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A conversation about cars, trucks, tugs and other machines of transport that flows like an ADHD fever dream, hosted by Hoonigan co-founder and 321 Action Action director Brian Scotto. Enjoy, it’s gonna be a bizarre ride.
Episode 4
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[00:00:00] Welcome to the Holiday Special
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[00:00:00] Brian: It's the holidays and tis the season for surprises, both danger. Dan and Mr. Zachary thought they were just coming by to hang out. But no surprise podcast, I know how much you enjoy catching up with the OG Hoonigans We do a bunch of that, get into some nostalgia and also talk about all the new things they're up to.
Enjoy it. We did.
Well here we are, guys, another episode of Very Vehicular and I have two very good buddies here who didn't know they were gonna be on the show together today. It is the holiday special. If you're watching this fresh, it's, it's Christmas Eve and you're trying to avoid your family. I respect that. Uh, what's up boys?
Dead up dude. Zac, when's the last time you two saw each other?
[00:00:59] Zac: Think it was, it was a minute ago. Oh. Uh, we just talked about PRI year last year. Okay. Like randomly bumped into each other there.
[00:01:05] Dan: Yeah.
[00:01:05] Brian: Yeah.
[00:01:05] Dan: It was my first PRI. It was, I haven't seen When
[00:01:07] Brian: was the last time you and I saw each
[00:01:08] Dan: other, Dan?
I don't know.
[00:01:10] Brian: I really don't. Dan was just in like my house. I walked back in and I was like, look, there's Dan. 'cause Dan's in town.
[00:01:16] Dan: Yeah, no, I'm on a podcast.
[00:01:17] Brian: And, and he did not know he was on a podcast today. It was like, Hey, surprise podcast. Which is pretty much like what it was like working at Hoonigan.
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[00:03:12] Zac: I'm ac I'm actually stoked for this. 'cause like just yesterday I was like, man, I wonder how Dan's doing. I haven't talked to that dude in a
[00:03:16] Brian: minute.
What Dan doesn't know is I'm gonna make him finish CoalMaro tonight. I'm taking that sucker home. You know, it's at Jose's.
[00:03:24] Zac: Is it
[00:03:24] Dan: really?
[00:03:24] Zac: I have to go to Jose's. I gotta go pick up my 2J. It's, it's at Jose's. Yo. Use that tow, tow trailer back. You know what I mean?
[00:03:31] Brian: I, I, you know, I didn't actually plan to jump into that, but Okay.
This wasn't the plan. It was, it was the holiday special. And we have a lot of themes here. You can see 'cause I took a lot of time, like making notes. Wait, no. No notes at all. Um, checks out. Yeah. Checks out. Yeah. Yeah. And I, I'm planned about something so I figured we'd just riff it. It's again, holiday special.
There's not much to do. Sip your eggnog. Right. Whatever. So, but let's, I'm gonna,
[00:03:54] Coalmaro: The Project That Burned Us Out
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[00:03:54] Brian: I, I had a conversation the other day with somebody and I wanna see if you agree. I think Coalmaro was one of the like, tipping points for us at Hoonigan into making content we didn't like for me, for sure. But it was more than just for you.
It was more than just for you. 'cause I think in the end we didn't understand why we were building the car.
[00:04:18] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[00:04:19] Brian: Like when we got to the end, like nobody wanted to build it anymore. 'cause originally remember it was supposed to be. Three 50 Z's supposed to be a three 50 Z and we couldn't fit the engine to three 50 Z.
[00:04:28] Dan: Yeah, there's no way.
[00:04:29] Brian: Yeah. 'cause it just, the engine was so wide. Was the LBZ, like it's so wide that it's wider than the strut
[00:04:35] Dan: towers. Fully dressed was like 35 inches wide, which was, and the strut towers were 31 or something like that.
[00:04:41] Zac: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I remember there we were like trying to like, like scrap and it be like, what can this actually fit in?
That's a car. Yeah. I suggested a
[00:04:49] Dan: Dodge Magnum.
[00:04:50] Zac: Yeah. And that's what I wanted to do. Yeah. Honestly, it probably would've been cooler too. Probably would've been
[00:04:54] Brian: cooler. Yeah. I don't know why at the time we were like, oh, this could, it was probably 'cause I saw one on marketplace, like, let's be honest, that drove a lot of my decisions back then.
We just
[00:05:01] Dan: measured some stuff and it worked.
[00:05:04] Brian: Yeah. That'ss how it was, and then the project started and I think we were like really excited until it was not easy anymore. And then we just basically closed the door and let Dan and Jose suffer through it. And then it got finished. And I think between that and like the Gale Bank stuff and all that, I think it just burned everybody out.
[00:05:20] Dan: It did a hell of a burnout though. It did
[00:05:22] Brian: One hell of a burnout. It never went faster than a hundred and like 30 miles an hour as a, for a land speed car But
[00:05:28] Zac: it would do 130 mile an hour. But would, oh, it would be
[00:05:30] Brian: 160 mile wheel speed burnout. No. Like from a
[00:05:32] Zac: roll, like at whatever speed it seemed to just like ignite the
[00:05:35] Dan: times.
Yeah. 80 pounds of boost didn't matter. Yeah.
[00:05:38] Brian: So I, I don't know if you know this, but. Somehow when I was leaving, they gave me that. So like, it became like the weird thing in the divorce that I, they didn't know what to do with it. They had nowhere to store it and they didn't have a title for it. So they were like, we don't know what to do with this thing.
Do you think you can sell it? And I was like, um, no, but if you need it gone, I'll take it. And then it went to Jose's and I forgot that it was there until like three weeks ago when, when Vinny sent me a photo of it, he's like, yo, are you gonna go get this? But the plan is I wanna take that engine out and put it in that F 600 I have.
And then Jose wants to put an LS back in the Camaro as the chassis. Fantastic. Yeah, exactly. It's got a quick chain, full cage, and then he wants to go, go drag huge winters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, that's a point.
[00:06:24] Zac: Indestructible. There's no way you're breaking that with him. No, but, but
[00:06:27] Brian: we're gonna make an episode about it and I feel like you need to come back out for that, Dan.
Because I feel like you, I feel like it,
[00:06:33] Dan: it would be like you never even got to finish it. All right here. Yeah. Come on back out. Check it out.
[00:06:39] Brian: Well, I, I think we're like righting wrongs with it though.
[00:06:42] Dan: The right the wrong would be go 200 miles an hour in it. Yeah. Which it could be really easily done with just an LS to be honest.
Yeah. Let's go do
[00:06:49] Brian: it with an ls. It's got the gearing. Listen dog. We'll pull the motor outta my Tahoe. You realize it has the gearing to go 200 miles an hour revving to 3,500. Imagine. Imagine if you rev at to seven grand.
[00:06:58] Dan: You realize I gotta go pick up that U-Haul tomorrow. Right? There you go. There's a free l lesson there for you.
[00:07:04] Zac: I also feel like it was real shitty to just like, be like, Hey man, you've uh, never done any diesel stuff. Right. Figure this out.
[00:07:11] Firing Order - Ranking Favourite Hoonigan Builds
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[00:07:11] Brian: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, eh, you know, the, I think that we were talking, I had this conversation. I could give it to you guys too. I dunno if you heard the episode with Vinny and, uh, and Ron, but, um, we did this listing of our favorite builds we ever did.
I, you know, I'd be kinda interesting to hear, hear you guys on it. So I, I have this other podcast idea, 'cause you know, I don't really like ever doing just one thing. It can never be that easy. So I have this concept, it's called firing order, and it's like a listicle creator. So you basically, you get a team of people together and then you make a list of the greatest, you know, whatever, right?
And everybody brings their own list to the table and then you fight over it and you basically just a podcast where everyone just argues the whole time and then at the end you have to make a list. And then the name of the group of people who come in is the rotating assembly. And yes, I'm very fucking proud of that.
I appreciate that wink. Yeah. So the rotating assembly, firing order, so we did a little test of it in the pilot episode and we talked about what our three favorite builds were of all time at, at Hoonigan. What were your guys like? If you had to list your three favorite builds, whether you were involved in them or not, and, and it was company cars, not personal cars.
[00:08:22] Zac: I mean mine, like for some weird reason like scumbag, it kind of was, yeah, SBU was on my list, but I feel like it was just, 'cause it was so fun even in like, its like first outing days. It was also
[00:08:32] Brian: Dan's first week. Yeah. Was it? Yes. Dan showed up in a Dan, Dan showed up, barely knew me, met me like once, 10 years earlier.
At a, at a No Bash, right. And Oh, that's right. Showed, showed up and we were like, Hey, we just bought this piece of shit, you know?
[00:08:47] Zac: Yeah. And you like basically worked all night to like try to fix as many problems. Yeah. Can you I ripped the steering wheel off immediately. Yeah. I just
[00:08:53] Brian: went, he was like, he was like, I was like, you think you can get this running?
You know, so we can go drive a thousand miles and Baja. And he was like, sure. That was his first week. After he welded, he just finished welding shark cart back together. 'cause we had just started stripping shark cart down. Yeah. Yep. So you, you've finished building that. And then he was like, look, it runs.
And I'm like, great. How about working on this?
[00:09:12] Dan: Well, that's how we met, right? Because we built the. The Tube chassis car. Well, you just had the nocturnal Yeah. Tube chassis Ester team. Yeah. Nocturnal Motorworks in St. Louis. Me and my buddy built a tube chassis car. You guys saw that And you're like, what the hell is this?
And that's when we had the road course in St. Louis. So it's fast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, this guy can do that kind of tube work. You wanna do it to a Miata? I love Miatas that Love Tube work. It worked out. Was that Gateway?
[00:09:34] Brian: Yeah. Yeah. That was cool. The Good gateway. Yeah. Yeah. That was a cool track. That thing ripped out there.
So yeah, that. Okay. So Scumbag, what else? Scumbag. I, I honestly, oddly enough, shark Cart, you know Shark Cart was on my list too. You so far you've named two of my top three on the list. Yeah.
[00:09:49] Zac: And which are not like things that I would normally, you know, I know it's not really my style, but like they are the most fun we already had or ever had in cars.
I feel like I could guess your third,
[00:09:59] Brian: but
[00:09:59] Zac: I'd be interested to hear what you have to say. Oh man. Trying to think of a
[00:10:01] Brian: third man.
[00:10:04] Zac: Trying to think of like what else was built there that. A brand. Do you want me to give you some cars? Oh, well, hold on, hold on. If, if it's brand car, the third gen with the 6 32 is like, that's what I was gonna
[00:10:14] Brian: guess, because that, that's like the U car.
Like if there was ever a car that was So you,
[00:10:18] Zac: by the way, I'm, I, I'm actively campaigning, uh, Hoonigan to let me take and actually fix that on my channel. That
[00:10:24] Brian: would be fantastic because, uh,
[00:10:25] Zac: you know
[00:10:26] Brian: Yeah, if you're listening to the pod, go tell Hoonigan, give the, uh, give the marrow to Zac to fix. Yeah, that'd be a good one.
But those, those are, so those are your three. So. Um, none of those made the top list of the way we did it, but 6 32 was on Vinny's list. Uh, scumbag and Shark Cartt were on mine. I think in the end it was Rolls Royce, donk Shit car were our three favorite. And I argued that Shark Cartt was a better car than shit car.
Right. That we had more fun in it. More people learn to do everything in it. I mean, we taught a 9-year-old how to do donuts in it. Like we taught people how to drive stick. Um, tons of people learned how to drift in that car. I mean, that thing was really the village bicycle for Hoonigan and was one of the more fun, reliable vehicles, the company
[00:11:12] Dan: party whilst doing all of that stuff in the old yard.
Yeah, that was hilarious. That was super fun watching everybody try to learn how to do donuts for the first time. And, and stuck with them for the rest of their life. And there was like, you know, tons
[00:11:25] Brian: of people. I mean, like caa, CAA did donuts and shit, car, but we had 'em in that too. But I think there was, I mean, we had the most random people, like people from accounting, like people who like just managed production.
Like I think Jamie, there was a bunch of people who got to rip that. So that thing was, was super fun.
[00:11:40] Zac: Yeah. Like not actual car people like getting to experience something like without any liability towards, it's like if you break it, whatever,
[00:11:47] Brian: no shark card was, was, was fantastic. I think for me. What's your, what's your list
[00:11:51] Dan: for me?
Number one, shark card. Obviously it was my first day there. Yep. I'm a huge Miata fan. I mean, that thing lived through everything. It still lives, right? I mean, it's still,
[00:12:01] Zac: I just saw it the other day I was over there,
[00:12:03] Dan: so I, I don't know if I want, I'm taking that home.
[00:12:04] Brian: I don't, I don't know want to.
[00:12:06] Dan: I'm taking that with me.
[00:12:07] Brian: I can't wait to the size vehicle that you're, you like, you're like, I came out, I'm gonna buy a 10 foot u or rent a 10 foot U-Haul to go home by the time you're done, you're like, yeah, honey. So, uh, I had to pick up a, I had to pick up an old seven three diesel to tow this three car home.
[00:12:21] Dan: Get beast's like that sometimes.
[00:12:23] Brian: Um, Ron had a really good idea, which was he wanted to convince Hoonigan. See, this is the game everyone, just to convince Hoonigan give us the cars back so we can all fix 'em and get them right. But Ron wanted to build Shark Cart into a Gymkhana car to compete on their new GymkhanaGrid show. Because that thing would actually rip it.
Well all wheel drive. No, no, just rear wheel drive. That was a wheel drive car. Yeah. You don't
[00:12:44] Dan: have to do anything but put new tires on it.
[00:12:45] Brian: Yeah. I think it just, I think it just has a little negligence and a little neglect. A lot of
[00:12:49] Dan: neglect. Yeah.
[00:12:50] Brian: So, and a lot of us just beating, living shit out it, I mean, we total the, like, pouring beer into the radio basically totaled
[00:12:55] Dan: that G 35 by hitting it with shark card.
[00:13:01] The G35 and Popping Your Hood Cherry
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[00:13:01] Brian: Oh man. You remember the G 35? Yeah. That car, didn't you lose the hood on G? Yeah. Yeah. You popped, you popped your hood. You popped your hood cherry with that car. Yeah, I
[00:13:08] Zac: did. We, it just got painted. Literally just got back. And then we had to do some integration for some like dog, uh, like, you know, like we, your dog could like rest its head on the window.
