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Navigating the Journey
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The content of this program does not reflect the views or opinions of 91.5 jazz and more the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, or the Board of Regents of the Nevada System of Higher Education. Black ball, triple seven Productions presents the black ball. Triple seven productions, podcast, Faith knowledge and College edition,
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this program has been brought to you by black ball point triple seven predictions. Now here is your host, the black ball himself. What's up? This is the black ball. Back at it again here with a bonus episode. Yes, we're gonna take a break from InterVarsity. We're going on an InterVarsity hiatus because Jesus is coming back pretty soon, which means I want to, I had the idea of talking about heaven. Well, technically, speculation is about heaven. So I'm gonna give another disclaimer, in addition to the one that you are you literally just heard. I will let you know if something is a fact or an opinion or speculation, because most of this episode is gonna be based on speculation. So that's a that's a disclaimer out of the way, and, uh Oh, before I end the before I move on, please take everything you hear to the Lord, meaning look in the Bible, or pray about it until he gives you an answer. May not be something audible or Yeah, because most people who don't identify may think it's something audible, but it's not, it's not like that all the time. So yeah, Jesus, like I said before, Jesus is coming back, it ain't gonna be this day or that day that someone predicts, like the 80s, 2000s to 2012, 2017, whatever someone predicts. No one's gonna get that right. So I figured I'd try to make things exciting, exciting to talk about it. But before we, before we go on to details, I want to, uh, gone start off with our first subject. And of course, I've got my bro, JoJo, and my other bro case, who's also another guest. So no, let's start off by talking about the motive. Why should we want to be in heaven? So, folks, we can all agree Jesus is the primary reason of being of going to heaven, right? Yes, of course, yeah. Because a lot of people, they just think, even, even people in the church, I'm speaking to myself here, I often think about, I can't wait to see my mansion. I can't wait to see this or that. But first and foremost, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, because sometimes people seem to keep their expectations up high, and it's not we have to put our primary focus on Jesus, because he's the reason why we're going there in the first place.
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Yeah, I think that um, like heaven is um, Heaven is a promise line. So, like, when you look at you know how Heaven is, or what heaven like in the Old Testament, um, God had this promise for us that we would be able to be protected under him, that we will have a place of of just pros, like prosperity, without prosperity, but just to to be able to share like happiness and be one with God. That's the promised land. First it was the Garden of Eden, and then after Adam sinned, then it became the land of milk and honey, I believe. And then it was the land of Canaan. And so the Israelites were being hard headed. So every time I think of the Israelites, I think of us, because, like, you know, we,
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we definitely can be a little bit, you know, we can be, we can be hard headed. Sometimes, I think we can all agree, but, um, the heaven, heaven, to me, I
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believe, is a place that God promised for us, to be able to just be with him in Paradise, and to be able to just, uh, not have to worry about anything. I have to worry about thirsty or being thirsty or having to be hungry for something.
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These are facts for these are facts, first and foremost, like those. Yeah, we won't. We won't have to deal with any thirst, hunger, no sadness, no sorrow, no death. Thank God for that. We'll live. People want to talk about AI trying to get us to live forever, no, like we don't even need, we don't even need that in heaven, like we will, we'll be living forever and ever. Oh yeah, alrighty. So we're gonna be talking about nature, that nature in heaven. So I can't say if any of this is fact, but I've heard this from at least two sources that walking around in heaven like he could see the grass, like sparkling, like glistening, like diamonds and the plants and flowers, like the flowers, just like opening up their petals, like music coming out of them, singing and interacting to your presence, like the trees and the plants and stuff with them, like I. I'm gonna gum go take this to another subject. But could you imagine, just like giving, giving someone the flowers that this that just open up their petals right in front of their faces? Like, could you
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I think that? Like, when I think of nature, I don't know. I don't know. Sometimes I think of like, like, Heavenly Nature. So, like, you know how, like, when it says in the word like, like, you'll see Jesus sitting on like the second, like the second hand of the like the father. Or you'll see Jesus sitting on the second hand, or second right hand of the Father. Like, I think of Heavenly Nature, meaning, I think of like, how, uh, like, grandiose The atmosphere is, it's very, very, it's something like, very, very, um, something that, like, our human bodies could not even, like, take, you know, saying, I really do feel like it's something like that, um, I really also do feel like because it's so big and grandiose, it's also so, like, wholesome, like, so breath taken, it's like you're amazed, like you're you're forever amazed you know at everything that you know heaven can be, you know, um, just like, how, like when you walk into a scenery and it looks so good, like he might go on vacation, and you're like, oh, wow, wow, wow, wow. But that doesn't satisfy you, because you want to see more. I think heaven is actually something that you see you can see only, like one time, and you're like, Whoa. Like, this satisfies me
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instantly. I think that. But you still want to see more,
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but you still want to see more, but it's different because there's a heavenly nature to it. You feel me, so, yeah, you
