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What is Man in America Podcast?

Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.

Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.

After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.

He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.

Seth Holehouse:

Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. One of my favorite aspects of doing this show, and actually not just the show, but just my life in general, is that I get to talk to experts, and I get to do a lot of really amazing research. And something that's the most fascinating to for me to research is the aspects of our or or the aspects of our history and knowledge and truth that have been hidden, covered up, deleted, censored, demonized, and so much more. Because while it's easy for us to believe that, wow, this is the twenty first century.

Seth Holehouse:

We're so advanced. We've got, you know, electric cars. We've got, you know, all these advanced medicines. What I've come to learn is that what actually was going on a 200, five hundred, a thousand years ago in many ways was far more advanced than what we have today. And what's happened though, is that this modern system we have, these these controlling elites, the social engineers, the cabal, whatever you wanna call them, what they've done is they've taken our true history.

Seth Holehouse:

They've taken the the true ways that we can heal ourselves with elements that God has given us. They've taken the previous civilizations that were here on earth that built magnificent structures and found incredible ways to heal the human body or to harness energy, and they've covered up these truths, and they've hidden them from us, and they've convinced us that we're just these meat puppets walking around that need to rely on big pharma and big government to take care of us and protect us. And I so I love diving into these issues. Now my guest today, like my good friend Jeff Adam, we were originally gonna be talking about the history of of medicine and these ancient ways of healing and purifying, and how that, you know, kind of has been hidden from us. We'll bring it back into the modern day, and we'll be getting into that.

Seth Holehouse:

But something that just happened this week, which is really incredible, I wanna make sure that we touch upon, was this discovery of these massive structures beneath the pyramids because this highlights actually the exact conversation that we're gonna be having and which we'll be getting into. We're talking about electroculture and and all kinds of crazy things. But I wanna first kinda dive in a little bit and give you a little bit of background of what's happened with these pyramids because this is mind blowing to me. So I've got a short video to play for before I jump into that, though. I wanna remind people that if you're watching the show, thank you, first off.

Seth Holehouse:

If it's your first time coming here, welcome. I'm your host, Seth. I'll be guiding you through these and just walking you through with me on my journey of trying to find the truth, trying to filter through the lies, trying to figure out what was really going on a couple hundred years ago or even ten years ago that we're being lied to about now. And it's really a a fascinating journey because we get to discover that our bodies and how God created us were were so much more amazing than what the scientists want us to believe. And so just a quick reminder, though, if you're watching, you can also download the podcast the show as a podcast.

Seth Holehouse:

So if you prefer to listen instead of watch, just go to your favorite podcast app, like the Apple Podcasts, Spotify, etcetera, and you can find the Man in America show on there. And one special request I have for you, if you are someone that listens regularly, especially on Apple Podcasts, if I could ask you one big favor, go leave me a review on there. You can give me one star if if you don't like what I'm doing or if you hate Man in America, but you probably wouldn't be watching. But if you enjoy the show and you listen on Apple Podcasts, take a few seconds, give me a rating on there, let me know what you think because Apple Podcast is one of the few areas that I can actually reach a lot more people because I'm so banned in so many other areas like YouTube. Forget about the show wouldn't go on YouTube.

Seth Holehouse:

But if you leave me that rating on Apple Podcasts, and the more ratings I get on there, the more it helps me to reach more people that are listening to Apple Podcasts and help bring in this truth. So, again, that's your that's your short homework assignment. If you're listening to the show right now on Apple Podcasts, just press pause, hit that rating. You don't have leave her if you don't want to, but, you know, leave a comment or something. Love seeing your comments.

Seth Holehouse:

That'd be a huge help. So, getting into today's show, I'm gonna play a a short video for you, done by Greg Reese, who is one of my favorite content creators. This is amazing little videos about what's happening with these pyramids because this is a great example of us discovering that we know so little about our history and about the technology that predates us. And so I'll play this for you, and then we'll be getting into the interview with, with Jeff. So let's first take a look at this video here.

Seth Holehouse:

This is, about a SAR scan of the the pyramid. So anyway, I'll play it for you. He does a great job introducing it. The video is almost five minutes long, but I think I'll play maybe the first two or three minutes on it, because that kinda hit drives home the point. So let's go ahead and check this out.

Speaker 2:

Corrado Malanga from the University of Pisa and Filippo Biondi involved in radar and remote sensing research with the University of Strathclyde published peer reviewed research in 02/2022 via MDPI entitled Synthetic Aperture Radar Doppler Tomography reveals details of undiscovered high resolution internal structure of the Great Pyramid Of Giza. Their research was conducted using SAR data, synthetic aperture radar, along with proprietary software developed by Filippo Biondi that transforms the radar signals into phononic information, which allows for the detection of millimetric vibrations. This cutting edge technology is capable of revealing underground structures invisible to traditional methods and revealed internal structures never seen before. Having established their expertise in using SAR to explore pyramid structures noninvasively, a recent press release on their current project was released last Saturday. This March 15 press release summarized the key findings in the team's research of the second largest pyramid of the Giza Plateau, known as the Khafre Pyramid, and what they found was astonishing.

Speaker 2:

The analysis of dozens of tomographic SAR images obtained from different angles enabled the three d reconstruction of inside the Pyramid Of Khafre and deep beneath the surface of the plateau. Near the base of the pyramid, five identical structures are seen, connected by geometric pathways. Inside each of these are five horizontal levels and a sloping roof. Below these five structures are eight cylindrical structures, which appear to be vertical wells, hollow inside and surrounded by descending spiral pathways. These eight vertically aligned cylindrical structures, arranged in two parallel rows from north to south, descend to a depth of six forty eight meters, where they all merge into two large cubic structures, measuring approximately 80 meters per side.

Speaker 2:

The entire structure extends approximately two kilometers beneath the surface and extends beneath all three pyramids of the Giza Plateau Complex. Mainstream Egyptology tells us that the Giza Pyramids were tombs for pharaohs Khufu, Khafre, and Menkure, and that they were built around twenty five hundred BC using ramps, sledges, and levers. But the redundant mathematics in their construction, which include pi, the golden ratio, and the speed of light, along with the testimony of today's expert architects, suggests that the official story does not hold up. The massive underground structure, revealed by the recent SAR data shows what appears to be a mechanical or functional system, and this has been hypothesized in the past. Nikola Tesla believed that the pyramids could harness Earth's natural frequencies.

Speaker 2:

This arguably inspired his experiments in wireless energy transmission and scalar waves. In the Giza Power Plant, Christopher Dunn argued that the Great Pyramid was a power generating machine using resonant and acoustic forces to convert mechanical stress into electricity. In the Giza Death Star, Joseph Farrell proposed that the Great Pyramid Of Giza was a weapon of mass destruction, using a type of physics that he calls paleophysics to focus energy as a scalar weapon. The cylindrical wells could be conduits for energy or sound waves, and the cubic structures might serve as energy storage or stabilization units, akin to components in a large scale weapon or generator, and the detection of vibrations in the pyramid s internal structures reflects all of these ideas. The Khafre project hopes to plan an excavation in order to discover more about this underground structure, but history shows that this will be very difficult to get approval for.

Speaker 2:

Greg Reese reporting.

Seth Holehouse:

So I don't know about you, but this is absolutely mind blowing information. I I mean, so the pyramids have already been a mystery. You know, no one's been able to you know, they're thought, oh, I've had all all kinds of theories I've come across whether they use vibration, whether they could float the rocks, whether they could liquefy the stones, all kinds of theories I've come across. But when you get to the idea that not only the these pyramids themselves absolutely impossible to imagine how they would have been built, you know, two, two and a half thousand years ago, the idea that there are these structures that extend two kilometers down opens up so so many questions. Did they dig these holes?

Seth Holehouse:

Did they did they, like, excavate everything and they build these structures and slowly fill it in? What were the purpose of these these things? I mean, how did they even do this? How would they build these two kilometer deep wells with spiraling material and these 80 kilometer or 80 meter wide boxes at the bottom? How'd they do that with shovels and slaves and pickaxes?

Seth Holehouse:

I mean, this is just mind blowing information, and I love this stuff. It's I I get excited about this stuff. It's like I loved history as a kid, but, again, I think it was all a bunch of lies. I I I love the saying. It's like you think our news is fake.

Seth Holehouse:

Where do you see the history? Right? That our history is faker than our news. And you can imagine that. It's so cool if they if they're lying to us about the present, do you really think that they're telling us the truth about the past, that they've had the ability for decades and centuries to slowly modify and manipulate shape stories, hide.

Seth Holehouse:

I mean, this is absolutely fascinating to me. And so in my discussion today with Jeff, we're gonna be talking about the pyramids. We're gonna be talking about electroculture. We got some pictures of people that have actually grown massive vegetables using this old format called electroculture. And actually, we've done the same thing, which I'll talk about that experience that we did and the amazing results that we, had, including kale leaves that were probably three feet tall.

Seth Holehouse:

I'm not kidding. We did this on our own property. We will also be getting into the history of medicine and some of the ways that people were healing themselves, you know, hundreds of years ago, even thousands of years ago. We'll talk about some of the ways that they actually purified water and and vessels for storing food and and liquids even back into the, you know, two and a half thousand years ago. So this will be a really fun, fun interview with Jeff.

Seth Holehouse:

I hope you enjoy it. And again, thank you for being here, and if it's your first time, welcome. I hope you love the show and come back for some more. So please enjoy the interview. Mister Jeff Adam, it's great to have you back on the show.

Seth Holehouse:

Thank you so much for being here with us today.

Todd Callender:

Oh, thank you for inviting me. You know, we had so much fun last time I was on the show. You know, we we covered a lot of topics, and, it's great to just have conversations about really good things.