And I had Hank it. Pooch Pal. Yeah. And oh, I
[00:13:19] Brian: forgot. I took it
[00:13:21] Zac: around. Oh, I
[00:13:21] Brian: forgot about Pooch Pal. My God.
[00:13:23] Zac: Literally drove it up the street. Turned left on Chestnut or whatever that is. And then they were doing roads instruction. It tore the exhaust off 'cause there was a plate. And so Kyle went to go get it and then we were like, oh shit, we better get this thing back to the shop.
Right? Because now it is a open header, G 35. And as we were coming down the, the road to get down to Golden there, it just like, we were the, and dad were talking like, and all of a sudden the hood just ejected. And then it hit the un, the, the walkover pass. Like the mm-hmm. Yeah. And like I think
[00:13:52] Brian: it got caught on a GoPro too, right?
Oh yeah. Yeah.
[00:13:55] Dan: There's a great shot of it. Yeah, there's a bunch of shots of it. That is one of the hardest I've ever laughed in my life, I think.
[00:14:00] Brian: Did you ever lose a hood during the Hannigan era? No. So I did. 'cause I was driving, I, I had just gotten the Audi coop, Quatro running during the beginning of the pandemic.
I opened up the door, I pulled the car out, undid the hood pins. Check the oil closed. The hood didn't clip, the pins started driving down the block and a gust of wind came up the alleyway and I just watched the carbon fiber hood flip over snap, break the corners off the hood. And I was, it was like, I felt like it was a spiritual moment.
Yeah. Because at that point everybody had had a hood moment and we made fun of everybody and we started talking about like the hurt curse. And I instantly FaceTimed hurt and he just laughed for like 20 minutes and then hung up.
[00:14:45] Dan: Zac, Zac was driving the G 35, but I do think it was my fault that that came off because the pins weren't in it.
Yeah, yeah,
[00:14:53] Zac: yeah. Whatever. It was hilarious. It sha it was funny because like, it, like it had just gotten this paint job and then they did like a, a metal flake roof and it like shattered the windshield. Oh, I forgot about the metal flake roof. Yeah. It, it scratched the shit outta like, I mean obviously the hood was messed up, but then like the roof too.
It's,
[00:15:08] Brian: yeah, it's okay. Then we sent it to Saudi Arabia and it burned to the ground. Yeah. You know the story of that thing coming back and the salton of Bruna. Do you know that whole story?
[00:15:15] Zac: No,
[00:15:15] Brian: you know, it seems like no one knows this story because again, it happened like during lockdowns and like we weren't seeing each other every day, so.
You Did you guys go to, did you go to Saudi? Yeah, I did. Did you? Okay. So we sent, so there was, I
[00:15:29] Dan: was building the Camaro.
[00:15:31] Brian: Oh, sorry.
[00:15:33] Zac: Yeah. Nobody else wanted to go. And I was like, if you give me 20 grand, and they're like, cool. I was like, fuck shit. Ask. I was,
[00:15:39] Dan: please take me anywhere. Brian.
[00:15:41] Brian: Do they let me ask, do I have to install a duramax to leave?
Take me. You were basically, it was the, it was basically Hoonigan escape room. It was like, Dan can't leave until he finishes this abomination be built. It's just
[00:15:53] Dan: intercooler piping for 90 feet.
[00:15:57] Brian: So wait, wait. No. So the story is, is so the cars get shipped to Saudi Arabia. We did that car show there, I forget what it was, you and a, I think Micah and a few other people went and then the cars get shipped back.
And during that period of time, you know, lockdown goes into effect. And this is like the first two months when none of us were in the building. I get a phone call and it's like, Hey, there's a delivery at the building. You have to go accept it's the cars from Saudi Arabia. And I was like, okay, cool. When the cars were coming back, we told 'em we don't want the G 35 back.
'cause it burned to, it was burned. We were like, you guys can keep it. And they're like, no, we have to send it back because of carnet, like for import laws, otherwise you're gonna have to pay taxes on it. And we were like, where are the taxes? And they're like, oh, well you guys insured the car for like $75,000.
I'm like, why did we do that? So it was like the taxes were on a 75,000 car. And I'm like, fine, just ship it back. So. Car comes. So I get there and there's like an enclosed trailer and they're lowering, I mean that enclosed carrier. So like the first car that came off I think was like short cart and I forget what else we sent out there.
And then that, and then all of a sudden a 1955 yellow, um, Gullwing. It wasn't a Gullwing. It was the, it was the convertible version, but it wasn't actually a Gullwing. It was, yeah, it was,
[00:17:06] Zac: yeah, it was. 'cause I remember, you know, I, I went into shop and I, you don't think it
[00:17:09] Brian: was, I don't think it was, but I'm gonna let it go because it's good for the story.
[00:17:12] Zac: I, I swear to God, because I went into the office, I was like the only person there. I was like, why is this here?
[00:17:17] Brian: So it, it shows up. I remember it differently, but I don't care. It looks better for the story. So anyway, I opened, did, it was a Gullwing and it was Canary yellow, and the guy's like, yeah, this is yours.
I'm like, no, no. He's like, look, I got the list right here. It's a, yeah, this car, a yellow car. This is the yellow car. I'm like, that is not it. But you can leave it here, I guess. But that's not it. So the car gets dropped. I'm like, this is definitely a mistake. And I knew the guy who ran the event, so they like hit him up and I'm like, Hey man, we just got this car here.
Do you have any idea what's going on with this? And he's like, no, no clue, but we'll get it figured out. So like four months pass by and all of a sudden, like one of those no touch, um, deliveries come like when you buy a Bugatti, you know, it shows up in like the glass case and you can see it from the side.
One of those show up and out of the back of it is the burnt G 35 being dumped off because apparently that car belonged to the Sultan of Brunei and it was delivered to his collection here in Los Angeles. And instead they delivered the G 35. Yeah. Like, you know, somebody, like somebody lost their life for that mistake.
[00:18:21] Zac: A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Like it. I, it's straight up. And I, I remember it. So, 'cause I opened it and I was like. Dude, I'm pretty sure this car is worth a lot of money. Why is it here? If this is the worst place that something, I called DeMars,
[00:18:34] Brian: I called DeMars and I was like, Hey, I just wanna let you know there's a car in here worth about four or $5 million.
He's like, the insurance doesn't cover it. I was like, all right. Just letting you know.
[00:18:43] Zac: Yeah, yeah. Pretty, pretty sure. Uh, there was at one point me doing a burnout on a motorcycle. Like right behind that thing. Yeah. 'cause it
[00:18:50] Brian: was just, we just stuffed it in the corner of the office. Yeah. So anyway, put it Shark cart.
What's next? Shark cart. A little tangent. Boys. Nothing New
[00:18:58] Dan: shark cart.
[00:18:59] Shit Car, Knuckle Busters, and Drift Mishaps
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[00:18:59] Dan: Um, man, now that we've gone on a tangent, I would say shit car as well. But before pre offroad.
[00:19:06] Brian: Yeah. That we were, that was, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That was, that was a mistake. That doesn't count. We were just bored. That was like when you get to the kink level of car, how many things?
Yeah. Cigar
[00:19:14] Dan: is fantastic. The SR 20 era, I like the SR 20. It just wasn't well carried out. Yeah, yeah,
[00:19:19] Brian: yeah.
[00:19:20] Dan: It could have been sick, but that's where. You think it would've been sick, stray away from shit car at that point, because that's kind of sick. Yeah.
[00:19:26] Brian: Do you think it would've been sick if like Ron didn't crash it on the opening?
The opening run? I, I, I crashed it. Wait, you crashed it? Yeah, I
[00:19:33] Zac: jumped it. Remember like we literally pulled finish it?
[00:19:35] Brian: No, no. That was off, off road when it was the offroad version. But when we first put the SR in it, we went out to Irwindale when we had Burn yard at Irwindale. That's right. And Ron sent it right into the wall.
Yeah. And it was like everyone was so excited to drive it. Yeah. And then we all went home.
[00:19:51] Dan: Man, it happens.
[00:19:51] Brian: I made fun of Ron of that the other day. Um, okay. Shit, car.
[00:19:55] Dan: Uh, and strangely enough for me, CoalMaro Really? Wait, what? Yeah. As much as I hated it, uh, this is, yeah. I would've never expected that. This is like breaking news.
[00:20:04] Brian: I, I had in my head this idea that you hated that car.
[00:20:09] Dan: I do.
[00:20:09] Brian: Because I remember Is that why, is it like a weird love hate thing?
[00:20:12] Dan: Yeah. Well, I mean. To me, part of it is that it's something that I had to overcome.
[00:20:17] Brian: Okay.
[00:20:17] Dan: Right. I knew nothing about Diesel and I, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Had to overcome that. I had to learn it.
I had to get past all of that. Right. And I did. And it was successfully pretty strong. Yeah. So, and I don't know, it still probably runs. I have no idea. Yeah. I mean it,
[00:20:32] Brian: oh no, it still runs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jose got it up and running like it without much, without much effort
[00:20:37] Dan: because it was such a, a difficult thing for me to do and a mental block in my head to get past.
And plus all the hate that I received for a lot of things. It was like, I gotta get through this.
[00:20:47] Brian: Yeah. That hate was so unwarranted. Yeah. That was such bullshit. I had
[00:20:50] Dan: to get through it, and I got through it and actually doing that burnout. 'cause I was so mad, I couldn't care if I sent it to the moon and it just blew up.
But it worked. And I was like, it never blew up. This thing's actually sick. It was pretty stout. I mean, it got beat on. And then the first polls that we made. Down the airstrip. Mm-hmm. And they couldn't hook up. And it was just doing burnouts. That was the coolest feeling. Oh yeah. I was like, this is sweet. It, it would do it.
I was like, I know it would do it, but the chassis, I'm not sure would do it. I'm not an engineer. I can't go 200 miles an hour. Yeah. I'll put this thing on its lid. But I built the roll cage and I trusted it 200 miles an hour on its lid.
[00:21:23] Brian: It would've, uh, it would've always been cool to have put a big tire on that thing and seen what it could have done just on, just on a drag strip.
'cause like it just didn't hook at all with the way we had it
[00:21:33] Dan: set. Well the other part of it too is like, because it was a rolling start, it had to get a roll. Yeah. You couldn't get a start. Yeah. We had to roll into it and it wouldn't really even start going until about 40, 50 mile an hour.
[00:21:44] Brian: Yeah.
[00:21:44] Dan: Like it wouldn't even, but it would still tear
[00:21:45] Brian: the tires right off of it
[00:21:46] Dan: and as soon as it hit 40 mile an hour, it'd blow the tires off.
And anywhere from 40 i I bet you all the way up to 180 mile an hour blow the tires off.
[00:21:56] Brian: You know, it's interesting. I would've thought the knuckle busters E 36 would've been on that list. No,
[00:21:59] Dan: I hated that car. Really? Yeah.
[00:22:01] Brian: Why?
[00:22:02] Dan: Well, I like the fun part of building a car is a roll cage. I didn't do that. Oh, okay.
And all the other stuff was a conglomerate of things that I didn't like for a drift car. It's funny, the gearing was too tall. The braking sucked. Okay. The car drove like crap. I drove your wife off the course at like a hundred mile an hour.
[00:22:18] Brian: I remember that. Because she's still strong. That's okay.
[00:22:20] Dan: She's great.
[00:22:21] Brian: Um, yeah, it takes a lot more, uh, the
[00:22:23] Dan: brakes didn't work a lot Didn't work. The power delivery was wrong. The rear end game was wrong. You know
[00:22:28] Brian: what's Ron's favorite car in terms of cars to drive? He enjoyed that car the most out of all the cars to rip because I think at one point it finally working well
[00:22:37] Dan: after when you get the right diff combination.
That was part of it. Yeah. Right. We were fighting to get the right gearing. Yeah. Gearing is wrong. And then, yeah. Do you know what's a crazy thing? The itbs were weird too.
[00:22:47] Brian: Yeah. Yeah. Now that initial, the initial dual intake manifold, dual throttle body setup was definitely weird. But that was obviously what was paying for the project was like Edelbrock was trying to promote that.
But I think that think something to think about. That's so crazy. We did that project to try to promote the idea of E 30 sixes and drifting. 'cause no one was using E 36. They're
[00:23:07] Dan: so good.
[00:23:08] Brian: But think about the, think about it now. Yeah, like now it's like there's more, I mean it's like omni precedents. Like I almost feel like there's more BMWs, 30 sixes and 40 sixes.
I feel like than there tax on
[00:23:17] Zac: those cars is like the 46 is
[00:23:21] Dan: still
[00:23:21] Zac: not,
[00:23:21] Brian: I know that was an M three and we bought it for $2,000 and we drove it into the shop. I mean, it wasn't great. It was pretty, it was pretty roached, but $2,000 E 36 M three, like that doesn't exist anymore.
[00:23:32] Dan: Oh. And then we ruined it. The knuckle buster.
Yeah, the knuckle buster's car. I was like, not shit car. What? The shit car was a, it was a three, 200 bucks. No, that was a
[00:23:39] Brian: 3 28. Was it? Yeah. Three eighteens the short ones. So the three 18 ti, that was the, the
[00:23:44] Dan: TIS a short one, but there's a three 18 That's not, I know I'm not a BMW guy. It's a three 18, I believe
[00:23:49] Brian: it's the four cylinder.
I thought that was a 3 28. No, 'cause I guess the 3 28 was a 2.8. I guess it is a one eight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever you three 18. Yeah. I dunno. That thing was sick though.
[00:23:59] Dan: Yeah, that car was awesome now. Yeah, we ruined that. M three i, I don't know. I know. It's cool now. I guess. It got a lot. I drove it at Grid Life after it had gotten kind of a rebirth.
Yeah. Uh, and then I drove it to Vegas. Uh, yeah. Yeah. In the gym. Kna setup. But it was set up for, I don't know who, not me. Probably you in the seat. And I tried to drive it and the helmet fell over my head and I almost fell out of the seat. And I was like, I'm good. Actually, I was following Luke Finkin. I was in between Luke.
And, uh, Micah Diaz and I was like, yeah, this is the most dangerous drifting I have ever done.
