Stone Temple Pilots - Purple | The Worst Song on Purple is...

Ryan and Drew reunite for a heartfelt, nostalgic deep dive into Stone Temple Pilots' 1994 masterpiece **Purple**, their sophomore album and both hosts' undisputed favorite from the band's catalog, celebrating its tight, re-listenable perfection as peak '90s rock without filler. They rave about the album's evolution from *Core*'s grunge roots into heavier, dirtier hard rock with intricate solos, soaring harmonies, dynamic builds, and diverse influences (blues, country, psychedelia), spotlighting standouts like the explosive opener "Meat Plow," hypnotic "Vaseline," romantic "Still Remains," drum-driven "Lounge Fly," iconic "Interstate Love Song," and epic closer "Kitchenware & Candybars." The duo debates singles' longevity (praising "Vaseline" and "Interstate Love Song" while noting "Big Empty"'s Crow soundtrack boost), critiques softer departures like "Pretty Penny" (Beatles/Nirvana echoes) and opener vibes, and swaps playful "worst picks". Wrapping up with laughs over era quirks (trampy outfits, soundtracks, hidden tracks), they pour one out for Scott Weiland, hail *Purple*'s near-flawless status, and tease more '90s rock adventures ahead.

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Ryan Rebalkin

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Drew Clark

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well I'm ready to go whenever you're ready to go absolutely welcome to the worst of the
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best podcast you wanted the best well they didn't freaking make it so here's
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what you get from Canada and Florida Ryan and Drew
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welcome to the worst of the best podcast I am your host and with me today I think
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you're the top returning guests that isn't part of the original well my brother you hold the title for most
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returning guests Drew how you doing I am very very good Ryan it is a beautiful
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December H afternoon here in in Florida we reached an absolutely chilly low of
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about 55 yesterday I couldn't believe it so we're just rolling with the punches down here I'm set to make a big holiday
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trip so I'm glad we could squeeze this in beforehand do you have to do any holiday traveling wait I want to get
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back to your temperature so you said it was it was a chilly 55 degrees Fahrenheit it was a very chilly I I
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would actually called a very chilly 55 degrees F okay so for our Canadian
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listeners that's about 13° C that's like a early spring morning right now -6 C
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that's 3° Fahrenheit it sounds so dirty when you say it like that -16 Cel I
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wouldn't know what to do with that well we did have a winter Vortex come through as they say and it's supposed to go up
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to at least 5° next week for the Christmas break or Christmas week so 5 Dees is a nice balmy 41 Fahrenheit for
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you very good very good so some of the snow will melt it will create an absolute mess you know you'll deal with
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that for the remainder of the winter I suppose yeah oh it will get colder and just in the nick of time our family will
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be flying for those who care or listen who know me personally on a personal level F and I have we sold our house
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here in Quebec and we are flying back to Victoria British Columbia suburb or a little town called Suk just north of
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Victoria on Vancouver Island so if you want to come uh get me and get mad at me for all my past episodes regarding some
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of my worst picks that's where I'll be starting in February I can't wait to go back to really the most moderate and
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best climate in Canada is actually on that island in Canada so we paid an
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island in Canada well it's actually officially an island it's called Vancouver Island not the city of Vancouver this Vancouver the city is
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like on the mainland but there is a island that looks like a cucumber just west of the Mainland you would recognize
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it if you saw it like oh that's it and we're on the southern tip of that Island right above Seattle on a map oh okay so
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you're going to be way over there in the in the Pacific time zone that is is going to make our NeverEnding
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conversation about which time zone each of us are in it's going to make it a little more relevant I think you know
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it's funny for a listeners what Drew is referring to is every time I talk to him I don't know what's wrong with me I always ask him what time zone are you in
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I know you're in Florida but the reason why I asked I think there's two time zones in Florida you are right uh the
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panhandle of Florida which for all intents and purposes we should refer to as South Alabama let's be clear okay the
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panhandle of Florida is different time Zone I don't know why they did that I think most of the reasonable people in
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Florida would vote to remove that issue if we ever got the chance I think most
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reasonable people would also eliminate the issue of the time change twice a year okay you guys do that in Canada too
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oh yeah yeah of course come on I really we we could have a lot of these
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conversations well that that would get very confusing because if I said I'm in the Eastern Time Zone but I'm hour
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behind you that would get very confusing do you know that there's a state in the United States that does not observe the
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daylight yeah they're probably the same provinces that do the same in that same like it's that longitude area so I would
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imagine it's I think it's skatan maybe because I I don't know the Prairie States like what their time zones but
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central time and that never changes I I believe it's Indiana that just does not do that changing nonsense yes yes join
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us on our next episode where we give the worst of the best time zones I'm going with Pacific that's what I'm going for
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the a front runner yeah yeah I'm calling it a front runner oh again we disagree the worst is definitely East Coast because
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what I love about the West Coast time zone is like we watch sports at 4:00 in the afternoon we can watch the late
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games at 7:00 in the evening it's great for sports watching alone I watch late shows like I used to watch like David
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Letterman stuff back in the day so I used to watch David Letterman at 8:30 at night it was nice what do you do
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afterwards that's always been my question go to sleep you go to sleep you go to sleep at 9:00 look would you stop
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at go to bed at 10 10:30 like a normal adult all right here we go we are now doing our Stone Temple Pilots part two
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there sophomore effort the album is called Purple this is a favorite of both of ours Stone Temple Pilots is one of
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our favorite bands like our show states where the worst of the best what we do is we don't pick the best the world
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picks that for us and fans around the world that are Stone Temple pile fans would I would imagine most of them would
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argue that purple is probably their Peak album and I'm going to say for me my
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opinion is this is the best album theyve ever ever made other great albums other great songs but this one I don't think
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was ever toed you remind me quite often during our discussions don't reveal which one you think is the worst are we
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allowed to to talk about things that we consider the best always okay always well yes then I agree with you purple is
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the best Zone Temple Pilots album yeah it is Rel listenable at any point during
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my life I haven't outgrown it I haven't uh drifted away from it in terms of my music interests it's not exactly what
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you hear on the radio right now for people of a certain age that grew up with a certain sort of Music being out
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there uh in the pop culture this is absolutely one of the best rock albums of its generation yeah we could say rock
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now without any kind of hesitation there there is a couple songs we'll get to them that sound a little bit still from
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that uh cousin of grunge but they have really separate themselves with this album Heavy chords incredible solos
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incredible chorus harmonies uh songs that build up and cresendo jam sessions
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at the end of songs it's just a rock album at the end of the day this is an incredible Rock album Heavy dirty I love
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it so much I've listened to it in preparation for this episode and I just kept listening to it like I got to listen to it one more time you know I
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got to make sure I know what I'm getting into here and I I just I forgot in a weird way you know time goes on I mean
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you just I I don't listen to the Same album every day for 25 years so I haven't listened to this like the way I am now almost probably over a decade I'm
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just straight on listening cuz I listen to it at nauseum and rightfully so back when I was a teenager when this came out
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remind me the year '94 it was released on June 7th in 1994 yeah I was 18 when
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it came out oh that is a great just an absolute great Coming of Age year and
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you're striking out on your own both in your musical tastes and in your real life I was 10 I was 10 when this album
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came out we talked about the first album came out in 1992 so I was eight it was
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very unlikely that I was going to get my hands on a set or a CD of that album we had a lot of discussion about how you
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came about your recognition of the Stone Temple Pilots and how I did uh mine was more controlled by the MTV and the radio
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experience and how the singles were pushed to me and the rest of the world I wasn't much older when this album came
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out and so it was sort of the same thing there were different songs that I was exposed to in different ways ultimately
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I did not buy this album when it was released on June 7th did you oh yes you
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were first in line well I don't know about that but I definitely back in the day when you had to go literally go to the store you know stand in line and I
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held this CD in my hands absolutely anticipating a very good experience and a very good experience I got yeah I
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would have absolutely gone to the store to buy this CD I you remember the name of the store there was a few that we
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went to all the time there was one oh a andb sound that's what it was called a andb sound A and B sound for me I would
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have gotten a record like this if it had come out when I was of age of buying these things I would have gotten it at
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the Virgin record mega store yeah we didn't have I would yeah I would have gotten it at the Virgin record maybe in
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like a big city like Toronto or Montreal might have had a virgin record store but uh we didn't have that conglomerate in Victoria where I'm from but am sound was
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the big place to go for stereos and CDs and all that good stuff yeah if you want to hear our love of of stor Temple
