#dogoodwork

Scaling Your Business with Your Spouse Without Relationship Ruin with Kyle and Ariel Tresch 

In this podcast episode, host Raul talks to Kyle and Ariel, a couple who juggle marriage and business together. They share their journey of overcoming their 'anti-honeymoon phase', where early struggles in balancing their romantic and entrepreneurial lives led them to create unique strategies for success. They detail their methods such as establishing a unified vision, holding regular check-ins, and leveraging each other’s strengths. Kyle and Ariel also discuss their approach to helping other couples achieve business and relationship harmony, emphasizing the importance of alignment on vision and goals, and the transformative power of their methodology.

00:35 Navigating the Anti-Honeymoon Phase
06:45 Creating a Unified Vision
12:18 Practical Habits for Couplepreneurs
15:09 Challenges and Weird Experiences
22:09 Conclusion and Where to Find Us


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Connect with Raul: 
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https://dogoodwork.io/free-growth-resources

What is #dogoodwork?

#dogoodwork is not a label but a way of living.

It is the constant and diligent effort to achieve a new level of excellence in one’s own life.

It is the hidden inner beauty behind the struggle to achieve excellence.

It is not perfect but imperfect.

It is the effort, discipline and focus that often goes unnoticed.

The goal of this podcast is to highlight that drive.

The guests I have on this show emulate this drive in their own special way. You’ll be able to apply new ideas into your own life by learning from them.

We will also have 1on1 episodes with me where we’ll dive into my own experiences with entrepreneurship and leadership.

Every episode is designed to provide you with ideas that you can apply and grow in excellence in all areas of your life, business and career.

Do Good Work,

Raul

INTRO

PODCAST

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: All right.

Welcome back to the podcast today.

I'm talking to Kyle and Ariel.

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Doing good.

Glad to be here.

Doing good, Raul.

Great to be here and looking forward
to the conversation today, especially

because I already know that this
conversation we're about to have is

one that Many people want to have,
but maybe haven't had the opportunity

to have in a very long time.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: Yeah, it's fun.

It's been a long time since I've
had maybe like a hundred episodes

since I've had people on the other

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Oh, nice.

Happy to be those people.

Yeah.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: Here we are.

For everyone listening, though, can
you give us a quick bio background of

what you're working on, who you are and

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Yeah.

You want to take that?

Yeah, absolutely.

My wife and I have both been
entrepreneurs as long as we've been

together, which is about 10 years.

And you know how in a lot of
marriages, you go into what

they call the honeymoon phase?

You know what I'm talking about?

We actually experienced
the opposite of that.

We experienced what we call the anti
honeymoon phase, where since both of

us were entrepreneurs, we had to learn
very early on what it was actually

like to navigate being both a romantic
couple and a couple in business.

We both had separate businesses
and we had to figure out the things

that nobody else was talking about.

We had to figure out
like, how do we actually.

Be romantic partners
instead of just roommates.

That's so happy to be married
while we're growing businesses.

We had to figure out how to be up tasks
and roles and leverage each other's

strengths and just really do the things
that nobody else was talking about.

And this actually created the
hardest time of our entire.

Yeah, specifically we went into now what
we call the anti honeymoon stage, which is

where we, as our schedules filled up, our
intimacy went down and our income quite

honestly flatline because we were so busy
and we weren't able to focus on the things

that actually grew the business because
we were Busy kind of fighting the battles

on the personal side, while also trying
to just sustain the growth we were having

without sacrificing in our relationship,
in our family, or even in our health.

Yeah, and it created a power struggle too.

I'm sure many listeners can relate,
when you are too driven people, or at

least in a relationship with somebody
who is very driven in business, it can

create a power dynamic where we don't
really know the answer to the question.

Where do we fit in and how do we actually
come together and create a unified life

that we both could be excited about?

And since nobody was talking about it,
we just had to create it for ourselves.

I remember being in a guest
room of my, of our house, just

praying out to God for an answer.

And I realized in that moment coming
out of that prayer, That Ariel and I

were brought together for a reason.

We were brought together and married
for a reason, but we were also brought

together in business for a reason.

And we didn't want to sacrifice one
for the other, but we realized in that

moment, okay, we actually need to change
the way that we operate our business.

