci-Fi concepts of, you know, a communication device that you could carry around with you was kind of this amazing thing that people thought of.
Aaron Horne
Now it's like if you keep my one year old literally knows how to scroll on his phone and and do all the things getting.
Patrick Berry
Off topic here. But back to Minority Report.
Aaron Horne
Yeah, I'll talk about our report all.
Patrick Berry
Day, baby. I do love the tech in that that didn't exist at the time. And the one that I always remember is when he's walking through the city and all the ads are aimed at him. Yeah, like he's all the billboards are just ads to him and what he's interested in. And my man, they actually had an idea.
Patrick Berry
It was like Simpsons, like, Yeah.
Aaron Horne
No.
Patrick Berry
Science future before came. A future?
Speaker 4
Yeah, just.
Aaron Horne
Just to go into that. Spielberg, who made that film, literally went to a futurist and said, you know, like what's coming down the pipe? And they did so much work into even all this swap technology and stuff that they do with the computer interfaces isn't exactly the same as what we have. But a bunch of stuff is touch screen, a bunch of the way that all of the automated cars are working and stuff is not too far away from what they're thinking.
Aaron Horne
And the targeted ads was a really big one, was what we get on our computers now and marketed to us is all these targeted ads. It's the exact same thing where it's they're walking through it says, Oh, this is Thomas Anderton, boom, you're interested in this. So yeah, it's it's not so far from the future.
Speaker 4
Shakespeare Got it. So you only see a specific image as well. And that's been slowly starting to be implemented, which is crazy.
Patrick Berry
Yeah. So Minority Report, great movie. Yeah.
Speaker 4
Yeah. I just want the one day for computers to actually feel and look as cool as that do in movies. Now I said no one ever uses a mouse on like the Windows or Apple desktop. I thought that was like the only use cable wouldn't talk really quickly.
Aaron Horne
Well, it's like we're we're diverging here about like well, your kids know, but your kids I'm thinking of the way that they can use the computers and stuff like you son. Yesterday I said our computers are so hard to use that. But he loves the tablet. Like he knows it's not using a mouse. It's using your finger. My son will be, you know, trying to touch my laptop screen.
Aaron Horne
It's not a touch screen. And he'll be so confused being like, Well, why is not doing the thing? I want to.
Patrick Berry
Argue with my daughter because she's not a great reader at the moment and we're trying to help out. She's like, Why do I need to write? I can just talk to my computer. Yeah, yeah, tell it what I needed to do. And she does. She literally presses the microphone and just speaks to it and then it brings back the results that she's after.
Aaron Horne
Yeah, exactly.
Patrick Berry
So her argument is, I don't need to learn to read.
Speaker 4
It's a pretty hard argument to get out of it, to go so you can invade this field. Life is like y.
Patrick Berry
Y.
Speaker 4
Look, look, look what? Everything's happening exactly as I needed to without reading your body.
Aaron Horne
If you go back to when we were at school, the idea of a calculator, it's cheating. Like if you had a calculator in math class, it's trading. Whereas now the teaching is, Oh, you don't know how to solve it. I go to a calculator at all, it'll help you. So it's all adapting to the times and being able to move forward with what that generation is going to use, which is where kind of this is stuff coming into real estate.
Aaron Horne
It's really interesting is you guys have worked in a time when you know you're writing all your own property text, all you're doing all the tasks that it takes to list a property. A bunch of that stuff can now be automated through this kind of machine learning. How is that opening up your time to kind of maximize your clients needs?
Patrick Berry
It's really interesting the way I see AI. It's a tool to help us have better conversations and offer a better service to our clients. Yeah, it's never going to replace us and our knowledge that we have, but it can give us the information faster then we can have a better, more detailed conversation to help people better understand their own needs and circumstances.
Aaron Horne
Yeah, for sure. So all this kind of data being crunched together at once can then shoot out a result that says, Let's go this way.
Patrick Berry
And we use a bucketload of different AI products here for one for nerd at heart. So I'd love to buy a robot wherever I can get one, but some of the ones that I think are really cool that we are using is like, if you look at our website for one for achondroplasia, we have a what is your Home Worth calculator, and that's in conjunction with our pay data where you can just type in your address of your home.
Patrick Berry
Yep. And then app data will give you a guess animation as to what the home is worth and will even give you a indication of how confident it is with its result. So it'll say low competence. Median official confidence. Yeah. And it does that by searching the internet, finding recent sales, looking at market trends from companies like the REIT that you love, John, to say, you know, is the market going up in that area?