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know, like, like Jabri said earlier, like, this is not a fact, but an opinion. But this is my opinion, my experience, my point of view. But I do think, in my opinion, that heaven could just be a feeling of like how the Holy Spirit feels, and the Holy Spirit guides you, or when you, like, you get in this, in this situation, this experience like, or somebody just praying, like, for a long time, and the Holy Spirit just just hits you, and you get that feeling like, I don't know. I think, I think that's the closest thing I could think of that's close to heaven in my from my point of view, but from a visual point of view, I don't know. I just, I see it probably as, like, just something we we couldn't even or we couldn't, can't even imagine, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, all, even all this new technology, like, like, if they got, if they had flying cars, I don't think it would be able to compare to that. Like, if they had something where holograms were coming, we could physically touch and interact with holograms. I don't even think you could compare to that honestly, yeah, and
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I mean, there I'm not donating the fact that people have gone to heaven and come back, but it all depends on what they're what they're teaching. But things that I've heard about multiple color roses, like multiple color plants, I think, well, not plants like I heard like multiple color roses, like blue or green roses, like, I could imagine myself just giving someone like some flowers. I don't even know how possible it'll be, but I think I heard what something from one source. I won't, I don't remember who it was, and I don't know if they're, I don't know if it was, I think it was CLOUD NINE blessings. They're pretty from what I know, they're have a lot of truth teaching, but someone was asking about flowers, like, if they could get some flowers, and I don't know where the flowers just spawned for the person. And I'm like, Wow, that sounds like something you could see out of in heaven. Did they just, like, spawned out of nowhere?
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Yeah, I think that that, you know, then, like, I feel like we would never have to have a need of something. And, like I said, going back into the first part, I just feel like just not having the need of something is just like what heaven is like, always having the ability to have what God has, or something that what it is like that, yeah, that abundance that increase your family, of having all that you can have, and nothing else, but only knowing that we all we need, is God, because He created everything, and so he is everything. So like, that's
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another thing before I forget, before I move on to the next subject, that animals in heaven will be very friendly, thankfully. So have a friend from InterVarsity. She was one of my previous guests. Like, I feel like she might have a pet bear in heaven, as one of her roommates or a couple of them, alrighty. So let's move on to food. Food. We all love food. So speculation, more speculation territory. A lot of us, love to eat meat, so, but fact is that there's no death in heaven, and that means animals. So the way I view it, I feel like, if there's if, if we end up replicating the Oh no, we won't be replicating it. But if replication of the best meats that we've ever had. Like best burgers, or chicken wings, cheese steaks, or anything like that. Debbie, I'm sure, I'm sure. Because keep in mind, this is God he can do. He can make anything happen. He'll make a way, yeah, like he'll make, I'm sure he can find a way for people to make these types of dishes without actually using the meats themselves.
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Imagine having like, a barbecue, like, on top of, like, heaven, bro, like, that'd be LC, I think that, um, one thing that when it comes to food, it's like, you really don't. I remember what, when the church would tell me that, like, you would get like, ice cream in heaven, like that. Like, I remember when they, like, used to tell me, like, all about that. And they would like, say, like, oh, like, you know, you'll get ice cream in heaven, you know, and you'll be happy and stuff like that. When I used to see a lot of that, like, I used to hear a lot of that when I was a kid, bro, so, like, I don't know, yeah, I don't know about
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that either. I was actually talking to a friend of mine about that. We were at Starbucks talking about heaven, and I don't remember what exactly I brought I think I don't remember exactly what I was bringing up, but she was like, asking me, like, Do you think we'll be eating donuts and stuff like that in heaven and Brenton? We'll never know until we get there. You want
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to know, but, uh, hang on. Like, they would eat like, like, in heaven. Like, I don't, I don't know, I don't think it would definitely be
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eating. That's for sure. Food would be important. But like, we're not gonna go hungry, though.
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Facts, I, in my opinion, like my point of view, like, I don't think we would need food, because the word would be food, US praising, right? Would be food. Like, just us being fellowshipping around those who are, yeah, we'll be fellowshipping that spirit with this Yeah, and
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yeah, I think we brought up some Yeah. My friend and I, we were talking about, like, donuts and snacks and stuff like that. And I told her, when we get to them, when we talk about mansions, like, I told her that I want, like, a snack roll of some sort. Like, I don't know if y'all seen Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, that ice cream world, you
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mean, I mean, look, if God could, like, make bread fall from the sky. I mean, you
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really, you really,
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don't you really also thinking
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about that. But hey, like, if, um, maybe I can maybe, like, that's possible. But you
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know what, I can't wait. He could, with heavenly bodies, no, be able to fly and we'll go
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get there. I think that's actually part of my truth.
