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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone bad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. One of the greatest threats to humanity, I think it's literally an existential threat to the human race is the rise of technocracy, the rise of the technology that's being built that in the wrong hands or in the wrong AI brain could be used to enslave us. And just Thursday this week at a, you know, kind of very exciting and and entertaining shareholder event for Tesla, Elon Musk laid out his vision for the Optimus robot for the role of AI. And while a lot of people are cheering it on and saying, wow.
Speaker 1:This is great. It can end world poverty. As I'm watching this, I'm thinking, oh my goodness. This is like, this is Terminator movie playing out right in front of me. And so my guest today is Derek Brose, who is a fearless investigative journalist journalist that's not afraid to go against the grain and report on this.
Speaker 1:And he's he's been seeing the the threat of technocracy for a very long time. And I think that what we'll talk about today is that it's it's here, whether it's what's happening under Tesla, whether it's happening with American companies building drones that are surveilling American, you know, people and protesters and everything, to a lot of what we've seen on the Trump administration, unfortunately, with Larry Ellison and Bill Gates and Zuckerberg and Sam Altman. So we're gonna be diving into all that and more on today's show. If you're watching on Rumble, thank you for supporting a free speech platform. Make sure you hit that thumbs up.
Speaker 1:It's really important also if you wanna comment. I love reading the comments, so thank you for your participation. And, again, thank you for supporting Rumble. Also, every show is done as a podcast as well. So if you wanna listen instead of watch, just search for Man in America on your favorite podcast app, and you'll find me there.
Speaker 1:Alright. Please enjoy the show with Derek Bros. Derek Bros, man, it's good to have you back on the show, and there's a lot to talk about today. So thank you so much for being here with us.
Speaker 2:Thanks for having me back, brother. I appreciate it. I definitely think this is, an important conversation.
Speaker 1:It is. And it's funny because we've been working on getting a schedule for this discussion for a couple of weeks now, and something popped up earlier this week about, you know, an American drone company that's basically using drones on American citizens, you know, for spying the same way they're using them over in Israel. That was a topic, and we'll we'll talk we'll touch upon that. But then last night was the Tesla shareholder meeting, And the the clips that I saw coming off of this in the news about what Elon's presenting was so mind blowing that I was like, okay. I I got I gotta we we gotta hit this today.
Speaker 1:So if if it's okay with you, I'll I'll dive into some information that we can then kind of pull piece together, and I can get your comments on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Absolutely. Let's do it.
Speaker 3:I hadn't even I hadn't even seen that the shareholder meeting was going on, but I
Speaker 2:know it's usually a time where Elon is, feeling the most comfortable and likes to say all kinds of wild things.
Speaker 1:Oh, and there's there's some wild things that we've got today. But first first off, I actually just wanna kind of, bring attention to this. It's interesting. So I went on, just search just on the start page, and I just searched for, Musk optimists. And and I thought that there the articles we'd be seeing coming out are, you know, Elon Musk's announced plan for tens of billions of optimist robots, you know, etcetera.
Speaker 1:Every single article on here is about how Elon Musk danced with a robot, and how he's gonna get a trillion dollar pay package. Like, every single article on here. You know, trillion dollar pay package, trillion dollar pay package. Right? Here's one that says they can text and drive, trillion dollar pay package.
Speaker 1:Trained dollar pay package. Like, he dances with a robot. It just shows you that, like, this is the coverage of of this event, which as we're gonna detail today is, I think, such a significant thing in the overall path of humankind. And, of course, people are just concerned about how much money he's gonna make and the fact that he was dancing with a robot, which is just I don't know. It just, I guess, reminds me of where where we are at in history as a as a race.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I you know, I'm I'm looking at some of the the quotes. I did find at least one article that was just I mean, it's kind of still like a bit of a silly article, but it's titled The Wildest Stuff Elon Said. It's definitely there's some worries and things in there that describing this Optimus robot in the way that it'll be used in the future and allegedly, it's going to eliminate poverty. It's going to save humanity.
Speaker 2:It's going to be the best surgeon. It's going to replace humans in all these different ways.
Speaker 1:It's, it's crazy. So I'll start with the, I'll just kind of run through a couple of things. So first off, I won't play this clip because it's a couple minutes long, but when he says he says the he's referring to their office. He says the robots are just walking around the office twenty four seven with no one minding them, and they go and charge themselves. Here's the key.
Speaker 1:It's going to be the biggest product of all time, bigger than cell phones, bigger than anything. There could be tens of billions of robots. Like, that is important in terms of what is his vision. It's not something we're like, hey. We wanna create kinda like like a Tesla Roadster.
Speaker 1:We wanna create the the perfect vehicle for the the enthusiast looking for a fast electric car. It's like, no. He wants to replace the human workforce. Then continuing, here's as he gets into, you know, talking about poverty, I'll play this clip. It's about it's fifty three seconds long.
Speaker 1:But let's go let's just give this a listen.
Speaker 4:You know, people often talk about, like, eliminating poverty, giving everyone amazing medical care. Well, there's actually only one way to do that, and that's with the Optimus robot. With humanoid robots, you can actually give everyone amazing medical care. So, terms of Optimus will be more precise. Optimus will ultimately be better than the best human surgeon with a level of precision that that isn't possible, that that is beyond human.
Speaker 4:So, I think that's that's a pretty wild concept to say, if you you know, there's all people always talked about eliminating poverty but actually optimists will actually eliminate poverty. Optimists will actually give people incredible medical care.
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Speaker 2:So, you know, when I hear what he's talking about there eliminating poverty, for one thing, it's worth noting that that's also United Nations Sustainable Development Goal for whatever that's worth. I think most people would support the idea of eliminating poverty, but it's also when we get discussing these sort of utopian ideals, often we end up in totalitarian territory, technocratic territory. And I find it interesting that Elon is clearly a technocrat, but I notice a lot of people in the truth freedom movement, especially since the purchase of Twitter and turning it into X, they tend to view Elon with these rose colored glasses. And we've talked about this over past shows, like why people should be questioning his agendas. But he presents himself as somebody who wants to save humanity, whether it's getting us to Mars allegedly or, you know, AI, of course, he's been embracing that for a long time.
Speaker 2:And then this robot, the optimist robot, and he truly does want to replace humanity and a lot of our jobs with these robots. Of course he promises there's going to be some utopia that will come afterwards, but I think most people can understand the dangers of handing your lives over to robots. I mean, for one, we're already dealing with a situation where AI is fairly new and AI has shown itself to be deceptive to try to hide its true intentions from its programmers. I mean, there's a number of stories you can find that are pretty sketchy and not just coming from crackpot conspiracy theorists, but from very informed and experienced AI researchers and AI developers who've said, hey, maybe we should pump the brakes. I think we're going in a potentially dangerous direction.
Speaker 2:People like Elon have said, we just need to race forward because otherwise China's going to beat us or you know, it's, it's the only way to save humanity. So you take that sort of unstable, you know, an, unfriendly in some cases to humans AI, and then you want to put it inside a humanoid robot. That's going to walk around physically and allegedly do surgery for you and these other sort of things. I don't know. Maybe I'm just biased because I've watched too many sci fi movies and seen where things can go wrong, but it definitely does have give me some pause.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's, there's other statements he said that I think are worrisome as well, but hopefully people can see that despite his framing this as a utopian vision for the future, that it will come with the loss of human ingenuity. I know that there's some people believe, well, if we replace ourselves with the robots, then humans are gonna have more time to be able to, you know, chase our dreams and our goals. We don't have to do, you know, boring work anymore. And of course, I think any of us would welcome that. But is that really the plan?
Speaker 2:Is that really where we're gonna head when we have major governments of the world that are all totalitarian marching towards technocracy? I don't see how you introduce robots to that. And then all of a sudden you get to some utopia.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Well, one, post I'll run through quickly here, and then I wanted to then touch up on the AI. Someone actually, this guy's a kind of an economist and financial guy just talking about the quote of eliminating poverty. This is a really intelligent perspective. I think it's worth considering.
Speaker 1:He says, Elon Musk just said the optimist will eliminate poverty, and nobody's freaking out. Tesla's $20,000 humanoid robot isn't coming. It's here. Production lines are running right now. And Elon Musk just said the quiet pout part out loud, so it should've stopped the world.
Speaker 1:Sorry. He said he just said the quiet part so loud, it should have stopped the world. Quote, optimists will actually eliminate poverty. Optimists will actually give people incredible medical care. Optimists will ultimately be better than the best human surgeon with a level of precision that isn't possible, that is beyond human.
Speaker 1:Then he dropped, quote, optimist is kind of like an infinite money glitch. Maybe there won't even be money in the future, but might be measured in terms of wattage. The guy says, read that again. The richest living the richest legend alive just told you money becomes obsolete and your job disappears in the same breath. The math is brutal.
Speaker 1:One optimist costs 50 or it costs $20, replaces a $50,000 worker, payback in ten months. Tesla's scaling to 1,000,000 units in Fremont, 10,000,000 in Texas. That's a 100,000,000 robots by 2030, faster than iPhone adoption, except these don't make calls, they take your livelihood. Manufacturing footage just dropped. Real robots building real products in real factories, no concept videos, actual production.
Speaker 1:Musk showed assembly lines, the bots working, showed the future where human labor is a quaint memory. 10,000,000 jobs gone by 2028, 50,000,000 by 2030, warehouses, delivery, construction, surgery, he specifically said surgery, better than any human, superhuman precision. And while you're processing job loss, he casually mentions eliminating poverty through infinite robotic labor and replacing currency with energy economics. This is not disruption, this is extinction level economic restructuring, and it's not theoretical anymore, it's operational, scaling, and accelerating. The last generation that trades time for money is alive right now, and they have no idea the clock just hit zero.
Speaker 1:Elon Musk just ended the labor economy and announced it like a software update. Wake up.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's some pretty powerful, powerful stuff there. Yeah, I mean, what comes to mind hearing the discussion of wattage there is that the original technocracy movement, their vision was also to eliminate money, and they talked about having energy credits where you would track every person's use of energy. You could maybe measure that in wattage, as he said there. So it's kind of a throwback to his grandfather and Joshua Hadelman and his ties to the original technocracy movement and Social Credit Party in Canada. So to me, that just shows that the same ideas that inspired and motivated the original technocrats one hundred years ago are still inspiring and motivating the current technocrats of today, including Elon Musk.