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Pilots and how we became a fan of them what they meant to us in our younger years go check out part one where we covered the album core cuz we get into
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that and so much like the sophomore effort no introductions really needed we can just roll right into what this album
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is and what it means to us right now and little things about the songs this is one of my favorite parts of having these
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discussions is actually going back and researching not just some of the critical reception of the album both
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when it came out and then over time but also to look into what was sort of going on with the band at the time this album
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came out in June of 94 their last single from core was plush it was their fourth
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single fifth if you count a radio promo plush won the Grammy for Best hard rock
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song in April of 94 two months later STP is dropping their next album so they're
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capitalizing on having just won a Grammy in their category for one of their biggest songs another thing that was
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happening at this time was two months prior to purple being released but one of the songs was featured as the main
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and only single for a major Motion Picture yes the crow the crow did you
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see the crow I saw oh absolutely I saw in theaters of course I saw it knowing that Brandon Lee had already passed
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passed away or died on set literally he died on set while filming that movie I remember watching it again as a teenager
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I was 18 years old big into action films and seeing this on screen such a fun
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film I remember watching it and hating at the same time and loving it because I was like oh my goodness this is terrible
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he was going to be an explosive new star on the big screen I and I knew he would have been somebody that I would have loved to have seen seen for years to
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come in action movies and what have you his Charisma his good looks his fighting ability everything was there and I was
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just so heartbroken watching this performance knowing that this was a this is all we're going to get it makes you
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wonder whether or not they would release a movie like that under those circumstances today exactly knowing that
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people would go to see it like you did you look at what Marvel is going to do with to Chala and the character how
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they're going to revolve around Chadwick boseman's death and whether or not to continue that series knowing that
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everyone is going to see those movies with just an inevitable sour taste in their mouth knowing well this guy played
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this character there's definitely not going to be a sequel Bren and Lee is not appearing in any further movies if this
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movie is good it's going to be the best thing he ever did and and then it's over well same thing Happ with the Heath
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Ledger pass away before the release of Dark Knight same idea happened we watching this and I think their
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intention was to use him again in part three of that trilogy that could have deprived us of the wonderful memes and
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voice caricatures of Bane I don't know if we could live in a world that didn't have bunch of Frat Boys emulating that
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for three years on end that's true actually so yeah Heath Ledger's death was worth it after all I just put a
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positive spin on it is all I we'll get to that song but I yeah we'll get to that cuz I actually had no idea that that song was a single let alone the
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first single on the album the way that stone Tipple Pilots were riding this wave riding this wave of a Grammy win in
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a another hit single and a piece of a major motion picture that people liked and giving a vibe to that movie The Way
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That soundtracks did at that time and I think still do to a certain extent Stone tole Pilots were kind of on top of the
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world and their debut of this album was huge it sold 3 million albums in the first four months it went on to sell a
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total of six million it was number one on the billboard chart of all the albums released the week that it was released
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and it stayed there it spawned three singles two of them were number one on the Rock charts one of them is one of
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the biggest singles released that year Bar None this was a very successful album both in the planning and the
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execution purple it's one of the top 500 Rock and metal albums it's one of the top 100 guitar albums it's one of the
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top 10 hard rock albums released in 1994 Rolling Stones named it one of the top 50 grunge albums the way I view the word
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grunge and what it instills in maybe someone's mind maybe it this grunge or maybe they are grunge I don't know I
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don't think they are it's the same way people say like hair metal it's something we just say but hair metal
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sounds derogatory I hate using that term because there's some incredibly talented musicians and bands that I love that
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quote unquote may fall under the hair metal category but it strips away what you're really enjoying put in a label on
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it I guess hair metal does sound different than grunge and the bands do sound different under those categories grunge such a pigeon hole time where
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bands like Pearl Jam are still Turing I don't think are we still calling Pearl Jam today after all this time a grunge band in 2020 there's probably five or
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six bands that you would just always throw into that bucket I understand what hair band means and I almost think that
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that's sort of a coincidental moniker rather than a genre defining one can you
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be a hair band if you're bald yeah Judas Priest lead singer there yes absolutely
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if you play Grunge music it sounds kind of grungy there's no physical appearance
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that goes into that other than maybe flannel good old flannel you sent me a message on Facebook and said hey look
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last time you got the evens and I want the evens this time you said so you wanted the evens on this on
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this album and I have the quote unquote odds if you were to say to me Ryan you
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have to have only the songs that are odd on this album or the songs that are even on this album the worst songs on this
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album are the even numbers doesn't me that's what I thought that you would say yeah and not because I don't like them but if I was like man every odd number
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song that's killer that's killer that's killer that's killer so it's going to be interesting to talk to that start of the
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album It's called meatplow have you ever used a meat plow before I've never used
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Scott wyland's meat plow let's say that meat plow would actually be a great band name some of the song names that come
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out of this era and I just go like what on Earth were they thinking it's this in the late 90s the WWF had a character
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that they just named meat they named him meat meat plow is sort of an extension of that it was like a funny word that
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people said in the 90s they thought it was cool I think we all know what they were referring to I don't know what what
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are they referring to tell me well I think it's a Sex Type Thing look at that look at that little call back to the
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debut album so meat plow kicks off the album right
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away five place for a day
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breakdown takes more than a mail down to show us
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how throw a back on the road stop the
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me got a Bo but it ain't
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mine they got these pictures of
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everything to break us down yeah break me
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down they make us hand we
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make but I got a love and she shows me
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what a great intro and it's actually very similar to their intro of core uh
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with Dead and Bloated but the same kind of feeling of it's a little bit slower they got faster songs on this album like
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a faster beat songs this is again a little bit of grunge a little bit that slow drudgery type sound but but a
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little bit lighter than dead unbloated and it has a more constant Rhythm throughout and then we kick into a
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really dirty guitar [Music]
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Soul they got this pictures of everything
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just the guitar the solo and the overlan of the other guitar work that's going on this is this is just a rock piece right
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away I completely agree I actually would say it's a stronger introductory song
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than the first album even though we talked about how memorable the lyrics of
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Dead and Bloated are we also talked about how it's probably a two-minute song that went on for 5 minutes that's
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not what we have here no the timing of meat plow is um 337 337 is more
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tolerable it's actually almost one of the longer songs on this album this album is a tight ship it's 46 minutes I
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mean 47 minutes almost oh killer no filler I mean we don't have an instrumental song on this album we don't
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have a spoken word song on this album we do yeah have a bonus song that may or
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may not be included in it can't be nobody's in it bonus song does not feature any members of own double Pilots
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no now there's a hidden track that starts about 40 45 seconds after the 11th track kitchen wear and candy bars
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and the track is called my second album and for all these years all these years
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until researching I've never Googled I don't ever Google albums that I've listened to for decades I just think I
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know everything about them just because I just oh I do yeah you're good man so I did for this obviously for this podcast
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because I don't want to sound more than a [ __ ] than I am so I used to think that it was Scott cuz he's very versatile in his voice that it was him
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singing like a jazz croner I'm like oh that's very clever but I would have bet my $1,000 that it was the band plane I
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completely completely was fooled for decades yeah do you want to speak to who is actually singing The Hidden Track is
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called my second album it's a really really funny song It's a fourth wall
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breaking song it constantly references how the singer wants his second album to
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sell well he wants you to enjoy it as much as he enjoys Johnny mathys but that is these little inside
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jokes for stle pilot fans but this was actually saying by a man named Richard
