Problem Corner

This episode of Problem Corner takes a deep dive into Alaska’s fishing future as callers debate commercial trawling, bycatch, declining fish populations, and the sustainability of harvesting wild seafood on a global scale. The conversation also touches on personal fishing limits, king crab, hatcheries, and what these issues could mean for future generations. Plus, listeners call in with items for sale, requests for help, birthday shout-outs, and community recognition.

What is Problem Corner?

Problem Corner is an iconic radio show that has become a vibrant community hub. Callers engage in a wide array of discussions, ranging from local political debates to community commentary and casual advertisements for listeners looking to buy, sell, or trade personal items.
The show's rich history is marked by its association with several prominent local figures. Notably, Dennis Egan, a former mayor of Juneau, was a key personality in shaping the show's direction in the 1980s.
As a testament to its enduring relevance and appeal, "Problem Corner" has etched its name in the annals of Alaskan broadcasting history. It's not just a radio show but a cultural landmark, celebrated for being the longest-running radio show in Alaska.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Problem Corner, Alaska's longest running radio show. Connect and discuss the topics important to Juneau and all of Southeast Alaska. Call Call (907) 586-1800, and subscribe to the podcast at kinyradio.com. Powered by Princess Cruise Lines, Alaska Laundry and Dry Cleaning, Juneau Powersports, and Dawson Construction.

Speaker 2:

KINY Juno, eight hundred and ninety four point nine FM. It is Problem Corner on your Wednesday. I'm Justin Miller filling in for Wade Bryson today. Hope we're having a good Wednesday so far. Definitely was a little bummed with the wetness that was going on this week, but after the beautiful sunny week we had last week, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Maybe we we needed a little sun break, but I just don't think we had enough summer. What was some of your favorite summer activities that you've were able to get to do last week that you haven't been able to do in a while? Love to hear about it. You could shoot a text, call me, (907) 586-1800, or you could shoot me an email at air@kinyradio.com. That's air@kinyradio.com.

Speaker 2:

And I'm glad that everything went well with the Glacier Outer Flood. I was hosting last Friday and just kinda throwing out there for folks that might need assistance or help or cleanup. I know a lot of homes definitely got real, real lucky. My grandmother who lives on View Drive actually got super lucky this year. Usually, water gets into her auxiliary garage shop this year completely dry.

Speaker 2:

So the water didn't even get high up enough on her property to get moisture. So it was very nice, and I'm glad this year was pretty effective as far as water mitigation. If you have anything you wanna say, sell or get off your chest. Hopefully, y'all went out and voted yesterday, and it's very important that we all get in there and vote and have our voice and our choice to vote for who our next governor and all of our other state representatives are gonna be. And, yeah, hopefully you got out there yesterday and got that done.

Speaker 2:

If not, man, I'm sorry to say. It's it's tough. It's tough out there. Looking at some emails. Let's see if we got anything from yesterday.

Speaker 2:

Nothing new from yesterday. But looking at the event ahead of us, we got the duck derby going on this weekend, so definitely don't wanna miss out on that. Hopefully, you've gone to all of the different pop up locations with Free The The Duck and the Glacier Valley Rotary Club and got yourself a duck. There's a few more options, though. If you wanna get in on that prize package, you could swing on over to the Nugget Mall today right by the flying squirrel there from four to six.

Speaker 2:

And then tomorrow or, yeah, tomorrow, they'll be at both IGA locations. So they'll be at Foodland from noon to one and four to six, and then they'll be at Super Bear from four to six tomorrow. So either IGA locations tomorrow from four to six, or if you wanna get it done early, Foodland from noon to one. But, yeah, I definitely don't wanna miss out on the duck derby going on this Saturday. I believe it's kicking things off for around eleven, so make sure you pop over there.

Speaker 2:

Plenty of time to see if your duck is gonna be the lucky winner. Also, what we got going on? Oh, yes. The Juno Tattoo Expo that is happening. This is the fourth annual tattoo expo, which has been a pretty good success here in the community.

Speaker 2:

Of course, it's a Costa event, so make sure you pop on over. And whether you want a day pass or the full three day weekend pass, you could get that as well. But you must be, of course, 18 or over. And then if you're a youth going along with your family, you obviously must stay close to your parent or guardian or adult that you're with during an expo. That's all going on at the Elizabeth Pratchovich Hall this Friday through the weekend.

