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The Transform your Teaching podcast is a service of the Center for Teaching and Learning at Cedarville University in Cedarville, Ohio. Join Dr. Rob McDole and Dr. Jared Pyles as they seek to inspire higher education faculty to adopt innovative teaching and learning practices.
This is the Transform Your Teaching Podcast. The Transform Your Teaching Podcast is a service of the Center for Teaching and Learning at Cedarville University in Cedarville, Ohio.
Ryan:Hello, and
Ryan:welcome to our one hundredth episode of Transform Your Teaching. For our one hundredth episode, we wanted to do something special. So we've created a game called one hundred Second Segments in honor of our one hundredth episode. For this episode of the show, we've invited some previous guests, and our hosts have no idea who we've invited back on the show. They will see and discover who those people are as they enter the room or join us virtually.
Ryan:The interesting thing about this game is that the roles are reversed. Instead of our hosts asking our guests the questions, this time the guests will have a chance to ask our hosts the questions, The hosts will be put in the hot seat. Each time a guest asks a question, once they've completed their question, our hosts collectively have one hundred seconds to respond. If they go beyond that time, they're cut off. The question's over, Our guest maybe has a chance to respond or reply, and then a new guest comes on the show.
Ryan:We're so thankful to all our guests who've been willing to be on this show, and we're also thankful for you, the listener. Thanks for joining our one hundredth episode Transform Your Teaching.
Jared:Thank you, Ryan, for that minute and eleven second introduction.
Rob:That was great.
Jared:We are the Transform Your Teaching Podcast. This is episode 100. And I yeah. Wow. Crazy.
Rob:It's it's hard to believe.
Jared:It really is. And you've got your timer. I do. I'm ready. According to directions, we'll be cut off.
Jared:I'm not sure who's going to cut us off.
Mr L:I will.
Jared:You're gonna cut us off?
Mr L:I'll cut us off.
Jared:Is there gonna be like an like a a bell or anything? Because Jacob Jake no. Don't do that.
Jared:Alright. So the first guess, I just got a notification here. Doctor. Schulz.
Rob:Alright. Ready for the timer. Alright. Okay. They can see us.
Jared:They can see us. We can't
Rob:see Schultz, are
Mr L:you there?
Quentin Schultze:Alright. Here we go.
Jared:There he is. Alright. Are you ready, doctor Schulz?
Quentin Schultze:I was the first guest on your show.
Rob:Yes. You were.
Jared:You were.
Rob:And very gracious.
Jared:I mean
Quentin Schultze:I went to that studio, I saw you guys there, and I saw all of the technology people running around. And I said, I will give this podcast about 10 episodes before it crashes. And then I started listening to them and I thought, holy smokes, you guys are hitting it out of the park. So here's my question for you real quickly.
Jared:All right. All right.
Quentin Schultze:Based on a hundred episodes, if you were starting to teach now, what's the major thing you would do differently?
Jared:Starting to teach now, what would we do differently?
Rob:Yes.
Jared:You go first.
Rob:I would would pay attention to starting with the end in mind a lot more. Spend more time on my objectives. Spend more time on trying to figure out what I actually wanna accomplish and not just trying to make stuff up or start with the assignments first. That would be mine.
Jared:I would say student centered education is something that I failed to realize when I first started teaching, especially at college. I thought, Ah, college kids are responsible. They'll figure it out and everything else. And so I had students that didn't do well the first semester that I taught. And looking back, I thought, well, that's their own fault.
Jared:I presented the content. They should take care of it. It's their responsibility. It's a two way street, blah blah blah, all the other analogies that people used to say. But now realizing that how much more effort I could have put into, you know, meeting the needs of my students, I think that was a big thing.
Jared:I had to get off my adjunct instructor high horse, as it were, with my polished syllabus and my schedule and my assignments and everything else. And I had to realize that I needed to, instead of, you know, focus more on me as the educator, focus more on the students and and help them out. I think that's what I would do if I started teaching now.
Rob:Yeah. It helps you because you really think about your place Yeah. In the teaching learning, and it's not you. It's the center is not you.
Jared:Right.
Quentin Schultze:Thank you.
Jared:Well, that's one hundred seconds. Boom. We're done.
Quentin Schultze:Excellent.
Rob:Thank you, doctor Schulz. Thank you, sir.
Quentin Schultze:My pleasure.
Jared:Well, I'll well, I'll be on sometime soon because we we miss you. Thank you, sir. Alright. Alright. What's next?
Jared:That was easy. That was pretty good.
Jared:That
Jared:was What's going on next? The next guest is also virtual. Okay. Let them go ahead and start talking.
Rob:Yeah. Who is it? Let me see who it is.
