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In Ask Ashley, Founder, Thoughtleader and award-winning media personality Ashley Russo sits down with leaders who bring purpose and humanity to business.
Each episode explores how people navigate uncertainty, lead with empathy, and create meaningful change in their organizations and lives. Listeners gain practical insights on resilience, leadership, and financially confident decision-making amid disruption.
This podcast is brought to you by Ask Ashley. If you’re interested in building a confident, purpose-driven wealth plan, reach out to Ashley at ashley.russo@nm.com.
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Ashley
Welcome to Ask Ashley, the podcast, where we shine a light on the unsung heroes of the workplace. I'm your host, Ashley Russo. Financial I board member, thought leader and wealth management advisor. Each week we sit down with inspiring leaders, exploring their journeys, motivations, and the real challenges they face, from job insecurity to the evolving role of AI in a world where many feel overlooked.
00:00:29:23 - 00:00:57:07
Ashley
These guests are building hope and connection for their colleagues. Join us as we uncover their stories and discover how they're making a difference. One conversation at a time. Hello everyone! Ashley Rousseau here with a very, very exciting guest. I'm going to let you introduce yourself to the world, and then we're going to dig into some fun questions. So please tell everyone about you.
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Ari
Sounds great. I'm Ari Gett. I'm the head of people ops over at mabl, which is a tech company. We do test automation for software companies all around the world. I am a mom of two. I, a lover of theater, I love wine. And, yeah, I I've had a fun career so far in health care tech and ad tech, and now I'm tech for tech, which has been an interesting journey for me.
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Ashley
Lots to get to dig in there. What's your favorite wine? By the way? Is it red? Is it white? Asking for a friend?
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Ari
Yeah, actually, I don't know. I mean, I've been really on rosé, and maybe that's a cheat, I don't know, but, it used to be Chardonnay, and now I'm tired of chardonnay, so I've actually been switching to Sauvignon blanc, and then I love, rosé. And it can be pretty much any rosé as long as it's dry.
00:01:56:08 - 00:02:07:03
Ashley
Yeah. Summer water. My favorite. Well, you walk us through your career path. And what led you to your current role? Sure.
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Ari
Yeah. I have an unconventional career path, which I think has been good for me, actually. I was an executive assistant for eight years, and it my last job as an executive assistant. I was sort of shifted into HR as a nature business partner. So as an I, I did a lot of, like newsletters that went out to the whole the whole HR team.
00:02:29:22 - 00:02:56:14
Ari
And I was really in tune with what was happening in each and was really excited by it and wanted to learn more. So I, I just started to pivot into sort of an HR business partnering role, and then I got this really lucky opportunity to kind of step in and and work with the tag team. So I supported the tag team, engineering and, you know, infrastructure as a service.
00:02:56:16 - 00:03:22:14
Ari
And yeah, I just, I loved HR and took it from there. My next job was at at Exxon. I was the manager of HR. So I really got to learn everything. So going from really HR, business partnering and very specific focus and then doing everything benefits comp, employee relations, all of it. And that's then just my journey from then on, from Ed, I moved on to mabl and it's been great.
00:03:22:16 - 00:03:37:00
Ashley
That's awesome. It sounds like a lot of of pivots there and learning more and more and engaging in deeper ways. I'm curious, what were some of the major turning points or experiences that have shaped that journey?
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Ari
Yeah. You know, it's hard. I, I think I went through a number of managers when I was at one of my companies, and I think that actually helped me a bit to kind of understand their different perspectives on the job and understand that even HR leaders, they're not perfect. And we're all just trying to figure it out.
00:04:02:20 - 00:04:28:20
Ari
It helped me to to step in and have my own thoughts and opinions on where we were heading. And I think that was the biggest thing that sort of propelled me forward. And to seize that opportunity to become a major business partner. Yeah. So I've actually I've stumbled I've like stumbled upward in some ways because there just has been a need at the company for someone to step in and take on the role, and I've always been really open to that.
00:04:28:22 - 00:04:48:08
Ari
I think, you know, these opportunities, they present themselves all the time, but you have to keep your keep an open mind. You know, can you do it and how much are you going to challenge yourself? When I took the job as, an HR manager. I thought I didn't have enough experience. And I was really nervous. But I was really, really excited, and I decided to bet on myself.