Speaker 2:

Alright. No new phone calls yet. Whatever you guys wanna say, I love to chat with you on this Wednesday. If you have something that you wanna throw out there, items for sale, or anything along those lines, love to chat with you guys. And we got oh, this looks really cool.

Speaker 2:

Have you ever wanted to do a SpongeBob musical, like be in a musical? About our favorite yellow sponge from Bikini Bottom. Well, they're gonna be doing open casting calls for this by Latitude fifty eight at JDHS as this happened in Wednesday, August 22 or twenty sixth through the thirtieth. So if you need more information, you can register online. I'm sure there might be a link to theater by Latitude fifty eight.

Speaker 2:

The link that I got in front of me is one of those bit.ly ones. So that one's always hard to remember, But definitely don't miss out five yeah. For five days. So Wednesday, there will be an orientation and all that. And then choir, there will be stuff in the choir room, dance studio, arts gym, and then callbacks as needed on day five.

Speaker 2:

Then the performance is gonna be happening in November. So if you wanna do a musical, I bill all ages are welcome, 12 and up. So all skill lovers are also welcome. So if you're joining wanting to do that, again, reach out to theater at Latitude fifty eight, and they could hook you up about being in a SpongeBob musical. How cool is that?

Speaker 2:

I know it's very rare that we get kind of those big mainstream kind of performances or kind of productions in Juno. So I I feel like a lot of people have fun with that one. And let's see. Ah, yes. I've totally forgot about this one.

Speaker 2:

If you know the artist Cousin Curtis, he was a Juno local here for a while. He worked I believe he was a teacher at Thunder Mountain High School for a while. A lot of kids a lot of my classmates that I grew up with had him as a teacher, but he's been on the road. He's been a traveling musician for some time now. He is also with Harrison B, who's made plenty of performances here in Juneau.

Speaker 2:

He used to be just a solo act who also was backed up by another Juneauite, Cole Paramore, played drums for with him, and then Gerard Rosales, who played bass with him. So, yeah, two Juno locals backed up Harrison B. Cousin Curtis used to live here in Juno. So definitely not wanna miss out on this one. This is all happening tonight, actually.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. That's crazy. Tonight at eight to eleven, it is a CASA event, so probably tickets at the door or you could swing on over to the Crystal Saloon's website for more information on that. But, yeah, if you've not seen Cousin Curtis perform or even Harrison B perform, they got some style. They know how to warm up the crowd, get everyone moving.

Speaker 2:

They got some great energy, and it's very unique. It's very cool stuff. You don't wanna miss it. And what else we got? We got an email.

Speaker 2:

Let's check this out. Alright. Let's see. Someone called last week about standing water on the sidewalk and told Nano they walked towards the Thane Road on the sidewalk behind Taku Smokeries. There's a pool leaking from their roof that is rather slippery.

Speaker 2:

Is this an OSHA issue or a CBJ issue that could be addressed? I appreciate the email. I might have dig into that a little bit during our commercial break. But from what you're saying, it sounds like might be a CBJ issue if it's on or DOT if it's got anything to do with the sidewalk. So, yeah, unless it's an actual part that I guess behind Taco Smokery's, it might be on the business to make that fix if it's on their property or CBJ to address that.

Speaker 2:

But that's not my full answer. That's my assumption. So hopefully, if someone's got the correct answer who would address that, then feel free to give me a call and give me the correct answer. We have a few more minutes before we had to take our first commercial break in about four minutes. So if you guys have anything you wanna throw out there on the program, appreciate the email.

Speaker 2:

And let's see. Yes. I was throwing this one out last week as well. This is the mini fig paint and sip, which is being brought to you by Roodle Valley Games. So this is like the figurines for, like, Warhammer and anything like that if you're into painting your minifigs or wanna get into the game.

Speaker 2:

But obviously, you either have to buy prepainted ones, which kinda could be expensive from what I know, or you just buy them pre primed or and then that way you could just get right into painting rather than having to do all that. So that's all going on tomorrow at the downstairs Devil's Club, 05:30, 07:30, totally free. So if you're interested on that, just bring your figurines and some supplies. They you could also borrow some if you don't have everything. Devil'sclubbrewing.com/events if you need more information on that one.

Speaker 2:

Also, tomorrow is the first day of school for the twenty sixth, twenty seventh school year. If you got a new incoming freshman, new middle schooler, and wanna give them a little radio shout out, would love to do that as well for all the first day of school kids out there. And, obviously, some kids will be their last day last year in, like, elementary school or middle school, or they're gonna be senior this year, and you just wanna give them a big congratulations of getting them all prepped for the new school year and wrapping it up strong. It's crazy. This summer just kinda flew by.