Chris Miller:I have been so disappointed you didn't understand the initial Centimeters before. I feel so unloved.
Jared:I was shocked you didn't get that. Absolutely shocked.
Chris Miller:Doctor. Scholz had a great question. This may be too similar. If it is, you don't have to answer it. But what is the most important lesson about education you guys have learned through hosting this podcast?
Jared:Oh, wow.
Rob:I think it would have to go along with what Jared was talking about earlier, and that is you just make a lot of assumptions about where your students are coming from. And I think what I've learned is that their background is a lot more different than mine. And I made a lot of assumptions about things that they would know, things that they would do, things that they had affinity towards or had attitudes of positivity, if I may say that, towards. And those are just blind spots. So understanding that, I think, has been very helpful, Jared.
Jared:That's such a good question. Of course, the OT professor has come up with these fantastic questions. I think, know, Rob, something you do so well is that you always bring up why it is that we do things. What is the philosophy behind what it is that we're doing? Because it all comes from a certain place.
Jared:All of our actions, all the decisions we make come from that. And I didn't think too deeply about that until we started this podcast. And I think that's something that plays a big factor in education is, okay, what are the decisions that I'm making? What are the decisions my students are making and what is the root cause of Don't fix the symptom, fix the actual problem, what it is. And that's something that I've learned a lot about and more about as we've done this podcast.
Rob:Yeah. Well, that's it.
Jared:That's it. I said philosophy. Philosophy.
Rob:Thank you. Thank you, doctor Miller.
Jared:Doctor CS. Alright. Well, another guest is virtual. So Okay. We'll see what happens.
Genny McDole:Alright. I was a guest on episode 63.
Jared:60 three?
Rob:That sounds like
Jared:I don't wanna get this wrong.
Rob:Say that again.
Genny McDole:I was a guest on episode 63.
Rob:Like my wife.
Jared:Oh, get out of here. I don't wanna
Genny McDole:Ding. Ding. Ding. Ding. Ding.
Genny McDole:Ding.
Jared:Unbelievable.
Genny McDole:Welcome to this episode. This is so exciting. A hundred episodes. It's been so cool to have a front row seat to see how much prayer has gone into this. You guys have just done such a great job.
Genny McDole:So well done. Whole TCTL team.
Jared:Genny, do you know how much I pray while in the episodes with your husband during the recording?
Rob:As much as she prays for living with me.
Genny McDole:As much as I pray when I'm
Genny McDole:at work praying for all you guys.
Jared:I'm sure you can sympathize.
Genny McDole:Here's my question. One of the things that we have talked about over the years, particularly Rob, Jared, I wanna hear from you too. As Christian educators, we're always seeking to be spirit led in our teaching and educational endeavors. And we have talked often about how every content area reflects the character of God and should draw us and those we teach closer to him. So my question is, over the last year, in all the topics that you've discussed on air and in the office, because I know there's a lot of that that goes on.
Genny McDole:What is the area that sticks out to you where the character of God and his sovereignty has meant the most? And how can you apply what you've learned about him with others that you teach and serve? Essay question. Go.
Jared:In a hundred seconds. Oh, my word.
Genny McDole:Yep. In a hundred seconds. Okay.
Jared:Where it's seen the most.
Rob:Where I've seen it the most. I have to go back to and this is I have to go back to probably what I see from Matthew twenty two thirty seven through 40. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. The second commandment is like it. Love your neighbor as yourself.
Rob:And and that servant teaching that we've been talking about for, you know, having doctor Schultz on for the first episode and then just really digging into that deeper understanding that mindset. And I guess for me, it's just thinking through that personally. How have I applied it? I'm trying to, like currently in my own teaching role, think about how I'm serving my students well.
Jared:Well, immediately go to language arts and how the sovereignty of God is seen and the way God speaks and the words that we use and the literature that we read. And I can see God's working in authors that aren't necessarily those that are Christian, but you see the same literary devices in those authors as you would in Scripture. And it's not because they came up with stuff on their own, it's because that God did it first. Yeah. And he created the symbolism and the allegory and everything else that we see in Scripture, and it shows up in literature as well.
Jared:That's it. One hundred seconds. We're getting really good at this.
Rob:Man, that was hard, though.
Jared:Thank you, missus McDowell.
Rob:I don't know if I did really well. She's probably gonna give me a grade letter.
Genny McDole:You're welcome. You did fat pills, both of you. Good job.
Jared:Thank you so much. Alright. Our next our next guest is in person.
Rob:So we'll see. Oh my.
Jared:I can't see.
Rob:Oh my.
Jared:Doctor Hutchison. Yes. Our good friend, doctor Hutchison. He even brought the paper. Is that the same paper that you used when you were here the previous episode?
