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When life gets hard, does what we think we believe hold us up, or does it crumble under the weight of doubt? I'm your host, Dr. Lee Warren- I'm a brain surgeon, author, and a person who's seen some stuff and wondered where God is in all this mess. This is The Spiritual Brain Surgery podcast, where we'll take a hard look at what we believe, why we believe it, and the neuroscience behind how our minds and our brains can smash together with faith to help us become healthier, feel better, and be happier so we can find the hope to withstand anything life throws at us. You've got questions, and we're going to do the hard work to find the answers, but you can't change your life until you change your mind, and it's gonna take some spiritual-brain surgery to get it done. So let's get after it.
Friend, we're back. It's a rainy Sunday afternoon on the river here in November.
I can't believe it's November, Ty. No, I can't either.
And it's been two months since we did Tuesdays with Ty.
I know. We've been on sabbatical. We have been on sabbatical. We're back.
Friend, thank you for your patience. We have launched season 12 of the Dr.
Lee Warren podcast, and we are back with spiritual brain surgery.
And Tata and I are here on the eve. Actually, you're going to hear this on the
day of the United States presidential election. Yes, yes.
So we are praying that you will get out and vote and exercise your civic duty.
Absolutely. And we want to stress that this is you're obligated to do that because
you're a citizen of this country. That's right.
So we believe in exercising our right to vote and whichever candidate you feel
led to support, you ought to get out and do that.
And that's enough said about politics. Absolutely.
We're not about to open that can of worms, are we? No, not today.
It's been a little while since we did this talk. We're at about but a little
over 100 episodes of Tuesdays with Tata, which is amazing.
Oh, that's stunning. I can't even comprehend that number.
But we had a couple of people write in and wanted a recap or a repeat of an
episode to talk about favorite scriptures.
Yeah. And so we're going to talk about some of Tata's and some of my favorite scriptures today.
Let's just get started, Tata, maybe with a prayer. Would you just so we're getting
the word of God, we ought to be ready to do that.
Father, we give you thanks for this day that you have made and we rejoice in it.
We thank you for all of our blessings and yes father we are we are disconcerted
because it is it's gray and gloomy but we are so thankful for the rain and we're
so thankful for the moisture
and i know that the farmers are thankful for that as well but why we thank you
for all of our blessings thank you for being mindful of us thank you for watching
over us protecting us from harm especially the little ones and father we ask
your blessings on this that you would guide us that you would put your words
on our heart that you would put your words on our lips not for your glory, not ours.
And we ask all of this in the sweet and precious name of Jesus Christ,
our Lord and Savior, your Son and our Redeemer. Amen.
Amen. Thank you, Ta-ta. Let's dive right in. What's your first verse that you
want to talk about today?
John 3.16. And I'm reminded that I know that you see this at many sporting events.
I can think of one athlete that wears it on his face. Yeah, the sign.
And the guy is always in the crowd with the sign, John 3.16.
John 3.16. Most famous verse in the Bible, probably. Absolutely.
And that verse is so profound because it starts out, For God so loved the world.
He loved the world, that He sent, He gave us His only Son, that whoever believes
in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
And if you think about that word, believes, remember that the disciples were
asking Jesus at once point in time, what work do we have to do to be saved?
He said, believe. That's right.
And so this verse is very important to me because Because one of the things
that I often think about, and it's not of anything that I do consciously, but sometimes, me?
God, you love me?
It's hard to, and because in John, in 1 John, or 2 John, I'm not sure,
I think it's 1 John, we believe that he is, and we haven't seen him.
We know he's there, but we haven't seen him. That's right.
We speak to him, but he doesn't speak to us that we think, except right here
in this God's word in the Bible.
But this verse is very important to me because that is the foundation of our faith.
That's right. And I think that many times we take it lightly,
and I don't think we should.
I think we should take this very seriously. And please know these are in no
particular order, and I have some comments that I'll make that are personal.
But in John 14, 6, in Jesus, he was talking to Thomas.
In that chapter, Jesus was talking about his departure, and he was encouraging his disciples.
But Thomas always, where are you going? We don't know where you're going.
Tell us where you're going. That's right.
And then later, Jesus even talks to Philip in that same chapter.
But Jesus said to Thomas, to him, I am the way and the truth and the life.
No one comes to the Father except through me. That's right.
That is very strong. Very strong. The way and the truth and the life.
