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From causal and seasoned fans to fresh new fans to the game, Casual FC is your Angel City FC podcast previewing all upcoming matches, highlighting what to look for as the casual football fan.
Mario 1: Welcome to Casual
FC, an Angel City preview pod.
Today, an Angel City interview pod.
I'm your host, Mario Salazar, with my
amazing co host, Angela Morales, and our
very special guest, someone that we've
had On the kind of wishboard, who can we
get to record, shoot your shot, let's see
if they're gonna say yes, and she did.
One of the amazing personalities calling
Angel City game days on iHeartRadio
and serving all the corner kicks by
Cedar Sinai we can muster, Tracey M.
Bailey.
We
don't have a soundboard, so we're
not, like, we do our own, brr, brr,
Ang: we're we're our own, soundboard.
Tracey: Well, it is such
a pleasure to be here.
It's a pleasure to be on your list
of people that you want on your pod.
I'm a fan of your pod and
Mario 1: Oh, thank you.
Tracey: be with you guys here today.
Yeah.
Ang: We talked a little bit before we
started recording about the difference
between like color commentary for the
folks on TV and the play by play and
like picture painting that has to be
done in a radio broadcast and how.
if you grew up in L.
A., you know Vin Scully's voice, you
could be walking by a store and be
like, oh, what clip are they showing?
it's such a trigger, or Chick Hearn and
Steel Lance, there's big people that
stick in our brains with that, and it's
just, it's so exciting to have one of
those people for, the new generation of
Tracey: really cool that you put me in the
same, sentence with them, but yeah, no,
Isaac Lowenkron, ILO, as
Tracey: we like to call him, he does,
he's an unbelievable guy to work with.
He does such an amazing job of
that, just painting the picture and
making you feel like you're there.
He puts, a lot of energy
into it, a lot of excitement.
He definitely, it does really well
with painting the picture and it's.
So much fun to, to work alongside of him.
Ang: Yeah, you two, you
have a special partnership.
Mario 1: yeah, I joke around with my
wife and I, cause we, I, Self diagnosed,
I have, aphantasia, which means, I
can't really picture things in my head,
you tell me to picture an apple, I'm
like, my mind's blank, but I know what
an apple looks like, but whenever I
do listen to the broadcasts, it's like
the one kind of time, I'm still not
picturing anything in my head, but I
can at least follow what's going on,
and I'm like, okay, I, Oh, they're over
here, they're on this side of the field,
now they're on that side of the pitch.
All of that is just okay,
I feel like I'm there.
They're doing such a great job and
I'm like, yes, this is what I need.
That's why I, that's why
I sync up the screen.
All the
Tracey: credit goes to Isaac.
Cause he can say a million words a
mile a minute and he's just like going
and at a hundred miles an hour, and
then, there'll be a little break and
then I'll put my two cents in, but he,
again, he's does such an amazing job.
And then it took me a little
time to adjust to him.
It's a little bit different, as you
said, Angela, just understanding,
the moments when I can come in and,
give my little two cents or whatever
about what's going on with the game
and then let Isaac do his thing again.
But, it really has been such a joy
and so much fun to, to be along
with this Angel City ride and
a part of the ride in that way.
Ang: So if we step out of the broadcast
booth and focus back in on just you,
tell us about yourself, your family.
are you, I know your background.
I don't know if other people
who are listening do, but did
did you grow up playing sports?
Does your family, is it like, I
come from a sports family, both
playing and watching and all of that.
Do you as well?
Tracey: I do.
I definitely do.
it's interesting.
I was born in Columbus, Ohio
at the Ohio State University.
So, you know, going to a, or growing up
in a smaller town, it was all Ohio State
Buckeyes for my family and my parents.
And then we moved to California.
I was, Summer before fourth grade.
And I actually started playing
soccer, before we moved or whatever.
And the one stipulation I had for
moving was that I would be able to
play soccer year round on a team.
And my parents said, Oh, sure.
No problem.
We'll, it's California.
Ang: yeah, we don't do
that severe weather notice.
Tracey: no.
If you were asking me when I was moving
if it was going to be okay with me,
because I got to play soccer year
round, the answer is yes, let's go.
When are we moving?
but yeah, I have two sisters.
I'm the middle child.
I have an older sister
that was a grade above me.
And, in school and she was nine, almost
two years older than me, 19 months apart.
And then I have a younger sister
that's four years younger than me,
but we all grew up playing sports.
like I said, my parents
were big sports fans.
My mom was actually a
cheerleader in high school.
My dad played baseball,
football, in high school.
And then he played, I think one
year in, in college and yeah,
they, we just grew up like.
Watching sports, whatever sport
was on during that, season of the
year and, whether it was hockey, L.
A.
Kings, we watched the Kings, we
watched the Lakers, not a lot
of soccer was on in our house
Ang: There wasn't a lot.
Tracey: on.
Yeah, not really, yeah, so not really
baseball much, but, growing up I played.
My sister's played every sport.
We were, my older sister and I
were, on a lot of teams together.
So my parents put a lot of miles on
the minivan, driving to tournaments,
practices, all of that, but,
yeah, definitely a sports family.
And then, we all ended up
playing a sport in college too.
So it's.
It's continued on past high school
and I would say sports is still a
big part of our lives to this day.
Ang: That's fantastic.
What sports did your sisters play?
I'm curious if it's just all soccer or
if you were all dotted other places.
Tracey: yeah, we all played soccer,
at one point or another, but my
older sister ended up playing
volleyball at Fresno State.
And then my younger sister ended
up playing basketball at San
Ang: Oh, wow.
Tracey: yeah, it just all You
Ang: You covered all the bases.
Tracey: a different sport.
Ang: That's awesome.
Yeah,
Tracey: it was a lot of fun
Ang: I love, I love just
year round sports in general.
And same thing in that, every season
you would walk into the house,
the TV would turn, get turned on.
It was rarely a show.
It was usually a game.
that's still me.
That's my fiance Eva.
We're all like, we went
out to lunch the other day.
She's sorry, I have the Yankee game on.
I'm like, that's okay.
I don't care.
It's so normal.
Tracey: Yup.
And that would be normal for me.
