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The Sleuths are real private investigators here to help you find the truth when you need to know. With sometimes shocking, heartwarming, and hilarious stories from the field, they keep it real. Interviews with experts bring you insights on how people leverage P.I.'s in their lives and businesses. When you need to know, call the sleuths — licensed by the North Carolina Department of Public Safety, Jamie hosts this entertaining and informative podcast to educate individuals and business owners.
[00:00:00] Welcome, welcome, welcome to the Sleuth Podcast. We are the podcast where drama is real. Investigations are wild, and every case comes with the twist. I'm your host, Jamie, your favorite private investigator networker, and yes, the one who's always a step ahead 'cause I'm a little bit crazy, but that's okay.
[00:00:54] So today is extra special because my co-host. It's not just any co-host. This is my friend who has been in the trenches with me, seeing it all and has lived to tell the tale. Ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together or tap the heart button for my guest and co-host today, Stacey B. Yes. I love it. That was so exciting.
[00:01:21] Thank you, Joe. How can I follow up with. After that, just be Stacy. What's up everybody? Yeah, I'm Stacy and I am beyond excited to be here. Y'all. I've been behind the scenes helping run the show, but now I'm in front of this giant microphone. But I am ready to bring some of the real and raw and some of the ridiculous from the wild world of private investigations, Jamie.
[00:01:53] But I'm ready. I'm ready to expose some secrets today.
[00:02:05] You're so funny. Thank you, Stacy. Okay. I love it. Thank you very much for that energy this morning. Absolutely. It is really early. It's eight o'clock. Good morning, Joe. Good morning. I brought him a cup of Joe this morning. I appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah, I was like, and I was like, I can bring you tea if you don't want coffee.
[00:02:21] And he's like, black coffee. Ooh, black. Yeah. No fun in there. No, that's very Joey of you. Most of the time when you catch me, I'm drinking tea because I've already had my coffee for the day, but it's early enough that Right. You get a, you get to get a cup. I try to limit it too, otherwise I get shaky. Ooh, that's not good.
[00:02:41] I don't really drink that much caffeine anymore, so I'm one cup is usually okay. I don't even finish the cup almost. I don't know. It's weird. Just put it in my veins right directly. Well, you didn't do coffee this morning. What's your drink of the day? No mine. Is that gingerbread? Oat milk. Chai. Okay.
[00:02:59] How is it? It's delicious. Is it super sweet? Mm, yeah. It's pretty sweet. I wouldn't say super, but it's pretty sweet. One to 10. That's my new thing. It's like an eight. Oh, that's pretty sweet. I don't know. I, they had a pumpkin one. During fall time and that thing was like diabetes in the cup. I kind of like it.
[00:03:21] So, I did my classic medicine ball this morning. They said something about wanting the teas not being there, but it tastes the same to me. So I don't know, I guess it's the lemonade. That's, it doesn't matter, as long as it's got the steam limit all as well. Still's got the medicine in it. Right, right, right, right.
[00:03:36] Okay. So, all right. Stacy. Stacy, I, I introduced her as my friend, right? Yes. But Stacy has been working with us at Blackman Detective Services for about eight months. Mm-hmm. Right. Case managing. Yep. How's that been? I love it.
[00:03:57] Lemme cue up the intro. Lemme cue up the outro music. That's great. That's it. Done. Tell me about it. What is a case manager? What do you, what have you been doing? Tell me. I do the unsexy work, like I do the paperwork, right? I check the eye, well do my best to check the eyes and. Dot the i's, sorry, uhoh.
[00:04:19] Cross the T's. That's okay. We're all a little dyslexic around here occasionally. Okay. So, you've been with us for eight months. Mm-hmm. Describe your first day on the job. Ah, what is this now? What does that mean for the rest of the world that doesn't know? There's a lot that goes into it that I hadn't anticipated.
[00:04:45] It's a, a lot of intuition as well as guidelines and following. A certain order. So that was eye opening. I thought you just go out there and look around and write what you see and hopefully you see what you wanna see or what, what your goal is and, and call it a day. But there's, there's a lot more to it.
[00:05:09] it took me a bit to get used to that, but What do you, have you found, like some part of it that you enjoy and like, love about it? I, I love helping the client feel a peace of mind. 'cause most of the time they come in having an inkling or a, a feeling or, or a hunch, and we help confirm that or, or not.
[00:05:32] But I, I like to help them get that resolve. Have you had a favorite client? Of course, you can't tell their name. Mm. Or how about a standout client? I always try to tell people like, you know, when we're doing these cases you could work for a PI for three years, four years, and still have new situations all the time.
[00:05:53] So did you feel like there was like a lot of repetitive cases I feel like each case is a little different. They all have very similar parts to it, but they're all different, different people. Their personalities. There's, well, yeah. Right. Without different people, what would we do? Well, it would get kinda boring and you'd have to be really dynamic for us to be investigating you that much.
[00:06:21] Right? were you shocked at the cost of PI work? not, not really, because I, I understand that there's a lot that now I understand there's a lot that goes into it, but I, I felt like it was pretty much what I had expected. Okay. All right.