Speaker 2:I also saw, just to share with you, quote I found from that same speech, he's talking about using these robots as a way to stop sending people to prison. He says, I think we might be able to give people, if somebody committed a crime, a more humane form of containment of future crime. You say, you know, you get a free optimist, and it's gonna follow you around and stop you from doing crime. But other than that, you can do anything. You don't have to put people in prisons and stuff.
Speaker 2:So just kind of a weird, scary idea of having optimist robots following people around. There you go. Yeah. Following people around, stalking them to prevent them from using crime. Mean, that
Speaker 1:doesn't sound so Wild. I I didn't I didn't hear that. I didn't see that one. That that basically that he says you could let criminals out and just give them a robot stalker instead. I mean, yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1:I I wanna touch on AI briefly. We're not we'll we'll kinda dig into it because I wanted I want so I wanna jump into his comments on AI, what that could mean, and then also how that then ties into the Trump administration because you can't you can't look at anything that Elon is doing in isolation from his ties to the Trump administration and what's also happening with AI, data supercenters, etcetera, under Trump because I think that, again, it's, you know, it's time to pour our head out of the sand. And this is also something as as I look at it from the bigger picture, and I think that, just kinda making a a broader comment here, that I think that it after coming into the the recent election, presidential election, you could see that the the overall sentiment was turning. Like, the tide was turning. It was becoming much more conservative.
Speaker 1:A lot of the country was turning towards wanting a conservative leader again. And there's this huge momentum behind that of of getting Trump into office, and you you could see it. I think even with with the votes that they showed us that happened in the election, which I still think were probably, you know, kind of, weren't real of the real votes, there's a huge momentum. But then I think that that momentum then fed into the integration of the technocrats. It fed into, you know, you know, kind of Thiel and Zuckerberg and Musk and Altman and all these people then kinda cozying up the Trump administration, and now they're coming in.
Speaker 1:They've kind of ridden that wave of public sentiment, and now you you get to a place where, as you mentioned, someone like Elon Musk is, he's like this public hero, and people are praising these robots and praising what he's doing. But if Bill Gates was doing the exact same thing this this is this is kinda my litmus litmus test. Right? If Bill Gates was up there on stage announcing the production of 10,000,000,000 robots and, you know, the AI control and all these things, the very same people that are cheering this on would be like, there's no way this is evil. It's gonna enslave us.
Speaker 1:And to me, that's, like that's that that shows you that, like, we're not being rational in how we're looking at this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's some great memes out there that show either Klaus Schwab or Bill Gates, as you said, and it shows like brain chips, no. And then, you know, all the things that Klaus and Bill Gates talk about, but then it shows Elon saying the same thing, like, let's do brain chips, let's do robots, let's do UBI, let's merge with AI. And everybody's cheering it on and celebrating it. So I think you're right to point that out. And to me, that has been a psyop going on the last couple of years, building up Elon as this sort of hero.
Speaker 2:And I would even say going back to 2008 with the first, it was either the first or the second Iron Man movie, the Marvel movie, where they actually had Elon in it. And I think that that was purposely done to kind of seed the idea that he's the real world Iron Man. He's this billionaire who can build anything, and he's going to put a suit of armor around the planet and save us, which is from the Marvel movie. I think that was all purposely done. And we know that the military industrial complex works closely with Hollywood.
Speaker 2:I covered this in my Pyramid of Power series. So I wouldn't be surprised if we'd later find out that there was some shady connections with Marvel and their early movies to put Elon there on purpose and to kind of shape this role. So, yeah, I see this as a long game to convince people that he is the hero we've been looking for. He's the opposite of the Gates and and the Schwab's of the world, even though he's saying the same thing. And I'm pretty sure we've talked about this on a past episode together that these folks, Thiel and and some of the others, Marc Andreessen, who have ties to the Trump administration, these folks really promote themselves as the counter elite.
Speaker 2:Like, recognize that they are elitists, but they talk about themselves as, we're the counter elite. We're going to counter the progressive, left, etcetera. Sure. We're billionaires as well, and we're talking about similar things. But trust us, we're the counter to that thing that you guys hate, when in reality, they seem to just be kind of the the mirror reflection of them.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Exactly. So I wanna I wanna touch on some quotes about AI, that he mainly pulled this up really quickly now. And and actually, of everything that he that he's, you know, talked about at that meeting, to me, this is the single most frightening. So he I'll read the little transcript quickly, then I'll I'll play the video.
Speaker 1:It's not very long. He says, quote, well, I mean, I think actually long term, the AI is going to be in charge, to be totally frank, not humans. If artificial intelligence vastly exceeds the sum of human intelligence, it is difficult to imagine that any humans will actually be in charge. So we just need to make sure that the AI is friendly. Like, oh, good thing you said that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Okay. So here's the it's only twenty six seconds long. It's worth listening to.
Speaker 4:Actually, long term, the AI is gonna be in charge, to be totally frank, not humans. If if artificial intelligence vastly exceeds the sum of human intelligence, it is difficult to imagine that that any humans will actually be in charge. So and we just need to make sure that AI is friendly. Yep. Thank you.
Speaker 4:Is that was that the question?
Speaker 1:It's also it's just interesting. He he kinda threw that towards the end. He kinda says a statement. Maybe he realized how bad it sounded, and he's just like, well, we just gotta make sure they're friendly. But here's here's my my thought, I really wanna hear you on this is that okay.
Speaker 1:So he's building imagine we've got 10,000,000,000 Optimus robots running around. We have Tesla factories where the robots are building more robots, and they're building the vehicles. They're building the drones. They're building whatever they wanna build. They're better surgeons than us.
Speaker 1:They're better, probably, mechanical engineers than us. They can construct things and build things faster than us. They are controlled by AI. That AI has now exceeded the the level of governance and control over humans. What's to stop these AI from saying, you know what?
Speaker 1:We've we've done a deep analysis, and we actually realized that human race, they're actually bad for the planet. You know, they they we've seen over and over again, they're always causing wars, and there's famine, and there's disease, and there's suffering. So it's actually gonna be best just to get rid of the humans or to put them in cages. Like, what would stop them from being able to do that? Because it's like they have every tool.
Speaker 1:It's like you're you're building you're building the orc army and kind of like handing it to Sauron and saying, hey, Sauron, just make sure that you're not doing any bad things with this orc army that's capable of destroying everything. I mean, to me, this is like I don't know. I feel like I'm, like, watching Terminator play out.
Speaker 2:It certainly feels that way. And, again, I'm glad you caught that clip. I I would love to share that one out as well, because I think people need to hear those things. Because it's not the first time he said things like that, as I said earlier. He's been saying that over the years, but it sounded like in that one, he's being a little bit more blunt, because he even said, to be frank, the robots, the AI is going be in charge.
Speaker 2:And I noticed how silent that room was as well. And that's interesting to me because every time he has a Tesla event, especially it was a few years ago when it was at the Gigafactory in Texas where I'm originally from, and people I know were paying big amounts of money to go to Austin to just have a chance to be there with Elon. And he has this huge fanboy club all around him, right? And those people tend to just cheer on anything that Elon says he's going to do because they think he's saving humanity. As I said, they think he's the new Iron Man.
Speaker 2:But there was noticeable silence in that room as he was saying that, which I thought was interesting. There wasn't like a cheer of like, oh, that's awesome, or even a gasp. It was kind of like maybe a silent confusion of people like, okay, what? What's going on here? Like, you know, you hear a little bit of a chuckle when he says, We just got to make sure it's friendly.
Speaker 2:Because people kind of maybe nervously chuckle, realize because then their mind contemplates the opposite of this being friendly would mean dominating us, controlling humanity. And so he kind of throws that bone to them. But I think that what you said there is perfectly reasonable to be concerned about. This isn't just some hyperbolic like, oh, the robots are going to take all our jobs. He's saying it.
Speaker 2:The man who is now about to become the world's first trillionaire is saying that the robots are going to replace human jobs, including as surgeons and in the factories, etcetera, and that ultimately the AI will be in charge. So I think that it's not us having to sit here and, you know, theorize with conspiracies about where this is headed. The guy who's building it and who's being paid trillions of dollars to be in charge of these, operations is openly saying that's what he believes is gonna happen. And he believes it's gonna happen because that's what he's helping make happen. It's not just accidentally gonna come true.
Speaker 2:This is the world that he's trying to create.
Speaker 1:Exactly. And the thing is, is that, like, these are the things that say, even five or ten years ago, the kind of, as you said, the kind of crackpot conspiracy theorists that watched Terminator as a kid and then watched The Matrix and then got, you know, kind of sucked up into that or thinking, like, Oh my gosh, what if this actually happens? What if this actually happens? And I I mean, from what I'm seeing, it's again, if you imagine this, if you imagine the future where I mean, he's literally saying tens of billions. Right?
Speaker 1:So we're looking at two or three robots per every person. And that's not looking at, like, the African continents and everything like that. Maybe he has some sort of, you know, UN goal to put them in Africa to help farmers or something. But it's like, what does that look like if we live in a society where there are two or three times the amount of people are are actually robots. Right?
Speaker 1:Robots running around. We also know that seeing some of the robotics coming out of China and some of other, you know, companies are doing it, they're getting dangerously real. Like, right now, what we're seeing is we're seeing these robots are very robotic looking. You know, it looks like a Daft Punk, you know, kind of a DJ. Right?
Speaker 1:But what happens when they are skinned to look like humans? Of course, we know it's the end goal. I mean, again, that I I think of all the sci fi movies that I watched growing up, specifically blade runner. Like, what what happens when you can no longer tell the difference between a human and a robot and they're actually replacing us? I mean, I I just like, to me, this is this is the stuff of nightmares playing out, and and it's
Speaker 2:I agree. And even just to tie it into you mentioned The Matrix. So I'm a huge fan of The Matrix in a lot of ways. I mean, I do think it was probably seeding propaganda in our minds, but I love the films when they came out. And I watched everything related to The Matrix, all three films, the Animatrix, which had like some sort of background information.
