Tom Ingegno: Ancient Secrets of Cupping for Inflammation Relief

Discover the power of cupping for inflammation in this episode with Tom Ingegno, acupuncturist and author.

Learn how this ancient technique can benefit those with autoimmune conditions by reducing inflammation and promoting healing. Tom shares the science behind cupping, its modern applications, and how to safely practice it at home.

From its surprising history to its role in a holistic wellness approach, explore why cupping is gaining popularity among those seeking natural ways to manage inflammation and autoimmune symptoms.

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the Ancient roots of cupping Therapy.

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the use home and how lifestyle connected
to nature bring about true wellness.

Dr Tom, welcomee to the podcast.

Oh, thank you so much for having me

i am so excited for this
Conversation and i have.

Like eight thousand questions for you

that's all right I'll
answer 'em all this as i can

you're so accommodating um i i would
love to know how listers get to know

you a little bit you know how did you
get into what i would call kind of

like Ancient healing modalities or
even just like true healing modalities

but well yeah what about you here

i its like i love telling
the story cause i think it.

You know it helps people relate to where
you're at you know um, so i was i was

you know Growing up thinking i was gonna
be a medical doctor right you know that

that's it right you wanna help people go
into western Medicine because i didn't

know there was any other kind of Medicine.

Ah and you know when i was in
College and ah god well this was

before College in high school my
grandfather was a pharmacist and

he was counting out pills one day.

And he actually was you know
kind shaking his head while he

was doing an old school with a.

Uh like a had like a spa i worked in a

pharmacy i remember yeah and then you had

you had the ones that you would dump
back into the main bottle and then

the ones you would fill into the
prescription so he counts 'em out

and he looks at me and he goes uh.

God these things cost five dollars a
pill he has to take three of them a

day for the rest of his life the guy
that happened to be doing it was like

a a day labor you know hops on the back
of the truck at at you know home Depot

and gets hand in cash at the end of
the day and you know my grandfather.

Uh.

I'm italian.

Ah, but he always used to refer to the
latinos that came into his pharmacy as his

his people's people right like there was
a there was this really similar way that

immigrants from both places were treated.

Uh yeah you know we were expected to do
the manual labor and not give back talk

and do all this stuff and you know he he
always was trying to look out for them.

Uh and he said you know this guy this is
such a big chunk of this guy's budget.

Uh and he looked at me and he goes you
know there's gotta be a better way and

I'm hoping you find it and then you
know i block that out you know he died

a better year later and I'm sitting in
College one night and uh that popped

into my head and at the time i happened
to be taking a tai chi elective.

Uh you know like an after school kinda
like here's a 11 a week class and.

I was in a Chinese philosophy
course it was very interesting to

me because that Chinese philosophy
bleeds into all different

aspects of life so it's not just.

You know oh, this the thing so in art
music writing even the calligraphy has

these concepts of balance and oh, this is
too young this is too young and certainly

that's in the mar art too am fast forward
a couple de junior year and in that.

Winter inter session i received
a post in an acupuncture school

and it was it

was about ten minutes from my parents'
house it was oh and to tell you the truth

I'm going next week and I'm super excited
i get to see somebody that i studied with

and actually stayed with in Vancouver for
uh two weeks about Twenty years ago and

go meet up with some of my old buddies.

Ah from acupuncture school but after
that two weeks i was enrolled and i never

looked back you know i saw i went to that
open house and i was like this is it.

Ah you know and that that's pretty
much you know fast forward Twenty.

So about Twenty six and

half years i know i don't
know how this happens

i had at some point

i get it yeah well you know and
thank goodness cuz look at the

contribution you're making well we're

we're trying you know it's it's a
big push it's it's a lifestyle you

know it's you can't just do this.

Halfway you have it is it that said like
find something you love and it kill you or

something like that whatever that is like
it's funny because East asian Medicine

is all about this concept of yang.

Living life fully and robust
as long as you can right right

and that's the whole point i i think the
most Brilliant thing that accidentally

ever that i wanna live well right like
it's not about how old i didn't think I'd

to see fifty so im really grateful and
blessed to be fifty five and living life

to its fullest but yeah i love that you.

This is the difference in my mind.

I mean there's so many differences
but the the the Perspective this

we and we're talk about.

Kind of you know how old you know
acupuncture cupping all of this is right

this is like a return to the root humans
have known Works for a long time yeah ah,

but this mentality of you know the back to
you know back to your grandfather right.