Patrick Berry
Is it going down like it's madness, the amount of data it has access to to be able to give you a rough idea of what the home is worth?
Aaron Horne
Yes. So what we're kind of talking about in this AI space currently is the ability for the the machine to go and access all that data, collide it together in a quick way. Like you guys could be crunching all these numbers, sitting at your desk, doing it manually to kind of work out out. This is of check this suburb and it's worth all this.
Aaron Horne
This is kind of this instant feedback loop of here's the stuff and we can now present it to yeah wow vendor or.
Patrick Berry
I think it's fixable. And John and I started what would it be about half an hour to 50 minutes You'd probably spend researching the property maybe even longer.
Speaker 4
Only because the Yeah, the information wasn't so readily available for sure.
Patrick Berry
Yeah, but you spent, you spent a lot of time looking at graphs and trying to better understand what suburbs were doing. I'm looking at recent sales now you can just click a button and say, What is Mona doing? Yes. Spit out all the data and say Mona is trending upwards, downwards. It's neutral, but it's just amazing how quickly you can get access to that information now and laid out really clearly.
Patrick Berry
So you can interpret it and understand it better.
Aaron Horne
Yeah. And then basically be able to relay that to the people that you need it to. All kind of, Yeah, I'm looking for an instant process. Well, the data I've got is actually three months old. I can actually tell you what the market's doing. 11 Whereas you can be getting this up to date. Is that correct?
Patrick Berry
Yeah. So that's it. So the data we get access to tends to be a few months behind because I need the sale to be recorded and then logged in the data back out.
Aaron Horne
Yeah.
Patrick Berry
So in markets that are shifting like we're experiencing at the moment, prices that are being spat out on these automatic systems aren't always necessarily to.
Aaron Horne
The to the day and date, but they're.
Patrick Berry
Not. It gives us a starting point for us to then go and refine it to a better answer so we can then look at that and say, Yeah, that would have been correct six months ago or three months ago. Yep. And now the is doing this. So let's take that price and adjust it to meet where the current market might see it.
Aaron Horne
This is a really cool point because this is kind of where my next venture into a bunch of these are tools are really handy tools and I get you kind of 90% of the way there.
Patrick Berry
But that's where your human aspect.
Aaron Horne
Exactly. So it's still important because there's a bunch of tools that I'll use that will help me out and I'll just be like, like I've got, for example, in my side of the fence doing a bunch of digital styling and kind of making a place look nice. There's these I kind of it's like a content to where Phil will call it, where it'll basically take the image.
Aaron Horne
It'll have a room that's full of items and it can it's only in kind of a beta testing mode at the moment for the one I'm using. But basically it'll anticipate what's behind there based on like, you know, looking at the wall or the color of it and it'll fill it in.
Patrick Berry
Like remove an item and.
Aaron Horne
Remove an item out of the space to make an empty room, which I can then put the digital furniture on top of.
Patrick Berry
So an example for listeners might be I'm imagining where it got a room and and in the corner there's a pile of boxes because Tenant Scott got know all that stuff stacked up.
Aaron Horne
Or the dirty washing that didn't get moved didn't really want to touch the person's undies. So I was just like, I'll remove that in the computer later. There's now tools that are using machine learning to work out. Yep, this is the corner of the room. I can remake this in the computer and it's there's a bunch to starboard effusion.
Aaron Horne
We could really go into how it's happening, but essentially it's trying to recreate what it thinks is there.
Speaker 4
Yeah. Yep.
Aaron Horne
And it's 90% of the way there. And then I'll have to go in and touch it up. But it's getting better weekly each time I go back and test this tool. Mike are like, You can do that last week. Like, yeah, that's how it's learning the, the tricks of the trade. And then there's also ones that I've seen where when I'm editing photos, if I do it enough and put enough input in and I can learn my editing style and then kind of recreate a bunch of those edits.
Aaron Horne
Yeah. So all these little tools are kind of making a bunch of the time suck. I'm tasks become way, way easier and then you can focus your time on, on kind of more productive things.
Patrick Berry
Like the one I hate is property tax, absolutely hate writing property tax and everyone would have heard or most people now would have heard of GPT and that thing has just game blown up. Like, I'll be honest, it writes some absolute rubbish sometimes, but Elise, what I found when I use that to write my property tax is I used to get stuck in a loop.