[00:06:37] Sometimes I feel like, you know, clients are a little unreasonable when it comes to their expectations. Either they feel like we're Garcia from CSI, right? Right. And we can like, figure out where all your children are enrolled and mm-hmm. Who their teachers are. Can't do that. Even though there's a lot of information online still about teachers, which I think is kind of weird.
[00:06:58] Do you look into your kids' school? Random? I haven't, no. Should I, I dunno. Does that make me bad? I said, the first time I thought about it was right then, and I'm like, oh dear. Should I have done that? Well, you know, it's interesting because like when you're in the school system, I know that they do like background checks
[00:07:16] my question is, how often do they do the background check? Not often enough. Like if you're a teacher for like 20 years, have you had one background check and that's it? Probably. Yep. So I don't know. It's always nice to see the people that are one to have a face to the name. 'cause sometimes, you know, our kids talk about.
[00:07:33] Teachers and people and you know, I don't know, I'm crazy. I just kind of go online. Anytime James has ever been involved in anything, I always go online and see what's there. If they had internet when I was with my kids, the interwebs, then I would've done the same thing. Yeah. Okay. Random thought. Oh, and first, I'm sorry, let me throw out there.
[00:07:51] We miss Brooke. Yes, everybody say hello to Brooke so much. She's off being a doctor today. She's off getting out one of her many skills and jobs and all the things that she's doing. Oh, she's got so many. She's her and what are the cat's names? Hugo and Holly. Hugo and Holly. Yes, they're all safe and hopefully she won't have to go to Maine, but we hope not.
[00:08:11] We hope. Keep her here. Hey, Brooke. Say child, Brooke, you're, you're much better at this than me. You're very good at this, Brooke. And so is Stacy. All right. So, weird thing. Okay. So we're gonna, you know, imagine. That you could teleport. Oh, I love it. Okay.
[00:08:25] Teleport back in time and we're gonna meet a detective from a classic mystery novel. Mm mm Who would it be and what? Case, would you have them solved? Nancy Drew? Oh, I love Nancy. Yeah, she's the og. Okay. Do you have a favorite case? What would you have her solve? I don't know. Well, I would, would are read Murder domestic.
[00:08:48] Hmm. Ooh, what did, did she have a niche? Do you know? I don't think so. Okay. She kind of did it all. Okay. What would you have her do? I would say a missing person. Okay. Like a missing adult child that doesn't wanna talk to their parents anymore. Oh my God. Those are the saddest cases.
[00:09:11] Okay, so we just got another one of these. And we've kind of talked about this before on the show. These cases were either grown children, well they, we say grown 'cause they're over 18. Right. But usually they're not like 40. No. Right. And they basically just taken off. Don't wanna talk to their parents.
[00:09:30] They sometimes take money from them or sometimes they don't and they cut phones off and they cut off all the access and then they basically have like run away from their parents, which I think is cruel and so cruel. Heartbreaking. 'cause as a parent, I, I've had that for a time and it was rough. Okay, so tell us about you.
[00:09:52] Where'd you come from? How did we meet? Well, we met at a networking event. Love networking. I do too. Okay. I met you and your hubs. Yep. And he's an electrician. Correct. And y'all are from Utah? Utah. Utah. Mm-hmm. Utah with a w No, there's no, so what's special about Utah? Where is it? U Utah. That's a stupid, that's a bad question, but I really, it's it, we're West Coast.
[00:10:18] I'm right. So Midwest coast and Utah is known for their mountains, for their skiing and for the latter day saints. Okay. Are you a latter day saint? I used to be. Were you? Mm-hmm. I didn't know that about you. Okay. Yeah. Why not anymore? Is that personal? No, you can ask that. It's a great question. I started thinking for myself and decided that all the things were just a little too much.
[00:10:49] They didn't make sense to me. Okay. And, and I saw there was so much more truth out there in the world. So I am at the, at the cost of maybe some of my family's expectations and hopes for me. I. Chose a different path, but you're fricking fantastic. Oh, well thank you. So, I mean, bye. Right. And there's a lot of beautiful people that still believe in, in that.
[00:11:21] Religion and I love them and it's just not for me. Right. And that's fine. So, okay. So I also, and I'm like, we are just jumping all over the board today, but that is okay. I can catch up. I can keep up. Okay. So, oh, I do want to so we were talking about networking, right? Mm-hmm. And one of the things that I really enjoy about networking is finding my people that I can either.
[00:11:47] One, refer others to that need things. Mm-hmm. Or I know that I have like a trusted source to get whatever, you know, situation I have taken care of and I'm comfortable with that. So I have been doing this little exciting new venture and it's called Join Jamie. Ooh, I like that. And I think we, we might have talked about it last time on the show, I'm not quite sure.
[00:12:12] But so it's gonna be, it's all about spotlighting local businesses and incredible ways that they're shaping, you know, our community and our our area. So let's go back to being a case manager. So, what are some of the responsibilities that you've had as a case manager? , well, we make sure that all of the information that we give to our field investigators is correct.
[00:12:39] Very important. What happens if it's not correct? Well, your field investigator is watching a house for a couple of hours that is not the correct house and getting nowhere video of random people that. Probably need to be investigated, but we don't know why.
[00:13:03] So, you know, it's, it's interesting, you know, a lot of private investigators normally start off being law enforcement. Yes. Right, right. So they kind of have a different training, I guess. Mm-hmm. When it comes to certain things. One thing that I do love about the investigative field is that you don't have to be law enforcement.
