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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So here we are roughly two months into having Trump in the White House and having realistically strong control over what's happening, at the political level in DC. Yet a lot of us are banging our heads against the wall and asking, I think, the exact same question. When will the arrests begin?
Seth Holehouse:We saw what happened in 2020. We saw what happened in 2016 and 2017. We're now uncovering just massive amounts of corruption, not not just waste that, you know, that that that Doge is uncovering, but corruption, theft of taxpayer money, absolute absolute abuse of the power that these people, in a lot of sense, weren't even given. They were they stole these positions or they, you know, these bureaucratic positions that they gotta warm their way into. And this is, I think, like, the billion dollar question is when will the arrest begin?
Seth Holehouse:Because I think I can only wait so long of hearing, oh, don't worry. The Epstein files are coming. Oh, here's the JFK files. And, yeah, obviously, our own agencies and a lot of other agencies are complicit in assassinating or, you know, sitting president and everything that's being uncovered. Not to mention, he took, like, Dan Bongino, the guy that wrote the book on Spygate that exposed the the treasonous activity targeting Trump and a lot of other people.
Seth Holehouse:And, again, we're back to that question is when will there be justice? When will we see that? The all these empty beds at Guantanamo Bay, will they be filling up? And so joining us today is general Michael Flynn, who is someone who has been on the forefront of trying to bring justice, to this country, who has been at the receiving end of the deep state persecution. And while he doesn't have an active role in the Trump administration, I'm sure you regularly see videos of him, you know, right beside, you know, president Trump.
Seth Holehouse:Think there's a recent video of Trump kind of jokingly saying, I've tried hiring you 10 times over. So it's apparent that there's a relationship there, that, you know, I'd hope that, you know, that the general fund has some level of influence over Trump. I think that he does. But I'm just gonna ask the hard questions of when will the arrest begin because we wanna see justice, and it's not for, you know, the the sake of saying, I'm right, you're wrong, or no. It's like, we have to protect our constitution.
Seth Holehouse:And if we have people in positions of power that have knowingly gone against our own constitution, knowingly committed treason, and we don't within this window that we have under Trump, if we're not able to bring justice to these people, I mean, far as I'm concerned, where's America going after this? I mean, it's like if you have a child that never gets in trouble, and and they're they're never actually punished. There's just constant threats and threats and threats. You know, by the time they're they're, you know, 18 years old, they're gonna be stealing cars and doing drugs because it's like, oh, well, the rules don't apply to me. And so this is the conversation I've been waiting to have with general Flynn, and that's what we're gonna be talking about today.
Seth Holehouse:Before we jump in, though, just a few few quick notes. First off, if you're new to the show, welcome. Thank you for being here. So, obviously, you'll see in this interview that I talk a lot about, you know, high level politics and geopolitics. We also cover health and finance and, you know, economics.
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Seth Holehouse:I saw a bunch of new reviews on there, so thank you. For those of you that left that review on Apple Podcast, thank you. I really, really appreciate that. So let's go ahead and just dive right into this interview with, general Michael Flynn. And, I I hope you get some answers.
Seth Holehouse:I'm sure you do too. Please enjoy. General Flynn, it is always an honor to have you on the show. I I really appreciate you making the time for me. So thank you for being here.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Absolutely, Seth. It's great. Great to be with you and your wonderful audience too.
Seth Holehouse:Oh, thank you. So I know that we've got a tight timeline, so I wanna get straight to the cut straight to chase. And the question that I have is when are the arrests going to start? Because we've been waiting. We've got the JFK files.
Seth Holehouse:We have the Epstein files being dripped out. We've got all the Doge corruption. And I think so many of us, like yourself, that have seen, even since 2020, layer upon layer of fraud and and corruption and, I mean, way worse, treason. And, mean, for you, you know more than anybody the inside of what these operations look like from the DOJ, the, you know, different agencies. So what what how would you answer
Gen. Michael Flynn:Well, you know, so let's jump right into that because I I think, Seth, that's the $64,000 question. I get it every single day by by I I mean, you know, whatever time it is, it's, you know, twelve whatever. It's mid middle of the day. I probably have had that question asked to me a dozen times already today. I just spent the last five and a half days up in Washington DC.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Every single person I run into, both in government and outside government, know, and the ones in government are, you know, who I know because I've been around for a while and I know a lot of people that are in government, particularly in the intelligence community at a more junior level. Every single person asks me that same question. When is somebody going to be held accountable? And people do not, they're not wanting to see, you know, some low level FBI agent walked out of the New York field office. And actually, he wasn't low level.
