How We Work - with Iso Rabins

In this week's episode, we're circling back to a topic that's becoming a bit of a regular on our podcast – Artificial Intelligence. But here's the twist: this entire episode is AI-generated, including what sounds like my voice! 

We're diving deep into the world of AI and its impact on art. I'll be sharing my musings on the complex relationship between artificial intelligence and human creativity. Think about it – art that moves you, stories that resonate, all crafted not by human hands but by AI. How does that change the way we view creativity?

We'll touch on classics like "East of Eden" by Steinbeck and ponder over what AI-generated art could mean for future creatives. It's an intriguing blend of technology, art, and human emotion – a trio that's increasingly becoming more intertwined.

This AI-generated episode really pushes the envelope, and I can't wait to hear what you think about it. Has AI changed your perspective on art and creativity? Drop us a message; your thoughts are always a vital part of our discussions.

And remember, if you find these AI explorations as fascinating as I do, spread the word and share the podcast. Your support helps us keep these conversations going!

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What is How We Work - with Iso Rabins?

A podcast about what we do, why we do it, and what we think. Explore the interesting and unique ways people create their lives, from artists and entrepreneurs to fishermen and wild salmon counters. Discover what they've learned along the way, both in their work and in their lives. Hosted by Iso Rabins

iso-future post: Hello, How
We Work fam, thanks for taking

the time to listen today.

So for this episode, I'm
trying something new.

This post is about creativity and
the future of our creating with AI.

I wrote it following some thinking and
conversations I’ve had recently about

this podcast, creativity, and the future.

I thought it was a good opportunity
to give my voice to AI as well.

This voice is an AI-generated
copy of my voice.

It's not perfect by any means,
but does sound a lot like me, and

took about one minute to create.

Onto the post!

This podcast, in some ways,
has no inherent value.

Now, I'm not getting down on myself about
it, I like to make it, and some folks

like to listen to it, but it doesn’t.

I don’t make money from it, so it has no
value as we value things in our culture.

The value is, to me at least, to
get my voice out into the world, to

share some piece of me with others.

Like all art, its purpose is to share
my thoughts and feelings with the

world, and in doing that, find people
who think and feel the same way.

Isn’t that what all art is really about?

Trying to make a representation of your
thoughts or emotions, and hoping that

there are people out there that like it?

And by liking it, they show that
they are like you, making you

feel less alone, and at the same
time helping them feel less alone?

We come together at concerts to
be around people who feel how we

feel about the art being created.

It’s an incredibly beautiful idea,
and one of the few things that

bring us together in this way.

A good book doesn’t just convey
information but teaches you something

about yourself and other humans.

Every time we see good art, we
understand ourselves better.

And what if that goes away?

What if all the art you love in the future
wasn’t created by a person, but by an AI?

If you feel something when you
look at a painting done by a

machine, what value does that have?

It’s still the same feeling, and the
AI created it by mashing together

lots of other paintings that would
make you feel a similar emotion, but

what value does it actually have?

The value is not in the
feeling but in the connection.

It’s in the knowledge that
there is another human out

there who understands you.

I remember reading East
of Eden, by Steinbeck.

It’s an amazing book
that I highly recommend.

I remember putting down the book
and literally thinking I couldn’t

believe that another person could
have written something so good.

There was something transcendent about
the stories that I was so moved by.

The thing is though, another
human did write them.

And my knowledge of that raised
my opinion of human capability

generally, and by proxy, my capability.

When you see another human
create something spectacular,

you know that in some way it’s
possible for you to do the same.

Maybe not a book, or a
painting, but something.

That, even if you don’t
do it, it's possible.

Now, what if you read a
masterpiece created by AI?

You still enjoy the book of course,
a good story is a good story.

But what is it really teaching you?

I'm sure the AI book will have some
of the same lessons as other books,

as AI is trained on all of us, and our
experiences and emotions are not that

unique, but you’ll know the whole time
that it's not a person talking to you.

So what’s the value?

It's entertainment.

Not that there is anything wrong
with entertainment, but it’s

not art that can speak to you.

Or this podcast.

I'm not going to equate my podcast
for one minute with East of

Eden, but this podcast is my art.

The point is to share my experience.

To be open and vulnerable as much as
possible, and by doing so, help other

people who might be struggling with
some of the things I'm struggling with,

to feel less alone in those struggles.

If I use another voice, an
AI-generated voice, like I am,

does that make it less my art?