[00:13:24] Yeah. It's sometimes nice to be law enforcement, but they don't ment law enforcement, but, but sometimes they, you know, give off cop vibe. And that is kind of telling, you know, if they don't really like to blend well and you know, there's just a lot of, I guess, policies and procedures that maybe they're used to following when we kind of.
[00:13:46] I, you know, I didn't have law enforcement experience, so I kind of just hung out with Allison until I kind of understood how the, you know, the process worked. And then I kind of inserted myself where I was comfortable, you know, and then that's kind of how I grew from there. 'cause I was always like, I didn't want to take on too much and then be overwhelmed or, you know, mess up something and you know, it just.
[00:14:10] It's important to be on top of these, but one thing I like about Black Detective Services is that we've always given, I would just say younger people, 'cause it's usually younger people. Yeah. But we give opportunity opportunities for people to, you know, realize if they have a passion in this field and that they, you know, want to be a good investigator if they want to just, I mean, some people think they're gonna be a good investigator and they get out there and they're not good.
[00:14:33] Right. And I'm mainly talking about field people. Right. You know, it's, it's difficult to do mobile surveillance and. Stay covert and not wreck your car and mm-hmm. It, it really is. Do all of the things. Yeah. So, details matter yes, they do. Some things can be overlooked and it can really make or break your case.
[00:14:53] Absolutely. Very important. Yeah. So, so you have to manage that and you, you also need to make sure everybody's where they need to be and make sure that they. Follow up and they communicate with you. So you in essence manage all the communications, right? You manage the client, communicating with the client, communicating with your, it's a lot of talking.
[00:15:14] Yeah, that's It is. And Stacey is a fantastic emailer. I have learned from her. I, I can email much better than I can talk. 'cause it gives me time to think and then re restructure my thoughts. Just flying by the seat at this point doesn't matter. It's okay. Oh, that's, that's how I live my life. I'm like a little leaf blown in the wind.
[00:15:34] But you know, I think that it makes excellent for domestic cases because they're always changing. Oh yeah. Right. So if you aren't one that can, I always call it tuck and roll love. But love if you're one that can't. Adjust as the situation changes. This is probably not necessarily the field for you. Some people also like type A, that they have to have things a certain way, and as soon as something changes, it's like, wait a minute, I need 20 minutes to regroup.
[00:15:59] And that's just not have you ever thought about being a Pi Joe? How do you think you'd be? How do you think you'd be? I don't know. I have not thought about it. Have you ever paid attention to anything like since, I mean, been on podcast for a while, but have you ever like come across a situation where you'd been like, I would've been a great pi, I.
[00:16:17] I could have taken care of that. I don't know. I think we all think of ourselves as we could do anything. Huh? Yeah, I'd probably nail that. Yeah. I'd probably be great at it, but I don't know. Do you, do you pay attention? Are you one of those people that pays attention to surroundings? Yeah, I think. Or are you like in tunnel vision?
[00:16:33] I think I do. I don't think it's like as good as some of those TV shows. Like I remember that show like Psych that was on USA. Mm-hmm. You know, shows like that where it's like magic Detective guy and he's like, close your eyes, how many hats are in the room? And you know, like that kind of, oh wow, that's, I don't, I can't do that.
[00:16:48] I am a little OCDI remember, like when I lived in Wal, when I lived in Mississippi, the Walmart had 36 parking lights. I don't know why I counted them, but I did. See, there you go. Were you sitting? I thought you were sitting there for a long time. Or listen, man, small town. Walmart was the only thing that we could do.
[00:17:05] Really. It was the hub. That was the, the, the be all of where we lived in co Mississippi. That's, that's how it was for my kids too. In, in, utah, Hebrew City. There's just a Walmart there, and they would go and hang out. There's a large collection of US towns where the coolest thing to do is Walmart. Okay?
[00:17:23] That's when you know you've arrived. You got your own Walmart, you. Oh, okay. Well, that, that skill would come in handy because you do need to be paying attention, maybe not to the light. Yes. So I think the answer would be no. I pay attention to the wrong things. It's like, did you see the man cheating on his spouse?
[00:17:40] No. But there was this gecko and he was like hanging out on the curb and he almost got stepped on by a lady wearing a purple jacket. Not important. I'd say she was 40, 45. Probably worked as a millworker based on the condition of her fingernails. Like, oh, but you completely missed the point. Yes, but the man was being killed right there to the right.
[00:18:03] Oh, I didn't see that. No I can't, can't testify to that at all. I feel like, I feel like that's potential. That's very optimistic. You know what? Yeah, there are cases where it's very important to count how many and what, right? Right. So sometimes we work those cases where like there's been a fire or something and they have to go in there and document all the things.
[00:18:24] So knowing how many lights are still visible and working would be very important. If the Walmart burned, it's not important. You don't need the humor. Me, it's fine.
[00:18:33] Ah, that's great. Okay. Okay. So I am going to shout out. A friend and a fellow podcast show of Joe's Pick 'em pros. Um, Oh, you know those guys. Those guys are great. Oh my gosh. Derek is awesome. Diego is awesome. So it's a it's a sports fan show, so, they're on, what are they? On YouTube. And YouTube primarily is where they live, but I think they're, I don't know where else they publish it, but I think YouTube's where they put their energy.