Rob:That's a
Rob:new one. He he brought
Jared:it back
Thomas Hutchison:up and find that one in the file. That's a new We go way back. Episode six is what they tell me.
Rob:Yes.
Thomas Hutchison:So we were right on the cutting edge of you guys still dreaming about what this was gonna become.
Jared:Yeah. And here we are. Yeah.
Rob:You've definitely, what's the word I'm looking for here?
Jared:Been good.
Rob:You've been good. No. I mean, foundational. I mean, to my own personal life as a student when I was here. Yeah.
Rob:Informing a lot of this.
Jared:And doctor Hutch was one of my first builds as an ID as in my current position at Cedarville.
Thomas Hutchison:I've have very much appreciated the questions you're raising and the way you're going at learning and growing and pushing us to do the same and just having a resource to bounce ideas off of and help make me be a little more effective, use my time more efficiently. I just really appreciated your input into this whole conversation and for me personally as well. It's great.
Jared:What you got? You have a lot there.
Rob:I know. It's one question and he's got three paragraphs.
Thomas Hutchison:Well, did I thought through several questions, but a lot of it coming back to kind of most memorable quote, what stands out, those kinds of things. But there's honestly another issue that feels a little more personal that I'd like you to respond to. The classroom feels a lot different today than it did when I started teaching thirty years ago or a couple decades ago when I had one of you as a student. Yeah. Honestly, as I began, it all felt a lot more personal that you were in your degree program or just out of it.
Thomas Hutchison:The ideas were fresh. You were wrestling with life experiences and grappling with life yourself, and then you were face to face in a classroom looking students in the eye and talking to them. They were handing you papers. Times we were praying over those assignments as they turned them in and reflecting on them. The handwritten notes, the hallways, it all felt very personal, like you were somehow engaging life on life.
Thomas Hutchison:And as we've progressed, technology started out being a nice tool to add that and to help that. But in some ways it feels more like technology is now leading the way. You spend so much of your time managing information and packaging information. You're communicating from a distance. You're setting up the learning platforms.
Thomas Hutchison:Even when you have them in a class, you see them and they leave and all your communication happens from a distance through the So out of everything you've been hearing and what you're wrestling with as we, you know, technology's here, How do you keep learning personal and actually be engaging people as people to watch them learn how to think and grow and believe and grow and living out the gospel in the midst of managing this whole process of learning?
Rob:So I think for myself, it's a it is a struggle. Because one of the things I've learned is relationship is so important in learning. If a student is going to take, you know, a self determined or what I would call a reflection of God's character in themselves, that means they're gonna take ownership of their learning. How can they do that? Well, it requires others.
Rob:There has to be a real relationship. And you're not wrong, the technology has caused a great gap there. I think the thing that I've been thinking through and wrestling with is how can I do that in my classes? Use technology to convey the content, but still somehow figure out a way to actually have deeper relationships, not shallow, and and not look to certain things in order to have that
Jared:Mhmm.
Rob:Happen. You know, not put my hope in the discussion board necessarily for creating relationship, as an example.
Jared:It's funny. We talked about Vygotsky in our last episode of the and talked about zoned proximal development with students and meeting them where they are and helping them take the next step. I think the same can be true with with the technology that we have. I think we need to meet the students where they are technologically. If they're using Canvas messages to communicate with us, we need to pour into that because you can still have that personal connection with them even just through a Canvas announcement showing that you're a real person, like replacing those real conversations you'd have after class, moving those into a discussion or Canvas online, using the technology for that purpose.
Jared:One hundred seconds.
Rob:One hundred seconds. But I I will say there's more to say on this. Yeah. Well, I think that's a great topic. Yeah.
Rob:I think that's a topic we need to have, and maybe we'll bring you back and
Thomas Hutchison:we can have a conversation. More of your input
Jared:than that. Maybe next week. You're not busy, are you?
Thomas Hutchison:Hey. Thanks so much for all your work.
Rob:Appreciate the
Jared:chance talk We appreciate you.
Thomas Hutchison:Glad to celebrate with you.
Jared:Alright. Next guest is also in person.
Rob:Uh-oh. We got another in person. Revolving door. See who it is. I I like
Jared:you see it first. Oh, man. Professor Mishne. Eric Mishne, who I'm building a course with right now. My second build with him.
Eric Mishne:It's true.
Rob:Well, this isn't gonna be an opportunity to talk about deadlines.
Eric Mishne:Yeah. We're not gonna talk shop
Jared:Who's doing what? Question isn't about the second module in our course or anything like that
Eric Mishne:or rubrics or I could ask a how do I do this in Canvas question.