We needed to change the way we.

Relate to each other.

And we need to change the way that
we schedule our time to actually

prioritize the relationship and the
business in a way that makes both

of them work symbiotically together.

So as a result of that, we created
a completely different path and just

tried some things out over time.

Everything changed for us.

We were flatlined in our business,
but once we actually figured out how

to master being couple preneurs, as
we call it, two entrepreneurs in one

relationship, our income nearly three
Xed and we started going on more date

nights than ever and Raul, when you go
on a date night and if you don't post

about it, it didn't really happen.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: How about

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
it's like cold plunging or like

doing fitness competitions.

You're going to know everybody that
does it because they post about it.

Yeah, that's what we were doing too.

Like we were posting photos and people
kept asking us, how do you guys do it?

How do you guys actually grow businesses
to the point where we were helping

companies scale by over 77 million.

They're like, how in the
world do you do that?

And we just started
sharing like what we did.

And now fast forward, many years later, we
help couples from all over the world grow

and scale businesses without sacrificing
the relationship with each other.

Yep.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709:
that's pretty fascinating.

It was interesting that you mentioned
that you changed the way that you

approach the work versus, cause I know
it's like the interpersonal has to

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Yeah.

Yes.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: relationship
has to change, like that's obvious, but

that the business also had to change.

I'm pretty curious about that.

But before we dive into that,
I have to ask who runs the

home project management system.

Who takes out the trash?

I'm pretty sure that's in one of your

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
It's a good question.

So we actually, it is pretty
equally divided, I would say.

And we really divide tasks
in an interesting way.

We may get into it a little bit more.

To be fair,

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709:
management system in

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
To be fair, no, we don't have a

home project management system.

We do have a home manager
though, that is Neither of us.

So one of the things that we teach are
the couples who are growing businesses

is that if you can pay somebody 15
an hour to take care of that kind of

stuff for you, that frees you up to
do the things that are worth 200, 400,

even the thousand to 2, 000 an hour.

Yep.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: Oh yeah.

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Yes.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: the food, the
taking care and for childcare to have

some clients that are having specific and

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Yep.

Yes,

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: that,

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
absolutely.

100.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: let's dive in.

So what how do you, how
did you, what's the arc of.

Becoming a successful couple and
how do you define the success?

It's not just financial and romantic.

What are the things that you can define?

Right now, life sucks, but
here, this is like, how we're

actually defining what it means.

Is it?

Do you measure it by date nights?

Do you measure it by?

Business growth.

Do you just measure it by like
how you feel throughout the week

or more intimate conversations?

What's the,

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
I love this question.

I'll give my perspective and I
would love to hear your two area.

I love this question because in my
personal opinion, we have at a very

early age accomplished financial
dreams that we thought were impossible.

In our early twenties, we were making
more money together than our parents

combined, and we realized right then that
I don't think success is defined by money.

Yes, to some degree it can be like a
measuring stick, but for me, really,

what I've learned over the years
is that success can be defined by.

Am I doing the thing that ultimately
I feel called to do now called could

also be like a semantically overloaded
word, but essentially I believe that I

was created for a purpose and talking
to God and praying to him is what gives

me the sense of, okay, this is where
I want my life to be in this fullest

expression is who I'm meant to be.

And if I'm living every single day in
congruence with who I'm meant to be

and doing the things that I'm called
to do, that is a successful life.

Yeah, I would add to that.

I think it's also defining what it looks
like specifically as we're talking to like

couplepreneurs here, defining what that
looks like together as a couple, right?

Because that measurement of success
is going to be very different from

one couple as compared to another.

And so that's why one of the first
things that we do when we do work with

couples is like, what is your individual
measurement of success as an individual?

For both people and then where do those
things overlap and how can we actually

create a unified vision together that
you guys can both co create together

in a way that's going to financially
as well as otherwise incentivize you

to actually move in that direction.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: How
do you have those conversations?

Cause like there could be like a,
when you were brewing that, you faced

the situation cause you were in it,
but how do you advise couples or if

it's one person with the business and
someone else has either wanted to join

the business or do part time or do
fractional work in the beginning, which

I'm seeing as a trend right now how do
you have this like hard conversations in

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
For me specifically, the biggest thing

that changed the game for Ariel and
myself, as well as for many of the

clients and couples that we've had
the opportunity to coach, it's really

coming together to create what we
call a unified vision for the home.