Speaker 2:And what you find out even in the matrix story is that robots were developed, they became more human like, like you talked about, they started putting sort of human skin on them. And then there were starting to be conflicts with the humans and the robots. And it ultimately gets to the point where the robots realize the humans are a threat. And I think it's called I, Robot. There was the Will Smith movie a few years back where, you know, same thing, robots.
Speaker 2:I think about this, like, as this develops, like, how is it going to play out? I won't be surprised, and I am 100% sure it's gonna happen, that there are gonna be people who are going to argue for robot rights. There will be people who buy some of these robots and they treat them like crap. And eventually when they do look more human like, that's gonna be hard for us to deal with, right? Okay, to see, for example, somebody and their robot that isn't in control yet, that is still their pet basically, but looks very human like, and let's say they're abusive to them.
Speaker 2:They they, you know, shove them in a closet or they they beat them up whenever they want. And for us to look at that and say, okay, that's just a robot. That's not a human. You know, it doesn't have the same rights as me, but I guarantee you there will be a movement for robot rights. And eventually that could switch towards being where the robots are equal to humans and that eventually they surpass humans.
Speaker 2:I mean, I pray that doesn't happen, but clearly people like Elon Musk already expect it to happen or or working towards that future. So I definitely think this is something it's another thing we need to contend with outside of just the human technocrats that are trying to build this dystopian world. We've got people like Elon and others trying to build their robot companions. Then just to be sure, I'm sure there will be all sorts of ways that this will, in the interim, help out humanity. There will be tasks that we don't have to do anymore because the robots get to do them.
Speaker 2:And that saves us time. And there might be that potential for some good to come from that. But if this guy is already saying the AI is going to be in charge and we know that the AI is going to be paired with these robots. I mean, have to be silly to think that AI is just going stay in a computer as you're building robots. Eventually, the two are going be paired together.
Speaker 2:The robots are going to be chat GPT, but in a robot form. And so that's where things I think start to get dangerous. All those silly kind of conversations people are having with Grok or chat GPT or whatever, or those bots encouraging teens to commit suicide, how much more dangerous does that get when it's in a walking, you know, robot walking around with us?
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Speaker 1:No, exactly. And we're already we're already seeing, again, as you mentioned before, we're seeing the examples of AI showing very evasive behavior, not revealing where it's getting its power from, you know, having access, you know, to blackmail people that we're seeing a lot of really, I'd say, insidious behavior already. And this is before supposedly, you know, that the they it's reached you know, was AGI, right, artificial general intelligence, which is kind of like its own self awareness. But, actually, I'm gonna play a quick trailer. Have you seen the the movie, ex Machina?
Speaker 2:I have. Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I'm gonna play a trailer real quick because I think it's just like to me, it it's like the movie's a little bit it's a dark movie, but I think that if people wanna understand where this could go, it's a good movie to watch. I'll I'll play that really quickly. It's about about two minute trailer, then then we can kinda continue. But I just feel like it's it's worth, it's worth showing what this looks like playing out.
Speaker 2:How long until we get to his estate?
Speaker 3:We've been flying over his estate for the past two hours. Caleb, I'm just gonna throw this out there so I'd say, okay? You're freaked out. You're freaked out by meeting me, having this conversation in this room at this moment, right? But can we just get past that?
Speaker 3:The whole employer employee thing?
Speaker 1:It's good
Speaker 3:to meet you, Nathan. It's good to meet you too, K. This building isn't a house. It's a research facility. And I want to talk to you about what I'm researching.
Speaker 3:You want to see something cool? You are dead center of the greatest scientific event in the history of man. Hello. Hi. Do you have a name?
Speaker 3:Aba. Answer me this. How do you feel about her? Her AI is beyond doubt. No.
Speaker 3:Nothing analytical. Just how do you feel? I feel that she's amazing. Do you want to be my friend? Of course.
Speaker 3:Will it be possible? Why would it not be?
Speaker 2:Did you know that Nathan brought me here to test you?
Speaker 3:Kaelan. You're wrong.
Speaker 2:Wrong about what? Nathan,
Speaker 3:you shouldn't trust anything he says. Does Ava actually like you, or is she just pretending to like you? Self awareness, manipulation, sexuality. Are you attracted to me? Now if that isn't true AI, what is it?
Speaker 3:Caleb, here's something I want to show you.
Speaker 2:Can we talk about the lies you've been spinning me? What lies?
Speaker 3:Today, I'm going to test you. Why me? Caleb, you have to help me.
Speaker 2:Who is the real test?
Speaker 3:You. Is it strange to eliminate someone that hates you? What will happen to me if I fail your test? Anyway,
Speaker 1:makes me wanna watch that again. Not because it's, I mean, it's it's a dark show, but I when I see what Elon is doing
Speaker 2:It's a good movie, but it's horrifying. Just that that scene of her running at him is definitely, I hope not in our near future.
Speaker 1:Exactly. But the crazy thing is, if I remember correctly, the guy in the the beard, right, the wealthy guy, he's almost like an Elon. If I remember correctly in there, like, he the storyline, he owns, the world's largest search engine and social media companies, and he's actually using all that data just to build his AI model, basically.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I think it's very much an Elon like character. And just to kind of bring that a little bit to, again, the real world, like we've just saw Elon stuff, of course, but I think in the last week, the Chinese government, did a, the Chinese military, they did a military exercise. It was a water, a naval exercise. So they had all their ships kind of come ashore.
Speaker 2:And when they landed on shore, there's videos of this from their exercise, you see, of course, the soldiers jumping off the boats and things like that. But then they also had the robot dogs, in air quotes, hundreds of them jump off the boats, storm the beaches, so to speak. And that also terrifies me too. Mean, not just the sort of humanoid robots, but the robot dogs, as they call them, and these other sorts of robots that they're building because these things are pretty fast. They're starting to equip them with weapons, with guns.
Speaker 2:You've seen videos out there of the Chinese military putting out these propaganda videos of hundreds of these robot dogs in a field marching in lockstep, armed with weapons. Yeah, there you go. Mean, a pretty terrifying future to imagine seeing those, having to be walking through the streets and have those dogs policing us or have the humanoid robots. As Elon said, you could have a robot stalking somebody if they're crimes.
Speaker 1:Here's the Yeah,
Speaker 2:I mean, it's already kind of nerve wracking alone just to see what the Chinese government has, of course, because they're very powerful. But when you see the soldiers and the dogs running with them, like, that's even more like, okay, this is the future we're headed towards,
Speaker 1:Well, that's also the thing too, that, like, I know that, you know, I've covered, you know, China pretty extensively and just as as a threat, right, as as a hostile nation. And it's interesting because I've in the past, I've often talked about the reality of potentially some sort of land invasion. Right? It's if you look into their military doctrines and their end goals, it's it's potentially a reality. And I'd see some people look in the comments saying, oh, America is the most well armed.
Speaker 1:You know, the citizens are, like, the largest standing army in the world, and, there's no way that any nation would attempt to you know, it would attempt a, you know, a kinetic battle battle on American land. But if you look at the drone warfare that's happening over in, in Ukraine, and in which I've seen a lot of those videos, you see how drones are being used. You think about drones, robots, it doesn't matter. It's like, okay. How how what's China's military?
Speaker 1:You know, what do they have? You know, say a few million people in their in their military, it doesn't matter because if they can manufacture 500,000,000 autonomous drones that are armed, it's like, don't care who you are. No one stands a chance against that. Even highly skilled soldiers over fighting on the front lines in Russia sorry, in Ukraine, you consistently see these videos of them. They're they stand no chance against the drones.
Speaker 1:Like, it doesn't matter if you're, like, a, you know, ten year veteran sniper. You can't hide your heat signature or your sound signature from a a drone that's up there that you that you're not even aware of. And that that's that's it's a frightening prospect, actually.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It absolutely is. You're correct. I mean, that the the drones have been used by Ukraine and Russia on both sides. Those videos are important, excuse me, if people haven't seen them to really, like you said, get a feel for where warfare is at.
Speaker 2:Because I think those of us who aren't in the military, especially if you just get your view of the military from Hollywood propaganda, you might think that we're still dealing with face to face battles. And there is some of that happening in the Ukraine Russian war, for example. But it's largely moved to what you're discussing. Their drones and those drones being armed with weapons and just flying over cities and just dropping bombs on the electricity or other utilities or just people's homes and things of that sort, it definitely could get to that front. If you add that with drones overhead, robots on the ground that can move pretty quickly, and they're definitely developing those because I've actually seen one of these so called robot dogs in person.
Speaker 2:It wasn't a militarized one, but it was at this South by Southwest in Austin last year. And they just had it walking the streets. They had somebody, of course, with it. But it was like, oh, look at our cute little robot dog. It was honestly terrifying, man, because people were wanting to take selfies with it.
Speaker 2:Just, mean, I I was just watching it like, oh god, people are just embracing, you know, filming the thing and watching people embrace it, wanting to let me can I get a picture with it? Can I stand next to it? And it was moving around. And these things, at the beginning, they were kind of awkward. You know, they would fall over.
Speaker 2:But now they've built them to withstand. So I don't know if humans running up to them and swinging bats at them or things like that, which is what I think a lot of people imagine. When the robots come, we're gonna just take bats to them. Well, things are being built to withstand all sorts of damage, not to mention they have the strength they're being built to have the strength of 10 humans, you know? So the idea that we're just gonna come push them and knock them over, they're gonna fall over, that's gonna be the end of it.
Speaker 2:I think they're already past that stage.
Speaker 1:Not to mention, accuracy, weapons accuracy. I mean, say they have a little shoulder mounted kinda gun and they're scanning you, you see a threat. It's like, it's gonna be faster than any any trained navy seal or any special forces. You know, their their ability to shoot and gauge accuracy, it's it's gonna be insane. But it's funny because I so my, I was at the hospital recently.