Gen. Michael Flynn:He was assistant director, and he went out to the tune of bagpipes and people crying, you know, on his behalf. Right? He should have been arrested instead of instead of just simply fired. So when are people gonna be held accountable? That's the big question.
Gen. Michael Flynn:And I will tell you, we the American people right now are not gonna be satisfied with well, we know we are we have, you know, a couple of investigations ongoing because they're gonna go, wait a second. Wait a second. That's not why we that's not why why we put Donald Trump in office. We put Donald Trump in office to eliminate the deep state, to to go after these these people that committed treason, sedition, that conspired to undermine a duly elected president, that conspired to basically ruin this country way back in 2016 and 2017. That's all been well documented.
Gen. Michael Flynn:That's all discovered in various legal cases to include mine. You know, parts of the Durham report from way back when we cannot have another, you know, couple of years go by and nothing happens. And I want people to remember is just like in 2017 when Trump took over the White House in 2017, and I was out in a couple of weeks. But but when he took over in 2017, the House of Representatives was under the Republican leadership, the Senate was under the Republican leadership exactly as it is right now. And these these guys in the in congress, you know, they're they're worried about their next recess instead of, you know, taking some of these actions that the president is signing as executive orders and running them through, like, on a fast track to get them signed off as law in some cases.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Right? You know, birthright citizenship as an example. And and there's many other examples of some of these executive orders that the president that it could easily be turned into law. And the other thing is it really irritated me to no one. And I know Trump, you know, he went he he pushed to get the continuing resolution so we wouldn't shut down the government.
Gen. Michael Flynn:You know, I I would have been just I would probably, if I was on his team, I would have argued just the opposite. I would have said, you know what? Let's shut the government down. Let's shut the federal government down. They can always just sign off on a continuing resolution, you know, in ninety days or whatever.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Let's see how much we can function because we can function. I've been through government shuts shutdowns for, you know, week a couple of weeks at a time. Believe me, it it's never what you think it is, Seth. And and people go, oh, you know, when I'm not getting paid, they always get paid back. So the continuing resolution gave Ukraine more money.
Gen. Michael Flynn:It gave all these other, you know, organizations and activities and functions that are going on globally and domestically. It continued to fund them even though, you know, Elon with Doge and Trump really with executive orders are saying we're gonna reduce the size of government, we're gonna cut waste, fraud and abuse, You know? So all these different things. So, you know, I I would have argued to against it to to have signed off on the continuing resolution because all it does is it continues the waste, fraud, and abuse. I mean, I I don't I don't see it any other way.
Gen. Michael Flynn:And I And I try to be, you know, I try to be, like, much far more strategic in how I view this, but we're in a really desperate situation in this country. The more Doge digs into things, and you see it you see it on on certainly on social media being reported. I mean, they're finding trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars going to nowhere. I mean, it's going to somebody, and that's my I posted the other day about, you know, okay. You know, Elon, great.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Good job. A plus. Move faster. But I want the thread pulled to where the money is going. And then once once we see where the money's going, if, you know, if I'm the US government and you're the recipient of of a of a buttload of money, I wanna know that Seth Whole House is getting, you know, you know, I don't know, a a $500,000,000 a year for whatever.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Why? And then what's Seth Whole House doing with it? And then I go to Seth Whole House, and now it's the now you get into what's called in the military, a commander's inquiry. Right? You the initial beginnings of an investigation.
Gen. Michael Flynn:That doesn't take months. It takes a couple of phone calls, and it takes me to go find you, sit you down, and go, okay. Why is that money coming to you? What are you doing with the money? And how long has it been going on?
Gen. Michael Flynn:And you you answer the questions. And if you go, well, I'm gonna take the yeah. I'm gonna I need a lawyer. Then you go, no. You don't.
Gen. Michael Flynn:In fact, you're not gonna get a lawyer because I'm here on the authority of the president of The United States for national security purposes. And you're not gonna get a lawyer actually because I because I need to know because we have you dead to rights for for basically theft. Okay? So you either tell me what you need to tell me or we're gonna take you and you're gonna find yourself in prison for the next twenty five to fifty years of your life, maybe forever. Right?