And a unified vision does not mean
a uniform vision where you sacrifice

your unique individual desires.

Basically a unified vision is coming
together with your significant

other and answering this question.

How can we both get what we both want?

So specifically.

For the clients that we work with,
the biggest radical shift and allowing

them to create a unified vision is
to go on what we call a vision date.

A vision date is basically a time where
they go to a specific location and they

work through three specific things that
come together to create a unified vision.

Those three things are, what are
our individual and shared values?

So if she values one thing and I value
another, that's great, but what are

the things that we share together?

Like integrity, freedom creating
things that make an impact.

Those are things that we value.

And if we build off of the foundation
of our values, we're creating

something that we find valuable.

That's the first question.

The second question to
answer on the vision date.

What does our ideal lifestyle look like?

Where do we live?

How often do we work?

What does our team look like?

What type of lifestyle do we get to
enjoy with friends in our community?

How much time do we have to ourselves?

How much time do we have with family?

All of that goes into our ideal
lifestyle, which leads to step

three on the vision date, which
is how much money does it actually

take to fund that ideal lifestyle?

We believe that the business should fund
the lifestyle and that your business

should not be dictated by your lifestyle.

So what we do is we calculate a magic
number that dictates how much revenue

a business needs to generate in
order to fund that ideal lifestyle.

And when couples come together on
this, they go from either having no

vision where they're just operating day
to day and they don't see a way out.

Or division, which is like when they
have two different visions, which

creates division in the household to
coming together and creating a unified

vision that aligns them on their path
and actually allows them to create

the life they both find successful.

One thing I'll add to that too,
is especially for entrepreneurial

people, we have the opportunity
to use that entrepreneurial gift

of being resourceful and seeing.

solutions that are maybe outside of
the norm that other people may see.

So when we see two people that maybe
have two individual visions, getting to

bring those visions together, usually
we can find a way that's Hey, if I want

this and what you want feels a little
bit conflicting with that, how can we

both get what we want and how can we
use that entrepreneurial gift of being

resourceful to make sure that we're both
getting what we want versus feeling like

we have to sacrifice in the process.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: Yeah, I agree.

That exercise sounds very powerful and

That sounded a lot like 90 percent of
our marriage prep to be honest with you.

But the last question I
think was pretty interesting.

And plus you evolve as you grow.

So having these conversations a year
and a half in two years in three

years, and it makes a lot of sense
as you, as a person evolve have you

worked with couples where, one's more
entrepreneurial and the other was not?

Like, how do you balance that?

Cause sometimes I feel like
the moment of the excitement

of, like that third question.

Okay, cool.

We want to do this.

We have the shared
values you're executing.

We want to grow to this.

Our family's being taken care of this.

So we have childcare or
whatever taken care of.

And we want to do these
interesting, fun lifestyle things.

Here's how much money it's going to take.

That's exciting.

But then when real life comes, the
punch in the face how do you help

Hey, maybe this might not make
sense for you to work together.

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
So there's different

layers to that question.

There are times where, people will get
on a call to talk with us, for example,

and it's one very strong entrepreneurial
person who has a desire for their

spouse to join them alongside them.

Yes.

And sometimes our answer to making
that work is to not make it work.

And I know that sounds counterintuitive,
but there are times where.

If the individual who their one
spouse is trying to bring into the

entrepreneur conversation doesn't
want to be an entrepreneur, that's

actually a false expectation
that's put on that other person.

And that happens sometimes.

Now, of course, we also work with
clients who, they maybe both partners

share an entrepreneurial at least drive
or at least excitement or aspiration.

Exactly.

In those particular cases, it's a
little bit easier to navigate because

there's definitely still hope on the
other end and what that looks like

is just the one person who's already
in business becoming laser focused on

exactly what they want their business
relationship to look like and their

personal relationship to look like.

And if they can get clear on
both of those things, then

when they're able to bring in.

Their significant other, they're
bringing them in with already strong

respect for who they are as an
individual and could help them rise

and leverage their giftedness within
the business without sacrificing

the relationship in the process.

Yeah.