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Peterson who was pre-existing artist they bought this song off of him and
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they included it there's a lot of times on this album where Scott does really
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really different things with his voice and it's not like he did it on one song and the next song as well he bounces
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back back and forth back and forth from a country artist to A psychedelic Brit
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pop band and more the bonus song is out of the question it would even be my pick
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there's a song that i' like less than that song it's a clever enough song that it's funny and but yeah it's got nothing
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to do with the S temp other than the fact that they like the song themselves it's from a 1985 album this song was
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already 9 years old and the quality of the recording is very well done they were doing a radio interview promoting
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their upcoming album the lp and the radio station or the cassette Drew their attention so they literally just played
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it on a whim they got a kick out of the title and that's how it ended up on the album I love it I absolutely love it yes
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me plow before we go on the next one talking about Dead and Bloated it's almost like they heard our critique in
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some sort of future weird time space continue because we said that denam BL would have been an incredible song had
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it been shortened by a couple minutes and not been repetitive and me plow did just that you can tell that the writing
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where the writing is headed and what these songs are about further into the album you can see there's an internal
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rhyme structure here that is actually pretty cool the way that he talks about his lover doing this and his brother
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doing that I almost wanted like a triplet of it to talk about his mother well I'm not entirely sure what the
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lover showed him and what the brother showed him I like the lyrical gymnastics that he was doing there the second song
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on the album is a little diddy called Vaseline spelled v a s o l i n e it was
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a big big big hit on radio it was the second single release from the album it
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eventually did reach number one for two weeks it was one of their longer lasting
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radio hits [Music]
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one time a thing occurred to me what's real and what's for sale do a kiss and
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try to take it
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home for things that you can't see going that a reach
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now you accused me last episode of being uh allergic single allergic to singles
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you said I take umbrage to that especially with a song like this you didn't last week I take umbrage with
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this album This Album that does very few things wrong it does a couple but very few things wrong this song it's a single
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I'm glad it's a single it does what a single's supposed to do and for whatever reason I just don't get bored that intro
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the way it kicks in the guitar sound the way Scott starts singing the way the the guitar changes and then the that drum
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beat behind and the bass slap and every this song is it just a gut punch rock song I never tired of it it's immune to
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single itis like Vaseline the singali itis slips off of it that is a wonderful description of this song Ryan three
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points for you in our imaginary game that we just started playing thanks for let mle the rules boy you have to say
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things that I like Ryan that's how it works I lose every episode we record but go on Vaseline was a very very popular
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single uh it was one of their two number ones on the Rock charts Scott says that
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the song is about him feeling like an insect under a magnifying glass what we have here is he's actually struggling
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with drugs on core we talked about Scott wyland's complicated thoughts about
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women about religion about himself and the thoughts that he's having on purple
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we hear only his thoughts about heroin yeah this song has the you know it has
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the it has the repetitive kind of stuck in the same rut it's exciting and it's
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good for three minutes but would you want to live in that song with that sort of thing going uh on and on that's what
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Scott says he was writing about his this constant cycle of being stuck in being a
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junky really not living a new situation he's living the same situation over and
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over again there is a really cool Solo in this
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song lies in the vessel we are sometimes it blows my mind keep getting stuck here
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all the time so again we have scottt doing that almost that side mouth singing all the
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time absolutely well and I think some of this comes to the inspiration of this album that sort of singing out at the
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side of your mouth thing that's a country music thing it's a more folky and a more downhome way of country cring
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in Canada do you guys have any awareness of American country music at all oh we love it up here I don't listen to it but
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there's a huge country fan base can we have our own country stars of course country singers I can't name any because
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I'm an idiot but there are many country stars I just don't listen to that genre of music so I wouldn't be able to name you five artists from Canada well Shai
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Twain of course in the early 90s or mid 90s was a big country pop star on over
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Ryan oh yeah that's right I mean she was boy those videos oh man yeah easy to
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look at there was a very popular music video about this song that came out around the time it played into a lot of
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the tropes of music videos in the the or mid 90s there was a clown of course like
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a creepy clown like a dink the clown on steroids or something on some sort of drugs there were these very quick shots
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of insects and a girl catching butterflies I think that's what they talk about you know in this whole
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Vaseline aspect he says he purposefully misspelled vaseline as a portmanto of
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Vaseline and gasoline the gel is vasoline with an E not an O and gasoline
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obvious is an oilbased product that highly flammable so may have wanted to make a reference to the chemical weapon
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known as Napal there we are with that the um video was creepy as a lot of them
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were it ends with Scott walking through a waterfall of blood lovely correct love
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it okay so now number three loungefly they pushed themselves to new limits new
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sounds on this album where they did not repeat really anything on what they did on core they really pushed new sounds
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new directions argue that they did what way we'll get to it well I to say every song but this is yeah no no yeah it
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probably will speak into what my worst pick might be but oh I know what your worst Pi no you probably don't yes I do
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yes I do what I want you to do is I want you to write it down right now and then you can reveal it to me after I pick it
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and then we'll know if you got it right you think that I'm going to say one thing but it's definitely the other
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thing okay write down first what you think I'm going to say and then write write down what you know I'm going to
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say what you think I'm think you're going to say there you go correct correct holy this is like Inception
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exactly what do you think that I'm thinking that you're thinking exactly okay all right here we go writing it
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down I'm going to write it down your pick let's see here okay I think that you can figure it out can we do two
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choices two choice is that fair out of 11 songs two choices are you going to make me do a top three again oh yeah you
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got have a top three okay all right all right all right yeah go ahead go ahead and do two I don't need to I know exactly which song You
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Hate okay Ryan Ryan I knew it last to you're wrong I knew it last time too
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you're wrong I think you think you think that I know what you're thinking but you're wrong so this is my pick I just
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going to write this down okay this will definitely your top two and this one oh
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well maybe this one okay this is kind of a Dark Horse if you pick this one I hate you but the one I think you're going to
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pick for sure but you will definitely invite me on
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another episode we'll see okay here we go lounge fly if there's a top three
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songs this is it I Lounge fly is in my top three there you go so this is I a top three yeah well we don't really want
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to do that too too much I'll just say this one is I we've often just say what our maybe our favorite song is maybe two
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songs because we don't want to obviously like we say that 10 times and obviously the 11th one that we didn't say was our
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favorite song would be our worst pick okay here we go
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loungefly what an intro I just love that sound I do love the intro you have any
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idea I was going to ask you since you played the intro what is that instrument I heard it was a a a tape like a tape
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rewind so it's just a backwards effect so you could oh so it's something they did in post production yeah I don't think you could you could do that part
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live necessarily I don't sandpaper to me you know like really good sounding sandpaper yeah I think it just kind of
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sets the mood it sets the mood of the [Music]
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song This is a drum this is a drum song okay this is a drum song
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it's okay it's okay okays on meend on me me you kill me the
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loue fly the loue fly the fly you bring me I think I'm free with the dogs they won't releas don't have a Niger or a
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dollar but my Bott EMP but always will feel I'm
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sing what an intro even when you hear that for the first time like where's the song going to go and then it just kicks in with that I love the the way he this
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is a speak sing song that we've talked about this I completely agree it sounds like he's reading a poem
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yeah I just love the way he's able to do that but still make it sound it's hard
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to I said a thousand times on this show I can't sing a note to save my life but to even to be able to kind of talk sing
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you got to be able to do that without it make it sound like you're just talking Lounge fly set me up for what this Vibe
