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DISRxUPT is a podcast from the Cedarville University Center for Pharmacy Innovation which explores novel advances in the practice of pharmacy. From nanotechnology to unique public health initiatives, DISRxUPT will highlight stories of pharmacists who are changing the paradigm of patient care.
Tune in for new content once a month detailing how the profession of pharmacy continues to change and how the Center for Pharmacy Innovation is playing a key role in this transformation.
Welcome to DISRxUPT, a podcast of the Cedarville University Center for Pharmacy Innovation. Today on the podcast, we're joined by Doctor. Shannon Yarosz, a pharmacist whose career exemplifies innovation and patient care. Shannon recently completed dual master's degrees in clinical research and translational pharmacology from The Ohio State University, building on her clinical experience at Nationwide Children's Hospital, where she earned multiple awards including employee of the year. She's known for developing innovative medication programs, and we're excited to have her here at Cedarville University as a faculty member.
Justin Cole:Listeners, welcome back to DISRxUPT. I'm excited to be back with you. My name is Justin Cole, I am your host. I hope you really enjoyed our last episode with Dr. Michael Hogue talking about the future of pharmacy. But today we're gonna pivot a little bit and where we had a national leader now, well, I wanna introduce you to someone who's right here at Cedarville University, Dr. Shannon Yarosz, who recently joined us here as one of our faculty members in the School of Pharmacy. And she's becoming more engaged with the work here in the Center for Pharmacy Innovation.
Justin Cole:It won't take long until you understand why this is a passion area for her and why she's such a fit for the work that we do here. So I'm excited to talk with Shannon today and we might have a few surprises and announcements related to her engagement with the center as we go. So Shannon, thank you for joining me today.
Shannon Yarosz:Yeah, you're welcome, Justin. I'm really excited to be here. I was thinking yesterday about whenever you think about yourself, you think of how you sound. And then sometimes I see videos of myself and I say, do I really sound like that? So I'm really interested to see once this comes out what I sound like.
Justin Cole:Absolutely. Well, I will say now doing podcasting for a number of years, I don't think you're ever satisfied with how you sound. So don't set a high bar. We it's always a different it's always a little bit different to be on the other side of the mic, but I'm sure you'll do a great job. So, well, let's just dive right in.
Justin Cole:So first I know you're a Buckeye through and through. You've graduated from the Ohio State University with multiple different degrees, including your bachelor's degree in microbiology all the way through your recent master's degrees as well, plus your PharmD there. So I would love to know what drew you to going to The Ohio State University initially and how did that long relationship you've had with Ohio State shape your career path?
Shannon Yarosz:Yeah, so I just like you said, was at Ohio State for a long time. I think what drew me to Ohio State was I've always heard of Ohio State when I was in high school. I thought about it and also I had a lot of family members that lived in Columbus and so that's really what drew me to Ohio State. I could still be close to home. I'm from a small town so it was nice to know that I could be far enough away but also close enough to go home if I needed to and also be surrounded by other family members and I went and luckily I had some friends that were there and my sister ended up coming to Ohio State as well.
Shannon Yarosz:So it was a great experience. Just like you said, I did my undergrad there and then I decided to do my Pharm. D. There and then I did my residency there and eventually I completed two masters and I went back and worked in the Student Health Center there after working at Children's. But I've always been connected to Ohio State too and I was working at Children's I took students from Ohio State and really wanted to give back to the profession in that way.
Shannon Yarosz:So still, I felt like I was a little bit connected there. But it was a great experience, and they've been, you know, great to me in all those experiences. And throughout my time there, you know, I started in undergrad in microbiology. So I was the student who really loved bacteria. And I know this sounds really silly, but I remember going into lab and we would grow bacteria and I loved it.
Shannon Yarosz:I loved walking in. I loved knowing what are we gonna look at today. It was just really interesting to me. And while I was doing microbiology, I remember thinking, How do antibiotics really, you know, play into this role with bacteria? And that's really what got me interested in pharmacy.
Shannon Yarosz:And so then I started looking into pharmacy. I knew Ohio State had a pharmacy program, so that really built on that. And so I decided to pursue a Pharm. D. Degree.
Shannon Yarosz:And then of course I really enjoyed my time at Ohio State and so I was able to get accepted at Ohio State, stayed there for my PharmD, built a lot of really great relationships, it was a great program. Yeah, so that was my time there. While I was there, I decided maybe I would really like academia. So kind of going back to my roots, I will say when I was young, I always wanted to be a teacher. So if you would have asked me, you know, when I was eight years old, Shannon, what do you want to be when you grow up?
