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Hello.
Welcome to the roundtable,
our weekly roundtable.
Cat's on a train.
Yes, I am.
Is it to celebrate your birthday?
No, it's a work trip.
Okay.
I'm traveling to an
undisclosed location for an
all-day meeting tomorrow.
Uh-huh.
I have a couple of guesses,
but I'll keep it off air.
Okay.
Yes, please do that.
Yes, I will.
You know,
my mom sent me a text today and she said,
she said, you're not 50 anymore.
I thought that was a good
way of looking at it.
I thought, yeah, you're right.
I'm not 50 anymore.
You're right.
Yeah.
You elevated.
Right.
That's 26.
Yeah.
Right.
I wish.
Yeah.
I don't.
Anyone.
Anyone.
Nick,
I am in my work desk in my main floor
of my house.
I just didn't want to do the steps today.
So it makes it a lot easier.
It doesn't wear me out as much.
So this way I can do a show
where otherwise I probably
would have canceled.
So you get me for a week.
Nice.
Sorry, guys.
I didn't have time to go
into hair and makeup before
our podcast today, but...
because I've been I got up
at 3 30 and coached and
worked out and working and
all the things all the
things so you've been lazy
all day well I I'm already
at 10 000 steps and it is
12 30. so cool doing pretty
good nap in your future you
know that may or may not can you um
Good, OK, that may or may not happen.
My nap because I have to
come back for an event
tonight at the school so.
We'll see, but I am.
I am going to leave here and
go get a pedicure.
OK,
I have an important event this weekend
that need to be prepped.
And a gorgeous dress I did.
Cat has seen my dress is.
So I have to go to a charity
event with the hubby.
He's requiring eye candy,
so I have to get ready.
Speaking of toes, Scott,
can you pull up the picture
of my son's fractured toes?
Is it somewhere public?
On our tech street.
I sent it to you.
Yeah, I don't.
I can't hold it up from my phone.
No worries.
I could if I know how to do it.
We'll send it later.
Anyway.
Tell us what happened.
The big B, the power lifter guy, my son,
who's in Williamsburg now
at the College of William & Mary,
dropped a metal plate on
his foot at the gym.
And a compound fracture of the big toe,
fracture of the second toe, stitches,
and a boot for the next
four to six weeks.
And he was getting ready for the Arnold,
not as a competitor, just as a spectator,
because he wanted to look his best.
So now he sent me a text yesterday.
He said,
hobbling around with mama at the Arnold.
That's right.
That's what we'll be doing.
Poor kid.
So, yeah, but it was this first big boy,
like go to urgent care, you know,
figure it out for yourself
kind of a thing where you had to get,
you know, supplies and.
I don't know how you spell toe,
but that ain't it.
Not that kind of toe.
I'm trying to hurry.
Are you going to toe the toe?
I'm just curious.
But we need an update on you, Scott,
after you get this.
So we'll ask Charlie.
Charlie.
What?
You worked out today.
I did.
It was not pleasant.
How'd those 50 clean drinks feel for you?
Terrible.
I feel like I've never
worked out in my life.
Hey, thanks for the tip.
I did stick with 85,
and I felt really good.
Good.
But 85 was what I could do.
It was five clean jerks every minute.
Oh, wow.
But we've been doing it for, like,
four weeks.
So, like,
it's not like I just started out
this time, but it's still.
It hasn't gotten any better
in the other four weeks.
You haven't gotten any better?
No.
I am.
I'm dropping into a box
tonight before dinner.
So I will let you know how it goes.
It's my first CrossFit
workout in a very long time.
Good.
Right in time for the Open.
I'm training.
It's day one.
All right, Scott.
How are you feeling today?
So I feel better every day.
Yeah.
It's not anywhere near where I want to be.
You look better.
Yeah, you do.
Mostly because you shaved.
And my voice is better.
But, yeah, it's still, like,
I'm really winded, especially on stairs,
getting around the house.
Yesterday,
I drove myself to Delaware to
have my EKG done.
I probably should have had
Julie do it after I kind of
got in the middle of it and
was kind of stuck.
So...
But there it is.
Just waiting on next steps,
waiting for the call from
the doctor to set up an
appointment to shock my
heart back into rhythm.
I've had a lot of people
reach out to me who've had
the procedure done,
said it's really quick and easy,
and they feel like 100
times better right after it's done.
So the other complications
around everything are
starting to come into...
into form.
My sugar is down consistently,
not completely where we need it to be,
but way less than 380.