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was going to be this is a guy just ripping but he certainly knows the Rhythm that he's going to sing in and
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that's sort of more important than the words this actually has some of the more
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intricate words and lyrics in a lot of the songs here I really enjoy some of it
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and it builds it's a five minute song that takes all of that five minutes and 18 seconds to get where it's going
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there's no boring part in the song at all it's five minutes long but they pack like you said so much into it I guess
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it's officially their longest song Because kitchen wearing cany bars text on the hidden track for Tim length so
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loung fly is the longest song but again unlike the Dead and Bloated from their first album this it it just has time
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changes has s and we're going to go to that time change right now where it's almost like oh we got a different song going on here the lyrics at the end of
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the song where he keeps repeating uh she said she'd be my woman she said she'd be
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my man those were lyrics from an earlier Mighty Joe Young song I have to go on
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YouTube I bet there's some demos out there of that stuff there are some demos also there's this great ending guitar
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solo that you may be teeing up here do you know that the actual performer on
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this solo is not a stone triple pilot is this my pick or is this your pick you're like oh my goodness I really really love
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doing the research Ryan I admit some of my research is pretty lacky and I apologize I'm not we've establish this
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I'm more the feeling guy how does it make me feel am I tap my foot am I enjoying it you're very good researcher
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that's almost like your job in real life very close yeah so it's something that you're good at and no I appreciate it
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but that's like the one piece of trivia that I had for this song so let me say it right so tell me everything you know
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about Paul ly okay well he's a butthole surfer you're damn right he is okay
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that's the name of the band guys just so nobody asks me I didn't I didn't name call him he's from a band called The Butthole Surfers that I heard about even
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back in the '90s just cuz that name is so memorable unbeknown to me it wasn't Dean Dean de that played this it was uh
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their friend friend of the band plays the outro in this the soul and outro which you'll hear right now
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music] I can give what I take away oh that's a
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great solo so good job to Mr lry on that and the drums though you this is that drum behind that it's like a Tribble
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type just the way it just bounces all over the place I just love it hats off to Curts on that absolutely absolutely I
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I think there's a lot of room for some great solos in this and I don't know if you would consider what the drummer does
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as a solo but he outshines all of it on this song There is some notable drums on
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some later songs and he really switches it up and shows what he can do with different instruments and and whatnot
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it's a drum driven song and I really really really enjoyed it sorry for stepping on your toes with my bit of
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triv it's okay it's like I said I've that was the my Peak research that was it that I was going to shine on that one
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but uh oh well I want you to tell us as much as you can about the butthole sorfers I really think this is important
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that's all I know we've exhausted my knowledge I and and again with uh with my research on
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this album I've never Googled the album I just listened to it again thought that was Dean the whole time so again I've
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had two things occur to me on this research is that my second album is not a song At All by the band The Guitar
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sold at the end of louish fly a great part by the way but they gave that to their friend so that's fun really great
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part and an uncredited feature role I just don't know if in 1994 rock bands
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were featuring people and crediting them in that way it might have been the liner notes I never saw it all right number
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four is a song called Interstate love song what do you call freeways in Canada
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highways highways yeah freeway I know I wonder if that's more of an American thing than Canadian you don't have
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interat no we don't have interstates we have interprovincial yeah I'm GNA sound like anidi people that are
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Canadian are be like of course Ryan there's freeways in Canada you're an idiot which is true again I've never said I'm not an idiot I'm just saying
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where I'm from in Victoria there's highways absolutely and they're labeled as such but I don't think anything's
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labeled as a freeway freeway kind of denotes a larger piece of highway or more Lanes
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maybe that's an interesting discussion I have never had any sort of a distinction
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between a freeway and a highway an interstate is clearly something like we have Interstate 70 that goes from
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Colorado to Maryland that's an interstate highways can be like State highways freeways are clearly just a
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differentiation between a free Road and a toll road I sure wish there was some sort of tool that we could use where you
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you put in your question or query and some sort of pre-research would come up and you could read it my tool for this
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is my authoritative Source on all things Canadian Ryan rebal okay well here we go all freeways Drew all freeways are
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highways but not every Highway is a freeway I like that a freeway is a
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controlled access Highway also known as an Express Highway that's designed exclusively for car traffic or vehicle
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traffic traffic flow on a freeway is unhindered because there are no traffic lights signals intersections or atgr
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Crossings with other roads railroads and pedestrian path so the main difference between freeways and multiple highways
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is that in the case of freeways these roads are separated from the rest of the traffic and it can be accessed by ramps
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ah yes that would so we have freeways in Canada we just often don't refer to them because of course we have off ramps but
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that's what it means so wait a second wait a second we let you have off ramps I know you finally thank you America for
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giving Canada off ramps we appreciate that so there you go off ramps that's your key so Highway doesn't have to have
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an offramp what we have here number four on Stone Temple Pilots Purple is a song
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about off-ramps yes Scott wyland's love of off ramps his tendency to deceive
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them and let them down actually Interstate loves song was released in September of 1994 it's the third single
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off of purple it is an instantly iconic song almost no matter where you jump in
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you listen to the beginning and you sort of have that ramp up with an incredible
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incredible Bass Performance and then leag guitar performance if you isolate
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the vocals as you might do in Scott wyland's acoustic performance on the BBC
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he really really shined both singing and humming his lyrics here are secondary things that he does with
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his voice the Simplicity really of the way that the band interacts together
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[Music]
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we on a Sunday afternoon I between the
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L life [Music]
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[Applause] [Music] [Applause] feeling like a hand and rested CH so do
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you laugh to cry
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reply with the opening it reminds you of the the country rock inspiration of some
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of the songs on this album this and one of the other singles very heavily inspired by blues and country rock
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the guitars are not playing over each other the instruments are not fighting
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with each other it almost seems these sounds are inherently existing together
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and they know when one comes in and one comes out this is only a 3 minute and
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14c song it's just purely packed with these hooks there's a guitar hook
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there's you know all of the different lyrical things he does obviously this song was a monster hit at debuted number
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one taking the spot of Vaseline it was number 18 on the top 100 probably the
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biggest hit of Stone Temple Pilot's career just in terms of that sort of thing it's obviously got longevity it
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has a lot of genre Inspirations that spoke to me at that time I told you that
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I was a big listener of the radio well one of the things that I listen to on the radio when I didn't get to choose
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the station it was country music and that's something that brought me to this song because it did not sound like all
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of the other Stone pilot songs it sounded inspired by some of those other
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[Music] genres train only
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yesterday you
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promisees what I seem to be holy
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was go by all the
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you said to me great Baseline by Rob there too really hearing the Basse on
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this remastered version of the album to remind everyone that we're listening to the re-released version that came out I
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believe in 2019 for the 25th anniversary I'm listening to it on Apple music this
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is a single and I'm not g to say anything other than I know it's a single and I get why it's a single it is a
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great single it's a great song it's not boring at all it doesn't suffer from plush it it does not suffer from creep
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iish for me I think it's aged better than those songs absolutely again so as a single it's a stronger single I
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recognize why it has longevity it showcases Scott's singing abilities and the uh the composition skills of the de
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brother specifically Rob who does most of the compositions of these songs so yeah I mean I don't really have anything
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bad to say about it I'm not trying to do a trick anyone here or anything I'm just telling the truth I get the song and I get it is why it is does the song speak
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to you Ryan I can never relate with the inter state so there's been this Rift between you
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and off ramps that we just haven't been able to figure out I do miss making out in the car though I I did that as a