Ah, a i can keep doing what I'm doing.

Living the way living and somebody
else is fix it for me and so i love

that you brought that up because
even you know going to your clinic

and getting these amazing treatments
that work and we're gonna talk

about the ah you have to be living.

I my mentor was was very uh, uh.

Strict with that let's say you know
uh, he he kinda i almost said raised

there but i think that's an appropriate
word you know he raised me and and

and my colleagues and look you you.

It was almost like martial arts like
you keep doing this until until you

you own it and you know he would always
say things like there's no advanced

techniques just basic ones practice to
perfection which is like directly from

Chinese martial arts you know these what
we do over and over again it it doesn't

just become a habit it becomes ingrained
in who we are sure and uh with that.

That's where we see Skill that's
where we all have our expression so

there's an expression that i absolutely
love new patient especially if they

acupunc ten acupuncture so we're all
trying to express this Medicine in

the best way we can so the people
that I've studied with for years and

i came up with they'll do a completely
different treatment if you see them of.

You know but that's the beauty of it's

the art and the Science and im
guessing that every patient on

your table gets the same treatment.

No absolutely not even if they say
the same things you know even even

something as simple as back pain
which we see all day it's like yeah

no

yours is a little different.

Okay.

Well you know why did you do this instead
of that i don't know i felt like it no

there's a reason you know this is how you
presented right you know and and today

is different than the next time i see you

right right no which is.

You know getting back to this personalized
treatment right yeah which is amazing

i wanna talk a little bit i wanna kind
of dive into the book a little bit.

Okay, yeah yeah sure because i have
learned so much about from you i always.

Thought it was an Ancient practice yeah

practitioner.

Ah who was also un MD but studied
en china for years and years and

years and and so i was like wait what
talk about like what you know for

people out there I'm sure i forget
cuz they live in this bu right yeah.

Um, they probably are people who are like
what is cupping yeah let's start there and

then and then we'll just see where we go.

So so we're about i know when we're
Recording this a different time but

we're about uh, two weeks away from the
summer Olympic starting and the biggest.

Ah.

Was four years ago with Michael
Phelps he home her Baltimore.

He the and he had over body and
that's when hit did something back in.

Oh six she showed up to a like a
red carpet event with a backless

dress and had copping marks
people all thought she was sick

but within that.

Is the use of a vacuum and some kind
of jar, cup, traditionally they were

buffalo horns pieces of bamboo Clay pots
ah that creates a vacuum and pulls the

skin away from the fascia the fascia
away from the muscle and allows for more

blood to circulate into that tissue.

What we're doing there is really we're
trying to reduce inflammation but we

have all these other side Effects we get
Fresh blood to the tissue we're getting

more oxygen more nutrients and even
Pharmaceuticals right we're getting if

you do have supplements or drugs in your
bloodstream they're gonna flow to that

tissue better uh, so the bruise uh, which
really technically isn't a bruise because

it's not like a a blunt force trauma it
doesn't hurt and those are the cap the

Surface rupturing from the pressure.

The bruise isn't where the first magic
happens that happens deeper in the

tissue and Studies show up to six inches
deep right so we can really get yeah

so we we heard you explain
about you know how we can

breathing issues and it seems if you
don't really understand what's what's

going on it's like well how does.

My back help my lungs but you know this
whole I'm thinking of all these different

word final to Circle back and understand
the importance of release release and

and getting into all these layer and
like getting ad adhesions to release

move yeah yeah moving yeah yeah and and
it's always interesting to me because

you know acupuncture as a system is.

As a formalized system is about Twenty
seven hundred years old we know we have

texts going back we we have references
going back nine thousand years to

something called Needle Therapy no
description Beyond that so we can't

really say when acupuncture started.

But we know that we have records

acupuncture texte that ask you

we trace back

so so.

Ah we know the oldest texte that we
currently have and there was probably

things written down beforehand but we lose
them the time and Wars and cultural shifts

and all those things but fifteen fifteen
BC we have the Evers which is egyptian.

And we know that cupping was written
about but they wrote Surgical procedures

down and we still do some of the same
techniques today in Modern hospitals.

Ah, so cupping was written about their
persian Physicians were using it.