My heart rate,
I started wearing the watch
again so I could track that.
It's all over the map.
And that's really the AFib.
And it's funny,
sometimes I'll look at my
heart rate and while I'm looking at it,
it bounces 20 beats per minute
Wow.
Like all like in 15 seconds,
it'll have 10 different readings.
Yeah.
Uh, so it's pretty crazy, but, um,
other than that, I'm getting better.
I'm eating better.
Um, yeah, let's hear that.
How's nutrition today?
Nutrition today is good.
Um, got up, had some eggs, uh,
some Turkey sausage and
some Dave's killer bread.
Uh, cause I'm,
I'm struggling getting fiber in.
Um, and I,
the Dave's killer bread really
ramps up the fiber and it
gives you a little bit of protein.
Those are two things I'm falling short of.
Um, but yeah, I have a recommendation for,
for fiber.
It's a cereal.
It has like 44 grams of
fiber in like a half a cup of cereal.
Not a lot of calories.
Delicious in some skim milk
or almond milk.
It was recommended by a guy
that did Mike's colonoscopy.
And he said that's the best way to do it.
He said fiber supplements, no bueno.
This is like the best bang for your buck.
So if you can tolerate it.
Don't go crazy and like eat
four cups in one day
because you'll be sorry.
But...
Cheryl's the one that's
talking me into getting more fiber in.
We're doing a show today at four,
but I'll try that.
I'll try anything right now.
And she does not want me supplementing.
Yeah.
It's funny you brought up colonoscopy.
I just got a message today.
I've got to schedule mine.
time you know what I've
heard it's the best sleep
of your life so I'm
actually I'm all in for
that it's true fine that
has to be put a camera up
there as long as I can
sleep good as long as you
don't wake up in the middle
of it I won't uh so
christopher alford says how
does the killer bread taste
I actually like it better
than regular bread
It has nuts and seeds in it.
I think it has way more flavor.
It is more dense than a regular bread.
So it's hard to make like a
sandwich out of it.
But just for like a piece of toast,
it's fine.
Chris, Christopher,
are you talking about after
the colonoscopy?
After I have the best sleep ever,
I'm going to have so much gas afterwards.
Oh, my God.
Great.
Scott, after you get...
back, your heart shocked,
can you then do you think start exercise?
So I don't know.
I've got to talk to doctors
and kind of see where that's at.
I've talked to some people
who have gone back to full
CrossFit workouts.
I've talked to others that say CrossFit,
the way it affects your heart,
it's not good for someone
with AFib or who has ever had AFib.
And they've modified it to
something a little bit different.
Yeah.
But again,
I'll have discussions with
people that I trust.
I'm in communication with
Pat and Christy about all
this and everything that's
going on back and forth.
So my hope is to get back to
full CrossFit.
Sure.
Well, yeah,
just I'm just thinking any kind
of movement with general
health and your body
healing and that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
Good thing is we're getting
close to spring and I've
got a garage gym so I can
move and you have all the tools.
Yeah.
Yep.
So what's happening in the CrossFit world?
There's so much.
I don't even know if we'll
get through it all because
I didn't get your take.
First of all, let's start with Mal.
Mal announcing she's not competing.
Okay.
she's not doing the open your thoughts.
Not surprised.
I think that that was to be expected.
Um,
I think she is enjoying her life and
that she hasn't really had
any balance yet.
And I think she's somebody
that I think she's active.
Um, and I think she's just honestly,
I mean, I know,
I don't want to say being a
kid cause she's, I mean, an adult now,
but kind of being a kid again,
like she's just,
taken some pressure off of herself.
And so I think it's great.
And if she wants to come back or even,
you know, come back,
but not be an elite athlete, you know,
just, I think it's fine.
Not surprised.
Yeah.
I don't care if she ever comes back.
I don't think that's important.
I'd be surprised if she doesn't.
I'd be surprised if she doesn't.
She's so talented.
I agree.
I agree.
Yeah,
she's definitely got the talent and I
think she's,
she had that competitive vibe,
but I think that, yeah,
she was training at such a high level for,
you know,
starting so young that I think it's, yeah,
she's looks like she's really, you know,
she's got the boyfriend, she's in Hawaii,
like living it, living her best life.
Uh, Nick, yes,
I am wearing the watch at
sleep as while I'm sleeping
to track that.
Just so you know.
Did you see they've
announced the two locations
for 24-1 and 24-2?