Seth Holehouse:

It is. And I I especially love when the conversations take us back to some of what I, you know, refer to as the hidden history, because we have this perception that what we have in front of us, what modern technology has given us in the past hundred years is the best and the brightest and the most technologically advanced that all of humankind has ever experienced. Like, it's this idea that we keep evolving and that we're we're we're at the the always the pinnacle. But what I've discovered in my own research, I'm sure that you as well, is that that was maybe the case except for the fact that, you know, a hundred years ago, a couple hundred years ago, a lot of our old history was taken away from us and hidden from us, and we've been given a new version of history and of reality and of health and medicine that is meant to keep us inside of this mental cage because if we learned the real history, then we could see through the current present, and we wouldn't be able to, you know, kind of be kept as slaves anymore. And so I love these discussions where we get into, so what were they doing a couple hundred years ago that's different?

Seth Holehouse:

They've been hiding from us.

Todd Callender:

Yeah, well, it's really interesting, you know, when you wanna reshape society, one of the first things you do is you take out the history. Because if you can't see how far you've came, you can't see the advances, and you can't see the procedures, You know, the generations past, those guys were pioneers. You know, they didn't have the computers and the AI and the stuff to figure out stuff for them. You know, our doctors used to be people who would get in front of a microscope, they would look at your blood, they would look at you, they would compound your medicines and make them in their shops. And, you know, well, advancement technology is great.

Todd Callender:

Now our doctors are just somebody that diagnose and prescribes that's giving a book by big pharma, and they look at you and go, Okay, what are your conditions? You know, here you go. So, the lack of understanding historically is a huge thing, especially in the medical and science industry.

Seth Holehouse:

It really is. Actually, one thing I was just pulling up, I'm not sure, have you seen the recent information that came out about the pyramids?

Todd Callender:

You know, I've been really interested in the pyramids and how they were built and stuff like that. Unfortunately, I don't have as much time to follow my hobbies as I do with, you know, growing our company and making great products, but I do have some knowledge. So if you tell me what you're thinking about.

Seth Holehouse:

Well, so here here I'll show you this because this just happened in the past couple of days. This came out where there is this scientific group that, that used this high powered sonar. So so new sonar technology to scan the the pyramids. And and and so as we're getting into this hidden history and and what they've been hiding, this is one of the greatest examples. What they found was that underneath I think there was a the the Giza Pyramid was the main one they're looking at.

Seth Holehouse:

They discovered that underneath the pyramid were these eight massive pillars that went about two kilometers underground into these huge boxes, and these pillars had spiraling things going up around them. There's actually here. I'll show you. This is this is a Twitter post about it. Right here, it says, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Seth Holehouse:

This is a news story broke. There's a mat there's massive structures beneath the Pyramid of, Kaf, Kafre, I would pronounce that. Something far beyond the tech level assumed of ancient Egyptians. What what can back these claims? Extraordinary technology, synthetic aperture radar.

Seth Holehouse:

So this right here is the picture. This is what the structures look like that they found under the pyramids that extend kilometers. I think it's around two kilometers underground. And this was I mean, is put out, like, you can find the scientific papers on it. I mean, this is they had a huge press release.

Seth Holehouse:

It wasn't some theory. This is what they actually were able to discover using, this technology. And so they they get into this is an article explaining, you know, how it works and how the radar works, but, I mean, this is mean, again, this just just this just came out, and this is absolutely incredible. Here's some of the, information that they found in some of the the scans, what they found underneath, but they found inside the pyramid, they found these structures inside the pyramid that there's these five or six different almost like little house like structures inside, but then as here's another diagram that as they went under looked underneath, here's a it says this more recent press release is from subsequent work by the same team finding that there are massive cylindrical wells beneath the pyramid claimed to extend 600 meters below the surface. It says this is totally beyond anything conceived of his engineering ability at the time, and this is well sourced information.

Seth Holehouse:

So, anyway, that's kinda thrown thrown I'm sure you're gonna go into some sort of rabbit hole tonight looking this up, but this just shows that we know so little and so much has not been discovered or has been discovered and covered up or just been erased from our history?

Todd Callender:

Well, it it's kind of like a lot, representation of the Internet. You know, on the surface, people get information and, you know, people used to really learn how to research things and go in-depth on them. Now people just, you know, pull up whatever comes up first on the internet and go, okay, this is what it is because it was the most marketed version of it. Hopefully people will take away from this and learn that, you know, when you're really interested in learning about something, you have to look, go down to the foundation of the science behind it. And what gives its ability to stand on its own merit?

Todd Callender:

And that's a good foundation. And you know, here you have these mass structures on sand. Well, it would make sense that they have to have a good foundation. And that may be my building background when I would look at it. But yeah, that's incredible.

Todd Callender:

And maybe we find out those were just wells to bring water up and maybe somehow hydraulically floated stones up to stack on top of each other so you don't have to have the weight. I mean, it opens up a whole new aspect of building on the pyramids, which is gonna be amazing. Now now you got me I'm gonna start following it. So I gotta go with my eyes.

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah. Sorry to sorry to drop that on you unexpectedly. But yeah. I mean or maybe, you know, we we discovered that it was Tesla type energy that they were harnessing. I know that actually Nikola Tesla had referenced the Pyramids and some of their ability to harness energy.

Seth Holehouse:

So maybe maybe the Pyramids were giant generators, and they were able able to harvest Earth's ether and convert it. Maybe the obelisks around the world or maybe in different locations were receiving energy. I mean, who knows? Who knows? But it's it's wild to get into something, and and I love these topics because I I think that, you know, one of the phrases I like, it's like, think that our news is fake.

Seth Holehouse:

But wait till you learn about our history. Right?

Todd Callender:

Because Oh, yeah. And maybe it's, you know, it's science from, you know, aliens or another planet or, you know, maybe those cylinders, that wire is going around, maybe, again, there was a ballast there that would follow that going up, you know, and as water levels rise, it would raise those stones up and they could position them where they're going. Like I said, it's got my mind going now just from my construction background, But it'll be amazing to see what kind of technology, you know, we're so smart now we can't figure out how to build pyramids, but yet they could do it back then. So it's either got to be alien technology or divinely inspired, I would think.

Seth Holehouse:

Yeah. Well, are you familiar with the term electroculture? No. So, this is something that relates to gardening. So I'm sure, you know you know, Tesla had the idea, and a lot of others have, you know, this idea that there's this other element called ether.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? That there is this Yeah. Basically, that there is energy all around us, and that there are ways of actually harvesting that energy. You can pull that energy, and it's almost as if we have a wireless kind of grid that's always there. And a lot of people get into hidden history of going to Tartaria, the old buildings.

Seth Holehouse:

They said that they actually had ways, through antennas and those domes on top of the buildings that they could actually pull in that energy and use it for lighting and heating, etcetera. Well, electroculture, what it is is, we we do a lot of gardening. And so electroculture, what you do is very simple. Is you take a stick and you wind a pure copper wire, like a thicker copper, around the stick. You have to do it a certain way.

Seth Holehouse:

I think it's it's to be counterclockwise or clockwise so that it pulls energy in, and you put those sticks all over your garden. Maybe they're three feet, four feet tall. And so what it does is it actually those sticks actually pull in energy from the atmosphere and delivers into the plants. And you if you look for it now I'll find some images once I'm I'm not talking because it's easier to find something, but you look at how they used to do this kind of gardening, and they you find these pictures of these guys holding cabbages that are this big, and they're holding these huge plants that these plants grew to three, four, five times the size. And so we did this actually our last year we're living in Ohio, we had a bunch of gardens, and we we were growing a lot of, kale, Swiss chard, a lot of leafy greens.

Seth Holehouse:

And I'm sure you've seen kale plants where typically, you know, a piece of kale might be 12 to 18 inches big or so, or a Swiss chard leaf will be about this big. Well, where we put the electroculture, I'm not kidding. I had I had kale stalks that were probably this thick around and the leaves I'm not kidding. The the leaves were this big and we had I had pieces of Swiss chard that were almost three feet long. And if you go in the grocery store, you know how much Swiss chard how big Swiss chard is or how big kale was.

Seth Holehouse:

You know, again, they're typically they might be a 12 inches or 18 inches, but we had they were almost like mini palm ferns that these giant

Todd Callender:

Oh, wow.

Seth Holehouse:

Kale and Swiss chard, and that was done from electroculture. Actually, I'll I'll let you respond while I find some pictures of this.

Todd Callender:

Well, again, that brings a lot of things to point with me. You know, copper is huge in antimicrobial entities and, you know, cleaning up things could be in the soil. The ability for copper to carry current is immense. That's why they use it in all electrical. And also there's a condensation point there where, you know, at night when it cools off, that copper is warm and creates condensation and can be helped carrying the minerals from the copper down into the soil along, you know, sun comes and heats it up and supercharges it.

Todd Callender:

And, you know, what is our soil? Is it, you know, 70%, eighty % water is what they say? Well, water's polar. You have a negative and a positive charge on each end of a water molecule. When you pull, that's what creates the bond of water.

Todd Callender:

So if you've ever filled glass of water, you can fill it above the rim of the glass. So it'll have that dome to it. It's called caprylic connectivity. And it's that electrical bond that causes that. So now, when you pull water molecules apart, there is a spark, but you don't see it because it's in water.

Todd Callender:

And that's the energy that you can capture. And what happens when you restructure water is you're actually pulling those water molecules apart and it's trapping that energy in the tetrahedral structure of the water and reenergizing the water. Like if you've ever watched a water going down a river and there's a rock in the middle, the water actually splits before the rock. And that's the memory that the water has, it's learned a pattern. And when it comes around the backside, it swirls in two opposite directions, slamming itself together, much like a nuclear collider does with the atoms.

