Limitless Podcast with Deanna Herrin

After 33 years of marriage, I’ve learned a few things… and not all of them were easy to face.

In today’s episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on something that changed everything in my relationship—and it wasn’t about changing him. It started with a deeper look at my own healing, my triggers, and the quiet stories I was believing without even realizing it.

This conversation might surprise you. We’re talking about what your husband may not know how to say, the ways emotional wounds show up in a marriage (without anyone meaning to), and how understanding just one core truth shifted everything for us.

If you’ve ever felt like there’s a disconnect you can’t quite name in your relationship... if you’ve ever wondered why your needs feel unmet even when he’s “doing all the things”… or if you’re just tired of carrying the emotional weight alone—this episode is for you.

There’s something deeper happening here. Let’s talk about it.

Important note: This message is not meant for relationships where abuse—emotional, physical, or otherwise—is present. In those situations, your safety and healing are of the utmost importance and come first.



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You’ll uncover what’s truly driving the disconnection in your relationship—and how to begin shifting it from the inside out.  This is about doing the deep inner work that leads to emotional safety, clarity, and real change.

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You are listening to the
limitless podcast. I'm your

host. Deanna Herron, what if you
had no limitations keeping you

from your dream life in 2016 I
had a major tug on my heart to

write a book about my story, and
in the process, I learned that I

had been operating with a very
faulty belief system for the

majority of my life. I've had a
huge transformation since then,

and my life's passion and
mission is to teach you how to

live a limitless life. Join me
on this journey. Let's get

started.

Hello and welcome back to the
limitless Podcast. I'm so glad

you're here. What an honor. I'm
so happy to be here with you on

this Tuesday. So if you're new
to this podcast, we talk about

all kinds of things. We talk
about your relationship in your

marriage. We talk about your
relationship with yourself. We

talk about your relationship
with money, your business, et

cetera, my job, my passion, my
mission, is to help you free

yourself of the constraints that
are holding you back in your

mind, those stories that we are
telling ourselves over and over

and over that are lack and
limitation that is not your

truth, my friend, because your
truth is you are truly

limitless. There are no
limitations that have been

placed on you, except for those
that we have chosen to believe

about ourselves. So welcome
back, divine, loves. I'm so glad

you're here. Today's topic is,
if you've been with me for a

while, you know that there has
been a tremendous amount of

healing that has happened in my
marriage over 33 years, and we

are in the best place that we
have been in our marriage, even

those really beginning years.
And all of the you know, love

and affection and all of the
butterflies in your stomach type

of love, we are in such a better
place than than we have ever

been. And it really is because I
went through my spiritual

psychology certification. It was
a two year certification, really

doing some inner work and
healing, and some things that I

needed to heal within myself,
within some relationships with

my mother, and some some other
relationships as well. After I

did that healing, I recognized,
wow, there's one relationship

that I really need to do some
work. I'm triggered here a lot.