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teenager and uh boy as a a young kid I definitely knew this song before I knew
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the name you're not going to tag off my line I miss making out in cars Drew I the beauty of being young and driving
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you're 16 years old you got a date in the car and you know I'm sure I played this song with a girl in the car was I
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supposed to call you old here I think so I think that's that's I've just aged myself why would they name it this I
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think the the word Interstate sort of indicates perhaps a longdistance thing
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or perhaps a like a longing that you have for a person or in this instance
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where you can tell the point of view of the song is someone that has lied and
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been lied to these are the overwhelming tropes of this song the conversations
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that we had and the untruth that I told you it's not exactly an apology it is a
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regret in the instance of regretting the misdeeds that have been done the lyrics
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of this song he ends the first chorus with all of these things you said to me
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that's very iconic everyone sings that part he ends the second chorus with all of these things I said to you right yeah
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so it sort of comes full circle this was a toxic relationship on both parts right
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that was very interesting to me because there is the very very famous BBC recording of the acoustic version and
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it's on this Deluxe album that we're listening to the acoustic version of
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this song that was released and was popularly played on radio and I think I downloaded it on kazah back in the day
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right he does not change the lyric he repeats all of these things you said to
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me hm well obviously the girl is the problem as is usually the case girl liar right
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and if she's got something to say to Scott she can write her own song but uh write your own song well clearly this
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was a song that that Scott wrote about his trouble with addiction and his lies
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to his at this point this was specifically his lies to his significant other who was his wife at the time the
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video for this song is I dare say very on the nose the video of this song
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features like a mind type character in a silent movie he gets kicked out of his
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home with a woman and at that time his nose starts growing he starts being
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hunted by some unseen forces there's a helicopter at one point uh the band drives out to the desert and Scott
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dances around with a pink feathery jacket very iconic and all the while
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this Pinocchio type character the nose just keeps growing I he jumps into a ditch or something presumed dead the
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Pinocchio mime type character from the interstate love song video song five
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Still [Music] [Applause] [Music]
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[Applause] [Music]
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[Applause] Remains our bed we live our bed we sleep
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making love and N me BL is w all what they could be
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stepping for and you be [Music]
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[Applause] [Music] [Applause]
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[Music] [Applause] [Music] coming
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no it's a song and sing i [Applause]
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y take a bath I'll trink the water that
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you if you should before me I don't want
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to stop it oh okay don't stop it I know I just I'm sorry again we have to love
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this song so much it just I know something about the way he sings the guitar strum like the guitar tone the
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strumming of the sound I just sway back and forth It's almost like a slow song but it's not a soul song but you can
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slow dance to the song Almost you know like the way it just goes back and forth and I could just picture myself like on
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a beach you know with my again teenage days you know on the beach with my girl
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or driving the summer night drive or something it's just the song just it's a romantic song in a weird way that's what
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I wrote down really this is romantic song yeah yeah it is it really is it's it's ironically Maybe This Is The Love
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Song and I was going to also I hate it when I say I was going to say I I always edit that stuff out by the way cuz it's
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redundant I'm going to say something here I go here I go I'm going to say it I'm I don't even notice what you eded
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out about me I'm sure you eded out all the sort of I do I any yeah well it's
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for everyone that record with anything anyone that says like sort of you know that's all I know anyways okay so so
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that's I just said so and I add out all my so so here we go so Still Remains
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ironica was not a single and it's it's this song where it would have ruled as a
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single I think it would have been an amazing single I think it could have been interchanged with Interstate Love Song and again
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Interstate love song does suffer for me personally cuz I've been listening to I've been listening to this album for 25
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years it's not the fault of the song so I'm just being honest it does suffer a little bit from single itis because I
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I'm so aware of it's airpl It's video play it's a much music MTV play I wonder alternate universe Ryan would feel the
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same way but still remains had that been the single and not Interstate love song I don't know if I can imagine this being
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a single really I understand a certain strategy with rock bands and slow songs
47:33
you want to release it as the second single off of an album you want to have a song that sounds like your stuff and
47:40
then you want to release your attempt at a slow song and you have this third single lined up that also sounds like
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your rock and roll stuff that you're sort of ready to unleash if the slow song doesn't take off so I'm not
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entirely sure if Still Remains would have been that second single spot instead of it would have been like big
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empty and then Still Remains I you don't go too no well they went big well now we kind of spoiled The Big Empty was the
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first single well yeah that's not a spoiler yeah we didn't mention it yet we were going to say we're going to tell which song it was so we didn't say it
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yet so that's just sort of my thing is maybe in the planning it would certainly go as a fourth sing after yeah yeah I
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think so because really really enjoy the lyrics here you see that he's he's talking about flowers a lot there's
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flowers all over the thing he gets really image filled he says a yellow nectar ring he says what was the other
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one he says something about orange yeah orange blossoms he's being very very descriptive and very Illuminating for
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what he's talking about obviously you've got one of the alltime lines Ryan I did not know that the Stone Temple Pilots
48:44
podcast would cross over with our celebrity items for sale podcast but I
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want to talk to you about take a bath I'll drink the water that you leave who did that again who who bottled their
48:57
water that was our gamer girl bath water podcast that's our gamer girl if I
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recall correctly I got you to admit that you currently own two bottles of gamergirl bath water that that's that's
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accurate still one I I drank one of them I had to you Dr for strength and
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vitility yeah so Still Remains however is a great companion to Interstate Love Song those
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two go hand in hand I think they're good companion pieces obviously the track listing in order was intentional so I
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think that was their intention there I have actually heard and seen some discussion about the placement of the
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songs on this album we had a short discussion previously about how core seemed it was a very intentionally
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planned album where the singles were positioned and what was between them and how it ended and this and that I believe
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that this album falls into the same category I think that this was a different era when plans were made to
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put the songs in a certain order and that may be the explanation for why things are where they are there was a really cool part at
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about 220 yeah again this is my would you stop this is my okay that I know
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where the good stuff is that was my again I Tim stamped that same thing now people aren going to sound like church
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bells at that point that's what I really like so go ahead play that part
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[Music] [Applause] [Music]
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tells the things live well drink the
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[Music] wi such clever lyrics and clever word
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placement drink the wine save the I I love that lyric I love the way it sounds the way it's delivered it's just a and
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then again he says skin is smooth I steal a glance dragonflies are Gliding Over so he's talking about flowers and
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fruits and dragonflies it's a beautiful song it's just in terms of his choices
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on this one much different than some of the other ones where we'd be like um you know Simple lyrics or whatever bugs in a
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jar this and that no no he's painting a picture here he really is this song very
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hippie like it's almost like I can see the flowers in the hair in 1960s free love it's I think he was drawing from
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that imagery that it's just so it makes me feel peaceful I agree they have some songs where they certainly get louder
51:33
and they certainly do some different things with collaborations of the guitars and the grunge style or the alt
51:39
Rock style or whatever they're moving into this one stays pretty consistent probably the closest thing to a romantic
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song or love song all right number six is a promotional single that was
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released from this album it was not made into a music video it was not actually
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charted in any real official way this is a song called pretty penny the song is
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definitely a departure from any sort of grung rock or alt Rock sounding the
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guitars are not crunchy and distorted in the way that they are in the other songs
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this is very very different from the song that precedes it and the song that follows it but it is a song that is
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again about drugs again does have some pretty clear references to a a girl that
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is uh unfortunately involved in drugs and how that goes for [Music]