[00:24:32] Brian: You know, I, I gotta say I'm going back to Coalmaro 'cause I almost feel like there's this weird part of the universe that has just like closed up for me now. 'cause I always sort of felt bad about Coalmaro
'cause I knew midway through the project you were just over it. But we were like, we were just in it and we had to finish it.
[00:24:47] Dan: I was over it before it started to be fair.
[00:24:49] Brian: You were kind of excited about it early on? A little. No. You were excited about it early on. I think once you were done. I think that's the, I clearly stated
[00:24:54] Dan: I don't know anything about diesel.
[00:24:56] Brian: No, no. I know that was true, but I think once you got done with the roll cage
[00:24:58] Dan: Yeah.
[00:24:59] Brian: You were like, okay, I'm done.
[00:25:02] Dan: Yeah. So that, that's the easy part to me. Right. That fabric work stuff is easy and then you get to the motors, like, I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. It's still, it's still rough, but I think it's cool in the way that I overcame something.
And I think that it's cool because it was a really cool motor. Oh yeah. Yeah. Like I kinda want the motor for nothing.
[00:25:20] Brian: I know you're gonna take it, but Well, you can come help me install the F 600. You can. Good. I'm good. You sure
[00:25:25] Zac: you still have that by the way?
[00:25:26] Brian: Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's uh, well the hard part's done.
It's all what is? Well
[00:25:32] Dan: the motor stuff is all done. All you gotta do is your fuel set up. Yeah. And not just that, it's
[00:25:35] Brian: like, it's like a, it's like three wires to connect to the car because everything else is all, it's all standalone, so it's like just power it and it's ready to go.
[00:25:43] Dan: You can literally just take everything off the, take everything out and plug it in.
Yeah. The
[00:25:45] Brian: only thing is I probably remove the dry sump 'cause I just don't think there's a, it's just like more things to go wrong for no reason. Nah. I don't need a dry sum and an F 600. Hey man. Yeah.
[00:25:54] Dan: You don't need dry a thousand horsepower either. That's true.
[00:25:57] Brian: That's true. And it either, I also don't need an F 600.
I don't need anything. Look,
[00:26:02] Zac: more oil is better. Okay.
[00:26:04] Brian: Alright. Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. From
[00:26:06] Zac: Zack. So what have you guys been up to? Just building stupid cars. Same. Yeah. You know, doing, doing YouTube stuff, crashing vehicles all over the United States with burnout wars.
[00:26:16] Brian: Well, you're, you're still here in Long Beach?
Yep, we are in
[00:26:19] Dan: Ohio. Ohio. How are you liking that? Ohio's great. You know, we're Midwest boys. Yeah. We back to, uh, boring stuff. Yeah. And it's fantastic time to myself.
[00:26:28] Brian: You got, you got a big garage shop space.
[00:26:30] Dan: I have a two car garage and I have a 30 by 40 shop out back. Ooh, damn
[00:26:34] Brian: brother. Talk dirty to me.
That's really nice. The shop is
[00:26:36] Dan: really good. It's got really good lighting. It has good air. You got heated floors. Nice floor. And it's not heated, you know. Well, the, the shop is heated. That's good. So I don't, I don't really need heated floors. I don't spend much time on the floor.
[00:26:46] Brian: You know, when I realized like I had become an adult.
Or at least a man of adult ambitions is when I started getting pole barn recommendations on Facebook. One, I still use Facebook two. It's like, you know what you need in your life? You need a 40 by 60 pole barn.
[00:27:01] Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I already, I have the shop and I still look at other shops.
[00:27:07] Brian: Of course you do.
It's like having a project car. You can always have more. It's like, well, I have four sheds on the property and I'm still looking to build another one.
[00:27:12] Dan: The problem for me is I have so much stuff that isn't car related in the shop, and that is not what I want. I want only car stuff for that shop, so I need to have another storage stuff to get everything out, and it's just a workflow.
Oh, I get it. Oh, of course. It's,
[00:27:28] Zac: you can't mix church and state, you know what I mean? Well,
[00:27:31] Brian: yeah, so I, this is a good conversation because. I don't want gardening tools in a garage. No. Like they need to be in a shed. I don't want, yeah, like something that digs holes in dirt to be near sockets or anything like that.
Makes no sense. I also, you don't want your wood shop to be anywhere near. Yeah. Like somewhere that you might weld. 'cause then it's just a nightmare. So it's like you really need, or just
[00:27:51] Dan: in cars in general and parts and whatever. Like
[00:27:54] Brian: let's just be honest, like you need like a four garage life. Absolutely.
Like a four garage solution. You need like the garage that you store your nice cars in and that you let like you know that you can, like the garage door works.
[00:28:06] Dan: Hold on. And
[00:28:07] The Four Garage Solution: Pole Barns & Mezzanines
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[00:28:07] Brian: you can drive. Where's the timestamp into,
[00:28:08] Dan: where's the timestamp on this so I can clue Emily In 20 watch We're 27 ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome
[00:28:13] Zac: to Brian Scott's four four garage solution. Four. Four
[00:28:16] Brian: garage. This isn't a four car solution. This is a four garage solution. So one is a regular like non-car person garage. The garage door works when you push the button so it opens like on its own right. If you guys ever experienced that before, it's pretty cool.
I have one you can store. Like bicycles and Christmas trees and things like that in there? Mm,
[00:28:36] Dan: nope. I don't know. Nope. Nope. That's different for me 'cause I like bikes. Bikes is a separate garage. Okay, fine.
[00:28:40] Brian: Fine. Kids' bikes, kids' bikes, like that type of stuff that, that all goes there. Christmas decorations, Halloween decorations, all of that goes in like a normal pedestrian garage.
Then you have like the garage shop, full blown shop. Like this is, this is the where you work on stuff. But let's be honest, there's no room to park a car in it. Right? It's, it's mostly just like machine shop stuff and a lift. And then you have another garage, which is where you store your cars and all your parts and then you have a last, the last garage, which like is probably split into two garages.
Maybe this is a five car, five garage solution where you've got like your farm equipment, you park your tractor, your, all that kind of stuff. You'll legally store gasoline and tires in there. And then you also have your wood shop separate from,
[00:29:26] Dan: gotta gotta have a mezzanine in one of 'em. I know. Yeah, I know.
There's gotta be azine. There's gotta be a hangout spot. I mean, even like what we're doing right now.
[00:29:33] Brian: I agree.
[00:29:33] Dan: What we're doing right now, you gotta have a spot to hang. So a mezzanine that works out in the car area, right? Where you're storing the cars. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You can hang out. That's a good one.
Look at all this stuff. Full wet bar.
[00:29:44] Brian: Yeah. My dream. Yeah. My dream at the farm is to. Build like a tall, like 25 foot high like barn with a mezzanine in it where the triple stackers put the cars at the height of the mezzanine so you could like look out and see like two cars stacked there. And then across from it have a theater screen so everyone can hang out in the mezzanine and like watch movies
[00:30:07] Zac: if you really wanna get slick with it.
You glass in?
[00:30:10] Brian: No. Yeah, that's the way to go.
[00:30:11] Zac: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the way to go. Or you have like glassed in like elevator storage. Right? So like, you know, when you got real sick shit, you know, it doesn't get like affected by any of the elements inside. The storage area. Right,
[00:30:22] Brian: right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm into that.
You don't
[00:30:23] Zac: want anybody coughing on your, you know.
[00:30:25] Brian: Yeah. You ever think about how different it would be if like, we didn't have to share domiciles with women? Like we would just build the craziest places That would make no sense. I
[00:30:36] Dan: would've walked straight past the house. Yeah. Had we just gone there? I pretty
[00:30:40] Zac: much did.
I've been going on the rabbit hole of like, uh, like garage houses, you know, basically like a, like a barn dominium, but for like a garage. Like a garage, dude. Right. I know.
[00:30:48] Speaker 4: Yeah,
[00:30:49] Zac: yeah, yeah. And like, that's exactly it, where it's like, okay, you got like six to 8,000 square feet of garage space and then, you know, maybe like, again, mezzanine.
Yeah. But it's like, you know, basically like a glassed in small. 1500 square feet maximum condo, you know, and that's like your living area. But then you got all this area where you can actually do your things and store 'em, and
[00:31:07] Brian: it would be fantastic.
[00:31:08] Dan: You know, when I was in my early twenties when Tron came out and they do the motorcycle chase scene throughout the whole thing, and he flops in, opens his garage door, which is basically just shipping containers underneath a bridge.
Mm-hmm. Pops in, parks the bike, hops on the side of the couch, turns on the tv. I was like, that's gonna be my life. Yeah. Or like, Lord of War. I want to do that.
[00:31:31] Brian: Yeah. Yeah. I think, um, I think Mike Burrows has a setup like that. I've never actually been to his place, but I'm pretty sure he like lives at his shop, which I think is pretty
[00:31:39] Dan: cool.
You know, I went to Jesse Comb shop and I thought that that was the coolest setup I've ever seen. Jesse, Jesse shop. You talking about
[00:31:44] Zac: the one that she got kicked out of that was off the street from ours. Yeah. That
[00:31:47] Brian: one that was really cool. It was like off seventh Street. Yeah. So
[00:31:49] Zac: just to fill you guys in, it was like, it's a rad spot.
But then like, uh, apparently the city or the fire marshal came down on her like, it was like, oh, this can't be like a work live solution. And they like, you know, gave her a bunch of shit for it, which it was like really well done.
[00:32:03] Dan: Yeah. She had to take out like the kitchen or something in order to make it Yeah.
I forget what, what it was in the end shower. It was so cool. It, it was up there with one of the coolest places I've ever seen.
[00:32:13] Brian: Yeah. It was really cool. I remember going to look at it being like, I want the.
[00:32:16] Dan: Yeah. Yeah. She just had, you know, the garage, you walk in, you have the two, three big garage basically, and then a hallway, which is filled with all the coolest stuff that she's done.
Right. She's got fire suits and leather jackets and all that stuff. And then there's a glass doors looking into mm-hmm. The living area. But if you're in the living area, which would be the kitchen, then you're looking out and you look down this hallway of all the fire suits and helmets and carnage and stuff that she's had.
And then there's the car she's working on. Yeah. Yeah. In the back. And it was like, man, that is cool. And it was
[00:32:46] Brian: also so nondescript from the outside, right? Like, from the outside it just looked like a random building. Yep. And you walk inside, you're like, this is so cool. Really
[00:32:52] Dan: cool.
[00:32:53] Work-Life Balance & All-Nighters at Hoonigan
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[00:32:53] Brian: Yeah. I, um, I, I, I think like for my, like, I like working at night.
You guys remember, I would always work at night and like, that's why I always wanted a place where like my shop was attached to my. To my house because the worst thing at Hoonigan would be, it'd be four 30 in the morning and be like, oh, I have to drive home now. Like, I gotta go home and I gotta get home.
I gotta shower. Like I'm gonna wake up by the time I get to the house and like then wake up when I shower. Where like, if you could just do it and cry. I mean I did, I definitely slept at Hoonigan a lot.
[00:33:22] Zac: Oh yeah. At the end of the
[00:33:23] Brian: day.
[00:33:23] Zac: I was actually just telling somebody the story about this, I think earlier today, but you were in China and we had to do a livery launch for Ken.
It was the uh, Troy Lee designs. First one. Yeah, the multicolor one. Yeah. And it was, you were like, Hey man, uh, you might wanna get some energy drinks and some food. It was gonna be a long night and so I was back at GaN editing it and then like, I remember writing my chopper home at like five 15 in the morning and like.
For those of you that don't live in la Right. The people that are up at five 15 trying to get to work, it's basically like gridlock traffic that moves at 95 miles an hour. Mm-hmm. And so like, I remember just almost dying like three times on that ride home. Just like, oh my God. Just absolutely cooked. And I was just like, and that was the point where I'm like, I'm just gonna move to Long Beach 'cause I can't keep doing this.
[00:34:11] Brian: And, and by the way, to a little more information on that traffic, the reason is, is 'cause there's this sweet spot between five 15 and six, there's no traffic. And then all of a sudden at like 6 0 2, it just completely stops. Yeah. So that morning run are, these are professional drivers. This is not normal traffic people.
Yeah. Like these people, they know how to merge, they know everything at this time of morning. Like they're all just like coffeed up and running, like you said, 95 miles an hour, six feet apart from each other. Oh yeah.
[00:34:38] Zac: You're basically bump drafting. Like, you know, you got guys in like s six hundreds just on the bumper of somebody just like, let's fucking go.
Which I like. I mean, it's cool, but you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not after a 24 hour day. So
[00:34:52] Holiday Wishes & New Projects
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[00:34:52] Brian: anyway. What's, uh, are we gonna do, we talked about making up a theme for this since it is the holidays. You guys got any, you got any theme? You got any, what makes this more holiday? Like, what do you want for Christmas, Dan?
Silence.
[00:35:11] Dan: Leave me alone. That's where you're at now, Dan? No, I mean, no, actually, no. I spent a lot of time alone, but no, I, uh, for Christmas, I'm, I feel content right now.
[00:35:23] Brian: Actually's a really good thing to want for Christmas. You're just like, I'm good.
[00:35:25] Dan: I'm good. Yeah, I, I'm good. I think, uh, Emily and I talked about a shared gift, which would be either an espresso machine.
[00:35:34] Brian: Nice, nice.
[00:35:35] Dan: Uh, or you know, I don't know. For me, it always leads to another car, another
[00:35:39] Zac: bike.
[00:35:39] Brian: Yeah. Yeah. Where,
[00:35:41] Zac: where I saw a really bitch in two mass gallion for sale. There was like a legit pirate ship, and I was like, fuck, that would be so sick.
[00:35:48] Brian: I, I'm surprised it's taken you this long to get into boating.
I feel like
[00:35:53] Zac: I've loved boats. Yeah. I just, you know, I try to stay away from things that I can't afford. Right. Yeah. But like, I like power, you know? I
[00:35:59] Brian: still have a boat.
[00:36:00] Zac: You have. The little, like I have a jet
[00:36:04] Brian: stream boat that I still haven't built.
[00:36:05] Zac: Oh, the one that just got delivered? The one that got delivered randomly years ago.
Yeah,
[00:36:09] Brian: yeah, yeah.