One pitfall, I guess I would say that
sometimes we do see is where if there is

some relationship tension that already
exists, a lot of the times one person

feels like going into business together
will fix that relationship tension.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: Oh yeah.

It sounds like it's going to

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Bring them together in

some way, shape or form.

But as you just said, oftentimes what
happens is it actually gets exacerbated

because the pressure of business is
sometimes going to be the thing that

cracks the already shaky foundation.

And so what we usually look for when we
do have that scenario where one person is

entrepreneurial, the other person wants
to come into the business, or that's

just the vision that they have is that
relationship already pretty solid and

how can we build upon that in a way that
creates a business that's unshakable.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709:
Yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah.

Shared suffering is usually more
fun with workout groups than it

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
sure.

Yeah.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709:
No, it's interesting.

You mentioned that some
of the things change.

In the business, and I hear where you
alluded to if you have a vision and

now you're more empowered to drive
towards that vision, you're going to

change the way that you show up to it.

But what are some of the practical
habits that successful couple

entrepreneurs have to have or couple
printers have to have in their home life

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Great question.

Yeah.

So I would start with two of the
things that we really like to put in

place with couples that we work with
is two different types of meetings.

So the first meeting is what we
call like a weekly strategy meeting

or a weekly priorities meeting.

That meeting is really designed to.

Determine what are the priorities
for the week, both on the

business side, as well as on the
relationship and the household side.

So that looks like, what is coming
down the pipeline this week?

How are we both involved
in contributing to that?

Are we both needed together?

Are we both needed, or are we
both doing things separately?

And how can we basically predict
what's going to happen so we

can align on that beforehand?

Versus being in reactive mode,
which is what a lot of people do.

So that's like the first type of meeting.

The second type of meeting is
based off of that, which we

call a daily check in meeting.

A daily check in meeting is a really
quick, just like five to 15 minute

checkpoint where it's okay, this
is what we determined was happening

today based on our calendar.

Is this still accurate?

Did anything else come up?

Did any dominoes happen that
we need to adjust slightly?

And that allows them to stay not only
aligned for the week and be more proactive

versus reactive, but it also allows them
to then touch base every single day.

And, Get support in certain areas.

If something's shifted, maybe one
person needs to have the other person

do this new task that popped up.

So it's a really easy way for people
to stay aligned and to make sure that

everything is happening in a seamless way
versus just being reactive to everything.

And Raul, to your question as
well, what Ariel just said is.

Those are great things to do
on a weekly and daily basis.

And I will say, even from a strategic
level, the way that couples approach

building businesses together is
different than just one person.

Because like we talked about the
beginning, you have to first be

aligned on the vision that the business
is creating in the first place.

And we have a fun thing
that we say in business.

With entrepreneur couples, which
is vision goals, strategy roles.

If those things are all aligned in
that exact sequential order, that's

how couples can grow businesses.

Sometimes three times faster than
the average entrepreneur because

they can align on these things.

So if you're aligned on
the vision, that's great.

But then if you go to the second
piece, which is the goals,

What are the actual measurable
milestones to creating that vision?

And then based on those two things that
actually dictates the business strategy.

So there are many different ways that
everybody listening knows you can grow

businesses using a variety of different
models, a variety of different tools,

a variety of different strategies.

But when you look at the shared strengths.

of an entrepreneur couple between the
two of them and the shared benefit

of actually working together with
somebody who has those strengths.

You can actually choose your strategy
based on the strengths of the couple

to get the highest leverage with
the amount of time that you have.

And then based on the strategy,
that's when you divide up roles

by those strengths to actually
make sure that you're getting

the most bang for your buck.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: Yeah.

Plus like it's the ultimate
form of accountability and

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Exactly.

A hundred percent.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: So

what's the weirdest thing you

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
I love

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709:
working with couples?

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
that's the weirdest thing.

Do you have one that comes to mind?

It's such a good question.

I have one brewing.

Do you have one that comes to mind?

Not yet.

So go for it.

Okay.

The weirdest thing is how it translates
to a male and female roles, I think is

the thing that we see especially with
very highly driven entrepreneurial

women, there seems to be a conflict.

And again, this isn't for all women,
of course, but it's for many women

that we've seen where you have these
very amazing powerhouse women who

have two different desires that
sometimes are at odds with each other.