What's interesting is my husband
actually comes from a really
big sports family as well.
And, he and his brother played sports
through college and professionally
and they, their household though,
they didn't, He watches many sports.
they watch sports, but
they watch more TV shows.
And so his, yeah, he gravitates
towards watching TV shows.
For me, I'm like, this is not normal.
Like with the TVs on,
we're watching a sport.
Otherwise the TV's off, So it's
definitely different, but it's funny.
I always tease him about that.
Mario 1: it's slightly
changing in my household.
It's, still very much my wife
and I are TV movie watchers.
but we're slowly like, especially
because of the pandemic, I was putting
on any kind of sports that we could, or
replays with sports or things like that.
And specifically like women's
sports for my, daughter.
And so we were getting really
into, the women's soccer
leagues and things like that.
And then, I started
Mario-Redo: Everyone always asks me
if I've put my daughter into soccer
yet, and me being forgetful, I
always forget when the signups are,
so we're never signed up in time.
But she does love swimming.
Funny enough, she loves
watching swim meets on TV.
Tracey: Oh that's awesome.
Oh, that's amazing.
That's
amazing.
Ang: this is the worst pun I've maybe
ever made in my life, but I think
she's found her lane like very early.
Like she, she is a fish.
He'll send me pictures and she's
got a new medal in her class and
like she's leveled up and Maddie's
just, she's so cute.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's a little fish of a kid.
Tracey: Hey, some kids find it early.
Some kids are still searching.
So that's awesome that she found
something that she really enjoys
and it's healthy and All of that.
Ang: It's awesome.
Tracey: I know it's
early mornings for you.
Mario-Redo: Definitely.
one of the questions I had for
you was when exactly was it that
you knew soccer was your thing?
you said
you said you wanted to play like
when you moved out to California,
like that was part of the deal of
you guys moving out, but when was
it that you said, okay, I'm going to
college and I'm playing soccer too?
Tracey: I think the decision to
play in college or the thought of
playing in college came, I would
say, late for this generation now.
but, I started playing when I was four
and a half, so I do remember playing.
I vividly remember playing
and feeling man, I love this.
I am a competitor.
I loved to compete from the first
whistle, the first throw of the ball.
from that first team
experience, I just loved it.
And I, we were playing on a
team that had boys and girls.
And my mom now, as I got older,
would tell me stories of how I
used to always make the boys cry.
And I don't remember anything.
I just remember.
I need this ball to go on
the goal so my team can
Ang: We would have been best friends.
Tracey: yeah, like that's for me.
I'm like, this is what I can
win at this and I can help the
team and I can get the ball.
Yes.
Sign me up every year for this.
So I knew at an early
age that I love soccer.
I love to compete.
I think my soccer, journey
developed a little bit later,
Again, especially compared to how
it is nowadays with kids like.
saying they want to play, division
one, whatever, when they're,
Ang: Yeah.
committing to
Tracey: yeah, oh yeah.
Committing to college and middle school.
I'm like, how do you even know
if you can handle the academic
load that school is demanding?
But,
anyway, yeah, no, I, I actually played a
lot of sports growing up and basketball
and soccer were my two favorites.
I talked about how you could play
year round, uh, soccer in California.
Well, unfortunately in California
too, once you get to high school,
those two sports conflict because
they, they're in the same season.
I didn't play high school soccer for
my first few years of high school.
I played, high school basketball,
played club soccer, and I also played
softball, high school softball.
and a year of club softball and then
I also played high school volleyball.
So I was
Ang: A four star athlete.
Okay.
Tracey: Yeah, like every
sport, every season.
Sign me up, I love it.
My friends, like I loved Being a part of
a team and a lot of my friends played,
either one or two sports as well.
I never got burnt out, because
I was not playing, that
Ang: You aren't like specializing
from such a young age.
You got to bounce around.
Yep.
Tracey: yes.
I, I started getting, interest
or recruiting letters or
whatever you want to call it.
I would say, I want to say maybe freshman
year, sophomore year, I'm not sure.
And then.
it was coming in more for basketball
and soccer and then more soccer
than basketball at some point and,
I think, maybe my mom and dad had a
conversation with me, is there one
that you want to play in college?
If you want to play in college,
it was never like a big deal.
Pressure thing that
they put on me as well.
It was like I was leading the path
or the direction that I wanted to go.
I knew I had to go to college.
That wasn't a question, but I wasn't,
sure about, or we never really
talked about playing in college.
And then, I think.
Probably junior year is when I made
the switch to, a more competitive club
soccer team and understood that, like
this is the move I needed to make to
get seen by bigger programs or whatever.
and then once the interest started
coming in from schools that
I was interested in going to,
Ang: Yeah.
That's definitely a difference
people don't talk about.
The interest from schools is cool.
And then you realize these aren't
necessarily the schools I want to go to.
But then the second
Tracey: like, where is this?
Ang: I'm, is this school real?
I don't know what this
is.
And it's like some rural D3 school,
which no offense to any of those
schools, they're, they are made
for a specific type of person.
But like, when I got recruited to Long
Beach State, that's where I wanted to go.
And I was just like, Oh,
This is like dream come true.
Perfect.
Great.
This is you.
Tracey: Wait, I need to hear your
Ang: Oh, I was a track
athlete.
Tracey: Oh, amazing.
I didn't know
Ang: yeah, I threw a shot put in
discus at like the community college
level, so I went to El Camino, and
then I was recruited to Long Beach,
and I just found out, two weeks ago,
I'm still in the record books at El
Camino, and I was like, oh, okay.
Tracey: Angela.
That's awesome.
Ang: toot my own horn, but I
was very happy to find that out.
it's the competition of, I can't
go back, I don't have any more
years of eligibility, but I'm like,
But those records still stand and
they're 10, almost 15 years old now.
So yeah, I'm proud of myself for those.
Tracey: You should be.
Cause I'm sure all my
records are long gone.
Ang: Okay.
I'm going to skip like down our questions
because you started talking about college.
You take the windy road
of landing on soccer.
You end up committing to UCLA.
Can I Like, can I have the honor
of reading off this accolade bio?
Tracey: sure.