00:04:48:08 - 00:05:14:23
Ari
And I think that job was it was hard, but I learned so much, and I leaned in and I had a great manager who was not going to take imposter syndrome out its value. And, you know, let me let me learn and let me fail and and let me, yeah. Keep growing. So I honestly, I, I choose my companies now based on culture and based on the person I'm going to report to.
00:05:15:00 - 00:05:21:20
Ari
I think those two things, if you can nail those, you're in pretty good hands and you'll find your way with everything else.
00:05:21:22 - 00:05:38:20
Ashley
I look back, I love all of that, including betting on yourself. That's great. I'm curious to have that perspective of betting on yourself. How did your early life experiences and family background influence your approach? Your viewpoints?
00:05:38:22 - 00:06:08:07
Ari
Yeah. You know, I, I come from a single parent home. My dad passed away when I was in third grade. He had a brain cancer, brain cancer, brain tumor. So I, you know, grew up, with him mostly in the hospital. And my mother was everything for us. Actually, my brother one year gave my mother a, like, Father's Day gift because it felt like you had to be everything you know, and I don't know how she did it.
00:06:08:07 - 00:06:29:06
Ari
I think she wasn't in tech. She wasn't in this, like, high paying job. But she came from this space where she had to get her husband listed on a credit card for her to have a credit card. You know, and she didn't know how to handle finances. So I think I, I grew up a little bit fast because we leaned on each other a lot.
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Ari
And my mother was, you know, my best friend and the person I really leaned on growing up. And I think that sort of just shapes the way that I look at things. And how do we all kind of jump in and pitch in? How do we make sense of what we have and make the best of it?
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Ari
So I think, I don't know, she always, you know, parents, they know different things. They they push different things. And my mom is the type that was like, you can be anything you want as long as you work hard. So, you know, I wanted to go into theater, and she said, that's great. She wasn't thinking about my financial future again because she's not a finance person.
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Ari
You know? And I did do theater in college, but I think that has helped me so much because it allowed me to change my mind and change what I was doing constantly. I know I'm getting long winded, but I was in agricultural high school. I thought I was going to be a zoologist, and she thought that was great.
00:07:29:19 - 00:07:46:09
Ari
And then I went to theater in in high school and I thought, oh, I'm going to do theater. And she thought that was great. And I went to college for theater, and I went to got my masters in theater education. But all of this, I think, just connected me back to how much I love working with people.
00:07:46:11 - 00:08:13:22
Ari
And theater teaches you about humanity, and teaching teaches you so much about how people learn and react and where they're coming from and how to meet them, where they're at. And I think all of that, to me is so important. And I think I just, I just gravitate toward HR because it allows me to do so many of those little things and to really examine humanity and to help people in a place that they're at more than they're at home sometimes.
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Ari
So, yeah, I think that's that's how I ended up here.
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Ashley
Well, that is a beautiful journey, to say the least. I'm curious because you you mentioned finance a few times. What do you see between the connection of financial health and mental health? Where do you see that connection for employees? And, you know, what do you wish more organizations understood about that connection?
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Ari
Yes. I mean, I was actually thinking about this the other day. There is something I read about scarcity mindset and how it's sort of instead of making you save your money, it makes you spend it. It makes you think, like, I better get what I can get while I can get it. And I just think there's so many people living paycheck to paycheck.
00:09:01:20 - 00:09:21:00
Ari
So their job is not just a thing that they do or, you know, you talk about like, do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life, but it's really hard to feel that way when you're you're banking your next paycheck means you'll have food. You'll have shelter. And, you know, I think there's there's been struggles.
00:09:21:00 - 00:09:44:19
Ari
I think our generation, I'm pretty new in my generation. You know, we entered the workforce during, right after a recession or during a recession, and it's kind of been a wobbly road from there. So it's it's not been simple to buy a house. There's so many challenges for people of our our generation. And even coming up like Gen Z, they're are facing a different world.
00:09:44:19 - 00:10:03:18
Ari
And their relationship to money matters. And there's not a lot of teaching about it. They don't know how important saving is and how early you have to start. They don't know how to use their paycheck and get the most out of it. You know, and they're all on online all the time too. So thank you. Mental health.
00:10:03:18 - 00:10:24:15
Ari
We have like social media telling us exactly what we need to buy so that we can feel better about our lives, how we can look better, how we can, how these trendy clothes and all those things. So I think there's a lot of want and not a lot of teaching people how to, to use their money in the best way to set themselves up for success in the future.
