Eyes Open Truther Podcast

Richard & Amber interview a young black entrepreneur - Ashley Nicole and her testimony about her childhood in the Alabama projects and her rise to being a successful business owner in the Atlanta Marketing. This is a tear dropping episode. 
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Host
Amber Nordstrom
Co Founder of Eyes Open Truther Podcast
Producer
Richard Tomas Railey
Founder of Eyes Open Truther Podcast

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Speaker 1:

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Eyes Open because once you see it

Speaker 2:

You can unsee it.

Speaker 1:

We are on episode 105 today, and I am your host, Richard Thomas Raley.

Speaker 2:

And I'm Amber Nordstrom.

Speaker 1:

And we are excited to have on the couch with us today a guest of ours. Her name is Ashley Nicole. I had the privilege of meeting her in the city of Atlanta and her testimony, I mean, it just empowered me hearing about where she came from and where she rose to. So today's episode is gonna be about rising from the projects to powerful, to becoming a powerful woman, here in this city and doing so many things to help other people. And, listen, let's just dive right into it.

Speaker 1:

Tell us a little bit about your experience. Where do you come from and how how did you come to Atlanta?

Speaker 2:

So I'm from Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Okay. 1st, thank you guys for having me. Yeah. I'm so delighted.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's so great. We we crossed paths. I'm from Tuscaloosa, Alabama. And honestly, I grew up really hard.

Speaker 2:

Mhmm. K? My mother's family grew up in the housing projects.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

No people here at projects, they really don't.

Speaker 1:

They think of New York. Yeah. You know?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. But they don't understand the extensiveness of growing up in a housing project. It's literally a project. Like, they probably, like, placed it all together and threw us in a cage.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. The government did.

Speaker 3:

So tell us a little bit about that from a young mind of an age. You tell us the age and then kind of what it was like.

Speaker 2:

So when I was like 4 or 5 years old, I remember playing. They had a merry-go-round at the bottom of the projects. And I was a book worm. I I wore glasses. I was different, so I was often picked on.

Speaker 2:

And I remember this girl pushing me down, and I remember my cousin making me run after her to fight her. And I was the one that never wanted to fight. Mhmm. Everybody always wanted to fight, and I cannot figure it out. I'm like, I don't wanna fight.

Speaker 2:

Like, why I have to fight?

Speaker 1:

So everybody was, like, angry?

Speaker 2:

Angry. Yes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Emotional.

Speaker 2:

And I ran after this girl because if I didn't run after her, then I would get beat up by my cousins for, being weak. Wow. Right? So I run after her. She runs in her apartment.

Speaker 2:

She runs out of the house with this big butcher's

Speaker 1:

knife. Uh-uh.

Speaker 2:

And I'm 5. Let's just think I'm at the latest 5. 5 years old. My cousin is, like, 7.

Speaker 1:

Crazy.

Speaker 2:

This girl is, like, 5 or 6. And and I froze. And my cousin's so brave and crazy. She jumps in front of the knife and she's like, I'm not scared of that knife. Stab me.

Speaker 2:

And I'm like, this is not normal. At 5 years old, I knew that that was not normal. That same year, my cousin was killed in, like, in my presence. He was his neck was blown off by shotgun as he was trying to run back into my grandmother's house. I remember them being on their knees in the carpet, getting the blood out of the carpet because he bled out in the carpet.

Speaker 2:

Wow. And we had to stay in the same apartment even after this happened. I started kindergarten, and I would fight my teacher as she would awake me from nap time. And so they expelled me, and there was this principal, Louise j Crawford. Thank god for her.

Speaker 2:

She called my mom back, and she was like, something's not right. This is the sweetest girl. I wanna know what's going on with her. Like, why is she fighting

Speaker 1:

her teacher? Why is she so angry?

Speaker 2:

So angry. Yeah. And so what they learned was because right before my cousin was killed, he was so mean to me that day that as I was crying, I said to myself to my cousin, my older cousin, he's so mean. I wish he'd die.