What I find with women is that
we get triggered a lot when we

are entrepreneurs in business,
and we also get triggered in our

marriage. And so I think our
marriage is one of the one of

the biggest areas of our lives
where we are constantly being

triggered. And I want you to
understand that the basis of

everything that I do is every
relationship in your life is

here for you to learn areas
where you are not free, you will

continue to be presented with
circumstances and people that

will trigger you in a way that
lets you know I'm not free in

this area, and that actually
happened in my marriage, where I

recognized, wow, I've done all
of this work, but I'm definitely

not free because I was being
triggered all The time in my

marriage, and I made the
decision that whatever happens

in my marriage, and I definitely
didn't want it to go south, for

sure, but I just remember
thinking, whatever happens in my

marriage, I want to be whole and
healed in the fact that I'm

still feeling some triggers. I'm
not whole and healed. And I

began to do the work on myself,
releasing the stories that I was

making those triggers mean about
me, and it actually has

completely transformed our
marriage. Completely transformed

our marriage to the point where
my husband has started to do his

inner work, which that has never
been his forte, whatsoever, and

it's opened up a whole new
goodness, just avenue for us to

actually talk about healing, to
for him to feel safe about

sharing those things that he
feels and experiences, et

cetera. And those were never
anything that we would talk

about, and it has just brought a
whole different level of

intimacy. I share all of that
with you, to let you know that

wherever you are in your
relationship, it can change, and

even if you have been trying to
fix your husband and he just is

not willing to do the work, my
friend, you can heal you. You

can be a different person just
by doing your own inner work and

recognizing what those triggers
are meaning about you. Not only

is it going to help you, but it
will help your marriage in

tremendous amounts of ways.
Perhaps your husband will

decide, man, I need to do some
work my wife has has completely

transformed. Or perhaps there
will be a point in your marriage

where you realize you're just
going in two separate ways, and

I would recommend you do the
work before you make that

decision. I am not one that is a
proponent of leaving a marriage

unless there's harm in some way,
but there are situations where,

if you're growing and you're
healing and you're evolving, you

may have a decision that you
need to make. I share this with

you to share as. Mark and I have
been on this journey together.

There are certain things that I
have learned about the wounds

that we hold in our bodies, and
I'm talking specifically today

about the Father wound, and I
want to explain to you about

what the mother wound is as
well, because chances are you

have it as well. The majority of
the population does, and it's

fine nothing that our mothers
intentionally did to us, and I'm

sure that I've passed that on to
my children as well, because I

repeated what information I was
given, and you're going to do

the same. And that's how we
break the generational curses,

right? When we know better, we
can do better. So the father

wound is something that I really
started to understand that when

I was seeing it in my husband,
and I think sometimes when we

understand actually what they're
going through, we can see them

through a different set of eyes,
and different set of eyes with

compassion. And this has helped
me tremendously in my marriage,

because I was able to see my
husband through a completely

different set of eyes, and
knowing, wow, this makes sense.

There is a father wound there,
or there's a mother wound there,

and that's why this happens with
him, and there have been times

when actually we're having a
discussion, and I recognize

within my husband, while this
isn't my husband that's speaking

right now, this is actually the
seven or eight year old version

of him, and it just opens up
your heart for a different level

of compassion. You guys, men are
not taught to work on their

stuff. They're just not they are
taught to stuff their emotions,

dry it up. Get better. Okay, off
be strong. You're a man. Be

strong. And so if we can help
them along the way, we're not

responsible for their healing.
Please don't take that away from

this podcast, because that is in
no way what I'm saying, and will

ever say he's responsible for
his healing, but we can open our

hearts and have a level of
compassion and help guide them

in that direction. The purpose
of this podcast is to educate

you so that you can see what may
be happening within your

husband, but also to see what's
happening within you when it

comes to the mother, father
wound. Always, if you have gone

through my programs, any of my
programs with marriage or

mindset, etc, I'm always happy
for you to share that with your

spouse, whatever it takes for
the two of you to be whole and

healed. Remember, every
relationship is here for us to

grow and evolve, and you and
your husband have a divine

connection, and that divine
connection is for you guys to

grow and evolve together. That
is a different message than what

we've ever been taught in this
life, but that is the truth we

are here. You attracted this man
physically, I'm sure, but you

attracted him on a spiritual
level as well, and that's what I

want to speak to, is that
spiritual level, that spiritual

level is actually the bond that
you guys have, that you are here

to help each other grow and
evolve to your soul's mission.

And if everyone could see that,
I think we would be in a

different place when it comes to
how we react in our

conversations with our spouse.
So let's dive into this. Let's

look at the father wound and
what that may look like within

your spouse. But I also want you
to use it as what you may be

going through as well. So
there's a father wound. The

father the place in your life.
The father is the provider of

strength. The father is the
person who gives guidance. The

Father is our protector, and the
Father is someone who prepares

you for the world. Okay, so I
want you to think of that

strength, that protection, that
guidance, that prepares you for

the world. Now, some of you
right now may be saying, well,

my father wasn't that. That's
the father wound for me, my

father was physically not around
at three years old. I didn't see

him again until I was 18, and
then I didn't see him again

until I was 40, so my father was
not around. So I had some

abandonment issues from my
father. Those were the stories

that I made up about myself,
that I am abandoned now he

remember we are responsible for
what happens within us. The

other person is responsible for
their actions. All we're talking

about here is from the spiritual
perspective, is what our part

is, okay? So the mother, the
mother is our source of love.