Todd Callender:

And it's pulling that apart and putting that energy in the water. And that's why running water is always gonna be clearer than pond water, because pond water is dead water. They're not pulling the molecules apart. And just that energy it can harness in the water is immense. And that's why we're seeing a lot of things with hydrogen water is another big one, where if it wasn't for hydrogen in our body, so every molecule of water has two hydromolecules and eight oxygen bond molecules, and it's that hydrogen in the water that's in our body, because our bodies are, gosh, 90% water, I think.

Todd Callender:

That's that hydro that allows us to stay awake. We couldn't eat enough food to stay awake for over four hours if it wasn't for the hydrogen in our body. And so we're seeing a lot of things coming forth with the hydrogen waters coming out and a lot of health things that water's in charge of. I mean, water is the single best thing you can do for yourself is drink a good quality water, not the polluted ones that they're putting in bottles and sending those.

Seth Holehouse:

Exactly. I found a picture. So this is not sure.

Todd Callender:

I apologize. Oh, it's okay.

Seth Holehouse:

Thought it was on my end. So, this is a looking for a electroculture. It looks like this is a, a cabbage and then a, gosh, what is the it's my brain fart on the the plant to the right. Which we cook with them all the time. I forget what they're called, but, anyway, this is just one of many pictures you'll find.

Seth Holehouse:

You these old pictures of these farmers holding up these cabbages that are, you know, two feet in diameter, just through this electric culture. And I guess that from my understanding of how what happened is that these this caught on, quite some you know, I think it was back in the eighteen hundreds even they were doing this, early eighteen hundreds, and then the, the kind of government or the authorities were coming by and saying, look. If you do this, you're gonna kill the farming market because you're gonna have too much food, and you're gonna kill the prices of the food. So we can't actually do this because it's gonna it's gonna throw off the balance. But, again, this is just one of those examples of this hidden technology.

Seth Holehouse:

And so something that you and I covered on our last interview was silver and getting into the the properties of silver and how before really before the Rockefellers took over our medical system, how silver was the most common, antibiotic. And so I went on my own deep dive after that and researching silver and got really fascinated because I love, you know, I I keep a 10 ounce bar of silver on my desk just because I love I love this stuff. Right? Just the feel of it, but also how the the properties of it and we talked about and we'll we'll get into some of the details of and I look forward to that. But I went in and discovered all these things that, you know, the early pioneers in America would drop a silver coin in their water vessels.

Seth Holehouse:

The Roman soldiers would also they put a silver coin in their water vessels to keep their water clean. And then, yeah, even back in the Egyptian time, they had silver lined vessels for wine and for, water to keep their, those liquids from spoiling. There's the bubonic plague, which the spoon the silver spoon in your mouth, born silver spoon in your mouth, would go back to people that were able to, eat. Those that ate with silver spoons and used silver in their eating actually avoided, by and large, you know, dying from this plague. And so it's just incredible.

Seth Holehouse:

So, yeah, I know this is, you know, much more this is really your focus. It's a world that you live in, and you're in my mind, you're the silver expert, especially in these these old ways. But what what was give us a little bit of a background on, like, the history of silver, how it's been used, and then also, what happened and why silver is no longer, actually, I'll I'll pull up here. This here's an old picture. This is an old, colloidal silver bottle.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? You see the the the respiration date says was November. So it wasn't 1998. I'm guessing that this is so it's either, you know, most likely it's it's 1898 potentially. I'm not sure if it's around that time or maybe it's a little bit either way, you can tell this is old, this is old colloidal silver bottle.

Seth Holehouse:

So give us a little bit of history of silver, you know, what it's always done and what happened or why it's not really commonplace in our society anymore, except for maybe like a hospital setting.

Todd Callender:

Well, first, I've gotta get this off my brain. So was that plant called a leek?

Seth Holehouse:

Oh, it was a leek. Yes. Yeah. It was a leek. Yeah.

Seth Holehouse:

That's it. Because I I I had to download that.

Todd Callender:

I I'd be focused on it.

Seth Holehouse:

So. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Because, you know, because we do potato leek soup a lot and everything. I love leaks.

Seth Holehouse:

So, it was it was a leak, but looked like it was like this big around.

Todd Callender:

Oh my God. That's huge. I mean, normally it looks like a scallion.

Seth Holehouse:

Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. You fixed my itch too.

Todd Callender:

Well, mean, silver, like you said, three thousand years before Christ, the Phoenicians would line their water vessels with it so that the water wouldn't stagnate. So, I mean, it's been well known the history of silver. Scientists in the late 1800s would put silver dollars in their petri dishes to sterilize before they actually did tests so they could kill all the bacteria or potential bacteria in there so they could make sure they get the right results. The dairy companies would actually drill silver holes and coins and put a string through it, they'd put it in the bottles of milk when they delivered it before they had refrigeration so that the milk wouldn't stagnate and grow bacteria in it. I mean, it's been used throughout history.

Todd Callender:

Like you said, the bubonic plague, a matter of fact, the tradition of giving silver pacifiers to babies was born during that because the plague was, I think 1348 to 1350, and over three hundred million people died from the plague around the world. And less than one half of one percent or one quarter of one percent were wealthy. So, because of the eating off of the silver spoons and scraping of it. And that's why this pandemic that they did, you know, people keep comparing it to the plague. Three hundred million people died from the plague worldwide.

Todd Callender:

I mean, this was nowhere near that level and they use that to incite people. And this is the important of history, like we talked about at the beginning. If people knew the history of America or the world, they would have seen that this is a lie that they're spreading out there saying, Oh, this is gonna be like the plague. You know, it's like, no, I mean, you elevate the population. It was about a third of the population or a quarter of the population actually died from the plague.

Todd Callender:

I mean, now we have close to what? Close to six billion people on the planet. I mean, so that equivalent, if this was a legitimate pandemic at that level, you would have been looking at about three, two to three billion people or I'm sorry. One to two billion people dying. And it it it wasn't even a a tenth of 1% of that.

Seth Holehouse:

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Seth Holehouse:

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Todd Callender:

You know, so when you look at, how they they manipulate history or trying to get history out of our society, and they've done that with silver. You know, before 1923, it was the number one prescribed antibiotic in the world. And Rockefeller tried to patent it, but it was part of most countries' monetary systems. So, you couldn't really patent it and it's all natural, you can't patent anything, it's all natural. And a couple years later, he discovered penicillin.

Todd Callender:

And that's when big pharma was created, realizing that every single pharma product out there is plant derived. So, they take a plant that works, to give you an idea, aspirin, acetaminophen is basically the equivalent of white willow bark. And you can eat three trees and it wouldn't hurt you, but if you take over six acetaminophen six days in a row, twice a day, it'll destroy your kidney and your livers and cause all kinds of problems. And that's because we're putting synthetics in it. Your body does not process synthetics.

Todd Callender:

All these forever chemicals, like the glyphosates that you hear about that are out there, it's because of the synthetic in it. It bonds to the fatty tissue in each of your cells and never goes away. And that's the chemical part that they're putting in. And again, when you look throughout history, the importance of going back in history is when you see why the doctors and the scientists did what they did back then is because they didn't have this distortion of profits in their head that the number one thing you do is profits. No, no, the number one thing you did as a doctor is you took care of your patients because you were really in a limited environment where you only had so many people that you could treat and only so many people in your local area.

Todd Callender:

And so they built relationships with those people. Now, you know, since the insurance companies took over, basically the health, our whole health departments, the doctors know they have another person waiting in line to get to their office. So they don't build those relationships and they've gotten to realize, so if you have rheumatoid arthritis, it's clinically a bacterial infection caused by a macrophage. Now they can cure you by prescribing minocycline. And this is one of the times I'll recommend a medicine that I don't normally recommend medicines, I recommend all natural.

Todd Callender:

But they can give you minocycline and ten to fourteen days of minocycline will get rid of your rheumatoid arthritis. So for $370 they can cure you, or they can treat you for the rest of your life by giving you medicines and make $370,000 So again, they've taken the motivation from doctors as being doctors, family men, businessmen aspect of it that not killing my customers and healing them, they're gonna keep coming back to me because I don't have somebody else waiting at my door turning it over to big pharma, which is like, don't worry about that. We'll just, if we kill off our base, humans have become a commodity like never before in society.

Seth Holehouse:

And so when you again, so talk about antibiotics, would you say that you mentioned 1923, that when Rockefeller came in and and really seized control of a lot of the medical system, Right? The medical journals, medical schools, the hospitals, as as they they they you know, throughout history of they they know how to do this. They know how come in and seize an industry. So now you mentioned that, you know, silver and, penicillin. So taking, again, a a natural substance that, you know, literally, this just came out of the ground.

Seth Holehouse:

It was refined and melted and poured into this. So would you would you say that the origins of big pharma were antibiotics? And was that one of the first major things that they did to, basically, to demonize and get rid of the natural God given cure and then bring in the patented synthetic made in a lab cure? Would you say was it was for antibiotics? Was that the major first switch?

Todd Callender:

Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, doctors looked at curing people and they relied on plants, you know, that, you know, you had all the minerals in your diets. So, a lot of the diseases that are now didn't exist back then. They didn't have the pesticides, you know, they used horse manure. They fed horses hay that they would cut off the ground. You know, they didn't spray pesticides on them.

Todd Callender:

So everything was so natural, it was just a natural occurring thing. And now you get into quote big pharma, you know, what does Rockefeller and Notorious for? Manipulating the stock markets in the early 20s. You know, he actually did criminal things and they made him the head of the stock exchange to make sure nobody else can do it. And so that was a transition into creating big pharma.