Speaker 3:

Oh, wow. So you felt the guilt of that experience.

Speaker 1:

Felt I yeah.

Speaker 2:

And by the time we walked back from the store, not even 30 minutes later, he was getting shot and killed. So I would sit up in the house in fear that he would haunt me, and I wouldn't go to the bathroom. I would use the bathroom on myself. I would get spanked for using the bathroom. And I would just stay up all night because I was in so much fear.

Speaker 1:

And so

Speaker 2:

when I got to school the next day, I would sleep. I didn't wanna wake up because that was my safe haven, which is how I originated my nonprofit, Saint Haven

Speaker 1:

Oh.

Speaker 2:

Which is a love I have for saving children who are in housing projects Wow. In high crime areas.

Speaker 3:

So speaking of that, like, let's just get back into the mindset of a small you know, whoever's being raised in these projects, would you say that because of what they experienced, they almost think this is how it will be forever? Like, speak a little bit to maybe what that's happening in the project

Speaker 1:

and what's being produced.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So you're raising these children to live in survivor mode. Yeah. Like, I don't think anybody really understands what it's like to live in survival mode constantly.

Speaker 1:

Right. What you feel for your life, you shouldn't be at 10, 11, 8 I fearing for your life.

Speaker 2:

I'm fearing for my life. Yeah. I'm constantly trying to avoid being molested.

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

Shots, you know, family members getting shot, stabbed. I remember them bringing one of my uncles in because he was homosexual. And back then Yeah. Homosexual was in the projects. They were just Yeah.

Speaker 2:

No. And that was the eighties. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That was like a public enemy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. 89, 90. Yeah. Yeah. They had beat him bad with bats or stuff.

Speaker 2:

And he had he had stabbed got stabbed and beat really bad. Another uncle, his crackhead girlfriend had stabbed him, and they put him in the house. Like, I just saw so much trauma. So you're these kids, they're not able to think about a future. Wow.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. They're not able to think about Well,

Speaker 1:

they're trapped.

Speaker 2:

They're trapped.

Speaker 1:

They're trapped in that mindset. Is survival.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. We gonna have lights today? You know, are we gonna have water for me to bathe? And so you're breeding this type of inferior mindset into children at a young age. It's horrible.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And so then you you you turn them loose and then you point the finger at them. You take their fathers out of the home.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

That you you demean the men. You know? Wow. And then you eventually give the women the opportunity to gain more education.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

But then there's still this glass ceiling where they can't even go farther to and and I'm a tell you, with me being divorced, it is so hard to find healed black men in this country.

Speaker 1:

Right. Because they've been put down not only by the public, but by their own culture.

Speaker 2:

Over and over and

Speaker 1:

over again. Like, they're expected to lose.

Speaker 2:

And they can't figure it out. A lot of them are frustrated. There are some good men who Yeah. Absolutely. Fathers, and they did figure out.

Speaker 2:

But majority I would say half of black men or even a little bit more, they can't really figure it out because from birth, they've been trying to just survive and figure out who they are. When you cut the head Yeah. The body, the extremities don't know where to go. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And men, biblically, are supposed to be the head of the family.

Speaker 2:

The black communities across this country don't know who they are. They don't know the history of who they came from, where they came from. They don't know. So if you don't have a family history or heritage to look up to, to be proud of Yeah. Then what are you living for?

Speaker 2:

Right. So you you go on through life confused, frustrated, upset Yeah. Neglected, and you take that anger out on the one person who is believing in you, who's supporting you

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Because it's just embedded hurt and abuse like you don't trust.

Speaker 3:

So since you came from that, give me a glimpse into when you realized, wait a minute. There might be more

Speaker 1:

for me. Something more.

Speaker 3:

I could rise. Take me to that moment.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna tell you and I'm try I'm gonna try really hard not to get emotional. My mom's mom, even though she lived in the project, she would always pray. One day, I I remember how she would put me on the side of the bed with her and get on our knees and pray. And after my cousin got killed and after I had constantly saw all this stuff, I got on my knees by myself in the room. And I said, god, why did you bring me here?