24-1 is at CrossFit
Pleasanton in California,
and CrossFit in Open
Announcement 2 is going to
be at the Shred Shed at
Justin Medaris' estate.
But in that announcement,
when Medaris talked about it,
he leaked part of the workout.
How does he even know?
you know,
supposedly the athletes do not
know what the workouts are,
but he makes a statement
where they couldn't do one
of the workouts at the
shred shed because they
didn't have enough room for lunges.
So it could be one of those workouts.
So someone is telling
Madaris that there are
lunges in a workout.
Yeah.
So this whole facade that
the athletes don't know
what they're getting into?
I need clarification.
Let's get Boz on here.
So my question to you is,
as the CrossFit HQ team,
do you scramble and change the workout?
It sounds like they already
knew that people knew the movement.
So you're saying scrambled
for our benefit?
To hide the fact that they
leaked some of the
movements to the athletes.
I mean,
I think it's annoying that they leaked,
but at the end of the day,
they still have to perform it.
It's the open.
Yeah, it's the open.
I mean,
you can do it multiple times anyway.
And they're not going to not make it.
Right.
Because the theater did not know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know what it is.
That doesn't mean I'm going
to do any better.
Right.
Yeah, it's definitely shuttle runs.
There are definitely shuttle
runs up in here.
We've heard of athletes say
that they believe that
sometimes athletes get an
advantage and not just at the open level.
So I just find it fascinating.
I think it's something to watch.
Let's see what comes out.
What advantage do you get by knowing?
That you practice it?
Unless it's a movement that
you've never done or
they've never done before,
I don't see how you get a... I mean,
if they're like,
we're going to do 50-foot lunges, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean,
just knowing what some of the
components are maybe isn't
that much of an advantage.
I mean,
we pretty much know what all the
workouts are going to entail anyway,
to a certain extent.
If they're talking about burpees.
Okay.
Now you practice a little bit.
I mean,
do we think they leave the entire workout,
the details, or just, hey,
you need space to lunge?
I don't think it matters in the open.
I don't think it matters in the open.
I think, though, it does lead...
lend credence to people like
in the 22 games,
people knew about the
crossovers before the games
and others didn't.
So some were prepared with
the right rope and some were not.
Yeah,
it definitely is a slippery slope and
it leads people to think what, you know,
if that's happening,
what else is happening?
I agree with you there.
Right.
So I just,
I'm anxious to see what the
reaction of reaction to this is.
So CrossFit has not come out
and said anything after that?
No.
Not that I've seen.
But speaking of open announcements,
Dave Castro in his week in
review made two statements
that I found very fascinating.
One is he will be doing the
very first announcement himself.
People have been asking for
him to come back and do that.
And he is getting two people
to do the other two that
are not really directly
affiliated with the CrossFit space,
but are indirectly into CrossFit.
Like Jocko?
Who?
Yeah,
I'm thinking that or like a celebrity
that does it.
Hunter Sharon.
Kevin Hart.
I don't know.
He did not say.
He said they would be announced soon.
But I think that's going to
be interesting because
everybody's been clamoring for Dave.
But I think it'd be
interesting someone outside the space.
What do they bring to the table?
Tom Brady.
Chris Pratt.
I asked Dave who was doing his...
his reals for him and he
said some local kid that he
was paying some local kid
to do it and you're like
where's my money and I
wanted to be like okay did
my invoice not get to you I
didn't I asked him I sent
him a note one time and
just said hey instead of
paying me could you give me
like a scholarship to an l1
because I'd like to take it
again and they got no
response so is that the tb
is mom brady yes
No way he believes in CrossFit.
Well, no.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
So the other thing he said
is that he was asked about,
does he miss doing all the
programming for the games?
And he said that last year when he came in,
it was last minute and he
was more in an advisor role,
giving his input,
giving his stuff this year.
He's played the same role
for the open through semis,
but he got sucked in to the
games programming and he's
actually taking part in the
creative aspect of games programming.
What do you think that means
for the programming?
at the games?
I don't know.
So he's, is he, hmm.
So Boz and Dave essentially
doing it together or Dave's
just advising?
So he said advising up through semis.
Okay.
But he's actually putting
together the schedule for
the games himself in like the next week.
Okay.
So I don't know if that
means doing it with Boz or.
Right.
Or maybe Boz is advising him.
Maybe Dave's drafting some
workouts and then Boz is
going to fine tune them.
Yeah.
He,
he said he got sucked into the creative
process of like coming up
with the workouts.