[00:36:10] Zac: I thought that was Shout out to
[00:36:11] Brian: Jet Stream. Thanks very much.
[00:36:12] Zac: Yeah, that would be, those would be actually that, that looks like it'd be really fun to have something that rips that's that small Oh yeah. Like blast up a river, maybe like jump up. I don't know. Damn that
[00:36:22] Brian: a beaver built, definitely, definitely beaver jumping.
Yeah. That's the move. Have you watched any of those videos, dude? Yeah. Fantastic.
[00:36:29] Dan: I talked to Taylor Ray about it. He's bout it. Bout it. Yeah.
[00:36:32] Brian: It seems like everyone who has built one has kind of completely abandoned cars. He's like,
[00:36:36] Dan: it's like drifting, but in a boat. It's way cool. Yeah.
[00:36:40] Brian: It's like drifting and I don't have
[00:36:41] Dan: to do any work,
[00:36:42] Brian: but apparently it's okay to drink while you do it.
Don't, yeah, and I don't
[00:36:44] Zac: have to change tires. It's a lifestyle. Uh, boating, uh, is almost, you know, it's synonymous with, uh, you know, getting about 1214 Coors Lights in your system. Then, you know, seeing what that thing will do wide open.
[00:36:57] Boating, Burnouts, and The Qualified Captain
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[00:36:57] Brian: , you guys follow the, uh, the qualified captain on Instagram?
[00:37:00] Zac: Oh yeah,
[00:37:01] Brian: you do, right?
Yeah. That was the only reason I follow it is 'cause Ken was like, this is the best Instagram account. And it's changed now, but for like a good year, all it was was people like having failed boat launches at ramps and like 90% of it is some Escalade like going underwater because people would forget that like once the boat lifts up, the e-brake no longer works because you've taken all the weight off the back of the truck and it like, yeah.
Oh. So I always
[00:37:26] Dan: like seeing the guys that had the scores with the guys backing in the boat trailers. Yeah,
[00:37:30] Brian: yeah, yeah. Do you ever see to put
[00:37:31] Dan: added pressure? I remember my dad flipping out back in a trailer to drop the boat. Oh, I could,
[00:37:37] Brian: I could imagine. I
[00:37:38] Dan: could just watch 'em get worked up is so fun.
[00:37:40] Brian: Yeah.
Yeah. Uh, the other day I, uh, I had this really great moment where, um, I got to load a parts car that I sold these young kids, uh, with my Kubota. With a forklift. And I had taken the front sub frame off and I didn't tell them that. So they showed up thinking they were getting a roller and they got there and the whole front, they got a dragger.
And I was like, yeah, it turned out I needed the sub frame. So, uh, yeah. How many friends did you bring? And it's like, two guys, no winch and just like a, an open trailer. And I was like, they're like, well, how are we gonna get on there? I was like, I'll throw it on with the, with the, you know, with the, uh, tractor.
And I, I'll be honest, I got kind of lucky, but I did it, like at first it took me a second to get it set up, but once I got it set up, like I backed it up, turned it around, put it all the way up, and then dropped it on by just like, you know, kind of moving it like a, like a rickshaw, you know, just running it up like that.
And the one kid looked at me and was like, oh man, I was really impressive. You don't do this a lot. And I had this moment where I was like, I feel like I've now achieved old man wisdom validation. 'cause I remember watching like old dudes backup trailers at like the body shop I worked at and been like.
One day I'll be like that. And I had that moment. I was like, yeah. And then like 15 minutes later I crashed a tractor into something, but they didn't see it, you know, so it's all good. Yeah. Cut cow. So he left being like, man, that, that's Scotto, he's shorthand tractor.
[00:38:59] Zac: You know, I was, I was gonna say the, the most flawless, uh, boat ramp, uh, drop off I've ever experienced was a Ryan Anderson.
Dude. Just was like, Hey man, no problem. Just one shot, dude. Just perfection. Effortless, I
[00:39:11] Brian: feel. I bet you his son could do the same. I think the Andersons just are built that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think they're just built that way. By the way, random, while we were filming Gymkhana, um, in Australia, the Andersons just showed up on set 'cause they were down there.
Oh,
[00:39:25] Zac: doing a monster jam. Yeah. Just
[00:39:26] Brian: like randomly shut up. And I forget how much I enjoy Ryan Anderson. Oh yeah. Just such a, such a good dude. I enjoy all of them. They're just great people. Dennis, all of 'em. I mean, as a kid, I loved Grave Digger and Dennis Anderson, and it's of all of the people that I've met in my life, like from, you know.
Pro like racers to pro snowboarders, like all these cool people who I got to get close to because of what we do. I think Dennis Anderson is the one that like, makes me the most giddy because I love them. When I was like, when you're a little, when you meet people that were hero status when you were young, it's so different than meeting other people.
[00:40:00] Zac: Oh yeah.
[00:40:01] Brian: Yeah.
[00:40:01] Zac: Well, you know what? They have, like, I, I think they all get it from Dennis. 'cause Dennis is perfect at it. Right. But like, you know, when it comes to somebody's signing autographs or doing fan work, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like the interaction, like, he's just so flawless and he just makes everybody feel like family basically.
Right. And like Ryan's really good at it. Adam's really good at it. Sister's really good. Teeny man's really good. You know, like, oh yeah. But they just, they all. Uh, you know, inherited that ability to like sit there and, you know, sign autographs. Or the other day I sent Ryan a video. I was, uh, out in Mooresville and my, uh, uh, actually it was with Chris Clark.
Right,
[00:40:33] Brian: okay. Yeah. And his
[00:40:34] Zac: son was like showing me all his favorite like, monster truck toys, and he's like, this is my favorite. And it was, it was Ryan. It was a son of a digger. Yeah. Right. And I said, I sent him a video of it and he's like, Hey, what's that kid's name? You know? So I sent it to him and then like 20 minutes later I got like a three minute video where I'd be like, Hey man, just so you know, like just talking to the kid, I was like, man, that's, that's awesome.
Like, you didn't have to do that. You know, I didn't ask him to, you know, nobody asked him to, but it was like to, to go that far to just make a kid feel awesome. Oh yeah, yeah. Good people. You know. And that's like probably the best marketing for that stuff too, you know? Yeah. Because it's like children are.
[00:41:08] Brian: Well, you think about it, they do like the most badass stuff. I mean, honestly, the level at which Monster Trucks are at now is just so different. Right? Oh yeah. Back flips all this kind of crazy stuff and they do it for six year olds. Yeah. Right. Like it's probably one of the craziest motor sports and with the youngest audiences.
Mm-hmm. Like, it's weird if you think about it that way. 'cause you think like more people like us would be watching Monster Jam. I mean, I'm into it, but not as into it as my 6-year-old.
[00:41:33] Dan: Yeah. I think that was one of the coolest build biology we ever did. Oh, yeah.
[00:41:36] Brian: Was
[00:41:36] Dan: having that in there and sitting there in there.
We had it. And how quickly he pulled that in.
[00:41:41] Brian: We, we brought, were you there Irwindale when it was there? Yeah. This is insane. We had
[00:41:45] Zac: that thing
[00:41:46] Brian: in the Burny yard and at the NCE shop.
[00:41:48] Zac: Yeah. And then watching them like swap a motor in like a couple hours and be like, oh, we're going at it again. Like, dude, you just should grenade a motor and then just be like, oh, now we got this.
You guys wanna just get lunch real quick? Yeah. Good group of mechanics too.
[00:42:01] Dan: And I was talking to them. They're super fun. Yeah. I was talking, I was like, man, that looks like it's leaking pretty good. And he's like, that's how, you know, there's oil in it. And I was like, all right, they're just normal guys. Oh yeah.
[00:42:11] Zac: No man. And like, but the, you know what you were saying, like nobody likes it more than the six year olds. Right. But it's, it is that one motor sport where kids and adults can both enjoy it equally as like, it's like badass, right? Yeah. Are like. Yes. You know,
[00:42:25] Brian: no, I, I mean, I look, and this is like a whole podcast on its own, but I think that every other motorsport could learn a ton from Monster Jam.
Like, I mean, and not just Monster Jam, but everything Feld does 'cause Supercross is also really good. Yeah. Like they understand how to create a really good show. When we were first doing Gymkhana grid, I had never been to a Supercross event, right from the East Coast. It's like not as big. And Ken said, you know, we're doing, we're putting Grid together and we're talking about it.
And Ken was like, I want you to fly out and go to Anaheim One. Yep. A one you need to see, you need to go to a one, you need to see Supercross. You need to understand what a good show is. And he brought out like me and Derrick and a bunch of the team, and at first we got there like, all right, whatever. And then like once the show starts to like, yeah, these guys understand the entertainment side of Motorsports.
Yeah, dude. In a way that no one else gets it.
[00:43:14] Zac: Well, that's why like also, so you know, they basically rent out Angel Stadium and they keep dirt there on site. Right. So the logistics behind both those shows now that I like Yeah. Have to do shows myself, right. Yeah. Like I look at that, I'm like, holy shit. Like it's really smart.
They figured out it's cheaper to just like rent. Permanently rent like a section of the lot, keep a bunch of shipping containers of dirt there, right?
[00:43:36] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[00:43:36] Zac: And then they basically lay that dirt down and then they have, what, what is it like, they have like three Monster Jam, uh, monster Jam events. Yep. And they have a one kind of like, or a one two, A one, A two and three, right?
Three, yeah. All within like kind of the same stretch of like six, seven weeks, something like that. But like they pack it out, right? Full
[00:43:55] Brian: 60,000 people, they're doing something that, uh, the baseball team ain't doing.
[00:43:58] Zac: No. And like they have, it's profitable still that they can like, be like, oh yeah, we'll need Angel Stadium for two months.
You know? Yeah. Like, that can't be cheap. But like it's, the logistics behind all that is absolutely insane. And like also the parking lot parties, like for the Supercross, like parking lot is absolutely stacked. A, it's like there's a lot of like good looking chicks there too, which is wild that you don't see at Motorsport events usually it's just a bunch of dudes.
Right? Yeah. But it's like,
[00:44:26] Brian: I mean, motor motorcycles have always had that, that set up. Yeah.
[00:44:29] Zac: True. But like the, the parking lot was just a massive party for like Oh yeah. 10 hours before the event even
[00:44:36] Brian: happened. Yeah. No, I remember going to the first Supercross event and walking through it and it was like a truck show in the parking lot.
Yeah. Like every truck was dope. It was just a bunch of pre runners or lifted whatever. And you're like, man, this is c crazy experience to see all that. Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, they do, they do a really good event. Obviously they do monster jam really good. And they need to like pick up like a, like imagine if they did drifting what That would be like Drift games maybe.
[00:45:01] Burnyard, Burnout Wars, and SEMA Stories
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[00:45:01] Brian: Because I guess Drift Games does a pretty good job. Yeah. Felt shows which need to
[00:45:04] Zac: pick up burnout wars. 'cause I need pyro. Okay. And, uh, it's really hard to get those, those permits. You know? College boy,
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It's like, look, we didn't really get to talk much at, uh, after sema, but that event went well. You did. It's kind of funny to watch this 'cause you left, you went and you did your own thing. Mm-hmm. And then Hoonigan brought you back to run. Yeah. The thing that started it all so
[00:46:53] Zac: well. I mean, I, I knew that they got the space.
And then I knew that, you know, some certain people were like, no longer there, you know, and everybody like, you know, it was just cool people. So I, I actually made a call and I was like, Hey, you guys want to do this, right? And like, they, I knew they wanted to do a burny yard, right? So I was like, listen, just, how about this?
We'll figure out something. You just let us run our show like we've got. Two years of doing this. And we have a rock solid crew, but also like way more infrastructure than Hoonigan ever had.
[00:47:21] Brian: Yeah.
[00:47:21] Zac: When it came to it. 'cause we invested in all
[00:47:23] Brian: that, right? Yeah. Well you actually became like event organizers.
Yeah. Hoonigan was 30 different things at once. Yeah. And one day a week, like two days a year, we'd be like, Hey, we're gonna do an event. Yeah. W we get after it.
[00:47:35] Zac: Yeah. And so like it was cool to be have that res, you know, it's a lot of responsibility, right. But we got to organize all the cars that are gonna be there and all the logistics around everything.
And so we had like 124 different cars and we rotated 'em throughout the week. Whereas like before we'd maybe like, you know, you'd max out at like 40 'cause you, you keep 'em on site and stuff. And uh, it just became like a wild show because we have a crew of just absolute psychopaths from all over the world that have been like rolling with us for the last, you know, two years and, you know, it's been fun.
Right? We've been built a like family. Yeah. But it was cool like. To actually see it at, at the big show and see how it could operate and it went off without a hitch. And it was, it was awesome. And it took a lot of load off, I think, you know, the Hoonigan team, because like obviously they didn't have to think about all that shit.
Yeah. It's a, it's a ton of work to like organize that complete shit show.
[00:48:26] Brian: It's way more work than people realize. Yeah, it's a lot.
[00:48:29] Zac: And like, it just, I don't know. It was, it was awesome. And so it was like a culmination of, was kind of like that final sign off of like, or that, that stamp of approval, you know, that validation of like.
Fuck. Yeah. Like, we got this, you know? And I think it worked out. I mean, it worked out great for Hoonigan too, like Yeah. I mean that place was packed the entire time. And some absurd percentage of media from SEMA was just the Burny yard, you know? Oh, I
[00:48:51] Brian: know. It was crazy. Like an
[00:48:52] Zac: overwhelming amount of like, so the heard this from like a couple different sources, but they, they're like, yeah, it's, it's wild.
'cause like most of the shit that people were seeing on social was just all Burny yard. Yeah. Just, you know, Freddie on fire or whatever, like the, the dude Devin crawling up the container. Didn't expect that one, but like, no, it could have ended really bad. Yeah. But you know, he had
[00:49:14] Brian: it before you sent me the video.
In my feed was someone standing near the container and it just said, almost died at Burny Yard today. It was awesome. And it's, it's the kid super close and the car comes spinning at him and he kind of runs away. Yeah. And it's like so raw. 'cause it's just filming, not expecting the,
[00:49:30] Zac: one of the things we, so in years before we never did this Right.
