The Dr. JJ Thomas Podcast

What’s the secret to keeping wrestlers performing at their peak while staying injury-free? In this episode, I take you behind the scenes of my work with Lehigh University’s wrestling team. I show how I use my Primal Foundations Method to help athletes move better, prevent injuries, and boost performance. You’ll see live footage of a warmup session with 12 exercises designed to treat the body as a system, tailored specifically for wrestlers. Plus, I discuss how movement assessments and targeted treatment can make all the difference for sports performance. Tune in to learn how these techniques can keep wrestlers at their best, and stay tuned for part 2 next week!

========================

Get A Free Copy Of My Book: 5 Things Your MUST do to Build a Successful Cash Based PT Practice:  This quick, easy-to-read guide is your no BS steps to what really works in building a Cash Based Physical Therapy business.
👉 https://bit.ly/SuccessfulCashBasedBusinessebook

For more on our in person Physical Therapy continuing education classes, check out our Primal University 🎓 https://bit.ly/primaluniversityyt

========================

Learn More about Primal Physical Therapy 👉  https://bit.ly/primalphysicaltherapy

========================
With over 20 years as a physical therapist, JJ’s passion for movement along with her unique experiences and training have shaped her into the successful clinician and educator she is.

JJ graduated from the University of Delaware in 2000, which is now ranked as the #1 physical therapy school in the nation. She holds multiple certifications in a variety of advanced specialty techniques and methods, all of which complement her role as an expert clinician and educator. JJ has been certified in dry needling since 2009, and began instructing dry needling in 2012. She currently teaches for Evidence in Motion (EIM), and also independently lectures and trains other clinicians throughout the country in the fields of physical therapy, chiropractic, and sports medicine. She uses her expertise to help other professionals advance their skills and outcomes, either through manual interventions or specialized movement analysis.

JJ Thomas also has certifications in Gray Cook’s Selective Functional Movement Assessment (SFMA), ACE Gait Analysis, Functional Range Conditioning (FRC), The Raggi Method of Postural Evaluation (based out of Italy), and many other joint, soft tissue, and neural mobilization techniques. In addition to these accomplishments, JJ is also a trainer for GMB Fitness, where building a solid foundation fosters restoring functional, pain-free movement.

JJ’s expertise in the area of movement analysis and in dry needling has played a large part in success in the field of sports medicine. JJ has had the honor to work with the US Field Hockey Team, and with individual professional athletes from NFL, MLB, NBA, USATF, PGA, US Squash, USPA (polo), and more.

As a recognized expert in dry needling and consultant for organizations such as the Federation of State Boards of Physical Therapy (FSBPT) and the American Physical Therapy Association (APTA), JJ has contributed to national legislative advancements in dry needling. Her work with these organizations includes establishing national education standards for dry needling competence and successfully adding a Trigger Point Dry Needling CPT code for insurance and billing coverage. JJ assisted the APTA in successfully adding a specific CPT code for trigger point dry needling in CPT 2020.

========================

Join Dr. JJ Thomas On Social:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/primalphysicaltherapy/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jj-thomas-31755023/

========================

Creators & Guests

Host
Dr. JJ Thomas
Master of Movement With over 20 years of experience, Dr. JJ Thomas has established herself as a highly successful clinician and educator. Her unique experiences and training have shaped her into a passionate advocate for movement and patient care. Graduated from the renowned University of Delaware, the #1 ranked physical therapy school in the nation. Holds multiple certifications in advanced specialty techniques, including dry needling, SFMA, FRC, and more. Instructs and trains clinicians nationwide in physical therapy, chiropractic, and sports medicine, both through Evidence in Motion (EIM) and independently. Expertise in movement analysis and dry needling has made her a sought-after professional in the field of sports medicine. Worked with notable organizations and athletes, including the US Field Hockey Team and professional athletes from NFL, MLB, NBA, USATF, PGA, US Squash, USPA (polo), and more. Recognized as an expert and consultant in dry needling, contributing to national legislative advancements and education standards in the field. Lives an active lifestyle, engaging in various activities like running, weight lifting, Jiu Jitsu, hiking, skiing, and more.

What is The Dr. JJ Thomas Podcast?

Welcome to The Dr. JJ Thomas Podcast! Here I'll be talking all things physical therapy, raw and unplugged, giving you the unfiltered insights you've been searching for in your cash-based physical therapy business. If you're caught in the grind of the traditional model, swamped with paperwork, or feeling like you're not reaching your full potential as a physical therapist, this podcast was created just for you.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

The reason I'm here is to help you guys move better if, you know, essentially injury prevention is sports performance is kind of the way we think of things. We're gonna go through this with the, with the warm up.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I'm gonna do a warm up

Doctor JJ Thomas:

with you guys later. We have, like, 12 exercises that we're gonna do, and they're all designed to treat your body as a system in a way that helps you function better on the mats.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Welcome to the doctor JJ Thomas podcast.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Hey. Welcome to the doctor JJ Thomas podcast. I'm JJ Thomas. We're here again with a special treat. Last week, I was actually had the opportunity to work with Lehigh wrestlers.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And, if you guys know me at all, or you've watched any of my episodes, or content on social media, then you probably know there are a couple of things that, make me happy. 1 is wrestling and grappling sports. And 2 is having the opportunity to treat and train the body as a system. So in my work with these wrestlers last Friday, I had the opportunity to do both. I got to work with, any anywhere from 5 to 8, I think, wrestlers, and coach Pat Santoro.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

We got to look at movement, full body movement evaluation, and treat things that would help their, not just, injury prevention, but also sports performance. And so we have some live footage of my work with these wrestlers that we're gonna share with you. And those of you who have been hearing about the primal foundations method, and this whole test and retest, and treating the body as a system, hopefully, seeing it live in action in this way will help, close some questions that you might have had in the past. The second part of it is also going to be where I designed a, warm up program for these, wrestlers. And the warm up program is specifically chosen for them to, again, treat and train the body as as a system in a way that will help prevent injuries for them.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Almost 50% of non contact injuries in wrestling happen in one of 3 areas, either the shoulder, the knee, or the spine. And so the the warm up that I designed for them is gonna cumulatively, protect them in the areas that are often susceptible to injury in a sport like wrestling or grappling. Hope you like it. I know the wrestlers I got feedback from Pat Santoro, just yesterday. He said they loved it, and they're enjoying incorporating into their practices already.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So, I hope you enjoy it too. So we'll talk, but, if there's anywhere in the system that we can make him stronger to to make that pull less for him, like, a lot of wrestlers have weaker posterior chain, believe it or not, in the rotator cuff. I don't know. Like, when I and that comes down to both being pulled anteriorly from being in the but also getting so much high demand with on their shoulders. So sometimes if we can just, like, actually treat the shoulders, it'll take stress off the hamstrings too or treat or give exercises or whatever.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So it'll be cool to look at his whole body movement and see if you need maybe that's an option. The reason the reason you might the reason I'm here is to help you guys move better if you know, essentially, injury prevention is sports performance is kind

Coach Pat Santoro:

of the way we think of things.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

We're gonna go through this with the, with the warm up.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I'm gonna do a warm up

