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You're listening to That's Not Very Ladylike, the show where every week, we start with one rule, ladies don't, and then we do it anyway. Welcome back to another episode of That's Not Very Ladylike. And today, we are leaning in to something that happens to all friendships. And I hope today we can, like, take it to a next level because it can feel so personal and make you feel hurt, angry, confused. So we're gonna work through that today and hopefully come back out on the other side of this.
Tracey:Today's episode is ladies don't break up friendships. They ghost and feel guilty. So let's start by naming the rule. It's that ladies don't end friendships directly. We fade out.
Tracey:We get busy. We take longer to respond. We stop initiating the get togethers, and we hope the distance does the talking for us. Because breaking up with a friend feels cruel in a way that breaking up with a romantic partner somehow doesn't. It's never made sense, but it happens all the time.
Tracey:So romantic breakups are socially accepted. There's scripts for those. We watch movies about them. We have songs, playlists that we listen to. But friendship breakups, for some odd reason, they're just awkward, and they can be messy, uncomfortable, especially if it's a group of friends and one suddenly disappears.
Tracey:And for some reason, has no script for these friendship breakups. So instead of just saying like, hey, this doesn't feel aligned anymore for me, we just disappear. We just ghost. And then we carry that guilt like a weighted blanket that we've never asked for. And we're gonna use that blanket for years sometimes.
Tracey:So I wanna tell you a story. About ten years ago, I had one of those friendships that just felt easy and you know the kind, that person that you could say anything to, the one you look forward to seeing, the one that makes the faces, especially at work where you're in a meeting and you eye each other, the one who just gets you without a lot of explanation. And so we did, we worked together and that proximity made us close fast. And she was one of my people. I mean, really at that time, I would have said she was one of my life's closest friends.
Tracey:And then she left the job so excited for her. And I really wasn't worried at first because I was like, hey, real friendships survive job changes, right? We see it happen all the time. But slowly, without any conversation or explanation, she was just kinda gone from my life. So, she was still friends with our other coworkers, still showing up in those group chats, still laughing with the people we used to all laugh with together, still going out and doing things with those different individuals, but just not with me anymore.
Tracey:And I I did what I think most of us probably do when something like this happens. I turned it inward. So, I replayed every conversation. What did I say wrong? I searched for the moment that I must have said the wrong thing or maybe I did the wrong thing.
Tracey:I I bet you I did something wrong. Maybe I was too much. Maybe I didn't show up enough. Maybe I reached out an too much. Maybe I didn't reach out enough.
Tracey:And I kept asking those questions because I really did want to understand. And I think I just wanted her to tell me what I did so I could fix it, apologize for it, and make it right. And she never responded. I never got an explanation. I never got a conversation.
Tracey:I didn't even get like a I just need some space. I just got silence. And if you've ever been on the receiving end of that kind of silence from someone that you cared about, that you shared so much of your life with, you know that it has a specific weight to it. And it doesn't just hurt, it unsettles you. Because you don't get to close that chapter.
Tracey:You you just have to eventually decide, I'm gonna turn the page anyway. I still see her sometimes because we live in the same town and because we run-in the same circles. So there are moments when we end up in the same room. And I have watched my other friends that light up when she walks in. They rush over to hug her, excited to catch up, and I don't do that.
Tracey:And I wanna be really clear about why because this could be misconstrued. It's not because I'm petty. It's not because I hate her because I genuinely don't. It's not because I'm standing across the room keeping score or holding on to some carefully constructed grudge. It's really none of that.
Tracey:It's because I've done the work enough on myself to know that I'm allowed to love someone from a distance. I'm allowed to wish someone well without pulling them back into my inner circle. And I'm allowed to say that French that friendship served a season of my life. And that season is over. And there's a difference between that statement.
Tracey:It's not bitterness. It's rooted in self love. Because here's what I know now that I wish I had known then. Not every friendship that ends ends because of something you did wrong. Sometimes people grow in different directions.
Tracey:And sometimes the connection, it was real. It was real in that moment. And the timing, it was just always meant to be temporary. So sometimes someone exits your life, not because you weren't enough, but because the chapter has simply finished. And the closure I was looking from from her, I had to give that to myself.