Shannon Yarosz:I would say, Well, I want to be a teacher. And what makes me excited now is my daughter says the same thing. So when you ask her what she wants to be, she says, Oh, I want to be a teacher. So that makes my heart happy. But so fast forward a little bit.
Shannon Yarosz:I knew I loved the sciences. I ended up going to Ohio State doing microbiology. When I went into pharmacy school, thought, you know, that teaching kind of passion really came back. And so, I knew Ohio State had a good program that had teaching involved, so you could get a teaching certificate, you got experience in that realm, I thought that would great be a great opportunity. So the Lord blessed me.
Shannon Yarosz:Was able to do a residency and it was very teaching focused, which was what I really wanted. So throughout my residency, you know, I started thinking about what do I want to do after, you know, after my residency? And I was looking at academia positions at the time, but that just didn't feel right. Didn't feel like the Lord was leading me into some of those opportunities that came open. And then an opportunity arose at Children's.
Shannon Yarosz:And I really felt the Lord leading me to go there but I remember thinking, I don't really know anything about peds. Like, I I don't know. Is this really for me, Lord? And I felt led to go there so I did and what a wonderful opportunity that was. So I started out in the outpatient pharmacy there and sorry, I'm just been going into my life now, but
Justin Cole:That's great.
Shannon Yarosz:I started out there in their outpatient pharmacy and I helped kind of build up some programs there with parts of the other hospital and then I you know we could talk a little bit more about this later too but kind of moved into different roles but all the while I was still somewhat connected to Ohio State because I was taking students teaching them about pharmacy and I really love that aspect of it being able to give back and I'm a relationship builder so I love being around people I love talking to people I love being encouraging I would encourage others in their endeavors and that's what I really loved about that So that's been that trajectory so far. I guess I'll keep going, but from children. So we can talk about some of those experiences I had there too, but I'll kind of talk about how I got here. So after So while I was working there, I ended up I have two kiddos. So one is 10, my daughter, and one is seven, my son.
Shannon Yarosz:And after I had my son, I was hoping to maybe spend a little more time with them and I ended up moving over to Ohio State in their Student Health Center, which gave me a little more flexibility and time with the family, especially when they were very young. And at that time, I was actually able to pursue two master's degrees too. They were online, so balancing that at the same time, we can get into how I got wanted to get into that too. But from there, I did start feeling that the Lord was leading me again to academia. So that love for academia that I had when I was young, it's funny how the Lord really brings it full circle.
Shannon Yarosz:So that's how I landed up here. I ended up here.
Justin Cole:Well, know I can speak for everyone on our team that we're excited that you're you're never not a Buckeye, right? Yes. But we're excited to have you here as a Yellowjacket and be investing in our students here at Cedarville. It's just a real treat for them.
Shannon Yarosz:Oh, yes.
Justin Cole:So, you've talked a little bit about your experiences. Are there any particular maybe moments or stories where you could see how the Lord was shaping your path and helping you be ready for a transition to academia?
Shannon Yarosz:Yes. So when I moved over to Children's, so when I started at Children's, I was able to participate in some activities that I never really would have thought I would have. So it's funny when you're in pharmacy school you kind of think these are the things I like, these are the things maybe I don't like as much, but the Lord sometimes has a different path for you and starts to refine you and so he really provided these opportunities for me to grow. So I started doing things I never would have pictured myself doing. So for example, I've built a lot of relationships moving in helping with some building some programs because of that I was able to build relationships with others throughout the hospital and then start seeing needs and meet and maybe working with that and then moving into those other areas.
Shannon Yarosz:Again, you would have asked me in pharmacy school I would have said I'll never do that and then here I am the Lord's leading me to do something that I didn't know I could do and you really pick up different skills. So they really helped me learn new skills and different ways of thinking about things that really has prepared me for an academia job. I do look back and think, wow, I'm so glad the Lord brought me through that because I'm I'm such a better practitioner because of that and I'm able to give those experiences to our students and I hope hope to continue to do that and bring that forward which maybe I couldn't have done. And that's not to say that you can get into academia right after, you know, pharmacy school. That certainly is the path for some people.
