Strategy is the topic of this week's episode but James isn't alone, as Paul and Jamie sit down with Method's owner to discuss how business owners, entrepreneurs and heads of departments should be structuring their strategy. We break down the essentials for any strategy to help keep things simple and effective!
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James: Hello and welcome to another
episode of Behind the Madness, I'm
your host, James Roberts, founder, and
owner of Method, a growth agency who
are hell bent on unlocking company's
potential through graphic design and
branding, web design development, digital
marketing, and lead generation and
automation and time-saving techniques.
Today it's not just me.
I'm joined by Jamie and Paul both have
Method fame who will be joining me to
talk about business strategy and why
it's so important for business growth.
Onto today's topic, why
business strategy is so important
to, for business growth.
Today, as I mentioned, I'm
joined by Jamie say hello, Jamie.
Jamie: Hey guys Good to be here
James: and Paul.
Paul: Hi, it's good to be here.
James: Jamie and Paul have
obviously been working with us as
part of the team here at method.
And I thought rather than you having to
listen to me all the time on this podcast,
it's about time I roped some of them in.
So here they are.
Jamie is generally pushing me to get
the next podcast out anyway, Jamie is
in charge of our social media and a lot
of the strategy around that, which is
why he is perfect for today's subject.
And Paul does about everything else
within the business from looking after
our HubSpot installs to making sure
that again, I'm doing what I should be.
So today let's start off with what
we're defining as business strategy.
So I'm guessing we're talking about
the longterm goals for the whole
business here, I guess, Jamie,
not just sales or marketing or any
divisions, we're looking at business
strategy for the whole company.
Jamie: Yeah, James, it's mainly about
getting people to identify with a goal and
then utilizing business strategy is often
used as a word, but business planning,
making sure they can have that plan
in place to hit those goals long term.
So like you said, we're going to talk a
bit about goals, a bit about the strategy
of how people may get that and some of
the key components that we think would be
really important to make up your strategy.
James: Perfect.
Does a business strategy have to be
something that's set in stone or can it be
something which we can have as a working
document that we can kind of come back to?
How do you see that?
Would we have a business strategy?
That is a long-term goal that we
can't shift or is that generally
something that , will change over time?
Jamie: Yeah, I think that's a really
interesting point because if there's
anyone over there who has got a strategy
that hasn't changed throughout that
business then I'd love them to kind
of get in touch because I want to
make them the goals should stay pretty
solid and foundational because that's
kind of the vision of the business
where it's pushing onto long term.
So whether it's an increase in revenue
and increase in brand awareness,
whatever that goal is is your target.
So that should stay pretty solid.
Like anything in business, it's going
to be as agile as anything, but the
flexibility within the strategy,
the how you're going to get that
is the really important stay agile
stay flexible because, as you know,
James, as a business owner, day to
day, everything can be different.
So especially in the times we've
experienced in the last two
years, staying agile is key.
James: Paul and I a couple of years
ago now, I think, but went on a sales
training with HubSpot, just so we could
understand how their processes work
and how they did a lot of their sales.
They were very much a round setting these
goals in place and certainly with, sales,
making sure that people were, really
adapting, these business strategies.
And focusing more on
the goals as a business.
For example, if you take the
railroad, their goal was to transport
goods from one side of America
in this instance to the other.
So the best way to transport
goods from one side of the
country to the other was via rail.
But when other systems came into play
that were better than the railroad.
The fat cats who were making all their
money, couldn't see that change and
wanted to continue making all their money.
So their goal actually became
the railroad, not to transport
goods, as easily as possible.
I guess here, we've got to be flexible
enough to understand that change.
And this is where you've got to understand
and adapt as a company and not be set
in stone that you are too stubborn to
change, which can then be your downfall.
And so I guess where the
failing is and can come in.
So I guess we're looking at adapting,
adapting that business strategy but
also something which we can break down
into smaller chunks, to kind of get
that this business plan is very much,
I guess it could be a five-year plan.
It could be a 10 year plan, I
guess, I guess the timeframe doesn't
necessarily matter, but then we can
start to look at smaller challenges
of smaller tasks within that bigger
goal and break those down for them.
in terms of breaking down these,
these bigger business plans, one of
the things that we obviously look at
and it's very much a coined within
a, a marketing sense smart goals.
So, Paul, do you want to talk to
us a little bit about smart goals?
Paul: So basically a smart goal is it's an
acronym, so it's a specific, measurable,
attainable, relevant, and time bound.