If instead of writing this, I just asked
GPT to write a 500-word essay on the

perils of art in the age of artificial
intelligence, would it still be me?

And when we live in a world where we’re
never sure if the art we’re looking at

is made by another person, or the voice
we’re hearing came out of someone's

mouth, where will we go for those lessons
we learn about ourselves from books?

Or to gather together to feel less
alone when we listen to music?

I don’t really know.

I'm not an AI pessimist, I'm sure
it’ll all shake out in some way that

is not so dire, but as I see more
AI-generated art that is frankly amazing,

or when I look at images of beautiful
scenery and can’t be sure whether

it's real or fake, it makes me wonder.

Where are we headed with all this?

In a world where it’s already
incredibly hard to get your voice

out there, how will we compete
with flawless AI-generated content?

Is that a world where East of
Eden even gets published, or where

Steinbeck gives up writing because
publishers don’t have the money to pay

real authors and he ends up working
the checkout line at Whole Foods?

I guess we’ll see… Another way
to look at all this is that

maybe this is just our evolution.

We've been feeding ourselves into
the internet for years, what it

is to be human in all our ways.

Our pains, our loves, our
desires, our rants, our vacations.

It’s like we were downloading
ourselves into this hive mind,

and now we're waking it up.

Because that's what AI is, it's all of us.

It’s the sum total of all our tweets
and blog posts and movie reviews and

travelogues and although Google wouldn’t
tell us this, probably our emails.

It’s like a child that we've been
teaching what it is to be human.

So in some sense, the art it
creates is a vision of all of us.

Each painting or blog post it makes
has just a tiny part of you in it.

Some more, some less, but
some relation is there.

Maybe it’s the best kind of art.

Because rather than being a
reflection of one person, it’s

a reflection of all people.

All balled up and filtered, the
relations between bits of information

mapped and remapped, until it creates
something that none of us could

create, but is created by everyone.

It’s beautiful in a way.

Like a beehive.

A creation of not any one bee calling
the shots, but of all bees together.

Each putting in their small contribution,
without knowledge of the whole, they

create something larger than themselves.

Maybe that’s what
artificial intelligence is.

It’s our beehive.

We've been working all this time, as a
species, to build it, and now it’s here.

So amazing and so terrifying, but at
the same time, what an achievement,

what a spectacular piece of
art, even if it is our last one.

Hello, How We Work fam, thanks for
taking the time to listen today.

So for this episode, I'm
trying something new.

This post is about creativity and
the future of our creating with AI.

I wrote it following some thinking and
conversations I’ve had recently about

this podcast, creativity, and the future.

I thought it was a good opportunity
to give my voice to AI as well.

This voice is an AI-generated
copy of my voice.

It's not perfect by any means,
but does sound a lot like me, and

took about one minute to create.

Onto the post!

This podcast, in some ways,
has no inherent value.

Now, I'm not getting down on myself about
it, I like to make it, and some folks

like to listen to it, but it doesn’t.

I don’t make money from it, so it has no
value as we value things in our culture.

The value is, to me at least, to
get my voice out into the world, to

share some piece of me with others.

Like all art, its purpose is to share
my thoughts and feelings with the

world, and in doing that, find people
who think and feel the same way.

Isn’t that what all art is really about?

Trying to make a representation of your
thoughts or emotions, and hoping that

there are people out there that like it?

And by liking it, they show that
they are like you, making you

feel less alone, and at the same
time helping them feel less alone?

We come together at concerts to
be around people who feel how we

feel about the art being created.

It’s an incredibly beautiful idea,
and one of the few things that

bring us together in this way.

A good book doesn’t just convey
information but teaches you something

about yourself and other humans.

Every time we see good art, we
understand ourselves better.

And what if that goes away?

What if all the art you love in the future
wasn’t created by a person, but by an AI?

If you feel something when you
look at a painting done by a

machine, what value does that have?

It’s still the same feeling, and the
AI created it by mashing together

lots of other paintings that would
make you feel a similar emotion, but

what value does it actually have?

The value is not in the
feeling but in the connection.

It’s in the knowledge that
there is another human out

there who understands you.

I remember reading East
of Eden, by Steinbeck.

It’s an amazing book
that I highly recommend.

I remember putting down the book
and literally thinking I couldn’t

believe that another person could
have written something so good.

There was something transcendent about
the stories that I was so moved by.