Speaker 2:

It seemed like just yesterday we were getting out of school and now we're back into school and yeah. So hopefully it's a good school year. Everyone's gonna work hard, make sure everyone stays on top of their schoolwork. Not everyone has to have a plan in place. I feel like that's really mixed up a lot of times about jumping right into college.

Speaker 2:

Like, obviously, college education is great, and it could definitely propel you into a workforce that you are very dedicated in, but also it's not a race. Take your time. Obviously, if you have a path goal in mind, keep with it. Keep pushing for that goal. If you're kinda iffy there, just all I have to say is learn, learn, learn, learn as much as you can, whether it be in a skill or trade that you never really thought about before.

Speaker 2:

Like, me, for example, I thought I was gonna be some professional musician. Obviously, I do still play music here in town, but I'm not a touring musician. I'm not in a big band or anything. But then I shifted gears. I don't wanna be a professional musician.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna do audio business. So, so many different pathways out there. So always try to elevate and inspire your young one into finding a goal path that speaks true to them. Alright, folks. And the phone lines were open.

Speaker 2:

Feel free to give me a call, but real quick, I'm gonna take my first commercial break. I'll be right back with more Problem Corner here on KINY.

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You're listening to Problem Corner on KINY, bringing neighbors together for generations. From the days of Dennis Egan to today, we're proud to continue the tradition of lively debates, community insights, and local connections here on KINY.

Speaker 2:

And welcome back to the program, Problem Corner here on your Wednesday. I'm Justin Miller filling in for Wade Bryson. Hope you're having a good day so far. I did see we almost got a call. Oh, there they are.

Speaker 2:

Let's go right to it. Hi. Welcome to Problem Corner. You're live and on the air.

Speaker 8:

Hi. Good morning.

Speaker 2:

Good morning.

Speaker 8:

I am in yeah. Good morning from Haines, Alaska. Awesome. Everybody's doing well all over the place that can hear me and you.

Speaker 2:

I hear you loud and clear. What you got?

Speaker 8:

I'm looking for some red ochre powder pigment for painting Tlingit designs and maybe an acrylic mat to mix it with. So you kinda mix the two together for painting on wood or whatever you want for the red design and or the red in the clinket designs. Also, I'm also looking for financial assistance for my language program for revitalizing and saving the the Tlingit language. And I am looking for some grill maintenance stuff like a brush, a scraper. I'm also wanting a compression tester, you know, an engine compression tester, a rear bike mount for bicycling your stuff around, like groceries, a free or cheap crab pot puller, headphones for online classes.

Speaker 8:

I have some Suzuki stainless steel propellers, 20 inches, two of them. Those are right hand powered and free blade, and one of them is left I believe it's left hand, and it's 19 inches. And those are for, like, 200 plus horsepower. They're stainless steel.

Speaker 2:

And those are Suzukis. Right?

Speaker 8:

Sure. And canoe paddles. And my phone number is (907) 321-2853.

Speaker 2:

2853. Alright. I tried to write all those list all those items down, but sounding like you're in look you're in search for that red oak outer pane. Is that what you called it?

Speaker 8:

Red ochre. It's Ochre. It's like it's like yeah. It comes it's like iron oxide, the rust.

Speaker 2:

Gotcha.

Speaker 8:

A powder. Powder of iron oxide pigment.

Speaker 2:

And then you're looking for a financial assistant to bring up bringing back Tlingit language?

Speaker 8:

Yes. I have a a program that I'm bringing to light that I was working with Marie Olsen and a few other people on, and I'm I'm just about ready to to bring our our project to life and and hopefully, it works and becomes a really fruitful, beneficial program, not only for for native people, but also for everyone.

Speaker 2:

That's awesome. Well, I commend you for making the effort and bringing the Tlingit language back into our communities. And, yeah, I really hope the best on that venture. And I got your phone number, and I'll echo your items that you're trying to get and in search of a few more times throughout the program.

Speaker 9:

Of

Speaker 2:

course. You have a good one. Appreciate your call, and have a good rest of your Wednesday.

Speaker 8:

You too. Bye bye.

Speaker 2:

Alrighty. Bye bye. Alright. Lots of great items that that gentleman had and is in search for. So if you're willing to help him, again, 321-2853.

Speaker 2:

And I do have another call. Hi. Welcome to Problem Corner. You're live and on the air.

Speaker 10:

Hi. Good morning.