With a smart goal, you're increasing
your odds for success by verifying
that was goal as achievable.
You're identifying metrics that define
the success and you're creating a
roadmap to, reach those metrics.
James: Cool.
So we've also just as a, as a little
interlude, we have a download all
about smart goals on our website.
So if you go to the resources tab
on our website, hellomethod.co.uk
scroll down a little bit.
You will find smart goals as a
little template that you can follow.
But what I want to do quickly, if
I can, is just to give you, let's
say an example of a smart goal.
As Paul says, smart goals are
something that's achievable that
you can work to in a timeframe.
So you might have a number of smart
goals to reach your business plan, but
let's say you're looking at blog traffic.
So blog traffic is your goal.
So to be specific you want to boost
your blogs traffic by increasing
your weekly publishing frequency from
let's say five to eight times a week.
Then measurable would be something.
How can we measure that?
What we're looking for let's
say an 8% increase in traffic.
Attainable, your blog is
increased 5% last month.
So when we increased our weekly
publishing, we could actually see
that increase in blog, traffic.
Relevance, well, we want to
increase our blog traffic.
So we want to boost our brand
awareness by generating more leads.
So it's massively relevant to increase
those blogs and the frequency of our
blogging, and time-bound where we want
to get it done by the end of this month.
So we have a nice little smart
goal that has all of the ticks
that Paul mentioned earlier.
So now we understand a little bit
around kind of some elements which
are within the our business plan.
I think Jamie, you mentioned earlier
about the Goldilocks point, which is
being able to find a balance, which is
something that's just right, where you're
not spending too much time planning and
you're not spending too much time just
doing, you have that middle ground where
you've got a business plan that has had
enough around it to formulate something
that you can actually do and stick to.
And you, haven't also rushed ahead
to execute that plan without having
enough kind of foresight beforehand.
So Jamie, if you would, let's have
a look at some of the things that we
might include in our business plan.
What steps would we take?
Jamie: So there's three main steps.
James I'd make sure any businesses
trying to really now, when they're
looking at that business strategy,
first one is making sure that
they're identifying the problem.
So a lot of companies fall in love
with their solutions, but it's
making sure that they are identifying
what problem they are solving.
So whether it is to alleviate a pain
point or to add value into someone's
life, through delight, making sure you're
really clear and have clarity on that
is pivotal because that's your offering.
That's your value.
Then it's about who for, so this is where
tools like a buyer persona and customer
journey mapping are really key because
they allow you to identify and emphasize.
Who you are creating that value for.
That will then lend itself to
your sales strategy or your
marketing strategy and gives you
and your team a big picture of it.
And then the last one is about the brand.
Making sure you have your core
values identify the culture you want
to address with, and also the USP.
So whatever makes your brand different,
because that will influence the how
so you take those three elements.
So your buyer persona, problem,
and the value creation and also
your core values as a brand.
And you work out how you are
going to address where you are
now to where you're going next.
So with the strategy, we can use something
called a bridge model, which is where
you've identified, where you want to be
like Paul discussed with the smart goals.
You now know where you are, and
then it's about drawing that
bridge across to identify how
you're going to get from a, to b.
James: And using your bridge
analogy, I guess if we don't have
any parts of that, then your whole
business plan falls over because
you don't know who you're targeting.
You don't know really the problem
then that you're trying to fix
for somebody and your values.
I think values are something
that we come back to all the
time where we help businesses.
We help businesses grow.
We help the business become the
best versions of themselves.
That is quite a wide scope that we have,
but our skillset is obviously through more
creative services or marketing services
and obviously the design, et cetera.
That's where we can help an ad the most,
the most benefit to kind of companies.
I guess in turn, those steps,
Jamie, that you mentioned, the
buyer personas the problem, the core
values are almost the other way.
Round people generally know that their
kind of core values, they know the
problem that they're trying to solve.
And the buyer personas then can be created
alongside that problem that they're trying
to solve, they will then realize who those
buyers are for that problem, is that the
way you would kind of break that down.
Jamie: Yeah, absolutely.
I think those three as you've
identified are really key.
Making sure a business does
what a business needs to do.
And having that breakdown just allows
you to build that bridge and build
out the house because everyone's
going to do a different house.
If we look at some really good examples
of business strategy and we'll take a
local brand, Gymshark, they built out the
strategy on sending t-shirts and sending
gym gear to YouTubers, others, and people
on social platforms that they admired.
And those people then wore them on their
channels and the inception of influencer
marketing kind of really kicked on.