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No, it is a true thing. But, like, I remember, like, No, this is off topic, but I remember like, when, like, COVID was around, and so, like, I saw this one video, people thinking that black people's gonna have superpowers. Like, I think they are gonna have superpowers. No, no. But like, bro, like, I really do feel like, at some point bro, we might actually have like, we might low key, be like, I don't think we'll probably ever get tired. So
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like, No, we're not gonna get tired. Probably gonna be like, that's another that's a fact. We're not gonna get tired in the
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morning. You feel me. You just like, zoom. You feel me. So just, it's just like that, you know, I'm saying like, just the energy, you know? I
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mean, yeah, uh oh. So I saw a supposed near death experience, where someone actually they were at a joint of some sort, where they were drinking this, I don't know if it was soda or what it was that had, uh, like, apparently the the drinks were neon lit of some sort, like, could you imagine drinking like, strawberry soda, which is all lit up, like the whole, like, the whole, like, juice is lit up, like, lit up fruit punch lit up. What a Sunny D, whatever lit
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up Sunny D is crazy. Like,
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like, juice or something that lights up. And apparently, according to some visitations that you when you eat fruit, like, like, there's a lot of juice that comes out of it, it'll, like, flow down your arm, but it'll, it'll dissolve quickly.
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I'm not gonna lie, bro, if I ever see lit up Sonny D, bro, I might actually crash out, bro.
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I mean, that's just an example, alrighty. Let's move on to the next topic. Yeah. So, since we were talking about abilities, superpowers, Well, God is the primary Superman and or super God, well, he's, he's the same yesterday, today and forevermore, yeah, yes, sir, yeah, we power. I forgot the scripture. But there, I think there is a scripture that, um, says that we can travel by taking thought, simply put, teleporting. I'll never forget, I had a dream. I think the rapture was about to happen, but I didn't. I didn't go anywhere yet, but I was able to teleport. I don't remember where I teleported to. I think I was gonna see my brother.
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You know what's crazy, bro, if we had the actual now, thinking about that is, if we do travel, by thought, mean teleportation, bro, like, if that's the case, like that that, you know, honestly, I would, I really feel like that, that actually would possibly be true because, because, like, you know, we, I don't know if we've ever talked I don't know if not, churches don't talk about this. I. Like, the physical is different from the spiritual. So we definitely have, like, an aspect of what it is. But I know, like, there has to be some type of other, like, dimension type, yeah,
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the spiritual is different. Like, for example, when we REM sleep, REM sleep for example, like, rapid, yeah, rapid, REM sleep, yeah, just REM sleep for example. Like, you're if people who get like, sleep paralysis, like, from I get sleep paralysis, right?
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Oh, I know how to get you. I know how to get out of that. So, yeah, real quick. I
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know you got to shake your toes. But no, no, you
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got to think about Jesus, like, Call upon Jesus in your head. This is a fact, because it helps me. It helps me out too. You get sleep paralysis.
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They don't even give them no more. But the thing about sleep paralysis is the fact that when you do have it like, yeah, you Yeah. I never had the chance to do that, but it's so powerful to the point you don't realize, yes, yeah, that's exactly what it is. You don't realize. You don't realize that you're in another dimension. You hear things, you see things. You might hear from. You might be somewhere, like, in a different state, right? You might be from this state, but Eddie, you might feel like you're in your all your old home, and you hear the same people, or you might hear something crazy, but the spiritual realm is different. And you know, there's one thing we shouldn't do, though, is play with familiar spirits, talk to familiar spirits. Oh, yeah, I do know that. So really like anything spiritual, we should be eating the word, right?