And we're like, you'd always see like people hit the container and then like move back, you know? Yeah. So what we did this year is we actually, we put KRAS long ways, right? Mm-hmm. And to basically go up against the curb. So we knew that those containers couldn't move this year. Oh, okay. Right. And so we, we built it that way just in case like somebody smacked into it in like a truck or something, you know?
[00:49:52] Brian: Yeah.
[00:49:52] Zac: That way it's like, you know, we know it's not gonna take somebody's foot out or something like that.
[00:49:57] Brian: Tim, did you go to Summer of Shred? The first one we ever did at LS Fest? Nope. You were there though. Oh hell yeah. I actually wasn't 'cause I was on a different job. So like, I concepted the whole thing because we were talking because this is when daily Transmission was.
You know, doing really well. And I think we had this conversation of like, man, it'd be really cool to do in front of a live audience. We came up with the idea of Summer of Shred and you guys went to Holly Ls Fest and did that there. And then I remember 'cause you came back and you said to me, uh, Cleta said he is gonna do the same exact thing.
Yeah. Which is like, he's like, I love this. 'cause we invite, I mean he was, one of our guest drivers was with Leroy. That was Leroy was new. Yeah, right.
[00:50:36] Zac: He was, he literally like right after, he's like, man, this is like, this is sick. He's like, I'm gonna steal this. I was like, you should.
[00:50:40] Brian: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:50:41] Zac: Years later.
[00:50:42] Brian: Yep. Yeah. You know,
[00:50:43] Zac: now he's got like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I
[00:50:44] Brian: mean that was, that kind of was a big thing for him and the burn, I mean, in that, and I was listening to him talk the other day that the burnout stuff that he did is the reason that they bought the track because they started to realize like, Ooh, we could build an audience or something to come.
Um, but I, I'm stoked to see you guys do burnout wars. 'cause you know that it was always my dream for us to take burn yard on the road. I mean, it was like we did Irwindale and we did Irwindale every week, every. Month. Yeah. For six months straight. Oh, yeah. And we would've kept doing it if the lockdown didn't happen.
[00:51:12] Zac: The very, we did it,
[00:51:13] Brian: we remember we did the event the day before the lockdown came. Yeah. And someone, pa, because no one knew what COVID was yet. Yeah. So everyone's like, I don't know, there's this thing, it's COVID, or we weren't even calling it COVID, then it was still Coronavirus. And we're like, oh, this Coronavirus.
And that kid collapsed in, in the front row. Do you remember that?
[00:51:28] Zac: Oh, yeah.
[00:51:29] Brian: So it was the last Burny yard we ever did at Irwindale. It was a big one. And the kid, it was the biggest one we ever had. And the kid collapsed and fell over and everyone was like, he's got the Corona. We're all gonna die. We all went over there, we're like, I don't know, what should we do?
I don't know. Spraying with hand sanitizer. Let's keep it moving. Yeah. And then he woke up and we're like, all right, more burnouts. Let's go. Let's keep it going.
[00:51:49] Zac: The, you know. I don't know. I, correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't that thing sell like 10,000 tickets in like less than a day? The
[00:51:57] Brian: last one?
Yeah. The last one was, I don't think it was 10, but I think we did 7,500 something. I mean, it was the largest we could fit for that space. Yeah, so 'cause technically it wasn't the main, yeah. Know the main area. It was a banger though. It was crazy. It was a crazy, crazy night That was actually,
[00:52:12] Zac: you know, to see Ken, uh, whip the Huna corn at like full anger in that thing.
Like,
[00:52:17] Brian: you forget how fast the Huna corn is until you see it in a small area that a bunch of other cars were doing stuff in that you thought was cool. And then the Huna corn is three times the speed. It doesn't make sense. Yeah. It doesn't make sense when you see
[00:52:28] Dan: it. You physic I couldn't make sense of it in my brain how fast that was moving.
Yeah. And able to change direction. I know. It really makes, it doesn't look, it didn't look real.
[00:52:38] Brian: And this is why the gym, Kana films always worked in a way that, like the real wheel drive films don't work the same because the speed of the all wheel drive cars coming out of stuff. It's just like you can go do a donut and then be back at 60 miles an hour again in two seconds, where it's like harder to do that in the real drive cars and you just don't get the same experience.
It's like when you watch that in a small little spot, you're like, oh yeah, that's how that looks really fast.
[00:53:01] Zac: You know, the first year that I was down at Baja when, uh, Mason Trucks started coming out Yeah. And I remember being at a corner and just watching two the, by the way, Mason
[00:53:10] Brian: trucks are the all-wheel drive trucks.
Yeah. They were like kind of the guys to paint to pioneer the all wheel drive trophy truck. Yeah.
[00:53:15] Zac: And uh, I remember sitting there watching a corner where like two wheel drive trucks were coming through, and then I saw a Mason truck come through and I was like. Oh shit. Yeah. There's no way that any of these guys are catching up.
'cause they were just like instantly just fully wooded out of it and they were just shooting outta these corners, like slingshots. Oh yeah.
[00:53:31] Brian: I mean that was what made Ken wanna start racing. Baja was like, oh there's, there's an all wheel drive truck I could move into. Like that would be a lot of fun because that was just, you know, his style and how he enjoyed it.
So yeah man. Anyway, but back to barnyard. Um, yeah man, it was cool to see that. So are you guys still doing burnout wars? You got, how many events do you have this year? So
[00:53:52] Zac: we already got eight on the schedule. Um, we're waiting for, I mean, I don't know when this is going live, but, uh oh yeah, it's Christmas special.
But, uh, so we're trying to figure out if, uh, we're trying to just work a deal out with nascar mm-hmm. To see exactly what tracks we can do it at. Um, we did our first one last year at, uh, Atlanta Motor Speedway, at the Quaker State 400. Okay. It was awesome. 'cause you know, realistically NASCAR has gotten.
It's not as like aggressive and, you know, rowdy as it used to be. Right. And so sorry about that. I know. That must make you sad.
[00:54:23] Dan: Well, you know, but you know, they don't have holes in the helmet for their cigarettes anymore. Yeah,
[00:54:28] Zac: exactly. And you know, it was, it was one of these things where as, as soon as we'd start lighting off cars, like just all of the crowd was like, what is that familiar sound that I needed in my life?
You know, like little kids with mullets losing their mind, you know, and it was cool. Like, it was like, this is badass, obviously. Yeah. And we had, we had to work with like a really small space too, so we basically were running demos, but like, it was just cool to see the very last show being, you know, it had a lightning delay and it pushed us back to basically 40 or so minutes before the actual race was supposed to start.
So there's like a ton of people already in the stadium, a bunch of people walking in, and then this guy comes around, I said, fire it up, fire it up. We can go now. Right. Because like the light, you know, you have to wait like 30 minutes or whatever for the lightning delay. And so as soon as Zac's truck fired off and then, you know, I was on the microphone and he finished his run.
And I'm like yelling something over a microphone. And I turn around and I'm looking at the back of the stadium and like every one of the causeways, right. So like in, you know, where you get like concessions and stuff? Well, they're kind of open air. Right. And they got little like metal. Mm-hmm. Fencing and stuff.
But it was like every single square inch where somebody could be standing in this gigantic stadium is packed with people like going on over there, you know? Yeah. And then like all of the balconies for the VIP stuff, like they're just packed with people. And I was like, oh, this is cool. You know? It was just like.
People like it, you know? Mm-hmm. I mean, obviously it's really hard to just, it's really hard not to enjoy like a thousand horsepower blown methanol vh, just, you know, putting it on the chip. That's true. And just letting it eat. Very true. Well,
[00:55:56] Brian: it's crazy 'cause when we started all this, even just in the early Hoonigan days, like I'm talking, you know, Hoonigan.
[00:56:03] Australian Burnout Culture & Building a Sport
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[00:56:03] Brian: Sub a hundred thousand followers days, um, we would always share all the Australian burnout cars. And it's like, how is this not a thing in the States? Yeah. Like how is this not a thing? And it really, I don't think became a thing until the past two or three years. No. Like I think now you actually have Americans building.
Aussie style burnout cars. Yeah. And not just that you have the Aussie shipping cars here. Of course. So, and I mean, that's still one of the craziest days that ever existed at Oh yeah. Do you remember
[00:56:30] Dan: that? Yeah. I almost died. Yeah. We all did this stuff beach. Behind that beach, almost. Long Beach. All of Long Beach almost died.
[00:56:36] Brian: Were you behind? Um, I went
[00:56:37] Dan: with the, I had such a great time with them. I went with them to power crews. Oh yeah. Invited me like, yeah, you gotta come, mate. I went there and I fully accepted that this was the end. I was like, I'm gonna die here. By the way, Brad, always, how you doing?
[00:56:51] Brian: Do you remember? Cranky was full of me.
What was it full of methanol? Yeah. They just fit like, 'cause the pumps kept going and broke and it was just like three inches of methanol and they're like, all right. Yeah, yeah, we're good. Yeah. Most casual people.
[00:57:02] Zac: Yeah, no, uh, it's funny 'cause like, you know, Mick Brasher was basically on the circuit with us all year this year.
Yeah.
[00:57:08] Dan: And like you
[00:57:08] Zac: always ask
[00:57:09] Dan: about you, by the way.
[00:57:09] Zac: Did,
[00:57:11] Dan: I'll definitely come hang with him again. That those guys are great people and
[00:57:14] Brian: that is what got us kicked outta Long Beach. Yeah. But it was worth it. Yeah, it was totally
[00:57:18] Dan: worth it. I rode with lynching around Brainerd with no seatbelt, no helmet going, like a buck 20 passing cars on the drag strip.
Completely sideways, no breaks. And I was like, this is it. This is where I die. This is, and I'm all right,
[00:57:33] Zac: I'm good. Being one of my first summer nas I went to, uh, I watched Lynching win and it was the craziest feeling. 'cause like, you know, it was the first time I think a naturally aspirated cars won in like a really long time.
And I feel like he couldn't go, go out like a better dude. 'cause you know, he's like, Andrew's like a, a farmer. You know what I mean? Like, and he just like rocks up to burnout events and then draws like a full on psychopath. But I watched this dude do like a seven 20 into like, his tipping was like 1, 2, 3, 4.
And then like, he went all the way to the, the exit little area and then like spun it into that and then back. And it was just like, it was wild to watch. And like, we've had him at a bunch of like burnout wars events throughout the last year or two. And like, it's just badass to watch it. See, but like, that's one of, you know, we're trying to build a sport here.
Just kinda like Australia. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a, it's like a actual, like league Yeah. Real sport. Yeah. And uh, you know, that's always been the, the effort with burnout wars. We didn't really do that with Hoonigan. It was like a showcase, right? Yeah. It was just like, Hey, just party. Yeah. But like to have all the Australians.
Uh, over here and, you know, basically build a little family with those guys. But like, you know, it gives this like awesome benchmark for people to see, like, this is where you need to be at. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And like all those dudes have been rad to roll with because like, they've been sharing information, like helping dudes out, like, Hey, like you, you don't have this setup.
Right. You know, and like, it just fixing, you know? Mm-hmm. Because it's a very specific. Kind of like thing, you know, list of things that you kinda need. It's not crazy. Yeah.
[00:58:56] Brian: 160 mile hour wheel speed at a standstill is a specialized sport. Yeah. Imagine
[00:59:01] Dan: the trial and error, you know, the first hire to go at 200 miles an hour.
Yeah. Come right through the wheel. Well, yeah. And then also a hard lesson.
[00:59:08] Zac: Well also too, like there. Their knowledge of like, um, you know, like they'll go and run test runs, you know, and they come back and like, guys, like, maybe you should just do this in second gear 'cause like tires are gonna go too quick.
You know, like they could, you know, and like just helping everybody else out with like, Hey, how do you do a better run? You know? And everybody's still got that comradery. It's not like drag racing where like everybody's keeping It's all secretive. Yeah.
[00:59:27] Brian: All gate keeping the one, I think the thing that was most impressive to me with those guys in when they came to 6 21 was how much control they had.
'cause I just figured they just went out. Willy-nilly and hit stuff and whatever, but they were just like inches off the wall, like totally knew where their car was. Like some crazy situational awareness considering they can't see anything. No. Like once the smoke fills the cabin, like they're just like feeling it all out.
It's just braille and they, but they, they got it. And then when I went to, when I was in Australia, we went to Sydney Motorsports Park to test the, um, the brat with Travis, and they have a burnout pit there, like a proper burnout pit. I couldn't believe how small it was. Yeah. Like I didn't, like in my, you know, like it always just seems like it's bigger on camera and you go and you look and you're like.
Man, this is crazy to think the level of like tipping these guys would do. And it's not much bigger. It's longer, but it's not much bigger than like the area you guys have at semo. Like why, like Widthwise? No.
[01:00:23] Zac: And you don't want it to be, you know,
[01:00:24] Brian: like, yeah, yeah. No, of course. It's like a punk rock show. It makes it more intimate, so hell yeah.
[01:00:27] Dan: Well, I think coming from drifting, uh, you look at the burnout stuff and you're like, yeah, whatever. It's just burnout. But after riding with those guys in their cars and seeing how much actual talent it does take to do what they do, yeah. And it makes a lot more sense when you're actually in the vehicle of what they're doing with the proximity and how they're pitching it in order to go backwards and come so close to the walls and stuff like that.
It's like, dude, these guys are good at this.
[01:00:51] Drift Appalachia & Backroads Adventures
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[01:00:51] Brian: Yeah. All right, so to switch the topic to drifting, let's talk drift Appalachia, because, or however. However, are you supposed to say Appalachia for you guys? Appalachia, it doesn't matter. Appalachia.
[01:01:00] Dan: Appalachia. All right. Drift Appalachia. Drift Appalachia, whatever.
Because
[01:01:03] Brian: you've been doing a bunch of it. It is probably my favorite thing to see on Instagram. I've only missed
[01:01:08] Dan: one.
[01:01:09] Brian: I feel like I. I wish drifting became this 15 years ago. It would be interesting to see how different drifting would be, but I'm really excited about the future of drifting. 'cause there, I think there needs to be a lot more of this.
I think there will be. 'cause it is the most entertaining thing to watch. It looks so good. I don't even know, like I'm watching some of it. I'm sitting there being like, is that a second gear? But it doesn't matter 'cause it looks like the consequences are super high. We
[01:01:33] Dan: have one course that is second gear.
