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We need a new definition of success—one that harmonizes meaning and money.
Imagine diving into your workday with renewed energy, leaving behind the exhaustion or dread of a monotonous grind.
Traditional beliefs about success and the root cause of burnout are the same:
Prove yourself.
Work harder.
Take care of the business, and it will take care of you.
We’re recycling the mindset and practices that keep us stuck. Our souls need a jumpstart into The Age of Humanity.
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I'm your host, Rebecca Fleetwood Hesson, your thrive guide leading you into the new Age of Humanity. I’ve navigated the highs and lows of business and life, from achieving over $40 million in sales, teaching thousands of people around the world about leadership, trust, execution, and productivity to facing burnout, divorce, raising a couple of great humans (one with ADHD), and navigating the uncertainty of starting a business.
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Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: [00:00:00 - 00:01:00] Welcome back to the Business is Human podcast. I'm your host, Rebecca Fleetwood Heschen, and we're here to bring you episodes that blend a meaningful work with profitable success. Here to steward what I call the Age of Humanity. I believe if we transform the way we work. We can transform the way that we live. As always, my friendly request, if you like what you hear, hit subscribe so you don't miss any episode and leave a review to tell the other humans that they might like it too. Always looking to help you and connect with others. All right, let's get into it, shall we?
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Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Welcome back. Lemme start by asking, have you ever found yourself so lost in the numbers, the analytics, the spreadsheets that you just got completely disconnected from what you're trying to accomplish, where you're headed, what you're doing well today? We're gonna explore why getting stuck in data can mean losing touch with your future or the future of the organization.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: [00:02:00] So we're gonna break it down like we do around here with some neuroscience, some scripture, some practical technical leadership stuff. So this is a continuation of last week's episode, where we do this to ourselves. We get so stuck in solving problems that we treat ourselves like a problem, but this also applies to how we lead.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And so I wanted to bring you the breakdown because I strongly believe that it's causing many of the issues that we have with. Manager crisis and so many CEOs leaving the workforce. It is a byproduct of the industrial age model and the age of humanity has a healthy balance and perspective of data and also vision and intuition and.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: [00:03:00] Human things, so, data's everywhere. We're in business. It's guiding our decisions. It's guiding the strategies. It's, everywhere. But here's the thing. Data can provide clarity, but it can also create confusion and paralysis. And you know, we've been there. You've been in those meetings where it's just starting to spin and you're thinking, holy moly, we're gonna be here for an extra hour.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And weren't cocktails supposed to start at five? it's just happens. PS I saw this video the other day where this company, instead of having cocktail hour, they have worship hour. Listen, they bring in a worship band.instead of the bar, they have the band and they still have, you know, non-alcohol mocktail kind of stuff and, great snacks.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: The energy in this video was unmatched, so take that little note for [00:04:00] what you will. I said this earlier, but the phenomenon, The manager crisis and the manager crash that we talked about in an episode previously. A big part of that the research says is because the managers are overwhelmed by data-driven demands that are causing tons of burnout.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So it's, give me another report on that. Give me another analysis of that. Give me another. Update your salesforce.com. I need a spreadsheet. And while managers wanna be either with their team or with their customers, or with people doing the work of connecting and solving problems with people, leaders often disrupt what really is helping the customer and helping the team by asking for more.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Data, which then everybody loses sight of why you're there and what really matters and the overall vision.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: [00:05:00]
I have watched this time and time and time again as a coach and a consultant, and I know where it comes from with leaders, it's fear and uncertainty they're disconnected enough from the work
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: They feel uncomfortable and afraid. And so they ask for data because analyzing the data gives them purpose in the moment to feel like they are fixing things or, making a difference. But much of the time, they're disrupting. And the neuroscience tells us that excessive analytical thinking.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Triggers our brains stress response, putting us into fight or flight mode, which makes us feel like we're surviving, which then blocks our creativity and our ability to really connect human to human or to even plan for what's next. And so the intention [00:06:00] is I need more data to make better decisions. But When you do that repeatedly and ask for more data incessantly, you are shutting down the manager's ability to solve problems and be present and your own too, by the way, as a leader.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Love you enough to tell you the truth. Let's look at it through timeless wisdom. it has stood thousands of years. From my favorite book, Proverbs 29, where there is no vision. The people perish Vision is about purpose and direction, and where are we going?