Speaker 2:

Good morning. How are you today?

Speaker 10:

Not too bad. I was calling today because I wanted to thank a few people for my birthday wishes and stuff yesterday. Miss Valerie Ringel, I really wanted to thank her. She took me out for breakfast yesterday at Sandpiper, which Awesome. Awesome.

Speaker 10:

And my sister Virginia, John Daniels. We got together at Bullwinkle's, Melody, Vonda, John John. My friend Phyllis and Malcolm, they made my pineapple upside down cake. And I just wanted to say thank you everybody for the birthday wishes yesterday.

Speaker 2:

That's awesome. Well, happy belated birthday for me here at Problem Corner. I'm sure Lance shot you a happy birthday yesterday as well, but another big happy birthday. And it sounds like you have a lot of love in your life that people took you out yesterday.

Speaker 10:

Yeah. Really feeling it today. Was kinda just going through some things, but I'm really feeling grateful

Speaker 2:

to Oh, good. Sounds like you have a great support system behind you. Uh-huh.

Speaker 10:

Thank you. Thank you so

Speaker 11:

much.

Speaker 2:

Of course. You have a good rest of your day, and, happy belated birthday.

Speaker 10:

Oh, thank you. You too.

Speaker 2:

Thank Enjoy your day. That's awesome. It's always cool when you have a good family or friend support set that's willing to take you out and make you feel special on a special day. So big happy birthday thanks to everyone that made her birthday extra great yesterday. And let's see if we got any new emails.

Speaker 2:

No new emails, but you could always shoot me an email at air@kinyradio.com, or you could go through our website, kinradio.com. And you could always text us, (907) 586-1800. And I do have another call. Hi. Welcome to Problem Corner.

Speaker 2:

You're live and on the air. Yeah.

Speaker 12:

I really see right now.

Speaker 13:

Problem Corner?

Speaker 2:

Yes. You are live and on the air.

Speaker 13:

Yeah. I got bad news here. I mean, coming from me. I'm an elder in state of Alaska. Right?

Speaker 13:

Mhmm. Yeah. I'm in my eighties. This is for the fishing game. State Did that get turned off?

Speaker 2:

No. You're there. I just I'm just kinda fighting my echo. It sounds like you're playing me off the stream, so you kinda got a feedback going on.

Speaker 13:

Okay. The water is from the state of Alaska. Fishing fishing game needs to shut that down to the big trawlers.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's been a huge huge state. Yeah.

Speaker 9:

Put them in I'm tired of to fish.

Speaker 12:

Thank you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. That's a I know it's a tough situation that we've all been fighting, but I appreciate you throwing that out there and sharing your voice on that same matter. And I'm I'm dealing with a little bit of feedback right there. So quick make sure you are turning down your radio or whatever streaming platform you're using when you call in just so we're not fighting over the airways. But yes, that is a huge issue and hopefully you guys got out there and vote yesterday on your potential governor that might be making those changes on watching bycatches and making sure our fish life in Alaska is bountiful for many years to come.

Speaker 2:

Now I do have more calls. Let's go right to it. Oh, I lost you. Go go to the next one. Oh, lost that one.

Speaker 2:

Sorry about that. I was flashing lights. Give me a callback. I'll get you right on the program. Alright.

Speaker 2:

I have a couple more minutes before I have to take another commercial break. We'll get one more call in. Hi. Welcome to Problem Corner. You're live and on the air.

Speaker 9:

Yeah. Problem Corner. I'm just wondering if in June or anywhere anybody would be willing to look at some burial rare coin. A lot of Lincoln we have come even steel like, a week back. Just wondering what's the worst if anybody wants to call 713-5568.

Speaker 2:

713-5568. Bunch of rare coins. Our good friend, Abdulah, sounded like Charles. I called in with his rare coins there. So 713-5568.

Speaker 2:

If you know anything about coins or know the right person to get them in contact with, I'm sure he'll greatly appreciate it. Yeah. That's that's one thing. Collectors are disappearing. So if you're a fellow collector, definitely reach out to him.

Speaker 2:

I do have one more call. I'll jump right to it. Hi. Welcome to Problem Corner. You're live and on the air.

Speaker 9:

Good morning. I just wanna give a good shout out. Our state employees don't get too much credit for it, but I wanna I wanna commend the the the folks that work for the state over the state, department of transportation, structure Station 5, Station 2. And some of the rare things like they did yesterday and a couple days before that, they they helped elders out. They helped people fill up the paperwork.