Medicine so we have all of these kind
in that kind of mediterranean northern

Africa, eh you know middle Eastern
area and I'm reading a book now on

another technique from acupuncture
which is called moa bustion and we

found these scrolls and oh my god like
acupuncture evolved and it's even older

and we didn't know this and we didn't
know that so what we know is that.

People were traveling East West north
South a trade right so we don't even

know how these ideas got to china but
in about three hundred three fifty ad

don't quote me on that right there was
a Chinese physician that was writing

about cupping and he was saying y you
know i know this sounds so beneath all

of you right because we're we're Doctors.

Know and this was done in homes this
was done and still classically is a

across the world before you even went
to see a professional right right and

he goes this is so great and you Guys
are you Guys are missing this so we

shouldn't look our nose down at this
we should incorporate this and it's

been about since three hundred a d.

That that acupuncturists and
Chinese Medicine practitioners

have been including kpe.

Which is amazing um and what i love about.

Your book and what you're doing es you
know hay it would be really difficult

for me to get to your clinic on a
regular because i live in colorado

right and so it again the power
this whole my whole mission is about

empowering people to take control of
their health right that's why we're here

having the Conversation and so i love.

That you putting in the hands of
people getting it back in the home.

Ah, a and we we'll talk a little bit about
different you know i i certainly although

i could because i i live with a physician
who you know love the challenge of you

know using fire yeah yeah yeah um, but
but and that's this beautiful thing where.

Modern technology

Science Medicine into and

make it more accessible
it's accessible it's not

it's not dangerous and so you know
i i just i love that i i think

that that is like the biggest
gift that you're giving people.

Somebody who gets

we're gonna do the fire like I'm pas on
an opportunity to play with fire yeah

heard so talk about that because because

experience cupping.

You know en message or whatever very
different from the ritual of i received

with the Chinese Medicine doctor yeah
and there is i loved what you said

because when i clients we with mindset.

And it is in this because some of the
most impactful things people can do

is stuff that even i used to w and
the Science out right and so what you

are doing clinic the fire cupping and
the and I've heard you talk about.

You know taking.

Wow, you have

done a deeper dive on me

using using you know that.

Show.

I think is what you called it yeah yeah
a and but but you you know you explain

it's not just this is an ego thing no

and

why not if that's what the
that's what's gonna get you

that ten percent extra relief.

Yeah y look i got this special thing
done yeah you know my mentor used

to say this he he wasn't a marketer.

Uh, but he always had a busy
practice probably because he had

so many Devoted students going like
you know you gotta see my teacher.

Uh, but you know when when we asked him
like you know how the hell do we get

a practice started yeah he goes look.

Uh.

You know you you Guys are starting
out you don't have you know the best

clinical Skill yet right you develop
that over time but you know maybe the

guy across the Street from you doesn't
have uh as nice of an office space maybe

maybe they're not playing good music
maybe your table is a little bit more

comfortable y you know and and all of
that adds into the effect and when we

look at what we're doing with like.

A lot of the techniques that we offer
classically were playing with the

autonomic nervous system right getting
that Vegas nerve to settle down why

because that gets that gets the blood
vessels open that gets better circulation

that reduces inflammation you know
that helps Repair the gut that helps

regulate uh brain wave activities
neurotransmitters hormones it hits

every system it's called the Vegas nerve
cuz it wanders everywhere right so.

If if we can play that up if we can
turn that up we'll get better results

without having to like do like crazy
heavy lifting right why wouldn't you do

that right.

Ah, i love it i love it and i love
that you you know i i was thinking.

Okay, inflammation while you were
talking about because mm-hmm,

es especially today and I'm sure
en every time in civilization.

Ah, but in particular.

The chronic stress load yeah you
back then it was a cute we beautiful

how.

Y i have found have that gift of like.

Oh here's how you get you know let's
help you into the sympathetic state

yeah yeah because you can't heal if
you're not in the sympathetic state

and and society is designed to
keep you in that sympathetic

state now almost right you know.

Yeah.

Oh, my god this is something to be
afraid of and you're like i didn't

even know that was a thing five minutes
ago you know now I'm terrified and

now we're making up stuff to be
afraid of like we didn't have

enough stuff to be afraid of
already you know in the eighties and

the nineties they used to say paper
tigers right you know and it was like.

Oh my boss is going to kill me right no
the boss isn't gonna kill you you might

get chewed out but your brain is going.

Oh, my god I'm dying you know
if i don't get this assignment

done or something and now.