Ang: This is fantastic.
at UCLA, you were named the 2000 Pac 10
Player of the Year, RIP the Pac 10, Pac
12, Pac 8, whichever version, RIP our
conference, but, So you were Player of
the Year, you were a member of the Bruin
team that finished second at the 2000 NCAA
College Cup, you were a three time first
team All Pac 10 pick, second team for
the NSCAA and Soccer Buzz All American,
you're a first team pick for the NSCA All
Far West region, a Honda Award finalist.
You were an Iron Woman in 99 and 2000.
So When we talk about the Iron Women
on Angel City and like to play every
minute of a game, regardless of sport,
is so hard, but then soccer is so much.
It's so many more minutes
Tracey: I didn't even know that.
I didn't even know I was an iron play.
I didn't know that is,
it is a lot of running.
Ang: definitely.
You are also an Umbro Select All
Star Classic participant and you
finished your career ranked second
all time at UCLA and goals scored with
33 goals and points overall at 81.
Dang, girl!
Tracey: thank you.
Ang: that's big time.
Like people, I feel like there's a better
understanding now of everything that goes
into collegiate athletics and what needs
to happen and all the commitments you have
outside of just like practice and games.
they don't realize you have specific
weight room time and study hall
and like commitments to supporting
other teams and that's it.
community events, there's so much to
juggle, and then to accomplish all
of that at one of the best schools
in the country, honestly, when it
comes to sports, in many different
fields of sports, that's fantastic.
Tracey: thank you.
Yeah.
UCLA, I still say, were some of the
best years of my life, to this day.
It was an amazing experience,
an amazing, special experience.
University.
And I actually went to Pepperdine and
committed to Pepperdine my first year.
I was away for a year and, I didn't, I
guess when you're going on that journey
of figuring out what school you want
to go to, you don't realize some of
the things that you want, until you're
there and you're like, oh, I didn't
think that, it was going to be this way,
or, oh, I pictured my, being this way.
So when I got to Pepperdine, it was
just, it was different than what I
wanted from, for me in my experience.
I think it also gave me even more
appreciation for UCLA when I got
there and when I transferred in, as
a sophomore, just being a part of
a university that's known so well.
So highly for athletics and academics
and being in an environment where
you're in a classroom amongst hundreds
of students instead of a smaller
classroom with, a handful of students.
And that's the learning environment that
I wanted and what worked well for me.
and in terms of like resources
and have, just having, Access to a
lot of things that the university
was able to provide was amazing.
so it was an incredible experience.
I am really proud to have
been at UCLA and been a Bruin.
And yeah, like I said, it were,
they were, those were some of the
best years of my life for sure.
Ang: Yeah, I definitely have a
similar, you got this fond look of
nostalgia as you were talking about
it, like, you were just, like, going
through, like, oh yeah, and then that.
Anytime I talk about my time at
Long Beach or even at the community
college level, it's the same.
I've never had teams like that.
I've never been pushed that way.
And it was everything
I could have asked for.
Tracey: Yep.
And I think a lot has to do with luck
too.
I don't think a lot of people talk about
that, but I was really lucky to have
the coaches that I had amazing coaches
growing up, even from the club level
through college, and teammates too.
I had an incredible team, just
really good group of girls that
pushed each other and our coaches
pushed us and that's what I wanted.
I, I loved it.
I loved it.
Ang: Yeah, that's fantastic.
What's this one's like the hardest
question we ask anyone, what's
your favorite memory of yourself?
what's your favorite sports memory?
Playing or like being in a tournament
or what have you, is there one
thing that really sticks out?
Yeah.
Tracey: sports actual playing
memories, I don't remember.
I just don't.
obviously being in the NCAA finals
was a big, thing for us and our
team and a nice, fond memory.
Unfortunately, we didn't win that game.
So it's not probably my favorite memory.
But, I think just that my senior year,
I feel like thinking back to my time,
playing as an athlete, going through all
of the memories, I feel like my senior
year had an imprint on me as a person.
we, our coach, That year was Jillian
Ellis, who was the women's national
team coach, for a number of years.
And she just was the most amazing
coach and brought a lot out of her
play, demanded a lot from her players
and brought a lot out of her players.
And, the group of girls that were on
that team, we were all very close.
We had great chemistry.
We all would do anything on
the field for each other.
and then, yeah, just Pushing the program
and taking it to another level, I think,
and being a part of that was awesome.
Ang: I was going to say like it's a
one thing when you have a good group
of players and everybody's on the
same page and there's this environment
that happens that doesn't like.
You can have four or five
great players, and if everyone
else is just like, fine, okay.
You don't get the same level of success.
you could have seven out of ten
ranking everybody on the team.
everybody's just above average.
Not to say that's anything, but if
everyone is there and everybody is
working together, you get further.
because everyone is in this cohesive
mindset of like teamwork and like you said
doing anything you can for each other and
like showing up in every way because a lot
of that too so much happens off the field
in the locker room while you're studying
like the tears the life conversations
on the bus all of that there's something
so special about a team that you can't
replicate really anywhere I think
Tracey: I agree.
And I feel like we had a good balance
of, incoming players that were really
good that I think we might've had
the number one recruiting class.
So as freshmen, that's that
season and just having.
Those players come in and mix with
and mesh with the players that were
already there and the upperclassmen.
it was a perfect mix.
We were all, we had each other's back.
It was, like we were
lifting up the younger ones.
The older ones were showing
the younger ones, the ropes.
And I also credit, I give a lot of
credit to Jill Ellis and her staff
just because I think that from the top.
Like that environment that you create,
and the buy in also has to come from
the players so that you get that from
having a good coach that gives you a
clear plan of, what the expectations
are, has good communication,
Ang: That is so
Tracey: there were some players, oh my
gosh, there were some players that had
been playing a lot that, these freshmen
are coming in and taking their spots
and that could shake things up a lot
because, The dynamics of this person
has been here for three years and now
they're not playing, and this freshman's
coming in and they're thinking they're
all that or whatever, and it's, it, I
don't think coaches get enough credit
for being able to manage all of that
and all of those dynamics that go in,
and Jill did an exceptional job of just.