Speaker 9:

The lady in session five was outstanding. The man in number two, he always helps everybody. And they should get a little more credit because they really do a fine job out there at DOT. And I I just had to say this because they really help people out. They were really helpful when we went out there.

Speaker 9:

And I wanna give a hell of a shout out to all them wonderful people out there.

Speaker 2:

Awesome. Well

Speaker 9:

That's all I needed to hear.

Speaker 12:

Well, I

Speaker 2:

hope someone from DOT is listening to yours. Big thanks to them. And, yeah, definitely, I'm glad that you recognize our state employees like that. And, yeah, I'm sure make you're making someone's day by saying that. So appreciate the call.

Speaker 2:

Yep. Yes. It's always nice to shout out our fellow workers here in Juneau and across Southeast Alaska and across Alaska in general. So if you ever have a nice interaction with a cashier, a worker, anyone, it it could be anyone, you're more than welcome to call and give them a big thanks and shout out here on the program. Alrighty, folks.

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Speaker 1:

You're listening to Problem Corner on KINY, bringing neighbors together for generations. From the days of Dennis Egan to today, we're proud to continue the tradition of lively debates, community insights, and local connections here on KINY.

Speaker 2:

And welcome back to the program here on KINY. It's Problem Corner for you here Wednesday. I'm Justin Miller filling in for Wade Bryson on this day, and we've had a few minute calls, some items, but we do have another call. We'll jump right to it. Hi.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to Problem Corner. You're live and on the air.

Speaker 9:

Yeah. I was just listening to your program and heard that they literally call in about the trawlers in The Gulf.

Speaker 11:

Mhmm.

Speaker 9:

You know, you guys had a derby, how small your king salmon were.

Speaker 2:

They were definitely pretty small. Of our salmon. Yeah. That's a I know it's a huge issue.

Speaker 9:

To get big. And before, I used to listen to that derby from I you used to catch fifty, sixty pound kings in the derby. No. These trollers are in The Gulf. It's they're killing off our fish, killing off our killer whales.

Speaker 9:

A lot of them have been dead on. Just a few years ago, they caught a whole pod of killer whales and killed them, killed them off. That's not right, you know, And Canada keeps saying we're catching their fish. They need to step forward and help out Alaska to stop their trawlers and move them out. Norway did it, and I don't know how they did it.

Speaker 9:

They got rid of those trawlers that said their fisheries came back. Now I don't see why they're we can't do it in Alaska. And maybe with Canada's help, we'll be able to move them out and shut them down. They just go fish for a scrap fish and sell that, and we get killing off all our king salmon, coho, sockeye, dog salmon. Our streams are getting small.

Speaker 9:

We need to do something about it, the state of Alaska.

Speaker 2:

I know. And we're

Speaker 9:

That's why I would tell them well, that's why I would tell them to vote Democrat so we can get that done. You know? It's it's not right what's going on.

Speaker 2:

It's not. And it's it's detrimental for the future of our state as well in a lot of communities that do rely on subsistence living, especially up north in some of our outlying communities here in Southeast. It's That

Speaker 9:

that hatchery, this ain't worth it. You know? The our elders put some in the smokehouse before and they they felt like this that whole thing was hanging there with the skins. Mhmm. You know?

Speaker 9:

That's not right, what that hatchery for saying, good for nothing, you know?

Speaker 2:

So are you saying no more hatcheries or we need more hatcheries?

Speaker 9:

I I don't like that hatchery. They're not good for our smokehouse. That meat falls off the skin.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 9:

You try to have somebody do that, put hatchery fish in their smokehouse, they'll find out, go back there the next day, just the strings will be hanging.

Speaker 2:

Oh, wow. I've never heard of that, or I've never actually seen that myself personally, but I don't smoke a lot of salmon, personally.

Speaker 9:

Well, they've done that back in our hometown before, so that's why said those hatchery ain't ain't good for for eating if their fish if that if it falls off and just your skin hanging there, there's gotta be something wrong with what they feed them.

Speaker 2:

However they're I just

Speaker 9:

thought I'd throw that out, you know, we do need to get rid of our trawlers and the gulf.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. We got fair resolution for that.

Speaker 9:

You're okay. Thank you for your program.

Speaker 2:

Of course. I appreciate you calling in with that top jumping in on that topic. It's definitely a huge one for sure about bycatch and trolling fishery or fishing boats. Yeah, what is the solution? What do we do?