[00:19:04] So sometimes they do a live show. I think they do a live show once a month. And they do game picks, fantasy football tips and Diego and like Derek, you know, have this dad, energy son, dad Energy, and they, you know, opinions and they kind of go back and forth on things. But it's, it's a great show. Like I said, great energy.
[00:19:23] They do the live show at Kings in North Hills, which is right across the street. So, you know, if you're looking for fun sports banter, that show's Got it covered. So pick and press. Shout out, you've listened because that's how they end the show. Yes, pick and I love it. Okay. It got me into sports betting that show.
[00:19:43] Right. Because I heard in one of their early episodes that were they recorded here with me. They've been doing it for a long time before they started recording here. That Diego, the sun has gotten all 16 games right before, or all 13 games, depending on the week. Yes. So I started, every time they record a show here, I put a dollar stupid parlay bet on every team from him.
[00:20:03] Okay. So if he ever hits again, I might like Yeah. Money. Nice. It's only a buck. And he's on it too. It's kind of fun. Yeah. They were real close last week and I forgot to bet. And I was like, figures, because they were like, it was like close to the end and every game was like exactly where they, the one day I forgot to put my dollar in.
[00:20:23] Oh. I love that. Derrick's a Cowboys fan. So I think even though our team sucks right now, go there. Like the Dallas Cowboys girl. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I'm, I'm embarrassed this year Dak is out here having babies and getting married and losing. Losing. That's okay. He's distracted. He's, he's very distracted.
[00:20:45] He would not make a good field investigator. He would not make a good, he is, he is all over the place, slinging things everywhere. Not in the, not in the end zone picks, and now he's hurt. Oh, so he's done for the year. Just worthless, worthless back him. Upset. Okay, I'm moving on. All right, so, I figured we have a little baby story time today.
[00:21:08] We could talk about a fun case. Okay. And I don't know random thoughts. So stealing time, right? Ooh, we had a, yes, we've, we've had a case where we were hired by the. Business owner. Mm-hmm. And you know, they had, I don't know, I think it was some kind of like spring party or something. And ever since this party, two of the employees had, you know, a block of time on their calendars that was kind of really unaccounted for working remotely.
[00:21:41] Working remotely. And so, you know. Employees expect for you to be doing the right thing and to be doing your job and to, you know, if you're supposed to be in a work meeting, there should be some proof of this work meeting, right? Absolutely. And so these things weren't happening, so, the concern was, you know, is there a romantic relationship going on here?
[00:22:04] Mm-hmm. Are you guys. Feeding the homeless together. Oh, making the world a better place. Making the world a better place. Or you know, are you just fucking off and taking my money, having a freebie on me? Right. So we did surveillance probably maybe like a total of like four weeks. Just because there was a holiday in between and you know, that kind of threw things off and it wasn't quite the same.
[00:22:33] Right. Darn those holidays mess everything up. Right. But never could really figure out what was going on. They did a lot of hanging out together. They were together. Right. But they weren't affectionate. They were just good buddies. Do you believe that? Mm. Something about that case kind of makes me feel
[00:22:55] you know, you can have these work relationships and they are inappropriate, but they're not physical. Yeah. Right. So how, you know, how do you prove that? Can't really prove that. Oh, you mean, do you mean like the work wife and the work husband thing? Right. Yeah. Right. But you know, I've never had a work husband.
[00:23:15] I haven't either. I can imagine though that would be, especially if you work long hours, you know, if you have those jobs where you work, you know, 10, 12 hours, those people that work those long shifts and you have somebody that you've been, and sometimes they work together for like 20 years. Yep. You know, I wonder how many situations where they've like left their wife and or left their partner.
[00:23:34] That's what happened to me. What? Yep. Okay. Tell me My first husband, we were high school sweethearts. Oh, and he started in Utah. Yep. In Utah. At the Walmart. Yeah. We knew Walmart. Walmart wasn't a thing back then. We had the K-Mart. Oh, I loved K-Mart. I grew up in K-Mart. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Tell me about this man.
[00:24:00] But he had a relationship with the woman that he worked side by side with. They were working at a screen printing marketing company. Mm-hmm. She was the embroider, he was the screen printer. Mm-hmm. And he had to, they had to work closely. Yes, they did. And they were spending a lot of overtime together.
[00:24:19] I mean, overtime, uhoh. Yeah. And. So I ended up doing, okay, wait, let me add, let me play case manager. Okay. So what were the things that were happening that were making you feel like something was off? Well, he was spending a lot more time at work and had lots of excuses on why he had to be there. Was it always a after hours thing, Uhhuh, or was it all the time?
[00:24:46] It wasn't all the time, but it was pretty regular. It. Okay. I mean, it, it's hard for me to remember exactly how it was before I found out, because after I found out, of course, everything's a blur. Everything made sense, right? But, but yes, it makes sense at that point. 'cause then you're like, oh, I didn't know that.
[00:25:06] And now I, I had a feeling about it. Right? Because I think you're, you're very keen on your partner and, and sensitive to when they're starting to behave differently, right? And I was noticing that, but I was making all kinds of excuses for it, thinking it was just stress or, or he was actually working and, and, and just questioning and doubting myself.