Yeah.
So I think it's been shown
that Boz and Dave program differently.
Yeah.
And so I think,
I think it'd be cool if
they both were part of the
creative process and both
did a little bit of it.
So you get a little flavor of each.
And then I think it's even more well,
well-rounded than the past.
Um,
So I don't know.
Yeah,
I think it could be a nice benefit to
really see them kind of... Oh,
Kat lost connection.
To see them both... I think they're both,
yeah,
creative in their own... But they
both have their own kind of
processes on how to do it.
And that could be another
cool collaboration.
And maybe it is Boz advising it this time.
Versus the other way around.
Yeah.
One thing that I've always
appreciated with Dave is the show, right?
You get,
it's clear to see who's winning
because of the way he designs a workout.
And I don't think anybody
has done it as well as him since, um,
from being at a lot of events.
Um,
and I know that it goes into my finish
line rant that I always have,
but dramatic with all that, what, what I,
um,
What I find fascinating,
and I think I lost my train
of thought here,
is that in the behind the
scenes that came out this year,
and it's now coming out for free.
I think they're on episode three now.
It's out for free.
So go check that out.
But at one point,
Brian Friend calls Dave out
on the sidelines at the games that
somebody was allowed to do
something that and it was
Justin Madaris did not
advance his sandbag or
whatever to the place that needed to be.
And it gave him an advantage
because everybody else had
to carry that sandbag, like 15 feet,
and he did not.
And
Those are things that if
Dave knew they were going on,
because he lost it.
When he found out it was 15 feet,
he's like, yeah,
that's a distinct advantage.
And that can't happen.
And it's a really cool interaction.
And those are the things you
get in behind the scenes that...
that seven can only get
because of his relationship with Dave.
Sure.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Um,
some of the stuff I think any anybody
can get, but those little moments, um,
were really good.
And, um,
and I think that's what Dave will
bring in the creativity is like,
there will be a penalty for
someone who doesn't execute
it the way it should be.
Yeah.
So the other thing I didn't
get your opinion on that I
would love is Masters and
Teens going on the same
weekend and Wheel WOD and
Waterpalooza California
going on the same weekend.
Are we killing the age
groups and adaptives
before we even let them get started.
I think you are the adaptives,
not the age groups.
If people know both are on a weekend,
you can kind of watch both.
Unless you're talking about
going to the events then.
Well,
you won't be able to go to the events,
but will they be live streaming?
none of that's known at this point.
Right.
And I think that's, I mean, I don't,
I don't know.
I think we,
I think we have to wait and see.
I don't think we can answer
that question until we see it put in.
How many masters athletes do
you know that are coaches
of a teen athlete?
So I think that's,
that's a big thing that got
missed because,
Because how many mothers and
kids or fathers and kids
are in the masters and teens?
Because you know, Amy,
your whole family goes to CrossFit.
You know what I mean?
And the adult's going to give in.
They're going to go to the teens.
I know there aren't that many, Andrew,
but it
So example, Rudy Berger,
two-time CrossFit Games champion.
His daughter is really, really fit.
Yeah.
And I think she just aged in.
She just aged in to the teen division.
If she makes the teen games, I know Rudy.
He's not going to go for himself.
He's going to go for her.
Yeah.
And when you lose a two-time champ,
then that sucks.
It sucks for the growth of your sport.
Yeah, and it's not in close proximity,
the location.
No.
Yeah.
Carolyn was on with us Thursday night.
Why aren't they just together?
Why aren't those two,
the whole age group thing in one venue?
You're only adding four age
groups from the teens to the master's.
And then you're saving on
one venue instead of two,
one set of judges,
one set of event coordinators.
Well, again,
I say we got to see how it plays out.
So, yeah.
So there's that.
Have you guys been watching
any of the Hill or Athena thing?
I have.
I have been watching some of that,
although one of the
episodes was two hours long.
That is just way too long to be consuming.
I told Athena I listened to
her no slower than 1.5 speed.
But you were you were on there.
They were talking about you.
It was very nice of them, what they said.
And they said he was going
to call you on there or something.
But I...
My question to you is not about me.
It's about some of the
interactions between them.
I find it fascinating.
I love, so they did a video,
a Hiller video together.
I don't know if you've seen it yet.
It's about Sporty Beth.
It's on my list to watch today.
So it is really, really good.
And what I loved about it is
that Hiller makes his
claims and Athena questions
why he's making the claim.