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her when you wake in the morning gone when you find that there's no one
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sleeping gone pretty penny was her name
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she was loved and we all will miss her how far
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will at first listen if not Stone Temple Pilots who does this remind you of Ryan
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yes this is probably where they just for the record I'm on the fence with my pick
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which will be very interesting to see which one you wrote down and don't reveal I'm not going to look at your
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head or your eyes cuz I can see on camera but I'm going to say this for our audio audience that I would assume this
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was one of your two picks but don't confirm or deny with any kind of verbal cuz I'm I'm looking away I'm guessing
53:22
what you guess that I was going to guess that you guessed you put pretty penny
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as one of my top two worst songs or if not even the worst song a note right
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here and I'm not changing it I'm letting you know okay I'm gonna put it put it right here okay so that being that being
53:39
said it's a well-crafted song Wells song whatever but it draws or too much
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unintentionally so maybe from uh Nirvana's cracker wow that's where you
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went with it Nirvana's crack yeah is there anyone that you think Nirvana's
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cracker was inspired by maybe go please do tell perhaps the biggest band of the
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1960s well the Beatles that's the beetle song Baby Which beetle song Wan wood
54:08
this bird has flown oh I love that song the satar the satar really only shows up
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in in certain [Music]
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songs G [Music]
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oh [Music] [Applause]
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[Music] it I I was just going to say like
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anything after they went to India literally yeah yeah George got into the
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satar and and I mean John was going nuts already so that just added to it that's
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fantastic good good that's a great pull yeah I hear it now absolutely listen to the song without thinking Beatles ripoff
54:58
when you hear later Stone Tipple pilot songs or like I don't know a lot of
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stuff on songs from ban gift shop I thought that they were going in this way what this song's classified is it's
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called a psychedelic rock song it's called a folk rock song did you happen
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to listen to the second Panic at the Disco album pretty odd no I don't I've never heard any they made the same
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mistakes that stone tole pilots make on this song for a stone tole Pilots song it's fine but you know it very very
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clearly hearkens to what was going on there 30 years ago
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[Music]
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I just like that hypnotic bridge that they do there I think that's one of the better parts of that song but I will
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admit I don't really think I like sitar oh okay fair enough well of course it's
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fair enough look this is not a perfect album but it's if I had to give it a score out of 100 I don't know 95 even my
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worst pick I don't if somebody didn't skip it like on the core album again I'll be happy if I never hear creep or
56:25
plush again I'll be happy to this day I will for never I'll never put it on on purpose I'm sorry I'll die never hearing
56:31
it again from me hitting play but this album I could have have on random without access to skipping a song and I
56:36
wouldn't freak out that's the difference between the two albums for me and it's good to have that confidence in what you
56:42
like and what you don't like and clearly you came at these songs much differently than I did and you had an ear for what
56:48
you you liked and I had an ear for what what was
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on track seven silver gone Superman great titles on this whole album this is
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one of my favorite titles this is probably the best Superman song ever written and yes that means you crash test
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[Music]
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dummies find you in the dark read you like a cheap Bri is
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without shame tell me I frame your name I could
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hear when the big whisper s jealousy is a weapon you kill me keep it down for
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truth you might [Applause]
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tell you
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told it I love it [Applause]
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[Music] was I love the song I truly do I think you probably knew that I love the song
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yeah I did I just love the way he he sings that low singing tenor and he kicks him with this high with the chorus
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and we got of hear that little sitar going on in the background I don't know if that's a little satar sound did you catch that I catch it you're trying to
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put this on my [ __ ] list man no no I'm not I am not I I just love the song the
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way he sings it and and it kicks into a amazing solo and this is of course this
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is Dean a nice long solo but I'm going to play it anyways cuz I don't care you wanted to make sure I didn't call that
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one out this is me this is my time stamp [Applause]
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[Music]
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oh
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[Music]
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[Applause] Wicked Soul at the end yeah it's a great
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song great rock song and anytime you can mention Superman the song is always bonus of my books he's my favorite comic
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book hero so your favorite comic book her so we're almost leaving the stone tle Pilots conversation Al together but
59:52
would you consider the three doors Down song Kryptonite a Superman song yeah I I
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would say so you can't say Kryptonite not associated with Superman is Kryptonite better than the song no no
1:00:06
okay what about the 2002 smash hit by rapper Eminem Superman
1:00:13
no all right so it's just down to the Stone Temple Pilots and the Crash Test Dummies probably yeah Crash Test Dummies
1:00:19
is a great song it's a great song and that is a great song about Superman but Five for Fighting can go jump on a lake
1:00:26
stop it silver gun Superman is a fantastic song it's back to the very traditional
1:00:32
Stone tle pilot style after that pretty penny interlude what I enjoyed was the
1:00:39
overuse almost of the idiom you towed the line I think it's really really fun
1:00:47
when bands use idioms in terms of phrase like that and Stone Temple Pilots does it again later in this album and I'm but
1:00:54
I really really enjoys when they use that as a repetitive part of their chorus there's a band that I really like
1:00:59
called an Berlin that does that quite often it's a very easy way to relate to
1:01:04
a song you know what that idiom means and it sort of makes you grin a little bit when you see how they're speaking
1:01:10
they're saying one thing but you know what they mean in the instance of Scott wyland's drug issues do you think Toad
1:01:16
the line might mean something else as well or to line I see line of cocaine
1:01:23
yeah that would be right that would be right was Toad the Wet Sprocket a thing at this point seven different
1:01:29
possibilities for what he means here when he says Toad the line maybe are you a fan of Toad the Wet Sprocket you'll
1:01:36
find out during our next podcast the worst of the best Toad the Wet Sprocket
1:01:41
hosted exclusively by you just drew solo talking about a band
1:01:47
he doesn't know much about oh man I really enjoyed silver gun Superman the
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next song is the one that we've been alluding to along this is is a song
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called Big Empty it was the lead single off of The Crow soundtrack it was the
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only single on The Crow soundtrack it was a song that was released as a single
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from The Crow soundtrack three months before the stone Tipple Pilots Purple album was released it is definitely
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something that set off this album to sort of have the big sales that it did in the big radio performance that it did
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the song actually was performed live on the MTV Unplugged episode in November of
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93 I really enjoyed that unplugged episode because you know wasn't this
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hard-hitting grunge guitars I really think that my parents at the time for a nine-year-old were okay with me watching
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an acoustic performance as opposed to like a live concert of mosh Pitts and whatnot seeing this song performed
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acoustically was really really nice in that original session the interesting thing about this song is that they never
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made a video for this song despite it being the lead single off of a big hit
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movie that had this very interesting imagery of this goth superhero who was
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resurrected rock star that's who the crow was a resurrected musician who uh
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wanted to avenge the death of his wife and child I believe they' never made a video that had STP in the crow world you
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remember those videos from Nicholas Cage and the goooo video
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for City of Angels I got to pull up my naming other band's Bingle card we've got Google dolls fire for fighting to
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the Wet Sprocket th ey blind Beatles you stop me from saying the next
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things on my list because I do want to discuss this uh Smashing Pumpkin oh here we go that was my that's the last one I
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needed that was it big [Laughter] big the first Spider-Man movie had a
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soundtrack that had a hit single named hero from your favorite band Canada's
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own Nickelback all right we've totally derailed this episode this is we plugged
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we we brought up Nickelback and I think that's an automatic I've actually sort of made a rule that we're going to talk
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about Nickelback on every episode we do from here on out this will be your last episode if that's the case I'm going to
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be one for one in my search for Nickelback when it comes to soundtracks
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I thought that this was very interesting in the growth of STP and the sales of this album that they would be the only
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single off of this soundtrack the soundtrack also included bands like nine
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in Nails The Cure panta Rage Against the Machine the violent fims when you get
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put on a soundtrack with these other bands you are telling the audience that you are part of this sort of genre that
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sort of defines this movie it sort of creates new genres that's not grunge that's not hairband that's not metal
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it's the Bands That Make Music that fits for this movie and there were other bands during this time or other songs
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and soundtracks during this time that sort of showed the thing I really enjoyed some soundtracks in the mid90s
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like the Space Jam soundtrack some soundtracks like the aforementioned Smashing Pumpkins Batman soundtrack
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these were ones that put songs together so that I could be introduced to new bands that fit a certain mold with the
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ones that I liked and again I was very young when these things happen The Crow soundtrack 3 million albums almost four