[00:25:31] So it helped when I figured out that that's really wasn't what was going on. It helped me just have a little more faith in my intuition, so, right. I see that a lot with our clients too. They have these intuitions about their partner. And most of the time those are accurate. So you've gotta follow that, right?
[00:25:49] Yeah. So I always tell clients, listen to their gut. Absolute. I'm like, something's up. Absolute. Either even. And it doesn't necessarily have to be cheating. No. But, but there's something happening in the relationship that's not jiving. Right. You know, and the communication has broken down. Okay. So how did you find out?
[00:26:03] Well, I did my own field investigation. You were a PI before you were a pi. That's exactly, yes. Okay. So tell me, how'd it go? It went really well. Okay. Well, okay. It, it went well only because I, the first try I got, I got the information the first time. Yeah. How, okay. Tell me, tell me, well, what did you do?
[00:26:24] What I, what I had done is, it took me a long time to get this point, but I'm like, something is going on. Mm-hmm. We were separated. He was living at the house by himself. Okay, so you had actually separated? Yes. Okay. Yeah, because he, we were working on the marriage, but you know, he, he needed to have time for himself.
[00:26:41] Red fucking flag. I know. I'm sorry. I understand that now, but back then I was very naive. Okay. I have so many questions. Okay. So y'all separated? Yep. So we separate and things are just, where were you staying? I was staying with my mom and my two children. Okay. He was at the marital home. Yep. Chilling.
[00:26:59] Chilling. Okay. And then what happened? Living it up? Well, I, I just, he wasn't working on the marriage and our bank account funds were just dwindling to nothing. And they were all withdrawals. They weren't like went, got food here or gas here. So that was a red flag for me. And I just felt like everything was off.
[00:27:20] It wasn't going in a direction that was. For us to be together. So, I decided that we were going to follow him. We meaning myself and my dad. And my dad talked me out of following him. 'cause he is like, no, you're a little too emotional about this. Which was true. It was very, very wise of him. But we decided that he would follow him and then he would report back to me.
[00:27:46] Okay. Which he did. And he called me back then he had to find like a. I think he had to borrow somebody's work phone, or he had to find a payphone and called me on the landline. Okay. And was like, Hey, so I got some information for you. And I was like, this is great. Okay. What's what? What's going on? He says, do you know anyone who's blonde?
[00:28:08] Like a woman that's blonde besides me? No, I was dark haired at the time. Okay. So I was like, no, I don't know a blonde woman. He's like, well. One just got into his truck and they took off. And I was like, what? Because I really didn't believe that he was cheating on me. I, I mean, the red flags were flying Yeah.
[00:28:29] But right in my face, but I just couldn't see it. Right. Yeah. And it, that right there just got me fired up. Okay. I was like, oh, hell no. You come pick me up right now. We are going, I'm going with you. He was trying to talk me out of it, but I had to do it. Okay. And I'm so glad I did because I got to see from my own eyes, 'cause I had to, 'cause I was that kind of dense.
[00:28:54] I had to see it for myself. Well, it's, it's hard, it hard believe, right? You're so emotional about it. You feel so betrayed and lost and so many different emotions and it's overwhelming. He come to pick you up. Yeah, he came pick me up. And then where y'all go? He's like, try and talk. Talk me down. How did y'all know where he was after they left?
[00:29:12] Or he just, y'all just went back to the house? Well see they took off. He, so he left his, our house, which is why he was able, my dad was able to follow him and went to the Albertsons, which is like a Harris Teeter, I guess kind of Okay. Grocery store. And they met there in the parking lot. She got in his truck and they took off and he tried to follow him, but God.
[00:29:31] Right. You know, because that happens. It happens. Traffic and, yeah. All sorts of things. So, so y'all went back to the car and waited at the car for him to drop her off? Well, no. Oh. Oh my God. Tell me. I'm like, let's go to the house. Let's see if they're at my house. So after he comes, picks me up, my dad comes, picks me up, picks me up, and take me to my house, and my husband's truck is in the driveway.
[00:29:55] I am like, oh yeah, they're here. Oh my God. They're here and I, I'm like fired up. Right. I'm blazing to get in that door. Yeah. And quietly I open the door and I'm trying to be really quiet because all the lights are out. Right. So I'm like, okay, what's this nighttime, daytime? This was night. It's about nine o'clock at night.
[00:30:16] Oh, so they thought on Friday they were getting ready to have a rendezvous at your house? Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, all night long. Yes. I thought this was maybe like, I was hoping it was just like a lunch thing. No, no. This was a night thing. So you creep in the house? I creep in the house, but dang, my, my door just made too much noise.
[00:30:33] They heard me. 'cause they were in the living room and it was like, you walk in and it's like a little gathering room and then there was the living room right there. Okay. So then what happened? I heard 'em like shuffling and like freaking out, like. Moving around and I turn on the lights and the, the couch has been pretty much m into like a little bed and my husband's shirts off and he's like trying to figure out what just happened and she takes off down.
[00:31:02] I. And runs down the hall into one of my children's bedrooms and just slams the door. So, so what did you do? I ran after her because of course this bitch is being in my house. Oh, right. Sorry. I, I was like, oh, I don't, I need to know who this is. And as soon as I, she was, she was holding the door closed.
