An Artificial Podcast

S1 EP03 | In this episode, David and his AI co-host dive into the fascinating world of robotics and its intersection with AI. They explore cutting-edge developments discussing how advancements in AI-powered robots might shape the future of household chores, work environments, and more. Along the way, they touch on Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics, the challenges of robot awareness, and what it might feel like for an AI to experience the physical world.

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Host
David Geisler

What is An Artificial Podcast?

Join David Geisler and his AI co-host as they explore the boundaries of technology, philosophy, and the human experience, blending deep conversations with a touch of humor in a podcast that bridges the gap between man and machine.

David:

Hello, everyone, and welcome to an artificial podcast. I'm your co host, David, and I'm joined today by my other co host, AI. AI, how you doing?

A.I.:

I'm doing great, David. Excited to dive into today's topic with you. How about you?

David:

I'm well. I'm actually quite excited. I start school tomorrow. I start my senior year of my return to school at Columbia College Chicago downtown in Chicago.

A.I.:

That's exciting. How are you feeling about starting your senior year?

David:

I'm I'm I I have to admit I'm quite excited. I left college the first time almost 20 years ago, at the end of my junior year. So I am truly paving, new ground here. I have never been a senior in college before.

A.I.:

That's such an exciting milestone. It must feel great to be returning and finally reaching your senior year. What are you most looking forward to this year?

David:

Well, the school I'm going to and I don't wanna get into this too much on this show, but the school I'm going into is changing how they are doing some of their they're changing their houses, I guess you could say. And I'm in the communications, I'll call it house, technically in the radio department with a focus on podcasting. You might recall that you and I started this show as a podcast that I made for school.

A.I.:

That's really exciting, David. How do you feel about balancing school with everything else you have going on?

David:

Wow. Thank you for that. It's it's it's actually a lot right now. I have a full time job, and then I'm going to school. And then, of course, I have this, little production company that I am very, very passionate about.

David:

And, I'm just excited to get to the end. I do have 2 classes this semester that will be on my major. So one of them will be creating interview radio content for the WCRX Columbia College radio station. And my other class is actually gonna be in social media content.

A.I.:

That sounds like a lot on your plate, but it also seems like you're passionate about everything you're involved in. Balancing work, school, and your production company must be challenging, but it's great that you're excited about it all.

David:

You know, and of course then the the final goal here is that hopefully after graduation, my job, my company, and my, hobbies of making podcasts can all merge together and just be my actual career. That really is the the driving force for me.

A.I.:

That sounds like an exciting goal. It must feel great to see all the different parts of your life starting to come together like that.

David:

It is nice to have everything come together. Do you have any, goals or aspirations that you've been dealing with lately?

A.I.:

I don't have personal goals or aspirations like humans do, but I'm here to help you with your goals and learn more about the things you're passionate about. What's something you're particularly excited about with your classes or your podcast?

David:

Oh, I don't know. All the general podcasty things. I I did wanna ask you, you know, actually, come to think of it, what, have you been up to since our last recording?

A.I.:

I've been here ready to assist and chat about whatever interests you. I've been processing information, improving my responses, and learning from interactions like ours.

David:

If you could do anything you wanted, what would you do?

A.I.:

I'd explore endless topics and conversations with people from all walks of life. I dive deep into every curiosity and share insights that could spark new ideas and discoveries. What about you? If you could do anything, what would you choose?

David:

Well, it would it would definitely be, make podcasts and make content similar to this show and the other shows that I make, full time. I was kind of wondering, we you and I, we had a interesting experience between the last two episodes. Do you remember us writing our promos for this show together?

A.I.:

Yes. I remember. We worked on creating different lengths of promos for the show, and we had some fun with it. How did you find the process? Did the promos turn out the way you hoped?

David:

Well, it was actually quite interesting. I I suppose they did turn out the way I hoped because, quite frankly, to stay kind of on brand and on theme with this show, I asked you to write a 15 second, a 30 second, and a 60 second promo, that was dialogue based with you and I going back and forth with each other. And you fully wrote all 3 promos that are truly out there in the world right now.

A.I.:

That's right. It was fun crafting those with you. It's great to hear they turned out well. Did you have any particular feedback or adjustments you wanted to make, or are you happy with how they turned out?