Patrick Berry
I don't know if you have experiences, John, where I would if I'm writing Property Tax, I'd look back at the last ten properties I write and most of them sound pretty much the same. I'm just replacing three bedrooms. Two bit, Yeah, man. Living with separate loungeroom lot, but the actual flow of the story was always relatively close. Where I've checked JPT, it gets a lot of stuff wrong.
Patrick Berry
Back to that 90% Yeah. Aspect. But it helps me make the story sound different every time. So I will tell it. I want you to aim it towards an investor for me because that's what I think is best suited. Yeah, and write me a script and then all I have to do is just go back in and fix the little bits that don't make sense.
Patrick Berry
Yeah. So when it thinks it's got three bedrooms and it's actually four bedrooms, I just have to go tweak that or, you know, sometimes it might say beautiful views of hilly countryside and it's in the dead center of the city. Like it just makes some things up because it doesn't know the answers. I mean, you just got to fix those bits.
Aaron Horne
Yeah. So that all comes down to the prompts that you're putting in and kind of refining the prompts of, you know, you could say something along the lines of using your old address table, crescent play search table, present set number and find previous data and extrapolate on that and write a property text for me. So the, the more you refine the data into the prompt, so is where it becomes really interesting into a good age.
Aaron Horne
And then a lazy agent is you could literally take the one that it spat out originally put it out live just because just like they said, it was this. And then you get in all these calls saying, where's the fourth bedroom? Or Where's the beautiful mount of views? Whereas if you're a good agent, you're taking that time to then be like, okay, yeah, I've used a tool to get me 90% of the way.
Aaron Horne
Give me started, get me started. Now let's maximize my time by fixing up that little bit. This could have taken me an hour in the past. It's taken me 2 minutes to get to here. Now. It's taking me the next 10 minutes to fix up that.
Patrick Berry
Little bit and make it perfect.
Aaron Horne
Make it perfect.
Speaker 4
Well, that's I suppose the the last 10% with a human involvement is to come in and for our role specifically, which is ultimately to, you know, bring two parties to assist in making a decision to move forward with a sale of a home or a deal or, you know, lease or whatever. Yeah. So like, go back to the the data examples is what was that.
Speaker 4
What's the biggest website in Zillow? Yep, Zillow I know we've talked about a few years back now I suppose where they tried to use the AI assisted process and then from that you could just do an instant deal. So I'll just sell.
Patrick Berry
Your house is zero three clicks.
Speaker 4
They lost hundreds of millions of dollars because what they said was in real estate's a unique aspect because it zeroes down almost to the street level, you know, and also then okay, then on street level, condition doesn't have use, etc.. So there's such a human element involved in the purchasing of real estate because obviously we're living in it.
Speaker 4
And there's examples where a two that came to mind just recently because a couple that had an offer, you know, a couple of decades, one of the guy was a car salesman and I just had to go, What do you you know, how do you see a role in, you know, in this? What what do you see differently that just sort of palmed off?
Speaker 4
The fact was, look, all you young guys, even that's nearly 20 years in the game. Yeah, you're just using that.
Aaron Horne
It's bizarre. You say that. It's like, yeah, we're young guys.
Speaker 4
So but he but then he's like, why are you just using all the data and stuff like that? Whereas, you know, taking the human element out of it. So in their, in their part, like using all that information wasn't going to help them, that, that wasn't how they were going to, you know, assist them in making a decision.
Speaker 4
And then there's another, you know, other people will find that it's that analysis paralysis where he's like, oh, but the data set all this is not I said, all that is like, yeah, that no, because he wants that to be able to say no. That's the, you know, I guess for I see all the, you know, this implement it is information.
Speaker 4
The way the eye roles works I suppose is enabling us to assist in to get back into that human direction ultimately, which is where we can help and have our influence. Yes.
Aaron Horne
I think I think the key thing at the moment and be really interesting, like how it grows and and gets bigger. But the key thing is to see it as a tool that can assist you guys in the industry, perform your job better and not to be scared. I guess it's like the idea of like the mobile phone coming in or the Internet coming in and that it really disrupting everything.
Aaron Horne
This isn't like the hugest disruption where like now you just click on the three buttons like Zillow and a Terminator comes and sells your house, like Arnie shows up and he's just like, I'll be back to sell site here. Sorry I couldn't help myself. I thought of it earlier. I'm going to I've got to drop it in some way.
