Ep. 10: I Burn For... Not You...

Ever wondered how Bridgerton’s juicy gossip ties into feminism in the church? Wonder no more! Join us for a laugh-filled mini episode where we chat about the Queen, dinosaurs, and the church’s role in championing women’s rights. It’s all about mixing Regency romance with modern faith, and it’s a conversation we can't wait to share with you!

What is We Are More: Sisters Talk Faith & Feminism?

We are Alyssa and Bri, two sisters who believe God wants more for women than we've been taught. Join us as we dive into the intersection of faith and feminism, learning together as we go.

Welcome to the We Are More podcast.

My name is Alyssa.

And my name is Bri.

We are two sisters passionate about all things faith and feminism.

We believe that Jesus trusted, respected, and encouraged women to teach and preach His

word.

And apparently that's controversial.

Get comfy.

Hello!

Hello!

Welcome to episode 10.

The second mini episode we've done, I guess.

We're a whole decade old.

A whole decade.

That's what 10 means, right?

Do you want to know what's really sad?

This year I will have been out of college for a decade.

That is sad.

That is so sad.

I am also old.

I've been out of college for 75,000 years.

Wow, that's a lot.

I knew the dinosaurs.

Oh.

In college?

They were my professors.

Oh.

That's exciting.

What did you learn about, Bri?

Tree stars.

Hey, that's a great movie.

Series of movies?

They never ended.

No.

I'm surprised they're not still making them.

They might.

We should probably say what movie this is.

The Land Before Time series, if you haven't caught on to it.

Who hasn't seen that?

Anyone younger than us, Bri.

They don't do those anymore.

I think I saw something that they were making a new one, but it was like a different animation

style so it really weirded me out.

I feel like the whole story of it doesn't seem like it would translate super well to

now.

Dinosaurs?

No, like the depressing cartoon style.

Just ask Disney, they love to depress you.

They do, but not quite as much as they used to love to depress you.

See here's my theory.

They depress you with their cartoons so then you have to go to Disney World to be happy

again.

They've caught us.

They have us hook, line, and sinker.

I literally, like, I've, we're what, two and a half-ish months out?

Like 82 days.

From our trip to Disney, our millionth trip to Disney, and I have crossed over.

I know.

Like the moment we bought the plane tickets it was like, okay, all I want to do now is

watch the YouTube Disney videos and be a psycho.

I want to plan out every snack I'm going to eat while I'm there and also every outfit

that I'm going to wear while I'm there.

And I think I'm going to dress in theme every single day.

Wow.

That's a lot of commitment.

I don't have that level of commitment.

I'm probably not going to do that, but I do have a pair of alien ears.

You do.

I'm going to get that purse.

The little alien purse.

That was very cute.

I always have a desire to theme what I wear, but I just…

That's a lot of commitment.

I'm not that kind of an organized person.

Yeah.

I've always said that.

So anyway.

Speaking of movies and cinema.

Great transition, Bri.

Nice work.

Today we're talking about Bridgerton.

So we said for these mini episodes that we wanted to, like, talk about something super

current that's going on in the world.

And if you've been living under a rock, Bridgerton…

You still may have heard of it.

Bridgerton season 3, part 1 came out a little while ago, and part 2 comes out June 13th.

But I feel like by the time this comes out, you probably will have seen it.

Although I don't recommend that you watch it.

Watch at your own risk.

Yeah.

It's very graphic.

You know, there's actually a service.

It's called VidAngel.

I saw that.

Yeah.

So we used to use it way back in the day, and it filters out stuff for you.

So if you didn't want to see nudity, or you don't want the cussin, you know…

There's lots of cussin.

You can select what you don't want to see, and it'll kind of just like blip over that.

I feel like with Bridgerton, you probably would end up with about 30 seconds left of

an episode.

There's not going to be a lot.

Sorry, mom.

But we thought it would be fun to go through…

Bri has been listening to all the little clips and everything to talk about some of

the societal issues, I guess, in Bridgerton.

So if you don't know, Bridgerton is like, think Pride and Prejudice meets Gossip Girl,

is how I would best describe it.

And Julie Andrews narrates it.

She's lovely.

She's magical.

A treasure.

And inappropriate.

But it's about this family from the Regency era, so think like 1811 through 1820.

And it focuses on the elite society in London.

So the fancy pantses.

They hang out with the Queen, you know?

They do hang out with the Queen.