Doctor JJ Thomas:

with you guys later. We have, like, 12 exercises that we're gonna do, and they're all designed to treat your body as a system in a way that helps you function better on the mats and and stay out of injury as much as possible. Phil does a lot of that great stuff with you already. It's just it's just more like another another way to add another piece to the puzzle to just try to optimize you guys as much as possible. The needling part of it, what the needling does that's slightly different is it it it helps to reset muscles so that they can function the way they're intended to function fully.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So if you I don't know if you've got here before we started working with Mike, but, like, he couldn't raise his arm overhead, face down. And then by the time we were done with the needling, he was able to recruit those muscles. It's very similar to what we do with, like, massage or Graston or all the stuff you're already getting. It's just a little bit more specific so we can really target areas more specifically and get a little bit of a greater response in shorter time. So usually when I work with somebody, like, I think I heard you guys saying, like, what should I get worked on?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Whatever. Usually what we do is we use movement to assess where somebody can benefit from the work the most because the body tricks us. Like, we have symptoms somewhere, and oftentimes, those symptoms, we think, like, oh, it's my hamstring. Right? But oftentimes, what we find is when we look at the whole body's movement, it may be coming from somewhere else.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. And so I usually, when I'm working with somebody, will use the movement to tell me where to treat. And sometimes it's the same as where you're having your symptoms, and sometimes it's not. This with the left hand. The opposite hand.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Thank you. You wouldn't know the

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I don't know. Cyst, but

Coach Pat Santoro:

it's only So we're gonna get pectineas just medial to the femoral. I don't

Lehigh wrestler 1:

know if you can see the jump. I can feel them. I know you

Coach Pat Santoro:

see. I can feel it. Yeah. It's not one of my to do listings.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. Not really. Nothing hurt. It's not comfortable.

Coach Pat Santoro:

That's the only thing I can explain it.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

I just sweat.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. It does make you sweat. It's a

Coach Pat Santoro:

At first time?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That was an even better one. Yeah. You saw that jump. Right, Phil? Good job.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I didn't do anything.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So yes. You did. You it's what you didn't do that I'm commending you for. You didn't you didn't swat me. Relax.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yes. And now I feel how the hips going up better.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

Yeah. That that's good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I should've let you feel it because you can just feel the change right away. Now

Coach Pat Santoro:

I'm gonna do

Doctor JJ Thomas:

TFL max. So same hand position, only grab a little higher over here. Good. Okay. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Is it still worse when you're, like, after sitting on periods, things like that?

Lehigh wrestler 2:

Like, in the mornings, most of the worst. And then, you know, the last few days when Phil's warming up pretty good, it's been good in the room. There's certain things we do. Like, I sell them the other day. We did, like, the ball like, the lacrosse ball, and it's, like, 10 minutes or so, it feels good, and then it panes up right away.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Doesn't last

Doctor JJ Thomas:

very long. And where were you

Coach Pat Santoro:

lacrosse balling? Right here. TFL.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Oh, TFL. Yeah.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I think we

Doctor JJ Thomas:

were really missing that that deep adductor, which you it's hard to get with massage or grass and or

Lehigh wrestler 2:

We've done that one before. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It's so deep, as you just felt. But, so we do we go, we thread across the muscles sometimes, and then sometimes we'll pick them off. We call it, like, sniper, you know, versus so, like, here, I can get it right as it attaches on the outer surface of the ilium as well. So that's more of a direct technique. I'm not just showing off, Pat, you actually needed that one.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

I can tell when it goes big bump at first, then I know

Lehigh wrestler 1:

it was

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. Mhmm.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

Like, sometimes they're they're mild, and sometimes they're just, like they may not be big. It feels big.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

No. It was he saw your whole leg move. I'm sure. That was pretty yeah. See how much better now.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So 4, 5 I mean,

Coach Pat Santoro:

that was 5 needles. I think he's just

Doctor JJ Thomas:

of much cleaner now. The only thing I do wanna get out of there just a little bit more. So we'll slide your hand back down. I know. Oh, my Oh,

Lehigh wrestler 2:

that's kinda I can tell because that's already sore from lifting you.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I can have that a little bit.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

Doing side lunges. I was doing Jordan's workout.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

What? Yeah. Front squat, but I I just use a kettlebell because I can't put I don't wanna put weight.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I want in. Send me the workout. I wanna do Jordan's workout.

Coach Pat Santoro:

It's 5 by 5.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I love 5 by 5.

Coach Pat Santoro:

It's 5 exercises, I think. I think it's front squat.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

It was a dead lift,

Lehigh wrestler 1:

and then

Lehigh wrestler 2:

it was a side lunge, front lunge, and back lunge. Oh.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Oh. You see you

Lehigh wrestler 1:

guys are there? Yeah. I didn't

Lehigh wrestler 2:

feel good.

Coach Pat Santoro:

We got way better.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Okay. So

Lehigh wrestler 2:

let's do this instead of a warm up for wrestling.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Right?

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Alright.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Go ahead

Doctor JJ Thomas:

and sit up. We'll check your range,

Lehigh wrestler 1:

and then

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I'll go back to those other ones because, really, like, the goal is to is to treat the thing right now. Yeah. Treat the thing that's bothersome and aggravated, but not lose sight of what else is bringing

Coach Pat Santoro:

this up.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

First day, I was just like

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Drenched. It was a Yeah. I know. That's not atypical, though. Yep.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So look down and then look up in center, and then look right and look left. So interesting neck. It's moved a little better, though. Can you tell?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Arms.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

See. You can't tell.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Go again.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Go left.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It's easier. You're going, like, 5 degrees further, and it's easier. And that's oftentimes that anterior so when we shorten this, we shorten the anterior.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

This is affecting

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Exactly. That's what I mean. So just by loosening adductors that have a common abdominal attachment, and then that affects pecs on this side as well.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

Mike, this is what you need.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. Yeah. I can work with them.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

I'll be happy to.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Arms overhead. Pat's like, I'm ready to give up my ticket.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Exactly. Arms

Doctor JJ Thomas:

overhead and extend back.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. That'd be awesome. If

Doctor JJ Thomas:

possible. Now that's better. Yeah. Oh my god. That was better.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So put the right arm up overhead for me, left hand on the hip, and extend. That's even better. That's good. And flip sides. Just see if you go any further.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Sorry.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

I do that all the time.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It's okay. No. You're better. Turn around. Let's check multisegmental rotation.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Feet together, palms facing front. Rotate to the right. Look behind me. It's even better. And then left.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So now we're about 50 degrees. So we're not quite 50 degrees still here on this pelvis. It's better. We gained, like, 15 degrees, I'd say. And he's in, so now he's bending his right knee to really try to get it.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

But, but we could do that.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

I'm cheating?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

No. Not really. You're an achiever is what I said. Go face down. We're just gonna do that

Coach Pat Santoro:

left glute a little bit,

Doctor JJ Thomas:

and then that's probably actually all this is the good news. So this is we've been working together a little while, but Yeah. Probably how many times? I've only seen you maybe 3 or 4 times.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

3 or 4. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. And so the good news is there's less and less to work on. Like, even now, even after all the time between last time and this time, there's much less you're moving much better. So now we're going glute med, men fell all the way to the ilium. Good job.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So let's check neck again. Okay. Look left. Good. I'd say that's the same as last time.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Look right for me. Good. That looks good. Both arms up overhead. Extend back as far as you can.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I like that a lot. Back to center. That's perfect now. Let's go, face away from me. We're gonna do those rotations.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Feet together. Make sure knees stay straight. They can rotate, but not bend. Look to the right. Good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That's good. So we're about 45 degrees at the pelvis there. I like that. That's good. We're getting there.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That one still doesn't wanna go.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Feels tight. It might be the opposite side.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So when you rotate, like, that's called multi segmental rotation. Like, it's kind of a zoomed out perspective of how everything should move. Right? Yep. And we wanna see the upper trunk and the lower trunk both move about 50 degrees if you're a rotisserie chicken.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