And no one comes to the Father except through him.
It's interesting that we have a lot of people in
our society today that are teaching basically every
path leads to truth every every religion gets you
to heaven in fact we recently uh were
involved in a young woman who's from ethiopia lives
in london who reached out from something that i wrote and we connected her with
pete greg's church in london and she's become safe she was muslim but she's
become saved now but she was living in that all paths to truth everything as
long as you're seeking you'll find yeah and then when she realized that that
she wasn't finding anything that brought her peace in Islam,
she started reading John and found her way to the way and the truth and the
life. And now she's saved and she's feeling it.
And I think it's remarkable how.
A dedicated pursuit of truth doesn't lead you to your truth it leads you to
the church that's right and that's what we want we need because at the end of
this there is something that's right,
and then first peter 5 7 casting your cares on him because he cares for you
and the for years This was Patty Suits, my wife's memory verse.
But I remember on one occasion when the minister at Oak Hill,
Max Lakedo, was talking about anxiety.
And she whispered in my ear, he's talking to me.
That didn't dawn on me. I could not even compute that because I'd never seen
her in those kind of moments being anxious about anything.
But I can imagine some of the things that we went through would cause anxiety.
And I think that probably if I put that in some kind of perspective,
that I would think that was about the time her health began to fail.
She was aware of that, but one of the things that she did not confide in me.
But think about that. Think about the word cast.
And if you're a fisherman you use you can
understand that unless you get a bird nest in
your reel that's right but but casting as far
as you can throw your cares that's right because jesus cares for you god cares
for you i heard a preacher say that one time we cast but we didn't reel back
in yeah i don't want to really back yes no we do cast it in the ocean and put
up a no fishing sign And stop going back after it. That's right.
And what you may think that's, we're talking lightly about that,
but if you cast your anxieties on him, you don't worry about that anymore.
That's right. If you forgive someone, whether they accept that or not,
you've cast that away from yourself. That's right.
You don't have to hold on to it anymore. That's right. You don't harbor that.
And we harbor all of those guilts, those negative thoughts, guilt and anxieties.
They will cause you to be of non-use or non-value. That's right.
Even to yourself. That's exactly right.
So you have to rid yourself of all of those negative thoughts. Easy to do? No. No.
Because we're not wired like that. That's right. We're wired to pretty well
take care of ourselves. That's right.
But that isn't what God had in mind.
And one of the things that I have in my room, I have a picture of a painting of the cross. Yeah.
And I cannot help look at that and thank Jesus for loving me and dying for me,
but I cannot help but think about the death that he died. Yeah.
And he's my brother. That's right. And he died a horrible death for me.
And he labored for me. Yeah, he did.
And the thing that has always stuck in, and we'll talk about this maybe some
more, but one of the things that goes around and around in my head is Jesus
looked out at the crowd and said, Father, forgive them for they don't know what
they're doing. That's right.
That's powerful in itself. It is. That's a model for us to live.
It is, Dad. That's something we can hold on to. That's a truth.
Yeah. It's not just a passing glance. It's something that has had to strong.
And then the next one is, we've talked about John 3, 16, John 14, 1 Peter 5, 7.
And the next one is Galatians 2, 20.
I have been crucified. This is Paul talking. I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live.
He died. That's right. He died to himself.
I no longer live, but Christ lives in me.
The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God,
who loved me and gave himself for me. That's right.
What else do we need? What else do we need? Nothing. Nothing. No.
As long as we have food, clothing, and shelter, and we have the truth to hold
on to, we have need of nothing, and we lack nothing.
That's right. But we have to give up.
We have to give up with our soul. That's right. Because it starts with us.
What did God say about us? That we're sinners. That's right. But what did he do?
He died for us. That's right. And his grace saves us in the blood of Jesus.
It cleanses us of our sins.
So we just need to hold. And I know that some people that may be listening to
this, I can't believe that. I can't hold on to that.
The only thing I can say to them is this. What if it is true?
What if it is? That's right. Will you stake your life on it?
Will you stake your soul on it?
Will you stake everything that you own on that?
No. What is so easy is, in my mind, it is just as easy to believe as not believe. That's right.
Because it's a conscious decision.
We decide. That's right. Exactly right. It is a decision.
It's a decision that we think we grow up in the church, our parents are Christians, whatever.
We don't really think about the fact that each individual has to make their
own decision. That's right. They're no second generation Christians.