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million albums so clearly they were doing something right Ryan what's your thought on soundtracks are you okay with
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the movie production company to tell you what songs should go in your movies kind of like obviously Greatest Hits package
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but yeah it's a various artist package for a film that fits the tone of the film did you find that Stone Temple
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Pilots fit the tone of the crow film you know what I saw the crow film in the theaters I'm a huge Stone Temple piles
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fan when this album came out like I didn't know that this was a single I didn't know this was a single let alone on The Crow soundtrack I didn't even
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know that wow so to answer your question I've never once bought a movie soundtrack that had the various artists
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on it I however have bought and enjoy the score soundtracks I love that oh I
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appreciate knowing that who's your favorite oh who's your favorite score artist I was Zimmer I love some H Zimmer
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yeah Trevor Jones the last hean soundtrack makes me cry who did that one Trevor Jones that's Trevor Jones okay
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John Williams is a classic answer as well right he is I'm not a big fan of him because I find he's always just John
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Williams e again the Gladiator soundtrack can you imagine that movie without that soundtrack no and I know
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people would argue that with Star Wars but I feel like John Williams he's created some incredible scores because I'm not I'm not a big Stephen Spielberg
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fan and I think that I associate Williams with Spielberg and I'm not a big Spielberg I associate Williams with Lucas interesting well because Lucas did
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Star Wars Jones those are the first two and those are great scores great themes the Jones themes and Star Wars themes I
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I love but I'm not a big Spielberg fan and John Williams has scored everything that Spielberg's done almost so certainly has anyways all right we're
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learning Lots this episode and thank you for indulging here's a little bit of Big
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[Music] Empty too much walking shoes worn
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thin too much tripping and my Souls War
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[Music] th time to catch a ride it leaves today
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her name is what it means too much walking
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[Music] sh time to take her home her easy
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is yeah cut it out before conversations killed but that's fine I think that at
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the end of the day this is the love child of creep and plush that those two songs come together to create the vibe
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that we have here no wonder this was a big hit because those were both big hits so after Big Empty we come with the song
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unglued a perfectly app named title for the level of energy that the song is because now the band becomes a little
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bit unglued and they're like enough of that big empty
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[Music]
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[Music] modation but it's what what makes you feel good I'm St about about I
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was yeah thing is going on me I got this
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thing is going on me I got this feel going over me
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[Applause] oh first off what a killer this goes right away into this Rocking song If you
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hear this live at a concert you're not you're not not moving you are moving your feet your hands this a Jump Around
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song for sure yeah this was a radio promo was it not it was a radio promo
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absolutely it got to number eight on the mainstream charts yeah and was performed
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live on my favorite talk show host David Letterman he's my he's my favorite if you like David Letterman humor then you
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get my humor that's probably the easiest way to I think that's why you do top 10 list and things like that yeah there you
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go I should do the worst of the best of top 10 list okay just like 25 seconds after what we just where we just stopped
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it it kicks into a wicked guitar solo [Applause]
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[Music]
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moderation [Music] mation
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what so the song's it's the sister the cousin of Vaseline in many ways it's short quick dirty rocking doesn't let up
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if you skip skip the song depart from my episode leave now if you skip this song
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I Really really enjoy unglued I almost think it's like a punk song it just goes
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hard two minutes and 30 seconds there's nothing wasted there this was the last
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song that Scott performed live really one that he really enjoyed and I think
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he was playing it with his band in 2014 or 2015 when he was touring uh as a solo
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artist that this is the last one that he performed lives on almost the 5year
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anniversary of his passing he passed on December 5th 2015 so we are in the
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anniversary month I think that uh we can pour one out for Scott for unglued and
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this promotional single that was uh one of his favorites and it breaks my heart that he's passed G I hate that it breaks
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my heart but with everything that was going on in the 90s with artists like him we could almost say that he was
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lucky to make it as long as he did yeah we still had four albums after this one with the band we were blessed with so
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much that he did after that there are some great live performances that like hard rock in 2010 that he did when he
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came back to the band people really enjoyed that 2010 album that they put out he lived longer than Lane Staley and
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Kurt Cain so so number 10 is a song called army ants this is a song that is
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not a single it is about 3 minutes and 46 seconds s it's one of the longer
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songs on the album it has an absolutely beautiful intro Scott starts off yelling
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in the song at first but he then actually gets into singing I like what he did on pretty Penney and sort of like
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what he's done on different other songs he's singing in a tone that we really haven't heard him singing before which is interesting that he changes things in
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these albums there's a really fantastic Bridge uh about two minutes long and it it's a song that has you know some good
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solos it I don't think that it ever would have made it to be a single but it's a great great bside track
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[Applause] [Music] to KI you can't feel to hit man you
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can't do with the way I I love the way that the time change
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happens there in that solo it's just in the right ear too which is an interesting choice that's very interesting that they would do that I
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really enjoyed the bridge there that sort of sounds like a lead Zeppelin type of thing or you know some some
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inspiration there I hear it in a lot of alt alt rock bands that I've listened to for 20 plus years I think it's beautiful
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I think it's a great way to string together some pretty louder and more energetic portions of their song well
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the last song on the album kitchen wear and candy bars the most interesting titled song on the album and in Canada
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we actually call them chocolate bars there's no such thing as a candy bar in Canada well they exist but we call them
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chocolate bars so yeah just a little little trivia there Canadians call it chocolate bars
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but I was in the states for four years I've mentioned that before with the post scene for 2011 to 2015 I call Pop soda
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now from Ohio I call it pop oh there you go yeah there are some Eastern State or yeah eastern states do kind of it's very
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sporadic it's like Midwest but like half the Midwest yeah or you can just call it soda pop and everyone kind of
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understands at that point kitchen wear and candy bars I'm just going to say I love this song I I like it too oh it's
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the [Music]
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buildup I'll edit this intro guitar it's a little bit long but that's what I hear is singing here
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[Music] somebody told
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me I know where to go
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somebody showed me I was last to
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know sell me down the river sell me down the
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river sell me down the river [Music]
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s me down the river what I
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want what I want am what I
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[Applause] [Music] want okay so this song has such an
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incredible buildup and we're going to play the cresendo or the climax and the
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Apex of this song it's at the end the album this is an incredible album closer and it ends with an emotional punch I
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mean granted there's a hidden track but we've already talked about that but this is incredible album closer I just love
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the energy and the emotion that he sings Scott sings at the end at the 2-minute 45 second Mark we have very subtle
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string instruments kick in and then that guitar solo and the way he just ah the way he sings it at the end I just I am
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just let me get it queued up
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somebody show me that was the last to
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know sell me down the river sell me down the
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river sell me down the river sell me down the
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river what I want is what I
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want what I [Music]
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want I'm going to keep it going I don't care uhuh it's all
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[Music]
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crunchy oh man [Music]
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what I want what I want
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[Music]
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[Music]
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I love buildup songs I just love them so much and just the power at the end just the way he sings in that crunchy guitar
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it goes back to the uh the string instruments kick in and just chills uh yeah Crescendo songs are fantastic but a
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crescendo song with a string section like you got me you got me you made it
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happen I wish they had a string section on eight of these songs instead of one I just love this song so much so
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powerful so emotional and it just H what an Ender what an Ender to this uh
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discussion in album I absolutely love the song I think that as far as his use
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of a repetitive idiom fell me down the river it's just one of these things that