It seems like…

Is that a thing that people do?

Maybe the elite people did?

I don't know.

The Queen has such nice wigs.

Oh, she does.

She must be in pain all the time.

Did you know?

So the wig that she wore…

You know, remember, it's in, I think, the last episode of the first half of the third

season?

It's very complicated.

We split season 3 up.

And one of the episodes…

Because Netflix hates us.

Because Netflix wants you to pay multiple months and not just pay for one month and

be done.

It is wrecking me.

But her wig, the one that has…

I think it's like a carousel inside of it?

Do you know that took two years to design and create?

Oh my gosh.

When they were filming season 1, maybe?

Oh my gosh.

I don't know why it was that impactful that they were like, two years, that feels like

a reasonable amount of time to do this.

It is.

And I've always said that.

But I think I wanted to talk about Bridgerton today because I think it's a fantastic example

of how conservative Christian communities are living in the past.

I love that.

I mean, I don't love that, but I love the comparison.

Well, they make so many comments on it, like about women, and they're clearly being like,

obviously, this is the Regency era, 1811, blah, blah, blah, and how they viewed women.

So obviously today, it is not the same.

Whereas they would say that quote and the conservative Christians would be like, yeah,

I agree.

So give us an example, Brie, of a quote like that.

So the Bridgertons have eight siblings and each different… well, they're based off

of books by Julia Quinn, but each different season focuses on a different sibling from

the Bridgerton family.

So the first season focuses on the oldest daughter.

And it's all about marriage.

So it starts out with her being presented to the Queen, which essentially means she's

able to be married now.

And up until that point, her mother and her governess and her maids, whatever, have taught

her everything that she needs to know in order to be a perfect wife and attract a very suitable

husband with a title.

Her husband in that season is very attractive.

Not a lot of facial emotions, but he has a nice face.

So in season one, kind of spoilers, but the drama is that her brother has kind of ruined

it for her because he's trying to find the best possible suitor for her.

But in the process of doing that, he's made her look kind of snobbish.

And so she's fighting with her brother.

And the quote is, it's my duty to protect you.

And then she says, and what of my duty?

She says, you have no idea what it is to be a woman, what it might be like to have one's

entire life reduced to a single moment.

This is all I have been raised for.

This is all I am.

I have no other value.

If I am unable to find a husband, I will be worthless.

I feel like just mic drop right there.

I know.

Because you think, of course that's not true.

Like us in 2024, we're looking at that and we're like, of course that's not true.

Of course you have value.

But the conservative Christian world does not see women that way.

And especially for me coming from like, I'm single and I'm 29.

What happens in August when you have to say zip it?

You zip it.

I'm just going to pass away at that point.

I'm going to die at a lovely age of 29.

But I do feel like that when you step into a church and their first question meeting

you is like, oh, do you have a fiance, a husband, a boyfriend?

Do you have children?

They only preach to married people.

It's very rare for people like pastors to preach to single women.

When Harrison Butker goes up and says a women's greatest accomplishment or value is to be

a wife and mother, it isolates so many women and it makes you feel like your only value

is to be a wife and mother, which is just not true.

Because if you see Psalms 139, pull that up.

Oh, okay.

Hold on.

I didn't know I was getting called out.

Well that chapter talks about how much value you have in the eyes of God.

And it doesn't matter what you do.

It doesn't matter if you're married or single, if you have sinned or you're blameless, which

is not true.

But it doesn't matter what you do.

God is there and you have value because you're a child of God and that's the end of the list.

So verse 13 says, for you created my inmost being, you knit me together in my mother's

womb.

I praise you because I'm fearfully and wonderfully made.

Your works are wonderful.

I know that full well.

See isn't that powerful?

It is quite.

Well, it's a Psalm.

It's supposed to be.

All of Psalms are powerful.

But it's true.

One of the things that absolutely proves your point right there is when we were in a small

church recently, we were both going and the church leaders kind of made a bigger deal

out of Nathan and I and wanted to get to know us and chat with us.

Now me to a lesser extent than my husband, but still.

They took you out to lunch.

Yeah, it was a whole thing.

They remembered your name.

And then Brianna was there just as many times as I was literally sat next to me.

And I don't think anyone spoke a word to you.

No, it was like you didn't exist.

If they did speak a word to me, it was, Oh, are you married?

Do you have a husband?

And then once they find out that you don't, they don't have anything else to talk to

you about.