Speaker 2:

We move them in different locations, limit their fishing grounds, give them a different kind of netting for trolling or whatever it may be. So, yeah, it's a tough situation. We do have another call. I'll jump right to it. Hi.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to Problem Corner. You're live and on the air. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 21:

Yeah. I'm sure glad that previous caller was talking about the overfishing. That's just that's brutal. And I've been hearing about those trawlers getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I mean, they were talking twenty years ago, they had, you know, hauling nets that were 20 miles long

Speaker 2:

Yeah. That's ridiculous.

Speaker 21:

Just capturing everything and then only keeping about one third of it and tossing two thirds of the rest overboard, which were dead by that point. Mhmm. So, yeah, those those, trawler dates, it's such an amazingly bad invention. Why in the world would they and and if I understand right, they're actually developing these trawlers now that kind of scrape the bottom so that, you know, if there was some some, you know, natural state down in the bottom of, whether it's the oceans or the rivers, they, they scratch it all up so that nothing can live at down there for years. And, you know, the the eggs and and, spawning of the, you know, the medium that it lives in is is just torn apart.

Speaker 21:

Yeah. The probably the sooner we humans get rid of those trawlers, the better.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's definitely it's crazy, though, because, like, a lot of the world's population obviously gets Alaskan quotes around Alaskan salmon or Alaskan fish in that general. And, yeah, just how do we mitigate bycatch and how do we make sure that we're not destroying the ecosystem? And, yeah, like you're saying, those heavy nets or those drags that this drag on the surf on the bottom to maximize the amount of fish that they could scoop up is kinda just insane that this is the technology we're using to fish nowadays.

Speaker 21:

Yeah. And and to imagine that you know, I remember, this is over fifteen years ago. There was a big financial scandal. It I think it was somewhat tied to the two thousand eight economic crash, but it was called the LIBOR scandal, l I b o r. And LIBOR stood for the London Interbank Offer Rate.

Speaker 21:

And so, basically, all of the world's interest rates were based on the LIBOR. Well, it turns out that LIBOR was cheating, And, and so all of the interest rates, you know, around the world were set artificially high, and they there was a valuation of the entire earth. And so all of the fish in the sea, all of the minerals in the ground, all of the potential, you know, harvest of all the grains that are planted in the earth, came to $24,000,000,000,000, but LIBOR had actually caused so many interest, overcharging of interest rates that they had gotten it up to $350,000,000,000,000.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 21:

So if I remember right, it was '17 times. We would have to scour the ocean 17 times to to pay off the LIBOR. We would have to, you know, dig up all the minerals out of the ground 17 times to to equal what the LIBOR had created in fraud. And so coming up with an invention like trawlers like that, it's totally short term gain, and there will be nothing left, in order to have, you know, for the next generations. No.

Speaker 21:

I think incredibly bad economics has led to bad inventions like that.

Speaker 2:

Like those trolling is, like, all about more efficiency. So we need bigger boats, bigger nets to be able to meet this demand. But, obviously, at the same time,

Speaker 11:

if we

Speaker 2:

shrink that down, would that would that would that essentially rise the cost of what salmon would cost for restaurants to buy or other folks that don't go out fish, but go buy their fish from the supermarket? Like, if we shrink it down, like, yeah, it's just, it's a tough situation. Like, how do we save our ecosystem? How do we make this viable financially as a state? And, yeah, I'm all for trying to keep our lands clean and efficient and making sure that we're not overfishing and being a detriment to our ecosystem here in Southeast Alaska.

Speaker 2:

But this is a great conversation. As much as I love to dive into more, I have to take another quick break before we wrap up the program, but I greatly appreciate your input on this this today, mister.

Speaker 21:

Oh, my pleasure. Take care.

Speaker 2:

You as well. Have a good rest of your Wednesday. Alright. We'll take our last commercial break. We'll be right back with more Problem Corner here on KINY.

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Speaker 2:

welcome back to the program here on KINY. I'm Justin Miller filling in for Wade Bryson on your Wednesday. Hope you're having a good day so far. We've been all over the place with our conversation about trolling, bycatch, and kinda the ecosystem future of Alaska. But we do have calls waiting on deck.

Speaker 2:

We'll go right to it. Hi. Welcome to Problem Corner. You're live and on the air.

Speaker 11:

Yes. Good morning. Good morning. Yes. Hi.