The thing is though, another
human did write them.

And my knowledge of that raised
my opinion of human capability

generally, and by proxy, my capability.

When you see another human
create something spectacular,

you know that in some way it’s
possible for you to do the same.

Maybe not a book, or a
painting, but something.

That, even if you don’t
do it, it's possible.

Now, what if you read a
masterpiece created by AI?

You still enjoy the book of course,
a good story is a good story.

But what is it really teaching you?

I'm sure the AI book will have some
of the same lessons as other books,

as AI is trained on all of us, and our
experiences and emotions are not that

unique, but you’ll know the whole time
that it's not a person talking to you.

So what’s the value?

It's entertainment.

Not that there is anything wrong
with entertainment, but it’s

not art that can speak to you.

Or this podcast.

I'm not going to equate my podcast
for one minute with East of

Eden, but this podcast is my art.

The point is to share my experience.

To be open and vulnerable as much as
possible, and by doing so, help other

people who might be struggling with
some of the things I'm struggling with,

to feel less alone in those struggles.

If I use another voice, an
AI-generated voice, like I am,

does that make it less my art?

If instead of writing this, I just asked
GPT to write a 500-word essay on the

perils of art in the age of artificial
intelligence, would it still be me?

And when we live in a world where we’re
never sure if the art we’re looking at

is made by another person, or the voice
we’re hearing came out of someone's

mouth, where will we go for those lessons
we learn about ourselves from books?

Or to gather together to feel less
alone when we listen to music?

I don’t really know.

I'm not an AI pessimist, I'm sure
it’ll all shake out in some way that

is not so dire, but as I see more
AI-generated art that is frankly amazing,

or when I look at images of beautiful
scenery and can’t be sure whether

it's real or fake, it makes me wonder.

Where are we headed with all this?

In a world where it’s already
incredibly hard to get your voice

out there, how will we compete
with flawless AI-generated content?

Is that a world where East of
Eden even gets published, or where

Steinbeck gives up writing because
publishers don’t have the money to pay

real authors and he ends up working
the checkout line at Whole Foods?

I guess we’ll see… Another way
to look at all this is that

maybe this is just our evolution.

We've been feeding ourselves into
the internet for years, what it

is to be human in all our ways.

Our pains, our loves, our
desires, our rants, our vacations.

It’s like we were downloading
ourselves into this hive mind,

and now we're waking it up.

Because that's what AI is, it's all of us.

It’s the sum total of all our tweets
and blog posts and movie reviews and

travelogues and although Google wouldn’t
tell us this, probably our emails.

It’s like a child that we've been
teaching what it is to be human.

So in some sense, the art it
creates is a vision of all of us.

Each painting or blog post it makes
has just a tiny part of you in it.

Some more, some less, but
some relation is there.

Maybe it’s the best kind of art.

Because rather than being a
reflection of one person, it’s

a reflection of all people.

All balled up and filtered, the
relations between bits of information

mapped and remapped, until it creates
something that none of us could

create, but is created by everyone.

It’s beautiful in a way.

Like a beehive.

A creation of not any one bee calling
the shots, but of all bees together.

Each putting in their small contribution,
without knowledge of the whole, they

create something larger than themselves.

Maybe that’s what
artificial intelligence is.

It’s our beehive.

We've been working all this time, as a
species, to build it, and now it’s here.

So amazing and so terrifying, but at
the same time, what an achievement,

what a spectacular piece of
art, even if it is our last one.

Hello how we work fam, thanks for
taking the time to listen today.

So for this episode Im
trying something new.

this post is about creativity.

and the future of our creating with AI.

I wrote it following some thinking and
conversations I’ve had recently about

this podcast, creativity, and the future.

I thought it was a good opportunity
to give my voice to ai as well.

This voice is an AI
generated copy of my voice.

Its not perfect by any means,
but does sound a lot like me, and

took about one minute to create.

Onto the post!

This podcast in some ways
has no inherent value.

Now Im not getting down on myself about
it, I like to make it, and some folks

like to listen to it, but it doesn’t.

I don’t make money from it, so it has no
value as we value things in our culture.

The value is, to me at least, to
get my voice out into the world, to

share some piece of me with others.

Like all art, its purpose is to share
my thoughts and feelings with the

world, and in doing that, find people
who think and feel the same way.

Isn’t that what all art is really about?

Trying to make a representation of your
thoughts or emotions, and hope that

there are people out there that like it?