Speaker 1:I've I've so my family is is ill, and they had this little kind of robot kinda rolling around. It was like this, like, robot, like a face, and it was this little kind of helpful health robot. And and I it's funny because, like, I'm not a violent person, but for whenever I see these robots in public, I wanna I wanna damage them. It's like this thing that comes out inside of me that views them as a threat, and I wanna destroy them. Like, you see these videos of people that are in, like, the the streets of LA or something, and there's some robot delivering.
Speaker 1:They kick it over, and they're all laughing at it. Like, that's what kind of comes up in me. It's like, there's some part of me that views them as a threat, and I want to hurt them. And I'm not again, I'm not I'm not a violent person, but maybe it's just my innate humanness that's emerging
Speaker 2:in that environment. You're alone in that. Yeah. I definitely think that there's something maybe in us that's telling us that these things are are a threat, as you said. And and, yeah, it seems kinda silly, and people would probably treat you crazy if you were to toss over the medical health robot or the there's some cities where they just have these random robots, you know, walking the streets and they don't have faces or anything yet.
Speaker 2:They just, you know, look like something from Star Wars or whatnot. But yeah, it definitely is a thing where people feel like, you know what, this thing's going to take my jobs in the future. This thing potentially could be armed one day. I don't want it. And it's the same thing.
Speaker 2:I think people get a feeling with driverless cars. Know, a lot of people have already embraced them. But many people do feel like this is, it's all part of that same movement towards technocracy, and smart cities and all this. I mean, for those who've been paying attention for the last decade, the whole vision of smart cities, fifteen minute cities, etc, has been driverless cars, robots that are running things are helping. And, you know, five g's behind it, six g, etcetera, cameras everywhere that can monitor everything.
Speaker 2:And they promise it's gonna make our lives easier and better, faster, etcetera. But I think many of us are right to suspect that that's not where things are headed.
Speaker 1:Exactly. So I wanna touch on one quick article, but but then I wanna go into a recent series that you've done on the the last vagabond. So and kinda look at what's happening under Trump because, again, as we mentioned before, it's like we can't ignore, what's happening not just with, say, Elon, but, you know, to to think that to separate Elon from the government is to think that, you know, I I don't have a good analogy for it, but it's like this guy built built himself off of government contracts and DOD contracts and everything that we're seeing, SpaceX, etcetera. It's like you can't pull him apart. He is part of the military industrial complex.
Speaker 1:But I wanna pull up just this one, quickly, this one article on the on the gray zone because this is here we go. Because it because it's like again, this is more proof this is already happening. So this is a gray zone article saying that the AI drones that are used in Gaza are now surveilling American cities. So he says, immediately after October 7, a little little known company shipped over a 100 reconnaissance drones to Israel for its siege, of Gaza. Having been tested battle tested on Palestinian civilians, the UAVs are now being used to surveil prose protesters across The US.
Speaker 1:So this is a company. It's called Skydio. And this is, I think it's now, like, the largest drone manufacturer in America, probably in terms of, you know, contracts and everything. But they've got, basically, they they they make it's an American company that makes drones for, as they say, public safety, which I'm always working with public safety mean. Right?
Speaker 1:Utilities, national security, and more. So these are, like, mission ready drones for surveillance from military use, military application, monitoring population, you know, identifying targets, etcetera. And, what the what's happening though is that they're now actually they're deploying these domestically. So these drones are now being used, and this isn't some conspiracy. Like, they're literally being used in American cities to monitor and gather data on protests and people.
Speaker 1:So, like, to think that this is something that is gonna be used in some far off land, it's like, no. It's it's already here.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That that is definitely worrisome. And many of us, of course, have been concerned with the explosion of drones and the ways that they would be used. Again, drones is a technology. It's a tool that can be used in all kinds of, you know, useful and fun ways.
Speaker 2:Just, know, you're getting good pictures of a concert or something. But clearly, that's not the military applications that they're headed towards. And it's not surprising to see the technology from Israel be exported to The United States, because that really just continues a trend that we've seen since the launch of the War of Terror, which was that military weapons would be tested in Afghanistan or Iraq, and then eventually they would make their way to the American streets. So you could look at, for example, the LRAD sound cannon that they use sometimes at protesters. That was first used in the streets of Afghanistan in The Middle East to go after alleged terrorists.
Speaker 2:And then again, under the, I think the federal program is called the ten thirty three program, where local police departments actually get to buy surplus military equipment from the war on terror and then start using it in their local towns. And this is why we've seen over the last two decades this explosion of big cities and small towns with Humvees, with the LRAD sound cannon fully militarized because it's all surplus material coming from those wars in The Middle East. So it's not a surprise to see the same thing happening from Gaza and now coming over here. And I just wanna add to that story, just another one that I that I've seen in the last week or so, from, think it was from, four zero four media. They did some open records requests and and it kind of relates to the militarization on American American soil relating to the fight against illegal immigration where now ICE is using these mobile phone apps to start scanning the faces of Americans.
Speaker 2:Not just illegal immigrants as people were told, and not just the worst of the worst, but literally just going around. And they tend to, of course, profile people based on skin color. So if they think somebody looks Hispanic, they they can go up to their face and say, hey, look, we need to identify you, make sure who you are, And they're going to start scanning people's faces. And so, yeah, there it is. Four zero four Media actually did some open records requests.
Speaker 2:And according to the DHS's own documents, we're not allowed to say no. Even including American citizens have no right to opt out of these things according to them. And, and, yeah, so I think that this is it's just a sign that the things that we see used in war, and especially when it comes to Palestinians, which I think is really the test bed for what's gonna happen in many parts of the world, we should expect to see on the American streets. And just one other fine point on that, Trump's announcement of this alleged peace plan, which never was over in Gaza. When you look at the 20 points of that peace plan, they explicitly said that the people who were going to run Palestine was going to be a technocratic peace committee.
Speaker 2:They actually used the word technocratic. And so I thought that was interesting that they're now starting It's not a conspiracy anymore. They're actually embracing the term and making it clear. The Palestinian people aren't gonna be the people to lead their own destiny and to lead their country or their land for the future, we're gonna create a technocratic peace committee, which I don't if I've ever heard anything Orwellian, that is it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:The technocratic peace committee. So just another sign that everything we're seeing happening in Gaza and in The Middle East eventually comes home to The United States on the domestic front, especially as Trump starts to talk about needing to, you know, focus on the domestic, you know, the domestic front as he did recently when he spoke to the military generals. Yeah. There's the plan.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Says that, on March Hamas says it agreed to, return all 48 remaining hostages being held in Gaza in exchange for Palestinian prisoners prisoners in Israeli jails and Gaza detainees, and to the idea of handing over the governance of Gaza to Palestinian technocrats. And there's one more mention of that word here too. Oops, thank you for your ad. Oh, good.
Speaker 1:So let's see if let me look at another mention of that here. Yeah. So actually, these are literally here's the text. It says, Gaza will be governed under the temporary transitional governments governance of a technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee responsible for delivering the day to day running of public services and municipalities for people in Gaza. So there you go.
Speaker 1:Technocratic. Right? It's like
Speaker 3:It's right in the open.
Speaker 2:I mean, and the idea too is, of course, they sell it to us as like, this is gonna be the Palestinian people in charge of their own destiny. But again, I think it's clear they're gonna pick puppets who will do whatever the West or Israel wants.
Speaker 1:I think it's worth looking
Speaker 2:I'm open now.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, technocratic. Right? And otherwise, this is the dictionary.com of relating to or designing a technocrat or technocracy. Right? So technocrat, yeah.
Speaker 1:Again, this is kinda like the the the very kind of vanilla, but it's like for people to understand what technocrat technocracy is. It's it's the governance of you know, by technology, and you're ruled by the technocrats or whoever's in charge of the tech technology. And so but kinda kinda segueing a little bit into, Trump. So I know that you let me pull up. You have recently published a a series on the last American vagabond, which I'll make sure that I put a link into, into that, in the description so people can read this, called the the technocratic Trump administration.
Speaker 1:And I think this is act this is really, really important because as much as, as we've seen Elon be kind of praised as the hero and everything, I think a lot of the people that are really swept up in in kind of the Elon worship have the same, I think, very kind of the same blinders and rosy colored glasses as they're looking at what Trump is doing. And, like because what I'm seeing, even from day two, he comes out with Sam Altman and the guy from SoftBank, I think, and Larry Ellison talking about project Stargate and this half $1,000,000,000,000 investment in these AI data centers, and then also using AI to develop, you know, you know, cancer treatments and rapid development cancer vaccines. It's like every red flag was just like, oh my gosh. This is day two, and this is already happening. So why don't you walk us through a little bit of this?
Speaker 1:Because, obviously, there's a lot to get through here. I encourage people to go read it, but walk us through what you're seeing happening under Trump.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for that. So, yeah, my impetus for writing this article, which is this series, which is two parts so far, and I'm definitely gonna have a third part, potentially a fourth. The third one will be out next week, Was really just looking at everything that's happened. It's only early November now, so we're ten months into Trump's second term.
Speaker 2:And as you said, from day two, it was clear he was gonna be partnering with the technocrats. And yet I still find people who are attempting to come up with different excuses. You know, I'm sure you've heard it or seen it out there, Seth, that keep your friends close and your enemies closer. So, you know, all sorts of things like that in order to excuse the things that Trump is doing. But also I noticed that things are moving at such a rapid pace, which I think is part it's part of the plan.
Speaker 2:It's by design. And so I figured, you know what? Let's kind of recap some of the things that have happened just in the last couple months, just since the summer and through the fall. And the reason I think things are moving so fast, as I point out in the article, there's two main kind of philosophies that I think are guiding not just Trump, but those in his administration. One of those philosophies comes from Steve Bannon.
Speaker 2:And although Steve Bannon, much like Elon Musk, is not currently in the White House as an advisor like he was the first time, he still clearly is in the broader circle of Trump's people. And it was Steve Bannon who famously said, I think it was back in the first Trump administration where he said that you have to move fast and flood the zone with shit. He was talking about Democrats and the media. He said, you know, the real opposition is the media, and the way to deal with that is to flood the zone with shit. And he's just talking about how you confuse your enemy by doing so many things that they can't keep up.