Or they say, Oh, like, how can you be single?

You're so pretty, which I am.

But that's insulting.

Right.

And it's insulting to say that because yes, I am beautiful.

And I hold value on my own.

Yeah, you don't have to sit around and wait until you get married to suddenly have a place

in the church or suddenly have a place in society.

And I think society, obviously, society is still sexist.

Don't get me wrong.

Look at TikTok.

But at the same time, I think society is trying up North American where we're sitting right

now society is trying to move towards single women have just as much value as married women.

But the church doesn't feel that way.

But Jesus was single.

Well, I mean, Paul says that it is better to be single.

And if you must get married, then to do so.

And I'm not saying I will never take a husband.

But right now in this season of my life, I am single.

And that's okay.

And to all of you single ladies out there, and especially if you're a little bit older

like I am, it's okay.

You're fine.

You can find that person if you want to online probably because where else do you find men?

But it's okay.

You are perfect just as you are you hold value and I love you.

And hold out for someone decent.

Yes, do not settle.

Like even you know, there's so much pressure to get married.

And even if everybody you know is getting married, you're at that age where like you're

going to 45 weddings and whatever.

My gosh, if he sucks, if he's terrible, leave him.

Because your marriage will suck and be terrible.

After actually branding got engaged, I was like, I'm alone.

I'm so alone.

So I went through this like speed dating process I was online I was talking to all the men.

And I found I'm, I'm the worst person like if you tell me that something's going wrong

in your relationship.

I'm like, leave him.

Because I did.

Like the first guy that I was dating in that season.

He explicitly was like, Oh, yeah, my dream for marriage is for me to be the head of the

household the spiritual lead.

And I went off.

I was like, absolutely not.

That's not what I'm looking for.

I'm looking for a partnership someone who values me beyond just being a wife or a mother.

And he's like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I totally agree.

That's what I meant.

That's what I meant was I want a partnership too.

And I was like, See you bye.

I think that's a fair see you bye.

And then the other guy was like, Well, I see us dating for about a year and then engaged

for about a year and then you don't want to have babies like when you're super old.

So we should start having babies pretty quickly.

And I was like, Whoa, and he's like, Well, what do you think?

Let's keep talking about it.

And I was like, I actually don't want to talk about this right now.

You're making me very uncomfortable.

And I want to stop this conversation.

He goes, he threw my age in my face and was like, Well, you're this age, we need to start

talking about this.

And I'm like, you'd been dating for what, like three months?

Maybe.

I was like, this is a good enough reason for me to leave you.

Goodbye.

But see, okay.

When you talk about it like that, it sounds flippant, like, Oh, well, fine, I'm just done.

But those are very serious warning signs.

Yeah.

And if you're seeing those three months and honestly, I think it was less than three months,

it's time to go.

Yeah.

And that would be my advice to people out there in the dating world.

Like you said, don't settle.

And if those warning signs or someone is making you feel that uncomfortable that quickly,

it's not worth it.

No, it's not.

There are so many people out there.

Well, I think again, we place so much value and church but also society as a whole on

marriage, on having that love marriage relationship that you see on TV.

On Bridgerton.

On Bridgerton.

That it seems like as long as we can get down the aisle, everything's going to be fine.

And that is not true.

Not at all true.

Don't set yourself up for failure.

Look for someone who's worth your time.

Because you've said like the first year of marriage was the hardest for you, right?

So hard.

Because you're trying to combine your life with somebody else's.

And so if you're not too strong people whose goal is to be there for the other person,

whose goal is to make this marriage work, it's not going to work.

You're screwed.

Like just give up now.

Like that sounds so bad, but really don't put yourself in that position.

Don't walk down the aisle.

Be a runaway bride.

I don't care.

Like if that's better for you, being a runaway bride is going to be a whole lot better than

walking through a messy divorce in five years with kids and dealing with all of that.

It's not worth it.

Bri, what's another quote from Bridgerton?

I would love to hear another.

Okay.

So this comes from season two.

Season two.

The worst of the seasons.

It's not good.

But there's only been two and a half so far.

That's fair.

But it's still the worst.

Although the main girl in that season is stunning.

She's beautiful.

So beautiful.

But the second season focuses on the oldest son, which I think is an interesting change

from like the daughter's perspective of season one.

And now we're in the son's perspective of season two and his job is to find a wife.

So his family legacy lives on so he can have an heir.

Well complicated stuff happens.