Also, understanding our potential
and the level that we could get to
and having us achieve things that we
maybe didn't even think were possible.
yeah,
Ang: That's fantastic.
Now, post soccer world, you've
grown up, you've mentioned
your husband and your kids.
Are your kids playing sports?
Are you guys managing three
different practices at the same time?
Like, how are you managing,
what's the intensity level as a
sports parent?
Tracey: whew.
It is intense over in
the Bailey household.
so like I said, my husband grew up
playing sports in multiple sports, and
then he ended up playing basketball
in college at UCLA as well, and then
played basketball professionally.
we're, these Former
professional athletes together.
And then now we have kids and we're like,
Oh, of course you're going to play sports.
but it was interesting as, as intense
as you could envision things getting,
it was always, oh no, our kids are
going to try sports and they're
going to, gravitate towards whatever
they want to gravitate towards.
And if it's not sports, that's fine too,
but you're going to do something active.
You're going to be active, be healthy.
but our, so we have a ninth grader
who's our daughter, our only daughter.
We have three kids.
Our ninth grader, she
gravitated towards volleyball.
She loves volleyball.
She's playing also beach volleyball.
and then we have, Let's see, a
seventh grader, son, who plays every
sport, depending on the season.
He says his first love is basketball,
but we're, constantly going from
the track to the field to the gym.
and then our youngest is, he says, he
loves soccer and he wants nothing else
with anything else other than soccer.
he's the youngest.
all in for soccer.
We're trying to convince him to, to still
play other things and try other things.
Cause he's only a third
Ang: Oh yeah, he's got plenty of time.
My mom always told me growing up, I want
you, in, at, the Torrance Rec Center, it
was like, pick three classes, you don't
have to like them, you can get there day
one and be like, I don't know, this is
not for me, but you have to finish it.
you, if you made the choice,
you have to finish it.
Half the time I was like, this is
the best thing I've ever done, by
the end of it, there was only a few
times where I was like, mom, no.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855: no,
Tracey: yes, girl.
Same thing for me, Angela.
Like I literally tried everything
from tennis to horseback
riding, which I hated, to,
you name it, I tried it.
And I think that's great.
I think that's,
Ang: It makes you like understand
what you like as a person too,
not just oh, I play soccer.
This is who I am.
It's, oh, but I also like
these other 15 things.
I like art.
I like drama.
I like this, and you get to become like,
I guess more well rounded as a kid.
And that then translates into real life.
Tracey: I 100 percent agree.
And I think that's what's glaring
about, our other two are still younger,
but our 9th grader, especially,
it's like she loves volleyball,
but she also loves a lot too.
And she's, she's, she's a She loves
Ang: I love
Tracey: She is a student.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
I'm like, she puts more pressure on
herself for, her studies than we do.
I'm like, you're doing great, honey.
And she's but I didn't
get an A plus or whatever.
but yeah, no, I think especially
again with this generation of.
Young kids and these kids specializing in
sports and having it go nonstop, it, you
see a lot of burnout and I've already seen
it from kids and, you see it coming too.
You see it coming with the private
lessons and the extra this, extra that,
and it's all specific on one sport.
I think the more we can understand that.
let the kids lead a little bit, too.
It's not, the parents, definitely
need to sign them up physically,
but, Let the kid just listen to
your kid and what they are telling
Ang: there was definitely a time
for me in high school, because I
also so I was I played basketball
until my ankle said, that's funny,
you think that I can stay attached?
And then I transitioned,
yeah, I had reconstructive
ankle surgery at 30, because
it was still, yeah, and now
I'm like, I can run, I can
walk, I can do all the things.
Tracey: play basketball
Ang: never.
jumping still scares me.
But, track and field was a love
I didn't know I, could have.
But pre the track and field love,
I actually, and I don't know if
I've said this, Mario, I don't
know if you know this, but I was a
competitive bowler from the time I
was five until I was 19, 20 years old.
And, yeah, and, same thing.
Traveled the country, did a whole
bunch of stuff, had scholarship
offers, and I was so done.
I was like, no thanks.
And for the
Tracey: Wow.
Ang: in, from middle school through
high school, and this is while playing
other sports too, but I just loved it.
And I realized I'm bored with this.
And I told my mom, I don't want
to bowl this winter session.
She's like, why not?
And I was like, I hate it, but
I don't hate it, but I hate it.
And I didn't know how to articulate.
I was burnt out.
I didn't want to keep doing the
same thing with the same people.
It wasn't new anymore and I needed
it to be, and everybody freaked out
because I was a phenom in that sense.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855: the
Ang: Yeah, I was like, Oh,
I know how to beat you.
this isn't a competition
anymore, because I know the
mind games exactly.
And so I would take a little short
session off, and then I would come back
and people are like, Did you practice?
And I'm like, No, I didn't touch my stuff.
I would just walk away for six weeks, and
then come back and just shoot lights out.
And everybody's What are you doing?
what's this?
And I'm like, I just needed a break.
I didn't, I wanted to play basketball,
or I wanted to just hang out with my
friends on a Saturday, I needed the
break from that and I didn't realize
that's what it was until like 10 years
ago even, but knowing, like having my
mom honor that instead of just being
like, no, you have to keep doing this
was so special because it gave me the
time away to really figure out, is this
something I want to continue doing?
And I think, like you said, the
burnout we're seeing in athletes so
young, like you need a break mentally.
As much as I love to compete, as much
as I loved playing the little mind games
with other players and whoever I'm bowling
against, playing basketball or, throwing
against, I would figure out all the little
ticks and little things that I could do
to weasel my way in to mess with them.
And I'm just like sitting
pretty, whatever, it's fine.
Like they're just freaking out
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855:
were just too
Tracey: That's amazing.
That's pretty
Ang: I'm so grateful that I had the
parental, guidance of no, you can rest.
You can take a break and come
back to this because you're going
to end up being better because
you actually want to be there.
And I just want to tell everybody that
just take six weeks and go sit down.
Tracey: Yeah.
It's just a change of scenery.
Like for me, like I said, I
was going from team to team.
Because it was changing over to
different sports and it was a new
scenery, new change of scenery.
It was using different muscles.
It was a new challenge.