Shannon Yarosz:But I can see in my particular life the way the Lord worked through different things and brought different passions in my life and kind of guided me that way.
Justin Cole:Yeah, absolutely. So I want to go back to your work at Nationwide Children's really briefly. That's actually where we first met because we were both employees at the hospital for a few years where we overlapped. And I guess one more personal connection is we've both actually worked with the neurology groups at Nationwide Children's as clinical pharmacist. And so we even got to interface there, which is fun.
Justin Cole:We have some passions that align. But I want to go back to your time there. You were privileged to win a major award at Nationwide Children's. You were actually selected as the whole entire organization's employee of the year one time, which guys, that's no small feat considering the thousands of people that work within this large health system. So congratulations on that.
Justin Cole:I know it was a few years back, but great work. I want to go back though to see was there maybe one particular program or initiative that you're most proud of being a part of building while you were at Nationwide Children's?
Shannon Yarosz:Yes. And thank you, Justin, for that. That was very kind words. But wow, there were so many things that I was very blessed to be a part of that I really enjoyed. First of all, I would say not so much a program, but really getting to meet everybody that worked there and people in different like in nursing or marketing and outside of pharmacy as well.
Shannon Yarosz:I like I said, I love building relationships, so that was one thing I really loved. But program wise, what was really neat is we were able to incorporate our students into some programs that we were building and so some of those were delivering medications to different units on the floors throughout the hospital so it was started a little bit before me when I came in I tried to start kind of really honing in on that. Some of the floors really were the NICU was one of them, surgery particular surgery patients so right after outpatient surgery we were able to take their medications to them and teach them about the medications so they didn't have to come all the way to the pharmacy for that. Even in the emergency department, we tried. Sometimes there's challenges with the emergency department just because, you know, they're a very hard place to be and there's a lot going on there.
Shannon Yarosz:But even in those aspects, we really built relationships with the other departments. We're able to take medications to them and then build a system where our students could really help with that and sustain it. So our goal was we want to build this program, but also we want it to be sustainable. Because sometimes you know you can help build a program but if it's not going to keep working even when you're not there it's really hard so our students really played a big role in that and then we were able to find out how we could keep it going even if we weren't there the students weren't there and it was a really big benefit to the hospital and to the patients especially when they're overwhelmed and then that's one less thing they have to think about someone comes and explains their medications to them before they leave so that was really rewarding and I loved meeting the families and the patients and just talking to them and, you know, hearing their stories and what questions they had about their medications. And that was that was really great experience.
Justin Cole:Well, I can personally say that there was a lot of benefit that came from that there at the hospital. So great work. So I want to transition and ask you about your master's degrees. So after over a decade in practice, you made the bold decision to pursue not just one, but two more degrees after your PharmD. Most of us never get another degree after that PharmD is awarded.
Justin Cole:Those master's degrees were in clinical research and translational pharmacology. So I'm really curious what sparked your decision to go back to school? And was it challenging to balance that with your work and family life at the time? What did that look like for you?
Shannon Yarosz:Yeah. So, something I don't think I've mentioned yet, but when I was at Children's, so one of the things I was able to do, which I was really excited about and you mentioned, was that I was able to work in the neurology clinic and specifically with the Complex Epilepsy Center with complex epilepsy patients. And that was such a rewarding job. I really enjoyed that. It's something that I look back on with very fond memories, and it really shaped my it really shaped how I look at health care, and I just I I still miss it there, you know?
Shannon Yarosz:Sometimes I miss those patients and the people that are there. But while I was there, Children's has a really great they do a lot of research there and so that's when I started kind of getting really interested in research because sometimes we would see patients that were in research studies or you know just learning about the different disease states and what might be coming out of the pipeline and what are we studying and that became very interesting to me. So that started to become a passion of mine when I was working in the neurology clinic there and I thought to myself, you know, if I were to move into something, think I would really enjoy research and just learning more about research and how can I apply it as a pharmacist? Kind of going back how I said I ended up going to Ohio State and working in the Student Health Center there and they offered those master's degrees and I remember thinking that is so interesting I would love to do that and it was online so all of it was online so I was able to still work and be able to do this kind of at my pace there in modules and also I had two kiddos so the online really worked for me.