Mr L:You know,
Jared:you should you should do it like, you know what, Rob? I'm working with someone who's very difficult to work with. How do you
Eric Mishne:how do you manage workplace conflict?
Rob:Well, as the leading communications professional in the room, I would
Jared:just Defer to me. Defer to you. That's me. Alright,
Eric Mishne:sir. My question. When you sit down for a period of time that you know needs to be productive, like you're sitting down, maybe it's an intense Canvas build or, like, I've got to get a bunch of work done in this section of time, How do you get in the zone?
Jared:Oh. Can I answer first? Go. I like lo fi hip hop. Oh.
Jared:I go to a YouTube channel and I either listen to lo fi hip hop, which I use for work, And it's just there's a channel on YouTube that streams twenty four seven and it's just nice rhythmic music to listen to. The other thing I really got into was when I was writing my dissertation to get into the zone was synth wave music, which has like certain types of sound, certain frequencies that really makes you concentrate. The other thing I would do besides music is I had a Pomodoro timer. Have you heard of Pomodoro, that method? Twenty five minutes on, five minutes off, and you have a timer.
Jared:And then after a certain number of Pomodoros, twenty five minute sessions, you get like a fifteen minute break. That would motivate that motivated you to get to a point where, okay, I can for the next twenty five. I get a five minute break. So and even during the five minutes, you don't consume, like, any technology. You don't look at your phone.
Jared:You just simply sit or just exist or read for five minutes. You just it's fantastic. So lo fi, hip hop, synth wave, pomodoro.
Rob:I gotta go fast. So
Jared:You got twenty five seconds.
Rob:Mine's simple. I use free writing. So free writing is extremely helpful. Those of you wanna you can just look it up. It's basically you time yourself, short time length, you give yourself an open ended prompt.
Rob:You don't worry about anything, you just keep your hands moving. You do that. I also use lo fi on Apple Music. So that's that's how I do it.
Eric Mishne:Okay. And I'm assuming you're both drinking a cup of coffee in the zone.
Jared:Yep. I usually don't drink coffee in the zone. Time's up. Sorry. But I drink water in the zone.
Jared:Okay.
Eric Mishne:Well, that's good. Yeah. This gets better for you. Yeah. Thank you both so much.
Eric Mishne:Thank you, sir.
Jared:Thanks for coming in.
Thomas Hutchison:That was
Jared:fast. Didn't
Rob:see got
Jared:that one. Yeah. That was good. The next guest will be virtual. Okay.
Jared:Alright, virtual person.
Rob:Just gotta talk
Kim Woodruff:Hi there. Hello. Was on episodes numbers fifty four and ninety five.
Jared:It's Kim Woodruff.
Rob:Is it Hi.
Jared:It is Kim Woodruff.
Rob:It's your friend.
Jared:It's my friend, Kim Woodruff. Boys. Hey, Kim. Oh my goodness. How are you, Kim?
Kim Woodruff:Oh, I'm always so happy to see you. So I'm gonna go with a non I'm gonna go with a fun question.
Rob:Oh, good. As
Kim Woodruff:a as a non Cedarville person, I want the digs. If I were to come visit you in Cedarville, what food would you take me to eat?
Jared:Well, your options are limited. In Cedarville,
Kim Woodruff:you can take we can drive somewhere. That's okay.
Jared:Yeah. Wait. Let's let's let's stop the timer. Let's get a can we do a stop a timer to get
Rob:a clarification? Clarification. Yeah.
Jared:In or out of Cedarville, which would you prefer?
Rob:In the area.
Kim Woodruff:Where wherever you would take me if I came to visit you.
Jared:Oh, okay. Now that's a little
Kim Woodruff:bit people visiting?
Jared:That's a little bit harder.
Rob:Well, I'm ready.
Jared:Okay. Go ahead.
Rob:So we'd probably go if you like Chinese, we go to Fu Man Lo, which is a very fun spot that we like to go to down in Centreville.
Jared:Yes. Is that where that's at? Mhmm.
Rob:And then if it's German, like, gastropub what's that called? Yield is it Yield Tavern?
Jared:What is it? Springs.
Rob:Spring, which is a historic building.
Jared:Yep.
Rob:And then there's Young's.
Jared:There is Young's. There's also Bill's Donuts. If we want other dessert options, we can do that as well.
Rob:What about you? Well, you got Colonials.
Jared:Colonial for sure. I just had Colonial and I'm burping it up, so it's going really well.
Jared:Fantastic pizza place that's been here for
Jared:how long is it? Was Colonial here when you were still
Jared:here?
Rob:Oh,
Jared:yeah. So at least three decades.
Rob:But it moved. It wasn't in the location that it is in
Jared:right So we can do that. Lola's Mexican is good here in Cedarville as well. What's the name of that place we went to that looks like it's in an old school, but, like, they renovated it? It was the Mexican place that has
Rob:Senor Piquin.