00:10:24:20 - 00:10:43:22
Ari
And so, yeah, linking that to mental health, I just think people struggle because it feels like a never ending journey. Like how do you get ahead of it? How do you help yourself to feel actually secure with what you have? And if people aren't feeling secure, it's hard for them to show up in their best way.
00:10:43:24 - 00:11:12:18
Ashley
I think people will replay that over and over again. One to feel normal, right? I think that was really interesting. The scarcity feeling, that's an incredible call out. And then linking it to security. That's fascinating. I love that. I be curious, your opinion in, in this environment where obviously we've, we've, we've heard in this climate that there's a lot of pushback for diversity and inclusion.
00:11:12:20 - 00:11:25:06
Ashley
There's a lot of scale back from companies. I'm curious how you've navigated this. And if there's any benefits that you've seen from, from leaning in or however it's been handled internally?
00:11:25:08 - 00:11:50:19
Ari
Yeah. It's hard for me to talk about without talking about our values over at Maple, because I think it would be out of line with our values to stop working on Dei. So our our values are authenticity, number one. Support, drive and insight. So you can't really be authentic if you're not creating a culture of inclusion.
00:11:50:24 - 00:12:17:01
Ari
So how do you how do you do that and how do you support people if you're not including who they are as people? So there's really no decoupling those things. I think the move away from Dei is heartbreaking. I do, I think the words and the letters scare people, and if we need to use different words or letters, I think that's okay because you want more people to join the journey and they're all at different places in the journey.
00:12:17:01 - 00:12:33:05
Ari
And we want Dei to be welcoming because isn't that the point? You know, inclusion is about being welcoming and that includes the people who are like a little scared of Dei or don't really understand it, and they don't want to step in it. They don't want to get it wrong. So how do we include them and make it safe for them?
00:12:33:10 - 00:12:51:09
Ari
But I don't think the answer is getting rid of it. I think the answer is trying to meet people where they're at, trying to understand where they're coming from and what scares them about it, and then letting them mess up to let people mess up. It's okay. If we don't mess up, we can't get better, you know?
00:12:51:11 - 00:12:52:17
Ashley
Oh it's not I missed.
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Ari
A part of your question I think. Yeah.
00:12:56:17 - 00:13:30:07
Ashley
No that's, that's, that's really, that's a huge call out because you know especially you mentioned you know seeing earlier you mentioned seeing online, you know things and using that as our guidance and that affecting mental health, which leads to potentially a perfectionism mentality. And it's about being human. It's about being real. I'm curious, was there a specific moment where the light bulb went off and you realize the importance of building, you know, workplace policies around inclusion, rather than it just being a compliance exercise?
00:13:30:09 - 00:13:32:05
Ashley
Yeah. I don't.
00:13:32:05 - 00:13:52:06
Ari
Know if a light bulb, let me think. You know, at my last company, one of the things I love about HR is if you do it well, people trust you and they share themselves with you, and so you learn from them. Because, you know, I have my lived experience and you have yours. And it's hard to know things outside of that.
00:13:52:08 - 00:14:22:16
Ari
And my last company, we had a great erg, LGBTQ erg and they would point things out in our policies that just didn't feel fair or even in, you know, medical insurance where things would be covered or not covered. And it was a world that I've never had to deal with before. But I will take those lessons with me everywhere I go, because it is people just trying to have a family and trying to raise a happy child, and they can't.
00:14:22:18 - 00:14:49:15
Ari
They can't approach it the same way and they don't have resources. You know, like IVF cost $25,000 every single time you do it, and there's no guarantee it's going to work those things. I think if you can connect a little bit deeper to those things and maybe it's something different for other people. But as someone who has a child and I have two kids and they mean everything to me, it's hard for me to imagine my life without them.
00:14:49:15 - 00:15:09:10
Ari
And the struggle that people have to go through just to have a family. So there's moments like that in my career that I think about, how do we just make it easier for people to live good lives? You know, isn't that all we're trying to do? We're just trying to live a life that we feel proud of, and we feel happy in day to day.
00:15:09:12 - 00:15:31:06
Ari
And I think if there's little things that we can do on the people up side to make your life a little bit easier, it's not that hard for us either. You know, I add, mabl, I did introduce, a longer parental leave. And I changed the word from primary caregiver and some some old fashioned words there because who is the primary caregiver?