On the left, on the left, it's like 10, at the pelvis. The upper trunk moves great, but to the left, it's really, it's about 10, 15 degrees max. To the right, you're close to 40 now, so that's good.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

I just feel like from here down,

Lehigh wrestler 1:

I'm

Doctor JJ Thomas:

feeling the

Lehigh wrestler 2:

mess right now.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. So, and I'm glad, and so we can actually get iliopsoas from the back as well, at the psoas attachment on the lumbar spine. So, we might once I get in there and feel how it is, we may take advantage of that. Alright. So you're gonna drop this knee down for me, just like that, and then take this arm and kinda drape it across your face.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Right. Perfect. Good. And then slide this hip back just a tip. Yep.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That's perfect. Good. Great. Alright. Here we go, Pat.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So that's on transverse process though. So get in those erector spinae on the transverse process. And then I'm gonna come forward of

Coach Pat Santoro:

that and get a little of this. So it was on there.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Same thing. You can't see these because they're super deep, but they're they're dumping. Yeah. Alright. Let's see what that did.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So take your time and stand up again.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Want me to go

Lehigh wrestler 1:

and take

Coach Pat Santoro:

some weight from you? Yes.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Let's go straight to that. All the other motions upgrade. It's really just this one. We're cleaning our feet together. Yep.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And you're gonna rotate to the right. Look behind me. Yay. That's better. That's the full 50 now.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

Can you see that?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. So that actually helped. And that helped that one too. I still want more. I'm so greedy.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Let's side bend again. Side bend to the right and side bend to the left.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

Doesn't feel tight.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Good. Let's go right again. I may do the right side

Coach Pat Santoro:

and go left.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And then let's do one more rotate to the left just so I can see where I think it's happening.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Look for me.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Look for me. Come back to center. Right knee was straight. Go left one

Coach Pat Santoro:

more time for me. Look for me.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

For me. Look for me.

Coach Pat Santoro:

It's so much better, but

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I do think it's here. Let's go left side lying, so we'll just face that way. Good job. One more. Great.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Put together. Let's see if I rotate right. There he is, and left. I like it. I'll take it.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You're, like, 48 degrees on the left now. Do this one more time. Do that hip lift. It should feel easier.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

Yeah. I don't feel like hip until I get this high.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Good. You know me?

Lehigh wrestler 2:

I feel it like this?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Mhmm. And then the exercises we're gonna do as, like, today, you could just honestly do those because it's very similar. You have the same patterns they're gonna have because you're a wrestler.

Coach Pat Santoro:

There you go.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

What do

Coach Pat Santoro:

you think? This will be more access to it. Me too. Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

Yeah. Definitely wanna call some guy who's considered just how their body moves are so tight.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. I feel like my muscle tenses up and stops my motion.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

For sure.

Coach Pat Santoro:

My delt

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You're exactly like, you know how you said over there, you're like, I'm big on mobility. Mobility is important. But a lot of times, the reason mobility is limited is because stability or strength is actually failing us for some way for some reason. And that's why we do this whole body movement assessment because what we find is if we can find another piece of the puzzle to support that strength, say, in your shoulder

Coach Pat Santoro:

Right.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Then it'll be able to meet the demands you know, have the capacity to meet the demands that you're asking it to. Yeah. So let's can we take shirt off so I can see everything really well?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Just low right back side right right side and low back gets really tight. Okay. And then, obviously, just typical wrestler.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Stuff. Yeah. Let's do it. Okay. Feet together.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Relax your arms. Look down as far as you can. Good. Look up as far as you can. Good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Back to center. Look over your right shoulder. And center and left shoulder. Good. Back to center.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Let's take your right arm and go like this, and look right, center, and then drop left arm and the left. So that changes back to center. It's not perfect, but your neck moves a little bit better, which tells us the front of your body the tightness in the front of your body is limiting your neck a little bit. Right arm, elbow straight, straight up back as far as you can. Keep the elbow straight.

Coach Pat Santoro:

With the elbow in the rib cage. Right?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Well, actually, I don't mind because I'll look for those compensations. Okay. Thank you, though. That's awesome. And then from there, touch behind to the opposite shoulder.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Good. Back. Exactly. Come back down. Left arm, same thing.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Straight back as far as oh, yeah. And bicep doesn't wanna like, you don't wanna straighten your elbow there too, I notice. Good. Go back as far as you can, and then from there, touch behind. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. He needs love. He does. Come back. Alright.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Right arm straight back.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Like my scap wants to cramp do.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yes. Straight back. Touch behind. Back to center. Left arm.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It's okay. Pack on that side. Yeah. And cuff. Okay.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Back to center. Let's just continue the screen. Bend forward as far as you can. Yeah. Legs straight?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That's good. Yeah. Legs straight. Good. Come back up.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Arms overhead. Extend back as far as you can. Yeah. And you can see that left arm lags behind. Come back to center.

Coach Pat Santoro:

A 100%.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So let's put both hands on the hips and start.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I feel in my stance too. Like, if I'm here Yes.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

And I

Coach Pat Santoro:

go to collar tie

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yep.

Coach Pat Santoro:

This range is comfortable with my right arm.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Mhmm.

Coach Pat Santoro:

This arm Mhmm. It gets really uncomfortable. So I usually thankfully, I'm I'm really heavy with my right collar tie, so I don't have to use this hand as much. Oh, it's

Lehigh wrestler 2:

pretty heavy. Heavy.

Coach Pat Santoro:

But I I,

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I probably let

Coach Pat Santoro:

it subconsciously use it less Yep. Just because Whereas

Doctor JJ Thomas:

if it was available to you, maybe you would use it more.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Right.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I got you.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Which I mean, you you adjust and you

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Everybody does that. But, yeah, it would be nice to have all your all your eggs. Go ahead up, straight overhead again, and extend. Extend your whole body back. Good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Back to center. Good. Let's do the right side up, left hand on your hip, and extend. Yeah. Come back to center.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Very different. Right?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

When the left arm's up, you can see it limits your low back. So who knows chicken or the egg, like that l 4 5 thing you had, may have been predisposed because of an underlying movement deficit here here all along, or it could be that this is playing off that. It doesn't we don't really know, but but the point is they're affecting each other.

Coach Pat Santoro:

This one happened in high school. Yeah. This one probably happened within the past 3 years.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

In terms of the symptoms. But, like, what we find oftentimes, if I do a movement screen on

Doctor JJ Thomas:

somebody Yeah. Symptoms, but, like, what we find oftentimes, if I do a movement screen on somebody Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

We'll pick up movement deficits that aren't like, even, like, coach.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Like, you

Doctor JJ Thomas:

know, he didn't necessarily have active shoulder issues, but his shoulder was a component of his back. So in high school, even as a wrestler, you might have already been developing this deficit and not known it. Gotcha.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

That's what

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I was getting at. Alright. Bend forward again one more time and let your arms hang. Good. Come back up, and then I'm gonna have you squeeze my hand between your knees.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Squeeze it nice and strong. Good. Bend forward as far as you can as you squeeze. Okay. Come back up.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

A little bit easier when that happens. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So, again, that's like, like, adductors, core stability patterns.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I've been doing some, like, hip symmetry movement strengthening type stuff

Lehigh wrestler 1:

to get

Coach Pat Santoro:

my hips

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Like CARS?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Better aligned and also just to function better

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Cool.