Gen. Michael Flynn:So I guarantee that part of the thread because you're gonna you're you'll buckle. Now, you know, not I'm not I'm using you metaphorically, but you'll buckle because I know people that I know people in the system that this needs to happen to they need to have the FBI, probably elements of the Secret Service, certainly the Marshall Service show up to their houses, unannounced, arrest them, take their take their computers. Right? You don't have to rifle through their underwear draws, but but get their data, get their phones, take them, you know, without without I mean, they don't need warrants. They need presidential authority.
Gen. Michael Flynn:K? Presidential authority. That's all they need. And I know a couple that if they went and did it, like, tonight, those people on the way to the to the courthouse or not the courthouse, on the way to the jailhouse, they would spill the beans before they got there. They'd probably spill the beans in within five minutes because they don't wanna go to jail, and they know that they have committed crimes.
Gen. Michael Flynn:They know that have they have conspired to undermine a a president of The United States, which is essentially conspiracy. And also, you you can tie it to treason. They have committed serious fraud, not just waste and and abuse. Waste and abuse is is, you abuse. Those aren't maybe abuse could be tied to a criminal act, but fraud is a is a is a crime.
Gen. Michael Flynn:So they know that they have committed fraud. Well, I mean, we're talking about so much fraud, not just waste and abuse. It's all waste. It's all abuse, but it's fraud. And that fraud is a crime.
Gen. Michael Flynn:And so we have got to stop with the, you know, we've found, you know, we're we're we're, you know, we're changing the sex of of rats in Colombia or some crap, you know, just nuts, nutty stuff, You know? And we start to what what happens, Seth, is it starts to become a joke. Right? People start to do memes of it on social media. You hear you hear late night comedians joking about it.
Gen. Michael Flynn:You hear people, you know, conversations that I'm in. I'm not joking about this. This is very serious time. We don't have that much time. And and we've seen, you know, and and we can maybe talk a little bit about this signal chat thing, which is which is definitely, you know, it's definitely not good.
Gen. Michael Flynn:You know, but we we have got to take this very, very seriously. The exposure noted, excellent, move faster, dig into more, dig into the intel community, dig into the Department of Defense, dig into the Department of Agriculture, Commerce, you know, interior, all of them across the board state for sure. Find out where all this money's been flowing because it's been you know, it's like, you know, I I did joke about the US Institute of Peace. It's it's actually the US Institute of Peace of the Action, and you're not getting any of it. Other people that come into them are.
Gen. Michael Flynn:When you look at the these some of these big name political people around the country, they don't have businesses that they set up. They actually set up nonprofits because money can flow easier grants, right? Half a billion dollars in grants, billion dollars in grants can flow into these nonprofits. And you go and you say, what are these nonprofits doing? And what are they doing with the money?
Gen. Michael Flynn:I never never heard anything about their money, you know, about what they're doing. I I when you start to look into them, you go, oh my god. This you know, I run I run a nonprofit. My nonprofit, you know, we barely make ends meet. Right?
Gen. Michael Flynn:I mean, I mean, seriously, we don't take a dime from the government. So all these other nonprofits that they have like, you know, dollars 300,000,000, 5 hundred million dollars and you're coming. Okay, so are they are they? And some of them are. They're taking their money and they're running it back into democratic campaigns.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Or they're going into lawfare to counter attack, you know, or to attack the current president of The United States or prior to him being the president to attack him with with all of the lawyers, all of the people around him. You know? You're truly included. So
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Gen. Michael Flynn:So I I I think that we are in a place now where it this stuff has gotta be, you know, the execution of the accountability has to be the next step. And and and part of the problem part of this problem, Seth, and for the for your audience and for anybody that sees this segment, the the depth chart in the Department of Justice is not very deep. Okay? So the America First appointees and the political appointees that Trump brought in are exceptional. I, you know, I think they're all fine, especially the the deputy attorney general and the principal attorney general, the the US attorney for the Washington DC circuit, a couple of people, you know, secretary or now Mac Warner who's in the civil rights division.