Mm-hmm.
like right there in the moment.
And then they talk it
through and it gives it like a,
a completely different perspective.
Then what I love overall
about it is you have Athena,
a larger bodied athlete,
you have sporty Beth,
a larger bodied athlete,
two completely different
perspectives on how things should be.
Yeah.
And to see that contrast was really,
really good.
think that hillar and athena
have magic going on right
now I i agree um I'm loving
how they're talking things
out meaning like she gets a
text and and reads it one
way right and then she
talks to him about it he's
like that's not at all what
I meant by that and so like
just seeing that kind of
displayed I think it's
helpful for a lot of people
too because I think it also is you
you know,
maybe kind of reviewing some of
her self-talk,
which is important that she's expressing,
you know, like if she's thinking, oh,
he called me a foodie.
He thinks I'm fat or,
you know what I mean?
Versus no, he's just saying, you know,
a lot about food, like in gourmet stuff.
They,
they did a whole piece on yesterday's
show about miscommunication
and that they had to go to
the whiteboard because she
actually spent the weekend with them.
Yeah.
And they went to the
whiteboard to kind of map
out the communication and
And Hiller was all about
what he was trying to get
into her head was you have
a goal and that goal is weight loss.
So your goal is not CrossFit.
Are you,
I'm going to write to something to
cat on here, but go ahead.
Okay.
So, um, they,
they mapped it all out and here, what it,
I lost track on that, but he wanted,
he said, your goal is not CrossFit.
Your goal is weight loss.
So like you shouldn't have,
basically you shouldn't
have CrossFit goals like a
deadlift total or a pull-up
or a box jump.
It's not your goal.
Your goal is to lose weight.
And the other stuff is fluff.
And you don't want to get
like wrapped up in that.
And
Athena said,
I want to work on my strength.
So I want to try for the box jump.
I want to try for.
And their miscommunication was that.
Athena was saying she needed
emotional and mental
strength of overcoming these obstacles.
And Hiller thought she meant
strength is in muscle.
Yeah.
And it really threw them off.
their course and they had to
map all this out,
which I found extremely
fascinating from a
perspective where I've been.
No,
most people don't know how to
effectively communicate.
That includes with their partner,
with a coworker, just family members.
And so I think it takes
practice learning how to
communicate effectively to number one,
do it in a respectful way
when you misunderstand or
don't understand and to
keep your intentions like
assuming positive intent.
you know, in a situation like this, like,
you know, but I wrote on here too,
because Kat was talking
about conversations.
And in my hallway,
in my building right now is
a quote that says, in times of conflict,
increase communication.
And I think that's just important.
The more, if you're not understanding,
that means you need to keep
talking and keep
communicating until you can
figure it out.
Yes, Kenneth.
The other thing that I found
interesting in the episode yesterday was,
and it came from the Sporty Beth thing,
that she could do pull-ups
and that she wanted to,
she's scaling that because
of her pregnancy,
some different things like that.
And Athena has like a really
big issue with that.
Because there's an
assumption that everybody
can do pull-ups.
And she's like,
for the person that's
coming down from like 500 pounds,
you never learn the mechanics, right?
Because you were never in
the right body type to get it.
So your struggle to learn a
pull-up is much harder than
someone that was skinny,
learn the pull-up and then
got heavy because they
they learn the mechanics at
one point in time.
So those are ingrained into your body.
And so there was a talk
about like learning things
as you're going up in
weight and learning things
as you're coming down in
weight and how the,
how much the difference is.
Um,
and that that's not always understood
by CrossFit coaches in her opinion.
Hmm.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
I'm considering that processing it.
Yeah.
I mean,
I'm all about foundations and building.
So that's why that's,
I'm trying to process
looking at it from both perspectives.
Yeah.
I can say like, when I learned to pull up,
like...
Yes, I needed to start way earlier,
because clearly.
You're so close.
Those last videos.
It's my hip drive, guys.
Like, you're close to a strict.
I know.
That's what I've been focusing on,
is doing the strict.
Like,
I haven't even really been attempting
the other stuff.
But it's just gotten better
because of my strength.
So when I,
when I went from 500 to 260 and
I learned to pull up like,
like it was a lot of bands
and a lot of like trying to
get rid of bands.
Yeah.
But even when I got it,
it was the most important
factor was still losing more weight.
Like it was always, it was always lighter.
You get the easier they'll get.
Right.
And it wasn't necessarily
about mechanics because
hanging two 60 from meat
hooks is still not easy on
the shoulders to work a lot on mechanics.