Tracey:And honestly, that's probably one of the most important things I've ever done for my own heart. Will this be the last time someone ghosts me? Probably not. And that's just the reality of being a person who loves people openly and genuinely. I love people.
Tracey:And sometimes that means getting hurt. But here's what I want you to take from this. Whether you're the one who got ghosted or maybe you're the one who's done the ghosting and you're sitting with that too. You are loved. You are not the sum of the friendships that didn't make it.
Tracey:The people who couldn't stay in your journey, the people who couldn't stay in your story were not the measure of your worth. They were just part of the journey. And the friendships that are meant for you, the ones that are built for more than a season, those ones don't disappear without a word and hold on to those, cherish those, be grateful for those friendships, wish the others well, and keep going. So let's look at the emotional cost because here's what ghosting actually is costing you. And I mean cost, not just feels bad.
Tracey:So unfinished conversations sit in your nervous system. And that is not a metaphor. Your brain is always a completion machine. It wants resolution. It wants the loop closed.
Tracey:And when you ghost someone or when you've been ghosted, even you have a very valid reason to, the loop stays open. So then you start what we're all familiar with, replaying the memories. You rehearse explanations in the shower. You justify your decision in your head over and over again. You write the text that you never send.
Tracey:And your brain is looking for the ending that it never got. And because you never gave it one, it keeps looking. So now you're carrying grief, relief, shame, confusion, all at the same time even possibly. And those emotions, they don't just stay emotional. So when women feel relational tension that goes unresolved, it actually moves into physical symptoms for us.
Tracey:And research on the stress response shows that unresolved relational conflict activates the same threat response in the body as physical danger. We are wired for connection. And when connection fractures, the body notices. And you might notice things like a tight chest, digestive issues, headaches, sleep disruption, that general low level dread, you know, that we feel like down in the pit of your stomach and you can't quite name why but it's just there. And you think on some level, many of us are thinking, hey, I'm avoiding the discomfort by ghosting, right?
Tracey:Like, maybe I, it might be easier for me just to disappear than to say the words. But what you're actually doing is spreading that discomfort out over months, years, and for some of us, maybe even longer. So not all friendships are meant to last forever. Some were survival friendships. They're formed in chaos.
Tracey:They're held together by that shared trauma, that shared circumstance. Some are proximity friendships. So you're close because of geography. It may not even be a real alignment. Some are trauma bond friendships.
Tracey:You bonded in the wound. And then when you started healing, there was nothing else there to hold it together any longer. Some were convenience friendships. And some simply belong to a version of you that doesn't exist any longer. So the thing we need to know is that growth changes dynamics.
Tracey:Healing changes what you need. And when you grow, not everyone grows with you. And that is the nature of evolving human beings. The problem isn't that the friendship ended. The problem is the way we leave.
Tracey:Silent, sideways, with a stomach full of guilt that we never really process. So let's look at a historical context. I want to talk about why this feels so big because I don't think it's just social awkwardness. I think it does go a lot deeper. Women's friendships have historically been survival systems.
Tracey:So I think we always have to be willing in this section to also talk about the difference in experiences for women of different race. It's just it is what it is. And we've got to look at it my friends if we really are going to have some open and honest conversations. So black women built community networks for protection, mutual aid, and information sharing when institutions actively excluded them. So a good example is women in your grandmother's church circle.
Tracey:That was not just social, it was infrastructure. Immigrant women formed tight knit circles because in a new country, that circle was everything. Like you had the language, you had childcare, safety, belonging. Indigenous women's kinship system centered collective support and shared responsibility. So community was not optional.
Tracey:It was the structure that held everything else up. And even in the more constrained domestic spheres, women's circles served as their primary access to information, support, and agency when so many public doors were closed. So women's communities actually kept women alive, not metaphorically, actually. So when ending a friendship feels like a betrayal at some deep, almost cellular level, that's history. That's hundreds of years of women learning that losing your circle is dangerous.
Tracey:And culturally, we still reinforce it. So we glorify that ride or die female loyalty. We romanticize lifelong best friends, and we shame women who switch up or change when they evolve. But here's what I want to look at as just a plain truth. Staying in a friendship out of obligation, out of history, out of guilt, out of fear of being seen as someone who changed, that is not loyalty.
