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The only real answer is Jesus.
The only real problem is Sin.
The only real work is the Cross.
In the end, we only have Him.
Discipling by Jesus (DBJ) is a group "co-devotional" practice for encountering the crucified Christ. By working through His Word & Spirit, Body & Blood we explore greater depths of the Father’s love as we surrender to the Holy Spirit.
time,name,content
2023-06-18 09:34:40.0 PDT,Robby Butler,"Alright, oh, wait, can you yeah, I currently, I overlapped, I called you just before your voicemail or the when?"
2023-06-18 09:34:41.3 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Hello.
2023-06-18 09:34:49.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Yeah, yeah. I was on the call. When you're going to be three the ordering wasn't fortunate."
2023-06-18 09:34:56.8 PDT,Robby Butler,Anyway we made it.
2023-06-18 09:34:59.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Yes, and it actually ordering is one of the things I wanted to talk about. Paste our chat into the notes but you know, following on our."
2023-06-18 09:35:07.6 PDT,Robby Butler,Yeah.
2023-06-18 09:35:11.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Thing that I was wrestling with personally when I think I shared that I had this insight that might have this one reason I get frustrated and resentful is that I'm unwilling to incarnate into other people's dysfunction in that I want that when I end up you get a message in the system of other people's messaging this that's extraordinarily painful and frustrating. And so, corrupting even until twelve, void the situation."
2023-06-18 09:35:44.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Putting on it this is the in like, ideally my preferred option is I want to fix or he'll other people so that I feel safe identifying, I wonder if god's perspective is that I need to first identify with people in their broken. We can only which is vulnerable and painful but sometimes it should be safe if I am in price whatever that means and that is how god ultimately feels and fixes."
2023-06-18 09:36:18.5 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Are broken this together and then you had a few thoughts, which I thought were very interesting just wanted to just read your text summarize some of the points we're wrestling with."
2023-06-18 09:36:29.2 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yeah, you're alright. Yes you're piling up too much for me that I just at once and so I'm starting to lose pieces. I was trying to remember the opening statement you made about nothing current date. And you have a your resistant currently. There was specific word I think he."
2023-06-18 09:36:49.7 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"I am, I'm willing to incarnate."
2023-06-18 09:36:52.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Unwilling.
2023-06-18 09:36:55.0 PDT,Robby Butler,"Okay. So I want to, I have a, I have a question about that. If we're not getting too far from where you wanna go?"
2023-06-18 09:36:55.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Other people that function and broken this.
2023-06-18 09:37:02.3 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Sure. What, whatever your questions are fine."
2023-06-18 09:37:05.2 PDT,Robby Butler,"Okay, so you are when you stay that is unwilling it suggestion that you're aware of making a decision not to incarnate the first, the first, there's a recognition that in current eighty as an option and how to respond and that you're consciously choosing not to is that what you're meaning to describe."
2023-06-18 09:37:29.3 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"No, that's a really good subtle point that's worth calling out which is that the thing that I experience believe the other people are acting a rationally or self destructive way that is my conscious perception is like what is wrong with these people and you know, it's perceived as sort of an intellectual assessment and then it goes to a layer, actually, okay the fact that these thoughts are stuck in my head implies I'm having an emotional reaction."
2023-06-18 09:37:43.6 PDT,Robby Butler,"Okay, yeah."
2023-06-18 09:37:54.4 PDT,Robby Butler,Right.
2023-06-18 09:38:02.8 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:38:02.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"That's, you know, what I get stuck in the car. This is loop. I take that as a, as a signal there's an emotional see what state the emotion that I infer and, and eventually feel is frustration and anger."
2023-06-18 09:38:22.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:38:22.7 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"At, you know, other people's your responsibility for example, and the."
2023-06-18 09:38:27.4 PDT,Robby Butler,Right.
2023-06-18 09:38:31.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Insight if you will. Is that a reason I feel anger is because I feel like a boundary husband crossed things that I consider an appropriate and healthy part of my role or at least they necessarily part of my role, that's why, you know angry and then wait for him. That isn't the comment that I shared the beginning, in the text to the what I really, you know, what I sort of the normal expectation, right? Is that got clear rules and clear boundaries and you know, people break them, I would like to just tell them, hey, stop doing that and, and fix the problem or fix their problem. So, you'll save identifying with them. It's, like, hey, if we're going to work together on this project. I really need you to do X."