Like you said, nothing ever got
boring or I never was bored of
anything and could have gone
farther in soccer if I specified,
was sports specific in one sport.
Absolutely.
Probably.
But, I could have also burnt out by the
time I hit 10th grade, Yeah, I agree.
It's definitely going to be interesting
to see the shift in all of that, because
I feel like at some point it's going to
Ang: Yeah.
I hope so.
And I hope it's sooner rather than
later because we're seeing I think the
like influx of injuries across sports.
there's baseball pitchers that
are having Tommy John their first
season and like in high school
and I'm like, don't throw so hard.
there's preventative measures we can take.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855: Yeah,
my, my nephew's, yeah, my nephew is what,
11, 12 years old, and he had to take a
whole season off because he injured his
Ang: Oh,
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855:
elbow and I'm like, and it was
luckily not bad enough for like
surgery, but he took off a full year
and that was, for this kid who like
very early on, loves baseball, lived
and breathed baseball, he still does.
but having to, it's one of those
things where, they become so
competitive, and then he gets told,
you need to stop before you mess
something up, for real or permanently.
And then he was just, distraught,
devastated for so long that all he
could do was egg on his sister playing,
but, he turned his attention to that.
But now that he's back
playing, he's, he's.
He's trying to, he's trying to play
catch up though, that's the problem,
it's like, at least, I don't know,
maybe it's different depending on the
sport, but like With the kids that he's
playing baseball with, and the club
teams that they're playing with, and the
travel team, and the this and the
that, and the, the kids are just
constantly playing, so they are getting
better, and then now he's falling
behind a little, but we're like, look,
still got your elbow.
that's the most important thing
Tracey: can always catch up
too.
Healthy.
Ang: The easier it is for you to stay
healthy, the longer your career will be,
and the more ability you'll have to catch
up, because every single one of those
other players We'll get knocked down a
pig at some point, which is unfortunate.
Tracey: it is unfortunate.
Ang: Yeah, injuries are a
wild conversation right now.
Tracey: Yeah, we could talk about
that for a whole episode on a podcast.
Whoo.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855: Yeah.
if you.
need a little trauma counseling about
injuries and stuff, Angela's got you
because she's got a whole list of them.
Tracey: oh no.
Ang: Yeah, all sorts of injuries.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855:
so like moving on into like your
actual broadcasting, when did you
first, when did you first
get into broadcasting?
Like after you were done playing, when
did you say I'm gonna give this a shot.
Tracey: I would have never said that.
knowing me and my personality,
I'm definitely an introvert.
and I had a, sports information
director named Danny Harrington at
UCLA and also Mike Sonheimer, who
was, the former associate athletic
director at UCLA, he just threw it.
Mike Sondheimer threw it out to me and
said, Hey, I think you'd be great at this.
You're very articulate.
what do you say?
you do some of the game.
So after playing at U-C-L-A-I, the
professional league that was started in
the, in America called the WSA, started.
So I went and played professionally,
but I wasn't finished.
With my studies, so I had to
come back and finish my degree
and do my last quarter at UCLA.
So that was the fall quarter when.
Soccer season is collegiately, so he
said, what do you think about coming to
do some of our games at UCLA on radio?
I said, really?
You think I'd be good?
I don't know.
talking to people or talking to something.
I don't know.
but I tried it.
I said yes.
I've always had a I have a hard time
saying no to things, and especially
things that are uncomfortable.
I always think that it's, going to make
me grow in some way, so why not try it?
And so I tried it, and then, it's funny
because We would train, in the off season.
So the fall was our off season
for professionally for pro soccer.
And so they had, I want to say it
was like the women's gold cup for
the United States national team.
And that was like my first TV gig.
So I, all I
Ang: no big
Tracey: all I had, No, no big deal.
So I just, I did a couple of radio
games for UCLA soccer and then Danny
Harrington, who was the S, our former
SID, for women's soccer at UCLA, he was
like, Hey, I got, this gig to do, the U.
S.
Women's National Team.
It's the Gold Cup.
Fox is looking for somebody.
I was like, Oh, okay, cool.
He's yeah, you want to do it?
I was like, in my head, no, I
definitely do not want to do this,
but my mouth said, okay, sure.
So I had to go into the, the Fox
studios and they did a test run in at
one of the studio, banks or whatever.
And they're like, okay, are
you available this date?
I said, yes, I am.
And went in and called the game.
So that's how it all started.
And of course, back then,
there were soccer games on
TV, very few and far between.
Every now and then I would get calls
to do games and then, I would say
it started to get ramped up a little
bit when the Pac 12 network started.
And so I was one of the first, or
that first year that they launched,
I was a soccer analyst for them.
And I think I did a couple
of basketball games as well.
so that's really, how it started.
Said yes to something that I wanted
to scream no at and tried it.
And here I am now just, getting
to, to be a part of Angel City.
And it's been a crazy journey for sure.
Ang: That's awesome.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855:
whatever didn't knock you
off made you stronger.
that's
Tracey: Yes, exactly.
Ang: yeah, definitely.
Man, that's so cool.
Yeah.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855: Hey,
so there's this thing on Fox Sports,
do you want to just give it a shot?
And then it was just like, yeah, sure.
Tracey: And I think back to
like, when I went into tests and.
I was confident.
I felt if they either want me to
do it or they want somebody else,
it's not like I, if I get it, great.
If I don't, that's fine too.
but I remember having that, weird voice
in my head because a lot of the players
that were playing on the national
team at the time, I was either playing
with or against in the pro league.
So I was like, this is
going to be really weird.
I have to like.
Analyze how they're playing and what
they're doing on the field, what
I'm going to see them in a couple of
months or, it was just, for me, it was
like, I don't want to, I don't know.
that would, I remember,
I vividly remember, don't
say anything crazy, Tracey.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855:
You don't want them coming back at you,
Tracey: Yeah, no, don't want to, exactly.
Ang: like that experience is now
like what so many women's sports
podcasters and YouTube people
and TikTokers are now feeling of
don't talk crap about the players.
You can critique them, but do
it in a way that's constructive.
Because I feel like so many people
forget, they'll hear this, and,
and that's one thing, we talked
about when we were launching this.