Tracey:And if we're honest about it, it's more self abandonment, dressed up to keep someone else's comfort level at the level they want. So let's reframe it. Because you are allowed to outgrow people. And I want to say it again because we probably need to hear it. You are allowed to outgrow people, And you are not a bad person when that happens.
Tracey:You are allowed to shift values without owing anyone an apology for it. You're allowed to decide that proximity does not equal intimacy. You're allowed to recognize that history alone is not a strong enough reason to maintain a relationship that costs you more than it gives you. Ending a friendship does not erase the good memories that existed. It doesn't retroactively suddenly now that friendship is meaningless.
Tracey:It just acknowledges that something has changed and acknowledging reality is not a cruelty. It acknowledges that something has changed. Now, I want to be fair here because not every friendship requires a formal ending. Some really do just drift naturally and both people feel okay about it. There's no unfinished business.
Tracey:There's no heaviness. It just kind of fades and both parties are okay with that. But if you are carrying guilt, that's usually a sign that there was something left unsaid. Something your nervous system knows that it needed to be spoken. And you don't owe everyone a dissertation.
Tracey:You don't need to write a thesis on why the friendship ran its course. We do that sometimes in our mind, but we don't have to. But what you do owe yourself and the other person is a small piece of honesty and not because it's comfortable because it's not always going to be comfortable. And when you live in silence that can just keep lingering. So ghosting avoids the discomfort of one conversation.
Tracey:Direct communication builds something, your integrity, your self respect, and occasionally a real and graceful ending that both of you can carry without weight. So, if this were allowed to be said, the way it should be, it would sound like this. I care about you and I'm just in a different season right now. Our values feel misaligned, and I think we've both felt it. I don't feel good in this dynamic anymore.
Tracey:And I think being honest is kinder than disappearing. This version of me needs different kinds of relationships. None of that is mean. None of that was a character assassination. It was just honest.
Tracey:And maybe even some uncomfortable honesty, but that creates cleaner endings than just disappearing ever will. So you can grieve and feel relief at the same time. Those emotions are not opposites. They're complex and grown women are allowed to hold complexity. You're allowed to feel sad that it's over and also know it needed to be over.
Tracey:You're allowed to miss the person and also recognize that being around them cost you something that you couldn't keep paying. So let's do our reflection. And I want you to sit with these for a minute. Who are you slowly disappearing from right now? And when you get honest with yourself, is that distance about avoidance?
Tracey:Or is it about growth? Because those feel similar from the outside, but they're very different on the inside. If you imagine having one honest conversation with that person, just one, does your body feel dread or does it feel lighter? Lean into that. Where are you confusing politeness with integrity?
Tracey:Because being polite by disappearing is still a choice. Silence is still a communication. You just don't get to author what that silence says. And here's the one thing that might sting a little, but we got to do it guys, if we're going to reflect. Are you holding on to someone because of who they are right now?
Tracey:Or because of who you used to be together? And what I mean by that is history is real, history matters. But sometimes it's not enough on its own. And you cannot build a present day relationship on nostalgia and guilt. And one more.
Tracey:Is there someone who has been slowly disappearing from you? And what are you making that mean about yourself? Because sometimes the ghost isn't the villain. Sometimes, they're just someone who didn't know how to say the thing. And that's about their own capacity and not about your worth.
Tracey:So in closing, ladies don't break up with friends, they ghost, and then they feel guilty. But guilt is heavy, and you don't have to carry relationships that no longer fit. You are allowed to evolve. You are allowed to shift. You are allowed to choose relationships that feel reciprocal, nourishing, and real.
Tracey:Sometimes growth creates distance. And sometimes healing changes your circle. And sometimes the most loving thing you can do for both of you is say what's true. Even if your voice shakes, even if it's awkward, and even if there's no perfect script for it, you say it anyway. And that the willingness to be honest when disappearing would have been easier.
Tracey:That is the most unladylike thing of all. Thanks for joining me today for That's Not Very Ladylike. If today's episode lit a fire, pushed your buttons or called a little BS on the stories we've been sold, share it with another woman who's tired of being told to tone it down, smile more, or play nice. And help a girl out by making sure you subscribe, leave a quick review, and catch me on Instagram at that hormone girl. And until next time, keep getting loud, messy, and raising hell because being ladylike is overrated.