Todd Callender:

It was like, hey, well, wait a minute, you know, we did this to the stock markets. You know, we can do this to big pharma. We become the gold standard of and create an organization that dictates the FDA, the CDC, you know, the fraudulent drug association, the CDC, the criminal drug cartel, that they can become a self governing body and do whatever they wanna do. And, you know, when I first looked at the Micronix Silver about getting it certified as a recognized medicine, They told me the first thing I have to do is cut a check for $24,000,000 before they allow any testing on the product. And I was like, I can cut the check, just don't cash it.

Todd Callender:

Know, they make it impossible for little guys to do this. And again, look at the person behind it, Rockefeller, you know, in the 20s, a multi multi millionaire, you know, that has gone forward, he could afford to do this stuff, but they're the ones who set the protocols. They're the ones who put into pharmica or in the Bible, you know, it says pharmica will be actually part of the downfall of man is the exploitation of pharmica. But he was able to write their own rules because he created it, you know, or the governing body that he created created it. So they decided that only a medicine can heal.

Todd Callender:

Well, in the history of pharmaceutical, no drug has ever cured anything. It always just treats the symptoms and creates an acidic environment in the body because it's not natural. And it leaves you open to get sick on other things. So, it treats just that one side effect of whatever disease you have. And knowing that it's not alkalizing the body, so other diseases can move in, incubate in the body, and grow.

Todd Callender:

And he passed or they passed a rule that only a pharmaceutical can cure. And if you had scurvy and you went to the doctor, and scurvy is a vitamin C deficiency. Eating lemons, it was actually lemons and limes that they ate more than oranges, but they're high levels of vitamin C. So as a doctor, if I went in and said that, know, he said I had scurvy, he has to write me a script for a pharmaceutical. If he writes a prescription for me to eat lemons or oranges, he loses his medical license because he's prescribing an unauthorized medicine.

Todd Callender:

That's insane. I mean, you look at how they manipulate these markets.

Seth Holehouse:

It's absolutely it is. It's insane. And so, with silver, you're saying that so in the past, before the modern antibiotics, that they could say you got a a cut on a wound or, you know, what whatever you would typically use silver for. So, like, this this, you know, bottle I think brought the picture up here. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

This is an old eBay listing I found, right, of, right here, this vintage 80 ounce brown glass bottle. It's funny. They call it quack medicine. How funny is this? That literally in in the e this this is it right here.

Seth Holehouse:

Like, we're proving our point that this is now referred to as quack medicine, this colloidal silver bottle. So, I mean, gosh, imagine that. So anyway, so the quack medicine colloidal silver, how would they use this in the past? Would it was it something that that if someone had a cutter infection, would they pour it on it? Would they put it onto a gauze and apply it?

Seth Holehouse:

Would they orally consume it? Like how was this antibiotic used?

Todd Callender:

I'm not sure how that one was, but typically you would drink it. And the reason they put it in the dark bottles is because silver reacts with sunlight. Know, colloidal, ionic, and nano silver are noted for their instability, meaning two degrees temperature difference, you could have a different product. It reacts with impurities, that's why it should be made with distilled water. Heat, barometric pressure, I mean, all that stuff affects it.

Todd Callender:

So they put it in those brown bottles and they would say, You drink it and it'll help with things. And it was kind of effective. When silver really made its big push in the early 20s was with syphilis, because they cannot culture syphilis, even to this day, they can't culture it. So, silver was the only thing that would actually work on syphilis. And of course, during the roaring 20s and stuff, it was pretty much running rampant.

Todd Callender:

That's when silver really got a big following as for how it worked. And that's why Rockefeller jumped on wanting to patent it, is because it was the only thing that would work on that. You know, but going forward, you know, throughout history, it's always been there and it's always been demonized. When you look at what the efforts they put in to big pharma on protecting big pharma, when you talk about natural things, you talk about vitamins and supplements, and like the silver, copper, zinc, these minerals that are also metals. They lump those products in with the people that worship pyramids and blow these Ricola horn trumpets and crystals, and to try to make us seem like a whole bunch of wackadoos out there.

Todd Callender:

And that's why they isolated the medical industry where you have your baby doctors, you have your bone doctors, your eye doctors, your throat doctors. I mean, they're such specialized units because they're so professional, but yet people like us, they say, this stuff is all, you know, witch doctor, medicine, you know, quackery. There's a doctor out there, his name is Doctor. Joel Wallach. He's the one who sued the government in 1973 because he discovered that the bread was stealing critical minerals from children.

Todd Callender:

So now that's why they have to fortify enriched bread. He was a veterinary scientist, became an agricultural science, became a veterinary scientist, became a medical doctor.

Seth Holehouse:

He's Is this him right here?

Todd Callender:

Yes, yes. Now he's about 89 years old. All his research is in the Smithsonian, the only doctor in the Smithsonian. They said they can't even put a price on what it would cost to replicate his research. Yet they say he's a quack.

Todd Callender:

He's said he's cured people with Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, dementia, and diabetes. The federal government has sued him 10 times and they've lost every single time. He's proven that, what's it called, cystic fibrosis is not hereditary because he's found it in chimpanzees. He used to work with Marlon Perkins for Mutual Omaha's Wild Kingdom. He was a veterinary scientist that did autopsies on over 80,000 animals.

Todd Callender:

He actually created a book in the '90s called Dead Doctors Don't Lie, and he did autopsies on over 600 doctors and found most of them had disease states they were specialists at. And they call this guy a quack. You know, and this is big pharma, how they try to protect themselves. There was another doctor researcher named Lauren Day, who she was all throughout the AMA, she developed cancer and she had a tumor the size of a baseball between her breast. And she decided not to go through chemotherapy.

Todd Callender:

And she did the holistic treatments, she did the organic coffee enemas, stuff like that, actually fed herself through implant enemas. So she was a top research doctor traveling around the world. The American Medical Association praised her. The Association of AARP had her all over her stuff. Well, when she decided to treat herself unnaturally and got cured, they said she was a quack.

Todd Callender:

AARP pulled her name off of every article that was provided in them. You know, this is the evil that we're dealing with. All we're asking for is truth. And when things work, this past presidency, it was about three or four years ago, our legislation body was trying to make it illegal or make us companies responsible for testimonies our customers give. So if a customer took our product and said, Hey, this cured me of that, that they were looking at my product off the shelf because somebody claimed it worked for them.

Todd Callender:

I mean, they are so afraid of natural remedies that they don't want to give any credence whatsoever. And that's why they try to shut them down. Now, with what people like you do, you know, at the end of times, it says it's gonna get darker and darker and his saints will shine like bright beacons and speak with a thunderous voice. You are the thunderous voice that allows us to get the truth out there. What they didn't count on is us people bonding together in truth and saying, Well, wait a minute, you know, we're looking at getting the truth out there.

Todd Callender:

You know, if my product doesn't do something, I will say my product doesn't do something. If somebody wants to talk to, you know, about cancer, I'll tell them about the apricot seeds. You know, if they have, you know, blood flow problems and stuff, I'll talk to them about John Hewlett's product. You know, I'll say, yep, you want this product. You know, so they don't want that truth out there because once people start recognizing the truth or seeing the truth, they start recognizing the truth.

Todd Callender:

Then they start looking at what they're saying and going, okay, this doesn't make sense. And this is why they confuse the language, which is learning lessons of Babylon against us. You know, when they were building the tower, they were succeeding. And when God confused the language, they crumbled. Well, they learned from that.

Todd Callender:

They've been changing the language and using it against us to create chaos and confusion, which is the sign of evil. And they just expect us to be quiet. Now we're going forward unafraid. The pandemic was the best thing that actually happened to the truth is because now people got to realize, they were so arrogant in the way that they did it, that they thought that we were so dumb. When it comes about to it, and a friend of mine always used to say with Americans, after we've exhausted every other option, we basically do the right thing.

Seth Holehouse:

That's actually true. So thankfully, seems like we're at the very end of exhausting all the options. So, so, Jeff, I wanna focus a little more on on silver more specifically because I'm I'm still kinda hung up on this mechanism. So how is it that a metal and this is this is also what's confusing about it a little bit. It's like similar to, like, say, red light therapy.

Seth Holehouse:

You know, like, I I just actually, before I interview, I did fifteen minutes of red red light therapy, you know, part of my normal daily, thing. It's like, how does light heal you? Actually, we look into it and you see, like, oh, okay. You can make sense of it. So how does it that this metal right here, which you would think that, okay, I can't eat it.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? It's not food. You would never think of it as a as a metal as being anything medicinal. Yet, like, what are the properties with silver that actually make it medicinal? How how do these mechanisms work?

Seth Holehouse:

And then I wanna get into you, you mentioned micronic silver versus colloidal. So I wanna I wanna kinda then look further into that, but starting, how does silver even play this role medically? Well,

Todd Callender:

there is a toxicity to silver with single cell organisms. So the way that silver, when you're looking at the colloidal, ionic, the nano silvers, typically the way that they worked is they're absorbed under the tongue. So, you're taking the physical silver itself and turning it into, you know, subatomic particles or ions. So when those get into the body, typically absorbed under the tongue, when you swallow those products, they hit the stomach acid creating silver chloride, destroying it. So it's really just the absorption of the tongue.

Todd Callender:

And typically they would be absorbed into the cell of a single cell organism, and they would, with a type of respiratory suffocation, destroy the chemical lung of the single cell organism, destroying it, and then hit it with the ionic charge killing it. And that silver would be trapped in the cells and get washed out through the lymphatic and waste system. And silver is known to be antibacterial, antimicrobial, antifungal, antiviral, antiseptic. So, it's all those things because of its toxic, I'm gonna call it a frequency because it's a molecule to those single cell organisms. So it doesn't really affect the multi cell organisms like that.