Gen. Michael Flynn:I mean, there's some really quality people at the top. Below them are still a bunch of prosecutors that were appointed in many cases under Eric Holder or Barack Obama. Right? And they're still there. They're still there.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Prosecutors. Right? Because there's hundreds and hundreds of people that work in these divisions and work in these US Attorney General's offices around the country. You know, mean, it's it's staggering the number of prosecutors that are that are left wing radicals, progressives, and they're and you you know, you gotta do is look at their social media sites, which many of them are scrubbing them. They're scrubbing them because they don't wanna be discovered, you know, now that they're and and they're kinda they're kinda hiding a little bit while to see, you know, what what's gonna happen.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Am I gonna get fired? Right? So I'll keep my nose clean. I'll here's my cases that I'm doing and and not make a big stink. Look.
Gen. Michael Flynn:If this were the if if Kamala had won, god help us, man. If Kamala had won, Donald j Trump would be in prison for the rest of his life, period. And that sentencing was the November 26. They would not have changed it like that radical judge did. He oh, and and then he then he basically kinda dropped the whole thing.
Gen. Michael Flynn:He actually pushed it until after Trump leaves office. That's how disgusting these people are. But Trump would be in prison for the rest of his life had he not won. And many, many other, you know, conservative fighters who stood up for him, fought for him over these last four years, and certainly, in my case, for the last over a decade, you know, or or certainly for a decade, you know, they would have come after us. They they were coming after me, know, prior.
Gen. Michael Flynn:And then the election happened and and they, you know, they've toned it down, you know, slightly. But do they these are people that haven't, you know, they haven't disappeared. They haven't gone away. They're still there. And we see
Seth Holehouse:it. So do you
Gen. Michael Flynn:in the law of Eric Max.
Seth Holehouse:Do you think that they're going through, say, building the cases right now and it's part of a longer term strategy and that they're kinda going through discovery? Because even if you look at, say, Bongino, like, you know, he wrote the book on spygate. So these criminal activities, illegal spying on citizens, like, all the things that happened, I you know, between him and Cash and, know, a lot of other people that have he's brought that Trump has brought in.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Cash broke government gangsters.
Seth Holehouse:Well, exactly. So I think that there's you know, you mentioned the perception of the the the people in the audience. I think there's a lot of people that are that, you know, hey. Great. Trump got in, but now they're seeing, you know, the CDC director is WHO ties, and she's very pro big pharma products.
Seth Holehouse:And they're seeing these things happening and how to make sense of it, and and there's been the delays on the Epstein. And my concern is that you have this massive populist movement that wanted to get the law and order president back in office to enact law and order. And if Right. We go down three or four months and we're still being dripped Epstein information and there's been no arrests, I the the the the core of the American public is gonna start with their pitchforks and rightfully so because we want justice. We we we know what happened.
Gen. Michael Flynn:I mean, the American people want justice. The American people want accountability. The American people wanna have visible accountability, meaning they wanna see very senior people that were involved in taking this government down. We we were able to fight through a Marxist coup d'etat of The United States Of America, a Marxist revolution. We were able to withstand the body blows because, you know, many of us, and you were included, stood on the ramparts, stood on the redoubts, and stood our But I will tell you, some people were like metaphorically, some people were shot at and they were shot down off the rampart because they they got attacked and they got persecuted and and they went to jail in some cases.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Right? I mean so there there was a there was a physical element to what we faced because physically, some people did in fact go to prison. Right?
Robert Kiyosaki:Like, Tina
Seth Holehouse:Peters is still sitting in prison.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Exactly. Tina Tina's Tina's one. Tina saw a crime being committed, and they put her in jail for it, she is still in prison. So she's a she's a great example of of people that were standing on the on the walls, like the Jericho Walls, the Walls Of Jericho. Right?
Gen. Michael Flynn:Standing there being besieged by this progressive Marxist revolution and this attempted takeover of our country. And we stood there and we stood there and realized that this was happening. Some of us knew it explicitly. Some of us only intuitively wrote, okay, there must just it just didn't feel right. But we stood our ground and we were able to overcome like Trump likes to say, we had an election that was too big to rig.
Gen. Michael Flynn:We really got smart. The American people used good God given common sense, got smart. And they did things like they showed up to early vote. They paid real close attention to the mail and stuff. Right?