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Yeah. And I think that it's, it's interesting, because I had, there's this one time I woke up, I felt like I woke up and I couldn't move. I couldn't get out the bed. I was like, bro, what's going on? And like, it was like, six eight. I remember, like, I remember the time, like, it was like, around six something in the morning, and I couldn't move, but my eyes were open, and I couldn't move, and I had to, I was just singing songs in my head about Jesus, and then I eventually got out of it. So like, yeah, that's how you sleep paralysis. I'm telling you. Like, the spiritual is real,
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you guys. I don't mean to cut you off, but we're kind of getting off topic, but, uh, yeah. So another other things that we'll be able to do, we'll be able to walk on water, swim underwater without wait. We can breathe underwater like, yeah, we can definitely fly, that's for sure. Mansions, uh, now here's where things get a little weird. Ish, John, 14. I don't know if it's first one or two. It says that in my Father's house are many mansions. If it were not so I would, I would tell you, I go to prepare a place for you that where I am there you may be also so mansions we think of like these mega mansions here on Earth. Trust me when I tell you, I don't think it's worth it, especially you'll have people after you here, but in heaven. Like, think about the massive like, I don't know how it works. Like, I don't know if you have to build it by winning people to Christ or because I hear, like, many different views on it, you, bro.
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Like, I used to think I remember you telling me about matches and stuff like that in heaven, bro. And I was like, and I was like, dang. Like, if I have a matching like, like, Rick, Ross or Drake, bro,
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I probably much better than I've done. Dave,
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ask a question, how would y'all feel? For example, you know in your life, like, you know, you have people that you know you you know you deal with on a daily, right? But y'all die you see this person, like, this person might be like, maybe a real person. They might be like, you know, kind of distance, might not talk to anybody, might not help people. You might not see this stuff, but you go die and go to heaven, but you got a regular house, and that person has, like, the biggest house, like, like, I don't know. I don't know God works in mysterious ways. You never know who God might use. Like, you know he might what he might put a position. Like, I don't know.
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I mean, you really
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matter, like, as long as we have Jesus, like, I don't really feel like
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it doesn't matter. That's why I'm that's, that's, that's it. Reason why I say it doesn't matter because, like, it wouldn't really matter, because we
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because Jesus first, and foremost, that's our right motive, and one I often watch uptime, community, church, I'd highly recommend them. End Time, dream and vision with Bob barber and departure heaven. They occasionally talk about mansion. Sometimes I don't know if it was Bob barber who brought up. I don't know if it was the New Earth or new heaven that will have, like a lot of us will have mansions that are like seven times as high as the Empire State Building in like 80,000 like 80 square blocks. I think I don't remember. That's crazy, bro. But could you imagine that won't even faint on Earth? Nobody, not even Donald Trump, could afford that. Or Warren Buffet. Nice Donald Trump, that'll be beyond like 20, like plus trillion, even more than that like. And another thing I heard, I often hear people talking about mansions having portals of different dimensions, dimensions, which makes me think about Super Mario, 64 when you jump. Been the paintings. And I'm like, oh,
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yeah, so a warp pool or something like that, yeah. And
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that, like, gives me they gave me some ideas. I just started writing down some ideas for my mansion, like, one of which I want to have, like a mini city resort, nothing, nothing compared to the streets of gold. Like, far smaller beyond that. But like with amusement parks and Interstellar city. What else? Amusement Park? I just said amusement parks, but it's a lot. It can be overwhelming, but it's fun to it's fun to speculate.
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It is fun to speculate. Yeah, I think it's cool. All right, we
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talked about new abilities. So, so we got so this is a controversial This is a controversial subject. So for a while, I wondered if there's no marriage in heaven. Yes, this, it's a fact, but do not let this discourage you, because you can either choose heaven or hell. So I'd recommend choosing heaven, and we'll tell you how to get there towards the end of the episode. Anyway, I thought to myself, if there's no marriage in heaven, is there some type of replacement of some sort, if you want to call it that. But with marriage, you're you're basically signing covenant, a covenant where you're given in marriage, and you have to, you know, you're given in marriage. And I heard from this book called inside the gates of heaven. Now I don't know his name is the author's quote in Hendrick. I don't know if this is Biblically correct or not, so do not quote me on this. Take it to the Lord. I'm still trying to find out myself from, uh, God Himself, rather than from man, because I need to take it to the Lord. I mean, if there, if this is not biblically correct, then it is what it is, it I'm that's, heavenly companionship is not my motive. So, so, yeah, heavenly companionship i That's something I desire. I won't necessarily say who, but I did make a list of nominees of potential heavenly companions for myself in JoJo and cases, cases, I would hope it's their their girlfriends, and for my friend, I'll call him Mr. Money, his wife.