Speaker 2:

Why? So even at that young age, I knew that something was not right. I knew that was just not like, I didn't understand even at 5, like, why did my life have to be like this? So I was always inspired. And I think even at that young age, I felt like when I got older, I wanted to help kids like me because that's just not a way to live this life.

Speaker 1:

Like It's not.

Speaker 2:

Why would you bring me here to go through this torment?

Speaker 3:

It's not.

Speaker 2:

You know? Mhmm. Good. The good thing is that my dad's family were more middle class. They lived, like, a mile from the projects, not even that much that that far.

Speaker 2:

They were business owners.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

They they knew who they were.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

They knew where they came from. Yeah. Right? They didn't have it all figured out Sure. But they but, like, my uncle started a restaurant for my great grandmother.

Speaker 2:

We had that restaurant in our family. It was called Sweet Taste

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

For 40 years. Wow. So I grew up in hospitality.

Speaker 1:

My So that's where you get your entrepreneurial spirit from.

Speaker 2:

Yes. Yeah. We were wrapping burgers, packing fries and burgers and selling it Yeah. From my when I was that 5 year old. So even when I was seeing all the trauma on my mom's side of the family, my dad's side of the family showed me something different.

Speaker 2:

Wow. My grandfather

Speaker 1:

He gave you hope.

Speaker 2:

Yes. He gave me hope. My grandfather, CS, we call him CS, but his name is Charles Sharper.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

He was such a renaissance man from the fashion, the way he dressed, the way

Speaker 1:

he carried himself.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. He traveled. He went here and there. But he always instilled in his children that they are more and they can achieve whatever they wanted to be. And he loved me.

Speaker 2:

I named one of my companies after him. But that just knowing where they from, I I saw the difference. Wow. I saw my aunt start her catering business. I saw my my other aunt, well, she's actually a cousin, but she's so much older.

Speaker 2:

She's been a general manager at hotels for, like, 30 years

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And brought me in to be a coordinator of marketing and events, you know. So that part of it now the conflict was that my mom, she had me at 19. My dad was 21. He was a spoiled kid. He just wanted to be bad Right.

Speaker 2:

You know, because he was in the environment.

Speaker 1:

Right. So That projected that. That said, hey. You don't need to stick around. You know, you may be given you know, you may be getting a woman impregnated, but you don't need to stick around.

Speaker 1:

Yes. And that still is perpetuated today in the 2024 society. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

My dad just wanted to be a bad kid because he was just in the environment. He wasn't far away. But, like, my grandmother always wanted me. My dad was her only child, so I was, like, her only girl.

Speaker 1:

Praise god for your grandmother.

Speaker 2:

Yes. But because my mom was so immature and so insecure, she really didn't want me with my grandmother as much.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Threatened.

Speaker 2:

A little bit of therapy. Maybe grateful that my grandmother did not give up on me. Yeah. She got me in programs like Outward Bound Yeah. Where there was like a like a collegiate stay.

Speaker 2:

Like, you would go in the summer. You would study. You know, she always pushed me to do, like, honor society, events courses. You know, and I I played sports, and she was there to support me. I I played in the International Sports Festival in Germany while I was in high school, an exchange student.

Speaker 2:

Yes. Yes. So, my grandmother, however, when it came to college, I did so well on my ACT because I was this book nerd.

Speaker 1:

Right? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I was getting engineering scholarships.

Speaker 1:

That is so awesome.

Speaker 2:

I remember Mercer University sent me a $98,000 full wide scholarship. Wow. And my grandmother said, I don't know why these people keep sending you these engineering scholarships. This is hard. She didn't

Speaker 1:

know how brilliant you were. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

She didn't know. She

Speaker 1:

didn't know how great you'd become.