Gen. Michael Flynn:You see the US Postal Service director, I guess resigned today. I'm gonna tell you that guy probably gonna need to go to jail. The the the person that just resigned because the I know for a fact the US Postal Service, at least out of the New York office, was directly involved in the twenty twenty fraudulent election. Okay? They put they put ballots on the on Gaylords or or or pallets, and then they put them on the trucks, and then they ship those trucks all over the country.
Gen. Michael Flynn:So we know that for a fact. That case is in in that is a whistleblower case that is pending. And I guarantee the US Post Master General resigned because he knows that that's coming. And that is coming. That's just a, that's a sidebar example of those of us who fought back and we have to continue to fight back.
Gen. Michael Flynn:But I want these people you know, I don't want them to be fired. I want if if they're in if they're in government service right now, the heads of those agencies, those departments, particularly the attorney general, has the full authority to arrest arrest, put them on home detention, take their passport. Right? Don't have to stop their pay. In fact, you'd pen pending that you're under investigation, and you'll maintain your pay pending the outcome of the investigation.
Gen. Michael Flynn:But you're not gonna be fired. I don't want you to walk away and get your pension. I don't want that. I want because you committed a crime. You lied to me, and now I'm talking about the assistant director in charge of the New York field office for the FBI.
Gen. Michael Flynn:That that that that person lied to the attorney general, and and that was clear. I mean, she said it. That's why she fired him. Should not have fired him. She should have arrested him.
Gen. Michael Flynn:And she had the full authority to arrest him and do all the things that I just laid out. So president of The United States is the only person in the United States government that takes an oath of office and uses the word preserve. The rest of us use the word protect and defend or defend and protect depending on on how it comes out, Defend and protect. But the president uses the word preserve. And because of that word, he has certain authorities only invested in the president of The United States, only invested in him, not the vice president.
Gen. Michael Flynn:And the president of The States has authorities under the National Security Act. And he did just sign off on something the other day where basically this Boesburg character judge, the president signed off and said, you know what, we're not gonna give you any more evidence for, you know, he basically declared a national security emergency because this Boesburg was nuts. And he's trying to be the, you know, he's trying to be the the the jury, the the judge, and the executioner. Right? In a in a judge, not a not an elected official.
Gen. Michael Flynn:So the president did the right thing the other day, very smart, and he used this tool that he has. He's gonna probably end up having to use that tool, I think, far more. And I think we're gonna go into a period of time where, you know, this is I mean, yesterday was essentially two months, right? Because the inauguration was on a Monday. So yesterday was two months, not necessarily to the day, but two months in time where administration's been you know, and they've been doing a lot.
Gen. Michael Flynn:The president's done a lot and everybody that's, you know, pro Trump. There's nobody more pro Trump than I am. If I was not pro Trump now, I'm also I'm also one of these guys that I'm gonna be very blunt because I want shit to get done. I want things to be done and I wanna help him and his team to get stuff done. But I'm gonna use my platform to make sure that people understand how to get things done.
Gen. Michael Flynn:You know, I didn't, you know, I'm not a, you know, I didn't retire as a, as a private from the army or as a junior level intel analyst from the intel community. I ran one of the largest intel agencies in the world, got to the level of National Security Advisor, was brutally attacked. And for reasons that are now very clear, right? And so, how am I operating? How am I functioning?
Gen. Michael Flynn:I'm doing exactly what I need to do right now. It's just talking to a guy like you to say that your audience and many, many other audiences out there who will listen, that there are authorities within the within these leaders that we have in our government right now for them to take extraordinary action during a time of national emergency. I believe our nation is at war. We are in a spiritual war. We are in a fifth generation war for for certain.
Gen. Michael Flynn:I I wrote a book on that and know exactly what I'm talking about. We are up against a massive, massive domestic set of problems, education system, healthcare system, crime on our streets, drug massive drug problems with fentanyl. The the, you know, the the illegal immigration that not just went on for the last four years, but went on for the last forty years. I mean, Obama, you know, he did some damage to this country as well. Trump was able to slow that down, but a lot of people came in under the eight years of Obama.
Gen. Michael Flynn:And then we know it's somewhere between, you know, ten and fifteen million. We don't even have the we don't even know the numbers because their the record keeping was horrendous by the Biden administration, but it it could be as high as 20,000,000 people that came in here illegally. You know, sending a couple of hundred people to a prison in in El Salvador is good. It it it makes for good press. I appreciate president Bukele of El Salvador and his absolute support to this country.