Speaker 11:

Yes. Pertaining to the trawling, why can't the the Department of Fish and Game and the Department of Fish and Wildlife jump in and put a halt to this trawling until the fish and game and wildlife can get a grip on what is going on with the trawling and and scraping the bottom of the sea and that sort of thing. Can they find these trawlers and maybe just, turn the the fishing off for them, temporarily until they're these trawlers are going to abide by the rules of fishing game and Department of Fish and Wildlife?

Speaker 2:

It's definitely a good outlook on that, but I don't we've had limits of of fishing, of course, through the years locally, either by the citizen or even commercially. We've had limits on the amount of fish that a boat could take in or even a person could take home. I think that might be the easiest option for commercial fishing, obviously, to limit the amount of fish that they could take in within a period of time. Like, obviously, they go out and they could be out on the water for a couple weeks on end. So having that limit on them could possibly help a little bit.

Speaker 2:

But as far as full on shutting them down, I feel like that might be a tough tougher situation than rather than limiting the amount that they could take.

Speaker 11:

Okay. Well, it just sounds like they're scraping the bottom bottom of the sea, and that doesn't sound right to me. So that's why I was thinking of this.

Speaker 2:

That's definitely

Speaker 11:

If they're not going

Speaker 2:

Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

Speaker 11:

No. If they're not following the rules and they're go beyond what the regulations are and scraping the bottom of the sea, well, something needs to be done to that particular captain Yeah. That Definitely. Boat.

Speaker 2:

I think either raising the amount of official overlook on commercial fishing, like, have more patrol boats out on the water and fishing grounds, having more patrol on docks where they pull in and unload their catch and just kinda more a little more policing might be able to help mitigate it, but then at the same time, they've already brought in the fish. The fish are dead. There's there's gonna be a tough situation. They're like, Oh, what do we do with this fish that you overfished now? What do we do with it?

Speaker 2:

And then But, yeah, I feel like either more policing on the water would be effective. But that's honestly, I'm not speaking this as search this is gonna happen, but that's just as another kinda concerned citizen. That's kinda my viewpoint on it, I guess.

Speaker 11:

Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm concerned just like the other gentlemen that, you know, they're digging up the eggs and and everything. Our future generations are going to not have the opportunity to fish because of these particular few individuals, these commercial guys that are going against the regulations and doing, you know, dragging and that sort of thing and disrupting the ecosystem.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. You know, it'll definitely no. Yeah. I definitely hear you there. And just kinda on that tangent is, like, thinking about I was just thinking, like, what if same efficient becomes like a rich person sport?

Speaker 2:

Like, unless you're a millionaire, there's no way you could go out on a fishing charter or fish for salmon, and it's like, that's the kind of the direction we're going. Either the wealthy are gonna be able to enjoy this animal, or we gotta figure out something else to make sure it stays for everyone.

Speaker 11:

Absolutely. I know. And I I just to God that it works for everyone here in commercial and and, you know, personal use here as well. And even, like, with the king crab, I moved back to Alaska in 2002, and so the king crab season was open. I believe at the time you were allowed two king crab, a male, of course Mhmm.

Speaker 11:

Per day, I think it was. It's been so long, per family. Well, then I think we fished maybe for two years, and then they just shut it down. Well, by that time, all we were catching were females, and the males had, I think, gone to the commercial men.

Speaker 10:

So Oh, yeah.

Speaker 11:

I think that's what happened. But it was overfished by the commercial men, and then now it's my understanding that now they're catching just the babies. So at least there's baby king crab out there, but think they shut it down when in 2007, and now it's 2026 now. And they still haven't I I know they every now and again, they'll open it up for, like, a few hours for, like, one one king crab, but that has been very, very sporadic throughout the last many years, which is really, really sad.

Speaker 2:

It is real sad. And I obviously, myself growing up in Juneau and just seeing all the influxes of limitations on fish or totally closing out king salmon fishing. Like, we've had a couple salmon derbies that you weren't even allowed to catch a king salmon. So if you reeled in a king, you had a release there immediately. So it was only, like, silver and coho.

Speaker 2:

You know? They they've done that before in the past, and that might be in our near future again where they cut they shut down personal king salmon fishing and limit commercial fishing on that. Like, you could only bring in a certain amount. So we're we're getting closer to that feature again. So I hope that we figure out those solutions.

Speaker 2:

I'd love to jump and talk more with you, but I'm running short on time. I do have another call, and I greatly appreciate you calling in today.

Speaker 11:

Oh, thank you. And I just need I think they need to just, like, cut back on the commercial guys a little bit. That's what I'm just trying to take here. But thank thank thank you very much.

Speaker 2:

Of course. Bye bye. Thank you so much, and have a good day.