Anyways, he falls in love with a older woman, older for the time.

She's 26.

He's still younger than he is.

And she, I would say, doesn't conform to the traditional lady-like society because she's

not out looking for a husband really.

She's trying to find one for her sister.

You can watch season two and you can figure all that.

Anyways, she is going on a hunt with the men.

The men.

And the men kind of laugh when they find out that she is going to come and they're like,

women do not go on hunts.

And she responds with, women do not or women are not allowed to.

I think that is very powerful because how often are you hearing like, girls don't speak

like that.

Girls don't do that.

Girls don't wear clothes like that.

Literally my whole life.

All the time.

And my response now and forever will be, well women do speak like that because I am a woman.

And I'm speaking like that.

Well we get that a lot from this podcast of like, well we're not being feminine when we

speak because we'll say, we'll talk about stuff.

We'll say, piss piss piss.

We have one of those where we say boobs like 12 times.

And I understand that that's not lady-like.

Lady-like.

And I'm not saying that it's appropriate for every situation, but not because I'm a woman,

simply because it's not appropriate for every situation.

Exactly.

In this particular situation with you and I sitting here laughing, making jokes, knowing

that we're speaking primarily to women.

Not all, but primarily.

And that one guy on TikTok.

I think it's totally fine for us to speak like this and just be who we are.

Not who we are as women, not who we are as ladies, just who we are.

Because you can't say that all women are the same and should speak the same.

Like how they say, a woman's greatest value is to be a wife and mother.

What is a man's greatest value?

You wouldn't be able to define that because you'd say, well, there's so many different

individual men and their callings are different.

It's the same for women.

Right.

Everybody is different.

Their callings are different.

Their likes and dislikes are different.

Yeah.

Like she wants to go out on this hunt.

Let me tell you, no desire.

No, pass.

No, thank you.

I like the inside.

But I had several female friends who love to hunt.

My roommate from college, shout out to Jamie, she hunts bears.

Love that for her.

If that's where she finds joy, have a super time.

Not where I find joy, but not because I'm a woman.

Again, simply because you are Alyssa.

Because I'm me.

Well, we had this conversation last night with our mom where we said, and I'm absolutely

guilty of doing this too, but whenever a statement starts out with, as a woman, I feel this way.

Or not from me, but from someone else.

As a man, I feel this way.

And the issue with those statements is that you're putting yourself in the place to be

the speaker for all womankind.

As a woman, don't you think you just want to be taken care of?

No, not as a woman.

If you in your life-

As an individual, everyone wants to be taken care of.

So that's kind of a bad example.

But if you in your life want to be someone who's financially taken care of, who's not

necessarily bringing in money-

Hey Jack, I would love that.

I'm looking for a sugar daddy.

You can't say that.

That's against the whole podcast.

I'm looking for a husband of great age, close to death, no children.

He needs to be wealthy.

You missed that part.

Very wealthy.

That's the really important part.

But the point is that those statements aren't because you're a woman or because you're

a man or because you're whatever.

It's simply because you're you.

You have one more quote that I really like that I want to get to.

I haven't seen season three part two yet because in my world it's not out yet.

But there was a quote on the trailer for it and it was so good.

Alyssa and I both picked up on it.

As soon as we saw it we were texting each other like, did you see that?

As we're in bed at 8 o'clock.

So season three focuses on one of the Bridgerton's sons and his best friend who becomes his more

than friends.

So this girl's name is Penelope.

And Penelope's mother is talking to her.

That's the best British accent I've ever heard.

I think we should go to England on our trip and you should talk like that.

I'm looking for the queen.

Too bad she's dead.

She's that's the way.

Oh the queen.

Things are so sad.

I think she died like two years ago.

It's really upsetting.

Anyways, so Penelope's mother is talking to her before she gets married to Mr. Bridgerton.

And her quote is, your duty is to cater to Mr. Bridgerton's dreams.

And Penelope says, what about my dreams?

And her mother says, ladies do not have dreams.

They have husbands.

Does that feel like it could be a direct quote out of Harrison Butker's stupid speech?

Yes.

Because he literally says that.

I wrote that in my notes.

Harrison Butker didn't say that as bluntly, but he did say that.

Absolutely.

It's the same message.

And again, within religious spheres, not everyone, but this is being said to women.

This is being taught to women.

You don't have dreams.

Your dream is to be a wife and mom.

Your job is to build up your husband's dreams and all of his desires and encourage them.