Gen. Michael Flynn:You know, speaking as an American citizen who cares about the kinds of relationships that we need overseas with good, strong leaders. He's one of them. But that number was only like 200. Let's just say it was 400. Let's say it was 1,000.
Gen. Michael Flynn:And that's just that one group of Venezuelans. We know that the the number of Venezuelans in in this country that came in here that are trained operatives trained. I'm not just talking about some guy that, you know, left his family and and move and and marched north to come across the border looking for a better life. I'm talking about trained operatives from this, you know, TDA organization, Trenda Aragua. These guys, you know, it's it's at least 5,000, it might be more, that are trained.
Gen. Michael Flynn:So if we send a couple of hundred on planes down to El Salvador, you know, there's another couple of thousand just of those guys. Never mind what I learned about a week ago is we have the potentially 24,000 Afghan Taliban and ISIS that were given passes basically because of our stupid relationship under the Biden administration, on the stupid Biden administration, you know, where we were giving them like $40,000,000 a week to Afghanistan, right, to the Taliban. Right? So I I was given a a thing we've and we've, you know, reported this in. Up to 24,000 members of Taliban slash ISIS that were given basically an access pass into The United States Of America.
Gen. Michael Flynn:They're not here to make America great again. They're not here to make America great again. They're here to do damage. They're here to do harm. And and so how is that going to transpire?
Gen. Michael Flynn:How will it play out? I don't know. I can analyze a bunch of options and a bunch of situations, and I do believe that some of this is being done. When I look at our military and I know what Pete Hagsteth, what he has his arms around and it's a big bear. It's an elephant, or if there's a bigger than an elephant, maybe an old dinosaur that's dead now.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Because parts of the Department of Defense is dead and some of it needs to be changed. But we have, I mean, we have admirals and generals who are undermining or moving too slow. Who for the last four years, force fed DEI and COVID, the COVID vaccine to over 80,000 of our members of the military who were forced out, okay, across the board. Good, strong, solid people. Again, who stood on the walls of Jericho and metaphorically were told you're out.
Gen. Michael Flynn:And many of them got out, you know, under a cloud, right? So they couldn't go get jobs, their families were ruined. They had to go back to their communities in shame. I mean, over 80,000 in our military. So Pete has a big issue there to deal with.
Gen. Michael Flynn:And those are generals and admirals who know it. And the generals and admirals are gonna say sit there and they're gonna say, well, you know, the policy was this. I I we follow what our civilian leaders tell us to do. Okay. Alright.
Gen. Michael Flynn:I got that. Was it legal, moral and ethical? Does it meet those standards? Does it meet that criteria? You know, legal?
Gen. Michael Flynn:Maybe. I don't know. That have to that's you know, have to be judged by the legal guys. Moral and ethical? Absolutely not.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Absolutely not. And so these admirals and generals who are keeping their mouth shut and they're changing office names and they're changing and they're getting rid of briefings that they gave on DEI and social reengineering of our force and whether or not we can include transgender soldiers in the foxholes with the Marine Corps and in infantry units. We can't have this. We cannot have this. So there's accountability that needs to be had.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Excuse me, Seth. There's accountability that needs to be had that is going to cause people to go to prison and should. And then there's accountability that needs to be had that should cause people to be relieved of their duties and responsibilities and told, thank you for your service, go home. And I'm telling you, I'm letting people know that. I am letting people know that.
Gen. Michael Flynn:And at a certain point in time, you know, we're two months, like I said, I started this diatribe off, We're two months into this. You know, if you and I, and you and I have had conversations over time about different things. You know, if you and I are having the same kind of conversation in another two months, Seth, we're not in a good place. We are not. We're not in a good place.
Gen. Michael Flynn:I mean, if if the American people don't feel like they're like there's action, and I'm not talking about, you know, more executive orders. They're they're they're great. You know? But I mean real action against the people that tried to destroy this nation. And and I I'm saying that very precisely.
Gen. Michael Flynn:They wanted to destroy The United States Of America. They wanted the constitution to be basically, you know, destroyed, changed, whatever, eliminated. They want The United States Of America to become a Marxist state, And and they will lie, cheat, steal, deceive all the way to achieving that. Okay? And I, you know, haven't used the word democrat once yet on their show, so I just did.