00:15:31:06 - 00:15:51:10
Ari
I think many of us, if we hear that word, we might think mom, which is not a great connotation. Like, how do we shift that? So, we now have parental leave. We extended it so everyone has the same length of parental leave, regardless of how your child comes into your life. I think those things are very, very meaningful.
00:15:51:12 - 00:16:11:13
Ari
And, the first time I ever wrote a parental leave policy was at my last company. We were rewriting our entire handbook, and I didn't think I could get excited about writing a handbook. And I was. And I was actually, it was daunting. I did not want to do all the compliance work. I did not want to, like, work with the legal department, read through all the things I had to read through.
00:16:11:19 - 00:16:29:09
Ari
And then I came to the parental leave policy, and I was thinking about all the people that talked to me and all the things that they needed and where they didn't feel supported. And it was I remember staying up till I think midnight one night, just researching how many different ways people were doing parental leave and how we could make it better.
00:16:29:09 - 00:16:37:14
Ari
And I it was the first time I think, I felt truly empowered that I could make people's lives better through a policy.
00:16:37:16 - 00:17:08:02
Ashley
Wow. Wow. That's that's incredible. And it it brings me to the current state of the world and the fear that, you know, we're all seeing, hearing, feeling with this rapidly changing tech landscape when it comes to AI. I'm curious, in this AI revolution, how do you help your team, your employees, overcome the fear that they likely have around the uncertainty of work?
00:17:08:04 - 00:17:31:08
Ari
Yes, yes, it's been a really interesting one. And we are an AI company and we are an agent company, so we're creating things that are going to work on their own like they're a team member. But even with that, you know, we find it it cheats and it it's it's false sometimes. I had a really funny one, actually.
00:17:31:08 - 00:17:53:02
Ari
I, I created a recruiting agent to help me scan through some resumes and pull out some really important keywords. And can you rank these candidates? Here's 150 candidates in an Excel sheet. Rank one through five. And it came out with five names for me. And when I went back to look at their resumes and go a little bit deeper, I could not find their names.
00:17:53:04 - 00:18:17:16
Ari
And I said, hey, where'd you get these names? And it said, you uploaded the wrong spreadsheet. So I just did my best. So it it made the names up. It made the names up entirely. And so these are the moments where, you know, an AI's going to get smarter, maybe later, maybe a year from now. It doesn't make the name up.
00:18:17:16 - 00:18:44:15
Ari
It just says to me, hey, you uploaded the wrong spreadsheet. That would be great. But it does not make it. It can't work on its own. It needs people to power it. We are not computers. We see what's happening outside of just the data. One of the things I read maybe a year ago that really inspired me because again, we have that value of insight is this idea of like being data informed instead of data driven.
00:18:44:19 - 00:19:03:06
Ari
Data driven gives you this idea that you have to look at the data and use it at all costs. And the data drives everything you do. But data informed is this idea that, like the data tells me one thing, but I also pick my head up and I know the world that I live in and the people that I work with and how it's going to impact them.
00:19:03:11 - 00:19:25:09
Ari
And the data doesn't know that. And I can infer a lot of things from data, but what do I know around it? How can I build that bigger story? And I think people are always going to be needed to build that bigger story. I will say it's impacting us. We're using Claude and we're coding much faster. And what I saw was people starting to work late at night.
00:19:25:11 - 00:19:50:04
Ari
And I as I dug into that, it was fascinating because some of it was, well, Claude's doing some of the work, but I need to check on Claude when Claude's done. So sometimes I check after work and then I start a new thing, but then I'm like, oh, I should check on the new thing. And then some people said, I just want to prove, because Claude's doing so much work and moving so fast, but I don't want people to feel like I'm less valuable and not my heart.
00:19:50:06 - 00:20:14:21
Ari
Yes. So for those folks, I said, you do not need to work late to be valuable. We've never that's never, ever been our mindset. Working late doesn't make you more effective, I said. Using tools effectively makes you incredibly valuable. So if you're using Claude and that's making you move faster and your quality is still high, that's what makes you valuable.
00:20:14:21 - 00:20:32:01
Ari
And we can't do it without you. Who else is going to make this? Make the coding start and check on it and make sure it's right and then move to the next step. But it's not you know, again, it it just can't be done without human touch. And I think we've really been trying to talk through that with our employees.