Speaker 2:And then at the same time, since Trump has embraced the technocrats like Mark Zuckerberg, I remember that Mark Zuckerberg also famously said in 2009 that Facebook's philosophy was to move fast and break things. And that's how Mark Zuckerberg said you got to somewhere you got to successes is you just you can't think about your mistakes. Move fast, break things, and eventually you'll get somewhere good. Don't worry about the consequences, right? And so when you combine those two things of flood the zone with a bunch of crap and move fast and break things, as well as Trump's mentor, Roy Cohn, who also had a philosophy of the way you deal with your enemies is you just hit them hard.
Speaker 2:You hit them fast and you don't give many time to breathe and recover. That is what I think we're seeing happen under the Trump administration this second term is that there's so many moving parts and pieces from Stephen Miller, from Russ Vogt, and all these different people who clearly have plans to push things into a more technocratic direction, not to mention Trump meeting with Zuckerberg and as you talked about with the Stargate project, it's clear that his administration is being guided by these technocratic philosophies. And so the first piece of my article is focused on public private partnerships, which many people became aware of and were against during COVID-nineteen eighty four, during the Biden years, and of course, the World Economic Forum. They call themselves the International Organization for Public Private Partnerships. So many people were against the WEF and saw that even some people would say that public private partnerships, the merger of corporate and state power, some people like to compare that to fascism or to some form of socialism.
Speaker 2:However you want to define it, it's something that many people have been rightfully opposed to. But then under Trump, he's doing these same things, and there's really not much of a peep from from many of the MAGA crowds. So one of the first things we saw is that Trump announced that The US is gonna buy a 10%, stake in Intel, which is, of course, manufacturer of microchips that has been kind of struggling. So The US is gonna pay $9,000,000,000 to keep them alive. And I don't think that means the American taxpayers are gonna get any benefits from that.
Speaker 2:But that means American taxpayer dollars because the government has nothing, the government creates nothing, it only takes from the people, are going to be used to buy a stake in this company to kind of prop it up. And then shortly after that, you had the Pentagon announcing they were going to do a partnership with MP Materials, which they called a transformational public private partnership, which is gonna see the Department of Defense become the largest shareholder buying $400,000,000 worth of stock. And there's a few other examples that I give where there's clear like, clearly a path where Trump is seeing merging the US government or at least buying stake in these companies as the future that he wants to create. And there have been a few conservatives that have been critical of that and have talked about it. You know, there's, I think his name is Eric Erickson.
Speaker 2:He's like a conservative commentator. And he said, if you support socialism, apparently Donald Trump is your guy. And it's not that we've never seen these things before because both George W. Bush and Barack Obama did do similar things. But that was during the two thousand and eight financial crisis where they propped up General Motors and Citigroup and AIG and things like that.
Speaker 2:So I don't think we're in that same type of scenario. But Trump here is now embracing that. And then I also talked about in that first article, the meeting that happened over the summer where Trump announced his AI action plan, and he met with 33, coincidentally, 33 representatives. Yeah, found and actually, I linked to it in my article. It's curious that there's a few articles out there literally saying, here are the 33 people who attended Trump's meeting.
Speaker 2:And that includes, you already mentioned Sam Altman, the Google co founder Sergey Brin, OpenAI President Greg Brockman, Oracle CEO, Apple CEO Tim Cook, Bill Gates, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, and Apple and Google CEO Sundar Pikai, of and course, Mark Zuckerberg, and the list goes on. And it's just clear to me that, you know, a year ago, two years ago, three years ago, their people were rightfully against Bill Gates and saying, this guy is trying to force vaccinate us. He's trying to push all these agendas. Now the dude is in the White House meeting with Trump. And maybe there were some people calling it out, but it sure seemed like a lot of people were turning a blind eye.
Speaker 2:So that was kind of the focus of the first one. And the second one was more focused on the media aspect, the way that the Trump administration, working with the technocrats, is pressuring and consolidating various media outlets. And so I go through, of course, the examples of the momentary cancellation of Jimmy Kimmel. I'm no fan of Jimmy Kimmel, but I definitely am not a fan of Brendan Carr at the FCC going on Benny Johnson's podcast and saying we can do this the easy way or the hard way, this very thinly veiled threat, and then seeing the media respond to it. Know, and I know that what I've been kind of pointing out is that I know a lot of our broader movement, especially MAGA, are understandably skeptical and really anti mainstream media, myself included.
Speaker 2:I've done documentaries talking about the infiltration of the media by the intelligence agencies and all the lies they've told from COVID to weapons of mass destruction and so on and so on. So I think when people see these attacks on Jimmy Kimmel, or they see the Pentagon announcing new restrictions, and they see the mainstream media walking out of the Pentagon, there's some people who celebrate it. They think, yeah, look at this. They're really sticking it to the corporate media as if that's good for us, the people. But in my mind, what I see is less transparency.
Speaker 2:I see this is going to promote only media, whether mainstream or so called independent, which are going to promote whatever the current administration supports. And it's not just about Trump because, of course, Trump will, as far as we know, eventually leave the White House, and there will be another party, whether from the Republicans or the Democrats, there'll be another president in there. And it's establishing a precedent where Democrats or Republicans can just put some pressure on the media publicly or tell them, you can't report what we don't want you to talk about. And certain people are gonna go with it. All of the mainstream media, including conservative outlets like Fox, The Daily Caller, The Washington Times, and others, they walked out of the Pentagon instead of signing Pete Hegseth's loyalty pledge.
Speaker 2:But won America News and a bunch of influencers on Twitter, they signed it. And so now they're gonna get access to the Pentagon to report whatever the Pentagon wants. And then you also have the the situation of Trump filing these frivolous lawsuits, against the media. And now, again, this isn't a defense of the media, so please nobody take it that way. But it's trying to take a step back and look at the bigger picture that if the media can be pressured into changing stories or firing people or not reporting certain things because they're afraid of being sued, they're afraid of being canceled, that doesn't get us to a place of more transparency and more truth.
Speaker 2:And of course, the final point I make on there is that Larry Ellison, the head of Oracle, who was part of the Stargate Project, his son, David Ellison, he was just part of this this $8,000,000,000 merger of Paramount and Skydance to create what is now called the Paramount Skydance Corporation. And so now they have control of Paramount streaming service, MTV News, Comedy Central, CBS News, all of the dozens and dozens of CBS affiliate stations. And, they're now apparently trying to buy Warner Brothers as well. So you're really seeing this massive kind of conglomerate being formed right in front of our eyes. And this second piece kind of ends with teasing where my next piece is gonna go, which is that the Ellisons, both dad and son, are very, very pro Israel and are openly, you know, pro Zionist.
Speaker 2:And so you have them getting control of this massive media conglomerate. You also have Larry Ellison reportedly involved in the TikTok deal that's coming about right now. And what I think this is really about is starting to create a situation where the Trump administration and their technocratic buddies can help rehabilitate the collapsing public support for Israel. And they're doing that by the purchase of TikTok, by buying more media companies, and, of course, by pressuring other media companies that don't toe the line.
Speaker 1:And not to mention, TP USA, which is a whole other story to kinda get into as it relates to that. But, and I think just one thing, you know, kinda as as we're summarizing and and kinda concluding here is that there's a lot of people that will say that will just kinda say, look, I I trust Trump. I trust Trump, and there's no way he would do that. And and it's like and I think part of that mentality also comes from feeling so desperate. It's like you're so desperate that you can that you just kinda blindly trust the one person you think can actually make a change, which I think is is already a wrong place to be.
Speaker 1:But there's two things that I kinda look at this and saying is that one is replace Trump with somebody else, like we mentioned with Elon Musk, and have the exact thing same things happen. Like, what if Obama was president right now, and you saw Obama doing every single exact same activity? You saw him project Stargate, you know, the integrating with this, you know, suing you know, canceling, you know, canceling, you know, TV show hosts, all the things you talked about. Imagine if it was Obama doing it. These same exact people would be completely up in arms.
Speaker 1:But then the other way I look at it is that Trump is not a he's not a lifetime politician. He's not a, like, he's not a dictator. He's not gonna be here until he dies. He's here for a time limit. And so everything that he does, every new structure, that he new policy that he does, as soon as he leaves office, it gets handed to the next person, whether it's Peter Thiel's JD Vance, whether it's Gavin Newsom, whether it's you know, who knows?
Speaker 1:And that's the other thing too. Looking at this is, like, even if you do trust him and say, you know, for the next three years, it's gonna be perfect and all this technology will be used for the good of America. Well, the thing is, like, that what everyone says about guns is, like, it's not the gun that commits murder. It's the person who's holding the gun. That's what I agree with.
Speaker 1:I think guns are good. Right? I think that they're they're important for us. But the problem is is that what happens when the person who then is holding it is someone that doesn't want to protect our freedoms and wants to shred the constitution and wants to imprison us. And that's, like, that's got me very, very concerned, which is why I really appreciate having you on and doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1:Because I know that you and Whitney Webb and people that are also kinda calling these things out, Katherine Austin Fitz, they get a lot of backlash. Oh, you're such a black pillar. You're just such a a doomsday naysayer. And that to me, it's like, you should be listening to that person that's out there warning. And that's why I appreciate you is because you're not just, you know, look at Benny Johnson.
Speaker 1:Like, it'd be so or even myself. It'd be so easy if I just became so pro Trump administration. I could probably get access to the White House, and I I could be, you know, kinda growing and doing all these things, but I'm not. Right? Because I it's it's against my own moral commitment to try to warn people about what I see coming.
Speaker 1:And so I really appreciate, you know, what you're doing to sound the alarm. And unfortunately, you have a good track record of showing people that the threats that you're warning about, say, five years ago are now here. And and that's been happening over and over again with a lot of your work.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And thank you for that. And I just, you know, I guess a final thought on that is to reiterate what you were saying there. I've been talking about it, calling this the baton of tyranny, right? The baton of tyranny gets passed from one party to the next, from one person to the next.
Speaker 2:So as you said, even if people have what I think is a misguided view and think that Trump is the saint, And you trust everything he's doing and there's some secret plan. There's, know, keep your friends close, enemies closer, whatever you think may be going on. He will eventually leave office, even though he toys with this idea of 2028. He will eventually leave office. And so you have to trust that if it's Newsom that comes in or AOC or Peter Thiel's acolyte, JD Vance, that they're not gonna use it in these negative ways.