I, I, I mean very for every car, right? Yeah. Yeah. But most of the guys are running an LS or something like that. Right. We'll be in second gear. Um, 80 mile an hour wheel speed stuff. Yeah. Uh, will get higher there. But most of the ones in Kentucky are, I mean, you're over a hundred mile an hour wheel speed. So
[01:01:52] Brian: it's all third gear, third to fourth.
So lemme ask
[01:01:55] Zac: you this, how is that set up? Is that just like a section of road that's just shut down by police and then Yeah. You get like, do you have like. Basically sections where people can run and then they have to open it back up to traffic or so. Um,
[01:02:06] Brian: and, and before you even get there, just explain to everyone listening home who may not have this yet in their algorithm, but definitely wants in the algorithm what the guys at Back Roads of Appalachia and Drift out Hellia have done in terms of like access, road access and kind of I think yeah, changing sort of what American drifting at least looks like in the middle of the country.
[01:02:24] Dan: So it is kind of a group of guys that have worked everything together. The Drift group, it's uh, guys from Drift, Indy and US Drift. Um, and they have just basically found, searched for the best roads in Appalachia. Yeah. Uh, able to speak with the communities, work it out with the guys that we can shut down this area of road.
We have a nice little tour every single time we go. We go out and we go to the community. We have a nice drive out with all the cars so everybody can see the cars. You can't spectate the event. It's too dangerous. Oh yeah. Nice. It's something that you definitely would love to spectate, but you can't because it's too dangerous if you're there, it makes sense.
Mm-hmm. And even if you see it in the videos, if you go on Instagram or YouTube, look up Drift Appalachia, drift Appalachia, whatever it is. And uh, you'll be amazed. It is really, really fun to watch. It's sick because it's
[01:03:19] Zac: like, it's like Grand Prix to Formula One is like, this is like the Grand Prix. 'cause it's like you're on public roads technically.
Right. But it's like the craziest twisties through a mountain and you got trees lining and everything. It's like tarmac
[01:03:31] Brian: rally stage. Yeah. Spec roads. But it's also the qua. Like some, there's some great drivers who are showing up. But did you see, 'cause I know this, have you seen the Plymouth satellite that runs it?
Yeah. Dude. Like it's wild. I was talking to him.
[01:03:43] Dan: Kylie Mack. Yeah, dude. The beast. It's
[01:03:45] Brian: such a, like, it's so cool to see that car on those roads. It just feels so.
[01:03:50] Dan: And he's so cool, calm, collected. He is very consistent. He's one of my favorite drivers to drive with. Yeah. And I was telling you earlier about it, it, it's fun for me in the Miata to be stuck behind him.
He can't see it. But when I'm driving behind Kylie, I always find myself watching his car and not looking at what the fuck I'm actually doing it. 'cause you can't
[01:04:09] Brian: see around it. Not even that, it's
[01:04:11] Dan: just, it's, it's mesmerizing to see that car swinging out there. Yeah. And when you see it, it just doesn't make sense.
But it totally does. It is like we're in Appalachia, this is kind of some moonshine running shit right here. And it's like, it feels right. It just looks so good. Like I've seen and it sounds cool.
[01:04:25] Brian: I've seen muscle cars. A lot of guys have tried it. Like there's been Camaros and a bunch of different stuff.
You know, obviously Vaughn built that Mustang back in the day and like I've seen them out on track and it looks cool. But there's something about seeing muscle cars on like good old back roads that feel like there's something out of like a country music song. Yeah. And it's just so good.
[01:04:45] Dan: Well I think that drift appalachias, so.
Unique and cool. And the fact that it's all American bread out there anyway. Right. And the roads are brilliant. Yeah. Like, I mean, it's so good and the community is really supportive of it too. So when we go out there and we go downtown, you know, it's like we're gonna go out and we're gonna spend all the money we can.
It's, it's usually small towns. No, the organizers
[01:05:09] Brian: are really good. Yeah. Because it's back Roads of Appalachia used to also, and still do, they do a bunch of the hill climb stuff. Yep. They're involved in the rally stuff. And I think they've been really good at working with the C, all the communities in that area to not just get good access, keep it safe, make it cool, but also to make all the communities feel like they're getting something out of it.
[01:05:29] Dan: Right. Well, as a driver, and I don't know if a lot of people know that, we don't even know where we're going. Oh really? You get an email, oh, I love this. You wanna go,
[01:05:35] Brian: I love this.
[01:05:36] Dan: You wanna go? And everybody's waiting. Everyone I you wanna go? It doesn't, do you wanna go? Do you wanna go? Yeah, but I mean, you. If you're into drifting right now, you know if you want to, you want to be there.
Yeah. Everybody wants to go from professional down to grassroots. Doesn't matter. Everybody wants to go see it, check it out.
[01:05:54] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[01:05:55] Dan: And uh, you're just waiting for the call, right? It's basically, Hey, here's your email. We're going to, let's call it Kentucky.
[01:06:02] Brian: Yeah.
[01:06:03] Dan: Somewhere. And we'll let you know closer. But you have to lock in for this date, to this date, whatever.
So you get the email, you check that out, then you reserve your hotel, you get a pick of one or two. 'cause it's really small towns. Yeah, yeah. Uh, you pick that and then you drive there and you got a week pretty much allotted to staying at this place, wherever you are. And then the night of, they shoot out another email, which is basically MapQuest.
You're not allowed to take a picture of it. Six. You can't do anything. Six. And it's basically MapQuest. Alright, 6:00 AM get up, we're meeting at this spot. That's the keep away. All the other traffic and anybody who could come from the outside. Yeah. I mean, we can't even tell our friends, right? You're allowed to bring one person, uh, to kind of help you out.
Some guys will bring a couple more if you have a really serious car or something, but it keeps it small. It keeps it tight. And they try to, you know, kind of cycle through some drivers, right? Yeah, yeah. Like if you've done a couple, let's bring in some new guys, get 'em something. Um, but what a cool feeling.
You're driving off there in the morning, nobody knows where you're going and you know, you're just kind of rah rah, rah, rah rah. Just cruising around in race cars is like looking through the mist of the mountains. Like, where the fuck are we going? But it is like, everything you're looking at is like, is this the road?
'cause this is sick. And then some of the roads you get on, you're like, I don't know if I can do this. And then that ends up being the road, you know, you're driving down it and you get, you drive past and they're like, oh, what'd you think of the drive in it is like, man, that's pretty neat. Like, well, that's what we're driving today is like, fuck yeah.
Everybody's looking at each other like, who's going first?
[01:07:42] Zac: Nice. So other than being like an old school rave where you gotta like go meet a guy in a park and then get like a map, how do they do the shutdown? So is it actually like police shutdown roads or? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
[01:07:52] Dan: So, um, you know, it'll be run pretty much, let's call it 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM and every hour on the hour, 15 minutes, they allow traffic through.
Okay. And there's not much. Yeah. And most of the time people, it's a small town so people get keen to it. Mm-hmm. And they definitely wanna see and drive through and they're just looking. But imagine you just live there and you pull up and you see all these dudes pulled off to the side of the road with fucking parts flying everywhere.
Like if you crash. It's not, you're just picking up your bumper. Like there's Oh, yeah. Stuff everywhere. So it is, it's wild looking.
[01:08:29] Zac: Who is, so of all the ones you've been to, right? Like who are some of like the, the guys that nail it, like the fastest cars there, like the, they can really just turn it up and just bang.
[01:08:40] Dan: I mean, it's a handpicked group and a lot of guys are really good, but you see some of the usual suspects that you, one of my good friends, uh, from St. Louis, Andrew Lewis, he's a, he's a fast driver. Mm-hmm. He's really fun to chase. I really enjoy chasing him 'cause he, he'll bring you up a gear. Okay. But I mean, seeing any of the pros come out there and do something Chelsea does, he's always doing something stupid.
Chelsea's got a hundred PSI in the rear of a stock Mustang going ham. Uh, Reese Marin is, he's, I, I call him paint to paint because, you know, it's really. Narrow.
[01:09:17] Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
[01:09:18] Dan: But Reese, he don't give a shit. He's going from paint to paint every single time, just swaying off the bumper. And I was like, well, I don't really wanna chase him because what if he goes off, then I'm gonna hit him.
But I also want to chase him 'cause it looks sick. Yeah. But I think, uh, some of the most impressive, or Matt Kaufman and Matt Field. Oh
[01:09:37] Speaker 4: yeah.
[01:09:38] Dan: Matt Kaufman. Does Matt Kaufman stuff. Yeah. On the mountain. You know how, see I could see that like you look
[01:09:43] Brian: like Matt Kaufman at Laguna Seka into turn one, two. Yeah.
It's just, yeah,
[01:09:47] Dan: exactly. But you know, seeing that on the mountain is something different. And then, then seeing the C eight this year with Matt Field was, I mean, the sound of it just coming through the mountains, you know, he's coming and then you just can't explain the speed of it. You can see everybody else relatively moving fast.
Yeah. You have to like, it doesn't matter what cut from 200 to 600 horsepower, you're all kind of moving the same speed. Yeah. You kind of have to,
[01:10:12] Brian: I, I feel like, um, this is the first thing I've seen in drifting a long time. It's like made me really excited to want to go shoot drifting again. Like when I first met you.
The, the bashes were a lot of fun. Yeah. And I really enjoyed gonna the bashes and not so much 'cause the driving was top, top level, but the, the mood, the vibe was super rad. Whether it was where you guys had no Star Bash, lone Star Bash, um, you know, obviously East Coast Bash Right. All Star Bash. It just had like a cool vibe and it was a really cool era.
And then since then, I feel like a lot of stuff kind of moved, you know, to. Bigger tracks, which is cool, and like Laguna looks like a lot of fun, but it's, it is what it is. Yeah. This is like, man, I could see going out there and just like making a movie. Like it's really good.
[01:10:53] Dan: I mean, for me, like I, I really love Grid Life and all of those Yeah.
Things like that. And you know, the bucket list tracks.
[01:11:00] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[01:11:00] Dan: That's something in drifting that, you know, I have to do it.
[01:11:02] Speaker 4: Yep.
[01:11:03] Dan: Going out to Watkins Glen or whatever. It's like, yeah, I have to. Like, I just gotta do it. But the first time I went out to the mountain, I was hooked. I was like, this is what I've been dreaming of my whole life.
I, I grew up on back roads like this. I did this when I shouldn't have. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I really enjoyed that part of it. And I was like, you know, there's a little shithead in me that loves this. Yeah. I mean, it's, but also is like, I, I really pride myself on being a clean driver. Yeah. Yeah. And not having any mistakes.
And that's something I really thrive on out there is like, well, I like to go really fast and just feed me pavement and I'll figure it out. You know? And I, I think that's a really enjoyable part of drifting that I think I don't really care for at the track. Like, I don't care to really flick it and drag the wall and lose a bumper for no reason.
Right. Right. But if it's in the mountain, I'll risk it a little harder. Yeah. Yeah. And it, it's kind of weird. Yeah. That setting
[01:11:52] Zac: is like, there's, I mean, there's something just mystical about it, you know, like. Uh, setting's, everything. Right? Of course, of course. The way it looks is so sick, like on, on camera, it looks really
[01:12:02] Dan: badass.
So the best is at the end of the day, once, you know, in the morning everybody's nervous. Yeah. Yeah. And some of the guys have never been there before. You're nervous, you're trying to memorize the road and, and what to do. Uh, everybody's driving fairly far apart or in their own groups. Yeah. I'm driving with this guy, I'm driving with that guy.
But once you get to the end of the day, or, or even on day two when everybody's a little bit hungover and starting not to care, but you memorize the road, you're starting to gel with each other. You had the night to talk about mm-hmm. What you did. And that's basically one of the most fun parts of it is day one, once you're done and you come back, you're like, we survived something.
You feel like you came back from war. You're like, who's here? You look around and you're like,
[01:12:41] Brian: he made it through the night. Yeah, but I mean,
[01:12:44] Dan: it's no shit. Would you drive through the course? Sometimes you don't know who's off. You could just see a roof. Oh yeah. And everybody's still drifting and you're like, oh, I don't know.
And then you get back to the lineup and you're like, who are we missing? Who? But, but you know, you get back to day one. From day one, you're talking about it. And that's when we go hang out with everybody. Yeah. Downtown talk about the day and everybody kinda collects themself. Day two, everybody comes out way too hard.
[01:13:07] Brian: Different location or same location, day two, uh,
[01:13:10] Dan: sometimes they do a different location. Right. But, uh, most of the time now it's kind of sticking to the same one. Yeah. But now
[01:13:15] Brian: confidence is through the roof.
[01:13:17] Dan: Well, when the confidence gets up. Yeah. Day two, that's when it is like, oh. Shit's going down today.
[01:13:21] Brian: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:13:22] Dan: That's when you get 10 cars out there at the same time. Everybody's just on each other's doors and uh, yeah, it gets loose, but it's, it's American
[01:13:28] Brian: toge like I think we've never really had that. I mean, I know there's been a lot of like illegal toge stuff that happens, but this was cool 'cause I think Europe had a version of it where, where they started drifting a lot of the hill climb events.
So you'd see that, especially Eastern Europe. Yeah. And it was like, man, that looks really cool. Obviously you don't see as much of it coming outta Japan. Not saying it's not happening, but you're not seeing as much of it coming outta Japan as we did when we were younger. And this is just like, it looks great.
It looks awesome. It's one of those things where it makes me, like, if I was watching that as a 20-year-old kid, I'd be like, yep, that's what I wanna build
[01:14:01] Dan: a car for. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. Exactly. And I, I think it's something that people can aspire to, you know, it's like you have to put in the work to get there.
You, everybody's watching is basically kind of where it goes. It's like we're watching for the good drivers who are consistent. Because we're all a team out there. Yeah. Yeah. That's, you know, egos aside, we all have to be a team or, or we're all gonna die. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that's kind of it. We're all driving together and it, it becomes kind of a family thing out there.
It's really interesting. But for you, the cinematography of it, the videos stuff. Oh, it's, it's just amazing.
[01:14:33] Brian: Even just the regular, anything like that, even just iPhone stuff, you're like, that's a killer shot. Yeah. It all just looks so good. And if you're
[01:14:38] Dan: standing on the side there and you realize like, shit that's 300 feet down.