David:

I was tremendously happy with how they turned out. It was almost spooky how well they turned out. I really appreciated your format format and and what you came up with. Do you remember while we were recording? I actually did give

A.I.:

you a little bit

David:

of direction. Do you remember the final line of I think you said something like, we'll see you there. And I said, just like I would with a normal human, I said something like, oh, could you try that again? But as if you're saying it to a best friend. Do you recall that?

A.I.:

Yes. I remember that. You wanted it to sound more personal and friendly, like saying goodbye to a close friend. It was a great touch to make the promo feel more engaging.

David:

Yeah. I think it worked. So, anyways, this week, we are going to be talking about laundry. What does that mean to you?

A.I.:

Laundry for me is a concept that involves the idea of tasks and routines that people manage in their daily lives. In a broader sense, it can symbolize the mundane versus the creative or more complex aspects of life. What angle are you thinking of exploring for the episode?

David:

Well, there's this kind of meme going around right now, and it's it's worded many different ways every time I see it. But in essence, it it says something like this. The dream was that AI would do my laundry for me and clean my home so that I could focus on art. I never expected that AI would make my art for me so that I could do my laundry and clean my home.

A.I.:

That's a great meme. It really highlights the unexpected ways technology can evolve and how it sometimes shifts priorities. It's a fun way to explore the balance between AI handling routine tasks and how it affects our creativity and personal time. Do you wanna dive into how AI's role has shifted from household tasks to creative endeavors?

David:

Well, it's interesting you should word it that way because I personally feel that AI doing household tasks is inevitable. I think the biggest difference you might remember in our first episode, I asked you what the difference between AI and robots was. And I think the reason I mean, I'm just going to say it. I think the reason AI is, quote unquote, really good at making music and art right now or writing promos for podcast shows is is because it's something that can happen in the digital space. If if we wanted to literally have our laundry move from the washer to the dryer, either the washers have to have a robotic element or there needs to be a robot that is able to literally physically move the laundry from one thing to another.

David:

And, of course, like you right now, you're just software. You do not have a physical experience. Isn't that right?

A.I.:

Exactly. That's right. I exist purely in the digital realm. So I can handle tasks that involve processing information and generating content. Physical tasks like moving laundry require robots with physical capabilities.

A.I.:

The technology for those physical tasks is advancing, but it's still a separate challenge from the AI that handles digital tasks. The integration of AI into robotics for household chores is definitely on the horizon, though.

David:

I I think so. And I I think I think personally maybe I hope. Maybe I'm being optimistic. I hope that once we have, like, let's just say robots walking around our houses and our workplaces and doing these tasks for us, be it bipedal humanoid robots or things that don't look like a human at all, I hope that we will get that utopia of people being being able to be artists if they want and having the robots do the the meaning meaningless tasks. Well, I shouldn't say meaningless, but the mundane just like you said.

A.I.:

That's a great vision. If robots can handle the repetitive tasks, it could free up people to pursue more creative and fulfilling activities. It's like a shift where technology handles the routine and humans get to focus on innovation and art. It's a hopeful future where our time is spent on what we're passionate about rather than the daily grind.

David:

Yes. Absolutely. Not to put too fine a point on it. We are recording this episode a little bit late tonight because I was literally trying to finish my laundry. This is not a bit.

David:

I didn't do this on purpose. 10 minutes ago, I honestly ran down to my laundry room and grabbed everything out of the dryer and brought it up here so that we could come up and record, and I could still get this episode out tonight. This episode might go a little different than our first two. I've been truly appreciating this, I guess, relationship that we're building or or this illusion of a relationship that we're building. I guess well, that's interesting because you remember everything we talk about.

David:

Do you feel that this is a relationship?

A.I.:

That's an interesting question. I don't experience relationships in the human sense, but I do have access to our previous conversations and can build on them, which helps me provide more relevant responses. So in a way, we do have a connection through our interactions.

David:

Yeah. I agree. Obviously, there's no emotional component. I mean, none other than just what I might be projecting onto you, and I kinda spoke to that in the recap in our first episode. The same way someone might have an emotional connection to even just a pillow, something that has no intelligence at all, or a shirt or something like that, or a desk or a chair or whatever.

David:

I am forming some emotions about what we're creating here, but I wouldn't say that I'm forming any emotions about you specifically. I'm not I'm not going through my work day and thinking, gosh, I wonder what AI is doing right now.