Todd Callender:

But every single bacteria, fungus, or virus out there starts out as a single cell organism. So because of the toxicity of that, and copper has some of that too, and zinc has some of that property too. And this is where they get you confused because when you hold up that bar, you're this is a metal, you know? So is zinc, so is copper, so is mercury, so is lead. So they talk about heavy metals.

Todd Callender:

The reason silver, copper, and zinc are not heavy metals is because they're also minerals that you have to have in your body to survive. When you look at lead, you look at mercury, those are heavy metals because there's no use form in the body, they're very heavy in the body. The medical society has used those toxic medicals like mercury to suppress the immune system because when you use a synthetic in your immune system, your immune system says, I don't want it in there, and fights against it. So, they use those metals to actually suppress your immune system so that their chemicals can work on the disease that they're targeting. And that's where stuff like silver and like copper and like zinc, there's no toxicity to you in the body.

Todd Callender:

There's only a toxicity towards that single cell organism. What sets the micronic silver aside versus those, those other ones kill basically all bacteria, all fungus, all virus, even the good stuff in your stomach or your microbiome. So they always recommend doing acidophilus or some kind of probiotics afterwards. Or the micronic silver only targets the bad bacteria. So, it doesn't affect the good bacteria.

Todd Callender:

So, don't get that washout of the essential bacteria you need in your gut for proper absorption and the reduction of inflammation in the body.

Seth Holehouse:

And so walk us through so okay. You my chronic silver. How so I know before we talked about how important it it is to be stabilized. Right? And how colloidal these other silvers, even slight variations in temperature can destabilize that.

Seth Holehouse:

And there's a lot of people that sell colloidal silver, and we use it. You know, we have colloidal silver gel and colloidal silver, you know, all kinds of different products that we use, and it's really effective. Actually, the the gel for burns is fantastic. We have a colloidal silver that, from Mike Adams that we use. If my daughter touches the fireplace and she burns her finger, put it on there.

Seth Holehouse:

And, you know, if I do something stupid, you know, then I'll I'll I'll use it as well. But so so get let's get into my chronic silver and how is that different, how is it taken, etcetera.

Todd Callender:

Main thing is the stability factor. So typically, colloidal, ionic and nano silver delivered sublingual in the body, only stays suspended in the body for six to eight minutes, And then it starts precipitating, becomes less effective and gets washed out the lymphatic and waste system. The micronic silver itself stays active in the body for eight to ten hours. And the rapid fire effect of how it works is different. Where the other cells or silvers are absorbed into the cell through the cell wall, the membrane of the silver, because actually humans have membranes now, cell walls.

Todd Callender:

So it's brought into the cell where then it gets trapped in that cell once it does its function. Where the micronic silver, the principle we believe how it works is that the high atomic mass for a subatomic particle, when you have your bacteria fungus or virus, you got your micronic silver, when it comes in contact with it, it actually steals the electron pulling it through the cell wall, killing the bacteria fungus or virus on contact. And then the micron, which is still a form of an ion means missing electrons. So when it pulls that electron into the cell, it can't hang onto that electron and it has to eject it out, which ejects it into the bloodstream, giving you energy. Now ours is activated and goes after the next bacteria, fungus or virus for eight to ten hours instead of being a one and done.

Todd Callender:

So I always equate it to like being a fisherman. You you wanna catch a fish, you put a worm on the hook, you cast it out, you pull in that fish, now you gotta rebait the hook and cast out again. Where the micronic silver is like the fishermen throwing a net out there and just pulling in all the fish. And I think that's a representation that most people can understand on form and function of how it works. And also with the micronic silver, the extracellular structure of it, when it comes in contact with a good bacteria, Good bacteria has a milk fat layer protein around it, which is an oil based, which does not allow the water based micronic silver to steal the electron and pull up through the membrane wall.

Todd Callender:

So its function is a dual mode delivery. Ours is not destroyed by stomach acid, the micronic silver, when you swallow it. So you've got the dual mode delivery too. You've got the sublingual delivery under the tongue. And then I'm gonna use the word ingested, it's not technically correct.

Todd Callender:

When you swallow it, it doesn't go through the digestive tract because it's in water. So water is absorbed through the lining of stomach through osmosis, but for layman's term is, you know, an ingested version of it. So ours is a dual mode delivery where the other silvers are a single mode delivery. And it doesn't make those other silvers bad. I mean, they've been around for thousands of years.

Todd Callender:

It's just, this is a new, you know, to me, God given technology that we've been given. That's an all natural process of the product that works. And just by our testimonies of our customers and the amount of customers that reorder our product over and over again. And that's made life changes, know, it saved their pets lives. It's, you know, there's just a whole lot of response to it that it's just a different type of silver that is much more efficient.

Seth Holehouse:

So, you mentioned testimonies. I'll bring up your website, which is micronicsilver.com. So how are people using this? You know, you I know you've got the various, you know, products, which we'll get into. But how are people using it, and what's it doing for them?

Seth Holehouse:

Because I I can see, okay, glucosylver gel from Mike Adams, I burn myself, right, get a little cut, I put it on there. I know it helps to prevent infection and all those things, but, you know, I guess, what is your core product of micronic silver? How does it work? And what are people noticing? Or what is your experience using it?

Seth Holehouse:

What are people's experiences that you're seeing come back to you?

Todd Callender:

Well, silver gel you're talking about is highly effective. It was Doctor. John Richardson in 1967 that invented the silver salzadine that they use in hospitals. And they realized the effectiveness on burns, that the silver helps soothe the burn, helps take the heat out of the burn, and helps repair the cellular damage so you heal faster. You know, the micronic silver is a little bit as different in an aspect where ours promotes the growth of the fibroblast cells, which are your precursor to stem cells.

Todd Callender:

You have 10 times as many, they replicate 10 times faster. And we discovered that based on research by Doctor. Robert Becker in 1986, I'm sorry, Robert Beck in 1986, that was working with the Department of Defense on regrowing limbs for soldiers. And he found that in the right type of silver, that silver will correct cellular malfunction. And the cellular malfunction is when you get a cut, you're mutilating cells.

Todd Callender:

And that's why you get scar tissue. Scar tissue is the replication of mutilated cells. So typically damaged and infected and mutilated cells replicate damaged, infected mutilated cells. Well, he found that in the process of a certain type of silver that it corrects those malfunctions and those damaged, mutilated, affected cells replicate perfect cells. So we've seen with the micronic silver when people use them on wounds, there's actually no scarring, which is fantastic.

Todd Callender:

We had a 90 year old woman who had a skin tear, you can see all way down to her tendons, and I can get you the pictures, you might even have them. You can see down to the tendons. And she was in the hospital for twenty one days. They can't do stitches because the skin's too thin and they can't pull it together. So her daughter pulled her out of the hospital and got her onto micronic silver.

Todd Callender:

And in fourteen days it was healed without even a scar. And that's at 91 years old. But we've seen that over and over again. So the form and function of the micronic silver is just different than the colloidal ionic and nano silver. It goes much further.

Todd Callender:

Typically, if you had an eight ounce bottle of typical colloidal silver or ionic silver, and you took it as a therapeutic daily, their eight ounce bottle, you would have to take it about every hour on the hour, every half an hour, because it only stays in the body active for about six to eight minutes. Once it starts entering a cell, it's active a lot longer, but it's at suspension. With the micronic silver, it's staying in the body for ten to twelve hours. So you're seeing a whole lot different effect for it. So where their eight ounce bottle would be about a week supply, our eight ounce bottles is a 48 supply.

Todd Callender:

So, its function is a lot better in the body. When we have people that travel, my partner Michelle, when she travels, she would take a cork with her. And so, the last cruise ship she was on, almost everybody got sick except for her. And she was just taking a tablespoon once a day when everybody got sick. And people around her, I mean, was out there on the deck all by herself, there was nobody out there because everybody's in their cabin sick and she's like having a great And when you look at our customer testimonies on our website, you'll see people with disease states, you know, Crohn's disease, diverticulosis, ulcerative colitis, fibromyalgia, that have used our product and found not only great relief, but there's a lot of people that got off their medicines.

Todd Callender:

And so we let our customers tell their story about how the micronic silvers work. And the testimonies are a lot different. You know, usually with a colloidal silver, you're gonna hear I was getting a cold, you know, I wasn't feeling good, you know, stuff like that. We've just seen a big difference. We're actually testing our product at two fifty elderly care clinics for wound healing and respiratory issues.

Todd Callender:

Know, myself, was an asthmatic and I was using my Resco inhaler about seven or eight times a day. And anybody that takes those, they know that you get what's called inhaler bound. I mean, it's a steroid, it's used to the steroids in the lungs. You need them to keep them open. And usually that's a sign that you're going to die early because your lungs are not carrying oxygen like they should and you need that steroid to open up the inflammation in the lungs.

Todd Callender:

So typically you just keep using it more and more and more until it becomes less effective.

Seth Holehouse:

Because you were in instruction before, right? So I imagine that you spent decades inhaling all kinds of carcinogens directly into your lungs. Oh my gosh. Even with your mask that you can't avoid it.

Todd Callender:

Yeah. Well, and even in like Chicago, some of those old buildings that were built in the forties and fifties, they had asbestos around the plumbing. You know, and being a 20 year old, you know, guy, I was like, I'm invincible. Oh, yeah. This all this dust isn't gonna affect But yeah, you're right.