2023-06-18 09:38:49.6 PDT,Robby Butler,Okay.
2023-06-18 09:39:02.2 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:39:17.2 PDT,Robby Butler,Mm-hmm.
2023-06-18 09:39:24.5 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"And if you, kept you X. well then you need to fix that before I can work with you, I know the implication."
2023-06-18 09:39:32.2 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yes, sir. Yeah, we."
2023-06-18 09:39:32.3 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"And that's the alternative, yeah."
2023-06-18 09:39:37.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Go ahead and.
2023-06-18 09:39:37.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Sorry, yeah, and that's the normal mode and that's contracted with the exceptional mode and rather than seeing the broken as, as their problem, I want them to fix, right? I got to fix or whatever. I see it as our problem and I have to identify with them, incarnate into that situation and recognize I'm part of, I'm inside the system with them and we're both broken and we need god to hear what."
2023-06-18 09:40:08.8 PDT,Robby Butler,"Okay. I think we've slow down enough that I'm tracking mostly, so, it seems like the common experience so many people have, yeah, feeling annoyance with somebody else. You go through. An additional layer, you get into the cognitive loop that helps you recognize that you're feeling annoyed or angry or how are you?"
2023-06-18 09:40:35.3 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"I would say being annoyed. Is the common experience feeling it slightly, somewhat less common than actually being annoyed."
2023-06-18 09:40:41.8 PDT,Robby Butler,"Oh, yeah, yes, okay. Yeah, BNI. And the common response to being annoyed is to desire and perhaps in many cases push for the other person to change to remove the stimulus for my annoyance. Which to me is the working of the private that says a full shows there no, it's at once but otherwise man overlook center."
2023-06-18 09:41:13.7 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Okay.
2023-06-18 09:41:16.0 PDT,Robby Butler,"Okay, so we're tracking so far and then then we go, then we go to the alternative which is to see it not something they need to change so that I'm not offended or, or I'm sorry, not, not annoyed. But it's something that we work on together and that's where I'm not sure I checked a fully with you in terms of my fully grasping what you mean by parenting Christ perfect alright so you want to pick up from there."
2023-06-18 09:41:19.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Alright.
2023-06-18 09:41:43.7 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Mm-hmm.
2023-06-18 09:41:49.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Yeah, I could, or we could just put a pin in that and focus on your questions to see if I can understand where you're coming from and you were you're talking."
2023-06-18 09:42:00.4 PDT,Robby Butler,"Sure, well I'm happy to, yeah, I was just been sitting down actually to write a note to Jackie to follow up yesterday. She took initiative to say this is why I mean this explain this. So my associate her, she took an initiative to say that my lack of initiative around home to deal with certain thing contributes to her. Since that I care about my vision work more than, I care about the family that I don't care about the family or they get six west and various ways but so."
2023-06-18 09:42:47.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Yes.
2023-06-18 09:42:49.6 PDT,Robby Butler,"And I describe yesterday this a farm situation where they have insurance coming and not staying when they would like them to stay on the interns initially came expecting this day and trying to sort through what are, what factors contribute to that and I felt like the, there's or I perceive that there's a common, that's my own family not feeling cared about has overlapping connections are are similarities."
2023-06-18 09:43:28.0 PDT,Robby Butler,With the insurance on the farm and this balance of where there's a a purpose and admission. How to balance that with care for the member. So that's the context I'm thinking about now if you want to go ahead and go back and re.
2023-06-18 09:43:28.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Yeah.
2023-06-18 09:43:41.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Which is very app for Father's Day? Right? This is the father's dilemma.
2023-06-18 09:43:45.4 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yeah, that."
2023-06-18 09:43:48.4 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yeah. And you know, I haven't proposed things. Well, I did propose some things but it, there's, there's also kind of a condition in my, in my expert, there's a condition rejection or things that I suggest and then forget from us about things I suggest and, and have that play into these dynamics."
2023-06-18 09:44:13.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Yeah, absolutely."