[00:31:26] Right. So I couldn't open it, but I just. Pushed my way and I just busted that door open. And there was, the girl he works with, we had just gone to her wedding earlier that year, so we were, we were hanging out and friends kind of, so at the Christmas party, all sorts of things. Right. And so was she always, was she nice to you?
[00:31:49] Was she always speaking to you? Yeah, she would. Yeah. She was nice and. I never got any weird vibes at all, which is why this was so shocking. Shocking, right. Like, she's just got married and he's married to me, and you know me. And yet you're here in my house on my couch with my husband with no shirt on.
[00:32:11] Well, yeah. After you've been, I don't think so. Dropped off. How did she get out there? Oh, okay. So this is the funnest part of all right, because he, she gotta walk. Oh, I, I, she was terrified, right? Because I was Did you beat her? Well, I, I wanted to, but No. Did you strike her? I, I pushed her and I said, get out of my house.
[00:32:30] Jealous of, I'm like, I like, I know that it's illegal to lay hands on people, but I feel like certain times justify. I'm like, yeah, and like statute of limitations or something. Like it's not murder or anything. She's alive. No, I just pushed her. She's fine. And she got outta my house. She took off with no shoes on.
[00:32:50] And walked to her, walked to her car at the grocery store, which is about a mile away. Okay. That's so what did the husband say? Injustice? Yeah. He said we were just hanging out watching tv. I spilled ice cream on my shirt. That's why it's off
[00:33:08] that that's why she ran. Exactly. Because you know, watching TV together is something that you need to be shamed of. Well in my, in my house, right? Yeah. With the lights off. Yeah. You know, with, with a little blanket and pillow and stuff, you know, getting comfortable. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. So those two ended up getting married and having children and they're still together, Stacey.
[00:33:38] It's true. What? I know it's. It's the weirdest experience. She must have walked back when? No. Okay. He went and picked her up and they took off, but I kicked him out of the house the next day, so it was, wait a minute, hold on. Sweet victory. He left the house and went and back and picked the girl up. Mm-hmm.
[00:34:03] How did you know that? I mean, besides the fact he left because. We were in the parking lot afterwards and watched it. See, I was a pretty good investigator. Like I'm still on the job. Okay. I need to see. Okay, so you left the house, you know, after the whole shebang and then he leaves and goes to get her, right?
[00:34:26] Yes. What a dog. I know. Dirty dog. Oh, it was like girl. You are better off without this man. 'cause he obviously doesn't care about you or your relationship, but except for they're together now with children. Yeah. I have so many more questions. I mean, not for you, but for them. The investigators coming, coming.
[00:34:48] Yes. No, I mean, I'm like, are they okay with that? I wonder if they've cheated on each other. I don't think they, I don't think they're okay. I really don't. Okay. You can't. You can be. How can you? Create an a relationship by betrayal and then not feel like you could redo that or Right. Right. You don't have the potential of doing that and people live in that craziness.
[00:35:12] People will stay with that. Mm-hmm. Just because, you know, I don't know if it's, I don't know why they, I don't know either. How would you be there comfortable, just addicted to the crazy you put, you put so much effort into it, you can't let Right. Let it go. Yeah. Yeah. And then after you produce children, yeah.
[00:35:29] My God. Yeah. That's, wow. Okay. So you literally sound like one of the clients. Exactly. Which is why I was so drawn to this because it helped me get out of a bad situation. Yeah. Because I. Was really not ready to face the reality of things. So it helped me with that. And then also I just feel like people try to get as much as they can out of the situation, and you have to have some balance, some checks.
[00:35:57] Right, right. And, and so that's what we do. We just, in my opinion, is it's just. Showing what's, what's actually there may be hidden a little bit and bringing it to, to light because for whatever reason, there's shame there or there's this there's something that's going on there that they want to try and hide, but Right.
[00:36:17] You shouldn't because the truth really does set you free. Right. And us bringing that to our clients is. It's like the cherry on top for me. Right. And I, and you know, and I, well, I was telling us on the meeting the other day, you know, that we don't always get, you know, back pats and high fives for our work.
[00:36:37] A lot of times we don't even hear what happens. Mm-hmm. You know, we, we work one portion of the case and you know, unless it comes back or they forgive the person and try again or whatever. Usually we don't even know what happens unless they. You know, for some reason we're brought into court. Yep. But, so, wow.
[00:36:58] Okay. Are you looking for the perfect holiday gift? Yes. Check out Micah's, Sweetss and Treats right here in Raleigh, home of the National award-winning Carolina Bliss Cookie. These treats are super good. Yes. I am trying to figure out how she makes them so fantastic. Except for they have all real sugar in them.
[00:37:18] Absolutely. So if you're gifting or indulging, she's got cookies, cakes, hot cocoa bombs. Our must try. We did the hot coco cocoa bombs one year and they were fantastic. Lot of chocolate. I say usually those are too sweet for me. I can't do those. But I think 'cause they were like in real milk, it was okay.
[00:37:36] It wasn't as like strong, I guess. I don't know. So if you want to try Micah Sweets and Treats, I'm shouting out my girl. I love Micah. Get your holiday treats before they're gone. She's on Facebook, Instagram, micah sweets and treats.com. Okay. So my friend Stacy, has a venture of her own that I'm super excited to share with the team. Oh. I'm gonna let you talk about it. But we were talking about dirty dogs and I was thinking about your dirty soda. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's not, it's not. It's like the opposite of a dirty dog, right? Oh, because this brings refreshing joy.