Coach Pat Santoro:

And get, get them doing what they're supposed to do. Because I feel like my right glute doesn't necessarily fire the same as my left.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Mhmm.

Coach Pat Santoro:

So I've just been doing a bunch of research

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And that's this. Like, that's that cross pattern again. So we're we'll look at that. Let's look at that right now. Palms facing front, rotate to the right, look behind me.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Look for me. Look for me. I think the movement's been helping.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And then left, what type of what is it from? Where are you?

Coach Pat Santoro:

It's this thing called Pain Academy.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Oh, yeah. Come back to center. Keep the right knee straight and go left again. So okay. Good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So let's go so you could feel the limitation there. Right?

Coach Pat Santoro:

For sure. And it takes a while to warm this one up, but I'm probably gonna sit.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Let me check one more thing. Have a seat right here. Sit completely on the table, and

Lehigh wrestler 1:

then, yeah, scoop back. Good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I got sit tall, and then left arm straight overhead as high as you can, elbow straight. Go back as far as you can. Try that first pattern we did from here. Touch. Touch behind the opposite

Lehigh wrestler 1:

shoulder.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I gotta move my head.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That's okay. Come back down and then stand. And then do the same thing. See if it's different. Easier or harder?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Easier. Easier when you stand. So that low back is so they're playing off each other. When I stretch your low back and then I ask your shoulder to move, similar to how if you're in stance, right, your low back is stretched and it's making it harder on that shoulder.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. And how do the the shortening or the lengthening of the hamstrings play a role in that specific

Doctor JJ Thomas:

like, with your tight or not?

Coach Pat Santoro:

I guess just, like, the strength of the hamstring, how does that affect the

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It's part of that posterior chain.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Right.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So that's in

Coach Pat Santoro:

that line. Because I got told recently my hamstrings are kinda weak, which is crazy because

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You'll hear you say when we do the when we do the, it's very common in wrestlers. Like I've

Coach Pat Santoro:

been doing a bunch of, like, active, like, bad movement strengthening exercises every day, and I feel like it's helping.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Good. Yeah. When we can strengthen the entire posterior train at once, it'll save you time and kind of make you more yeah. Make you more efficient. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So, try this one, same thing. Lift it up as high as you can, keep the elbow on me. Yeah. There you go. Same thing.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Like, he can't recruit. You have all that range that you're not able to recruit in.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Good for your

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Here we go, Mike. You ready?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yep. Oh, my gosh. No. I play.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

That's the biggest need ever.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Just kidding.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I don't have wheels. I'm honestly, I'm super comfortable with this stuff. No. It's good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It's a pretty big lat, so it it justifies a pretty big needle.

Coach Pat Santoro:

This was like a foot and a half long.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

This is Dom.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Hey. How

Doctor JJ Thomas:

are you? It's so good to see you. Yeah. I mean, all I know is Dom and his dad, but

Lehigh wrestler 2:

You're supposed to believe that much?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Stop. Just kidding, Mike. I can joke with Mike.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I like it. Let's do one more here.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

So if you decided to dry a new one, you have to put the table out there, though.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Because this is like I don't even really feel the needle.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I know. I

Coach Pat Santoro:

feel you all squeeze me more.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You feel my man my husband calls him my man hands.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. That's a dragny wing.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

It's it's crazy.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Like Alright. Doesn't look sick. I feel that more than you.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

I know

Coach Pat Santoro:

you all feel you know what? It doesn't feel like.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Come up. Up. Let's straight up.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

See if you

Lehigh wrestler 2:

can just look at your efficiency.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Little better. We want more. No.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

I'll do it.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You're not cramping now, though. Right?

Lehigh wrestler 2:

For a minute. That was just coming up.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Nice. We're going cuffed now, boys.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Roger that.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

What time is it? I just wanna make sure I get everybody in that needs it.

Coach Pat Santoro:

12:56.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Oh, we got time.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I'm not a selfish eater. I mean, I'm I'll take what I can get and beat that in the Lord. So I appreciate it. Serious. I don't even know what it's for.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I do it. I love it. You guys are here. You're like, I don't even know what I'm doing. I'm just here.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I'm just watching. What would

Lehigh wrestler 3:

you dry need? It actually makes me feel so much better. It's actually insane.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Like, I don't know. I get a lot. What would be the reason for dry skin? So I'm open. Like, are you sore or is it like it?

Coach Pat Santoro:

I'm on the motion. They had to see next week.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

I don't know.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I've seen this. It makes your body feel better.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Alright. Elbow streak. Come up. Look straight up. Getting there.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

How that one feel?

Coach Pat Santoro:

It's better.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Can you do the warm up with them today? You will. Right? Me? Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Because I'll get you we'll give you some good posture chains. Yeah.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I'll be here.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And then I have some,

Coach Pat Santoro:

What time will that be?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

3:30, right when I start practice.

Coach Pat Santoro:

And, actually,

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I was gonna get strength, like, some strengthening exercise recommendations.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I'll take him all

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Maybe and I was gonna video it from your strength guy, but maybe we do that together.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Yeah.

Coach Pat Santoro:

That'd be great.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And then if we can just give him that.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Good. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

We got a nice deep blue.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Okay. They made on it. You're going. Tape around. I woke up with the box.

Coach Pat Santoro:

You said that's wrong. If you haven't got it,

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Hello.

Coach Pat Santoro:

How are you?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Good. How are you? Great.

Coach Pat Santoro:

That's it. You feel it?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It's junky in there.

Coach Pat Santoro:

That's great. How can you tell?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It feels sticky like a bar room floor.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Really? Mhmm.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Against the bone. That was the scapula. We were on the cuff. Right on the scapula. Here we go, brother.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

We're getting there. Right?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Feels so nice.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So let's try this and then do the external rotation.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Got it. That was good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So a little bit front there. So we're gonna hit anterior delt now.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Okay. Yeah. I feel so nice.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I'm so glad.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I haven't been able to do that forever.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Isn't it crazy?

Coach Pat Santoro:

I remember.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Do you ever do ball drops? Like, we'll do them today in the warm up.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Just like that.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So I actually need to ask Phil. I must have bring a little more cross balls.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Do you have all cross ball,

Coach Pat Santoro:

I believe.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Do you?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Bag. I might have Or,

Doctor JJ Thomas:

do you think all the guys have, like, tape in their bag?

Coach Pat Santoro:

I don't know if they all have tape. I love them. What's the what's the question?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So one of the exercises I wanted to have them do in their warm up is, like, ball drops, you know, for cuff. Got it. But I did I didn't bring a bunch of balls.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Use them

Lehigh wrestler 1:

to be

Doctor JJ Thomas:

But I was like, they could use tape or they could use, like

Lehigh wrestler 1:

We can do

Doctor JJ Thomas:

that. We could do that?

Coach Pat Santoro:

To the cross balls that kinda swap up, we can do a lot of roles to take them.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. And then they can just

Coach Pat Santoro:

all give it back to us. Is that cool? Yes.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. Thanks, Phil.