Speaker 2:

Idea that I had the capacity to be an engineer and beyond. Well and it's crazy because I went in circles. Right? I ended up going to an accounting going into the UA, staying home. She wanted me to stay home, which was the worst thing I probably could've done.

Speaker 2:

Right. Because I stayed in the In the environment. Yes. Yes. I I did go to school.

Speaker 2:

I started out in accounting because I scored really high in math and science. And so my grandmother thinks that math meant accounting. Mhmm. I get in that program. I'm miserable.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, this is not it. This is not math. Yeah. So I go back to my counselor. I'm like, can I just be a math professor?

Speaker 2:

And she's like, well, you have to start all over. It's a lot of math. Yeah. So I'm like, well, what do I do? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I end up running into another girl who just graduated that was in accounting program with me. And she was like, girl, what are you doing? I was like, I don't know. I don't wanna do this. And she was like, well, I I have I I just started this job for the state geological survey.

Speaker 2:

Mhmm. They're hiring interns. They're paying them, like, $20. You You should just come and get a job until you figure it out. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I get into that job and it's so intriguing. Mhmm. It's geology. I'm like, I've never heard of this in my life. I went to a title one school Right.

Speaker 2:

West side of Tuscaloosa.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

They didn't teach us anything about geology. I'm like, what is this? And then they're saying, like, hey, there are no minorities in this field. This is a field where we need minorities.

Speaker 1:

So you led the way.

Speaker 2:

So I led the way. Yes.

Speaker 1:

You did.

Speaker 2:

Love it. So I go. I get the degree. And then the the director of HR, she says to me she said, do you know if you graduate with a geology degree, you'll be the 1st African American woman to work at this geological survey?

Speaker 1:

And that's what you became.

Speaker 2:

And that's what I became. Wow. And I'm gonna tell you, this is why I know Donald Trump is not a racist.

Speaker 1:

Oh, she gonna go there.

Speaker 2:

Oh, come on.

Speaker 1:

She lead and go

Speaker 3:

there for it.

Speaker 2:

On there because I set before races, real races.

Speaker 1:

Well, let's go ahead and say that real quick. So you that whole industry is dominated by men

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Specifically in Alabama.

Speaker 2:

Older white men.

Speaker 1:

Old white men. Okay? So you were coming into their territory as an African American woman Mhmm. Beautiful, just as smart as they are Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1:

And know exact and you're younger, so you have a fresher out take, you have an outlook that's different than their mindset, they have an old mindset. And so we always say fresh eyes are the way to go because fresh eyes give you new perspectives. And so you walk in there and it's all these white men. What was that like when you started working initially with them? You're like, who

Speaker 2:

I was so

Speaker 1:

Where am I at?

Speaker 2:

Honestly, I was so gullible, because I just thought I'm bringing new new ideas. Yeah. I wanna excite them.

Speaker 3:

You were fresh. You had energy. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And they would just shoot me down every time. Hate it. And I was like

Speaker 1:

Yeah. They they were scared of you. Mhmm. They were threatened by you. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Specifically, you're a woman and you're a woman of color. So it's like a double dose for them in

Speaker 2:

the life.

Speaker 3:

To mention, they saw her brains. They weren't fooled.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. No. They knew you were smart.

Speaker 3:

You were smart.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I had to learn to play chess. And I played chess, and I kept notes of every time someone mistreated me.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Because for me, and I'm a tell you guys, I've never been really moved by racism.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

For me, I feel like racism is just somebody's own personal issue.

Speaker 1:

It's a spiritual issue.

Speaker 2:

That's something that they're battling with within themselves. Yeah. That has nothing to do with

Speaker 1:

me. Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

I see it no different than someone saying, oh, I don't like her because she's dark, or I don't like her because she's short Right. Or I don't like him because he's gay, or I don't like her because she's fat.

Speaker 1:

That's your problem. That's your problem.

Speaker 2:

So I never really let it really bother me.