One desire is we want to grow, we
want to build, we want to create.

The other desire is I want my husband
to step up a little bit and I want

him to like how to do his thing.

And I just want to be
taken care of sometimes.

So why I say that's weird is sometimes
when we were coaching these couples

through these dynamics, you have to
like, You have to speak to the part

of them that is that powerhouse driven
woman and there's nothing wrong with

that at all while still finding balance
and nuance and applying those dynamics

in the relationship where they still
want to be taken care of as a woman.

Would you agree with that?

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, that a lot.

Yeah, we see it a lot.

You don't have a weird one or yeah.

I don't know yet.

I love it.

That one's really

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: only

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Um,

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: On.

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
it's gotta be a weirder one.

I would just say in general, one thing
that's really interesting about what

it is that we get to do is getting to
see the differences in personalities

and how those come together in business
as well as in the relationship.

I was just going to say, what's
interesting is there's there's like the

concept of opposites and we see a lot
where there's usually one person who's

very organized, very detail oriented.

And then there's another
person and very analytical.

Then there's another person who's
very visionary, very big picture.

And the way those two things come
together, quite honestly, create like a

superpower of a human, but usually instead
of creating a superpower, it creates a

lot of tension at first because their
approaches to things are very different.

And so getting to see how those
things come together and can

actually like If directed the right
way, create the right outcome and

the thing that they actually want.

But if just directed slightly
the wrong way, it can create

a lot of tension and friction.

Sometimes it's interesting to see.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: Oh yeah.

The negativity side.

Yeah.

do the same thing when we do
like disc or we do analysis.

Like There's a part of the onboard.

It's not, I don't tell them it's a
disc, but it's a secret question.

And it reveals more about who that person
is versus just like who their clients are.

And it's the same analysis, right?

It's okay, this is why you're clashing.

And you're right.

Some people use that to their strength.

Maybe they know that they're, they
have the introspection, but I like both

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Yes,

Exactly.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: all

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Yeah.

Yeah.

I got one more weird one that I
think anybody listening who is

ever coached or mentored other
people could probably relate to.

And we see it with couples.

It's very bizarre that I come
from a consulting background.

So for almost 10 years, I was
a digital marketing consultant.

We've helped to grow and scale
companies by over 77 million.

So what I'm used to doing is.

Yeah.

Coaching high level CEOs and consulting
them, and they typically just do

what we ask them to do, but moving
into a coaching environment over the

last couple years, very different.

And what we've noticed is that
when we're coaching people, there

are usually two types of people.

One type of person is open and
willing to receive that feedback

and humble enough to act on it.

And those are the ones
that see amazing results.

Those are the couples that do 100,
even 2 million months working with me.

But there are also a different
part of the equation.

There's a different type of person
who in the face of accountability

actually runs like, so we have couples
that like will grow really fast.

And then because their identity doesn't
speed up fast enough to get to the result.

They self sabotage and they
actually start running the very

thing that gave them success.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: That's
interesting that the identity

doesn't catch up to the, you have it.

I just see it in retrospect for
clients that are doing what I

recommended 18 months later,
but I never connected the dots.

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Yeah, they're like, I have this crazy idea

that this other guy said, and you're like,
Oh yeah, I told you that 18 months ago.

That happens in marriage.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709:
no they're actually doing it.

I'm like,

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Yes.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

And I guess like it makes
sense for human nature.

Like at first we don't like to
hear how we're doing things wrong.

There's probably an ego battle there.

But still, it's just

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709:
No, but I like how you

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
For sure.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709:
that that's interesting.

That brought up like another, like a side
question on that, but that's separate

from the couple of printers, but when
you're working with individual, cause

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Exactly.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709:
transformation and helping other

people achieve their goals.

How deep do you go to understand
the way that their mind works?

And then from there shaping
their beliefs, behaviors, and

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
I would, I'm sorry.

I would say pretty much.

Pretty deep.

Obviously we are not couples
therapists and we do not play

them on TV is what we like to say.

But with that said, there is a
level of, understanding that we

have, not only cause we've gone
through a lot of these dynamics.

ourselves, but now after having thousands
of conversations with different couples

and coaching hundreds of them, that
we've had the opportunity to see some

of these interesting things at play
that we can almost predict what's

happening better than the people that
are experiencing it can, understand.