That's right. Somebody said God has children, but he doesn't have any grandkids.
No. All of us are responsible for making this decision.
If he really loved you, He gave himself for you.
Can you really be crucified with him and be a new person? That's right.
That's right. In order to have this new life, this new truth,
this new way, you have to die to yourself.
That's right. And let him resurrect you in his image.
That's right. And we think about, if you think about baptism,
and the Apostle Paul talks about that a lot, being immersed with Jesus Christ,
we're buried with him. That's right.
And so what does that mean? When you bury something, it's something that has died. That's right.
And you rise to walk a new life. That's right. So all of that begins with us.
We have to look ourselves in the mirror and say, I am a sinner,
but by God's grace, I've been saved. That's right. Amen.
Amen. It's funny, some of the verses I had kind of correlate with some of yours.
We talked about in 1 Peter about casting our anxiety and our cares.
And Hebrews 12, the first three verses that I'm interested in talking about have a similar context.
We call this new thing November. We're in November now. It'll be November 5th
when you hear this friend.
We talk about the fact that in Isaiah, I think it's 43, it is Isaiah 43,
God says, forget the former things. I am doing a new thing.
I'm making a way in the wilderness. If you feel like your life is stuck.
If you have been traumatized or hurt or lost or just swamped or stuck or sad
or something's been holding you back, God says, guess what?
You might not like where you are. It might not even be possible to change where
you are, but you can change where you're going. That's right.
I'm making a new way. I'm making a stream in the desert.
I'm making a door in the valley of trouble. I will give you a door of hope.
Absolutely. Hebrews 12 then comes along and says, if you're going to take a
step on a new journey, what should you do?
And he says this, throw off everything that hinders. That's right.
Cast off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles and run
with perseverance the race.
So let's say that you've gotten to this place and God has gotten you to Tuesdays
with Tata and you're saying, you're shaking your fist and saying,
yes, I'm ready for a new thing in my life.
I'm ready to cast my cares and anxiety. I'm ready to move forward.
You don't want to carry that anvil that you've been carrying that's been keeping
you stuck and keeping you held down. You got to get rid of it.
If you want something new, you got to get rid of something old.
That's right. And what does that weight look like?
Grief and anxiety, grief and unforgiveness of yourself?
That's right. And don't mishear us. We're not saying you can forget everything you've been through.
Tata hasn't forgotten losing Patty, losing Nanny. I haven't forgotten losing
Mitch. He hasn't forgotten losing his two of his children.
We're not saying that you will magically stop hurting.
No, you won't. It's a both and thing where all of a sudden you're casting off
the weight of those things that have been hindering you.
And God is saying, I'm going to show you how you can move forward. That's right.
Even while you still live in a life where those things are true,
where the steal, kill, and destroy is still true.
And you can still have abundance at the same time, John 10, 10.
So that verse, throw off everything that hinders.
And then I thought 1 Corinthians 2.16 says we have the mind of Christ.
Absolutely. So we talk about you get stuck in your way of thinking.
You get stuck. You think that your personality, your genetics,
your traumas, your family, all the stuff that you've been raised in,
that that's just how you are.
This is just how I am. I can't overcome that. Maybe someday God can come back
and give me a new brain. But this is just how I am.
And he says, no, you're not. You have the mind of Christ. That's right.
You don't have to conform anymore to your... And look who's doing the talking.
That's right. Paul. Paul. And what did he do?
He persecuted the church. Yeah. He persecuted the way.
He killed people. Yeah. He gave consent.
The young men that stoned Stephen, they laid their garments at the feet of a
man named Saul, who later became Paul.
He was there at the first martyr. He saw that.
And he voted for it. We always talk about self-brain surgery and understanding
that changing how you think changes how your brain functions.
That means you're not stuck with the brain that you have.
God says you're also not stuck with the mind, the way of thinking that you've always had.
I can give you Christ's mind to help you have a new attitude,
a new way to look at things, a new way to carry things.
And those two verses, Hebrews 12, 1 and 2 and Corinthians 2,
16, what we just talked about is the first Corinthians 2, 16.
You have the mind of Christ.
And so then marry that with, this is really interesting, 2 Timothy 1.7.
The world wants you to think that you can be easily broken, that something can
happen, the wrong kind of pain, the wrong kind of trauma, the wrong kind of
genetics, and you can be broken, and you have to be afraid. You're fragile.