Speaker 3:

So strong of you, really.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, because so many people absorb it. Yeah. And they take it as them themselves. So when people are racist or they're hateful or, you know, they literally absorb it and it becomes a spirit of victimhood and rejection, which which kinders them from going forward in life. Yes.

Speaker 1:

And you didn't allow that to happen. No.

Speaker 2:

Wow. Because no. No. I I realized early on that, in high school, like, Kelsey Robinson was, like, a white girl. She was, like, what she's the sweetest to me.

Speaker 2:

She's, like, my best friend even to this day. Wow. Right? Like, I'm not about to allow this thing to come between me and people. And even I even went and joined, like, First Baptist Church downtown.

Speaker 2:

It was

Speaker 1:

like In Tuscaloosa.

Speaker 2:

In Tuscaloosa. That's all white. 98% white. Yeah. So go back

Speaker 3:

to the comment that you said, how you're like, I know Donald Trump is not a racist because I know rights yes.

Speaker 2:

So speakless is that. Racist white men, you can't sit by them.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

They're red if you wanna touch them. And I purposely would be I would shake their hands, and

Speaker 1:

I will hold them. Them.

Speaker 2:

And I would be like, it's so good to see you this morning. Oh my god. You look great. Oh, you got a new haircut. I will compliment them.

Speaker 2:

I love you. And I will watch over time. Half of them, the walls would go down. Yeah. Right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Because I decided I was gonna pour love into them

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

No matter how they treat me.

Speaker 1:

The Bible says. Jesus says you pour hot coals on people's head when you're kind to them in spite of their hate.

Speaker 2:

And their hate pushed me in a position where they could they had to put me in a position permanently.

Speaker 1:

Well, you were taking notes. Wait a minute. You came with receipts.

Speaker 2:

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I took notes. I got a diary Yeah.

Speaker 3:

About drama. She's smart. She's

Speaker 1:

like, I'm gonna keep

Speaker 2:

notes on you. Because, honestly, if you have a problem with racism, then let's just take it to the legal aspect of it. Okay? Hit them where it hurts. Yep.

Speaker 2:

The checkbook.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. That's right.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. So I just said, okay. This is why they wanna play it, and that's fine. So I started journaling. Yep.

Speaker 2:

And every time somebody followed me in a basement alone, a wild woman are you crazy? Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So then what happened? So you had all these receipts.

Speaker 2:

All these receipts.

Speaker 1:

What did

Speaker 2:

you do with that? Meeting Mhmm. Right before before I graduated my senior year as a geology student. And I said, well, this happened on this day, this day, this day. Now I don't know if it's, sexual discrimination.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Sure.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if it's harassment. You're smart. I don't know if it's racial discrimination. But I know I'm uncomfortable.

Speaker 1:

Right. And I

Speaker 2:

don't know if I need to go get my legal team, but I don't wanna work like this anymore.

Speaker 1:

And what happened? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

The head geologist, he was furious. He's like, you you guys have been treating her like this? Yeah. Yeah. They've been treating me like

Speaker 1:

this. So you get rightful justice.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna he's like yeah. He's like, I'm gonna put her where she's appreciated.

Speaker 1:

Yep. Love it.

Speaker 2:

And he put me, in the energy investigations department Mhmm. Which was in another building. And I was over collegiate. Yeah. So I trained college students.

Speaker 2:

They came in and out, and I had the best experience. And I did it for 7 years

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

Until I started feeling like this is not my purpose.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And I started trying to Which your stepping stones. Yeah. Mhmm. I kept trying to figure out, god, how do I start nonprofit? Yep.

Speaker 2:

Like, how and that's when I got my master's of public administration because they would teach me how to run an organization or nonprofit, how to write grants, how to do marketing, how to just build

Speaker 1:

a corporation.

Speaker 2:

And like Wow. So I did that. Wow.

Speaker 1:

And I'm,

Speaker 2:

like and and and then I I ended up in Atlanta. Yeah. Events, like I said, I grew up in hospitality. So it was always in me.

Speaker 1:

So you started an event planning company?