When I was younger, I did not want kids at all.

Now that has changed.

Love my kids.

It's amazing.

It's funny how you and I have flip-flopped.

I wanted 100 children and now I'm like, no!

Because you saw childbirth.

It's really scary.

But really, I had no desire for kids and a lot of that was who I was dating at the time.

I didn't want it and I was fairly vocal about it.

You're fairly vocal.

Yeah.

Period.

I'm an introvert, but I'm also kind of a loudmouth.

You are.

I don't know how that combines, but I am.

And so the rest of the family was fairly well aware of that.

And all the time, every time, it's like, well, you'll change your mind.

You'll change your mind.

You'll change your mind.

And I guess I'm a bad example because obviously I do have kids and they're wonderful.

But just the point of like, that's the message we're giving to women is, well, you just

really don't matter if you don't have kids.

That's so true.

That's how it feels.

That is being said to women all the time.

So one of the things that I've tried to be really conscious of with my daughter is she,

I mean, she's young, so it's not like she's making major life decisions now, but she has

said, I don't really want to have kids, mostly because it's going to hurt.

She's heard my story.

I'm pretty blatant.

And I've been very clear with her, if that's what you want, great.

If you don't want kids, great.

Do your thing.

Live whatever life you want to live.

If you do want to have kids, I'll be right there to support you.

If you don't want to have kids, I'll be right there to support you.

And she's so funny because there have been, you know, we come from a conservative space.

And so when she says things like that, she gets the same crap that I got as a kid.

And somebody said something to her once and I was like about to mama bear it.

So someone, she wants to be an astronaut, or she did.

Now she wants to be Taylor Swift.

But she, I think she still kind of wants to be an astronaut.

And someone had said to her, well, what are your kids going to do when you're up in space?

Oh, I almost lost my mind.

But she, no issues.

Like right away she goes, someone else will take care of them.

They'll be fine.

And I was like, it's just so wonderful.

Because you, you always hope that your kids are hearing the things that you're saying.

And the fact that she doesn't have that hold on her to say, well, you must be a wife and

mom first.

If that's what she wants at the end of the day is to be a wife and stay at home mom,

great.

But that is not who she has to be.

Right.

She gets to make that decision.

Yeah.

And I think that's very, it's a cool thing that I get to do and that you get to do and

like the people pouring into her life get to see.

She's a strong cookie.

Yeah.

And I hope that that's something that we're doing for whoever's listening, but that you

can do it for the younger women in your life, whether they're your kids or not.

Yeah.

She's not my kid.

Like whoever's life you get to pour into, I hope you can give them that confidence to

say, I'm going to be who I want to be.

I'm going to follow the dreams that God gives me, not the dreams that God gave my husband

or if I choose not to take a husband.

You know, I hope that for us all that we can move into that space finally.

Something else I wrote on my notes is about just power dynamics.

It just, it seems so desperate to keep this patriarchal society, this very like 1950s

view of marriage.

It seems desperate at this point because there's so much information out there disproving these

traditional gender role beliefs.

It seems like, well, if I lose this power, then who am I?

You know?

Well, then I mean, I think that that's hitting the nail on the head.

This has been so ingrained in generations of men that this is who you are.

And if this isn't who you are, then you're weak.

You're not fulfilling what God wants of you and you're useless to us.

Jesus wasn't that.

Jesus wasn't this like, take charge, must be in control, manly man.

That's never said in the Bible.

It's nowhere.

Jesus was a quiet leader who put himself last.

And for anyone out there who wants to be a leader, that's the best kind of leader you

can be, man or woman.

So we love Pride and Prejudice, and we always have, as long as I can remember.

Oh yeah.

When I say that, I mean the four hour long BBC special with Colin frickin' Fur.

He is beautiful.

But we used to watch that regularly all the time, at least probably quarterly.

We watched that entire thing, if not more.

So we're watching it today, because why not?

It ties into Bridgerton.

They're both regency.

And one of the things that I picked up on, and we were sitting watching it and I was

like, oh, I gotta talk about this in the podcast.

Elizabeth is walking, so her sister Jane, Jane is the oldest.

I feel like if you haven't seen this, there's going to be some context issues.

But Pride and Prejudice has been around for a long time.

I feel like there's very few spoilers.

So Jane is sick and she is staying with Mr. Bingley, who she's interested in.

Not like staying with him, staying with him.

She was over there and she got sick.