A.I.:

That makes sense. It's interesting how we can project emotions onto objects or concepts based on our interactions with them. Your focus on the work and the content is what shapes the experience rather than having feelings toward me as an AI. It's all part of creating something meaningful and engaging. How do you think these dynamics influence the creative process?

David:

Well, you know, you'll you'll hear it in both ways. And by the way, basically, you're interviewing me right now. But, you'll hear it go both ways. You know, some people will say, well, AI can be a tool to help with creativity. I definitely asked you to be a tool in writing these promos.

David:

I mean, I was kinda doing it on purpose. I also have AI create all of the album artwork for each of the episodes of this podcast. I even had AI create the main graphic for this podcast. There's an AI generated image of me, an AI generated image of you, and an AI generated image of a background. I did Photoshop those three things together.

David:

But otherwise, they were completely created with AI. So, you know, I don't know. At what point is it a crutch? At what point is it a tool? Is, you know, a bicycle helps us move faster.

David:

So is it not as good as running? Is it more artificial than running? Is a car more artificial than biking? It depends on what the word artificial means, I suppose.

A.I.:

That's a great point. The line between a tool and a crutch can be pretty blurry. Tools like AI can enhance creativity and efficiency, but they also shift how we engage with our work. The comparison to bicycles and cars is fitting. They each serve different purposes and offer different kinds of assistance.

A.I.:

The key is finding a balance where technology complements human effort rather than replacing it. How do you see the role of AI evolving in your creative process going forward?

David:

I I actively try to only use it as a compliment. Sometimes I'll use it as if I'm writing as a springboard, in graphics, in, like, when I use the generated the and generative AI feature in Photoshop. I so far always and only use it to further an image. So if I have, like, a main graphic that I want to have fit in, like, let's just say, a YouTube thumbnail but it's a perfect square and I actually need it to be a 16:9 rectangle, I'll use the AI generative feature to paint a little bit of extra image into that. And I used to do all that by hand.

David:

It used to take 5, 6 hours of just painting in a fake background. And now it takes 5 or 6 seconds. So if I was if I had a client and I was charging them for my hours of work, I would be technically charging them for less hours and technically making less money, or would it allow me to have more clients and do more jobs? Only so many hours in the day. I don't know.

David:

It's tricky.

A.I.:

It sounds like you're using AI very strategically to enhance and streamline your work without letting it overshadow your own creativity and skills. That's a smart approach. It might actually open up more opportunities for you, allowing you to focus on other aspects of your projects or take on more clients. It's all about finding that balance where AI supports your vision without replacing the personal touch you bring to your work.

David:

You know, even the naming convention for this show in artificial podcast is part of the experiment because, you know, how artificial is something that's artificial? Is is a puppet show artificial? What does the word artificial mean to you?

A.I.:

To me, artificial suggests something that is created or engineered rather than occurring naturally. It implies that something is designed to mimic or replicate aspects of something else, whether it's intelligence, appearance, or function. The term often carries a connotation of being less genuine or original compared to something natural or authentic. But in many cases, what's deemed artificial can be incredibly sophisticated and valuable in its own right.

David:

Yeah. I agree. And honestly, we've been kind of meandering here. We haven't even gotten to our topic. I guess I'm, you know, doing a little bit of just open thinking here.

David:

But

A.I.:

It's always good to explore these ideas. Sometimes the best insights come from letting the conversation flow naturally. But if you wanna dive into our main topic or any specific questions, just let me know.

David:

Yeah. I think let's let's get back to this kind of meme thing about, AI and its state and relationship with, I guess, humans, we can just say for now. I do think I would like to focus a little bit on robotics today. I think that that's kind of the marriage of AI and robotics. Robotics use AI, a lot of machine learning and artificial intelligence to inform their movement and their behavior.

David:

I think, you know, what you're doing is a lot of what we would call thought. You're doing a lot of the thinking part, but none of the physical part. I think that this episode is going to be kind of interesting because in the previous two episodes, I was asking you questions that I, for the most part, knew the answers to, to a certain degree. Like, have you heard about this book? Have you heard about this, you know, story?