00:20:32:01 - 00:20:50:05
Ari
And we've seen a little bit of a change over the past couple of weeks with some people taking breaks. You know, I was I think I said this to you after this call, but, how do we adapt? Because I think we're just going to see this move faster and faster. It's going to learn faster and move.
00:20:50:05 - 00:21:09:10
Ari
And, it's going to get smarter, and that's great. But that doesn't mean we have to let it control us. Sorry if I'm going long. I have this. Great. I went to a conference, and there was this lovely, I think it's called superhuman. I want to make sure I'm crediting them correctly, but they were great.
00:21:09:12 - 00:21:32:10
Ari
They were talking about the iPhone. Something simple. People using their iPhone to take notes, having it out at all times, and how it actually impacts your productivity. They were talking about notifications on your phone and how it always. It's designed to pull you back. And they said, okay, do you want your phone to control you? Like is your phone going to tell you, look at me right now.
00:21:32:10 - 00:21:57:01
Ari
I have a notification, or are you in control of your phone? And I've been trying to apply that when I'm thinking about AI. So it's moving fast. That's great. It's going to keep moving fast. But is that controlling us or are we using this tool and controlling the tool? And how can we start to take control of these changes that are that are happening?
00:21:57:03 - 00:22:15:23
Ashley
That is fascinating. And the best tangent ever, by the way. Three things I think that will give people just the, the calm rate that that in the partnership. I, I was going to ask you this question. I wanted your perspective on it, but I think you answered it. I want to make sure I have this right.
00:22:16:04 - 00:22:39:19
Ashley
So what I wanted to dig into is what unique human skills do you think will be important to because of AI and innovation? But it sounds like it's really the understanding of partnership versus control, and it's controlling the experience. Rather, letting the experience control you is is that fair to say, or would you expand on that?
00:22:39:21 - 00:23:01:09
Ari
I think it's fair to say, I think, you know, fast doesn't equal better. I think that's something we have to keep in mind. You know, thinking about even thinking fast and slow. Everyone knows that book. There's a reason that we need both of those categories thinking fast or moving fast. It's great. We should have a bias to action.
00:23:01:10 - 00:23:21:07
Ari
Companies need to stay on top of things and move quickly. But if we don't stop and think and make sure we're heading in the right direction, there's so many mistakes that we could be making and we don't know if it's all for nothing, we could actually moving faster could actually hurt us more. We could move beyond where we need to be and be far down the wrong road.
00:23:21:12 - 00:23:32:06
Ari
And humans are the people who are going to have that foresight. Understand the strategy. AI is a tool. It is not a human replacement. Yeah.
00:23:32:08 - 00:23:56:23
Ashley
That's I hope that people take their glass of rosé and think about that. Really dig that in their brains of that fast and slow. That's beautiful, brilliant. And such an important call out for right now. I'd be curious, as someone who has such a beautiful blend of awareness, empathy, the world around them, technology, it's an incredible blend that you have.
00:23:57:00 - 00:24:06:08
Ashley
What are some of your personal or professional influences? How have they helped shape your outlook?
00:24:06:10 - 00:24:31:03
Ari
Oh, yeah. I, you know, I, I take a little bit from everywhere. Like Julia Louis-Dreyfus. I like her, wiser than Me podcast. I swear, every time I listen to it, I learn so much. There's always, like, a little statement from someone that I'm like, oh, that's just a beautiful way to view the world or a beautiful way to move through life.
00:24:31:05 - 00:24:54:19
Ari
So I don't I can tell you, for instance, my I had a manager for a very short time. She was wonderful. I can I name her? Yeah. I guess it doesn't matter. I have Linda Cataldo. Oh, she's wonderful. I have her for such a short time, I think she would be shocked to be called out. But even her, there's something that she taught us that I carry with me.
00:24:54:21 - 00:25:12:05
Ari
She ran an offsite with our team, and she started it by saying, we want to be honest with each other and transparent. We are going to use the fish on the table. So if there is a fish under the table, you don't want to leave it there because then it will. It'll stink. You don't want it to stink.