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Mr. Money. You feel me, yeah. I mean, look, heavenly companion is companionship with some I've never thought about because, like, let me just be real. Like, I want to get to heaven as long and I want my family to get in heaven too. Like, that's one thing I don't look at. I don't look at companionship as just like relationships, because, of course, I got my girl, but then I look at like mom, like my mom will always talk about like me and her relationship with each other. And so we'll be like, Look, we are family, but we both have sold totally two different lives. We have two different lives and and so my life is going to be totally different from yours. Even though we're related, we have one body, one soul, different from each other. You have a choice. I have a choice. It's kind of like that. I don't look at companionship as just a relationship. I look at companionship as just like, like a body, because really, we're supposed to be married to Christ first. And I think that marriage still would still exist, but it would still exist to a point where it's like, you know what? It's not necessarily to a person, it's to God, because marriage was a gift given by God, so that marriage could be like you, a man and a woman could be linked to God. So that way, when we're in heaven, a marriage is we're in heaven, literally. So we're supposed to be married, linked to God. You feel me? That's what I feel like it might be, you know, I'm saying,
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Yeah, I meant like, uh, it's, oh, Flash. Anyway, anyway, when you given the fact that you mentioned Christ, I meant to say primary companionship is the bride of like us being the Bride of Christ, marriage Christ and as the companionship I was referring to as a secondary companionship. But it's more important, is the right of Christ that we're focused on here. But um, as far as the subject goes, just, mainly, it's just something I'm quite curious about. Even though I've listened to the book inside the gates of heaven multiple times, I still want my confirmation from God Himself, because I want to take because we gotta test the spirits to make sure that they're from the Lord. I gotta, I gotta, I
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gotta, I got an opinion, like, about, like, companionship, like I'm human, like I think about it, because I'm like, Well, you know, I do love this person. I love these people. I want them to be in Heaven with Me. But I do know, like, for example, what JoJo was saying, it kind of made me think, in a way, like, yeah, we're one world body, like we're all, we all have the same goal. So it that's a companionship in itself, just us being on the same page and worshiping God and praising him and just being just thankful for him, because it's really, yeah, yeah. I.
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I Yeah, so I did. I did touch on the ability, the abilities, and me, personally, I'm gonna go a little bit further down with companionship that mean, given the fact that I did, I have desire to be married, but I don't, personally, don't see that happen anymore, because Christ is coming back soon. Don't know when. I don't know in but then again, I would want to have, like some of the experiences, whatever I can do in heaven with, with a heavenly companion of my own covenant companion that God gives me, like me, her and Christ. Sometimes it could be me and her alone, but me and me, her and Christ, that most of the time. Like, hanging out, chilling, like I could imagine, like, I would want Christ to split a star fruit from for the two of us and just like, give it hand it to us. Like, I don't know if you heard of Kingdom Hearts, where they basically the characters, uh, two characters. One's name is Soren, another, and he has a crush on his girl named Kyrie. And they split a star fruit. They call it a POW po fruit, I think, on the third gathering, the third game, spoiler warning, but yeah, and they and once they share the fruit, they're together forever. But instead of someone doing that on Earth, I'd rather Jesus do that in heaven, even though, if there is companionship, like we'll be together forever, right, and be married to Christ at the same time. Like, you know? So I touched on the abilities. Can I
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say this? Like, what? Just to bounce off? What you said? Like, yeah. Like, I like, if you think about it, a man and a woman marrying, right? They're still flesh, but once they marry, they become one, yeah, you know, so
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we won't be married. I
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can't, I can't, you know,
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that's an interesting point, because if they No, because two and two one, yeah, what is it? Dang, that's like two flush, they
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become one one,
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yeah until death, do us part. I mean, sure, yeah, that that, I didn't
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think of it like that. But that's not, yeah, that was, that's hard. I'm
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not gonna lie, because, I mean, but then again, you have, like, a marriage is a covenant. So like, let's just say, like you're, you're coveting with your like, we're COVID, like, I'm COVID with my wife. You know I'm saying, um, like, the woman's COVID with her husband. You feel me?
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I mean, I cut you off, but we're running, like, running low on time. Yeah, something before I wrap it up here, I want to, I did want to say, I didn't want to say something else interesting about clothing in heaven that, uh, someone had an idea from departure heaven that we could be wearing neon clothing. Well, wearing white is our primary white robes could be our primary clothing. But anyway, how do you get there? John 316 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. But here's the hard truth. John 14 six says, I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father, but through me, Jesus is the one way, street to heaven. You have to believe that He died on the cross for your past, present and future sins. Now keep in mind this, this is fact. This is facts. This is from the Bible. You have to believe that He died on the cross for your past, present and future sins, that He was buried, rose again on the third day, conquered hell, death and the grave. If you believe that you are saved, sealed and sanctified, ding, bang, boom, you're good to go. You don't have to work your way up there, because that's not how it works. Ephesians, 289, says it is for we are saved by grace, through faith in Christ alone. For it is to get the God Not of works, lest any man should boast having said that black balls gotta bounce you.
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