Gen. Michael Flynn:They are not. They are not. Okay? They are progressive Marxists. This is a Marxist movement in our country.
Gen. Michael Flynn:It is a large movement. It is well funded. It includes Chinese, you know, the CCP support. It has an element of very radicalized Islamism inside of it. And that's just here in this country.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Never mind what's happening in Europe. Never mind the problems that are happening in The Middle East. And, and, you know, so, so these are big issues. These are big problems. We cannot move forward.
Gen. Michael Flynn:The nation cannot move forward. I don't care how good our, our, you know, how much Trump, you know, adjusts the economy and he will, but we cannot move forward unless people are held accountable. And I mean, very, very senior people, and they all know who I'm talking about. You know who I'm talking about, I've said many times, you know, it's the, you know, start with Obama and work your way down. Right?
Gen. Michael Flynn:I mean, and, you know, maybe you don't throw a former president into prison, but maybe you do. Maybe it you know, maybe somebody says, you know, he where did it where who directed you, John Brennan? Who directed you, Jim Clapper? Who directed you, Susan Rice? Under oath, under the lights, you know, and and with with the threat of of of prison.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Okay? And so who directed you? Well, you know, if they if they if they say nothing, okay, then that's fine. Then you're gonna go to prison. You know, you're going to prison.
Gen. Michael Flynn:You're going to prison for for treason. Okay? Treason. That's a very strong word. It's a very strong word.
Gen. Michael Flynn:And like all these pardons, right? These pardons, people can people the only thing that can't overcome a pardon is treason, is the commitment of treason. And I get called a tree, a traitor all the time. And I, you know, I, and I say, wait a second. And, you know, so if I'm a traitor, why am I walking the streets?
Gen. Michael Flynn:Right? If I, I committed treason, why am I walking the streets? I was never charged with that. They dismissed my case because they lied. And so, you think Mueller and Weisman, Andrew Weisman, who was the deputy to Mueller would have let me go that I was a traitor or that I committed treason.
Gen. Michael Flynn:The treason was committed against me, not just Mike Flynn and army general, but the national security advisor by a duly elected president of The United States. That the income or the outgoing administration under under Barack H. Obama committed treason. They committed a conspiracy to undermine a duly elected president and it hasn't stopped. It hasn't stopped.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Yeah. So that's some very strong words and language that I just used, but I don't know what else to say. I don't know where else we are except there. And so now we now we stood the ramparts, we stood at the walls. You know, we're looking for accountability.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Elon Musk move faster, pull the thread all the way to the end. Show us the show us who's who's the initial recipient of these funds. And let's start there and let's start asking questions. Those people can be brought in under national security reasons and with without lawyers. K.
Gen. Michael Flynn:That's a that's a strong statement because because we are at risk. The as I said earlier, the president is the only one that has that word preserve. Preserve the constitution of The United States Of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Right? Preserve, not just protect and defend, but preserve.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Our our constitution is absolutely at risk. And the president understands this. But keep in mind, like I've said to many people, and I'll shut up here, Seth. The president is one man, and he can only do so much. You know?
Gen. Michael Flynn:And he and I know he does. The guy works like a fiend. You know, he's he he, you know, rarely sleeps. He's up going all the time. He's out fighting a good good fight.
Gen. Michael Flynn:He's doing what he can do. Once he signs off on an executive order, it's up to people to start to execute. So people in government, some of whom are gonna push back, they're not gonna execute. And we, the people, what we need to do is we need to put pressure on our elected representatives and we need to be threatening these elected representatives that look, we're not gonna be giving you any more money. We're not gonna be supporting you in the next round of elections here.
Gen. Michael Flynn:We're gonna go find other people. We're tired. The American people are tired of being robbed. They're tired of being ripped off. Enough is enough.
Seth Holehouse:I agree. I mean, I I I'd love to see some of these cold beds in Guantanamo Bay, warming up with some warm bodies because we need to have this. And so, and and and parting thoughts, I know we've already, you know, gone past your time, which I appreciate. What's what's your last bit of advice for people watching and they're anxious? You know, the average person, people are watching this show.
Seth Holehouse:What's your advice to them?