Yeah.
But I think both need to happen.
Well, I don't disagree.
I'm just,
it has its own difficulties is
all she was pointing out.
So we're, we're yeah.
but I'm going to go watch that one.
It's on my list today after my pedicure,
maybe before my nap,
before I come back to work.
It's an hour 30.
It's an hour 30.
So definitely 1.5.
I'll put it on.
Yeah.
The last thing we want to talk about is,
I don't know if you guys saw this.
I have it pulled up.
So I'm going to share my
screen real quick.
So this is Myra Brandt.
She made this post just a
few days ago talking about
how due to health concerns,
she was not going to be
able to compete in the 2024 season.
She's a training think tank athlete.
She competed at the games
three times in 2017, 18 and 22.
She made this post and just
a day or two later passed
away from the complication.
And with everything that
I've gone through in the
last week and a half,
like life's short and
squeeze the ones around you
you love and hold on to
your friends because you
don't know when it's time.
And it made, man, I'm tearing up now
Going through everything I'm going through,
it just made it really, really hard.
Kat, we don't know.
They said something about that she,
on her original post,
she said something about
she was needing to have
surgery and recover.
And then it was
complications of her
surgery that caused her death.
That's all the details that
are released about it right now.
So.
yeah I know I know our paths
have crossed um I've been
to enough masters events um
legends did a tribute to
her that was the training
think tank um uh thing to
her tribute to her um and
for all accounts she always
had a big smile she was
also an affiliate owner um
and mom and so yeah our
hearts go out to her and her family
And all of our friends down
there at Training Think Tank,
we're with you.
I know it's got to be hard.
And if there's anything we
can do from a distance,
please let us know.
But, yeah, really sad story.
Yes.
For sure.
So just not to finish on a sad note,
we want to wish our very own catch here.
Happy birthday.
She's no longer 50.
She's no longer 50.
So hope she has a good day on the train.
Let us know about your dropping experience,
Kat.
Yep.
And we'll continue to do
these even with everything
I'm going through,
as long as I can do it from my work desk.
hopefully we'll eventually
get back down to the pod
center after we get this
thing shocked back.
But with that, you guys got anything else?
No, no, no, no kids visiting Amy.
No,
I did have a kid visit over the weekend
and then she refused to
take the bus back home.
So we had to drive her back home.
So that was a fun,
extra three hours out of my
day that we weren't planning on a Sunday.
But I didn't have to work
yesterday because it was a holiday,
so that's good.
The go bus?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Corey would refuse.
Well, next time,
this is how clearly we
communicated this time.
We said, next time you choose to come home,
before you come home,
we're going to have a plan
of how you will be returning to school.
So that we don't get into this
Well, she had a plan.
Yeah.
And she had a bus ticket
because we told her to do a
bus ticket and then there
was some guilting and her
dad drove her back.
So that's easy.
That's easy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We, uh,
we went through the same things and, uh,
eventually it was,
if you want to come home,
you are taking the bus back, um,
or you're stuck your choice.
Yep.
That's, that's what we're going to do.
That's the,
we're going to lay down the
expectation prior.
It's only a 90 minute bus ride.
Oh no.
Oh, she thought it was more.
She was because it makes stops.
Like one.
Yeah.
She's fine.
But, and I told her, I was like,
it's 90 minutes for you,
but it's three hours out of our day.
It's not a bad drive.
It really isn't, but you know,
it's... I'd rather stay if
I'm driving there.
Nothing so bad about it, Kenneth.
It's just them... I don't know.
Wanted to bust our balls.
Alright,
I gotta go get this pedicure so I
can get into hair and makeup.
Just gotta.
Just gotta get there.
I do.
Ridiculous.
My toes are gonna be showing.
Where?
Where?
At the charity event I'm going to Friday.
Well, they got closed-toed shoes.
No.
Not for this.
Can't be eye candy with closed-toed shoes.
See?
You're right.
I know why you're not
wearing closed-toed shoes.
You don't want that
perception out there anymore.
I'm trying to sell feet pics,
so I need my feet to look good.
I have to do advertising.
Now you're talking.
Get them done.
There we go.
Charlie,
you talking about she doesn't want
to put out the vibes like
she did in Madison?
Correct.
We got stories to talk about that later.
All right.
Okay.
With that, guys,
we will see everybody next
time on the Clydesdale Media Roundtable.
Bye, guys.
Bye.