But what God says is, in 2 Timothy 1.7, God didn't give you a spirit of fear,
but a spirit of power, of love, and of a sound mind.
That means you've got a sound mind in there somewhere. And if you're having
trouble and you can't figure out how to get your mind more sound,
that's your sign that you need help.
Go talk to a professional, get a pastor, a therapist or somebody.
Also, go see your doctor and have your labs checked. If your thyroid's off,
you're not going to think clearly.
If your vitamins are off, you're not going to think clearly.
If you're drinking every night and you wake up with a hangover,
you're not going to think clearly.
So get the medical stuff and then remember that underneath it all,
you have mechanisms inside you that God has given you.
It starts with the renewing of your mind, and you have the ability to have a
sound mind, which will then architect your brain more soundly.
And that's a powerful verse. You're not given a spirit of fear.
You don't have to live in fear. You have a spirit of a sound mind.
And then the last one, or two more, first of all, Philippians 4 is interesting.
I made a neuroscience connection yesterday when I was having a conversation.
The day before yesterday, I had a conversation with Ann Voskamp that we're going
to release on Tuesday also. So this Tuesday, you get a spiritual brain surgery
episode with Tuesdays with Tata, and you get Anne Voskamp at the same time on the main podcast.
And here's what I figured out that I never thought of before.
We always talk about this verse, Philippians 4, 6 through 8.
Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving.
Here's a little inside joke I figured out that Paul was trying to tell us God was revealing to us.
We know now from neuroimaging studies that when you pray and meditate,
the amygdala of your brain, which is the part that causes anxiety and stress,
hormone release and all that stuff, that part calms down.
And the hippocampus gets bigger and more resilient and robust when you pray and meditate.
And the hippocampus connects to the frontal lobe and makes you able to process
things and cognitively think through the situations you're in and not have to
be afraid of them, but to be able to make good decisions.
So there's a switch that happens when you choose gratitude and prayer and meditation,
you lose the ability to easily shift into fear and anxiety, and you increase
the ability to shift into reasonable, conscious, careful thought.
The neuroscientists call the hippocampus the
guard dog of the nervous system because its job is to surveil for threats and
decide what they mean and retrieve previous memories that remind you of circumstances
you might be in now and to decide if you're supposed to run away and be afraid
or if you're supposed to think about it and solve the problem. The guard dog.
And here, Paul's telling us that when we pray and meditate, God's going to guard
our minds. So, literally, structurally, he's winking when he wrote this.
He's saying, hey, guess what?
Someday some scientist is going to decide that this hippocampus part of your
brain's job is to guard you from being anxious.
And I'm telling you that part's going to get better at that job.
I'm using the word guard here in the scripture to say, hey, guess what?
Y'all are going to figure this out someday.
And it's really true. It's literal. It's not a metaphor.
It's the mechanism. How do you deal with anxiety? You pray and meditate.
And you think about gratitude and things that you're grateful for.
And the Bible said it, and neuroscience is proving it. And I just think that's
amazing that there's that little inside joke in there.
And maybe that's not what it meant. Maybe that's not, but I'm sure it is.
It's just too perfect. I can't help but agree with you on that.
It's too perfect. And here's the last one, okay?
This one's going to be hard for some of us to think through.
But I think, Ty, you and I have never talked about this.
We've never discussed what I'm about to say to you. But I think it's going to resonate.
And it's important. When Lisa and I started our company, Warren Innovation,
back in Auburn, Alabama, we chose as our theme verse, and we wrote it in our corporate charter,
Luke 12, 48, which says, to whom much is given, much is required. Okay?
And as I've been writing my new book, The Handbook of Self-Brain Surgery,
God revealed to me that my take on that verse was only half of what it means
because I've always used it to mean if he gives you a blessing,
he requires you to bless other people.
If he blesses you financially, he expects you to be a good steward and use that
money to further the kingdom and help other people.
He also means that everything that God allows in your life,
he intends to redeem and use to make you or somebody else able to see him more
clearly, which means even our suffering, we are expected to use in a way that honors God,
to whom much is given, much is required.
And so, friend, if you're suffering in some way out there, if you're grieving,
if you've lost someone, if you're hurting, if you're anxious, if you're worried,
God is saying there's a path through this pain where the thing that you're dealing
with is going to turn out to be the thing that you can use to help someone else
find their way through the hole.