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like a paranoid person thinks it's one of these things that a sensitive and an
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internal sort of living person thinks is that at any point someone is going to
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turn on them someone is going to use their success for their own means and
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it's almost folky to to use this term sell me down the river if he needed to
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make it any more clear he's afraid of his own success this is a song reflecting his internal thoughts about
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it I think it's a fantastic song I absolutely love the build everything about it appeals to me it cuts off at
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about the 430 Mark and then we go into uh what did you say say a 45 second you
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know stoppage and then we get some really weird but interesting and I think
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funny bonus song okay we'll play it just for a little bit just so we people know what we're talking about again this is
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not anyone from the band this is a song that they heard during the recording of
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the album that they thought it' be fun to to insert at the end of the album stating this is our second album so it's
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basically another artist talking about a second album they thought would be a great way to end it in a humorous way
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[Music] [Applause]
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[Applause] the second album 12 precious
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Melodies this would be the 12 hope you enjoy
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them like if it's s to me
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[Applause] listen to 12 great Tunes playing on your
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stereo dining and dancing soon entertain
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[Music] on I could see Scott changing his voice
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to sound like that he was certainly capable I think it's entirely in tune with his sense of humor yeah exactly
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it's 100% his sense of humor to do this sort of song where he talks about please
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buy my my new album and this is not the style of music that it will be but I
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mean he's got this song called Lounge fly this sounds like a lounge singer you know what I hear when I hear this I hear
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at the Copa Copa Cabana that's what I hear when I hear this little diddy that they threw on at the end but I really
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really love it it's a departure from everything and I like it I would dare say I like it more than I like pretty
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penny but uh I have complicated thoughts about this album I think they're all good
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whenever you feel like it oh yeah it's good okay so I admit your remarks
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regarding pretty penny I don't know if that was designed to throw me off my game what is your game Ryan I made a
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pick my two picks for you because I know you dislike lame song so I
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figured so so I know that you hate singles you know that I hate lame
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things because I think maybe I'm more wrong than you go ahead and you tell me
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can you name me the three songs that are in my bottom three or just the two the three songs in your bottom three
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Big Empty interstate and kitchen wear kitchen wear sure oh no I had to pick
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one no no no no no so what did you say I said Big Empty interstate and kitchen wear no kitchen wear is I just finished
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gushing about that how two out of three okay got two out of three yeah most easy thing in the planet to name your two out
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of three I understand I'm surprised you didn't throw in what did you say he pretty penny I'm surprised you didn't throw that in no I think that you like
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pretty penny this is just a fun game there's no harm and cuz I totally screwed up my guesses with you okay so
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you got yeah you got two out of three no I love kitchen wear I guess cuz I just finished gushing about it how much I loved it I thought that you were putting
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on a see we were overthinking it no no I wouldn't lie to you I wouldn't lie to you my bottom three are I think had I
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not played this game with you I think you would have picked Interstate Love Song which you did pretty penny and big empty but interstate love song
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It suffers from single itis but that's why I was being objective by saying hand suffers from being one of the most
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successful songs ever yes suffers suffers it's not my bottom to there you
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go because it's a great song it only suffers from being a single and it's not that song's fault so if I look at it
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objectively it's a good song it's just doesn't get me moving doesn't get me emotional like kitchen wear does it
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doesn't get me grooving like unglued does or banging my head like Vaseline does that's no fault of its own but still not
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to me it's a middle of the pack of a great album great song okay so yes now we're down to pretty penny and big empty
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and which one of those two is my pick you wrote it down yes Big Empty it's Big Empty obviously it was
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obvious so the reason why I don't like Big Empty compared to pretty penny pretty peny is pretty pretty pretty peny
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is pretty close to being the worst but at least it's something a little bit different it's acous
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it has a little bit of Harmony at least it's it stands out enough that it's just different even though it reminds me of
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n's cracker but it and it does speak a little bit to the sound of the time all the things work against it but it's just
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enough of a different song and it's not very long well it's actually 3 almost 4 minutes long big empty It suffers from
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just being a little bit boring it's just a boring song the chorus does save it the preor stuff is extremely boring and
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then the chorus is good but it's too repetitive that song fell off this album
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this would be a 98% album It's a near Perfect album but Big Empty it's just not and it's long it's almost 5 minutes
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long and if they shorten it through in a guitar Soul maybe it's just it just takes forever to go nowhere it went
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directly to number three on the billboard mainstream rock jarts it went directly to the MTV movie award for best
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song in 1994 can I guess your two worse you want to guess my bottom three so we're not
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including my second album we're just including the 11 from the original release I don't think I'm going to get
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anything right I'm really confused you're rundown of the album I was like I was trying to look for weak spots too and I like uh I didn't call anything a
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stupid Funk song no you didn't here's my bottom three For You Still Remains
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silver gun Superman I think your worst pick is army ants my friend you were 0
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for three I'm not surprised listening to break down the album I realized how wrong my picks were my guesses were part
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of this ran I credit to you what I have is is constantly evolving appreciation
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for uh the album structure and the things that are not singles that have to
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exist on an album in order for an album to happen what I do appreciate is how
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things build and how well Stone Tipple Pilots is pretty consistent right now they're going to give us this big epic
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of wandering seven minute song at the end of their album what I really really
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liked about some of these songs that were not singles was that what they have
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been able to do is do a softer song that has a crescendo that has some really
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powerful chorus in it and I was able to find that in almost all of these songs
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was that they built to a thing that they weren't this is a loud song and this is a soft song there's none of those
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they're all both or at the very least have some indicator of them my bottom three in no particular order bottom
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three pretty penny meat plow Big Empty to choose the least favorite out of all
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of them I had to make sure that I wasn't doing the very obvious thing well what was very obvious last time right we did
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core and what did I choose I choose the standout one minute Spoken Word album
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where he talks about wedding is bed right and you told me that their biggest hit single off that album was worse than
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the wet my bed song that's what you told me yes I would listen to wet my bed any day of the week over a plush I would
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take the spoken word wet my bed over no you didn't pick plush you picked creep
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oh yeah that one yeah creep that's right sorry plush is at least more that's more electric more fun yeah creep was absolutely a bore Fest you rank the
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whole thing you go man if I have to hear creep one more time give me wet my bed yeah that's what you okay in this
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situation I'm looking at the very obvious answer and I have to challenge myself on the very obvious answer here
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is pretty penny they tried a new thing I don't think they did it
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great but my least favorite on this album is meatplow whoa that is that is
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the worst of the best on this album I think they kicked it off wrong I told
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you I didn't like the title I told you I thought it was like one of these remnants of the mid90s where things were
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referred to as you're talking about your man meat this and that I it never
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appealed to me at the age of 10 it doesn't appear to appeal to me in my 30s this was sort of the thing that I think
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Scott was supposed to be going against referring to his junk in some euphemistic term and uh I never saw it
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as a sexual thing honestly until your discussion about it everybody that talks about what a meat plow could be puts it
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in those terms I've never had a conversation with anyone about what it would honestly till this till you and I talked well I appreciate being the first
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one that you talk to about these things but I don't think that you should assume that that you're the the first one that I talk to
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about I'm glad you've talked about me plows with other men uh all right PLS any instance that I can well that is
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awesome okay well I appreciate that I appreciate you drew and I appreciate your humor and your wit and your
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research well remember in front of every Silver Lining there's a cloud and we're here to help you find it thanks so much
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Drew take care brother what a beautiful beautiful wrap up to our convo about
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purple I'll talk to you next year probably yeah cheers brother bye [Music]
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