I told them, I was like, I don't
want to be those people that
are just, nagging on the team.
I'm a homer.
I love my teams.
I'm a ride or die.
There's always stuff to improve
on because that's the whole point.
Tracey: Yeah.
And I, if you're an athlete, like there's,
I feel like there's all, even in the
most horrific game or performance that
a team can put out, there's always a
positive to take from something, So
yeah, I always try to like, okay.
that's what coaches have to do too.
You can't always be so negative.
You got to find little tidbits
or little, silver linings in
situations that teams go through.
Yeah, I agree.
I like positivity.
Let's
Ang: there
Tracey: it positive.
Ang: it changes the narrative
so quickly if you're just
harping on a team or a player or
something.
And it changes that whole environment
and people will be like, Oh, I don't
like it when they call the game
or Oh, this person is doing that.
Oh, nevermind.
I'm not gonna listen because It's the
way I feel about very specific baseball
commentators who shall remain nameless
because they are a very big name in
sports, but when you are so focused
on, the degradation of a team's, story
of history or whatever, just because
you have to take yourself out of it
enough to just say Oh, yeah, these
players are the best in the world.
Because that's they were
chosen to be they've worked
their way there, all of that.
And it's such a talent to be able to
talk so constructively about teams, and
tell the stories of their backgrounds and
paint the picture of who these people are.
in the little snippets between plays.
And I feel like if you're not,
you are very good at this.
if you're not looking for the good
stuff, what do you, what's the point?
Tracey: Yeah.
And I think that the bottom line, too,
is like, there's a human element to this.
are
Ang: are
people.
Tracey: And yeah, if you reflect a
little bit on yourself, have you had
every single day go according to plan?
No.
No, you're, you make mistakes, you've
had bad days, so it's, it is no
different for those players on the
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855:
Exactly.
and they're tired too, they're
performing at a peak level that
like, people have bad days.
Tracey: there's so
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855:
I think my favorite explanation, I
was watching something on YouTube
where the guy was like, it was
basically this thing of like how
to explain like European soccer to
Americans or something, but, the.
The argument about flopping and
his counterargument was like, I
was like, dude, that's brilliant.
It's a brilliant way to say it.
He's okay, the pitch is about the
size of a football field, right?
run around a football field 10 times,
and then sprint down the middle and
then have your friend push you over.
Are you going to get back up right away?
like,
Tracey: you just feel like falling.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855:
like sometimes you'll take
that second once you fell to be
like, all right, let me breathe.
Tracey: I'm okay with flopping.
I don't mind it.
Yeah, I get it.
The sprinting, it gets tiring.
And then if you get your balance
thrown off a little bit, you got
to take a rest at some point,
Ang: Sometimes you just have to lean
into the fall and yeah, absolutely.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855: with
that, along those lines, how do you think
your, or, how is your experience being a
professional player, playing at all these
different levels, when you're calling the
games, I'm pretty, I'm sure you're seeing
more than the average viewer, right?
even when I'm watching it on
TV, I'm, I've heard you call
things out or point things out.
That were like, I was just
like flew over my head.
I was like, Oh, I didn't
know she was doing that.
so how do you think or how
influential has all of that been
when you've been making your calls?
Tracey: Yeah, I absolutely
think that it helps for sure.
I don't know, I just see it how I see it.
I think that it, I like to, educate people
maybe that don't see things a certain way
or, and I feel like, especially when I
was calling collegiate games, I think a
lot of the audiences That watch, watches
those games or that watch those games
were, probably people that have only seen
a lot of soccer, maybe at the youth level.
I tried to relate it to oh, if it's a.
Especially a forward because that,
that, that was the position that I
played, I think I could see them, this
player going to the next level if they
just improve on this, but, like just
pointing out different things that
as they progress as, and get a little
older as their, careers progress, how
they can improve upon little things.
yes, I definitely think that having
the perspective of a former player
at different levels, just in general.
I get what a lot of these players are
going through on some level, just to
give their backstory as well, I think
helps, but yeah, I definitely feel like,
I don't know, I see it how I see it, so I
can't speak to my knowledge level, but I
definitely want to share anything that I
see with whoever's listening or watching.
Ang: I feel like whenever I'm explaining,
I played, I grew up in a basketball
family, and so I played for a long
time, and my fiance's family watches
basketball, but I'll get a text
message like, what does this mean?
Why did this happen?
Can you rewatch this part?
And then I realize I don't know
how to explain things to people
who don't speak the same language,
like the same sports language.
And that is one of the biggest, roadblocks
for me when it comes to broadcasting.
And I can only imagine, from your
standpoint, and I think that's because
I played and it's, I speak it in
X's and O's and plays and offensive
formations and things like that.
And to have to break that down,
it really makes me learn more
about the sport in the process.
Because I have to then take, what I
know, how you set up for a charge, or
how you do this, and then translate it
into lay, layman's terms, basically.
And it, it's so interesting, the
way I've had to explain things,
and I'm sure you have calls where
you're like, how do I say this in
a way that's gonna reach everybody?
And, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tracey: I think that's part of it.
that's part of the excitement, for
me is to like, this is a sport that I
love and I'm passionate about and, has
been a part of my life for a long time.
and I think that there are a lot of eyes
and ears, especially now more than ever
on, you Women's soccer in general, that,
didn't grow up watching soccer, that are
new to the sport, or maybe have never
seen a game before ever, and they're
watching Angel City for the first time.
So I want to make sure that
they feel like, this is.
they're understanding the intricacies
enough to know that there's more to the
game than maybe what they thought before,
but also not feel like, man, they're so
far behind that I don't really get it.
so yeah, I, I definitely understand what
you're saying and feel like there is,
a level of trying to layer things in
that, that are happening on the game,
but also keeping it at a level where
everybody can relate to and understand.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855: I
will say that I'm that target audience.
Ang: Yeah, I was gonna
say Mario's a casual
Tracey: I love it.
I love
Ang: and I'm over here,
Tracey: that's great.
Ang: stats and playing time and how that
relates to this and that and the other
thing, and he's just what does this mean?
Tracey: But that's a part of it, right?
That's, that's what's so exciting.