And what that does then is it gives your pain meaning. That's right.
It gives your pain purpose. That's right.
We talked about Viktor Frankl when he was in the concentration camp.
He said, if you can find a way to make your suffering have purpose,
it stops feeling like suffering.
That's right. That's what that verse is talking about.
I agree with that. And thinking about it from a personal aspect,
I can see clearly now, I could not five years ago.
I was blinded. But I can see clearly now that what God did through all of the
adversities that I've been through in my life,
that I have grown and I have become a better person, a better servant.
Because it's not me that lives anymore.
I've given up. Yeah. He gave you immense suffering. You lost Rebecca to a full-term first baby.
You lost your son, James, to a tragic accident when he was, what, 21, right? 24. 24.
You lost your precious wife of 56 years. And what have you done?
You've taken all that pain and you've had a lifetime of ministering to others
and visiting the sick and dying.
And now you're ministering over this podcast to thousands of people around the world.
Much has been given to you and you've been redeeming that so that you're serving
the Lord's kingdom with that pain and the lessons you've learned from it.
And what that has done is it's refined the edge of that sharp blade for you
and made it not just bearable, but mean something. That's right.
And have purpose behind it.
And I know that I've lost my son and I know that there are.
I would say at this point, a few thousand people that have reached out to us
and said that our willingness to share our story and talk about it has given
them hope and enabled them to find their way through their suffering.
And if we've heard Tata from thousands of people, then there probably are tens
of thousands, multiple tens of thousands of people that haven't written in,
that haven't told the story.
And so we know that our use of our pain is helping people in a way that honors
Mitch and Rebecca and James and Patty and makes their loss mean something other
than just being a horrible tragedy.
Which then on the back end is continuing medicine for us as we get older every
time his birthday rolls around or every time August 13th comes around, August of 2013.
Every time August 20th of 2013 and that anniversary comes around.
I find myself feeling really sad and how many years it's been.
And before long, it's going to be that he's been gone as long as we had him.
Yeah. And all those kinds of thoughts pop around.
And inevitably, somebody sends an email or somebody responds to a post that
I make and they say, you losing your son and writing about it saved my life
or kept me from committing suicide.
And so what does that do? It says that Mitch's life continues to mean something. That's right.
It does. It continues to matter. Yeah. All these years later,
he's making a difference because all of us are talking about it. That's right.
And not just sad, not just drinking it out of our memory.
That's right. And I see his face clearly, even as we sit here and speak.
Yeah. And I remember some of the events that he and I, we had a part in.
You taught him how to drive.
Yeah. It was terrifying. It was terrifying.
At times, because one of the things that I couldn't get him overcome was that
the yield side did not mean speed up.
Yeah, but he thought that meant press the gap.
That's right. But my point is this, friend, like whatever you've been through,
whatever you're going through, especially if it's early, okay, if it's early.
You've been given something, and it's going to hurt, and it's going to grieve,
and you're going to suffer.
And all those things are going to happen, and you need to go through that process.
We've talked openly about grief here.
You need to go through it. But what you can trust in, and you can hear the two
of us talking about it, you can trust that there's going to come a time when
you see that there is some purpose to it. It's not just meaningless.
That's exactly right. And I've said this before, that when Patty was so ill,
when she was in hospice care, I went through the whole process.
Bargaining with God, and then it dawned on me, what am I doing?
He already knows that, and he's been aware of that. He equipped me to do that.
Who am I? Just remember, friend, all these verses that we've shared,
the punchline of this episode really is that you're going to go through hard
things, and when you do, you're inevitably going to doubt some things that you believe.
And you're going to hear voices in your head that challenge you and accuse you
and make you feel guilty and make you feel ashamed and make you feel afraid
for what the future is going to look like.
And the secret to navigating those times is to have a well, a deep library of
true things in your heart. That's right.
Places you can put your foot down that are going to hold you.
And for Tata and I, that turns out to be scripture.
That's right. It might be something different for you, but for us,
it's scripture. because the Word has this way of percolating itself back up
into your conscious mind at the moment that you need it the most.
And remember the example that we had. When you hear the message that brings
doubts and fears and concerns, remember they have no merit. That's right. They have no value.
The example that we have is Jesus Christ when he was in the desert with Satan.
That's right. He said, get behind me.