Jared:Senor Piquin. Yeah. That's a really good place as well. Yeah. And then for coffee, you have to hit up Beans and Cream here in Cedarville.
Jared:That's, like, the staple. We used to go here in campus and get ranova, and that's got that's got good coffee.
Rob:Ranova is good because they're using
Jared:Good beans.
Rob:Good beans. Yeah. That's it.
Jared:That's it. Thank you, Kim. What a great question.
Kim Woodruff:Awesome. Good seeing you guys.
Jared:You too.
Rob:Have a
Kim Woodruff:great day. Congratulations.
Rob:Thank you.
Jared:Thank you. Alright. Next guest is in person.
Rob:Who? Dents in
Jared:the middle school.
Rob:Oh, hey.
Jared:Hey. It's my good friend, Jeff Simon. Yes. Professor Simon. Professor Simon, who we went to school together.
Jared:Is this gonna be a question about our time together as students?
Rob:No. I didn't I didn't dive into answer that one.
Jeff Simon:Rob can answer that. But yeah. So I'm Jeff Simon, and
Jeff Simon:I was here way back on episode 27. So excited to be back.
Jeff Simon:Love to
Jared:see you guys. You've aged.
Jeff Simon:I know. It's been really stressful.
Jared:I could tell.
Jeff Simon:The more I listen to the podcast, the grayer
Jared:I get.
Rob:So You too.
Jared:Alright. What you got, sir?
Jeff Simon:Alright. So I I have two. I have a real one and a fun one. Okay. Real one's not very fun.
Jared:Good.
Rob:So I'm confused now. Are you ready? Are you ready?
Jared:For it. Let's go.
Jeff Simon:What is one topic or item you were really excited to dive into but ended up either being surprised or even better, disappointed by what you found?
Jared:I would say active learning. Not because I didn't enjoy it, because I really didn't know what it was until I got into it. Rob and I had many conversations about, yeah, but do you really know what active learning is? And I'm like, yes, I do. And then I was like, no, I don't.
Jeff Simon:Every guest.
Jared:Maria was like, no, that's not it. That's also
Jared:not it. So yeah, I would say for me, and that's something I wanna go back and explore is active learning for sure, because I feel like that would I feel like I didn't do a good enough job at the time. I felt like I was learning it as I went, and it wasn't really a good way of conveying that information.
Rob:So I would have to say competency based education for myself. One that surprised me was doctor Woolvard. The fact that he was doing competency based education in a group setting. So, basically, like what we normally do here at Sevierville, but he was doing competency based education in that form, not just a student being by themselves. So I kind of was taken aback by that.
Rob:And that was more of an excitement, not a disappointment, I think.
Jared:Yeah. I I caught on to the call that you had with with him, not to spoil anything a while back, and just the stuff that he's presenting is just incredible. The stuff that he's doing there in Perth is makes me wanna visit.
Rob:Yeah.
Jared:Can we go to Australia? Maybe? Some
Rob:point our direction. Done now.
Jared:So alright. Okay. Yeah.
Jeff Simon:No. I would just say, yeah, just for me, listening through both of those series was really eye opening for me and let me think of ways that I would adjust my classes as well and try some new things.
Jared:Hey. You know Let's let's it's Jeff. Let's have him ask his fun question too.
Rob:Okay. Alright.
Jared:And we'll pick which one we wanna use.
Rob:Neither. Scrubbed. Cut. We still have to do it in a hundred and seconds.
Jeff Simon:I know. Okay. AU, this won't take you a hundred. Okay. When they make a Lifetime or Hallmark movie about this podcast, who do you want to play your role?
Jared:Is this a chat GPT question?
Rob:No. My word.
Jeff Simon:I was lying in bed thinking
Jared:about this. I don't
Rob:I want I want the the mountie from When Calls the Heart to be the guy that plays me.
Jared:What's his name?
Rob:I don't know his name.
Jeff Simon:Okay. Chet.
Jared:His name is definitely Chet. I so the what's the name of the guy? Again, someone else. There was a guy from This Is Us when that show was really popular. Toby.
Jared:Yeah. That guy. Like, I got looks from people when I was walking around Columbus because they thought I was that guy. And I'm like, okay. Whatever.
Jared:Anyway, so maybe him or, my uncle is on the other side of the glass, and he would appreciate this. Kevin James. Because, Kevin James' stand up, sweat the small stuff, it was is me to a t. And, I think I would be honored if he played me in the Hallmark movie about this podcast.
Rob:Well, if we're trying to be more realistic, then maybe Zach Galifianyk is for me.