Speaker 11:

You're well you're welcome. You as well. Bye.

Speaker 13:

Alright. Bye bye.

Speaker 2:

Alright. I got probably got time for one more call. Let's jump right to it. Oh, I lost him. My bad.

Speaker 2:

Feel free to give me a call. You have a few more minutes. There you are.

Speaker 9:

You are.

Speaker 2:

Hi. Welcome to Problem Corner. You're live and on the air.

Speaker 12:

Hey. Not opening up a can of worms because I support commercial fishermen. Yeah. But, do folks really think harvesting wild seafood at, like, a commercial, you know, industrial global scale is actually sustainable?

Speaker 2:

I don't think so.

Speaker 9:

Can you think of anything that

Speaker 12:

we harvest from nature on this scale that is sustainable? I mean, we grow most of our own food and, you know, like cattle and vegetables and chickens. I just I understand the debate becoming here, but I think everybody, if we take two steps back, the entire fishing industry, is it sustainable?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I think that's kind of part of my mindset on is, like, how do we keep us sustainable? Obviously, we could we've seen it through history

Speaker 12:

I don't where we can. Think I don't know if it can be sustainable to provide Alaskan caught salmon to restaurants in New York City.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was talking a little bit about earlier. It's like, yeah, if we do it, obviously, we've seen it in years past where fishing limits rises costs. You could go to a restaurant, have a slab of salmon for what, $30, and then now turn from $30 to $50 and a $100, and then like it'll just become

Speaker 9:

Well, exactly. And

Speaker 12:

that price is being driven up due to scarcity.

Speaker 11:

Mhmm.

Speaker 2:

But how do we yeah, that's a how do we keep it kinda in regulation, not necessarily whether it be sustainable, but how do we keep it that we don't make these animals extinct for the future? I don't know. It's a scary thought even just to think about it. And now that we've been talking about it a little bit, it's just it's concerning.

Speaker 12:

Yeah. I mean, extinction's a real thing. I don't think we're on that that edge quite yet, but No. You know, if you do the math, it doesn't add up. Just wanna throw that out there.

Speaker 12:

Thanks for the show.

Speaker 2:

Of course. I appreciate you jumping in and sharing your insight on that. And, yeah, fishing. We a lot of our a lot of our state depends on people. We have tourism, fishing, mining, natural gases.

Speaker 2:

These are huge natural things that we are using as a state to keep ourselves afloat. How do we keep it all sustainable? How do we keep it all in state? How do we keep making sure that families are fed, that we have work? And it's just it's a scary situation to be in in the world that we are, but not to like this has been has turned into quite a heavy Problem Corner today, but I appreciate the conversations, the input on it.

Speaker 2:

I'm not a fisherman. I grew up fishing, but never really was in the commercial field. I've had plenty of friends and family that commercial fish in the past. And, yeah, it's it's a really hard situation that we're in as far as the state goes with sustainability of that. In the meantime, I have a couple more minutes left of the program.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna throw out some of the calls that we've had today. So that kinda concludes our call segments for the program. So we had our first call with the gentleman looking for the red ochre paint for doing Tlingit art. And then he was also looking for a finance assistant to potentially work at how to bring Tlingit language back to our communities, whether it be a school program or a community program. He also is in search of a compression tester, a rear bike mount, some headphones.

Speaker 2:

He also has a couple Suzuki propellers, about 200 plus horsepower. I think he had a couple more items I did not write down fast enough. So if you're interested in helping him out with the paint or the finance assistance or getting him some of those items, give him a call at (907) 321-2853. Then we had the rare coins that are in search of appraisal or potentially selling to a collector. If you're interested in those coins, (907) 713-5568.

Speaker 2:

And then we had some Ryobi power tools. I did not say that right. Ryobi power tools, bunch of different ones. I have a huge list in front of me. This was through a text message, battery chargers, saws, impact driver, circular saw, trolley jack, portable car air compressor, everything must go.

Speaker 2:

So make an offer. The number to call for all those tools and accessories, (907) 419-7322. And also the big birthday, the shout outs to the state employees of DOT, the birthday shout outs, thanks to the beautiful birthday for that one lady that called in earlier. And yeah, so we've just been, yeah, it's crazy to think about our fishing future in Juneau, but that shall do it for Problem Corner for me. I'm Justin Miller, hope you have a good rest of your Wednesday.

Speaker 2:

And I'll probably be back here tomorrow as well with a special new guest. So stay tuned tomorrow here on KINY.

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