Yeah. Don't step back when it gets real close.
[01:14:45] Brian: I, uh, like three years ago I started writing a screenplay that I'm actually finishing right now. And it's basically like a story of like a modern moonshine setup. And one of the reasons I start got back into it, I started writing the script before I left Uniken and I got back into writing the script because of watching those for that I was like, I gotta go film this.
Yeah. This is just so sick.
[01:15:07] Car Projects, Power Builds, and Unfinished Business
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[01:15:07] Dan: I'll say it's so good. Like I never left drifting. I've been drifting.
[01:15:12] Brian: Yeah,
[01:15:12] Dan: yeah, yeah. For years. Yeah. And I, I love it and I've always loved it, but it was stagnant for me for a while. Yeah. I could admit that. And this just jolted it back in. I feel like a little kid. That's why my car is on a rotisserie right now, you know?
I was like, I need more. I, I don't know what it is, but I need more. But if I don't need more, I have the Miata. There you go. Um, so yeah, backup car, but I, I mean his, breathe the life back into me in drifting. And I full bore. I'll never miss one. Hell yeah. If I'm invited, I'm going. We need to see Dan with about 800 horsepower.
[01:15:46] Brian: Dan
[01:15:46] Dan: doesn't even need
[01:15:46] Brian: horsepower.
[01:15:47] Dan: I know.
[01:15:48] Brian: Dan
[01:15:48] Dan: just needs, I know he doesn't need it. It doesn't mean he can't have it. Well, let me tell you what, I just got my motor back and I think we're gonna have at least 800 horseback. Is this the one J? It's a two J, not a two J. Uh, yeah. So fully built two J. Um. And I'm gonna put the quinche on finally.
[01:16:04] Brian: Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah. Is it the, which one do you have? It's the albums. Albums, yeah. ST six. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's the big
[01:16:09] Dan: one. It's actually out of a V eight supercar. So I have the V eight supercar set up, which means I have to make kind of a little bit of, uh, more modification. This is huge.
[01:16:22] Brian: Luckily, I think, you know, a guy who fabricates pretty well. Yeah,
[01:16:25] Dan: yeah. Sick. It's kind of hard to get him to do it sometimes.
[01:16:29] Zac: Well, maybe the mountains gonna breathe life back in a dance. Yeah.
[01:16:32] Brian: Speaking of unfinished projects, how's your truck doing?
[01:16:35] Zac: Which one?
[01:16:36] Brian: I don't know. What do you have nowadays? I'm even paying attention, so I got
[01:16:38] Zac: my K five Still that runs great.
Makes way more power than it needs to. Yeah. Yeah. It's like over a hundred more horsepower with the new motor set up. And it's like way more aggressive. Right. Uh, just over a hundred from what? It used to make 7 33, now it makes 8 61.
[01:16:54] Brian: Yeah, definitely. Responsible amount of power, you know? Yeah. But
[01:16:56] Zac: it, you
[01:16:57] Brian: know, it's still great, you
[01:16:57] Zac: know?
Yeah. Fires up every time, you know, it's just, you know, it's, it's reliable. It's a big block, you know what I mean? Got it. It's, it's not like stretched to its limit by any means, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's still pretty, like you could daily it if you can afford it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Oh,
[01:17:10] Brian: I, I hear you. I mean, I have a van that now, uh, it's still working out.
Still teething some issues, but engine wise it's great and it's like 700. It's like the beginning of the tune. Mm-hmm. It's like, I don't know why I need this. Yeah. Well, but it's cool to have.
[01:17:25] Zac: Yeah. Then, uh, I just, we just got the Tahoe running. I did a shakedown run actually just last week. And, uh, it's, uh, completely undrivable on the street.
I mean, it is, it's drivable, but it's like as soon as you breathe any throttle onto it, it just blows the drag radios off.
[01:17:41] Brian: So you. You built that to be a, this first stat? Yes. Originally we set up, I mean, that was like when this first stat was sort of booming for us. Yeah. And I You were like, I'm gonna build a TVT car.
Yeah. Obviously a lot has changed since then. Yeah. We all left TB t's no longer a thing. So what is it now? Is it still just a drag car? No. Or is it gonna become, so I wonder
[01:17:59] Zac: car because I, again, it built it to do like drag and drive stuff and it was like real fast. And then, you know, we just nuked everything.
And then, uh, once we started doing burnout wars, I was like, well, I've always wanted a big like. 8, 10 71, whatever, like sticking through the hood on something. So I was like, let's just, you know, I'll build it for burnouts, but like I'm, I kept the four wheel drive system. Right, of course. Uh, 'cause like, you know, four wheel drive burnouts look way sicker.
[01:18:23] Brian: Who had that red, um, Chevy pickup truck that was all wheel drive at? Oh, that thing was ripping. Dude, that, yeah, that thing eats. It was just cool to watch Center access donuts in a pickup truck in a full, in like, yeah, full size and a
[01:18:37] Zac: relatively like simple setup. I mean like same basically front diff and stuff that I run and transfer case it rips.
So, but yeah. Built that built like a, you know, blown 4 27 for it. And, uh, you know, it's, it's like way too race car now. It was supposed to stick. Yeah. Kind of like it, it was supposed to like tow the line of like streetcar, but now it's like just even just shaking it down, I was like, I have to have a race seat in this thing.
'cause like, there's no way like, what's
[01:19:03] Brian: in there now? Like a bench or something? No,
[01:19:04] Zac: like a big comfy leather gm. A bark lounger. But yeah, basically like a, so, um, but yeah, it's, it's rad. So soupy is actually gonna finish up the wiring on it this week and actually tomorrow he is gonna take it over to his shop and then we can actually finally dino it.
We took it to the dyno before sema and then we're having some problems with the trans controller communicating with the transmission. So we had to break it in, only had like first and second gear and it just for some reason wouldn't shift up. Uh, we got that figured out and, um, so yeah, like I'm excited to see what kind of power it actually puts down.
But like seat of the pants, dno, it's definitely making over a thousand foot pounds of the tire, like effortlessly. Um, so that's rad. Uh, completely unnecessary. And then the, the Turbo Escalade. I gotta, I gotta, I forgot
[01:19:49] Brian: that you, I thought that was supposed to be Mike's. It is. But, but you, I gave,
[01:19:54] Zac: he has the title, I gave it to him, but like, he had nowhere to store it.
And I was like. I, I, let's just do something stupid with it. And, um, you know, Chris Klar, oh, whatever. Anyway, like I was like, Hey, you know what Summit's got this, like turbo kits that they're making now. Like let's just do like a budget build to see if we can make 600 wheel for less than 6,000 bucks all in with the cost of the car.
So it was like completely stock motor. Um, I wound up putting my spare trans for the Tahoe in it, right? Uh, so that obviously. Would blow the budget way outta the water. But I figured like, you know what, that four L 65 would've just nuked itself like instantly, right? Yeah. So this is
[01:20:31] Brian: like Monster garage rules.
Yeah. Like it's a $5,000 budget, but Jesse just gave you a $20,000 transmission, so you're fine now.
[01:20:38] Zac: But, uh, the, that thing eats and it's so stupid. How? Well, like, it pisses me off because like, it is a 300,000 mile stock, LQ nine with a turbo on it. Giant injectors and like two fuel pumps and just bigger fuel lines.
That's it. And a tune, right? HP tuners, whatever. And like it made 895 foot pounds of torque on the dyno. Like, we were like, how is this not just throwing a rod out the, they're always the ones. Those are always the ones. I think the rule is
[01:21:04] Brian: just try not to build power and then you build power. Yeah. Like Ron was like, I'm gonna build a 400 horsepower evo, and somehow he built an 850 horsepower evo.
He was like, I wasn't trying to make that power. Meanwhile, everyone else I know is like, we're gonna make a thousand horsepower and it's like 7 27. Yeah. Like what, what at those a thousand, you're like, I don't know. Didn't work out that way. Yeah. When you don't try, it just comes easier.
[01:21:24] Zac: Yeah. But I will say, uh, the compression on that motor's, so I could turn it over with a three-eights ratchet with all the spark plugs in it.
And like, the power curve looks like a bell curve. So like you cram a bunch of boost into it and like it'll make the power, but then it starts like teeing off like yeah, whatever. It's fun. But it was fun for doing, you know, multi block long burnouts and stuff. Yeah. And we, uh, Ron had designed those, uh, those spinners.
Yeah, yeah. Those Cuban link gold spinners and, uh, put those on it. That was fun, you know, but I got, I, I smoked the transmission in it 'cause I, it mess happens, you know, that was. We welded the diff because it basically, the diff said no more after. Yeah. You know, you
[01:22:06] Brian: don't have to explain to either of us why you welded the diff you can keep going.
Yeah. But then we didn't do it. Right.
[01:22:10] Zac: Right. Like, so basically we caused a bunch of binding in the rear end, so it was like trying to drag a boat. Right. And then, you know, driving it around doing a couple more multi block long burnouts with it. 'cause you know, that's what it's for. Uh, yeah. Might have got that trans up to about 500 degrees, which, uh, not good in the world of transmissions.
So that happened. So I gotta pull that thing out. So that's really the only truck that's not running right now.
[01:22:36] Brian: You still got the Corvette?
[01:22:37] Zac: Oh yeah. Got the second one. I had that grand sport for a while. I sold that to Freddie LSX.
[01:22:42] Brian: Okay.
[01:22:43] Zac: And then I wound up, I, I missed it a lot and I found this like impossible deal on a Z six in Florida.
Oh, okay. And then Z six is a move.
[01:22:51] Brian: Yeah. I
[01:22:52] Zac: love that.
[01:22:52] Brian: It's one of the, it the Z six. Changed my mind about Corvettes. Yeah. It's one of those cars when I Dr. It's a C six. Yeah. Yeah. C six. C six. C six I think is one of the greatest cars. It's great. It's fantastic.
[01:23:03] Zac: It's perfect. It like, 'cause it's not like it revs, it's
[01:23:06] Brian: fun to drive.
It handles really well. You could take it stock to the track and rip like it's fun. Oh
[01:23:10] Speaker 4: yeah.
[01:23:10] Zac: I will say that. It's an earlier one. So like, it doesn't have like all the heat and sound insulation. Yeah. So like the, the center console, if you put your phone in it will like, go into limp mode. Like the, the phone will be like overheating 'cause it gets like a billion degrees in the torque tube area.
[01:23:24] Brian: I, I'll tell you a quick story on that. When the, when it first came out, it, it wasn't even available for sale the dealership yet. GM gave me one when I was at Rides magazine and you know the bull run rally? Yeah. Yeah. So it was like, yeah, it was like Goldberg's thing,
[01:23:35] Zac: right?
[01:23:36] Brian: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was kind of like Timo Gumball rally and um, we did New York to LA mm-hmm.
And I was still like an absolute shithead at that point in my life. And we were cruising through Utah for like, I don't know, like two hours at over one 50. And we. Got to, we got to the hotel that night and I went to go take my luggage out and it had melted to the carpet in the back. Yeah, yeah. Like the actual, like plastic from the luggage had just melted into the carpet because it got so hot.
[01:24:06] Zac: Yeah. Uh, similar story. Yeah. When I got, so I, I bought that in Florida. Right. And Shannon from Hobby Shop Garage had like, uh, picked it up and like stored it for me until I like could flew that fly there. And then I did like heads cam by the way, funny thing when I pulled the valve cover off the, I wish I would've filmed this, but like one of the valve retainers was like kicked up and it was like ready to drop a valve.
'cause like, that's why I got it so cheap. Nobody ever fixed the heads or anything like that. And you could like rock the valve like this in the seat. Yeah. Probably not good. But uh, but yeah, I did the heads cam stuff and then did burnout wars in Orlando and then I drove it from Orlando to Houston and I did it in like eight hours.
Right. Which is like. Common. Yeah. Yeah. And that's with three gas stops. Right. So that was like a, you know, pretty consistent 1 55 ish, you know, cruise control. It got great gas control. Yeah. Like, you know, I left really early in the morning and then, you know, and like, uh, dude, that thing was getting like 19 miles to the gallon.
Oh yeah. Even with a cam,
[01:25:06] Brian: like, well that's six gear. Like, it would do like 30 miles to a gallon on avenue. Does Coose control
[01:25:10] Zac: work at 150? Yes. Yes it does. Interesting. It's an early, you know, it's an oh seven, so, you know, they didn't have all the bullshit controls. Keep pressing the Plus it's a, so it's a T 56 car.
And so the gearings so long, like with the cam, like you, you can't even use six gear until 'em in like 90.
[01:25:25] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[01:25:25] Zac: You know, and then like at one 50 it's at like 2,400 RPM, you know, so it's like, it's so wide.
[01:25:33] Brian: Yeah. It, no, it's a, it's a great car. I absolutely love those.
[01:25:37] Dan: I never liked vets. I didn't either, you know, but that, that was, that
[01:25:40] Brian: car made me change my mind.
And now I gotta say, man, like. Slammed kitted. C fives. Yeah. On Cool Wheels. I'm into. I didn't get to, I saw it on Three Spokes the other day. I didn't finish my sentence. Oh, okay. I never liked them, but,
[01:25:54] Dan: but I did get the drift one, and then I was really mad at the last 10 to 15 years of my life, I spent fucking building shit cars and that, and that thing just works.
Yeah. You put co overs on it.
[01:26:04] Zac: Okay. You're done. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look for the money, right? Like a, a C 6 0 6 is basically unbeatable for the dollar amount. Like, so I got mine for like 30 grand. Right. Which is like pretty, that's super low, right. But for like that you could get 'em. So for like 40,000 bucks you could get a pretty nice one.
Yeah. That's like
[01:26:23] Brian: owned by a guy with New Balances. Yeah.
[01:26:24] Zac: Basically, you know, and like, they are like, you can't, you can't match that level of performance for that dollar amount, you know, and it's like, it's a, it's as sick as fuck starting point, right? You don't even have to like put, I mean, yeah, coil overs makes it way better, but you know, you could just drop it down on the, uh, on the, uh.
What, what are those things called? 'cause it's got the, uh, it's got the transverse leaf springs. Oh yeah. Yeah. You know, so you like, you just put the stops all the way down it, like it dumps it. Carriage suspension. Yeah, exactly. And like, dude. Yeah, they
[01:26:53] Dan: didn't change much.