Jared:You know? I I told you when I first met you that I thought you were a mix between him and Ron from Parks and Rec. Ron Swanson? Ron Swanson.
Rob:Yeah. My kids what is that guy's name? I can't think
Jared:of his name right now. Alright. Thank you, professor Jeff Simon.
Jeff Simon:I was really thinking, like, you know, Keanu Reeves and, you know, Tom Cruise here.
Jared:You're just being generous.
Rob:Tom Cruise? Really?
Nate Brock:No. Not
Rob:really. I'm not anywhere close. I don't do my own stuff.
Jeff Simon:Would be great. He's already a podcast expert with Between Two Ferns. So you
Jared:know? Oh, yeah. Alright.
Jeff Simon:Thank you.
Jared:Thank thank you, sir. Thanks for coming in. Is that it? Who's next? Our next guest is virtual.
Jared:Okay. According to the
Rob:person is going to speak to us.
Nate Brock:I am speaking now.
Jared:Just want hear this. Immediately.
Nate Brock:No. And Jared?
Jared:Know what it is exactly.
Rob:Who?
Nate Brock:I was on episode number 62.
Jared:On? And what was the topic, my friend?
Rob:I don't remember.
Jared:I'm asking you, mystery guest.
Nate Brock:You just referenced part of it with
Rob:Is this Nate?
Nate Brock:Competency based education.
Rob:This is Nate.
Jared:It is Nate Brock. I still wanna pull up and say hi to him, but I feel like I can't.
Nate Brock:It's not nearly as serious as the ones that I've just been mentioned. Aliens have come down, and they're ready to take over the world. And it is your responsibility to prove your worth by completing at least one video game level or achieving a high score in said video game level. Which one are you choosing? Which game?
Nate Brock:Which level? What are you choosing to demonstrate your worth as a human being to the alien overlords?
Jared:This is a great question.
Rob:Wow. I would have to say Snake IO, and I'd go for, I don't know, 250,000 points. How's that?
Jared:That's pretty good. Believe it or not, before this podcast, when I was driving in this morning, I had I was playing through this podcast in my head, and I thought, if Nate is on here
Rob:He's gonna ask
Jared:this sort of video game question. So I already have an answer prepared for this. Tony Hawk two, Airport, and the rails that are down there in the the bottom of the level, and you pick Spider Manage your character, and you just rail and just back and forth and build up the combo until you get the high score that you need. I think that would I would prove my worth to aliens by playing Tony Hawk two by far.
Nate Brock:Wow. With Morning View playing in the background
Jared:of the Xbox. Morning view. If I had to pick another one, it would be is it Tony Hawk three or four that has the cruise ship with the pool?
Nate Brock:Was it three or four? Cruise ship is three.
Jared:Three. Yeah. That's also a good one too. With with Chevelle playing in the background. How was that, Nathaniel?
Nate Brock:Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it.
Jared:Alright. Next guest is also virtual. Oh, okay.
Jim Stevenson:Coming live to you from episode 76.
Jared:Jim. You know what, Jim?
Jim Stevenson:Wow. That was that was quick. I I would say it's great to see you guys, but I'm not sure about that.
Jared:I I it's great to hear
Jim Stevenson:you guys. You we all have faces for radio, but That's true. Guys. Congratulations on what you guys have built. This is two part.
Jim Stevenson:My first one is a really silly one, but it's important, and I think listeners wanna know.
Jared:K.
Jim Stevenson:Who has the better singing voice?
Jared:Oh, Rob in a heart that's that's not even a Rob does in a heartbeat. Really? You should hear Rob serenade in the office. It's ridiculous. You should come in sometimes, Jim, just to hear it.
Jared:It's fantastic.
Jim Stevenson:I I am in. I am in. I will, put that on on my shortlist. Higher ed is not the most nimble thing in the world. We know that.
Jared:It
Jim Stevenson:prioritizes some crazy things like being published in a journal nobody reads or something like that. I'm curious how you think, what are the things that higher ed's gonna need to do to become more nimble, or even if do you think it needs to become more nimble? Well, what are those things we're going to need to do to become more nimble and prioritize different things than some things that just don't even exist in the marketplace anymore. So it's really around nimbleness and what do we prioritize as an institution of what's important.
Jared:Oh. Well, I
Rob:I feel like we're the wrong people to ask that question. I don't know. I
Jared:I have an answer.
Rob:Go ahead.
Jared:Flexible modalities when it comes to Yeah. Finishing content. I I think that is something that has to be we can't get stuck in the semester by semester, twelve weeks, fourteen weeks, eight weeks, and it has to be stuck that way.