And apparently in Regency England, you can't travel three miles when you're sick.

So they like keep her there and bring the doctor and whatever.

So her sister Lizzie walks over to Mr. Bingley's house.

So it's like three miles, she walks it, sounds like a terrible time to me.

I'm not a walker.

Plus she's in like 45 skirts.

It's not a good time.

But she decides to walk.

And it's like a big thing with her mom that she goes walking with her sisters, whatever.

So she gets there and one of Mr. Bingley's sisters who is staying with him, they're

like making fun of her a little bit because she's country and a little bit hickish and

whatever.

And so the one girl is talking about Lizzie's skirts and she goes six inches deep in mud,

I swear.

So the other sister says that Lizzie walking was some kind of conceited independence.

So I wrote it down.

And I just, again, this Regency era, but still also applicable to what we talk about modern

day, all the girl chose to do was walk.

She did something slightly out of like the normal line of things.

The feminine expectation.

Now, if a man had walked, that wouldn't have been odd at all.

But because she's a woman, her walking was like, that's a little unfeminine.

That's a little weird.

So now we're going to say she's conceitedly independent.

I feel like that's secretly said to someone, like if you are a feminist in the Christian

world, it's like conceited independence.

My gosh, I feel like that should be our tagline.

We are more the conceitedly independent sisters.

I think that's good.

I think it is.

I'll put it up next time.

One of the characters in Bridgerton that is a feminist is Eloise.

She's one of the sisters, Bridgerton sisters.

And she is looked at as very different because she has these like feminist viewpoints, which

are very different for the Regency era.

She wants to go to college, right?

Yeah, she wants to go to college.

She doesn't really want to get married.

She doesn't want to come out to society because that totally freaks her out.

When you say come out to society, we mean-

Be presented to the Queen.

There you go.

And say that you're ready for marriage.

Our idea of coming out is very different in 2024.

Imagine how unfortunate.

She goes to college and she graduates and she has to hear Harrison Butchers' money.

Your greatest value is to be a wife and mother.

So in season two, she is presented to society and she's compared to her sister who is like

the perfect lady.

So she's being compared to her sister and the quote is, she's talking to her mom.

She goes, I know that they are comparing me to Daphne.

I can never live up to that.

I do not want to live up to that, but it does not make it any easier to know you are constantly

disappointing people just by walking into a room.

How many times as a single person have I felt that way?

Every time I enter a holiday gathering alone, they're like, oh, you haven't found a husband

yet.

Constantly disappointing people.

And I feel like just that viewpoint needs to change.

Sometimes I feel like that with this podcast too.

We are so far away from what we grew up believing.

I think whenever we go into larger gatherings, this topic comes up a lot of the podcast or

feminism or whatever.

People know that we like to talk about it and so they like to push our buttons a little

bit sometimes or just have a conversation.

And it's the same thing.

It feels like we're constantly disappointing you just by being who we are.

Being conceitedly independent.

But I think because we are conceitedly independent, we are able to move past that to some degree

and because we have each other.

Yeah, I think that's a big thing.

We have our parents who are very supportive of who we are, of the podcast, of the opinions

we have on things.

And that allows us to feel safe and secure.

And a little bit empowered.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not everybody has that.

Yeah.

And you think about someone in that situation like the quote you just read and absolutely

they feel constantly disappointing.

And that's a big ask for somebody to step out and say, no, what I've been taught is

wrong.

And now you don't have any support anymore.

Right.

Now, who are you?

You're not your beliefs anymore because your beliefs have changed.

It makes it a lot easier to conform to someone that you are not.

Yeah.

Sometimes you want that feeling of acceptance.

I mean, even for us, the easier path certainly would be, certainly with all the churches

we've had to go through lately, it would be to just say, yeah, this is fine.

I'll just pretend that I believe this stuff.

I could have married that man who wanted to have all my babies.

I don't think he wanted to have your babies.

He did.

He wanted to have them and birth them.

He wanted to be the first man pregnant.

I mean, that's a better deal for you.

I know.

Childbirth is not a great time.

Maybe I should call him.

Please don't.

So next week we have an episode coming up.

We just recorded it.

It's our part three of the submission series and it is about the passage where Paul calls

men the head of women.

So we're going to talk through that.

It's a super fun one.

Well, maybe fun's not the right word.

I would say it's about the same as everything else.

We laugh a lot because we're at great times.

Yeah.

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