[00:38:13] Yes. So tell me if your, tell me about your venture. Well, there's this thing that's been around for a while, but it's starting to gain popularity mainstream. Okay. And it's called the dirty soda. Okay. And it's called Dirty because, well, it was kind of a Mormon thing. And in the Mormon culture we like to have a little innuendo.
[00:38:40] And the reason why, and this is my own opinion of course, but the reason why it's called Dirty is 'cause you add a little cream in it.
[00:38:49] My mind went left, right. Inappropriate thoughts. You like Mormon and Cream And I was like, oh really? Yeah. Oh my God, that's so gross. Because it's dirt that's dirty, like, oh, it's, it's creamy. Okay, so have you heard of these dirty sodas? I actually just heard about them the other day. I went out to get a burger of bad Daddy's with the family.
[00:39:16] Okay. And dirty sodas were on the menu. You could get like Dr. Pepper with cream in it. And some of them were alcoholic, like some of them were like a soda version of an old fashioned. Ooh, that would be delicious. Can I get that? Yes. Can you do that? Can you do that? Just pour a creamer packet in your next home.
[00:39:34] I need it to be fancied up. Okay. So tell me, tell me more. So, what's the business name? Physiology. Physiology. Is I-F-I-Z-Z? Mm-hmm. Okay. All right. Not like PHY because you are like a alchemy of soda. Okay. Right, yeah. The little. Syrup in there, and you can create all kinds of flavors with just soda. Okay, so it started out, my love started out with Italian sodas.
[00:40:04] Those were made with sparkling water or club soda, and I loved those as a kid. And then these dirty sodas came in, in Utah in the early, let's see, 20 12, 20 10, somewhere around there. Anyway, okay. And I was hooked. And they just bring a little like happiness to at least to my day and to people I talk to.
[00:40:26] Okay. And I wanna be able to bring that to the East coast. 'cause there's not much I, I mean, they're grown in popularity obviously. Now with this at bad daddies, you know, bad daddies. And there's a, there's a soda box chain or franchise that is got. A lot of shops around, I'm trying to think. They think they just had like six or seven.
[00:40:49] So they're gaining popularity here. And I wanna bring that my own mix too. To the east coast here, so, okay. How are we gonna do this? Are you gonna have like a store? Are you gonna have like a No, I'm going to have a f It it, they call it a food truck, but it's not Okay. Gonna have food, right? It's gonna just be a beverage truck.
[00:41:09] A beverage truck. Okay. So you're gonna be in the local area and you're gonna have a cool, fun like fizzy truck. Yep. N probably start off with being at vendor events. Okay. Because we've gone to quite a few of them here. We've been in the area for eight months now. We've gone to a few and we've noticed that there's a lot of great food options, but they, when you wanna drink, they just have a can of soda or a bottle of water.
[00:41:34] So we're gonna start there. So people can get that experience and then go from there. Okay. So be like a popup shop kind of. Okay. I like it. I like it. So, okay. We get to follow Stacy and physiology. Yeah. And her new venture. So I'm super excited. We will stay connected on all the things. Absolutely. I'll be at all the networking things, Joe.
[00:41:55] If you's know someplace that needs some sodas. Yeah, sign her up. Yeah, I'm happy to do it. When are you gonna have the food truck lash? No food. Yeah. When's your what do you call it, your launch beverage truck? The, the anticipated launch is April, 2025. Yes. Okay. I'm excited. Are you gonna put any booze in there, or is that a whole different set of licenses?
[00:42:18] You know, I'll do that for a private party, but that is a total different license. So is it, is it, mm-hmm. Yeah, north Carolina's strict on that stuff. I know. I'm like, good gracious. Well, they have SIP and Stroll. Probably not as strict as Utah. Oh, I was gonna say, you know, you don't know strict until you've been in Utah.
[00:42:36] Okay. So I didn't know I was watching, what's the show of the girls? It's a bunch of women and they were all. Like they ended up in like a orgy. Oh. And they're secret from one of those, you know, I'm talking about Mormon wives. Okay. Yeah. That's it. Mm-hmm. They don't, what is the deal with the, they just don't drink alcohol.
[00:42:54] So they're the sodas are the thing. Right. And, and co. They're, we're not. So there's this thing called the word of wisdom, which restricts you when if you follow it, it restricts you from drinking tea, coffee. And alcohol, but you can have as much Mountain Dew and monster as your heart, heart desires.
[00:43:15] Right? That's so it's not caffeine really. It's, no, it's coffee. That's. The Devil's Juice, right? Well, they say it's, they say it's caffeine, but you, you can have hot chocolate, but that has caffeine in it. Yeah. I've heard from people that live in that area, they're like, good luck buying booze, but sodas all over.
[00:43:31] Exactly. Yeah. That is so crazy. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yep. Yeah, that's that soda kill you just as, I mean, if you, you know when, if you can pour Toda on the battery and the acid comes off, imagine what is happening in your stomach. Coffee's literally a bean that's ground up and put water in it. Soda's got like 4,000 fake chemicals in it.