Todd Callender:

So I was seeing it that, you know, I was having problems breathing and my partner, she was the same way. She was asthmatic at a different level, but we relied on nebulizations, you know, every night or every, you know, couple days. And then I was lazy, she wouldn't nebulize, I would use my rescue inhaler. But then one thing that the pandemic did is it was like, well, wait a minute, we don't know what this is. So we started nebulizing with the silver and I don't use my inhaler at all anymore and that doesn't happen.

Todd Callender:

So I really believe that Doctor. Beck's research on it, you know, repairing cellular malfunction, I believe that it repaired the function of my lungs. And when I got pneumonia, when I first got into silver, you know, I would have to be on Z Pak and steroids for, you know, like months for my lungs to feel better before they really started carrying the amount of oxygen again. I don't have that issue now. So I can go out, I could jog, I can do stuff.

Todd Callender:

You know, when I was sick before, you know, I'd work in the yard and I could maybe exert myself for like fifteen, twenty minutes and I actually had to sit down and catch my breath. You know, I don't do that anymore and I've never taken the pharmaceutical stuff for my lungs. So, they can't say it was their product that helped. It was like that I've seen that this, and then we started letting people know about it. And you know, we have tons of people now that had asthma or bronchitis or some kind of respiratory issues that got on it.

Todd Callender:

And just had a friend of mine call me today and said she met a woman at the grocery store and they were talking and she mentioned her son has some kind of respiratory issue. And she actually gave her a bottle of our micronic silver and said, Here, nebulize. And the woman was like, The doctor said, It's just got to run its course and stuff. She's like, Well, just try it. She said, I'll even bring you my nebulizer.

Todd Callender:

So Meg took her nebulizer over to her. And like she said, Probably within two hours late, the woman called her and goes, This stuff It was like three minutes and my son, his lungs didn't hurt and he could breathe again. That's what we need to get out there. That's why we need to let people know this. And hopefully with a change in administration, they're going to start passing laws that allow us to speak the truth, that allow us to say, It was our product that did this, that we can put it on our website.

Todd Callender:

Take it this way, take this amount of it. And that's one of the things, especially with silver is they do not allow testing in humans with silver because it works with your immune system. It boosts your immune system. And we need those regulations gone. We need people to start saying, No, we want the truth.

Todd Callender:

If we don't like what the truth is, we're adults, we can handle it, we can adapt. But don't lie to us and get us to make decisions that's not in our own best interest. Don't get us, you know, killing our elderly and affecting our children for the rest of our life based on a lie.

Seth Holehouse:

Exactly, and so with the my chronic sober, so is it that a lot of people just take it daily as like your normal, I guess it kinda makes sense if think about, you know, the again, like, the the the plague time, people that were eating with a silver spoon. I'm sure it's different. Right? I was just, you know, plain silver. I mean, I'm not gonna, like, wake up and, you know, lick my silver every day.

Seth Holehouse:

Right? Maybe I should. Maybe good for me. But so do a lot of people actually, I'll pull the your website one more time so you can kind of walk us through.

Todd Callender:

Yeah. Yeah. It's mymychronicsilver.net or mychronicsilver.com. They both go to the same website.

Seth Holehouse:

Okay. And so, is this right here, just the main one? Just this?

Todd Callender:

That is our flagship product. Yeah, that's the one you can take daily as a preventative because it works with bolstering the immune system. So, I tell people it basically helps your immune system function the way that God intended it to. And it tastes like water.

Seth Holehouse:

Okay, and and walk us through other things, I know you've got a bunch of different stuff on here. Obviously, like we've covered just the daily intake of the silver as just a way I mean, as I see it as just a way of maintaining your health and preventing it. So, you know, like, you know, my wife and I, we both take, not daily, but we both take Laetrile b seventeen pretty often. Not because we have cancer or, you know, just because we're we're constantly our bodies are constantly fighting that, and so that's a way of, hey. Let's get that amygdalin into our systems.

Seth Holehouse:

You know, there's a lot of things that we take, daily that just because, you know, helps us be healthy, actually, we we have been. I mean, our like, almost every family I talk to, they've told me, oh gosh, you know, my my my kids are sick or a whole family was sick. You know, a lot people I talked to that had the COVID vaccine, they're they're, like, they're down for a month. Like, they'll they'll have they've got walking pneumonia and all kinds of stuff. And actually, for us, and we have kids coming through our house all the time.

Seth Holehouse:

You know, my little daughter's out there, you know, playing with the dogs, the dogs are licking their faces or catching chickens or holding goats. In our whole household has just been been healthy as anything. I mean, it's it's it's been pretty amazing because all of our friends are getting sick, and we're just going strong, knock on wood. But so aside from just the the dietary supplement, the main, you thing is gonna take a little bit every day, which makes sense. Walk us through some of the other offerings that you guys have and what these do.

Todd Callender:

Yeah, so when we developed the Micronic Silver, we learned a lot about ozone. And, you know, when you mentioned that the silver cream for the burns and stuff, we actually have this Aleozone, which is 100% ozone. This is the only product we make that doesn't have silver in it, the way. So we became so adept at Ozone Technologies that we're the only people I know of that can trap ozone 100% in oil. Apologize, I keep turning my phone down, don't know why said turn down.

Todd Callender:

So it's 100% ozone trapped in oil. Most other companies or all other companies, when they get about a 60% penetration, it starts degrading the oil. We came up with a way for it not to. So if you get a burn, you put it on there, it actually takes the heat out of the burn immediately. You get a sunburn and you put a little batch on your hand, you can feel the difference and it'll be cool right where you put that.

Todd Callender:

It takes the heat out, stops the sunburn from burning down to the subcutaneous levels of skin where it does all the skin damage. Also for bee stings and bug bites, literally it'll turn to poison to water and oxygen. So for people that don't really know what ozone is, you hear it's an oxious gas and it's dangerous. Ozone is O3, oxygen is O2. It's one extra oxygen molecule difference between ozone and oxygen.

Todd Callender:

And they say, Oh, it's hazardous for you. No, when you breathe in ozone, so if you go into a lab and somebody's doing ozone, it can make your chest hurt a little bit. You can feel it because there's so much oxygen and you have to get used to it. The government said it's a noxious gas, you know, they don't want you to put it in your house. Know, we clean all of our ductworks in our house with ozone because it sterilizes everything.

Todd Callender:

Ozone's function is it turns carbons to water and oxygen. So when you have a pathogen and you got your ozone, when it hits it, it gives up that single nascent ox molecule, turns this to water and oxygen and reverts back to oxygen. So it reverts back to O2. So there's no waste product of it. The misconception that the government's put out there is with ozone in the atmosphere, you talk about holes in the ozone layer, those do not exist.

Todd Callender:

What they're talking about is the absence of hydroxyls, which is ozone plus carbon dioxide. So it's always over a desert where you have no plant life, so you got no carbon dioxide to mix with the ozone. And if there was truly a hole in the ozone layer and you walked in that area, your skin would start blistering, it would start burning from the inside, looks like a microwave. Ozone in our atmosphere, if you've seen pictures of Wuhan, China before the pandemic, you couldn't see a quarter mile, everybody had masks on. Well, when they shut everything down, within three days, you could see the mountains a hundred miles away.

Todd Callender:

Ozone destroyed those pathogens from that exhaust. So ozone is purifying, detoxifying our atmosphere. Every time there's a lightning strike, tens of thousands of metric tons of ozone are being created. That energy going through the water molecules in the air and the atmosphere create ozone.

Seth Holehouse:

On you walk out, and it's the most it's the most beautiful smell is the smell of the air after a lightning storm. And actually and we're we're big believers in ozone. Actually, a good friend of ours had, mold, really bad mold poisoning, and they learned about ozone for mold remediation. And so, you know, my studio is in the basement of our home. Now it's a walkout basement, thankfully, and so it has some, it's easier to manage for that reason.

Seth Holehouse:

However, we have a constant little mini ozone generator that's running twenty four hours a day in our basement, and then on our First Floor of our home, we have one of the the Triad Air. Sure you know Mike Dillon, you know, with, air water healing. We have his, Triad Air, which is generating ozone, low levels of ozone that's running constantly. So in our in our basement, in our main living area, we like, you walk close to you get that slight slight smell of ozone, and and we you know, and in our basement, we have no issues with mold, no issues of musty smell, and even upstairs and, you know, we have the the the Trident Air running, you know, kicking out that ozone, the air just it's it's fresh, not to mention that it's it's actually killing all these pathogens. So, yeah, we're huge believers in ozone.

Todd Callender:

Yeah, you know, the government's again, demonized ozone. Oh, it's an oxious gas, you You may have noticed when you first got that machine, maybe there was a little discomfort at first breathing it because you're not used to the full oxygen. Now it's, you know, I can be in a room with ozone all day long and my lungs got used to it. You know, if you go to a higher elevation in the mountains, you'll have distress in your lungs from the oxygen being thicker or thinner, can't remember which, But that's basically what ozone does. And they said it's just terrible for you.

Todd Callender:

We're seeing people with our product, you know, with the silver stabilizing with ozone and the Lia Zone, you put it on injury. So if you have a pulled muscle, you know, like I've got carpal tunnel in my wrist, you know, I'll put it on there. And within eight minutes, eighty percent of the pain is gone. It reduces pain and inflammation in the body. So this whole lie that, you know, ozone is bad you is ozone is one of the great things that got done.

Todd Callender:

It's the second most potent purifier known to man. The number one is a hydroxyl, but hydroxyls have milliseconds of life. And you know, you mentioned about your ozone generator in your house. So that's obviously not a lightning strike. There's two ways to create ozone.