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: The more that we allow people to let their intuition and their sensing and their guiding and their connection of one another to solve the problems versus more data, you get real time problem solving. I'm gonna tell you a Bible [00:07:00] story that illustrates this point. and if you're not a Bible person, the story's still good.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Listen. Moses was leading the Israelites out of Egypt, comes from the book of Exodus, and up ahead was the Red Sea, and then this huge army behind it. So logically it seemed impossible, but Moses wasn't being guided by analytics. He was led by faith and the driven vision that they were gonna get through this, and the Lord would provide, and he was trusting in something greater than his visible circumstances.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: It wasn't spreadsheets that parted the sea, it was his belief that he was being guided and protected by the Lord. y'all sometimes might need to just take a break on the data and maybe break open good book or [00:08:00]
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: [00:08:00]
just pray or, just use some good old fashioned intuition. What does your gut say? We ought to do.Have some guts and use your gut. Don't get me started about. Publicly traded companies being the biggest part of this problem that we think we can solve problems in three months to report to the street.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So the neuroscience of balancing analysis with intuition, guts, this is what's already wired inside our heads. Our soul, our brains are beautifully designed with two distinct hemispheres. The left hemisphere loves data. It's logical, it's analytical, loves some details, but the right hemisphere, it's intuitive, it's visionary.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: It sees the big picture We need. Both. So the most
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession:[00:09:00]
effective leaders don't just stay stuck in one side or the other. They integrate. Both data informs decisions, but intuition and empathy propel innovation and build meaningful connections with others. The balance is crucial. So I wanna pause here on this piece too, because.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Too often, and I've experienced it personally with a multitude of leaders, so, this is true, whichever side of the brain that you are more gifted in, biased towards. If we're not careful and don't understand that there needs to be a balanced perspective, we can judge. Others for seeing the world differently.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So if you're a very, data-driven person, that's your side of the brain, that is the most on fire gifted. If you're not careful, you can look at the visionary, intuitive leader and think they're a quack, think they don't know what [00:10:00] they're doing, think that they're incapable, and vice versa. If you're the visionary leader.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: You don't have a healthy respect for data, you can get off the rails. And so being able to come together in a complimentary ways is what great leadership does, because the balance is crucial. Say here's, a vital perspective on this. Data only captures what's already happened,
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Intuition is linked to the future. It helps us dream. It helps us innovate and step boldly into possibilities that will fire up some people's spirits we walk by faith. Not by sight. Data is valuable, but faith and intuition connects us to God's wisdom [00:11:00] and spiritual discernment, which extends beyond measurable results.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: There's all kinds of supernatural solutions to problems that are available to us that we're not tapping into because we're downloading another spreadsheet and then we go home exhausted and stop caring. here are some reflection questions that you can take with you this week.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Where might you be over-relying on data in your leadership or personal decisions?
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Number two, how might your decisions change if you tapped more intentionally into your intuition and your faith driven vision? Do you have a vision that might be a place to start? And how can you consciously balance your analytical mind with your intuitive insights? So, action plans, shall we have some action plans, practical ways to put this into action, schedule, regular reflection and
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: [00:12:00]
prayerful meditation to invite God's insight into your decision making.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: prayers, not just for Sunday. it's for every single decision, every single day. I pray about all my businesses decisions now. I didn't always, but I'm gonna tell you, things have gotten a lot better since I have. next practical action plan.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Introduce intuitive thinking exercises into team meetings such as brainstorming without immediate judgment.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: if you ask people to brainstorm, and then every time somebody puts something on the flip chart, you say Why that's not gonna work, or why you've already tried it. Oh, for the love of everything, holy. The number of times I've given the death stare across the table to a leader that I was working with, I was like, stop doing that,
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: because then you've just shut down the brainstorming and they're no longer tapping into their
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: [00:13:00]
intuition. Now they're asking themselves if they're getting the right or the wrong answer because you've introduced judgment to the meeting, and judgment wasn't invited. It's party crasher. We don't invite judgment into the brainstorming session.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: It goes down the hall and does something else. So if you need to like eat an apple during that session to keep your mouth full so you be quiet, okay? Whatever it takes. Here's another one. Periodically step away from data reconnecting with your broader vision and mission. So if you are in a situation.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Where you're getting asked for data constantly. this happens a lot. The chances are high that it's because the leader is afraid. Afraid you're not gonna hit the goal. And their body language may not look like fear because everybody shows up differently, with their emotions. It may look like
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: [00:14:00]
ego and command and control, but a lot of narcissistic ego command and control behavior is rooted in fear. They may be being pressured by someone else, the board, somebody else for the data. So even though they don't wanna do it, they're being pressured by somebody else to do it. So the more that you can be proactive with. General updates that you create a rhythm for so that you're not being disrupted constantly.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: When people ask for data, just decide proactively that you're gonna give a weekly update or a monthly update or whatever it is that's designed to give people the assuredness that you know where you are and you have a plan, and if you need their help. Ask for it. But the more you can proactively give updates that settle the fear and uncertainty in people's [00:15:00] brains and nervous systems, they're less likely to come and ask you randomly on a Tuesday at two o'clock to stop everything you're doing for a report.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So it's good to stay on top of the data yourself proactively It's also really, really good for you to step outside in the middle of the day, maybe a couple of times a day. and get aligned with nature so that your nervous system knows you're a human. And remind yourself why you do what you do, who your work is for.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Like literally your company. Who do you serve? Think about the humans that your product or service serves. Who's it for? Why does it matter? Where are you going? And when you do that, you reconnect to what really matters and get into that state of connection and intuition and creative problem solving. Or at least
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: [00:16:00]
you get into that state of. I'm doing it for the humans. I'm not just responding to another spreadsheet request, which is not all that inspiring for most. So do what you gotta do to stay connected to what matters. 'cause great leadership isn't just about the power of numbers, it's not just about money or being fast or first. It's about.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: blending that analytical clarity and information as a business person with that God-inspired vision for why your work matters. Don't just measure your life by visible outcomes. Measure it by what you believe God can achieve if you invite him into the mix. I'm telling you, game changer. Message me if you wanna talk about it. Until next time, love you mean it.
Rebecca Fleetwood Hession:
Thanks for being here. You can follow us on Instagram, Business Is Human, or TikTok, Rebecca Fleetwood Hession. It's a great way to share some of the clips with your colleagues and friends. Alright, make it a great day. Love you, mean it!