Shannon Yarosz:So I was able to balance it that way but also I think what helped is that, know, if you're learning something you're passionate about it makes it a little bit easier. So even though it was very busy, it was a very busy time of life, I was just very excited about it. So that's kind of what helped me. I would say too, this is it might be a silly thing, but it was also I started right when COVID had started. And so the first little piece of it it's funny because I thought, well, nobody's doing anything anyway, so I'm not missing too much, you know?
Shannon Yarosz:But it also kind of kept my mind off of it because I was still learning about something new. My husband worked in the emergency department at the time, too. So, you know, a little bit of a stressful time there, lots of stuff going on. But yeah, I think balancing it really was just being passionate about it and finding that time, but still balancing, you know, work and family and and learning something new. So I really enjoyed that.
Justin Cole:That's great. And it sets you apart. You've got some unique credentials that most pharmacists don't have or even think about pursuing. So for students out there, if research is a passion, there are multiple venues to get experience, whether you're in pharmacy school or with advanced degrees and certifications, lots of opportunity out there. Well, I wanna talk a little bit about some of the research you've had an opportunity to participate in.
Justin Cole:And those include, of course, being a coauthor related to your medication delivery programs that you've already talked about, and also some epilepsy related quality measures. So this is more of a general question, but how do you see research translating into real world practice improvements? And why is that so important? Are there areas of passion that you would like to research in the future?
Shannon Yarosz:I love that question. Okay, so when I was in pharmacy school and again, when so when I did the degrees for research, I do love the fact of, you know, clinical trials and preclinical trials. But as a student, it wasn't until I was in my residency and then working at Children's that I also realized research doesn't have to necessarily always be these big patient clinical, you know, trials. You can do research on what you're doing at your workplace, you know. What I found was really interesting is finding a need.
Shannon Yarosz:So if wherever you're working or wherever you're at, if there's a need that needs to be met or if there's something that you're doing and you're like, I really wish we would do it this way or would it be better if we did it this way or would this help our patients if we did this thing? You can implement that and study it. And so really it is a process of kind of studying what you're implementing. Like you mentioned the medication delivery program just even looking at that saying okay here's how we implemented it and then you always want to go back and see how is this doing is it meeting the outcomes that I had hoped for is it doing what I wanted it to do If not, how can I make it better? How can I approve?
Shannon Yarosz:You know, is there anything we need to change? That constant what we call the plan do study act cycle. And so, you know, thinking about those things from wherever you are I think is very practical and you don't even you know you don't have to be a researcher to be able to do that so I wanted to put that out there I think that you know just thinking about meeting a need wherever you are some areas of research I would like to get into maybe moving forward is I do have that passion for clinical trials so I would love to get involved with something like that in some capacity you know there's a lot of moving parts to that but that's something I would personally be passionate about I do love the topic of neurology I still feel very connected to those patients and I think that that's something I'm very passionate about. But even from just an everyday perspective just, you know, looking at as I'm teaching kind of seeing anything that I need to maybe fix or anything like that and kind of move forward and seeing how I'm implementing things. I'm doing my own little research to see what can I do better and kind of change?
Shannon Yarosz:Hopefully that's helpful.
Justin Cole:Yeah, absolutely. And you touched on something that I want to expand on a little bit, and that is that research doesn't always have to be in these rigid clinical trials like pharmacists often think of. We think and truly, there's a place for and a need for these large placebo controlled studies to really help us to understand whether a particular drug is helpful in a given patient population and a given condition. However, the type of research, one of them that you highlighted was sometimes you just look for a need and then tell the story. What I love about that approach is that there's a lot of places where we can innovate in practice.
Justin Cole:And we may just really quickly try to fix the problem or put something in place that ends up working at the end. And if we really want to accelerate change in healthcare, one of the best ways is when we find those success stories, we then tell the story to others outside of our own organizations. And one of the ways that we can do that is through research. And so I love the way you frame that because I will admit when I was a student, I did not realize that research had so many different facets and avenues, but it truly does. So you can be a researcher in all kinds of different places.
Justin Cole:So thank you for pointing that out. I think that's great. So I wanna transition now to your transition to academia. So again, you're here at Cedarville University in the School of Pharmacy as assistant professor of pharmacy practice. So you've mentioned this in your story, your initial interest in teaching very early on, But what was it about the season of life and academic practice that made you want to take the leap to investing in the next generation of pharmacists?
Shannon Yarosz:Yeah, after so once I completed my the master's degrees, I was really thinking what do I want to do with this? And I it's funny because I did feel the Lord really leading my heart back to academia. It had always been there especially with precepting. I consider precepting teaching. You're with the students and you're teaching.