2023-06-18 09:44:16.0 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yup, yup."
2023-06-18 09:44:16.7 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Yeah, so this is good. So this is okay for lack I'm going to ask track further to try to explain the problem with obstruction which maybe a backfire horribly but I'm going to give it a shot, right. So, what did you receive the invisible matrix moody."
2023-06-18 09:44:28.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Yeah.
2023-06-18 09:44:31.0 PDT,Robby Butler,"Alright, sure."
2023-06-18 09:44:37.0 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yeah, we actually got our adult daughters mid twenties to watch the whole series with the street, certainly."
2023-06-18 09:44:44.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Okay, great. So cool. So the very first one only wants the first one I've read about the other one. But the interesting thing is right, that is if he is the neo is a character who is board in the matrix and we'll just whole life and the matrix. He doesn't even realize that there's another alternative reality, this is reality and then when he takes the red pill he pops out spoiler alert up then but in order to actually confront the system he has to Jack back in."
2023-06-18 09:45:02.2 PDT,Robby Butler,"Great, yup."
2023-06-18 09:45:16.7 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"We're always sensation that experiences are immersed in this computer generated matrix and, and but at the end you guys, that sort of power where he can sort of both experience the matrix. Ask them about live incarnation reality but also comprehend it as a simulation and he can see the underlying code if you will the generates the matrix."
2023-06-18 09:45:23.8 PDT,Robby Butler,Yup.
2023-06-18 09:45:46.6 PDT,Robby Butler,Right.
2023-06-18 09:45:48.5 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Right, and the idea is and I think there was something you said that triggered me mildly, which I think gets to this raises the question you said that you were interested in this season. How do I go closer to you in such a way that your spirit most deeply shapes what I want and what I pursue."
2023-06-18 09:46:01.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:46:16.0 PDT,Robby Butler,"Okay, yup."
2023-06-18 09:46:16.7 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,And what struck me about that phrase was spirit as opposed to saying your word or your body.
2023-06-18 09:46:26.2 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:46:28.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"And this idea of the incarnate word being foundational to grow closer to Jesus. It's something that I heard Gordon fees daughter talk about, it was very I'm using story she tells about her fiancéand making a comment about you can, that we can't waiting to have. There's a little busy with her and she got deeply offended because she said, hey, I am not my buddy and he was like what? And, and, and she called up her dad and to straighten him out and she said, okay. But he actually said like, when did you become a good enough enough to."
2023-06-18 09:47:00.4 PDT,Robby Butler,Mm-hmm.
2023-06-18 09:47:10.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"G-N-O-S-T-I-C like when did you start thinking that your true self is your spirit and your body is an accident or corrupted or less valuable than your spirit or lesson transit. And that letter on this like tenure request to like discover what he says like, I think you need to get, say like, you know, she was, you know we're working in ministry moving in the spirit having all these miracles and personal experiences but she had never really confronted the incarnation of Christ."
2023-06-18 09:47:10.6 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:47:13.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Yeah.
2023-06-18 09:47:25.6 PDT,Robby Butler,Alright.
2023-06-18 09:47:40.6 PDT,Robby Butler,Yeah.
2023-06-18 09:47:44.8 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:47:45.5 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"And so that is, the, I guess the wonder is where are you at?"
2023-06-18 09:47:53.2 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yeah, well I like."
2023-06-18 09:47:56.2 PDT,Robby Butler,"I like expand, I like the expanding what I wrote to include the body and the word it was not it was not a conscious a rejection of the other two just reflect my continuing dwelling and a room and eating on as many as are led by the spirit of god. Those are the phones are got out of Romans eight."
2023-06-18 09:48:24.5 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Like liquid that is an important dimension of this.
2023-06-18 09:48:29.2 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yeah, not exclusive. Right. It's not exclusive. It just, it's, or the fact of the fact that that's where my mind is at the moment."
2023-06-18 09:48:31.7 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Right.
2023-06-18 09:48:37.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Right, and you know, we be able to like the, your last sentence in the text was, you know, the contract she made Darryl, which I thought fascinating was you. Said my focus tends to then be on how I can see what I imagine he wants and you sort of, I think frame that as the failure mode."