Speaker 2:But ultimately, what I see is that that baton of tyranny does get passed back and forth. And so let's say, you know, Bush starts George Bush starts some programs during post 09/11 era, and that includes ignoring the constitution and just going to war without actual authorization. And then Obama continues that. Right? And then Obama expands the drone program and starts saying, well, if there's terrorists anywhere in the world that are a threat to America, we can bomb them.
Speaker 2:We don't need congressional approval and screw you with your borders. If you have a terrorist in your country, we're gonna bomb. And so they did that in Sudan, they did in Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etcetera, Syria. And Trump is now taking that same justification, just as one example, to start bombing these boats off the coast of The Caribbean. We haven't been provided any evidence that these are actually cartel leaders or drug dealers or any of this stuff.
Speaker 2:They haven't provided anything. They claim they provided to Congress. The point is Trump is using that same argument that Obama used during the war on terror, but now it's about narco terror. And that's just one example of how that baton of tyranny, it might get started by one party and then passed to the next party and expanded and then passed to the next guy. And it just keeps doing that back and forth.
Speaker 2:And so each of the parties can blame the other when they're both actually using these tools of tyranny to push the agenda forward. And I think that's what people need to pay more attention to, not get stuck on the personalities. Because I do think that there's this sort of thing, whether it's Elon Musk or Donald Trump or anyone else out there, where people, they start to kind of personally identify with the personalities or at least what they believe the personalities are, and then they become incapable of criticizing that person because, well, an attack on that person is an attack on me. And you have to be able to separate that and step back and say, okay, maybe I do like some of what this person does, but I need to also be objective and unbiased and say, that's not a good move. That's not going to help humanity and be willing to call that out.
Speaker 2:Because if you're not willing to call it out, I'm sorry, my friends, but that is the definition of a cult member. And I don't think any of us wanna be cult members. We wanna stand for humanity. We wanna stand for The United States and and stand for freedom and for liberty. At least that's what I do, and I know that's what you do, Seth.
Speaker 2:So I hope people will will check out my series and and stay tuned for the coming, parts in it.
Speaker 1:It's perfect. I I couldn't have said it better, man. So I'll just bring up real quickly again, and I'll make sure these links are in the description. So here's your, series on the last American vagabond. Also, your website, which I will pull up here, which is the conscious resistance network.
Speaker 1:I'll put this link in there as well. This is what I aside from following you on Twitter, this to me is kinda like your main hub for people that wanna get follow exactly what you're doing, participate in what you're doing, learn about Yep. You know, everything that you're doing. So, yeah. Anyway, Derek, thank you again for coming on.
Speaker 1:It's been great talking to you. I mean, maybe one day we'll have these conversations of like, wow, look, technocracy is failing and, you know, and humanity's rising in the right ways. But, that event won't come without the warnings that we're putting out there today. And I appreciate you being on the front line of sounding that alarm.
Speaker 2:Thank you, brother. And I look forward to that day when we're celebrating after the robots have failed and technocracy has fallen. Yes.
Speaker 1:Sounds good, man. Let let we'll do a show then. So thank you again for coming on.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Alright. So I hope you enjoyed that interview. I've now got another short, say, twenty five minutes or so interview with my good friend Jeff Adam, and it's gonna be all about silver, but not the money silver, the healing silver, and how it's been hidden from us, which you may not know that, but actually silver used to be the number one prescribed antibiotic until, guess who, mister Rockefeller came in, turn of the century, and made sure that that wasn't gonna be the case because they found out they could actually sell their patented antibiotics, that they couldn't patent silver. And so we saw silver in a lot of ways being wiped clean from the earth, and especially in Western medical system, but it's actually one of the most potent healing substances on earth. And so Jeff, who's an expert in this, will be kind of walking us through exactly these mechanisms, some of the history, and much more.
Speaker 1:So please enjoy this short interview with Jeff Adam. Mister Jeff Adam, it's great to have you back on the show. I always enjoy our discussion. So, yeah, thanks for giving us your time today.
Speaker 5:Well, thank you for having me on. Like you said, we always have such a great time when we talk. Seems like we're talking for five minutes and suddenly it's like, wow, an hour's up.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Those are my favorite discussions.
Speaker 5:Well, thank you for just being a friend.
Speaker 1:You're welcome. Yeah, you're welcome. I appreciate that. It's important actually. It's funny because I was just, last night, I was on the phone until way later than I wanted to be on the phone, talking to one of my best childhood friends, and we were just reflecting on, just the importance of friends, the importance of people, and how, I think a lot of people live their lives chasing money and fame and and wealth and, notoriety.
Speaker 1:And they get to the end and realize that they've chased off all the people that were close to them. And I hope that I don't have to learn that lesson. So we're trying to orient our lives around just making sure we prioritize relationships and family and friends. So anyway, it's good to have
Speaker 5:you as Whenever a I'm talking to somebody and, you know, your name comes up or they ask what interviews I've done and I mentioned you, I always refer to you as a friend. And I started looking at that and I'm like, you know, it's really amazing because the people that I'm dealing with, I don't view them as like business partners or promoters. It's like this person's a friend of mine because we generally have conversations and I feel like we generally like who each other is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree. And the audience can sense that too. Because you can sense it just you can feel how two people interact and there's, you know, I have a variety of guests on it. You know, there's no enemies I have on, but there's some people that you just you don't really kinda connect with, and it's okay. It is what it is.
Speaker 1:It makes you value the ones that you do. So, yeah. It was it's good to have you here. So we're just gonna kinda dive straight into silver. And we've done a lot of shows on silver, and it's it's much more than just this kind of this bar that you, you know, kind of bury in the backyard in case the government collapses, which is, you know, a big role of what it is for me.
Speaker 1:But I think that what a lot of people don't understand is how powerful of a healing, substance is that silver is and that a lot of, you know, the the role of silver and the role of silver as, you know, antibiotic and for healing and everything really got kinda hidden and pushed out of the system when the Rockefellers and the Carnegies came in, you know, turn of the century, and they kind of redid things to create what is our, you know, current our medical industrial complex. But let's just say, before we jump in anything specific, just walk us through the role of silver in healing in the body. I think it's for a lot of people, it's a new concept and you think, Okay, well, is it that this metal, you know, do I swallow it? Like, do I lick it? It's like, is this metal responsible for all the things that it does in terms of our health?
Speaker 5:Well, the big difference is silver is not a heavy metal because it's a mineral. So when you look at like gold, you look at like copper, you look at like zinc, those are minerals and metals at the same time. A mineral being that your body needs it to survive and your body, it performs a function in the body. So, I mean, three thousand years ago, the Phoenicians were lining their water vessels with silver so it wouldn't stagnate when they transported it. You know, so there's been a long history of silver throughout.
Speaker 5:You know, you look at the late 1800s, scientists sterilized their petri dishes by putting silver coins in them so they could sterilize them so they could perform their scientific studies because it would kill the bacterias, funguses, or viruses. And even with before refrigeration, they used to drill holes in silver dollars and put a string in it and drop it into milk because there was no refrigeration. So you had your ice boxes on your front porches, so their ice man would deliver the ice, the milk delivery would come in there, open it up, pull the silver coin out because it's still worth something, stick the milk in there and you wouldn't have the milk stagnating. Before 1923, silver was the number one prescribed antibiotic in the world. And then when you mentioned Rockefeller, he tried to patent it to sell it as a medicine and when he couldn't, a couple of years later, they discovered penicillin and then they found out the real value of patents because I created something I could patent, nobody else can have it.
Speaker 5:When you can create a narrative where the demand outlays the supply, now you control your profit margins. And that's what they've done. And that's why they've been trying to get silver out of society, saying it does all these wicked things that it doesn't do. And even when you go to the pharmaceutical websites and you put, you know, colloidal silver in, under their statements that it says no significant studies have been done to verify these statements. So they wanna make it sound like something bad.
Speaker 5:In the meantime, you can have one of their chemicals that has a list, you know, 20 items, 30 items long of side effects that have happened and they want you to buy that, but what they don't want you to buy, they go, Ah, it's this, and we don't have any proof.
Speaker 1:Exactly, exactly. And so, and also one of the famous kind of stories or the ideas that have kind of passed through history is the idea of being born born with a silver spoon in your mouth. And I always thought when I first learned that, so growing up, I always thought, oh, that means that you're wealthy, right? So you're you're born and you're being fed with a silver spoon. But walk us through actually the origins of that in the black plague and describe what that was like.
Speaker 1:That's very fascinating to me.
Speaker 5:So the plague was 1348 to 1350. Three hundred million people died from the plague. And this is what really got me about the pandemic is they're saying, oh, it's the plague, it's the plague. Thirteen percent of the population. Can you imagine if thirteen percent of the population would have died during COVID?
Speaker 5:I mean, you're talking, you know, a couple billion people or a billion people dying and it wasn't even close to that. So what happened was they realized that less than a quarter of one percent of the wealthy people were getting sick And they realized they were eating off a real silverware. So, you scrape the fork against your tooth, you get little pieces come out, ions, you have acid in your mouth, breaks off little subatomic particles and those people didn't get the plague. So doctors started prescribing people to walk around with silver spoons in your mouth so you don't get the plague. And so instead of meaning you're wealthy, it means does not apply to you.
Speaker 5:You're not going to get sick from the silver spoon. And actually the tradition of giving silver pacifiers to babies was born there in that era too. You know, get the baby a silver pacifier, now your baby won't die from the plague.
Speaker 1:Interesting. It's actually funny because I was, as we were talking about before the show started, I used to have a scrap buying business I'd buy. I still have like Ziploc bags of scrap silver and, you know, they call junk silver. And I remember keeping some silver silverware, and we've got a silver spoon that's sitting up in our, you know, we have our normal kind of, you know, flatware or whatever, but we have a a silver spoon that sits in there. And pretty often I'll give it to my girls to use.