And by liking it, they show that
they are like you, making you

feel less alone, and at the same
time helping them feel less alone?

We come together at concerts to be
around the people who feel how we

feel about the art being created.

It’s an incredibly beautiful idea,
and one of the few things that

brings us together in this way.

A good book doesn’t just convey
information, but teaches you something

about yourself and other humans.

Every time we see good art, we
understand ourselves better.

And what if that goes away?

What if all the art you love in the future
wasn’t created by a person, but by an AI?

If you feel something when you
look at a painting done by a

machine, what value does that have?

It’s still the same feeling, and the
ai created it by mashing together

lots of other paintings that would
make you feel a similar emotion, but

what value does it actually have?

The value is not in the
feeling but in the connection.

It’s in the knowledge that
there is another human out

there who understands you.

I remember reading East
of Eden, by Steinbeck.

It’s amazing book that I highly recommend.

I remember putting down the book
and literally thinking I couldn’t

believe that another person could
have written something so good.

There was something transcendent about
the stories that I was so moved by.

The thing is though, another
human did write them.

And my knowledge of that raised
my opinion of human capability

generally, and by proxy, my capability.

When you see another human
create something spectacular,

you know that in some way it’s
possible for you to do the same.

Maybe not a book, or a
painting, but something.

That, even if you don’t
do it, its possible.

Now, what if you read a
masterpiece created by AI?

You still enjoy the book of course,
a good story is a good story.

But what is it really teaching you?

Im sure the AI book will have some of
the same lessons as other books, as

AI is trained on all of us, and our
experiences and emotions are not that

unique, but you’ll know the whole time
that its not a person talking to you.

So what’s the value?

Its entertainment.

Not that there Is anything wrong
with entertainment, but it’s

not art that can speak to you.

Or this podcast.

Im not going to equate my podcast
for one minute with east of

eden, but this podcast is my art.

The point is to share my experience.

To be open and vulnerable as much as
possible, and by doing so, help other

people who might be struggling with
some of the things Im struggling with,

to feel less alone in those struggles.

If I use another voice, an AI
generated voice, like I am,

does that make it less my art?

If instead of writing this, I just asked
GPT to write a 500 word essay on the

perils of art in the age of artificial
intelligence, would it still be me?

And when we live in a world where we’re
never sure if the art we’re looking

at is made from another person, or the
voice we’re hearing came out of someones

mouth, where will we go for those lessons
we learn about ourselves from books?

Or to gather together to feel less
alone when we listen to music?

I don’t really know.

Im not an AI pessimist, Im sure it’ll
all shake out in some way that is

not so dire, but as I see more AI
generated art that is frankly amazing,

or when I look at images of beautiful
scenery and can’t be sure whether

its real or fake, it makes me wonder.

Where are we headed with all this?

In a world where it’s already
incredibly hard to get your voice

out there, how will we compete
with flawless AI generated content?

Is that a world where east of
eden even gets published, or where

Steinbeck gives up writing because
publishers don’t have the money to pay

real authors and he ends up working
the checkout line at Whole Foods?

I guess we’ll see… Another way
to look at all this is that

maybe this is just our evolution.

We've been feeding ourselves
into the internet for years.

what it is to be human in all our ways.

Our pains, our loves, our
desires, our rants, our vacations.

Its like we were downloading
ourselves into this hive mind,

and now we're waking it up.

Because thats what AI is, its all of us.

Its the sum total of all our tweets
and blog posts and movie reviews and

travelouges and although google wouldnt
tell us this, probably our emails.

Its like a child that we've been
teaching what it is to be human.

So in some sense, the art it
creates is a vision of all of us.

Each painting or blogpost it makes
has just a tiny part of you in it.

Some more, some less, but
some relation is there.

Maybe its the best kind of art.

Because rather than being a
reflection of one person, its

a reflection of all people.

All balled up and filtered, the
relations between bits of information

mapped and remapped, until it creates
something that none of us could

create, but is created by everyone.

Its beautiful in a way.

Like a beehive.

A creation of not any one bee calling
the shots, but of all bees together.

Each putting in their small contribution,
without knowledge of the whole, they

create something larger than themselves.

Maybe thats what
artificial intelligence is.

Its our beehive.

We've been working all this time, as a
species, to build it, and now its here.

So amazing and so terrifying,
but at the same time, what an

achievement, what spectacular piece
of art, even if it is our last one.