2023-06-18 09:48:49.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:48:56.8 PDT,Robby Butler,Right.
2023-06-18 09:48:57.5 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Right, but you said this overlooks the reality that the first thing he wants from me is it Timothy with intimacy with me."
2023-06-18 09:49:06.4 PDT,Robby Butler,Alright.
2023-06-18 09:49:07.7 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,I think that is.
2023-06-18 09:49:11.3 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Possibly true and possibly misleading.
2023-06-18 09:49:17.2 PDT,Robby Butler,Okay.
2023-06-18 09:49:17.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Right, and I think there's a subtle here that language may not express well but I just know you my experience of this is that is this try and lemma I see which is here's my obligation to just be close to Jesus and noticed the we're just you know, in which case no like, you know because that's where my friends and them and ask the movement."
2023-06-18 09:49:23.2 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:49:26.2 PDT,Robby Butler,Yeah.
2023-06-18 09:49:42.4 PDT,Robby Butler,"No I know, yeah, that works."
2023-06-18 09:49:50.3 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Priority like the most important things for move this for action so I can be intimate with you. Alright, four."
2023-06-18 09:49:56.2 PDT,Robby Butler,"That's of, that's one, that's one kind of monasticism they're also asked us that involve engagement with the community."
2023-06-18 09:50:04.7 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Sure, yes, I just need these are the hard-core trampled only Benedictine that aspect. So the original Kalamazoo the, yeah, the most what the, I think they called her medic side of them and ask that tradition."
2023-06-18 09:50:09.4 PDT,Robby Butler,"Hi, isolation next year."
2023-06-18 09:50:17.8 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yeah, okay."
2023-06-18 09:50:18.5 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Yeah, okay, sure the so, yeah, so there's a hermit to them, I guess want to be more technical about it and, and they tried to live with that intention with you know part of the master we've been growing out of the desert fathers and the heretic traditions was this tension between the a solitary experience of intimacy with god, and the community experience of living together the listing. So that's one framing is that like, I got this is where I have this triple entendre. And what does it mean to grow closer to Jesus? Right? So one dimension that is relational growing closer to him."
2023-06-18 09:50:43.6 PDT,Robby Butler,Right.
2023-06-18 09:51:05.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"A another dimension of that is forming his character within us. And then the third dimensioned that is, is having his impact in the world, right? Doing his having, you know, in love with him, having his likeness and then living out his kingdom. And for me I see them as this sort of three random road and like where you start is less important than the fact that all your braided together."
2023-06-18 09:51:06.4 PDT,Robby Butler,Right.
2023-06-18 09:51:13.6 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:51:26.8 PDT,Robby Butler,Right.
2023-06-18 09:51:39.5 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"And if you prioritize one too much over the other two actually leads to a much more fragile situation and like, and I think that's the, that was the wonder I had what I read."
2023-06-18 09:51:40.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:51:49.6 PDT,Robby Butler,So.
2023-06-18 09:51:53.8 PDT,Robby Butler,We need to review.
2023-06-18 09:51:56.2 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yeah, we need to review what all three are because I didn't absorb them and I'm thinking about what you talked about fees daughter. And the idea of the question wonder popped into my mind. So how do I in my body?"
2023-06-18 09:52:05.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Yeah.
2023-06-18 09:52:17.2 PDT,Robby Butler,"A growing intimacy with Jesus. And the thought the team was his body is the community of believers and that engagement important but there is also a thought as we talked about the for medic or at least that's the way I remember the worst a permit for medically seal from that kind of union with Christ, to also not just fellowship with other in Christ buddy but also engagement with the world as an important."
2023-06-18 09:52:28.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Yeah, yeah."
2023-06-18 09:52:40.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Yeah.
2023-06-18 09:52:56.8 PDT,Robby Butler,Part of where we go with Jesus. Right?
2023-06-18 09:52:59.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Right.
2023-06-18 09:53:02.8 PDT,Robby Butler,"So you had a try or 33 some but I, I'm not sure if it relates to what I was thinking about on my own, so I."
2023-06-18 09:53:02.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Yeah, so, let's talk, yeah."