Gen. Michael Flynn:Yeah. My my advice is always what it's been. It's, know, I use the phrase local action equals a national impact. And I always will go back to that, you know, and a piece of leadership advice that I learned and I use it is control what you can control and take control of it. Right?
Gen. Michael Flynn:If things that you can't control, you know, you can gripe about them all day long. But if you can't control them, like what the president's gonna do or what the attorney general of The United States is gonna do, complain about it. And and there is pressure there is pressure that can be put on in the world of social media and the world of influence operations, and that's fine. But at your local level, you know, if you can get involved in your in your churches, in your communities, put pressure down in areas of your life that you can control and take control of that. We only have so much more time left in this country.
Gen. Michael Flynn:I believe that. And, and Donald Trump, Donald J. Trump is a historical figure in US and clearly world history. Guys like him, they come around, you know, about every maybe every millennium. I don't know.
Gen. Michael Flynn:You know, maybe certainly every 200 years. I mean, the only other figures that I know in our US history that are on, you know, on scale with him are are, you know, is our founding father, George Washington, our first president, and our sixteenth president, you know, Abraham Lincoln. And, you know, I mean, all the others in between, you know, they they were, you know, noble and valiant and did, you know, interesting things at their, you know, during their presidencies. But this is an existential threat to our country, just like the civil war was and just like the the the revolutionary war was. We didn't have a country, so we were creating one.
Gen. Michael Flynn:And so, you know, it was existential to whether or not we were even gonna have freedom like we have. Lincoln understood it. Washington clearly understood. Lincoln understood it, and Trump understands it. But just like, you know, Lincoln found his grant.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Right? Washington had his his internal spy network, and he had his he had his Nathan Hales and he had his, the great leaders at the time that were founders that fought for this country, right? They gave up their treasure, they gave up everything. I mean, we have to be able to, those of us like me, you know, and others, you know, we're giving we got to give up our time. We got to give up some resources.
Gen. Michael Flynn:We've got to give up time to pray. Right. I mean, all the things that we can control, take control. So local action, get involved. You know, it will be it will have a national impact, you know, and we've we don't have that much time.
Gen. Michael Flynn:My my guess is we probably have a year. We actually have less than a year before the entire country because the political wins and the political establishment will shift to the next election. And that election may not matter. It may not matter. I mean, we the American people just spoke and said, we're gonna give you the White House.
Gen. Michael Flynn:We're gonna give you the House of Representatives, and we're gonna give you the Senate. We're gonna give you the majority of states legislatures. We're gonna give you the majority of of conservative or Republican governors in this country. That's what exists right now. And we're we're not taking advantage of it because there's because typically, you know, the establishment thinks that they know better and they just like to muddle along because they're the ones benefiting from these trillions of dollars that were being ripped off from our from our coffers, From US taxpayer coffers.
Gen. Michael Flynn:So I wanna see I wanna see accountability. That's what I wanna see.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. You and I both. Well, General Flynn, thank you so much for your time today. How can people follow you, support you? What what kind of direction would you give people?
Gen. Michael Flynn:Yeah, great. Thank you. People can go to generalflinn.com, right? Generalflinn.com, that's one website. If they haven't seen my movie, please go to flinnmovie.com.
Gen. Michael Flynn:It's a great movie. It's a wonderful movie. We just won a couple of great awards. Yep, you can stream it on Amazon. It's probably the easiest and cheapest.
Gen. Michael Flynn:Got some great books in there. I publish a weekly newsletter. I have a sub stack. I mean, know, got a lot of things going on because I'm an information fiend. I'm an you know, my training is in the world of information and intelligence.
Gen. Michael Flynn:And so I've, you know, got a bunch of books. We always run deals. You know, you buy a couple, you get something for free, you know, all that kind of stuff. So go to generalFlynn.com, learn more about me, and, and help me out because that's how I'm out here fighting. Right?
Seth Holehouse:Well, thank you for that, and thank you for the fight that you're you're putting forward. So, again, thanks again for the time that you've you've given us today. Hopefully, this is helpful. I know that, you know, we're all kinda grasping at straws. What can we do?
Seth Holehouse:But it's it's good to have your voice as part of this this effort, and so I thank you for your time today. It's great great speaking to
Gen. Michael Flynn:you as always. Bless. Talk to you later, Seth.
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