Shannon Yarosz:You're using your knowledge that you've gained and all of your experiences. But really, that formal didactic teaching kind of came back into my heart, and I started thinking about it, like, how can I give to students? And I had known about Cedarville University, and I knew that they were a Christian university. And then I started to think, you know, I'm a Christian, and how can I really, you know, go somewhere that shares my values that I can still pursue teaching and then I can share my faith as well? And I can do that here at Cedarville.
Shannon Yarosz:And so, I started looking into that and God really led me here and here I am and it's been so rewarding. I, you know, it's funny. Again, you learn no matter how old you are. You're always learning. And this is just a new challenge for me, but it's a great challenge and, you know, I've prepared for it.
Shannon Yarosz:And again, you're just learning and I'm sure I'm gonna be making changes. It's one of those constant PDSA cycles, you know, you do it and then you look back, you're like, all right, this is what I would change. This is what I'm gonna keep. This is what I'm gonna do different. Yep.
Shannon Yarosz:But, yeah, I love that. And, you know, I was able to pray with our students today before our exam. And that was wonderful to me. You know, on my drive here, I prayed for them. I just wanted, Lord, to give them wisdom and, you know, help them when they study.
Shannon Yarosz:And, and not only that, but hopefully, I've taught them well and what can I do better to make sure I'm still teaching them? And when I got there, prayed with them, and hopefully, it makes them feel a little more at peace. Just knowing that the Lord is also leading them somewhere and to just rely on Him. And that is just so rewarding to me and knowing that they share that as well.
Justin Cole:Absolutely. And I couldn't agree with you more fully that when you can find a place that resonates with your values and their mission and clearly for us, Cedarville University is that place. It changes how you approach your job even. And it's just a joy. So yeah, we're excited to have you as part of that work here at Cedarville.
Justin Cole:So everyone knows the name of this podcast is DISRxUPT. So I want to kind of focus on innovation a little bit and just let you think about different areas of practice in pharmacy that you feel like are ripe for disruption or that you think we should change. So I don't know. Are there any things that come to mind when you think of pharmacy innovation?
Shannon Yarosz:Yeah. So what I something else I love about Cedarville that I didn't mention is that we have a Center for Pharmacy Innovation, which I think is wonderful because it really gives our students opportunities to do things outside of just the didactic classroom in learning and being able to use that entrepreneurial mindset and to think kind of bigger outside of the box. Something I think has been really unique in the past couple years is just the amount of technology and how technology is growing. I mean we can use technology for anything now and so really how can we incorporate maybe some of this technology in health care and what can we do to make our patients lives better? So I see maybe moving forward using some of these things to figure out how we can reach our patients, make things better for our patients, just having that mindset of how can we utilize some of these things that are coming out.
Shannon Yarosz:But also, just like I was saying, I think it's great that our students, if they are working somewhere, they they can bring their ideas too and really work on them. So if they see a need that needs to be met, they can identify it and and we have the opportunity to really help them do that. And I think that that's great.
Justin Cole:I like to talk a lot about problem solving and that being one of those critical skills that if you can just master even a few aspects of a problem solving approach, you can be an agent of change wherever you are. And I hope that's what we are able to accomplish here, both through the center, the podcast, and also many of the other things that we're doing here at Cedarville. So I want to ask you for advice for any young people who might be listening today. So you've gotten to be a part of implementing several innovative programs in your career, and we've heard about some of those. What advice would you give to a young pharmacist or a student who wants to be innovative?
Justin Cole:Like they hear this word and they're like, Oh, that sounds great. But they're not exactly sure what to do with it. So what advice would you give those students or young practitioners?
Shannon Yarosz:For younger students and young practitioners, and really anyone, I would say, you know, maybe not limiting yourself. So recognize that wherever you go, there's always opportunity and not to be a you know don't be afraid to ask so like we were saying with finding a need wherever you are if you find a need don't be afraid to go ask so that would be one small step wherever you are For innovation, maybe finding places that are a little more open to doing innovation or or kind of have that mindset. But again, I don't want to limit, you know, you to just trying to find those places. Because really, if you find a need somewhere and you are somewhere and you bring it up to someone, you know, and they see the need, they will help you kind of incorporate that. So that would probably be my advice is just to make sure if you go somewhere, don't be afraid to bring up some something that you're passionate about that you would like to maybe see implemented and go from there.