But these guys were doing that as part
of their strategy, part of their, how,
before that was kind of labeled a term.
So that's how they identify the USP that
they wanted to do and it really worked.
James: Are we trying to get Gymshark
to send us a load of merchandise?
Is that they start that plug there?
Jamie, we were all should we just give
the address as well while we're at it?
Jamie: with that in mind, I
would like to just say make
a comment about under Armour.
James: Yup.
Apple let's mention a few others.
So that's just, I mean, the
more we can open ourselves up to
the more, the more we can get,
everybody knows that we love Lego.
So let's let's mention a few more brands
and then we'll, and then we'll move on to
to kind of the reasons that people fail.
Obviously what we're talking about
as well with this, with this brand
plan, this grand brand business plan.
We're not excluding anybody.
And this is what people often think with
certainly with buyer personas is that,
well, hang on a minute, if I'm focusing
so much on this buyer persona than
what about the others who come about?
Well, we're not saying we're
going to exclude anybody here.
This is what we're going to
use to meet this big goal.
This is what we want to achieve, and
this is the best way of doing that.
Other people are still going to come along
and have touchpoints with your brand or
with your business and still buy from
you because you're not excluding anybody.
This is just the best route
forward for that long-term goal.
And again, those smart goals might
break that up a little bit more.
My main point, there again is, was
not excluding anybody from buying it's
just more targeted towards the bigger
mass where these people are and we're
putting all of our effort into that and
then over time, the goal might change.
The persona might change.
We might add an extra buyer persona,
but you don't have to have one.
But you know, you, we're trying
to maximize your effort here
and we're trying to focus on the
best plan to get those results.
And if you're focusing on 5, 6, 7
buyer personas, that's a lot of work.
So prove one, then look at automation
of how you might be able to keep
that moving while looking at
maybe then the next buyer persona.
Once you've proven that
journey, the first time.
Jamie: I'm going to jump in there
James, because I think that's a
really important point because an
analogy I'd like to use is a toolbox.
When you have a toolbox, you may have a
project in mind, whether it's building
a shed or just putting up a shelf and
you'll have different tools in that
to tools take on the task at hand,
but that doesn't mean what you have in
your toolbox won't be good, like future
projects, but also you may not have the
tool when the future project comes along.
And so therefore you need
to replenish that toolbox.
And so as James says, if a new
persona becomes your demographic and
that is whether the value is better
suited, and that doesn't mean you
can't get rid of some of the old
tools and bring it to the new one.
It's about staying flexible, but making
sure that you do have something that
roadmap that you can follow throughout
Paul: Buyer personas that are
an ideal customer, essentially.
Like james said, the you're
not excluding everyone else.
But they're the ones
that you want to target.
They're the ones that you want to put
the money into advertising to, you'll
catch other people along the way.
But they're, the target
market essentially.
James: So now we've got that kind of
outlined we've all know companies,
big, small who have failed to really
change or look at their business strategy
and change that business strategy.
And I think that is where most businesses
will fail is not being able to adapt.
And if you don't have the business plan
in the first place, then obviously you,
you can't revisit that and see what's
going wrong, but also having a business
plan that you are so stubborn too,
that you can't see what is changing
around your marketplace, or even in
the wider net, new tools, new ideas
might come into the mix where people
are buying on different platforms.
They might be visiting you in different
ways and sticking to that I think
is going to, it's going to cost you.
Paul: Yeah.
Blockbuster Video is a
great example of this
So with Blockbuster video, they had
shops where you'd go and select to
video or DVD to rent off the shelf.
After spending half an hour or so
deciding what you wanted to watch,
then you'd go and buy some of their
expensive popcorn, take home and watch it.
After you'd watched it, you'd
drop it back off at the shop.
There are a few online DVD rental
companies that merged to create
a blockbuster through the post.
You'd go onto their website,
select a film within a day or two.
You'd get the DVD through the post and
you post it back when you'd watched it?
No, there's no late fees.
But you couldn't rent another
one until you sent that one back.
that fairly quickly turned digital through
streaming services like Netflix emerged.
Which were instant, the monthly
fee thousands of films choose from.
Jamie: It's a great story because
I think Mark Randolph and Reed
Hastings, who are the founders of
Netflix really identified that problem
that we're identifying earlier.
Like, I dunno if you remember Paul
but Blockbusters use have extortionate
late fees and also going in and kind of
being like, oh, I want to watch the new
Avengers film or something like that.
If Joe down the road had it out
and they only had one copy, so
straight away you're out of luck.