It's literally like you know
the five o'clock news do you

know what's killing you now

i don't i don't.

Yeah i learned before i even knew
anything i noticed in my twenties i

grew up in new jersey so my local.

Okay.

The new York City news my news network.

Oh god i have

flashbacks coms with
jersey jingles and like a.

Oh god

I'll do that in the with the car
in the car with my wife I'm like.

Hey you remember the Milford plaza.

I do i remember the song too and i
was like that's such such a niche

commercial anyway i I'm justr

well no it's so it's so what i noticed
i moved like i moved to Miami yeah

and i don know if what was happening
en Miami eighty nine but it was

like living in an episode of caps.

Ya you know always and and the
reason I'm bringing it up is because

you would think if the new York
City news you know wasn't bad.

That was when i notice.

Oh, my gosh i can't watch the news at i
don't sleep was when i left to Miami i was

like whats going on in new York City any

any day yeah you know which is so crazy
everyone thinks it's it's so it's a

it's a horror show and you're like

no, no,

no

hay it is one of like the first.

Connections i made i wasn't in the
wellness space i wasn't aware of much ah,

but i it was notice and that was better

absolutely

you know if it bleeds it leads and then
well now it can't even be a little paper

cut anymore you have to lose a limb
right right you know to get people's

attention so even when it's like.

Oh that sucks but it's
not that big of a deal.

They will they will turn it into like
oh everyone's everyone's gonna lose

a life over here you know this is
horrible yeah and that's that that's

unfortunate because like there's also
this thing where i don't think we've

ever been safer in our entire lives right

like there's so much beauty and there's so
much and and and again and and then you.

Ah you get i do sometimes in that mindset
of like you know i mean technology

look at look at us on on yeah having
this beautiful Conversation that people

around the world are gonna get to listen
to and watch right so we forget that

back to the cupping of like technology.

Because who in the home

you know i always call it grandma's
Medicine right and that's how it was

introduced to me right you know it
was always you know and and it didn't

matter what culture people came from
right everyone any time I've talked

any oh god yeah and slight variations
on the technique yeah but at the

end of the day it was the same thing

right yeah.

Which is beautiful and so and and i don't
know that without technology of of and

we'll talk a little bit about like the
different kinds of cups and and um, but i.

I don't know that we would get.

Faire back

i know plenty of Families whose
grandmother first generation or off

the boat still doing it I'm never.

Grandmother not to do it no

I'm not talking about that I'm
talking about the people that have

never heard of cupping and they
wanna learn and start like that's not

where you're you should start yeah

you know leave that leave that to
the professionals leave that to the

people you know and and it's funny
because i I'm gonna tell a story in

one of my associates is gonna kill me,
uh, but there's a reason we have not.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

There's a reason why we have those
trash can with the lid in our clinic now

yes

way we laid out the room the rubing
alcohol that we dipped the torch

into is right next to the garbage.

And she

goes uh, i accidentally, uh, lit
the garbage can on fire I'm like.

Oh, i did that twice should
probably the new case we

should maybe rethink this laout you

know and and it's

you professional

and and you know that's that's the
thing i probably shouldn't admit that

right i look like a lunatic but no.

I actually think it first
of all you're human.

Yeah and we knew we were gonna have fun
today and secondly if if it is happening

with you right like yeah imagine what's
happening to people right exactly yeah

yeah thanks

to the tip of the garbage can
with the lid that's yeah well

you know i would say if anyone was ever
going to try it make sure there's nothing

flammable around and that includes like
you know you wouldn't even think if

you're doing something on somebody's.

Upper back of shoulders well make
sure their hairs outta the way

right you shouldn't you shouldn't
have to say that but like those

products are pretty flammable and
hair doesn't hold up against he

and it is attach your head it is.

Your face who you some this

this is most likely to get uh
food stuck in it fortunately at

least.

Ok, if you need a snack you all set

thats fantastic i love it so so.

How did was your mission to get
back into the household the what the

so it's funny because there's there's
so many things that are happening right

now right we're at a time where like
ai is gonna like just just completely

re change the world and you know i
don't think that's necessarily a bad

thing right we're gonna have some
problems with it but that's any new

technology we have problems with and.

Were also seeing this return to to like.

Natural therapies right half the
services i offer in my clinic i

feel like if if people were outside
seasonally more they wouldn't need

but we're not like that we go car to
office to you know back to car you

know to back to home and and we're not.