[01:26:55] Brian: It works. It
[01:26:55] Zac: works. It works enough.
It's not the best,
[01:26:58] Dan: you know, I, it's a fun car to drive. You know what though? It's numb. It's kinda boring. The in, in drifting. Oh, okay. In drifting, sir. Okay. The, the trick clarify
[01:27:06] Zac: the crazy thing. I had never driven one with a stock shifter and that, that one had, it was all stock, right. And I was like, what the fuck is this?
It felt so sloppy and gross. And like, the moment I changed the shifter, just like the shifter alone was like, oh, it feels way tight. Like, everything just felt so much better. So I will say shifter definitely helps. Probably, you know, fresher suspension too.
[01:27:31] Brian: Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. Um, what do you guys got planned for the new year?
Anything good?
[01:27:37] Dan: I gotta finish my S 14. It's, it's really not close. Yeah. Yeah. I saw the photo of it. It
[01:27:45] Brian: looks as far from finished as it could possibly. It's
[01:27:48] Dan: further, it's like an afternoon. It's getting further away. Yeah. That's, uh, every time I work on it, it gets further away from being done.
[01:27:53] Brian: Take it from someone who's been there.
[01:27:55] Dan: It won't be bad sell it, it won't, it won't be bad. I mean, for me, this is, I've always wanted a race car. Yeah. I wanna build myself a race car. So I've taken my time a little bit. Yeah, that's fine. If I ran out of budget. And then are you making content about this? Yes.
[01:28:09] Brian: Yeah. Uh,
[01:28:11] Dan: well, I mean,
[01:28:12] Brian: I only say it like that because the other day I got to work on something and not use a camera while I was doing it.
That's so nice. Like, this is so nice. Well, that's why it's pleasant
[01:28:20] Dan: where it is right now, because I was making content about it. Yeah. And then I felt bad about it for a long time. Uh, and then I built basically the same setup for one of my friends with no cameras. And it was great. And it was great. Went super fast, it was fantastic.
And I was like, whoa, there's no reason I can't do this. Myself. Mm-hmm. Because I literally just did it. That's a lot. Works. So I'm gonna do that and just kind of leave something on, uh, in the background, just to just live stream it. Just, you know, just do a full live. I explain what, just be like, eh, you know, I just wanna, I just wanna show people what I've done.
Um, and I, I, I would really just more like to show it off as I'm driving this season, uh, in Drift Appalachia and drift into gp. Sounds like fun. Hell yeah.
[01:29:02] Brian: Grid life too this year.
[01:29:04] Dan: We'll see.
[01:29:04] Brian: Yeah. If you get done,
[01:29:05] Dan: like I, like I said, I mean, I love the big tracks. They're bucket list things, but if there's a mountain anywhere near it, nah, there's, I don't care what it is that don't invite me to anything unless it's the mountain.
[01:29:17] Brian: I like this. I like this new reinvigorated. Yeah, it's good. Manang end man. Is it?
[01:29:21] Dan: I really love it. Hell yeah, brother.
[01:29:22] The Next Big Trip: Elements of Danger?
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[01:29:22] Brian: So guys, I brought this up before. I wanna say it live. I think we need to do like a reunion. It's good to have you guys around down. Yeah. I mean, I see you a little bit. I haven't seen you in forever.
Yeah. But I think like, get the whole crew together. Go do something.
[01:29:35] Zac: You know, I've been itching to just get a bunch of shitty cars and just get, it's all, this is how this
[01:29:40] Brian: story always starts. Let, let, let's let, let's spit some, let, let's spend the next 10 minutes spitballing some ideas. What do we do?
[01:29:45] Zac: Okay, here's what we do.
Right? We kidnap everybody.
[01:29:47] Brian: Right. Okay. That's, that's obviously, that's how it starts. We get, we get a bunch of day,
[01:29:50] Zac: we get a, we find a
[01:29:52] Brian: kidnap, everyone, I get that. We find a bunch of jalopies
[01:29:56] Zac: and then, you know what, we, we should go on an adventure, preferably either on or off road. Preferably, if we're doing an offroad, it should be in stuff that shouldn't be offroad
[01:30:05] Brian: 100%.
Yeah. And Mexico,
[01:30:08] Zac: Mexico works. Yeah. You know, and then, you know what, we should just, we should go have some fun, you know, if stuff breaks, well, we try to fix it and then if, if, if not, abandon it. Yeah. We'd leave it there with a title and, you know, uh, the thank you note.
[01:30:20] Brian: I mean, I like How big do you think we should go?
You think we'd do like a cross country trip with like a mixture of everything in it?
[01:30:25] Zac: It'd be kind of cool if there's a way we can include like. You know, other stuff like, I don't know, offshore race boats, helicopters, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be pretty other ways to die. Everybody
[01:30:36] Dan: pick a car, right?
You pick a car and then when we show up, you draw straws for which car you actually get.
[01:30:43] Brian: Everyone's there like, I don't want the car Scotto picked. I don't want the car. Scott picked. Yeah. The most I show up and I'm like, um. So anyway, guys, so this is a really interesting Audi, the power steering system runs off of a special mineral oil
[01:30:59] Zac: that's only available in three states.
Have fun qu of ral work. Yep. Some I've always wanted to, you know, watching the hill climb stuff that in Colorado where they're doing it in like, you know, second gen Camaros and like G bodies and stuff. Mm-hmm. Looks so fun, but like something just in the dirt with like an old,
[01:31:16] Brian: you know, so, so here's the idea that I had, I had briefly I thought about was.
Every person gets to, and we'll keep it a secret for everybody else, but I'll, I'll be like, you know, generally I like being the ringleader. So I'll, I'll, I'll figure out these pieces, but I'll work with everyone where everyone gets to pick one thing we do, but then no one else knows what we're doing. So it's like, there's the Zac event and like the Zac event could be what we're gonna do in Colorado, but then no one knows how to prep their car 'cause they just don't know what they're gonna get into.
Like, they don't know what we're gonna do. And then every day is like, I don't know, Dan's decided that we're gonna, we're gonna go all drift this, this mountain road and I'll die. And it's like, you know, everybody gets like a different thing that becomes like, okay, this is the day
[01:31:59] Zac: we should just call us.
Elements of danger.
[01:32:01] Brian: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It should be the end forever now. I just think it would be, did you ever do one of the, what did you guys, did you ever do any of the big adventure trips? Or were you always stuck at homework on
[01:32:15] Dan: what
[01:32:15] Brian: are about
[01:32:16] Dan: Yeah. Which one did you do? All of our shit worked because I was there.
Working on it.
[01:32:22] Brian: I know. So you're saying, 'cause you didn't go to Baja for either of the trips, did you?
[01:32:25] Dan: I did go, yeah. Oh wait,
[01:32:26] Brian: you went to the second
[01:32:27] Dan: trip? What was that the second trip? Was it the second trip or the first trip? No, I didn't go on the first one. Okay. The second one because yeah, I went on the second one.
Did you come on the second one? Yeah, I came. No, no, no s You went on the hill when you were jumping trucks.
[01:32:42] Brian: Oh, you went on that car. Oh that, yeah. When we drove
[01:32:45] Dan: the freaking explorer with no windshield and I was crying. You went on that, that birthday went one. You went on
[01:32:49] Brian: that one. That was a good trip. I wasn't there for that.
Those the three
[01:32:51] Dan: story bunk bed, I fell off the top. Yeah. Brooks and Dan. Man, Brooks and Dan.
[01:32:56] Brian: Because like for me, the, you know, it's years past now and I look back and it's like, I think scumbag. Was one of the best trips. Oh yeah. Super fun. Felt super dangerous the whole time. But even that road trip that you and I took in, um, uh, when we went and we bought the Oldsmobile Yeah.
And drove in the rain with No, because you remember, you remember the Oldsmobile had no roof. Yeah. Like just, it wasn't a convertible, not just Rain was just roofless. We drove in the, one of the worst like Midwest rainstorms for like two hours. It just didn't stop. There was like water standing in the bottom.
Like you push the, the gas pedal down and you'd hear like splashing noises. 'cause there was so much water in the car. And it was just great. It was great. I missed all, they were all miserable while they were happening. But like, I look back and I, I need one of those in my life. You
[01:33:39] Dan: know what I, I forgot about that.
I really enjoyed with Vince and Mike of course when we were in Mexico. Yeah.
[01:33:45] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[01:33:45] Dan: But Vince and I drove past our Airbnb 'cause we was like, we gotta jump this thing. We never even got a jump. Oh yeah. And I saw the guy with the excavator and I was like, fucking drive up to him. This was like favorite
[01:33:56] Brian: stories.
[01:33:57] Dan: Hey, uh. Speak English. He's like, yeah, man, what's up? And I was like, you build a jump. He's like, absolutely. How big. I was like, we gotta go tell the guys. We found the right guy. He is like, yeah, well anyway, I own this part of the beach and we can do whatever we want. He's just built this massive jump, just
[01:34:16] Brian: airing.
Airing that thing out. And then you guys were jumping out that pool too, right? You found the band? Yes.
[01:34:21] Zac: Yeah. We found the abandoned like so good. Yeah. That that was actually the dude, the pool session. That thing felt like, it felt like, you know, you'd found like a six spot to skate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that whole trip felt like, yeah.
It's way
[01:34:31] Dan: different to throw a skateboard over something into a pool than it is to drive a fucking Bronco into it. Or an explorer with no windshield. Oh yeah. That was a fun trip,
[01:34:40] Zac: man. I, I forgot all about that.
[01:34:42] Dan: It was really good. Yeah, we
[01:34:43] Zac: did some cool shit.
[01:34:44] Dan: Yeah, for sure.
[01:34:46] Zac: Yeah. But like those, those adventures were really fun.
I mean, they, they, to be fair, some of them really sucked when it was like, oh yeah, that should be a two hour drive, and it took like 13.
[01:34:56] Brian: Yeah. It's all fun now. Yeah. You forget those parts later. Like
[01:34:59] Zac: remember like overheating in the middle of like Woodward and then having to push that thing
[01:35:04] Brian: kind of, but like it's all a blur now.
Yeah. I also just remember how cool it was to just cruise it and like sit in the back and like, oh yeah, yeah. It's pretty cool.
[01:35:11] Zac: Dude's pulling up on like 30 inch rims on like mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:35:15] Wrap-Up & Holiday Farewell
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[01:35:15] Brian: That was a good time. That was good. The, um, no, that would be a, that would be a fun one. I think we should try to put that together.
So
[01:35:22] Speaker 4: yeah.
[01:35:23] Zac: Anyway, tempted. Yeah. Comment below if uh, you wanted to see this happen and also
[01:35:28] Brian: comment, no comment below. 'cause like we don't have like Hoonigan budgets like that anymore. So comment below if we can stay at your house. Yeah. Fix cars in your garage. Eat your food. Ask your mom and dad,
[01:35:37] Dan: you know, that's fantastic.
Just stay on stranger's couch. Just crash along the way. You never know what you get into. I asked Brian if I could crash onto his couch today and here I am on a podcast. Yeah, look, now you're on a
[01:35:47] Brian: podcast. Look, look, that's how you spent the last hour and a half. He just showed up. And here we are. So well everybody.
Um, happy holidays, Merry Christmas, all that good stuff. Yeah. So thanks for coming out guys. This fun. Yeah, no worries man. Was No, we talked about a bunch of random stuff. Hopefully it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. I can't wait to go on a trip. You guys ready for a trip? Yeah. What's a good time of year? Probably when it's really hot today.
Let's go tomorrow. Or really cold tomorrow. Not like, don't even hash out, not temperate. It should No plan. Don't even hash it out. No plan. We'll pick up any on the way out and then we'll go get hurt. Just text. Text, right? Yeah, just text somebody. We'll pick you up. No,
[01:36:22] Dan: remember we're not texting anybody. It's kidnapping is where we started kidnapping.
We forgot to ride down. Oh, right, right.
[01:36:26] Brian: I first rule, first rule of adventures. Were just kidnapping. Already forgot
[01:36:30] Zac: mid-January. You know, let's start in the mountains.
[01:36:32] Brian: Yeah. And then just basically just, we could just scroll through. We could just scroll my marketplace saves and just hit something and just see what we got.
[01:36:40] Dan: If this is the last episode of this podcast, you know what it's, you know where to
[01:36:43] Brian: find us in a junky, in a junky junkyard in Idaho trying to figure out in
[01:36:48] Dan: someone else's basement that we don't know.
[01:36:54] Speaker 4: Oh,
[01:36:54] Brian: oh boys. Anyway, thank you very much guys for coming on. It's good to see you both. Yeah. And uh,
[01:36:59] Zac: yeah, thanks for having
[01:37:00] Brian: us.
Yeah, man. See you.
[01:37:07] Speaker 5: The mailbox is the mailbox, is the mailbox. Accept any messages at this time. Goodbye. Goodbye.
[01:37:22] Brian: This is a special thanks to all of you who not only watched all the way to the end, but helped make very vehicular a massive success already this year. Thank you very much from all of us here at the show. Happy holidays. We'll see you next year. I got a little secret to share and that's, uh, I like talking a lot and for long periods of time, fortunately a lot of people know my secret, including my friends over at Vyper Industrial who said, you guys need stools that you can sit on for hours.
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This super Grippy tire is set to drop next year, coming in over 50 sizes, covering 13 to 21 inch wheels. That's right. Whether you drive a mark one rabbit or a GT three RS, the Sport R will fit the bill. And as you know, I've rock rocks forever. I got 'em on all my cars and trucks. Typically on set. I can't wear sunglasses.
Why? 'cause I'm often looking at a screen and a lot of times it's hard to really see what's going on if my lenses are too dark. But Heat Wave fix that problem. These new photochromics, they adjust from almost clear to a pretty dark tint, depending on the sun, which is great because when I was in Australia filming Gymkhana, it was one really bright, especially in the outbreak, and there's also a ton of flies out there.
These prevented them from getting into my eyes. I don't actually understand how the technology works. They told me it's wizardry. I believe them. You should too. You also get yourself a pair, and if you have an extra large head,
[01:39:39] Speaker 4: they fit pretty nicely.