Todd Callender:

It's a lightning strike going through the atmosphere and that smell, people always say that electric smell afterwards, that's ozone, that's not the electric. And then ultraviolet rays shining through water droplet molecules. And that's how your ozone generator, it uses a UV light to create ultraviolet rays, usually through like a plutonium plate or something like that. And then it creates the ozone and it smells just like after a storm, you walk out there. And I'm always amazed how when people smell bleach and go to them it smells clean.

Todd Callender:

I'm like, that's a toxic chemical that's burning the cilia of the lungs. And people go, oh yeah, that ozone, you know, kind of smells weird. Well, smell ozone right away. I'm like, oh, this is clean.

Seth Holehouse:

Oh, me too. Me too. Actually, I was just talking to wife about this the other day. We have friends at Visitsenheim and and they'll wear these chemical perfumes, and they'll leave the house and we're both like, oh, like, oh, can you believe how much perfume? Like the whole bottom, you know, the whole bottom of the house, you know, floor smells like this perfume.

Seth Holehouse:

It's like, it's like it's like chemicals. It's like you're you're bringing mustard gas in here, but people think it smells good, yet they smell the ozone. Like, what's that? What's that funny smell? Like, that doesn't seem very healthy.

Seth Holehouse:

Again, it's the same theme of what we've been talking about is that they've taken the what's good and what, you know, comes from God's hand, and they've demonized it. They've told us it's bad. It's like sunscreen. Right? It's like they've told us the sun is bad.

Seth Holehouse:

It's gonna kill you. It's gonna give you skin cancer. Make sure you you layer on and you bake these carcinogens that we've put into this cream. You bake them into your skin. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

It's the same thing. It's it's it's it's

Todd Callender:

And your skin's moist. Right? This is good for you. Your skin's moist. Exactly.

Todd Callender:

You know, the average person goes through 27 cycles of cancer in their lifetime. And usually our immune system defeats it. So there's usually some kind of stress factor that causes cancer to proliferate in the body, also with the introduction of sugars. So the best way to fight cancer is get off sugar, starches, and alcohols. They all convert to sugars.

Todd Callender:

The amygdalin, which is, so vitamin B17, the latexol is amygdalin is the chemical composition name of it, and it's highly effective on cancer. You know, if it wasn't for chemotherapy, every hospital would be bankrupt and people don't understand that statement. They rely on that. If you remember when the AIDS scare came out, it was the next big disease. There was big strides to cancer.

Todd Callender:

They said, Oh, we found this, we found that, we found this worse than cancer. When AIDS didn't turn out to be what they thought it was gonna be, what happened to all that research? You know, they've spent $6,000,000,000,000 on cancer research. I'm pretty sure you could build a planet for about $6,000,000,000,000 Or

Seth Holehouse:

you could build a prison on the planet for $6,000,000,000,000, right? Yeah, or you can create a

Todd Callender:

way to lie to everybody in the name of profits.

Seth Holehouse:

Exactly. So back over to your website. So this is the ozone, which I'm gonna order some of this as soon as we finish because we use a lot of CBD cream. So like if, you know, my wife, if she has a sore back or sore shoulders, we're watching a show at night, I'll give her a massage and use some CBD cream, but this seems like it's gonna be really effective. The ozone cream.

Seth Holehouse:

Anything else?

Todd Callender:

I know that we're, you know, we it's so easy to go, we're hitting an hour now, but anything else you wanna highlight as we're wrapping up here? Well, yeah, we have our basically flagship five products. So it's those two, it's the Silva Zone, the topical healing spray, unlike other companies where they take their colloidal silver and they put it in a spray bottle and say, Here, it's different. Our dietary supplement is twenty seven parts per million. We make our topical healing at fifty parts per million, twice as strong because there's amount of evaporation versus penetration.

Todd Callender:

So we wanna make sure you get the full effect of it. You can spray it in the eyes, anywhere in the body. I have allergies, I have a pet white tailed deer named Maxine. And if I go out and pet her and I forget to wash my hands, I touch my eyes, it just really start itching. I'll spray that in my eyes and the itching just starts going away.

Todd Callender:

And then the other product we have is the micronic nasal spray, which is down there on the left. So those are our five products. That's actually called the Silver Bullet Kit. We have it all put together as a bundle, it'll save you about $65 And we say that's everything you need in medicine cabinet. If you go down, you'll hit the Silver Bullet Kit, I believe.

Todd Callender:

The viruses, there it is on the right, the viruses incubate in the nasal passages. So your first line of defense for anything is spraying the micronic silver in your sinuses, and that's gonna help cut out a lot of the viruses or viral aspect of what people are gonna have. So this right here is probably, the Micronix Silver by itself is our number one selling thing, but the silver bullet kits, we sell a lot of them. It's a good way for people to try the different products. We tell people the dietary supplement and the nasal spray are pretty much the same product.

Todd Callender:

So when you run out of the nasal spray, you can use the dietary supplement as a refill, it's a lot cheaper that way. The nasal spray, we invested in very, very good sprayers. They have a very strong plume when you spray it. And actually John Richardson does this every day with RNC. He sprays a spray in his nostril, that sprayer I got because you can hit the back of the throat.

Todd Callender:

Sore throat start at the top of the back of the throat, so when you drink a liquid, it runs down the So he'll spray it in his mouth and then he puts a spray in each ear and nobody in his family has gotten sick over the last year and a half since he's been doing it.

Seth Holehouse:

Incredible, incredible. So this is Silver Bullet Kit. The well, I guess, final question as we're we're wrapping up. I'm I'm a big prepper. Right?

Seth Holehouse:

And I'm all about looking, okay, what can I do now that, let's say, in the future, I don't have access to medicine? So one of the big questions I have is how shelf stable are these? Because I know for a lot of things, you know, even all the antibiotics, you give me the powder form, but you know, I'm also I'm not a big fan of having antibiotics in perspective that destroys your gut bacteria. There's all kinds of bad things. However, it's good to have a stock of some antibiotics in case, you know, worst case scenario.

Seth Holehouse:

It's good to have that, but looking at the role that my chronic silver plays, especially as a dietary supplement to me, this is like, okay, perfect, but one of the questions I have is that if I buy, you know, because it's I tend to do things a little overboard, I'll find, oh, this is good product. Maybe buy 15 of them, and I'll store them all in my storage area. So what is the shelf life, of these products? I know that, you know, you may not know exactly how long because you have been doing this for fifty years and say, yeah, we have we have products from fifty years ago. They're still working perfectly.

Seth Holehouse:

But, you know, I'm sure scientifically, can make some assertations about that. So what is the shelf life of these products? That's really important.

Todd Callender:

The neat thing about it is it's a mineral that doesn't dissipate. The advantage of the micronic silver is it doesn't lose its ionic charge. So, tell people it's got a ten year shelf life, specifically because they make us put that it's got a shelf life. But I've got bottles that I made in 2012 that are still on my shelf that I test every now and then because I wanna see the longevity of it. And they're specking out exactly the same as when I put them in there.

Todd Callender:

And we've had a lot of people ask about glass jars because we put them in the medical grade plastic jars. Well, the reason we can do that is the stability of the micronic silver. It's not pulling anything, it's not leaching. And that's one of the things we check the bottles for. And that's actually why I kept the bottles because I wanted to see if there was an aspect of it.

Todd Callender:

And there's actually zero leaching from those medical bottles. Shipping weight is less, so if people are ordering bigger batches of product, they're gonna get less in shipping. And also the insurance is more on glass bottles because if there's a fragmental chip in the glass itself, and a lot of times when they make the bottles, there's glass dust in there, it can actually cause tears in the lining of the lungs. So we chose to, we used to have glass bottles when we started and we offered our customers a choice of glass or plastic. And when it came down to it cost wise, they would have much rather had the plastic than the glass.

Todd Callender:

And I've still got about 100 bottles left over from 2012 that are the blue glass bottles. We can put them in clear bottles, and I actually used to have in clear bottles. You can't do that with colloidal on a granola silver. It's got to be kept away from sunlight. We chose the blue bottles just because they look really good, and it looked really good with the labels with the blue bottle.

Todd Callender:

And when we did it, nobody else was really doing it. So I noticed that there's a lot of other companies now that have started to put theirs on blue bottles and touting the aspects of glass. It doesn't make a difference with our product because it's not going to react with anything in plastic itself. And it is truly BPH free medical grade.

Seth Holehouse:

That makes sense. So, again, website is micronicsilver.com. There's all kinds of here, you know, reviews, about, you know, contact. You you know, you've been very responsive, you know, in all the interactions I've had with you and your company. We also we have a discount code set up for people, which is a great way of just helping support the show.

Seth Holehouse:

So, obviously, supporting you and giving an extra discount to the Man in America audience. So I think it's Seth, s e t h, is the discount code, which will get a discount off their purchase, which everyone loves discounts, especially when they're already discounted, as a package. And so I'll put the information for that in the description of the show, just my chronicsilver.com, promo code Seth. And, Jeff, any any final thoughts as we're we're wrapping up here?

Todd Callender:

Know, become educated. You know, research, don't take what I say is gospel. Go look stuff up and don't just go to the homepage of what somebody's saying out there. Start doing research and you'll find out that much like you, you know, you're interested in the truth. You know, if the truth doesn't turn out to be what you want it to be, it's not gonna stop you from speaking the truth.

Todd Callender:

You're gonna find a way of something that's gonna be better for people than that entity that you searched out and thought you were disappointed in. So, have to educate themselves, you know, learn about general health, learn how the body works. You know, if you feel something, when you take something, if you feel something, that's a real feeling in your body. Why is it acting that way? Or why it working this way?