Jared:We have to come up with, you know, competency based. It has to be embraced or something where it's asynchronous and let the student finish on their own time and keep it a enriching, accredited way of consuming content. I
Rob:think the key is going to have to be figuring out a way to do what Jared's saying, but also be able to transform our business models that we use in higher education. Some of those things may happen internally, and some of them may happen externally, you know, be motivated externally in more time.
Jared:Yeah. I have a follow-up, Jim Stevenson. What are your thoughts on Lewis Hamilton coming to Ferrari?
Jim Stevenson:Oh, this is tough for me. As you know, I'm torn. It's I am now a I am now a Charles Leclerc fan.
Jim Stevenson:Attaboy.
Jim Stevenson:Attaboy. And I've always been a Ferrari guy. Always been a Ferrari guy, but, man, do I want him to dominate. Because it's good for Ferrari either
Jared:way. Right? For Ferrari. Yes.
Jim Stevenson:Yeah. It's good for the brand. It's good for the brand, but I am now a or should I say, Charles Leclerc?
Jared:Charles Leclerc. Yeah.
Jim Stevenson:I tell you what Even though he says Charles Leclerc.
Jared:Yeah. Lewis looks good in the red. I'll tell you. Let me tell you. But I'm just saying anyway, just saying.
Jim Stevenson:Man. I love it. Thanks for sneaking it in there, man. No problem. Absolutely.
Jim Stevenson:I knew they could count on you for that. Guys, congratulations on it. I love your chemistry, and I love being a part of it.
Jared:Thanks, brother. Appreciate it. Alright. Next guest is in person.
Rob:Hey. Hey. Hey.
Jared:You were just over there. Jim Leitenheimer.
Rob:Hey. I saw him earlier. I'm just telling you.
Mr L:Coming to you from episode seven and thirty one.
Jared:You wanna give us the weather on the tens there while you're doing that? Sure.
Mr L:What do you want it to be?
Jared:Let's let's make it let's make it a balmy 43. That's gonna happen.
Mr L:We're gonna go sunny in 72.
Rob:Sunny in 72.
Mr L:On Route 72.
Jared:We are. Yeah. Uh-huh. Alright.
Rob:Alright. You got the question, sir.
Mr L:Yeah. Other than this podcast, this this one is out of bounds. What is your favorite podcast that you listen to?
Jared:P one with Matt and Tommy is a Formula One podcast that I enjoy listening to. Two British gentlemen who are very fanatic about f one. So I'll listen to that on drives after races and stuff like that to get a recap. So I'd say p one with Matt and Tommy. They even do stuff during the off season as well.
Rob:Mine is oh, yeah. Brain science. I like listening to that one. And then the Freakonomics radio. I like that.
Rob:I would have to say probably brain science is the one that entertains me the most. Cool.
Jared:The one that I listened to a while back, I haven't listened to 20 is it 20,000 hertz?
Mr L:Oh, 20,000 hertz. Great podcast.
Jared:It's so good. It's so well designed. Oh, tremendous sound design. Yeah. So
Mr L:can I squeeze in another oh, sorry? Go ahead.
Rob:No. Go ahead. I was gonna just say people I mostly admire. Occasionally. Occasionally.
Rob:Is that a podcast or you
Jared:just saying? Podcast.
Rob:Not a show. Those are the ones I I listen to.
Mr L:If I can squeeze another one in, please.
Jared:For it.
Mr L:Dream guest. Who would be your dream guest if you could have anybody on this program?
Rob:Dream guest. I gotta reset this. You know what? Because that that's a
Jared:That's a really good question. We need to get the timer going for that one.
Rob:Yeah. Go.
Jared:My first thought, and it's strictly because of the amount of conversation we've had around it, probably Salman Khan from Khan Academy. That would be someone really, really good to have on to talk generative AI and what what Convigo and Khan Academy is doing to to get that.
Rob:I would think it'd be kinda cool to have Neil Postman on.
Jared:Yeah. Just because to be educational related, or can it be whatever we want it to be? Hey. You answer the question. Alright.
Jared:Could be
Mr L:whatever you want it to For
Rob:me, it was I was headed down the educational.
Jared:Yes. I was too.
Rob:If it was just anyone? Oh. Wow.
Jared:Let's see. Anybody.
Rob:I I would like to have Mike Rowe on at some point. I would Dirty Jobs, Mike Rowe? Yeah. Because doctor Schultz had a was on his podcast.
Jared:Oh, really? Yeah. We're get doctor Schultz.
Rob:We need doctor Schultz to help him help us hook up to to
Jared:Mike Rowe.
Rob:I think the thing I like about him is that, you know, I grew up watching that show. Yeah. You know? And I had an appreciation for just blue collar jobs and the hard work people did, and I thought it was it was very interesting. I'm just curious to hear how many you know, he did so many episodes.