I think at this time for women's soccer
again, specifically, just that people
care that people are, digging up stats
are looking at, possession percentages
and trying to dissect the game.
I just, I
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855:
Yeah, I'm essentially
the color commentator on our podcast.
I'm the vibes and feelings
and I'm like, that felt good.
Angela will give it the numbers behind it.
Tracey: I love it.
Ang: How did you and Isaac,
develop your dynamics?
I feel like you two came out of the gate.
just together.
And it was very, it felt like seamless.
Like you had just been
calling games forever.
had you worked together previously
or is this just, you guys just fit?
Tracey: you.
Thank you.
Yeah, no, we had never worked together
prior and, honestly, the, from the
very first few minutes of the first
game, I was like, wow, this is easy.
he makes it so easy and
we had great chemistry.
And, I just feel when, there's
an opening for me to throw
in something or when he needs
Ang: Yeah.
Tracey: or the ball goes
out of bounds or something.
yeah, I just, I definitely, have had to
learn to not laugh at every single thing
that he says, cause he is hilarious.
He throws those one
liners out left and right.
and I just, he cracks me up, but,
yeah, no, I've been very fortunate to.
To be alongside such a pro,
he's an amazing person to
work next to and alongside.
And I feel like I've been lucky, to
have these mentors along the way,
even from the very beginning, just
working with some incredible people.
And they have made it, have given
me advice from, the very first
couple of years till now, just.
Trying to learn.
I think I come at things with
open arms that, I love learning.
I love getting better.
As I said, I'm a competitor, so
I want to learn how to do things
and I like to do things right.
I feel like I always have been lucky
to have partners that aren't afraid
to give me advice or tell me how to
do things, maybe better or whatever.
And I think Isaac is, again, another
one of those people that I've been
blessed to be able to work alongside.
Ang: that's
so great.
That makes me really happy.
Tracey: Yeah, no, it's
been a fun ride, for sure.
Lots of laughs.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855: So
I had a question about the press box.
I've always heard the press
box like, when you're up there.
You're, you have to be professional,
everybody, you can't get overly excited,
but you guys are the calling the game,
so you, there's an emotion that you have
to convey, so how does it differ between,
everybody else that's supposed to be,
like, respectful or quiet in the press
box, but you guys are, calling everything
as it happens?
Tracey: thankfully, we have our own suite.
So we have our own room that is separate
from the press box because I feel like it
would be too rowdy, too crazy in there.
So yeah, the press box, it extends
and there's a couple of suites
that have their own, booth or
whatever that the doors shut.
So it's just, Us in there in the booth,
and then we have Jake Warner, who's
usually our sound technician in there
as well, giving us all those good sounds
that you can hear through the radio.
so yeah, we can scream, we
can yell as loud as we want.
And then, BMO has the windows
that open all the way.
So it's those, I don't know what
they call them, but the windows
that slide open all the way.
So we have A really nice view
and get to feel and see the
environment well from above.
But we're, we feel like we're in it.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855:
Oh, to be a
Ang: like the bird's nest.
Yeah,
Tracey: Yes.
Yes.
We get to, it's, it's the same level as
the press box, but we're a little bit
Ang: Just
Tracey: closer to, to midfield.
Yeah.
They're like on the end zone area.
Yeah.
Ang: Yeah.
They're back behind where my seats are.
Cause I'm in the like far corner.
So
Tracey: Okay.
Ang: we're usually like, can we see anyone
in the press box to see who's there?
Tracey: you'll see, actually sometimes
I'll have to poke my head out the
window because on the far corner,
I don't know what side that is.
I guess it's the,
Ang: The North End?
Tracey: Northwest side when there's
a corner, I have to poke my head out
the window to be able to see the ball.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855:
I think it's so exciting, to hear
just how it would be up there.
And I know, Angela and I, again,
the whole shooting our shot, we've
emailed to try to get press passes.
Don't know what the heck we
would actually do with them, but
we're like, it's an experience.
We'll see how it goes.
but.
But, but I think one of the kind of
last questions, or towards the last,
we don't ever want to cut you off or
say goodbye too early, but, what's
your favorite memory so far with ACFC?
calling them, being able to be the voice,
with Isaac, you guys are the voices.
what's your favorite memory so far?
Tracey: I think one that comes to
mind that will be forever ingrained
in my brain is that inaugural match
of the 2022 season for Angel City.
And I'll have to give a little backstory
just to back up, I mentioned that I played
professionally, and I played for the
Washington Freedom, and it was in a league
that was the first professional women's
soccer league called the WSA, back then,
I was lucky enough to be a part of that
inaugural game, and it was the Washington
Freedom against the Bay Area Cyber A's,
and it was Brandi Chastain on Bay Area.
And Mia Hamm on Washington Freedom.
So that was like the big, buildup and
excitement to launching the league.
And, I actually think
the record still stands.
I, we have 34, 000 something
fans come to that game.
And I think it still might be the
record for the most, people in
attendance for a club game in America.
so I actually got in on in that game
and just, yeah, and experience it as
a, as an athlete and as a member of
the team, obviously it's a different
experience, coming to the Angel City
game and working for iHeartRadio
and doing the radio broadcast.
But, I will say there were just so
many parallels to that game for me.
Billie Jean King was there.
They had, it was just a
big production, right?
You had all kinds of attention, Tons
of fans there, and for me, coming from
UCLA, I think aside from that national
championship game, that was, obviously
the biggest game I had ever been a
part of, or, the most people watching a
game that I have ever played in, so it
was a big deal, and, The first women's
professional, soccer league in the world.
so that Angel City game for me, to
see Billie Jean King on the field, to
feel like, it was just like, it was
there, Mia was down there, I think
Brandy might've been down there.
all the founders and a lot of the
players that were in that first WUSA
League were down there on the field.
it was just really special and actually
I got emotional like before the kickoff.
It just like all hit me.
I didn't think, it would,
but, it was special.
It was special to see how far.
Women's soccer has come and special for me
to understand like, wow, this is a group
of investors and founders of this, Angel
City club that want to do things the right
way and are saying and pledging that they
are going to do things the right way.
And they want to make a difference, not
just for soccer and not just for, women's
soccer, but for women's sports in general.