2023-06-18 09:53:10.7 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Yeah, and I might have gone off on a tangent. So but I was trying to bring it back down to Gordon fees daughter. Cause I think that's important is that if she had this idea that her spirit and commuting with Jesus was like the most important thing and perhaps even the only important thing."
2023-06-18 09:53:16.6 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh. Okay.
2023-06-18 09:53:28.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Okay.
2023-06-18 09:53:28.7 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Alright, and because of that oddly enough she never really, I don't know if this is strongly call a causal but it was certainly correlated for her is that she always felt like Jesus was cheap."
2023-06-18 09:53:42.5 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"The Jesus was in the cliche a spiritual being. Having sort of temporary transient a human experience, and so, like when he was facing temptation or on the cross or whatever that he wasn't fully present in those moments with all the insecurities and, and, and pain that we feel a human being. He was sort of playing on god mode, if you will, you know, in video games you have god mode where you have inputted life and enter the hit points and can, you know, arbitrary weapons."
2023-06-18 09:53:43.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Oh.
2023-06-18 09:53:52.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Huh.
2023-06-18 09:54:04.6 PDT,Robby Butler,Okay.
2023-06-18 09:54:08.2 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:54:14.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"And therefore, you know, there's an appearance about the rebuild ease but it's actually, you know losing the reality is that you are transcending and not affected by these things."
2023-06-18 09:54:15.4 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yeah, okay."
2023-06-18 09:54:20.2 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:54:26.8 PDT,Robby Butler,"Okay, yeah."
2023-06-18 09:54:28.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Right, and that's, and when you talked about how like the things that you stay in due to your family bounce off."
2023-06-18 09:54:35.3 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"It, you know, where people, people don't hear things you say or they forget things you say. It was like, well, yeah, that's kind of what this model predicts is if you're perceived as operating from a frame of reference. That's transcendent rather than incarnate then they, like, when I go off on a tangent, that isn't relevant to your situation, there's no a place in your brain to take the information because it's literally irrelevant to you. It is almost, I mean, it's quite possibly meaningless."
2023-06-18 09:55:05.2 PDT,Robby Butler,Right.
2023-06-18 09:55:08.8 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yeah, bye."
2023-06-18 09:55:08.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Alright, cause meeting and, and this idea that meeting is embedded within systems."
2023-06-18 09:55:13.6 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:55:14.3 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Like, you know, like one of the real turning points with my boss and I was talking about trying to, like set aside you know, the urgent financial pressures you know from customers. And all the idea around our start up, you know based on this process, we were trying to follow people who wrote that process. You know they have a successful multibillion dollar business. They don't know what it feels like to like have your future on your fragile startup. I said yes, I know that they don't but I do like once he saw that I was in a situation and this idea of identification, right? That you know that either identify with him but be and perhaps even more importantly the key I dental five."
2023-06-18 09:55:46.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:55:52.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Yeah.
2023-06-18 09:55:55.6 PDT,Robby Butler,Yup.
2023-06-18 09:55:59.3 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"That I've identified with him, right? He sees me seeing him."
2023-06-18 09:56:04.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Right.
2023-06-18 09:56:04.7 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"And then I said, for the phrase that he's sees me, seeing him with Christ, I, right. So, I see that I see the pain, I see the fear. I see the same but then I don't see that with a judgment or condemnation that pushes him away or even a position of pure, you already, it's like, well, clearly, if you were just like me you wouldn't have this problem. But it's like, no, hey, like this is the part of me that is the needs, redemption just as much as he does as a part of him that does, it's probably more for like the reason we have these annoyances."
2023-06-18 09:56:16.6 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:56:22.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Yeah.
2023-06-18 09:56:26.2 PDT,Robby Butler,Yeah.
2023-06-18 09:56:30.4 PDT,Robby Butler,Right.
2023-06-18 09:56:43.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Yeah.
2023-06-18 09:56:47.9 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,It's because there are under deemed part.
2023-06-18 09:56:51.5 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"And the challenge the opportunity is like people have to see us seeing them and, and see that they can identify with us and that Christ is present in this is very specific thing that they don't know how to deal with."
2023-06-18 09:57:14.2 PDT,Robby Butler,"Okay, yup."
2023-06-18 09:57:16.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Yeah, so that's."