Shannon Yarosz:And you'd be probably surprised at how many people would jump in and want to start doing what you're doing, too.
Justin Cole:Yeah, absolutely. I think that's great advice. So we've spent a good bit of our time talking about pharmacy. But like you've mentioned, you're also a wife and a mom of two and you have a lot of different interests and hobbies. You're also a volunteer.
Justin Cole:You've been involved in the past with Make-A-Wish, with Awana at your church. So I'm curious, how do these experiences influence your professional perspective? And what do they teach you about making an impact beyond pharmacy itself?
Shannon Yarosz:What I love about volunteering and doing some of the activities outside of pharmacy is it really starts to make you think about others, and so which I think is, you know, such a blessing. Sometimes it's easy to get bogged down by the every day of life. Sometimes life's challenges or, you know we all know that we have really great days and some days are little more challenging and but some you know I found that when I'm volunteering or giving back or you know with a one I love it I see all the young faces and it just really brings joy you know it brings a lot of joy and it helps you think outside of maybe the challenges that you're facing for the day and just realizing that you know there's others that you can make an impact on And so it I think that for me doing that makes me think outside of myself. I know that I don't know if that makes sense, but that way I can focus on someone else. And and, you know, it's it's been just such a blessing.
Shannon Yarosz:And Make-A-Wish has been great too and you know it's funny because when I left Children's I really wanted to feel still like I was saying connected to those patients and so I felt like volunteering with Make-A-Wish really helped me connect back with that. And that that's been such a rerooting experience as well. And then, of course, at Awana, my church, you know, my kids are in Awana. I go and I see some of the kids that I go to church with, it's just so much fun, you know? So even if the day is going a little bit hard and then you go there, it's, you know, you leave there so excited, you know.
Shannon Yarosz:So that's what I really love about volunteering and all of that. So that's been great.
Justin Cole:Well, it's no question that you leave a positive impact wherever you go, Shannon. And it's also no secret if you know me or have talked to me, I will consistently say that Shannon is one of the most positive people on the planet that I have ever met. So, if you're in need of encouragement or a smile or an attaboy, all you got to do is stop by Dr. Yarosz's office and you'll get exactly that. So yes, it's no question that you make a positive impact everywhere you go.
Justin Cole:And we're excited that you're doing it here at Cedarville. So I have one more important thing for our listeners to know, and that is Dr. Shannon Yarosz is going to be joining DISRxUPT as a cohost moving forward. So not only did we want to feature her as a guest to learn about her career and passions and innovation, but also we wanted to introduce her to you guys as our listeners. And so, Shayna, I'm excited to have you on the podcast with us from here on out and to be working with you in this capacity.
Justin Cole:It'll be great.
Shannon Yarosz:I'm so excited, Justin. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be a fun time.
Justin Cole:Well, let me ask you one more question as we end this episode. And that is, as you're joining us as a cohost for DISRxUPT, what perspective do you hope to bring to our conversations? Are there any topics or issues that you hope that we cover in the future? You're kind of helping us plan the podcast right now on the podcast.
Shannon Yarosz:Yeah, so Oh, wow. I feel like I have so many ideas. It's hard to hone in on one. But I love what we've been doing so far so really bringing on a lot of great people who have talked about their experiences and just getting different experiences of pharmacists out there I think is great because sometimes especially as a young pharmacy student or even if you're not a pharmacy student recognizing that there's so many avenues that you can take as a pharmacist so I think that's great and that's something I would love to continue and then even just the changing landscape of health care and people coming in giving you know updates and stuff like that is really where I see I'm hoping we can do a few more podcasts and I'm excited. I love the social aspect.
Shannon Yarosz:Again, you know me. I'm an encourager. So I'll probably bring that little side to it.
Justin Cole:But Absolutely. There's no question you'll bring that perspective and our guests will will love it. So hey, Shannon, thank you so much for coming into the studio today and telling your story. Listeners, you'll be hearing her voice more. So we're excited for that.
Justin Cole:Thanks again for coming on the podcast, Shannon.
Shannon Yarosz:Thank you, Justin.
Justin Cole:You have been listening to DISRxUPT, a podcast from the Cedarville University Center for Pharmacy Innovation. If you enjoyed listening today, please subscribe and share this podcast with others. Thanks for listening.