Exposed to the elements anymore and we're
not you know putting our feet on the

ground and i know that sounds a little
woowoo but like there there's some Studies

on grounding and you know of Studies

yeah yeah yeah you know so

but it's still not mainstream and and
you still kind of look like the out

there person when you're doing it and.

On the ground barefoot i mean how is that

right i you know and and for me it's
like no you don't understand as long

as we've been human beings we've had
a relationship to nature and even

before we've been human beings right.

Uh our brains were the
same as they were like.

I don't even know how many millions of
years ago but like since we've been homo

sapiens we've had the same brains right
so we've had these abilities to think and

problem solve and process these things
so I'm not saying every Ancient technique

is well founded I'm not saying we should
start jumping on uh you remember the old

school sketch Steve Martin was a Barber.

On SNL and he kept he just said take
another pint right a so there there

is some value in Therapeutic bleeding
right we see that in men with hormone

replacement we do, uh bleeding

in acupuncture yeah you

know and and it's not taking pins
and pins and just letting it you

know we're not old school but there's
some technique there and there

is.

Actually using Medicine not
everything old was not Worthy

had me do a lecture and I've done four
for them the medical hospital system and

the first one i did uh, they were like.

Oh that was great can you come back
and i go yeah and they're like.

Okay can you come back around
Halloween and i go all right.

Let me show these Guys how weird i am
and they won't invite me back and i said

how about i do a bunch of gros stuff
from history that has Modern uh, coro.

He was like I'm all in let's do that I'm.

Oh, shit.

He called me out

we talked about we

talked about leach Therapy we talked
about eating human placenta as a as

a precursor to STEM cell replacement
we talked about fecal Transplant

because that has Chinese origin roots.

Uh you know we talked about
a whole bunch of weird.

Things that like hey guess what maga
Therapy is still being used today

right y you know so so when we have the
Modern evidence when we have the Modern

research saying no Guys this is please
keep this baby and don't don't dump all

that back water out you know right uh
and now it's starting to see these kind

of Limelight things where we're like.

Oh, wow.

This really does deserve.

It's moment in the spotlight it does
deserve to be Incorporated and when

we have those techniques that now
as you were saying before technology

has made so much more accessible

let me write the yeah

it can be a both let me write
the book i want you to be able

to read that in a few hours.

I'm gonna talk to you like its grandma
teaching you i don't need to make

this a scholastic activity where
you're gonna have to take notes and

find reference material and i wanna
show you that this is intuitive.

So where do you think they should go
is a pretty good idea now the book also

covers like the different types of cups
that are available on the market and

i mean you can go crazy and buy the
a hundred Twenty dollars electric one

or you can go on Amazon and go like.

Oh here's Twenty of them for like
ten bucks so i want you to have that

ability to design it the way you want.

And i just want you to have the
information because that information is

power and then you are empowered to live
a better healthier life and then honestly.

If you end up on my table it makes my
job easier why because you're doing

more things to help you right health
healthcare doesn't happen when you're

in the office in an office right
yeah you know it's all those things

that you're doing outside right.

Just like you don't go to the gym
and do a bunch of sit ups and then

go wear my six-pack abs or you go
you know i had that green smoothie my

cholesterol should be fine that one
time you know it is that's a snapshot

somebody did say to me yesterday
i had a salad this week i was this

week it it is a constant.

Yeah commitment to things it's
not and it's not that oh, you have

that coke or you have that big mac
and now you're doomed right on the

same token right but how what is
the sum total of how we're living.

Right and and you need to look at a big
view of that so you know on one hand

don't beat yourself up if you slip up
right but on the other hand what are

you doing on the Daily Weekly Monthly
yearly to improve your longstanding

health and i think cupping could be.

A significant part of that you learn
the techniques you're able to help

yourself and your family and friends
and that that's something that you

now have ownership of right there's no
there's no additional cost 11 you learn

how to use it you get some supplies and
and that to me makes a great Medicine

it

you said.

No you

know i believe in all the
things we talking about yeah ya.

Ah, i have been mostly working from home
for the past seven i usually in the clinic

and about two months ago i was all
of a sudden in the clinic every day.

Ya en this particular clinic
i can't wait to one i have a

in an office building on
the second story window open

and hay when i was creating my wellness
lifestyle was very about things like

morning sun like getting outside nature.