Coach Pat Santoro:

They won't get more across the ball.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And then, yeah, they could all wouldn't hurt for them to all keep that in their bag.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Restipation. There you go. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Good job. Let's see where we are. Elbow straight. Lift straight up.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Keep your up.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Let's go. Alright. What else? I want I want perfection here. I'm gonna get a little bit in this little trap.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. You can feel my back.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. You can see it, Right here.

Coach Pat Santoro:

And it's like, he

Lehigh wrestler 1:

he have,

Coach Pat Santoro:

like, mid back too. Just Right. That's those shots.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. He's really like So I'm gonna have you drop your right arm down.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Why is it, why is

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I saw

Coach Pat Santoro:

it like this side.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So part of it is this playing off each other. Like so here,

Lehigh wrestler 1:

I'll show

Coach Pat Santoro:

you when you stand. Cure.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You good?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Our tolerance.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Time to

Coach Pat Santoro:

be what? You said cure. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Alright.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Oh, my, like, real Shaz, I'm gonna

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Cramping up too now? Is it?

Coach Pat Santoro:

It was. Are you sure? I think it's good now. That would be. Yeah.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Me, it will. Have you guys planned? You know, we're about to go through an age. Oh, nice. Still You cook it up, Susan.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Cook it up, Susan. Oh, Oh, nice. Phil. Go get those scissors coming over again. Go get the one of the black paint.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Bring them up. Phil, you end up getting the That's so interesting.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It's crazy. Right?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Black and white. Yes. Yes. Yes. There was another Just

Doctor JJ Thomas:

do one more. And then I do wanna hit that back a little

Coach Pat Santoro:

bit. Okay. Yeah. Are those ones we just got? Yeah.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. I know how to do it. What did you, when did they do your You want to just put it back a little bit? Yeah. Teachers.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Alright. Give that overhead. Give it a try. Elbow straight. Look straight up.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yep. By the time

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Like it? Yep. K.

Coach Pat Santoro:

How old are you?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Let's do a retest in standing real quick. K. How you feel? Good. Good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Good. Together, like, down, just relax. Look down.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Feeling, but What were you saying by the time Look up?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

As far as you can touch behind. Way better. Right? Actually, I

Coach Pat Santoro:

see a spot in the front, though.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Straight back, chest stays up. Touch. Okay. I'm actually gonna do more on the shoulder rather than the back. Okay?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Because I think probably the shoulder for sticking in

Coach Pat Santoro:

the back anyway.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So you're gonna go face up right here.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Sure. Head up. As always, you can see those.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I can get that shoulder from the front now. Scoot down just a little towards your feet. Yep. Good.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Oh, it is your step? It's not bad, but it's not very good. But, like It's funny. I sleep like this. Yeah.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I just wanna make it up. Because, Sleep with your arms back? Dude, my shoulders are so uncomfortable. I, like, I can't find a comfortable position except on my back. I gotta I gotta, like, Yeah.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Sleep with my arms like this. Side. Yeah. Just one moment. I know you're joking.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. You got some big hug.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So you're basically shortening all the areas that are tight on you. You know what I'm saying?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Which is not good.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

It's not

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Well, no. I mean, but it's also it's you're doing it as a as a way of trying to make yourself feel better.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Comfortable. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Because when they're all tight, they're talking

Lehigh wrestler 1:

to you,

Doctor JJ Thomas:

and then you can't sleep.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. 72. So Did did you know that I'm coming to? The lowest the, It's so funny as athletes, you just kinda deal with pain.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You do.

Coach Pat Santoro:

You're like, oh, whatever. This is normal.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I know. What do you think you really feel

Coach Pat Santoro:

And just, like, accept the new norm. Your stuff that was. I haven't

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Well, you crave the you know, you love the sport so much.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Right. Even when I pump it down, it it It becomes such like a, normal thing. Like, we don't Yeah. Think about I'm

Doctor JJ Thomas:

sorry to interrupt.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

You know

Coach Pat Santoro:

what I mean? I don't think about, oh, I'm in chronic pain sometimes. It's like No. I know. I just think like, oh, this is my normal.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Wait. Oh,

Doctor JJ Thomas:

no. Exactly. But then

Coach Pat Santoro:

And then when someone when someone works on me, I'm like, oh, this is awesome.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

This is what I should feel like. I know.

Coach Pat Santoro:

This is not the pill.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

This is not the pill. This is true. Yeah. I'm gonna take you guys through a warm up. Well, I'll I'll be done here with Mike shortly, and then

Coach Pat Santoro:

Just gotta see over a little bit.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I don't know. You guys can wrestle off for who's next? That's good. That's better.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. It feels way better.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It's actually stayed there now.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

I feel

Coach Pat Santoro:

like my shoulder is actually touching the

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It's actually staying there. I'm like, before it was, like, boomeranging back. Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Are you practicing right now? No. Yeah. I feel better.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I feel better. I feel better. I feel better. I guess.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

No. Yeah. Yeah. I feel better. Tomorrow, we're doing

Lehigh wrestler 3:

no. Done? However many laps

Lehigh wrestler 1:

in 12

Coach Pat Santoro:

minutes or something like that. Sorry. That's way hard. Wait. Wait.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Wait. That's what it is. However many laps your That's It's gonna be, like, 1.8 miles. 2 6 minute miles. It's gonna be, like, 5 days I can do that.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. You could do that. I'm just gonna tell you. Yeah. I'm not.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I'm just not breathing. Be fast. Yeah. I mean, maybe if I was healthy.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. I love listening to

Coach Pat Santoro:

a room

Doctor JJ Thomas:

full of athletes talk. It's the best. It's like

Coach Pat Santoro:

They have nothing to be over here. Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be a different type of

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I like it. One more. Okay? Usually Look at that, baby.

Coach Pat Santoro:

But you're gonna

Doctor JJ Thomas:

have to

Lehigh wrestler 1:

So good. I'm gonna try to do a mile.

Coach Pat Santoro:

It's 5 minutes. Mhmm.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Yeah. Nothing else.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I hate I hate when there's, like, you've gone

Lehigh wrestler 1:

for a certain time or

Coach Pat Santoro:

rather just have

Lehigh wrestler 1:

a distance.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Because that means you're going fast. Like, I guess there will only be one group to, From my back a little bit.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. So lat attaches all the way down the pelvis.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Go around. Because if you have 40 people trying to run at the same time? A job. Never. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

My friend? Your head. Right? Yes. Oh.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Have you stand? I usually start. Cool. Right?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. Just to make it easier. It's nice. I'll start. Nice.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Nice. So you heard from from what I did to you yesterday? Good one. These guys got

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That's right. Let's do down and up. Great. Right and left. Perfect.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Straight up. That's behind. Much better. Down. Straight

Doctor JJ Thomas:

down. Straight back.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Touch. It's better too.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Arms overhead. Extend back.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Sorry, Dom. Extend back as far as you can.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yay. Ever so slightly less still with the shoulder, but the back is moving better

Coach Pat Santoro:

for it.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Palms facing front. Rotate right. Good. Come back to center. When you go left, make sure that right knee doesn't bend.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Did you cramp on the left hip again?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yep. You can do

Doctor JJ Thomas:

that. Go left. Perfect. See how much better you're moving? So you got, like, you gained, like, 20 degrees in that pelvis just from doing the shoulder.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Relax your arms.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Good. And then look down as far as you can. Great. And then look up as far as you can. Good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Come back to center. Look over your right shoulder as far as you can. It's okay. I do that too. Center.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You have pain with that? Or you're just like an achiever and you just wanna Yeah.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I understand you're just

Doctor JJ Thomas:

gonna do that. Go left as far as you can. So left is definitely tighter. Back to center. Right arm, elbow straight.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Go back as far as you can, just with the arm arm at first. From there touch behind to the opposite shoulder. Great. Back down, left arm same thing. Back as far as you can, elbow straight, touch behind, go back down.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Right arm straight back, chest stays up, touch behind to the opposite shoulder. Okay. Back to center, that one's a little sticky. Left side same thing. Oh, very sticky on that side.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. That left side, that left pec, come back to center, so that left pec is really pulling that shoulder forward. Take the left arm, cross it to the right. Now look left. See how much easier your neck moves?