And they, I feel like from that
moment on have set the bar.
For women's sports and they have
changed a lot for women's sports
and, have started this avalanche
of momentum for women's sports.
and yeah, it just was a really special
day to see how far things have come and
to see the women that were, that are on
the team be given this awesome opportunity
and incredible chance to be able to play a
game that they and do it at a level that.
Back then, you couldn't even dream
up, of course, like I said, we
got a lot of fans for that game.
But to tell a little bit more about the
story, the league eventually folded.
I think it went three
years and then folded.
and then there were different iterations
trying to come back and, and then the NWSL
was launched, but, just seeing Angel City.
And the way and hearing and seeing
and feeling how it was different.
And I, yeah,
like I could, I knew things
were, in the right people's
hands and I made me very excited.
That day was awesome.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855:
Yeah, we've mentioned that it's
one of our favorite days, too.
it's just, it's, it, the feeling
of 22, 000 people being there
for, the, this women's team in L.
A.
and all the stuff that has been done.
Yeah.
leading up to it, and being
like, look, you have fans here,
and there are people that want
to support this here,
Tracey: Yep.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855:
has been great.
Ang: And I feel three years in,
still selling out is the biggest I
told you to anyone who doubted it.
It's like, we're not
necessarily slowing down.
And, we've joked on the show
before, I can't wait until we
have to move to another stadium.
Because it's like something has to happen.
And I'm like, when are we
going to play the Coliseum?
When are we going to
play at the Rose Bowl?
we need a bigger situation.
The Red Stars are going
to be playing at Wrigley.
Dodger Stadium's not that far.
Tracey: yep.
Good point.
Hello.
Let's put it out
there.
Let's put it out there.
But I think too, a big part of it
is that Angel City is women owned,
and I feel like having an owner or a
founder like, Julie Uhrman, who doesn't
necessarily know a lot about soccer,
doesn't necessarily know a lot about
how, the women's leagues have had these
limitations on it and she's okay, cool,
but it doesn't have to be that way.
And I'm not going to do it that way.
And I don't know.
I just, it's maybe it wasn't the right
timing back then when the WSA existed,
but I'm just happy that I get to see it
and seeing how successful Angel City has
been the San Diego wave or seeing Bay FC.
It's just, it's awesome.
Ang: Yeah.
it's just so special.
And I've seen so many iterations of
other women's leagues, basketball and,
soccer, basketball, track and field,
like local diamond league kind of
things, like all these different things.
And now everything you saw,
oh, so many softball leagues.
Yes.
And now to see these leagues get to
a point of Stability and financial
stability, fan based stability, it makes
me so happy because I just want it.
I want it for every, everyone in
general, but Every little girl
that's coming up, every 20 something
that's dang, I wish I could do that.
You still can, there's no limit to that.
And it's just special.
Tracey: it is.
And they deserve it.
They deserve it.
I think back to like when You know, I had
to figure out like what I wanted to do.
And did I want to grind and get
paid maybe 10, 000 a year to try
to wait until something came back?
No, I didn't want to do that.
so I made the choice to move on.
But I think, I think back wow,
what if there was a stable?
League and what an amazing time that would
have been to be able to play for another
10 years after college and to be able
to grow and develop because ultimately,
that's what every athlete wants, right?
They want to see how far they
can go in their potential.
And I feel I'll never know, but
I'm happy that so many people.
These women get the opportunity to
do it and to live out their dream and
to live out their love of the sport
to see how far it can take them.
I just, I'm so happy to see that it's
in a good place and it's going to
continue to grow and get bigger and
Ang: totally.
There's a big difference between
walking away because of like medical
injury or because there is no next step
Tracey: Yeah.
Ang: playing it out and just
being like, okay, it's my time.
there's such a.
a different feeling for
each one of those things.
And I'm so glad we're getting to a
point where more athletes have the
ability to do that on their own terms.
Tracey: me too.
It's about time!
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855: Yes.
Ang: Honestly.
So Tracey, aside from the I Heart
broadcast, is there anywhere
else we can catch you or are you
working on anything else or what?
Tracey: That's it, at the moment, yeah,
just doing the mom thing, doing a lot of
shuttling kids back and forth and doing
Angel City stuff, but we'll have to see.
When the college season comes around
because as you mentioned earlier,
there's no more Pac 12 So I'm not sure
how that's gonna shake out But I was
calling a lot of soccer games both for the
men's and women's on the Pac 12 network
So I'll have to see how that shakes
Ang: Fingers crossed, because
I have big feelings about the
dissolution of the Patswell.
Tracey: So do
Ang: Yeah, and I think a lot of people
outside of the football world have
those similar big feelings about such
a prolific conference just dissolving
into the ether of the sports universe.
But, honestly, it's so weird.
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855: is.
Tracey: It's going to
be a weird year, right?
When the fall rolls around, it's
going to be very interesting.
Ang: seeing, across women's basketball,
how many coaches and players are
leaving schools who are in the Pac
12 to go other places because they
don't want to have to travel as far.
And I'm like, guys, what are we doing?
Tracey: it's great for football
and probably basketball, but the
other sports it's going to be a
Ang: Yeah.
And the women's sports as a
whole, just because of funding.
But on a better note.
We still get to hear you every Angel
City game on iHeart, so we will plug
it forever and ever, amen, because we
love it so much, but make sure if you
cannot make it to a game that you check
the Angel City station on iHeartRadio,
on the app, on The radio, I don't
even know how to find it on the radio.
I just find it on my phone.
Tracey: Yeah.
Ang: It's
Tracey: I think that's the best place to
mario-number-2_1_04-22-2024_205855: Yeah,
Ang: but thank you for being here.
Thank you for hanging out with us and
taking the time to let us brag about
you and tell you how cool you are.
And then also just tell us cool stuff.
Tracey: thank you.
Thank you both for having me.
It's been an honor to even be
asked to be on here and it's been
so much fun talking to you both.
Ang: Awesome.
hopefully we can do this again next
season or later in the season if
something crazy happens and you're
like, guys, we got to talk about this.
Just let us know.
You are always welcome to come hang
out with
us.
Tracey: Thank you so much.
Ang: All right.
Thank you again.
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