The point the goal just became so

that i didn't even realize how much
time i was outside during the just out

i.

The first two weeks i was sudden

ya i could feel the inflamation
i was exhausted i was a i

know enough to know you after.

Rid of symptoms years ago i know people
ask me all the time you misdiagnosed

you know and I'm like no if i went back
to how i was living i would totally

be diagnosable again so i had to

the next

and not fluorescent lines and all
the things you know but it was

such a good reminder for me of.

Really how impactful just in nature and
and how been created to live into our life

so i love we lost touch with that like.

Haven't able to successfully
years last summer i made

yeah

all the time

very different right it's very different
when you are Growing it it's very

different when your body's organized yeah

was it season was it because i we
i don't know but i couldn't that

probably combination of everything

right i don.

No it there so much that we have
moved away from helping move back

and having this Conversations the
things that people really you know

morning sun sleep aj absolutely

it is so crazy that we're
questioning that i remember.

Uh you know like in the fifties right.

You know formula came
out right and they like.

Oh, don't do that disgusting act
you know use this thing in a can and

then like you know like nine out of
ten Doctors prefer came lights you

know exactly around the time right
do and who did it who did it affect.

Not just the boomers
it's fucking us up like

can say you can say whatever you want

I've been I've been good so far you should
hear me you should hear me in clinic

we keep it real here you know i

i think i think that's it right.

Uh, we we say the the my
my favorite expression.

Uh from our Classical text is
acupunctures and expression of humanity.

So not only do i have to be who i am i
have to honor who you are and there's

that dance there's this interaction.

And that's gonna be different if you
see a different practitioner that's

gonna be different with a different
patient but we have to honor that

to be able to get somebody results

absolutely and also not everybody is
the right fit for everybody oh, no.

I'm not everybody's acupuncture
somewhat aware of not

everybody's sure you know so it is
no i agree if we're not showing up

genuinely we're not helping anybody.

And that's why i have three associates
because they're all very different

you know like you don't like me.

Oh, you want somebody quieter over there

ya

it's so true.

It's so true amazing well at the

know I'm gonna ask which is

can be anything what is one thing.

Ah ya so this this one comes with a
caveat you have to be consistent ah

and it doesn't have to be long every
time a más some variation of this

question my answer is always meditate.

Ah you know i can't think of a more
long term health practice that is

free accessible to everyone and will
help with just about every goddamn

thing we talked about here yeah.

Right you know

and it costs absolutely nothing and if
you are trying to stack it with other

things you know walk outside put your
feet on do it early in the morning and

catch the natural red light yeah you
can stack all those things together but

develop et consistent doesn't have to
be long we just i trust you know like

a ten breaths don't even don't even.

Set a timer if you can't sit
down right but that will build

it will become part of your life.

Ah, I've been trying to meditate
since nineteen ninety four.

Ah, i just hit two thousand Twenty
days consecutively this morning.

Uh amazing.

The impact of having that consistency
has given me some insight into it

and i can't point to when i felt the
benefit o even like quantify exactly

how much i feel but i know my head is
working better i know my body's working

better and it was because of that.

Im sorry i i want i wanna
preach about that all day

s it like really because it

because all of those res have
every it's too hard i can i love

that you said i a it's a practice.

You don have to get

you'll never you will
never not have a thought

i I'm gonna say that
you don't have a thought

all the time while you are meditating the
idea is not to be attached to it and to

let it go and be gentle with yourself yeah

you know.

So many so many when people about my
the beginning of my what was the thing

and i i wanted to everything i didn't do
things one at a time but when i finally.

Created a consistent Meditation
practice was the first time over decade

my pain better you i don know how
i know it reduce inflamation and.

So

i i i i will tell you uh i i hope I'm
not outing myself too much i i was

talking with a a licensed social worker

and she goes

oh, my god you have so much going
on what do you do to relax i go.

Oh, oh.

Don't worry i meditate every day

and i just kept

going.

Ah she's like you don't slow down
though I'm like no you gotta i got i

only got so much time on this planet
and i wanna be able to do things yeah

you know so I'm

gonna do the things to take care of
myself so i can get that stuff done

we have.

So can so we can impact others and
thank you and giving improve not just

their Physical health but their lives

yeah

thank you.

Oh, thank you so much and i i
had if you can't tell i had.

On the

i told you i i was like.

Oh, this is gonna be so good

maybe you'll come back and join
us again more than happy i there

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