Lehigh wrestler 3:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. Come back to center, put the left arm down, try to look left again. See how the left neck is like, oh, no way. Crazy. Right?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. Yeah. You thought I was full of it at first, didn't you? Yes. And then when you test it, you can't deny it.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So what that tells me is the muscles in the front of your shoulder are limiting your neck's ability. Yeah. So this is what I'm saying. Like, your neck is the thing that's not moving, but your pec is probably what's making that not move. So this is how we'll decide what to treat.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Okay?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Bend forward as far as you can. Keep your knees straight. Good. Come back up, and then this time I want you to squeeze my hand between your knees.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Okay.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. You won't hurt me. Squeeze squeeze squeeze squeeze. Keep it squeezed. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Keep it squeezed as

Coach Pat Santoro:

you bend. Keep it squeezed. Keep it squeezed. Keep it squeezed.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Keep it squeezed. Let your arms relax. Good. Come back up. They feel different or the same to you?

Coach Pat Santoro:

I think they felt the same.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Okay. Bend forward one more time. Yeah. Both have pretty good range. Come back up.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Arms overhead for me. Good. Extend back as far as you can. Keep your yep. And less time, let your hips come forward.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It's like really extend. Good. Back to center. Hands on your hips and extend again. Very different.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Come back to center. So feel how when your shoulders are up. So there's a different stability requirement that's highlighted when your shoulders are up.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So it helps us highlight where some stability deficits might be.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

So

Doctor JJ Thomas:

let's do right arm up, left hand on your hip, and extend back as far as you can. Awesome. Back to center, switch sides, and extend. And that's the one. So that left side, you end up forcing it because you're an achiever.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

But your left side makes it much more difficult. Right? So, again, we're pointing back to this left shoulder. Alright? So now let's look at, we did back extension.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Let's go face the doors for me. K. Feet together, palms facing front. Good. Rotate to the right.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Look behind me. Me. Good. And then go left. Cramp in there.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. I did cramp.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And then go left. Okay. Left hip is tight there. Come back to center. Okay.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

What's your lead like?

Coach Pat Santoro:

My right.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Okay.

Coach Pat Santoro:

And I switch

Lehigh wrestler 1:

a lot lot of times.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Okay. But usually right.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Okay. Let's go face me. Feet outside your hips. Arms overhead. Squat down as deep as possible.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Feet flat. Chest upright. Oh, that's pretty. That that doesn't get much prettier than that. That's really pretty.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Come back up.

Coach Pat Santoro:

He doesn't have knees. Yeah. I'm really flexible.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. But what's cool about that is you're able to maintain an upright chest, which is what most people can't do.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. That, that's really awesome. Okay. Feet under you, and now I want you to lift one knee as high as your hip and hold your balance. Good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Just as high as your hip.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I love you guys.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I love you're the best. Alright. Keep it right there for me. I'm gonna walk around you. Just stay just stay stable.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Try to straighten the left knee for me. Yeah. And then keep that right knee as high as your hip. Just right there. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Okay. Okay. Switch sides for me. Come out there. Stay.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Right knee straight. Yeah. There we go. So it's a little harder when you straighten the knee. Yeah?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Mhmm. Just because of it's not bad though. Can you switch to the other side again?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That side's a little harder, yes?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Can you tell? Don't wanna put words in your mouth. I'm sorry. It looks harder to me. Let's put you in half, Neil, to highlight it.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So you're gonna go, face me, come down on one knee. Yep. Now you're gonna take your front leg and walk it over so it's in line with this knee. Yep. Right there.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And then just try to keep the knee over the ankle, and then just hold relax your arms and hold your balance. Yeah. That's what I thought. So why don't we take we're taking the ankle compensations out of this Yeah. And it's a lot it's it's a difference.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It looks harder, and what I see is this right hip is elevating. So shut your eyes for me so we can see how your balance is in that position. Good. And then open eyes, and let's switch sides. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And then same thing, walk that over. Once you get there yep. Once you get there, find your balance, and just relax and shut your eyes. Oh, I was wrong about which one's harder, though. This one might be actually harder.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Oh, god. Relax. So let's lie up on the table face up.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Okay.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Is there anything so it's mostly when somebody takes you into that, like, strong internal rotation that you feel your hip

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And knee? Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

How are

Doctor JJ Thomas:

we doing on time, Luke? What's my time? 1:16. I have till 23, we said?

Coach Pat Santoro:

You have 11

Doctor JJ Thomas:

minutes. Thank you. Hold this oh, 27. Good. Hold that tight, and then let this just let this relax so I can just see what your range is like there.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Let's switch sides. Pull this up. Lock it down for me. Okay. I'm good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And you you were good with needling. Right? Yeah. With getting needled. Had you been needled before?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. I have, actually.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Okay. And where?

Lehigh wrestler 1:

So

Coach Pat Santoro:

it's for my hamstring, but they didn't do it in my hamstring. They did it in, like I don't even know where.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

What state? I don't know. Acupuncture?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. It might have acupuncture.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It probably was acupuncture. We only we mostly do the head in PT if we're doing, like, head, neck, and jaw stuff. Okay. But, it

Coach Pat Santoro:

goes behind the ear tool, maybe.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. So here's what you need to know, because everybody needles a little differently. Most people don't feel the needle go in. What you'll feel is a deep ache or a twitch in the muscle. It could be being flipped on the inside.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

This I am gonna start with this left side because it, it doesn't extend fully, so that's probably part of why it feels like it's locking up. Mhmm. When we lock down the pelvis, it just doesn't extend the seam, and then I'd like to do some on the right side as well, and then if we have any time but I'm gonna give you guys exercises today to work on this shoulder too,

Lehigh wrestler 1:

so I

Doctor JJ Thomas:

think I'll start with the hips, but we'll give you some stuff for the shoulders later, or maybe I'll treat the shoulders when you're back from class. Alright? You'll be sore in the muscles we need. The best thing for the soreness is movement. So, unfortunately, you're walking to class and then you're gonna sit, but at least you'll get to walk to class first.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Okay.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And then all my athletes recover fast, so you'll be sore still probably later when we're when we're when we're warming up. Mhmm. But once you start really, like, going live a little bit more, you'll you'll loosen.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Okay? Alright. So, Ryan, I'm gonna have you take this take your right hand and hold onto, this towel here. Just kinda hold it down for me. Okay.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Right there. Okay? If we can train out of, like so you'll hear my spiel when we do the

Lehigh wrestler 1:

the warm up thing, but

Doctor JJ Thomas:

in wrestling, you're using a lot of the same patterns of muscles all wrestling, you're using a lot of the same patterns of muscles all the time, and oftentimes, if we if we do a if we do a good job of training out of those patterns, then the muscles will relax.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So these don't stay in

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Mhmm.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

When I'm doing it this way, so it's in and out. One more there and then I'll chest your range again. Is this the hamstring that you were feeling it in?