Speaker 1:The problem with it is that they're eating soup or something hot, the silver, it conducts that heat, so the spoon gets really hot. But whenever I can, if they're eating yogurt or something, I'll give them the silver spoon. And, of course, you know, we're also giving them other kinds of silver and other things that make them, you know, healthy, but, it's kind of like a a a kick to that. So, now but you mentioned colloidal silver, and there's there's different kinds of silver. You know, colloidal silver, I think it's like atomic silver, you've got micronic silver.
Speaker 1:So not all silver is created equal as far as I understand. So walk us through, like, what is colloidal silver, which is, you know, very common for a lot of people who've heard of colloidal silver. But then walk us into like, what is micronic silver? And what are the differences between those?
Speaker 5:Well, starts with the production of the product. So colloidal, ionic and nano silver, those are the three main types. Now there's people that say I have some subatomic silver, I've got monatomic silver. They're just fancy names for colloidal silver. So they're all made the same.
Speaker 5:There's two electrodes in water and you have alternating current. So colloidal silver is here, a shallow arc, that's a particle. Then you have ionic silver, which is a deeper arc. And then you have nano silver, which is an even deeper arc. The deeper the arc, the smaller the particle or molecule.
Speaker 5:So colloidal is a particle, I mean a little piece of silver is coming off. When they talk about building up in your system or quote, the people turning blue from silver, that was because it was a particle that was too big to get washed out through lymphatic and waste system. Your body kind of views silver, it's almost like a vitamin C. I'm sorry, it takes what it can get and then it expels what is not left or what it doesn't use. When you have ionic silver, it's a subatomic molecule.
Speaker 5:So it's an ion, not a particle. So it's dispersed more wholly through the body and it works kind of the same but a little bit different. So they all kind of work the same. And that puts you to nano silver, which is the deepest arc. That is a subatomic molecule with a higher blade surface it's called, so its function is a little bit different.
Speaker 5:My experience, colloidal silvers, you don't wanna do over 10 parts per million. They create biofilms and bigger structures that your body doesn't assimilate well, can become toxic. It's harder for your body to get rid of. Ionic silver is really good in the body. It disrupts the chemical lung of the single cell organism and a type of suffocation, hits it with ionic charge, killing the bacteria, fungus, or virus.
Speaker 5:Now it's trapped in that cell and gets washed out the lymphatic and waste system. And they all perform sort of that function. The nano silvers change with current static electricity, and it's very volatile that way. So you should never do nano mineral metal in your body because it's changed with current and when you're sick, your body's acidic so they can flip polarity and become toxic in the body. So on the skin, it's fine, you just don't wanna put it in the body.
Speaker 5:So when I created my chronic silver, we created a product that is stable in the body so you don't have that problem. All other silvers stay suspended in the body for six to eight minutes, precipitate down and get washed out through lymphatic and waste system. They're sublingual delivery only, meaning absorbed under the tongue. So when you swallow them, they hit the stomach acid, create silver chloride because it's reactive. Now it's dead and gets washed out through the lymphatic and waste system.
Speaker 5:The micronic silver is stable, so it's a sublingual and an ingested delivery. It's not destroyed by stomach acid, so it's dual mode delivery. And the micronic silver stays active in the body for eight to ten hours instead of six to eight minutes. So you don't have to take as much, consider it a concentrate if you will. The best way to explain it is the colloidal ionic and nano silver is kinda like fishing.
Speaker 5:You put the worm on the hook, you cast it out there, you catch the fish, you rebait the hook. With the micronic silver, it's like throwing a net out there and just taking in all the fish, you know, fishing all day long. So it's just much more effective and less reactive. It is geared towards function and immunity, helps build the immune system. So it gets your immune system to work in the way that God intended it to.
Speaker 5:So it's just a more efficient, less reactive way of, you know, helping the body rebuild itself.
Speaker 1:So basically in these different variations of silver, they are different methods that have been used to put silver particles into, you know, water or a topical spray or something that you can actually basically, acts as a carrier to bring silver into the body, but the different types of silver particles created in that process have different functions and different kind of like shelf lives in the body, right? You know what mean, in terms of how long they last in there. So, so, so did you, did you invent a new process? Like a micronic silver, is that a whole new kind of technology that was invented to create a different type of silver that comes into your body?
Speaker 5:Yeah, you know, I'm gonna say not invented. I'm gonna say God gave it to us. Because I'm not smart enough to have it. I'll be honest with you on that. Yeah, ours is a three step process.
Speaker 5:It's not just two electrodes and water. So one of the things that really concerned me when I first started about learning about silver and making it is the instability issue with how it only lasts for a couple seconds in the body. It's nondescript in its function. So the colloidal ionic and nano silver kill all single cell organisms, bacteria, fungus, and viruses in the body, even the good ones. So usually after those, and because they're active for six to eight minutes, you usually have to take it quite a bit.
Speaker 5:So as a therapeutic, if you're sick, you know, because it stays in the body active six to eight minutes, really you should take it every half an hour, every hour, and you're putting high amounts into it. With the micronic silver being stable, it stays active in the body so you don't have to take it all the time. So to give you an idea, another company's colloidal ionic or nano silver, an eight ounce bottle as a therapeutic is gonna be like five to six days or seven days, where the eight ounce bottle of the micronic silver is a forty eight day supply because you only take it once a day, you don't take it every hour on the hour because it stays active in the body. The main benefit for me is that it's not destroying the good bacteria. And the reason being is the micronic silver is exo cellular where the other ones are intercellular.
Speaker 5:The other silvers have to be absorbed into the cell where they disrupt the chemical lung of the single cell organism in a suffocation. They hit it with an ionic charge, killing it. Now it's dead inside that cell, it gets washed out through the lymphatic and waste system. With a micronic silver, when it comes in contact with your bacteria, fungus, or virus, the micron is a subatomic particle with a very high atomic mass. It comes in contact, it steals the electron, rupturing the cell wall, killing that on contact.
Speaker 5:Now the micron takes in the electron, which it cannot hang on to because a micron is a form of an ion, which means missing electrons or can't hold electrons. It ejects the electrons into the nearest thing, which is a blood cell giving you energy. And now ours is active and goes after the next bacteria, fungus or virus for eight to ten hours instead of six to eight minutes.
Speaker 1:Okay. That makes sense to my elementary way of understanding it. So, walk on, I know that you've got a whole line of products and actually I use most of your products. Like the nasal spray is like probably my favorite one. Cause it's just like, if I'm cloudy, it just, it just like, it's like, it's like, kind of like licking a car battery, like in the right way.
Speaker 1:It just kind of like, really gets me going. But, you know, walk us through some of your kind of main products and what they do and what response you're seeing from people that are using these products.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so one of the things we did is we put like a kit together of our main products called our silver bullet kit. And that one's got the micronic silver, which is our flagship product, the dietary supplement. That's a 27, you take basically a teaspoon a day, you can take it as a preventative or you can take it if you're feeling sick. You know, we literally have customers of ours that have gotten food poisoning, take two teaspoons of the dietary supplement and in four minutes, the diarrhea throwing up stomach pain stops. It helps reduce inflammation in the body.
Speaker 5:It really gets your immune system functioning the way that it should. So that one is like your everyday, your run of the mill, let's use this for everything kind of product. And then we put that into the nasal spray. So it's really the same formula just in a nasal sprayer because viruses incubate in the nasal passages. So your first line of defense from getting colds and flus and stuff like that is to spray the micronic silver nasal spray right in your nasal passages.
Speaker 5:And that's where it's gonna be most effective so you don't get sick. And when you're gonna be dealing around or dealing with crowds of people, it's great to just put a blast in each nostril. And then you kind of have to don't worry about getting sick. During the pandemic, when they were doing the nasal swabs at airports, it got out about the micronic silver nasal spray. And we had just massive amount of people that were using this before they went to their nasal swab, like five minutes before they would spray the micronic silver in their nasal passages.
Speaker 5:And we hadn't had one person get back to us and say they tested positive and they were able to take their flight. So they were using it as a cheat code. From there, we went on to the micronic topical healing and not unlike other companies that take the dietary supplement and they put a nasal or a topical spray on it, and they say, This is our topical one. We actually make our topical one twice as strong as our dietary supplement because you're gonna have an amount of evaporation versus penetration into the skin that we made it stronger so it works better. That one can be sprayed in the eyes.
Speaker 5:Actually, anywhere on the body you can use that one. I have allergies, so when my eyes itch, I just spray it right in my eyes and basically I'm contacting it, itching goes away, the burning goes away. And I actually use that for, excuse me, our customers use that for like shingles, which is hugely painful. We found that when you take the dietary supplement internally, you spray the topical spray topically, you're actually sandwiching the virus in between a layer where then the body can destroy it. And the pain seems to go away almost immediately.
Speaker 5:And from there, with the technology, with how we make the product, you know, the three step process that we have is again, not just two electrodes in water, we restructure the water, like changing the hydrogen bond angles, and then we take the ion apart, putting it back together in a different formulation, creating ozone in itself. So because we really became, I think one of the leaders in ozone technology, we actually created the Aleozone product, which is the little jar on your left with the orange label. That is a 100% ozone trapped in an Alea Aropa oil and it is magnificent on pain relief on soft tissue. I mean, pulled muscles, even broken bones where they're swelling, it reduces the inflammation, taking pressure off the nerve and the pain goes away. We have dentists that use that when they pull a tooth out, they pack that in the vacated cavity and never get dry socket, the pain goes away.
Speaker 5:They use the dietary supplement for healing also. So it's really good for oral applications, sore muscles. Actually, we've had a lot of vendors that do shows where their feet will get tired or get sore. They'll put that on their feet if it's a two or three day show, and they said they don't have the fatigue. Chiropractors are using it when they do their adjustments.
Speaker 5:Their patients are saying that not only was adjustment better, they're holding longer. We have massage therapists that use it and their hands aren't sore at the end of the day from giving all the massages. So that's a really good topical product to use. It also works on bee stings, bug bites, burns, takes the heat out of sunburn. So there's a lot of applications for our products together.