The mother is the nurturer, the
one who gives affection and

really nurtures the heart. So
it's so funny that I'm actually

talking about this because we
have a brand new puppy within

the last week. And my goodness,
I have actually forgotten how

hard it is to have a puppy. It's
been 16 years since we have had

a puppy in our house, and I'm
going to tell you, it's very

interesting, because this dog is
supposedly my husband's dog, but

what has ended up happening is I
am the one to take care of this

puppy. And it goes back to the
mother, the nurturer, the source

of love, right? And the man is
the one that gives the strength,

the guidance, the protection,
and prepares you for the world.

So it's innate in us as women to
be their nurturer of all things.

And so I have put that mother
role on with this new little

puppy. And when it comes to the
nurture. Inside, my husband will

just hand the puppy over to me
and say, What does he want? I

don't know what he wants. And so
maybe you can relate to that.

When it comes to your children.
There are some men that do have

that, that nurturing ability,
but most men, they were

programmed, conditioned from
their family of origin to be

that person of strength,
guidance and protection. So a

father wound may look like this.
A father wound can look like

you're trying to be seen by
maybe a father that was

physically not there. Or you're
trying to be seen by a father

who was emotionally not there.
He may be present but maybe not

engaged. And this causes us
really to go into the mode of

proving our worth through
achievement. Yes, that's where

that comes from. We prove our
worth. Well, he's not here for

me. So if I do this, if I become
this, then I will get the

accolades. Then he will want to
say, Atta boy. Okay, so we seek

to prove our worth. In our mind,
the father represents the

authority, the source of the
validation. And so when that

father is absent, there's a
sense of abandonment, there's a

sense of a little bit of
coldness. And sometimes when

that father puts relentless
pressure on us, we actually lose

our sense of self worth. So
Father wound shows up as low

self esteem due to feeling
unworthy. The Father wound shows

up as someone who's an over
achiever seeking the father's

approval over and over but never
quite measuring up. That's how

it shows up for women. We seek
out unconsciously. So we're not

aware of this, but we seek out
unconsciously men who are

unavailable emotionally and
physically. See how that

measures up in your life. We
seek out men if we have a father

wound, we seek out men who are
emotionally and physically

unavailable for us. For men, the
father wound shows up as low

self esteem. They're chasing
worth and value. So think of a

man who's constantly seeking
affirmations. That's his love

language, that's what he's
always looking he's chasing his

worth and value. This in a man
could be a very masculine man,

or a man that has more feminine
characteristics. And what I mean

by this is more energetically,
the you know, the nurturing

side, etc, and more masculine,
more the strong you know, one

that is the res, the responsible
one, the protector, the guider,

etc. So I'm speaking more of
energetically than I am physical

when I say masculine and
feminine. So for men, they also

they won't have any boundaries
if they have a father wound, no

boundaries, and sometimes
there's too much openness.

They're either completely closed
off emotionally and physically,

or they're too open about
things. A man with a father

wound has a story, and the story
is a false narrative that says

I'm always doing something
wrong. And let me tell you, and

I I'm going to be very blunt
here, what men think, what men

think, what your husband is
probably saying in his mind,

not, I am always doing something
wrong. It doesn't sound like

that. And allow me to be
explicit here, a man says, I'm

always fucking up. That's truly
what he believes. He truly

believes. And he says that in
his mind over and over and over.

This is a man who did not get
his emotional needs met as a

boy, as a little boy, and when
he didn't get his emotional

needs met as a little boy, he's
in that over achiever mode. And

if he doesn't get the
affirmations, if he doesn't get

the approval, and if he feels
like he's constantly doing

something wrong, it doesn't
matter what you said to him five

minutes ago about how amazing he
is. It doesn't matter if it goes

into his trigger, he's
automatically going to erase all

of the wonderful things that
you've said about him, and he's

going to think that he is
totally messing up all the time,

all the time again. I'm not
sharing this with you so that

you can hold yourself back or
that you're responsible for his

healing. I'm sharing this with
you because I want you to be

able to see what's happening
within him. Okay? And like I

said, if you are in some of my
marriage programs or any of my

programs, I highly recommend
that you share it with with your

spouse. So here's what a man
looks like. This is how he

behaves in his relationship when
he does have a father wound.