Coach Pat Santoro:

I think I've hurt both of them, if I'm being honest. I don't know.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That's okay.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Let's see

Coach Pat Santoro:

if that changed it yet. Okay. Let's check this going off.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Alright. You can leave the towel there. Scoot all the way to the edge. I wanna see that hip flexor test. Yep.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Pull this guy up. Lock it down with both hands. Let this guy drop. Yeah. Feel how that goes now?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Too shitty. It's better.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Definitely does.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. It's kinda letting it fall now. So let's let's go to the other side. I'm gonna, I'm gonna actually can you just swing around, actually? It'll be faster than moving my stuff just like helicopter around, and we'll change the towel.

Coach Pat Santoro:

K. Now Okay.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Time check, Luke.

Coach Pat Santoro:

It's 122. Okay. Alright.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

5 minutes. That's perfect. Wait, let me check range again because I need a feel. This one was different. This one actually, scoot to the center.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I feel like I'm gonna there, let's go right there. No. I lied. I need you face down. So you're gonna go Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Just facing the hole right there. So, actually yeah. You're with me? So that left shoulder is definitely affecting this right hip, though. I would like to yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Because it's a oftentimes, a posterior chain has, like, slings.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So, like, this left shoulder helps, and this right glute stabilize the posterior chain together.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So, yeah, later if I can get at that shoulder, or at least hopefully through the exercises.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Okay.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Sweet.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. Let's, flip on your back for just one sec. Are we on time, Jared? 26. Good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Nailing it, nailing it. Drop that leg. This one was yeah, here we go. That's good. Go ahead and stand.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Alright. Feet together. I'm gonna come behind you, palms facing front. Rotate right, and rotate left. That's better.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Good. Right? It's amazing. Arms overhead, and extend back as far as you can. Good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Back to center. So that's better even though we still need to do something with that shoulder later. Yeah. And then just out of curiosity, look left. That's awesome.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That's better. And I didn't even do the shoulder.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

But it's better because I did the right hip, which is

Coach Pat Santoro:

gonna help

Doctor JJ Thomas:

the shoulder. Wow. Okay? Wrestlers have tight cuffs. Like, and we're gonna talk about that.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

The rotator cuff just gets abused because for two reasons. We'll talk about it in the warm up thing. But, so, when people have a hard time in the back squat position, it's oftentimes that.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. Cool.

Lehigh wrestler 3:

And then other things wrestling related, not on the top of my head, honestly. I guess sometimes, like, my hip is sore, like, after practice because

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 3:

Like, I kinda do the same thing Crookim does, not to his extent. Like, he's super flexible with it. Yeah. But I'm just, like When

Doctor JJ Thomas:

you get rotated?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Which is your lead leg?

Coach Pat Santoro:

This one.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Okay.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yep.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

But you get sore in that glute?

Lehigh wrestler 3:

Yeah. Because if they, like, shoot on this leg, like, sometimes I'm, like, twisting

Doctor JJ Thomas:

around and Got you. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Alright.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Let's look at your motion and see what comes up. Okay? So feet together. Shoes off for me. It just standardizes everything.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Okay. Yep. Good. Relax your arms. Can you do your shirt off, actually?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It'll help me see. Uh-oh. K. Look down.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. That's tough.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Good. Look up as far as you can. Good. Back to center. Look up again, but teeth teeth together.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Don't let

Lehigh wrestler 1:

your teeth

Coach Pat Santoro:

Teeth together?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. Don't let your mouth open. Good. Back to center. Look over your right shoulder.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Center and left shoulder. Good. Center. Right arm elbow straight, go straight up, back as far as you can. From there, touch behind to the opposite shoulder.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Good. Back down, left arm, same thing. Reach back as far as you can. Yeah. That one in particular is tight.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And back down. They're both a little tight in range. Straight back, chest stays up. Keep that chest up, and touch behind. So pecs are really pulling you forward.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You can feel that. Right? Come out of it, and then do this side. Touch, pecs. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Let's do this. Take your right arm, cross it across to the left, look over your right shoulder, good, back to center, put your right arm down, look look right. Oh, they're about the same. Left side, yep, look left. Back to center.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Drop the arm down. Look left. That one's maybe a little different. Okay. Go ahead and bend forward.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Keep looking. Let your arms hang, knees straight. Oh, boy. They're a little tight. Back up.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So squeeze, keep your feet to get, like, a little closer. Squeeze my hand. Yep. Keep it squeezed and bent. Keep it squeezed, keep it squeezed, keep it squeezed.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Different, right? Come back up. So do it again without the squeeze, so just bend forward. I don't know, not that different actually. Squeeze one more time.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Keep it squeezed as you bend. Is it easier when you squeeze?

Lehigh wrestler 3:

I don't think so.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

It's okay, you should know. So if it's a I don't know then it's a no. Arms overhead, arms overhead, both arms. Extend back as far as you can. Like let your hips come forward.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Back to center. Here, face the other way. I wanna show you guys what I'm looking at.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Like this way?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yep. Because the left you can see the left remember I said the left shoulder was tighter. Bring your feet together. Good. Arms overhead, extend back as far as you can.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

See how his left arm hangs behind? Mhmm. Right? So this shoulder is affecting his back. Come back to center.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So, right arm up overhead, left hand on your hips.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Wait. It's bad that it's going farther down?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Or No. The left arm is getting stuck. It's like not going back. Mhmm. So go back now.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

You're the only O character. It's right.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That's right. Back to center and then switch them. Yeah. See how that one gets blocked? Like when the left arm is up.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So this left arm is really important. This may be part of what's affecting your hip. So let's do palms facing front, and then rotate to the right. Look behind me. And then rotate to the left.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. That and and I do see that too. So your right leg, right, but left glute does get funny. Okay. Go left one more time so I can remember that number for next time I retest you.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Come back to center. Your right knee bent on that. Let keep your knees straight. They can rotate but not bend. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So So we're like 15 degrees there. And that one

Coach Pat Santoro:

I can rotate way more than that.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Right. See the difference? And left, you get like blocked. Yeah. So we're gonna treat the shoulder first.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You want needles?

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Yeah. Sure.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Are you fine with that? Okay.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Whatever.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So, yeah. So here's what to what you need to know. Most people don't feel the needle go in.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Mhmm.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

When it's in there, you'll feel a deep ache or a twitch in the muscle. It'll feel like you're being flicked on the inside. Right. That's the part that most people are like, oh, it's a little weird. And then by the time you have time to process it, it'll be out.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Right. In and out, in and out, and then we retest. Alright. Alright? Sounds good.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You'll be sore in those muscles, but the best thing for soreness is movement, so go on and training is gonna be good. Alright. Alright?

Coach Pat Santoro:

So you're gonna go face down in the hole.