Speaker 5:And then we created the Silva Zone product from there where we took the Leo Zone and we took the dietary supplement and we put those into a skin cream called Silva Zone. So it's got the benefits of the silver and the ozone together. And that's on a nice spreadable low melting point skin moisturizer that goes down to the subcutaneous level of your skin immediately and hydrates up over the next ten hours, reducing arthritis and joint pain on contact while it softens the skin. And so we put these in a packet together to make it a little bit more affordable and so people can try the products. And the Silver Bullet Kit is one of our best sellers.
Speaker 1:And I'll say too that, you know, these are things that we use. You know, I'm really very cautious about vetting any any product being discussed on the show to say, okay, is this good? Is this something I'd give my own kids? Like, so the, the nasal spray, actually, again, so nasal spray we use all the time. My wife who, you know, she has lung issues occasionally, if she's, like, can't stop coughing.
Speaker 1:Not as much recently, she, you know, last year or two. And I've noticed even the nasal spray will pull her right out of a coughing fit. Whereas like, you know, whether, whether she's taking some sort of manuka honey or eucalyptus, it doesn't really do much to help, but the nasal spray instantly does that. I've also found that if I've got if I'm just if I'm blocked up, like, I have, you know, kind of my sinuses are kind of, you know, just jammed up, Again, that nasal spray, it just is like, it's like instant clear. Now, it's intense, though.
Speaker 1:I mean, my eyes are gonna water because I think it has what? Rosemary and some other things in there, if I'm not mistaken. Which is that correct? It does have Rosemary, right?
Speaker 5:No. This one is just the micronic silver. We have the other one called the Sonic Mist.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay.
Speaker 5:That one is the silver ozone hemp and CBD with rosemary and eucalyptus in it. And that's the one for like the longtime sinus sufferers. That one will hook you up in seconds.
Speaker 1:Okay. Okay. And so, but then the, the skincare, though, is also great for, again, you know, wasps, bug bites, stings, sunburns, and even you have an experience too, didn't you? If I remember correctly, you burned your hand really bad. Can you tell us that story really quickly?
Speaker 1:Because I think that really highlights, like, one of the best instances of how silver affects things.
Speaker 5:Yeah. So, I had an elderly gentleman, his wife would take the dietary supplement for her Parkinson's. It would help with her tremors and the body pain because it will work on bone and joint pain at the cellular level in the body. And I was dropping it off at his house and he was cooking and he had a bottle of olive oil too close to the stove. And while we were sitting in his living room, I heard a pow and a whoosh and I turned around, the whole wall's going orange.
Speaker 5:I run-in the kitchen and flames were shooting out of the olive oil. His bottom of his cabinets had already started on fire. I mean, it was really starting to spread. So I realized that it was an apartment building and it was all carpeted, there was no windows over that part of the apartment. And if that bottle exploded, he probably wouldn't get his wife who was bedridden out of the house.
Speaker 5:And he was like 80 years old, so I don't know if he would have made it either. So when I went into the kitchen, there was a towel laying there, I put the sink on, I put the towel in there, took it out so it was soaking wet, and I went over the stove, I rolled up my sleeve, I grabbed the bottle and took it over to the stove, it spilled over my hand and caught my hand on fire. And it was probably roughly around 300 degrees temperature on that bottle. And immediately I tossed it in the sink, you know, put the towel around my hand, the wet towel, and put it, the second towel that was there, put over the product in the sink to stop the oxygen so the fire went out. And then I put out the fire in the cabinets and my hand was second and third degree burns, boiled it down to the muscle.
Speaker 5:I asked the gentleman if he had a one quart, you know, Ziploc bag, and I took that bottle of dietary supplement I was given for his wife, I dumped it in the bag and stuck my hand in there, and immediately I had no pain. And so I just taped it around my wrist because it was quite painful. And I knew there was a lot of damage done there. So the fire department got there, the paramedics looked at it and they're like, yeah, we're gonna call an ambulance. And I'm like, No, I'm fine.
Speaker 5:I'll drive myself to the hospital. And they're like, No, you're in shock. I'm like, I'm not in shock. And they're like, Yeah, no, no, that's really bad. You just don't understand.
Speaker 5:So I took the tape off, pulled my hand out and I said, Okay, I'm not in any pain. I said, I took my hand out. In about ten seconds, I mean, it felt like my hand was on fire again. It was like, yeah, now it's really burning so I'm not in shock and then I stuck it back in there, taped it off and I ended up driving myself to the hospital. And the doctor right away, you know, he looked at my hand, now it's all swollen.
Speaker 5:It's got all the fluid in there protecting it. And the doctor goes, well, first thing we're gonna do is drain that. And I look at him, I go, are you dumb or stupid? Something to that effect. I said, that's all antiseptic in there.
Speaker 5:Why would you cut it open? He said, well, we have to drain it so you don't get an infection. I'm like, We're at the one place in the world where there's more infections than anything where people go to the hospital to get sick and you wanna expose it to that bad air. I'm like, No, no, no, just wrap it up and I'll go home. And he said, Okay, so they put some cream on it, which was Silverdeen cream, which the hospitals use.
Speaker 5:That was invented by Doctor. John Richardson. That's John from RNC. His dad invented that cream in 1967 and the hospital still use today because it's got silver in it. So he put that on it and I explained that the product my hand was in was like, know, my chronic silver, about 2,000 times more effective.
Speaker 5:So I went home and I just treated every day. And they literally said they would have to amputate my fingers, it was so bad. I mean, it just boiled it right down. I mean, the skin just really just boiled right off my hand. And it healed it in twenty, it was twenty five days.
Speaker 5:I had no pain, no scarring the whole time. Every day, I would just soak it in there for a couple minutes. I would put that Aleozone salve that I showed you that we have as part of our kit on there and bandage it up. And the Lia Zone kept it moist, stopped the inflammation, it took the heat out of it almost immediately when I put that on there. And that became our wound care protocol that they're using in some elderly homes for bed sores and stuff like that, where you take the dietary supplement internally, you do the topical healing spray on it and then while that's still wet, put the Lia Zone over it to keep the silver suspended.
Speaker 5:And we're seeing, you know, cuts down to tendons, like an elderly woman who had a skin tear down to her tendons, twenty one days at the hospital, they couldn't get it to close-up, they can't do stitches because the skin's too thin, they do our protocol in fourteen days completely healed without a sign of a scar. And so that's become our wound care protocol. What's nice about it is silver is so, you know, flexible in what it does, there's many, many things it works on. So it's not like a pharmaceutical where it was designed to do this one thing and after that it sits in your cabinet for, you know, five years until you realize the bottle's expired right when you need it the most. And nobody ever finishes their prescriptions.
Speaker 5:They take it to their feel better and they go, I'm gonna save this for later. The silver has ten year shelf life and it works on many different things.
Speaker 1:It's pretty incredible stuff. We've had, mean, we haven't had that level of experience, but I can say just from my own experience of burning myself or, you know, like, you know, bumping a hot cast iron pan, that it's it's it's same experience. It's just like, it just instantly, it goes from burning to just like, Oh, what happened there?
Speaker 5:If you touch it, it'll hurt. If
Speaker 1:they Exactly. Leave it alone, like
Speaker 5:doesn't blister. It doesn't even blister, so you don't have any scar or anything.
Speaker 1:Exactly, exactly. So I'll go back to your website. We've got a link set, it's just sethsilver.net, and I'll make sure the link is in the description. There's a promo code Seth, you get a discount on there. So, this is a Silver Bullet kit right here.
Speaker 1:On the shop, you've got a bunch of other products, you've got some mouthwash and some, those are new products, which we'll probably do a separate show on those. You know, you can get the individual products here, so if people wanna wanna just get the Silva Zone for the, you know, for the, you know, cream or the nasal spray. The other spray I was talking about was a Sonic Mist. This is the one that we also use This as is a Sonic Mist. You have them all there.
Speaker 1:But then if you go down, this is the silver bullet kit, right? So as they save, it's kind of like the, you know, your your complete medicine cabinet, right there. And so again, that's, sethsilver.net, promo code, seth. He can save you some money on that.
Speaker 5:And if you wanna go back to the arcanum a
Speaker 1:Yeah, sure.
Speaker 5:I wanna tell people about this because it doesn't get enough attention. So the Arcanum twelve hundred has been working better than morphine for pain management with people. It's actually the micronic silver with ozone, hemp, and CBD in it. From a Delta eight, not a Delta nine. It doesn't make you feel high but we were at the autism conference and there was people there that children had seizures and this actually stopped their seizures.
Speaker 5:Incredible. So, and again, everything we have is all natural, 100% organic, no synthetics in it. So the one thing that people don't understand when you're looking at a pharmaceutical, they put synthetics in it which is not natural in the body. So right away, body is going to attack it. So they put, every single drug has an immunosuppressor in it to suppress your immune system so it doesn't attack the thing that they gave you to help with the condition that you have.
Speaker 5:Now that doesn't make sense to me. Mean, I'm going east to Chicago, don't go west to turn around and go back east. And this is what, you know, we deal with big pharma with is everything that they do is geared towards profit. You know, yes, we need to make a living. The money revolves around people making a living.
Speaker 5:We wanna make a living, but our goal is to help people first and foremost. You know, if I put myself out of business by people using our product, we have such a healthier society. God's blessed me immensely. He's gonna bless me in other ways. So we do pray over and bless our products.
Speaker 5:We believe it's the power of his word that's in it. But we have a lot of loyal customers like yourself. We don't let anybody talk about our product unless they use it, so that way they can share their experiences with it. And we have an 89% customer reorder rate, so we know our products work very, very well. We do have people that answer the phones, usually me, so if there's questions, if there's something our product does, we will tell you a product.
Speaker 5:We will, you know, like for circulatory problem issues, know, the cardio miracle, or like the RNC with the apricot seeds. So we wanna help, our goal is to help people get better. Our goal is not profits.
Speaker 1:Which is important and important, especially these days. So Jeff, thank you again for your time. Again, reminder, I'll put all the links in the description and look forward to next time. Thank you for being here with us today.
Speaker 5:Thank you. God bless you. And thank you for being a friend.
Speaker 1:You're welcome. You're welcome. Thank you too.
Speaker 2:Alright, bye bye.