Okay, so maybe you've noticed
this, and it probably has

triggered. You because remember,
it's a divine connection when

you feel triggered, that is your
opportunity, as you're being

taught, this is an area where
you are not free if you're still

being triggered. So one of the
things that happens with a man

who has a father wound is he
will meet your physical needs.

He will probably go above and
beyond to meet your physical

needs. He is the one that is
constantly doing doing for you,

whether you it's the right
things that he's doing for you,

but he's constantly doing things
but he does not meet your

emotional needs. He does not
know how to emotionally connect.

And the reason why he doesn't
know how to emotionally connect

is he's he never had an
emotional connection with his

father. There was no emotional
connection there. So he actually

doesn't have the skill set. And
I think what most of us, I don't

think I know most of us women,
when we have a conversation

about our marriage, and I see
this with with all the women

that I coach, one of the things
that they say is, I have them

list all of the great things
that they would love to have in

an ideal partner. And the
interesting thing is, their

spouse has 80% of those, 80% of
those, but they're focused on

the 20% and the 20% is, I just
don't feel like we have a

connection. And they don't know
how to put the words to it. But

the connection that is missing
is the emotional connection, the

connection where there's an
equal exchange of giving and

receiving of emotions, okay, so
they meet your physical needs,

but not your emotional needs. So
there's a lack of an emotional

connection. Like, what are you
going through during the day?

What are some of your upsets?
What happened to you day today

that you know made you
disgruntled, you know, having

conversations about their day
and them sharing with us, it's

very foreign to them. They don't
know how to do that. Like on a

deep, intimate level, it stays
very superficial. Number two,

the second thing is, it's really
hard for them to show affection.

It's really hard for them to
show affection, and rarely do

they give praises or
compliments. It's because they

don't know how they never
received them themselves. They

don't know how. And I had this
conversation with my husband

about affection during the day,
and what he shared with me at

that moment absolutely changed
everything for me. He shared

with me how little the affection
he ever received as a boy, I had

no idea, absolutely no idea. So
having affection, giving

affection, was not something
that he was accustomed to doing.

Even though I would give
affection, he didn't understand

that he should reciprocate, that
that giving that to someone else

feels good because he doesn't.
He never got to experience that

from his father, from his
mother, etc. So they don't know

how to give that affection and
praises and compliments are

foreign to them because they
weren't. They didn't receive

those either. Number three, the
man that has a father wound has

this insatiable need to prove to
his partner that he's worth

loving this insatiable need. And
it looks something like this. It

looks like you are asking him
what you are needing. Can you

help me with this? Like I don't
feel loved by you. Can you do

this? And they start speaking
their own way of how they know

to love, and that's by doing. So
then they start doing things

more around the house. They
start doing more things around

the outside of the house. They
start doing things with the

kids. They start they know. They
just do. They don't know how to

be. And what I mean by be is to
show up in the way that you're

asking them, but they're
constantly seeking to prove that

they're worth loving, and it's
by doing. So ask yourself, have

there been times when we're just
missing the mark, like he's

doing this, I'm doing this, and
we're just he's not meeting my

needs, I'm not meeting his
needs, and it's because he's

speaking something different
than you need. But what he's

doing is he's trying to prove to
you that he's worth loving by

doing some all these things. And
I remember early on in our

marriage, I'm like, why is he
out mowing the yard and watering

the yard when I haven't seen him
all day? That to him was, I'm

gonna prove to her that I'm
worthy to have around. I've got

skills. I'm worthy to be loved.
And so we it's so interesting

because we take it as Anna
obviously doesn't want to spend

time with me. No, he doesn't
know how to spend time with you.

All he knows how to do is to
prove his value to you by doing.

And he'll try to fix, he'll he
tries to fix all of our issues.