And the kids today, in the vernacular of the street, they say,
get out of my face. That's right. And we have to be bold about that. We do.
And if you hear this episode after November 5th and the person that you were
praying for that is running for president is not, in fact, the president, you may feel some alarm.
That's right. There's going to be people on either side that are stressed out
and worried and afraid that the wrong person got elected and they're going to
feel like the country's going off the rails.
I'm just here to tell you that the Lord, our God, is in charge.
That's right. Who got elected. All you got to do is go read Romans 8. That's right.
The Lord's in charge of who got elected. The Lord's in charge of what happens to the United States.
Your job is to love him and honor him with your life.
That's right. And share these power verses with other people,
help people find a way when they're hurting, encourage and equip them to do
good things and to hold on to the hard times in their lives and to remember
that to whom much is given, much is required.
And if you've got an ability to articulate ways to move forward when things
hurt, you have an obligation to learn how to do that because there's somebody
in your world that needs you that we can't get to.
And you're the only one that can communicate with.
Right. It will give you meaning. It will give you purpose. It will help you change your mind.
And when you think about that, you have to always remember that somebody's watching you.
And they're listening to you, but they're watching you.
And your actions speak louder than a word. That's right. They do.
And they need you. There's somebody out there who needs your perspective.
And maybe they've been through something like you're going through,
and they're watching to see how you're going to handle it because they're not
sure they can handle it. That's right.
And maybe they're going to reach out to you at some point and say,
hey, how did you make it through that? I'm struggling. That's right.
And you might be able to put the words on it that they don't have.
And don't hear us putting pressure on you.
Because the good news is God also says that it's God who works in us to will
and act in ways that please him.
So he actually does the desire planting and he does the equipping.
That's right. He gives you the tools.
And friends, it begins when you open your eyes in the morning,
because someone equated sleep like death,
like a resurrection when you wake up. Think about that.
You had a long night of sleep, and you weren't aware of anything,
unless someone disturbed you.
But then you wake up, like waking up from the dead.
But it begins when you look out the window and see the sunrise.
That's right. His mercies are new every morning. That's right. God did that.
Verse I just referenced, by the way, Philippians 2.13, God works in us to will
and to work for his good pleasure.
It's all about you. That's right. It's all up to you.
You don't even feel stressed out about it because if you feel,
if he calls you, he equips you for the calling. That's right.
Thank you for sharing these verses with us, Taka. I think there's immense value
in just getting in the word sometimes and seeing where it takes us.
That's right. This was an unscripted conversation that we just shared scriptures
that mean something to us. And I think, friend, it would be helpful if you wrote
down a few verses that mean something to you.
Commit some of them to memory and maybe just write some of them down.
Put them on your bathroom mirror. Put them in the dashboard of your car.
Put them in your desk at work.
Let me share one last thing with you. Perfect. And I've had this for a long time.
This was in the collection plate at Oak Hills Church, August the 26th, 2001. Wow.
I've been carrying this around ever since. And I don't know,
to this day, I don't know who gave it to me, who left it for me.
But it begins, Dennis, the Lord is so pleased with your pliable and teachable spirit.
Continue to pursue holiness with all your strength.
Do not regard lightly the favor of the Lord.
Expect so much more of you.
That's what I mean when I said someone is watching you.
Someone is listening to you. But those are little things that get a hold of
you and remind you that you're not in control. That's right.
It's not your way. That's amazing. 23 years ago, and you still got that.
I'm amazed that Harvey didn't eat it when he ate your Bible.
We had our dogs who we lost just a year ago, Harvey and Lewis,
ate Tata's Bible one day.
Up to about 2 Samuel, I think. Yes, yeah. He's got a good dose of the Old Testament.
So you never know what's going to happen. So put your Bible away.
Don't leave your dog out. That's the lesson we learned. Yeah,
that's right. Tata, this has been immensely valuable.
And it's just an honor to share this space and this microphone with you.
And I'm glad we can keep doing this as long as the Lord lets us. Amen.
Friend, we're back. And it's going to be back on a regular basis now.
And just buckle up for all the things the Lord is doing. We've got some amazing
stuff coming up. Be sure to check out the other podcast with Ann Voskamp later today.
And we will see you on the backside because, Tata, if people are going to commit
to put a scripture in their heart, to be able to draw on it when they need,
to be able to share it with others when it's appropriate, when should they start?
Start today. Better start today.