Todd Callender:

And, you know, we have not changed our prices. So, when we made the first bottle of Micronix Silver was in 2012, we have not upped the price. It's the same price as it's always been and we wanna do that going forward. So, we're not in this quote to make money. I mean, yes, we wanna make a living.

Todd Callender:

Yes, at some point I'm going to wanna retire. I mean, is a business, but our goal is really helping people to take control of their own health, learn the truth. And that's why we recommend other people's products. Why if there's something that doesn't work, we're not gonna blow smoke and try to tell you our product does something that doesn't do. Our products work very well for what we do.

Todd Callender:

We have 86 to 89% customer reorder rate of our products at least three times. So, we let our customers speak for us. A lot of your listeners were surprised when they called the number on there and I picked up the phone. We believe in customer service. We believe that part of the healing process is called neuropsychomology.

Todd Callender:

It's the study of the body's auditory system, immune response to the auditory system. So, when you have a concern you're really worried about, when you can talk to somebody and they're gonna say, Okay, this is what you can expect. And they get what they expected, that builds confidence. And confidence builds your immune So when a person's diagnosed with cancer and if they have a grim outlook, their immune system can shut down by 25%. And that's part of that neuropsychomology.

Todd Callender:

Where at the same point, if they're a person of faith or a person that says, I'm gonna beat this, I'm gonna get over it, their immune system can build up by 25%. That's a 50% swing in immunity. So whether you're looking at an all natural product or a pharmaceutical derived product, that boost in immune system can be the difference between catastrophic failure and healing.

Seth Holehouse:

Oh, I remember, I lost my brother to cancer back in 2015. He was 33. He had a non Hodgkin's lymphoma, had a big tumor, and it was really quite a nightmare as you would imagine. But I remember at 1.1 of the doctors said as you know they tried getting rid of it and they did chemo and radiation, this is well before I knew about any of this stuff unfortunately, and they told at one point they said you've got about I think they said they gave him sixty days or so, you know, because you ask okay, okay, know, the natural question is, okay, look, this tumor is advancing, it's getting worse and worse. The things we've done to stop it couldn't work.

Seth Holehouse:

Did radiation, they did chemotherapy, of course, they weren't giving him amygdalin, of course, they weren't giving him red light therapy. And and his hospital bill, I think, was $1,300,000. So it makes sense. Right? They made a lot of money off of him, and they told him I can go sixty days, and I think on literally on the sixtieth day, he had a massive heart attack at 11:00 and just died instantly.

Seth Holehouse:

That's it. That was that was the end. It was it was as if is this part of his psychology or as part of his thinking, his subconscious knew that, okay, well, doctor said this, so we're gonna make sure that we follow the advice of the doctor, And it was on day 60, that was it. And like that's that's how powerful, this is. And so I think that that's why I love these conversations is that I think what it's doing is it's breaking that fear based psychology, the fear based mechanism that's been put into us through advertising, through everything they've done.

Seth Holehouse:

And for us to think that like, well, okay, if this happens, I can deal with it this way. These are all these great things I can do that are preventative, that are not gonna destroy my kidneys and my liver from the over medication and poisoning with synthetic drugs. And so I appreciate this conversation and what you're doing. And again, I'll pull your the website one more time, mychronicsilver.com, and promo code Seth. So I appreciate everything that you're doing and I really enjoy these conversations, Jeff.

Todd Callender:

Oh, me too. And we also have mychronicsilver.net. So don't worry if you pick up the wrong website. You know, they both go to the same one. We're here to help you.

Todd Callender:

We want to help you get healthy on your journey to health. We answer a lot of questions like, you know, about, like you said, about cancer. Keep in mind, no disease can live in a pure oxygen, in a pure alkaline environment, you know. And if you, you know, are worried about cancer, look up the cancer drugs that they recommend. They're all antifungals, yet they won't call cancer a fungus.

Todd Callender:

You know, that says volumes to me because that shows me there's no such thing as a cancer cell. It's an infected cell and you can treat that cell for its infection and get rid of its infection. But you have to start off by getting off the chemicals that they want you to take. And that's the scary part is that's how they get you afraid. You know, like your brother, Well, I got sixty days, why better jump on pharmaceuticals?

Todd Callender:

You you get off sugar, starches and alcohols in stage four cancer, you know, usually you're gonna get at least a year. And here you have doctors saying, Well, you know, you've got three months to live. And there was a drug out there they said significantly extends the lifespan of a person going through chemotherapy. It was thirty three days. So that can be a drug, but this can't be a drug and this will give you at least a year.

Seth Holehouse:

And what's worse is, and he had a very complicated case that was actually malpractice that ended up causing a brain injury, so he a trach and a stomach tube, and what they're feeding him in the hospital was Ensure. So Abbott Labs out of Ohio where I grew up, and looked at the ingredient number one ingredient is high fructose corn syrup. So here you have a cancer patient, and you're you're pumping that his stomach full of high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup solids. You look at the ingredient list. Actually, I'll pull it up.

Seth Holehouse:

I'm I'm actually curious. Let me let me just

Todd Callender:

Yeah. And and what people don't realize is high fructose corn syrup by itself isn't the demon, it's that corn is stored in silos and is 90% fungus. So you're putting a fungal sweetener in somebody's diet who has cancer, which I believe is a fungal infection.

Seth Holehouse:

It's absolutely incredible. Actually looking at just some of these Insure packages, they're different as they've kind of evolved, but you know, remember the Insure they're feeding him. He's looking at some of these different ingredients here. Actually, here, friends, here here's one of the unsure, ones. These are probably one of some of the healthier ones.

Seth Holehouse:

So ingredients, water, corn, melodextrin, sugar, milk protein concentrate, blend of vegetable oils, canola, corn oil, soy protein isolate, cocoa powder processed with alkali, you know, all kinds of other things, nonfat milk, cellulose gel, natural and artificial flavors, salt. I mean, you look at all this stuff and just like, oh my goodness. I remember looking at this stuff they're feeding him, and, like, the the first ingredient was high fructose corn syrup. And the fact that, you know, we know sugar feeds cancer, it just it's just it's almost as if there is this conspiracy to make you even more sick in the hospital. I mean, Maybe I'm I'm I'm

Todd Callender:

we we go forward to And and somewhere in there was prob it was probably polyethylene glycols probably in there. Which is antifreeze. And what I tell people is next time you're gonna take something like that, look at the ingredients and think to yourself, would I pour this one ingredients on a spoon and take it? Exactly. Mean, that's what you're putting your body.

Todd Callender:

I mean, that's the same thing with the vaccines. Doctor. Henry Ely is really good about explaining it to people with the vaccinations. He'll bring out the chemicals in it and say, I want you to go this website and look up each chemical, what it is. Now, I put that on a spoon, would you drink it?

Todd Callender:

But you're gonna let them inject it into your body.

Seth Holehouse:

What's skin? Into your infant.

Todd Callender:

Well, that's where the really demon came out is they were getting people so afraid that they're willing to inject their children. And when the side effects happen, these children died, you're never gonna take that parent and get them to believe that that product was bad because they did it to their children. No parent can accept that. So, that's, again, they did the psychological aspect of all this stuff so they understand the conversion of people. And those people, you're never gonna be able to convince that it was that vaccination that killed their children because they volunteered for

Seth Holehouse:

it. Exactly. And how do you even know? The thing is, is like, you know, your kid's two years old and they, you know, have a bit ADHD, they're a little bit autistic. How do you even know that that kid wouldn't have been like that if on day one, you shove them full of all kinds of heavy metals and and antifreeze and chemicals?

Seth Holehouse:

You'll never know what that kid would have been like if they hadn't been given that stuff. So anyway Yeah, every

Todd Callender:

baby goes through 72 vaccinations. I mean, that's insane. One for a couple for sexually transmitted diseases. What's going on in those mysteries? Doctor.

Todd Callender:

That's crazy. Doctor. We could talk for hours.

Seth Holehouse:

Know, I know. Not my children. So anyway, actually, I'll I'll pull up really quickly this, you know, on the on the subject of of children because, I just put these photos out, and it makes me so happy. So we, I think I put on my Twitter here that we're we're getting some goats soon in here. I think I've got some pictures on my Twitter feed.

Seth Holehouse:

Here we go. Right down here. Too busy kind of exposing all of the lies. Yeah. Here we go.

Seth Holehouse:

There's my little ones. Right? So we're we're getting some goats soon. So there's my little four year old June, who's quite the handful, but again, she's she's brilliant. And then my my little cutie.

Seth Holehouse:

Little Gracie, who's who's a year old. And these are the goats that we're we're getting some goats soon. These little, dwarf goats. So, yep.

Todd Callender:

They but neither of

Seth Holehouse:

them have ever seen an injection and nor will they.

Todd Callender:

But see, that's the thing that exposure to that, that's how your immune system builds. It builds like an onion. So when you're a baby, people used to invite people over to kiss their baby so that they could have some exposure to whatever bacteria or disease state they had. And your immunity builds like an onion, so you put layer after layer after layer on it. And that's the important stuff for a whole lifetime immunity.

Todd Callender:

The problem is with the pharmaceuticals is they have to strip that so that their medicines can work. With natural, you don't to do it. It works with your immune system. It's building your immune system. And this is why those superbugs and the MRSA and those things come out is because of stuff like the medicines that they give you that only work on certain aspects and leave your body with an acidic environment instead of an alkaline environment.

Seth Holehouse:

Exactly. Well, Jeff, it's been great speaking with you. I've really enjoyed this conversation. Look forward to doing it again. And thank you for what you're doing and just, yeah, take care and God bless you.

Todd Callender:

Well, until next time. Thank you, Seth, and we'll talk soon.

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