So we're very blessed to have
that like third party perspective.

And one of the things that
just as an example of this,

when we see a couple that.

They're really struggling to stay
consistent with some form of habit.

What we found, and you probably know
this too, is, there's this concept called

the pain and pleasure principle, right?

We're always as humans running away
from pain or running towards pleasure.

And specifically how this can show
up in a kind of an interesting

example is many years ago, I had a
in a separate business previously,

I was struggling to be consistent.

And I was struggling to be
consistent with just these simple

things that I knew I needed to do.

And I hired a coach and I remember on
that first coaching session he said to me,

he's okay, Ariel what's the worst thing
that would happen if you were successful?

And I was like, that's
an interesting question.

It's a great question, but anyway what
kind of came out at that moment was if my

business was successful, it would tank my
relationship with Kyle was what I said.

And.

Coach at the time knew that was the
real work because the reason I wasn't

essentially being consistent is I had
unknowingly formed a belief in my mind

that success in business was going
to lead to division in relationships.

And looking back on my history
with that, I had parents that were

entrepreneurial, multiple divorces,
a lot of separation, a lot of fights.

And so for me, I had formed this
belief that business equaled division.

And so I was applying that
same thing to my relationship.

I say this because anytime we see that
there's a couple that's not growing

the business like they want, or there's
some tension in their relationship,

we like to look at where is their pain
being associated and how can we instead

redirect that to something that's actually
pleasurable, that's going to make them

more motivated and actually give them the
consistency in that to see the results.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: That's very
real, especially like even creating

safe problems for yourself that.

your, their inconsistency

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Yes.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: to
addressing the bigger problem.

That's fascinating.

And sometimes I tell that to like their
teammates or clients, like sometimes

you just have to manipulate yourself and
like your subconscious in a healthy way.

I know it's a weird word,

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Yeah.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709:
manipulation, whatever.

I don't care.

You gotta condition yourself to

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Yeah.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: Cause
that's the subconscious side.

That's fascinating.

This has been a really fun conversation.

Can't believe it's been like
30 minutes already, but.

Let's dive into where
can people go to one?

Thank you for being on and to
learn more about what you're up to.

Have you written a book?

Do you write it?

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Yeah, absolutely.

So the first place would be our Instagram.

So our Instagram handle
is at couplepreneurs.

And actually we have something
that I think a lot of couples have

gotten a lot of benefit out of.

It's a quarterly goal planning
template that couples can use

together to plan goals for the
business, but also personally.

And so if you're interested in that,
you could just DM us on Instagram,

the word template, and we'll make
sure that you get access to that.

The second place is we
have a Facebook page.

We were in a position where we never saw
a lot of other entrepreneurial couples,

so we created a community of them.

So it's called successful
couples in business.

So that's our Facebook community.

And then lastly, we do have a podcast.

Our podcast is called The Couple
Preneur Show, and you can find it

on Apple podcasts or on Spotify.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: That's awesome.

I'll put all those links in the
show notes before you leave any

fun, latest fun, crazy date nights.

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
I have one.

One time I surprised Kyle with
taking him to a rage room.

. That was a good time.

That was, have you ever done that?

Raul?

So a rage room.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: I
have not been surprised to be

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Ah, gotcha.

So a rage room is for anybody who doesn't
know it's a room that you get a bunch

of stuff that you get to smash and throw
things against the wall and basically

just let out a bunch of anger, which
we don't really have a lot of anger.

Yeah.

I was like, did you think
I was angry or something?

I guess I needed to get some rage
out, but it just looked like a good

time and really unique and it was fun.

I will say throwing.

Pottery against the wall was very like,
it was cathartic, but at first I was so

conditioned to not do it, that it took a
little bit to get over that, but it ended

up being a really good time for sure.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: Yeah.

I call

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Yes.

I love it.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: gym.

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Your squat rack is your rage room.

I get it.

raul-_1_10-31-2024_110709: that's awesome.

We all need that.

No, thank you for being, I'll
put those things in the show

kyle---ariel-tresch_1_10-31-2024_140708:
Awesome.

Thank you, Raul.