2023-06-18 09:57:19.6 PDT,Robby Butler,"So, the sale for me, the for Jackie to see me seeing her with an empathy that reflects Christ rather than trying to argue her out of the feeling that she has because my in my broken S. I elevate that what is it this, I don't know a lack of emotion to a a higher spirit se rose with a broken that it is."
2023-06-18 09:57:48.5 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,Yeah.
2023-06-18 09:57:53.3 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Right, and this is a paradigm medical of Christ is that Christ. You know, first few left glory and became humble W. as a man as a baby. And through something he lost that perfect communion with his father, right? In order to experience life as a man and then on the cross, in some sense, whatever that means, you know, somewhere between seventy and across, there was an even deeper break, we're here to confront, you know, the gap between his father's the sense of being we're band and whatever like. And so, and that's like, yes at one level, there is this."
2023-06-18 09:58:05.2 PDT,Robby Butler,Right.
2023-06-18 09:58:16.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Right.
2023-06-18 09:58:21.4 PDT,Robby Butler,Yeah.
2023-06-18 09:58:27.5 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Intimacy is important but other another level the desire for intimacy or the privacy of intimacy can actually interfere with the other two strands which is this Trinitarian intimacy? Jesus, really wants from us and for."
2023-06-18 09:58:47.8 PDT,Robby Butler,"Well, I would think that the exclusivity focusing on is that desire. Yes, what becomes problematic not the strength of the desire, so, as in."
2023-06-18 09:59:02.3 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"It's not the strength, it's the relative privacy."
2023-06-18 09:59:06.4 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yeah, yup."
2023-06-18 09:59:09.4 PDT,Robby Butler,"I use the, there. Yeah, yeah."
2023-06-18 09:59:09.5 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Right, and they did that. Yeah, it's like three phase. I also didn't current system. It's like there's like, there's different points in time. We're each phase is primal and if you, if your, your motor doesn't spend, you know, it looks this forward and then it gets stuck and they just walk back and forth and not actually forward progress."
2023-06-18 09:59:15.4 PDT,Robby Butler,Uh-huh.
2023-06-18 09:59:20.8 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yeah, yup."
2023-06-18 09:59:28.6 PDT,Robby Butler,But yeah.
2023-06-18 09:59:32.2 PDT,Robby Butler,Alright.
2023-06-18 09:59:37.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Right.
2023-06-18 09:59:40.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Alright, I kinda need to wrap up any closing costs."
2023-06-18 09:59:44.8 PDT,Robby Butler,"No, no I think that's a been helpful I can get back to my, well that was composing to Jake with this additional, perfect, thank you."
2023-06-18 09:59:52.7 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Yeah, no. Well, happy Father's Day. And you know this for me is it, is still very on topic and, and that I feel like there's something here deep about my own understanding and practice of fathering. And, and what is this Christ, like, fathering as opposed to say mosaic salary just, just make some important. If you don't have to say exploring, if you don't have a law, you don't have any closest or a system, you know that exist where you can even have these conversations. So, anyway, god bless you. Happy Father's Day. Talk to you soon."
2023-06-18 10:00:06.4 PDT,Robby Butler,Right.
2023-06-18 10:00:10.0 PDT,Robby Butler,Yeah.
2023-06-18 10:00:24.4 PDT,Robby Butler,"When you, when you, when you said mosaic, I thought you were referring to the art form rather than Moses, so."
2023-06-18 10:00:33.4 PDT,Robby Butler,"Alright, let's see. Let me."
2023-06-18 10:00:34.1 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Fair point, I, I'm not sure my cell. Okay, yeah."
2023-06-18 10:00:37.0 PDT,Robby Butler,"Alright. Well thank you for your presence in our lives for your word, your body and spirit and help us to connect with you and what you desire to be there and what you want us to be particularly as we seek to be father's or to be, to be, to bless our families and how we do that. But it might be leaving informed by experience with you and your word and your body."
2023-06-18 10:01:09.4 PDT,Robby Butler,"Yes, ma'am, ma'am. Alright, goodbye."
2023-06-18 10:01:11.3 PDT,Ernest Prabhakar,"Hey, man, thank you so much Rebecca. Bless you, bye-bye."