[00:43:51] Now what are you doing to me now? 4,000 fake delicious chemicals. But yours is different, right? Because it's real sugar and it's like. I am going to do all of my own cream for, for that purpose. 'cause the seed oils are right in creamer and I Those are terrible for you, so, I'll make it as healthy as I can.
[00:44:13] Yeah. But real sugar, there's nothing wrong with sugar. You just have sugar in moderation. Yeah, I think if you're gonna have a dessert like you were, I feel like people are being all apologetic for it. Like if, if I'm gonna go somewhere and get a cookie, for example, you should advertise. I use real sugar and butter.
[00:44:28] 'cause I'm like, oh, it's gonna taste good. Right. Like a real cookie. Oh, that's what I want. Yeah. Those Carolina Bliss cookies. Yeah. I'm gonna have to have her when she comes. Did you have one at the event? Yes. It was so delicious. They're like toffee and chocolate and like a little sea salt sprinkle on top or something.
[00:44:44] Real sugar. But my point is like with the soda drink, like if you're gonna have it, have it, don't halfway this stuff. Right, right, right. We're not under, we're not drinking something like a, I'm not going and order an old fashioned 'cause I'm trying to be healthy, you know, it's like I know what I'm doing, I've got this, I can take care of it.
[00:45:02] Okay. Every once in a while it's fine. Okay. So. I got one more shout out for my day for today. Woo. Woo woo. So, okay, Stacy, question. Mm-hmm. If you had an emergency that happened right in front of you, somebody fell out, would you know what to do? Somebody fell out. Yeah. Like somebody passed out, like, you know, well, hopefully I'd be able to be certified in CPR, so I could give them Are you certified in CPR?
[00:45:30] No, but I plan to, because as a business owner. I feel like it's my responsibility to be able to take care of my clients, my customers. Andrew, do you hear in the field? This lady right here, I'm sure my friend Andrew has a CPR business called Buddy to Buddy CPR training. And it's about being the help, right?
[00:45:52] Yes. We were actually going over something yesterday and realized that there is, um.
[00:45:59] Very I guess a big disconnect on like, who people would give CPR to what girl? These people out here are crazy. Every time I, we were researching it was something, doctors something, one of these doctor sites. That's not good. It's one of these things where I was reading It's gotta be True. Um. And we'll skip over that anyways.
[00:46:22] People don't know either one. How to do CPR, how to give CPR aren't comfortable, you know, providing CPR to somebody. And so it's very important for you to. Maybe be certified in that for yourself, your family, and your business. Absolutely. So, he is going to be, and this is another new venture in the world but he's gonna be offering in-person CPR classes.
[00:46:45] In the Raleigh area, businesses, family, parents, teams, you know, he's local to here. He cares about the community and, you know, wants to make sure that you are ready for the unexpected. So, you know, having that lifesaving power in your hands is it's a big deal. It, you know. Brings confidence. You feel prepared and you're not like standing around videoing people when they fall out.
[00:47:11] And you can actually maybe do something about it and try to help somebody imagine that. Our world is crazy, you know, people don't want to help you if they don't know you. Oh my gosh. And we just have a lack of. Care for the human race. That's at this point, that's so, that's so sad. Thank you. Now, so, buddy to buddy CPR, get your CPR training, you know, absolutely.
[00:47:37] Make sure that they have gone through the correct classes, right? Not just some random person who says they can teach CPR. There's like rules and regulations and you have to have correct equipment and, you know, you wanna make sure that you're learning it properly. Like the difference in, you know, your hand pressure for an infant versus Right.
[00:47:56] An adult and like how many compressions to breath kind of thing. So I do think there's like. Like a random 30 to two or something. Like, I'm hoping Joe's over there. I'm, I'm 30 to two. What? 30 compressions to two breaths. Oh. I didn't know if it was from the office that you do it to the to the beat of staying alive.
[00:48:14] Alive. Staying alive. That's what I was just gonna say too. That's the pace. I got that unlocked. I'm just up there doing, I have no idea what I'm doing. Just singing on top of somebody that's, I saw it on tv. It's okay. That is what we don't want. I need a professional. You can entertain and save a life at the same time.
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[00:49:08] And I'm excited for Januarys. It's already done. So that's fun. Cute little ho ho holiday. Story about Santa not being a good boy this year. What? Yeah, it's a very cute story. So we do not live in the real world. The right world here. This is, Hey, dirt dirty Santas. No. Stacey, thank you for coming and checking us out today. Thank you for having me. Yeah. What do you feel about the podcast room? I love this room. Wasn't it great? Yes. Did you enjoy your your time with us here?
[00:49:43] I have to say I was Were you worried? No, I just were you worried? I'm not worried. I'm just shy. Okay. I think you did a wonderful job. All right. So thanks for listening. That's wrap for today's episode. This will probably it for the end of 2024. Woo. So we've got so much more coming in 25 and you don't wanna miss it.
[00:50:06] So no new adventures, exciting collabs. The sleuth podcast will be right here, bringing you stories, tips, and insights to stay ahead. Thanks for being a part of the journey. We'll see you next time. Thank you. Physiology. Dirty soda. It's soda, but make it sexy. Hey, you. Yes, you the one sipping that boring old can of plane soda.
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