00:25:12:09 - 00:25:41:24
Ari
So if you have something that you want to say, that's hard to say. We're going to put a fish on the table so it doesn't stink and we're going to be able to talk about it. So I use that to this day. Where I will, I'll say, is there a fish that we need to put on the table or I use that with the executive team that I have that I'm in right now, as a way for us to gently say, ooh, this is something that might be hard and maybe we'll debate and maybe it hurts feelings or maybe whatever, but I'm letting you know that.
00:25:42:01 - 00:26:04:14
Ari
That I know that you know, I'm letting you know when I'm opening this conversation in a way that's gentle. Yeah. So I don't I think that honestly, I just learn from, the people that I work with really, really inspire me. And the way that they operate. And then I, I do sort of keep up with different podcasts and things that, just kind of excite me.
00:26:04:16 - 00:26:31:05
Ari
Sean Ellis, right now we're trying to bring him in for an offsite. He is talking about radical adaptability. And what I love is to me, I keep saying this to my employees, it's like how waterfall is too agile, you know, waterfall. It follows this process. To me. It's like change management is to radical adaptability. So if you have change management, you're kind of going through that waterfall process.
00:26:31:05 - 00:26:51:09
Ari
You're building this vision of what is across that burning bridge or however you want to put it, and you're trying to bring people along with you. But now we're moving so fast that it's hard to share. Like, what is that vision? How do we get there from asking you to pivot all the time? And with radical adaptability, it's much more about how do I choose the changes?
00:26:51:09 - 00:27:12:01
Ari
Because I know we need to change, and maybe it helps if I'm the one saying, yeah, I get I'm bored in that we need to change. I'm going to choose to change, and I'm not going to be too precious about the work that I'm doing today. So that also has been really inspiring to me. I think we all, in this fast paced world now could use a little more radical adaptability.
00:27:12:03 - 00:27:33:13
Ashley
Yeah, I love that. I love that call out, what habits, routines, or self reflections help you stay grounded and connected to your purpose? Yeah.
00:27:33:15 - 00:27:56:08
Ari
I had a leader, a while back that said, you are also an employee. That helps me a lot. I think, it's easy sometimes when you start to grow in your career to forget what it's like to be an employee or to connect with other employees. So I like to remind myself and others I'm also an employee.
00:27:56:08 - 00:28:24:08
Ari
We're going through this together. That helps me definitely to stay grounded. Also working out, I have to work out. I, it helps me, clears my mind. Yeah, and I, I honestly, I do I take breaks, too. Even, like, taking an audiobook break, I think I love to escape in a book. It helps me kind of clear my mind a little bit and come back.
00:28:24:10 - 00:28:39:21
Ari
One of the things that I've learned as I grow is not to, kind of jump on things, is it? If it is making my gut, like, tingle a little bit like, oh, this is really getting under my skin, it's better for me to sit on it for a little bit because I'm going to answer it better later.
00:28:39:23 - 00:28:45:13
Ari
So, those are some of the things that I, I really think about when I'm trying to address problems. Yeah.
00:28:45:15 - 00:28:52:06
Ashley
Yeah. It's beautiful. That's beautiful. What's your what's your go to audiobook right now?
00:28:52:08 - 00:29:08:24
Ari
Oof, I I've finished so many audiobooks right now. I'm reading, Theo of Golden. But I just I don't even know. I think I finished like three over the past week. I just, I have, I've been audiobook instead of podcasting. Yeah. That's great.
00:29:09:03 - 00:29:22:09
Ashley
On and off. That's a good that's good routine. My final question. The question I always like to end with is knowing everything that, you know. Now, what would you say to your younger self?
00:29:22:11 - 00:29:50:08
Ari
I think I would say, don't rush it. You'll get there. I think when we're, we're young and, really ambitious, we compare ourselves to others more. We try to get to where they're at more, sometimes maybe we feel less than because of where other people are at. And I do think, it's not a competition. There's room for all of us.
00:29:50:10 - 00:29:56:10
Ari
I think that's a really important thing that my younger self needed to hear. Yeah.
00:29:56:12 - 00:30:17:23
Ashley
You look back. Well, you are inspiring and wonderful and I have loved my time with you. And I know everyone listening will have so many takeaways. They're going to put this on the table. They're going to have their saying go fast and slow. And there's so many beautiful takeaways here. So thank you so very much for your time.
00:30:18:00 - 00:30:19:24
Ari
Thank you Ashley. And this has been so fun.