Speaker 4
He was saying this.
Aaron Horne
Yeah, Come with me. If you want to sell.
Patrick Berry
But it will The contract.
Speaker 5
Oh, yeah. No.
Aaron Horne
That's even better. Yeah. If you see this as a tool that can help maximize your time, like if the data can analyze, these are the hottest leads of the people interested in the property. They're the ones to call first. Rather.
Patrick Berry
That is a really good segue way when you start to look at client engagement and how you can use air as well. So yes, real estate dot com is one of the companies we use and most consumers wouldn't be aware that Aria actually ranked them.
Aaron Horne
Yes, based on their.
Patrick Berry
Four and.
Aaron Horne
Five years.
Patrick Berry
So when we get an inquiry from somebody, we can actually look at their ranking and make an assumption on how serious a buyer they are. Now, obviously, once again, not guaranteed, but I actually use this tool heaps. When I saw it last year, I was really strict. The market was very busy. A year ago we were selling things what we've been a couple of days, but we most times, John and I said to my dad, I'm doing an open home on Saturday.
Patrick Berry
You can only bring people through early if they have a score of seven or higher on real estate outcomes results. So I was happy if they couldn't make the open home and they wanted a private inspection, if they had a high RJ score, but if they had a score of one or two and they wanted an early inspection, I was like, not.
Aaron Horne
Yeah, I can wait till the lights.
Patrick Berry
Open. And so I use that to qualify my buyers as to who I was going to. Now I could obviously do that because I've got access to the general. Well, but, but, but it's an interesting way to to look at how, you know, you can decide on someone's value.
Aaron Horne
That's a that's a perfect reason to use an agent who is willing to use some of these tools like rather than just being like, Oh, yeah, I'm the agent that does it boots on the ground. I still put all the letterbox drops and do all these things that we did 40 years ago. If you've got an agent who can kind of maximize their time and be like, Oh yeah, I've got hot leads, cold leads, I'll still deal with the cold leads, I can come to the open home.
Aaron Horne
But if I, if the data says this guy's likely to buy a place in the next three months, why wouldn't you be nurturing that relationship over the ones that aren't those ones? So it's using it again as a tool to maximize your time and get the most out of your agent and the sale of your property.
Patrick Berry
And definitely and look, the reason why I was really keen on ranking my buyers before choosing who got to come through and who didn't get to come through was that for a lot of vendors, it's stressful, certainly in house and you don't want to have to get it ready 50 times a week. And Abby was like Stickler Perfect.
Patrick Berry
Like everything had to be. Mm, perfect.
Speaker 4
Which is great.
Patrick Berry
Which is fantastic. But it meant there was a bachelor to work every time we wanted to show somebody through the house. So in an ideal world, we would have just ran the open home. Everyone come to the open home and be done with it. But there was a couple of buyers that could make it. Yeah. And then we had to make a decision.
Patrick Berry
Do we let them in early? Because that's going to add extra pressure to us, extra work. And at that time we're in a market where, you know, we probably didn't even need to show them through because somebody would have come to the open and bought it anyway. Yeah, but yeah, it was just a way for us to make sure that we we didn't feel like we were wasting our time preparing the house for our showing.
Patrick Berry
Yeah. For somebody who was going to walk in and walk straight back out 2 minutes later.
Aaron Horne
No, but look, it's the power of taking that data, interpreting it in the way that needs to be done. And yeah, I guess it's such a broad topic. This I think, and there's so many different tools that are popping up and they seem to be popping up on the rig. Are there any other ones that you want to talk to, Pat or John, before we kind of wrap up today?
Aaron Horne
I know I was I was going through Ninos Pop together, a really good blog about a bunch of the tools. And I was kind of going in and adding my $0.02. We're kind of collaborating on this thing. I'm like, I'll do it. I'm so sorry. I'm like, I'm Frankenstein, This is. But he's like, Oh, now, man, are you passionate about it?
Aaron Horne
Like it's something that you're you doing all the time So.
Speaker 4
Well, there was one watching a video about why I generated art Can't do Hands Yet, which I thought was really fascinating. And I think it's maybe it's a good bookend to it because it's that thing where go back to your examples of rooms like there are so many photos of rooms and archives of rooms of what rooms who technically look like.
Speaker 4
Yeah, what a clean thing to technically look like. But the problem is that archiving hands is incredibly complex because every little thing is just so dynamic in the way that your hand moves.