Rob:The man's got a wealth of Right. Knowledge just from those things alone. Absolutely. Yeah.
Jared:That's a good question, sir. Thanks for your help. I appreciate that.
Mr L:Hey. Pleasure to be here.
Rob:Yeah. We didn't say Joe Rogan.
Jared:We didn't say Joe Rogan. We should've, I guess. Oh, well. Alright. Our next guest is also in person.
Rob:How many more do we have?
Jared:I don't know. The list keeps going on. The the people.
Rob:Oh, lucky here. Our Lucky here.
Jared:Our good friend and coworker, doctor Hye Song Ye.
Rob:He is from down the hall.
Jared:Just from down the hall. I'm so happy you came
Rob:break the surprise. Bet.
Haisong :Of course, I'm excited. 100. Right?
Jared:100. Yeah. Hundred. Yeah. You just off off the cuff, your your episode on objectives is one of my favorites we've ever done.
Jared:It was so very good.
Haisong :Thank you.
Jared:Yeah. It's just a it's a brief glimpse into what it's like in our office where we are just like in awe of his brilliance
Rob:and Yeah.
Jared:Hey, how do I fix this problem? It's fantastic.
Haisong :No. You two are the rock.
Rob:Oh. No.
Haisong :You need to see
Jared:the show
Rob:right now.
Jared:Yeah. Okay. Thank you, but no.
Rob:Alright. Come on, teammate. Let's go.
Haisong :This is 100.
Jared:Yes.
Haisong :So what have you learned from each other by cohosting this podcast?
Rob:You get to go first.
Jared:Oh, thanks.
Rob:He already asked us this question.
Jared:He did? Yeah. Remember? The one about
Rob:He asked us this question when he came in and we were testing things out. What did I we learn?
Jared:What did I say?
Rob:I don't remember. I don't remember either.
Jared:I think I've already mentioned it, but I think Rob's ability to speak to the philosophy and the background of why we do things is something that I have put into practice. And it's made me think a lot about, you know, why it is we do what we do and what's the motivation behind it when it comes to educational practices and the reactions our students have to assignments and how well they do when we assess them. It all comes from some place. And at first, I was totally rolling my eyes about how much he talked about it. But then I'm like, you know what?
Jared:He's actually right. So I should probably listen to him. So, yeah, that's mine.
Rob:I would have to say Jared's talent, in general, I've been in awe of that, you know, amazed by God that he he put us all together, every single one of us at the right time, the right place to have these conversations. And I know that every single person that is a part of the show makes it possible. And there's no doubt about that. That's what I've learned is that it's better for us as a group to do things than to do it alone.
Jared:I think that's what you said when we practiced. Yeah. Yeah. Appreciate
Haisong :it. I didn't ask this question.
Rob:Yes. You did.
Haisong :No.
Jared:Didn't. Did you ask about coffee? No. No. That was Jacob.
Rob:Well, somebody asked us that question
Jared:when we
Rob:were practicing.
Jared:I'm not sure who did that, but
Rob:I think it was Ryan.
Jared:So doctor Haisong is our last guest, but we are leaving it open for anyone who has a second question. Does anyone have any additional questions they would like to ask us?
Quentin Schultze:Hey. This is great listening to you guys.
Jared:Thank you, sir. I appreciate that.
Quentin Schultze:It's reflection on what we do. What you're doing in the podcast and now reflecting on it is what we all do in our teaching. We do it, we reflect on it, we make changes, we do it some more. It's just great. I'm so honored to be here with you guys today.
Quentin Schultze:And I love your winsome spirit about it too, because teaching can be so stressful and anxiety producing. And I think the winsomeness when we get together to talk about it is just great.
Jared:Wow. Oh, we appreciate you saying that. Okay. Are done? Are we I think we're done.
Jared:All right. To our team's guests, thanks so much for coming on.
Rob:Yes. Thank you all.
Jared:Appreciate all of our listeners and helping us out with bringing this podcast. Let's do a hundred more and maybe another hundred or something like that.
Rob:So another two years of this.
Jared:Yeah. Another two years. Let's do it. Let's do it. Alright.
Jared:What do you think? Alright. Lord willing.
Ryan:Yep. Thanks, y'all. Thanks for joining us for this one hundredth episode of Transform Your Teaching. We look forward to the next 100 episodes, and we're grateful to you, the listener, as you contribute to all that we do here at Transform Your Teaching. Don't forget to like and subscribe to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform.
Ryan:Also, free to send us an email if you have any questions or comments or even ideas for the show: CTLPodcastcedarville dot edu. You can also read our blog. It's found at cedarville.edu/focusblog. Thanks for listening.