Lehigh wrestler 3:

Look, my bad.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You're good. In this position, elbow straight here. Thumb up, lift straight up as high as you can. See how, like, you have much more available range than your arm's able to recruit? Go one more time.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That was better that time. Elbow straight here. Go straight up. Still a little deficit. And then here, elbow on me, rotate up.

Lehigh wrestler 3:

Like that?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Elbow 90 Yeah. Yeah. But keep the elbow on me. Yeah. Same thing there.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So that's your muscles aren't recruiting through their full range. So I'm gonna try to change that for you. Where are you from?

Lehigh wrestler 3:

Roxbury, New Jersey. I think North Jersey.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 3:

Pretty close.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Awesome. I treat a lot of wrestlers. My boys wrestle. I have a junior in high school and a, and an 8th grader. And I love I love the sport.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Ready?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Don't do.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Hi. How are you?

Coach Pat Santoro:

I'm well. How are you?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Good.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Doing well. Mhmm.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Like I'm doing well? Jesus

Lehigh wrestler 1:

again. Oh.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Here we go. Felt that one. Mhmm. So that's cuff more. The first one first two were lat.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

This one's really getting into the cuff now.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

Are you doing great?

Coach Pat Santoro:

I mean, I'm alive. I'm doing great.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Good job.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I'm doing 12. I'm 10. I'm 12. Yeah. My head is Yeah.

Coach Pat Santoro:

You put a real up there. Try to relax for just a second.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You pressed your adult super tight.

Coach Pat Santoro:

It's like from the other child who plays. Good job. Let's see where we are. So elbows straight overhead.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

My arm straight. Elbow straight. Yeah. And lift straight up. Easier.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Right? Mhmm. And then elbow on knee. Way easier. Wow.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That was almost too easy, bud. I do wanna just do this long head to tricep a little bit, and you'll be almost done. And then we'll see if that hip cleared up, and if not, we'll do that hip. Okay? Mhmm.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Good job.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Good. Stand up. Yep. Makes you sweat. Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Alright. So we'll stand in the same place we were. Yep. Feet together. Look down.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Look up.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Got a huge chest there.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Center. Look right.

Coach Pat Santoro:

How do you go?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

There it is. That looks better. Yeah? Mhmm. Look left.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Awesome. Center. Left arm straight up. Touch behind. Is he alright?

Coach Pat Santoro:

Mhmm.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Come back down. Let's do both arms up overhead. Yeah. He's doing great. And extend back.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Good. That arm's doing you feel how now you can move.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. Let's face that way. Right? If it's good well I'm

Coach Pat Santoro:

a hold, though. I was like

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Nah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You did great. Turn around that way.

Coach Pat Santoro:

He's a leg okay. Good here.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Feet together? That's right. One of his arms got stuck. Rotate right.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Did you do that?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

And rotate left.

Coach Pat Santoro:

How'd it feel?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Better, but we should do it a little bit.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Do what?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Just treat that hip. Yeah. Down. Sound good? Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So go face down.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

I had

Coach Pat Santoro:

a bad cat somewhere that's

Lehigh wrestler 2:

like started seeing it in my hip. I've been a project worker.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

He test don't worry. He tested me out before he let me

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Yeah.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Before he let me.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Did you slap?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You guys.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I did.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

It was

Lehigh wrestler 2:

good. Good, though. Right?

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Oh, yeah.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I can't the only thing I say, it doesn't hurt, but it's not comfortable. Is

Lehigh wrestler 2:

I don't know.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

I don't

Coach Pat Santoro:

do curls in my arm. I don't got much, Mike. I got this new grip thing. That's why I grabbed you as my partner because I know you're gonna delicate with me. Is that a grip thing, Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

How do

Lehigh wrestler 2:

you like it?

Coach Pat Santoro:

I figured

Lehigh wrestler 2:

Does it measure it so you can tell?

Coach Pat Santoro:

So it's got the difference of pressure.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Oh, good job, brave.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Pounds on both sides. It goes Oh, good job, breathe.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

The pounds on

Coach Pat Santoro:

both sides. That's it goes with

Lehigh wrestler 1:

the 90

Coach Pat Santoro:

kilos or a 100

Lehigh wrestler 1:

kilos. That's pretty good.

Coach Pat Santoro:

And, Yeah. I definitely feel like I already had the pre shell grip, but I feel like this is just getting

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Are you,

Lehigh wrestler 3:

like, blowing air into it? Is that what's

Doctor JJ Thomas:

happening? No. That's cool, though. That's a cool thought.

Coach Pat Santoro:

The fact that she's using

Lehigh wrestler 2:

an 18 inch needle on your back is crazy.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Do you feel it coming out your stomach?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

You know he's getting. Right?

Coach Pat Santoro:

As a tear comes out of that.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. That is nobody's ever asked me

Coach Pat Santoro:

that, like, but I could see where it would feel like that.

Lehigh wrestler 3:

It feels like you're, like, blowing air into it. That's

Coach Pat Santoro:

Like, pressure. Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 1:

To me, it

Lehigh wrestler 2:

feels like electric stim. Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 3:

Of course it's stannage.

Coach Pat Santoro:

What up, Stannie?

Lehigh wrestler 2:

I think it feels like a like, it feels like the electric stim. Right? Like, your your muscle, like

Lehigh wrestler 1:

Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

It twitches. Twitches. I'm amazed that it does that.

Coach Pat Santoro:

So it's like you can do the regular?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Really? So it's crazy because it's a spinal it, the twitch response is a spinal cord reflex. Sometimes you'll get a twitch on the opposite side.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

That's crazy.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Yeah. That's when it's really crazy. People are like, I just felt that on my right glutes.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

So when you hit me today, the whole thing went. I felt like Yeah. I was like

Doctor JJ Thomas:

On the TFL, I think

Lehigh wrestler 1:

it was.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Right? Because

Lehigh wrestler 2:

usually, like, a little pump.

Coach Pat Santoro:

No matching in there. I think 2 more, Luke. We should be good. That's a crazy device. Yeah.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I was in there. Where'd you get that? Amazon? Amazon. Amazon's the best.

Coach Pat Santoro:

I bought everything. I saw the little I buy my dry needle on Amazon. Is that bad that I do it all myself?

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Don't don't joke. I have jujitsu athletes that, like, get peptides on Amazon,

Lehigh wrestler 1:

I think.

Coach Pat Santoro:

That just sounds scary.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I don't know if

Coach Pat Santoro:

it's actually Amazon, but it's online. And you're not sure if it's actually peptides.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Yeah. Exactly.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

That was pretty good, Calvin. Point.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Yeah. Well, it's like this is easy. But once she gets, like, here,

Lehigh wrestler 3:

then it gets hard.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Last one, Luke. Good job.

Coach Pat Santoro:

Do the, palms and grip. You sweating, Luke? I love that. Yep.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

These are harder than the shoulder.

Coach Pat Santoro:

She did his last year.

Lehigh wrestler 2:

You helped him make weight the last pound.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

That's true. Yeah. Alright. Go ahead and stand and do that rotation and see how it is.

Coach Pat Santoro:

So my right when I said it doesn't hurt, but it's not comfortable. Right.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

So Yeah.

Lehigh wrestler 3:

Definitely not comfortable.

Coach Pat Santoro:

That's the best way I can explain it.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Face away from me. I just wanna see that rotation. Feet together. Palms facing front. Keep the knees straight.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

Rotate but let them rotate but not bend. Rotate right. And left. Better. Good job.

Doctor JJ Thomas:

I know.