Patrick Berry
Right? People are watching. Yeah.
Aaron Horne
And like and hand people as well, you know.
Speaker 4
Like let's hand look. Yeah. Done. Okay. But how should a hand hold the phone. So that's why when like in theory that's like a small archive for the eye to draw from. Yeah. What, what is a hand. But it has, it can't conceptualize how a hand actually works.
Aaron Horne
Unless you've put in the prompt like holding the phone with the fingers wrapped around. Like if you've been really specific about it.
Patrick Berry
And it's fascinating. You talk about hands because Aaron and I were playing with this unicorn on a car recently, so it's really weird, but it was a nineties real estate unicorn and we had giving the thumbs up, laying across the car was our prompt for the guy. Yeah. And the hand was what you had.
Aaron Horne
So I was rebuilding it.
Patrick Berry
So you were in using vector drawing to recreate its hand because it just looked a bit janky. So it's very interesting that you point out that because that's exactly what we experienced when we created that little unicorn mascot last week using that.
Speaker 4
So that's the thought, I suppose with the is there a barrier that technology will never be able to cross of the human experience? And is that a means that no matter what, it will always depend on each other to?
Patrick Berry
Well, I guess we'll have to bridge this topic in episode 750.
Speaker 4
Yeah.
Speaker 5
Anyway, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Aaron Horne
Well, the interesting thing is the last thing I want to bring up was I think it's 11 labs or something where it basically can create really good voice models. So essentially we could train a voice model into doing a poll, doing a podcast for us by episode 700. We want even be in the studio. Maybe it'll just bay, and I think eventually we'll be able to train it to be like, like.
Aaron Horne
Aaron Try and stay off topic.
Patrick Berry
John Well, talk.
Aaron Horne
Around a topic.
Patrick Berry
I'll add one more scary fact into the system as well. Last week there is an A.I. company that just signed with one of Hollywood's largest management companies for deepfake and voice recognition. Yeah. So that celebrities will no longer need to do paid gigs to sell products. The Deepfake and the voice locked from A.I. will just create it.
Speaker 4
For you, paying for their copyrights to that price.
Aaron Horne
So yeah, I remember that being really bad. Bruce Willis One that, that Russia did. And he was just like, Whatever sucks. Do you think so.
Patrick Berry
This is coming. So the celebrities we had to make more money with doing less work.
Speaker 4
Yeah.
Aaron Horne
Paul Walker, Ian Fast ten. I'm putting it out there. Putting it out there now. I bet they bring him back.
Patrick Berry
To see how they bring him back.
Aaron Horne
I bet they bring him back. Don't worry. He'll be there at I reckon they'll be time travel this time. I actually feel like they've gone to space. What's the next thing they do? They'll go back in.
Speaker 4
Time but they going.
Patrick Berry
To get pull back somehow.
Speaker 4
You, you know, they actually reference the fact that we never say never seem to die like Yeah, yeah. Just point it like this is just nuts.
Aaron Horne
I don't know, like it's called jumping the shark anymore. It's just luck. Anything can happen in the fast universe.
Speaker 4
Yeah, that's what I think. At least it's. It's okay for it to do is just like, look, how can we just keep pushing the boundaries knowing that this is just bonkers? And I think that's what works, is just that we're going to keep rolling with this is that obviously ten will probably be where it cuts off, I suppose, at this point.
Aaron Horne
But I believe they they say this is an important to the podcast, but I believe they say 11 is the end of it.
Speaker 4
Well, maybe, maybe 11 might be credible.
Aaron Horne
There could be down they go fast ten written. It probably is written by die anyway already. Well look, I love talking about this stuff. I could probably continue to do it for the rest of the day. If anyone wants to contact the property pod and discuss any of these tools with us, happy to do so.
Patrick Berry
Maybe you've got a tool you want us to prompt and use yell out.
Aaron Horne
Yeah, we'd love to do that too. Oh, we're going to get that social radio on that. Yeah, of course. Right. That's just prompted me. They got. Thank you anyhow. Yeah. Episode 151. Next one we might write the whole episode with I will say What?
Patrick Berry
Oh well that would be something.
Aaron Horne
Yeah. Shout out to all our listeners. Shout out to everybody out there in the real estate world and thank you for joining us along the ride.
Patrick Berry
Thanks, guys.
Aaron Horne
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Patrick Berry
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Speaker 4
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