Speaker 2:

Started an event planning company.

Speaker 1:

Name of your company?

Speaker 2:

KoeKay and Company.

Speaker 1:

And what's the website?

Speaker 2:

Kollkay

Speaker 1:

Alright.

Speaker 2:

Andco.com. Yeah. Alright. Named after my older two children.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And, I started it. I did weddings. I like, weddings just took off. I I did, like, over 200 weddings as well. After doing that for a few years, I was like, I don't like it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It was I didn't god is in me. Okay?

Speaker 1:

So he's gonna lead you.

Speaker 2:

And when it comes to marriage, I really cared about that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. But you also were dealing with bridezillas, and I don't know anybody because listen. I was a wedding photographer. So I know what it's like to deal with bridezillas because they're so emotional.

Speaker 3:

But I see too your stepping stone

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 3:

As he leads you. And look at all the skills that she I mean, your resume is

Speaker 1:

So you went from being a

Speaker 2:

geologist Yes.

Speaker 1:

To an engineer, to an event planner.

Speaker 2:

Wait. Bring that back. The engineer that my grandmother was afraid that I couldn't become

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

A geologist is an engineer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's an earth engineer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. But then how did you what was where's the bridge from coming from there to Atlanta?

Speaker 2:

So I I ended up getting a divorce. Okay. My first my first husband

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

A lot of awful things happened.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And, honestly, if those things would not have happened, I probably would have never moved. Like Still be in Alabama? Yeah. Mhmm. Because I was just loyal to the idea of marriage.

Speaker 2:

Sure. And I wanted to make it work. And when I got out when I was getting out of the marriage, I could just feel the holy spirit is seeing him move.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. You have to start over. Give you a fresh perspective.

Speaker 2:

And I just wasn't comfortable there. And then I got up, and I came to Atlanta. Mhmm. It was the closest, furthest, biggest city is what I say. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So my kids could stay

Speaker 1:

close to Atlanta. For entrepreneurs, Atlanta. It's specifically black entrepreneurs. It really is a mecca. So so you came to Atlanta Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

And you started this company, and it took a minute, but you rose. And and from what I understand, I saw that you did little Bow Wow's birthday party. Did you not?

Speaker 2:

I did his mom's boutique launch. Okay. Even her 2 year anniversary party. Wow. Honored with Noble Atlanta.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And and even before then, I started producing comedy shows for celebrity comics.

Speaker 1:

So you've just been doing a little bit of everything. Everything.

Speaker 2:

So I became a event producer.

Speaker 1:

Oh, wow.

Speaker 2:

So from securing the talent, negotiating the contracts Uh-huh. I have my own staff team. You know, I run the box office, the marketing team, and I just coordinated it all, the AV, the sound, the vendors, everything. And I love that. I love that.

Speaker 2:

And I have so many skills. Yeah. People are some people will say, like, are you're all over the place. And I'm like Just gifted. God is just all over me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that is a powerful lesson that I believe that you learned, and it's something for our watchers, our viewers to take.

Speaker 1:

The takeaway from this episode is that you didn't allow where you came from

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

To influence where god wanted to take you. You didn't allow it. And even when you were put in a situation kind of like the biblical Joseph where his own brothers turned on him, he kept his perspective on god. Yes. He kept his attitude right.

Speaker 1:

He kept his faith up, and you did just that. You you were surrounded by these horrible men. Right? And rightfully, so many men and women of color have experienced this, and they've experienced way worse. But you chose the higher road

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

And God promoted you because you did what was right. Even though they threw their hate at you, you were like Teflon, you were like, no, I'm gonna give back love, which because you sowed that, God gave you the increase. Yes. And here you are. You've got a beautiful family.

Speaker 2:

Thank you.

Speaker 1:

And you have a a wonderful business, and you have become literally a woman of power and influence in the city of Atlanta. And so where you came from, God said, no. No. I'm gonna take you to the palace, and he's not even done with you yet. There is so much more for you.

Speaker 1:

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