Paul: So I think especially with the sort
of the top new films that had several
sort of five or six copies, like you
say, there was a popular film they're
out you had to find something else to
watch where blockbusters went wrong is
that they didn't think that the digital
age would take off as much as it did.
They thought people liked the
experience of walking into their
shops, spending time, trying to find
a film, and didn't adapt to a mail
order or a streaming service, they
could have quite easily have done that.
They had the ins with the film industry.
There were a massive customer, so they
could quite easily have set up a streaming
service themselves, but they just didn't
have the foresight to do that others
did and sort of became the standard.
Jamie: I'm going to jump in here and put
James on the spot to there for you guys as
a business owner why do you think people
wouldn't look to adapt when the technology
is evolving, what would be the barriers?
Would it just be arrogance or
would that be stuck in your ways?
What kind of things do you think.
Paul: Was there a too
big to fail aspect to it?
James: So I think in terms of blockbuster,
I think there was an arrogance.
I don't think they thought that everybody
who had video players or anything in their
homes were going to really just abandon
them overnight I think they would have
probably thought that the, you know, the
internet streaming services weren't up
to speed or people wouldn't be streaming
it that quickly in their house as it
happened it was very, very much overnight.
The infrastructure was there.
So I think in their terms, I think
they believed that it would have
been around for a lot longer.
And didn't have their eyes fully
open, I mean, that is going from
something which is very much a
physical product into a digital world
when they were very, very analog.
Everything that they did was very analog.
So it was a little bit
of the unknown for them.
We, we've always been
very lucky that we are.
Small as well.
They're a large organization, which to be
able to pivot like Ross from friends will
let you know isn't just a nineties pun.
Wouldn't be able to, to move as quickly
as say we can, we're a small company.
We don't go to a board to make decisions.
We pretty much all get on a slack call
and decide which route we like and which
route we think we're going to go for.
And we can change very, very quickly
and adapt very, very quickly.
And we do, we are constantly changing how
we operate to stay up to date with that.
Now it's harder the bigger the company is
because there's a lot of decisions to be
made which can impact that bottom line and
a huge amount of staff very, very quickly.
If you take for example, all of
those shops and all of the staff,
which initially was shut down
anyway, there is a, probably a due
diligence of care there as well.
They are probably thinking about
their staff who, if they all
went online are the jobs there?
Certainly not to the same degree.
So I think it is.
I mean, we'll never,
we'll never really know.
We probably could find out, but I think
from my point of view, it was harder to
make those decisions then then it is for
smaller companies to adapt, but again,
it will also come down to the owners.
We are very, we're very changeable.
And I'm very, open-minded, yes.
A business owner has to make
the final decision because it's
got a rest on his shoulders.
And I think that we do, if
it fails, it's my fault.
It's nobody within the company's fault.
But at the same token, if anybody comes
to me with an idea that we maybe should
be going down this route or going
down that route, they can come to me
and it will certainly entertain it.
Again, yeah, it's easier being
a smaller company though.
So in summary, our business plan
or strategy has to be adaptable.
It has to have a long-term goals that
we can stick to and achieve those
goals through smaller Smart goals
or smaller little tasks that we can
run alongside this overview, which
is really for the whole business.
I think we've also said that we have to
find that nice Goldilocks point where
we can spend a good amount of time to
build up a business plan or a business
strategy, but also have something
that we can act on, but not running
into that, into those action points.
We want to not be fixed or
set on a particular plan.
We've got to keep going back to our goal.
Let's think about the, the railroad and
keep going back to, what are we trying
to achieve and what do we want to do?
But as a whole, I think, you know, really
focusing down on your core values, your
problem, and your buyer persona will
help massively, your buyer personas
are going to change over time their
needs, their challenges, the way they
want to get information from you or
buy your products is going to change.
So I think as a key takeaway, focus on
them and learn from them, listen to them.
No matter the size of the
company, speak to your customers.
If you're right at the top, take the
time to go and speak to your customers.
Then you're going to be more
ready to change and not fall into
the trap that blockbuster did.
So once again, it's been nice to have
the boys with me to help me through
another podcast and, to push me
through, to recording another one.
Jamie: Thanks, James.
Paul: Thanks for having us.
James: And remember we have some
downloads on some smart goals.
There are some other really
interesting things around business
planning as well, which are there
as a resources from our website.
So do jump on there.
hellomethod.co.uk, and then the resources
tab will be available to download
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until next time take care.
Bye for now.