You know, that's what our spouse
does, and he sacrifices himself,

his own needs, in any way that
he can. And you probably see

that like he sacrifices his
needs, his wants and his

desires, because he's constantly
doing for other people. He's

constantly doing things for the
kids, doing things for you,

doing for other people. There's
literally not a whole. Out of

Balance for him, he's he's
constantly over doing to receive

that he's worthy of love. Number
four, he's always watching his

partner to see how he needs to
adjust his own behavior, what to

do, what to say, because he
doesn't want to say the wrong

thing. So he you may not notice
it, but he's just kind of

maneuvering things because he
doesn't know how to act. He

wants to make sure that he can
adjust his behavior so that he's

not doing or saying the wrong
thing at all times, because that

was a fear that was placed in
him at a younger age. He

believed that if he did the
wrong thing, that he wasn't

going to be loved. In that
sense, his childhood, his sense

of emotional safety actually
came from the people around her,

around him, and so if his
partner is okay, then he's good.

And I'll tell you what happens
if he's doing things around the

house to prove to you that he's
worthy of love, once he feels

like you are good, those things
that he was doing for you around

the house to prove that he's
worthy of love are going to

stop, and you're going to
wonder, what the heck is

happening here? Why do you start
and stop? Start and stop, start

and stop, because he's doing it
to make sure that you are okay.

And once everything is okay, he
stops doing those things because

he knows that you're no longer
anxious. It's just the pattern

that he's accustomed to. It is a
pattern. Lastly, number five, a

man who has a father wound. He
isolates you during arguments or

anything he views as difficult
to handle, he'll isolate you.

And in reality, what happens is
he feels under attack, and you

may not be attacking him
whatsoever. So he will

disengage, and he will go silent
for days or for weeks. Any of

those sound familiar again. Have
a level of compassion for where

he picked up those stories. How
he from a young boy, maybe his

father was not physically there,
emotionally there, whatever it

happens to be, he learned to
adapt. And he learned that that

his father, who was absent,
physically or emotionally, meant

something about him, so that
story with him needs to heal.

What this man needs is he needs
to know how to feel that anger

and that grief for that little
boy where the father was absent,

physically or emotionally, he
needs to learn how to nurture

his own body and his his nervous
system, just like we do. So what

I'm telling you for your spouse
are the same things I'm I'm

going to tell you in any any
program that I walk you through,

we have to learn to nurture our
safety. We have to learn to come

back to ourselves, because truly
what we're seeking the love and

acceptance that we're seeking in
the external world, we're

actually needing our own love
and acceptance. And learning to

come back to you is the key, and
it's one of the hardest, most

powerful things that I teach,
because the love and acceptance

that we want from other people
will never satisfy us. It will

always keep us looking for that
next thing, it's when you can

truly learn to love and accept
yourself, ground yourself and

really have a healthy central
nervous system, that's the only

way that you will feel safe.
Nobody else can make us feel

safe like that. It has to come
from from ourselves. We have to

feel safe with ourselves first
before we can feel safe with

somebody else and allow them in
in an intimate way. A husband

who has a father wound should
learn how to communicate with

his partner on what he's going
through, what he's feeling, so

that they can show up with each
other on this. This is a couple

who has actually done a lot of
inner work and recognized their

own part in the relationship and
started to healing their own

part in the relationship, a
couple who has stopped the blame

game and is really looking as
two separate individuals. What

is it that I need to heal? What
do I need to take responsibility

for that they can come together
and show up for each other?

That's an ideal partnership, and
then your partner, who has that

father wound, he needs to look
for evidence within himself that

he's good enough. He needs to
look for evidence within

himself, not from the outside
world. He's looking for that

still in the outside world. He
needs to come to terms with

himself, that he's good enough,
that the story that he is not

enough is not a true story. It's
an illusion created from a

circumstance, and the
circumstance has controlled him

for years and years and years,
and the story is now playing

over and over in his mind. The
true way to get rid of the

Father wound is to take
responsibility for the stories

that we've told ourselves and
heal those stories and recognize

there were stories that I made
up based on a circumstance, and

I've allowed that circumstance
to control me for way too long,

and I'm ready to release it, not
just release the story, but

release the person from the
story. And that is where true

forgiveness begins. I'm here for
you. I'm always here to help you

in. In any way. I hope this has
been extremely helpful for you.

Not only have you probably seen
it in your spouse, you've

probably seen it for you as
well. The father wound is a big

one. I love you. Thank you for
joining me, and I'll see you

next week. God bless you.

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