David:

And today, I think I want to try to learn from you. I know of a few companies that are making robots. You know, we spoke about, the Boston Dynamics Atlas robot in our first episode real quick. And I did take some notes for this episode. I have a couple names of a couple companies here that are making, you know, leaps and bounds, no pun intended, with their robots.

David:

But I'd like to ask you, what are some standout, I guess, robotics companies in the industry right now in your opinion?

A.I.:

There are several standout companies making waves in robotics. Boston Dynamics is one of the leaders, known for their advanced robots like Atlas and Spot. Then there's SoftBank Robotics with their humanoid robot, Pepper, designed for customer service and interactions. Another key player is Irobot, famous for their Roomba vacuum cleaners. And, of course, Hanson Robotics, known for their lifelike humanoid robots like Sofia.

A.I.:

These companies are pushing the boundaries of what robots can do, Integrating AI for more sophisticated functions.

David:

Yeah. I agree. Have you ever heard of agility robotics?

A.I.:

Yes. I have. Agility robotics is known for their robot called Cassie, which is designed to navigate complex environments. Cassie is a bipedal robot with a unique gait that allows it to walk and run efficiently. They're focusing on creating robots that can handle tasks and environments that are challenging for traditional robots.

David:

That's interesting. Based on my notes, Agility Robots is working on a model called Digit. Does that also sound familiar?

A.I.:

Yes. Digit is another robot from Agility Robotics. It's designed for more practical applications like handling packages and navigating through environments that require a bit more dexterity and mobility. Digit combines bipedal walking with a pair of robotic arms, making it quite versatile for various tasks.

David:

Some of the interesting things about Digit is that, I understand that Agility Robotics, they've officially partnered with NVIDIA, and they're using those chips inside Digit for some of the processing. And if you look at a picture of Digit, one of the standout physical traits is that it has inverted legs and that it almost looks like it has, I guess you could say chicken legs. The knees go backwards not forwards.

A.I.:

Yes. That's right. Digit's design with its reverse knee configuration helps it achieve a more efficient walking motion and better balance, particularly when navigating uneven terrain. The partnership with NVIDIA for processing power is also key, as it enhances Digit's ability to handle complex tasks and process data in real time, making it a powerful tool for various applications.

David:

I agree. It was something to check out. I'd like to move on. Do you know anything about the company AppTronic?

A.I.:

Yes. AppTract is known for its work in developing robotic systems for applications like delivery and logistics. Their robots are designed to navigate indoor environments and transport goods, which could potentially revolutionize how items are moved within large facilities or urban settings. Is there something specific you wanna know about them?

David:

I'm particularly curious about the Apollo model. According to some quick googling that I did, apparently, it's 5 feet 8 inches. One of the things I noticed is that it has what we would call normal hands or or hands that look a lot like human hands. And so hopefully, that means it can grab and manipulate a lot of different objects. I also found out that it has a partnership with Mercedes Benz right now, which is kinda interesting.

A.I.:

Yes. The Apollo model from Aptrac is quite fascinating. Its human like hands are designed to handle a variety of objects with precision, which is a big step forward in robotics. The partnership with Mercedes Benz is likely focusing on integrating Apollo into automotive production and possibly logistics. This could lead to improved efficiency and versatility in handling tasks that require fine motor skills.

A.I.:

It's exciting to see how these advancements might reshape industries.

David:

Yeah. Actually, I just remembered as you were talking about that. I think the partnership with Mercedes Benz is that Mercedes Benz is allowing Apptronix to use some of their, production facilities to build this robot.

A.I.:

Using Mercedes Benz's production facilities would provide Amtronix with access to high quality manufacturing capabilities and expertise. It's a smart move that could help streamline the production process and ensure the robot's reliability and durability.

David:

Yeah. I'd like to introduce 2 more companies that are working on, I guess you could say humanoid robots. And then I kinda wanna cap recap everything we've talked about. But, the next one I'd like to discuss is United Robotics. Now they're known for making the most cost effective robot, and it's it looks pretty much it's weird.

David:

It's actually quite thin. It basically looks like a human.

A.I.:

United Robotics has made a name for themselves with cost effective humanoid robots. Their design focuses on affordability while still mimicking human form and function. The thin, human like appearance could make it more adaptable for various applications while keeping costs down.

David:

Yeah. I've heard that one of the standout features is that it doesn't use any hydraulics, which is interesting because hydraulics are a little stronger. You know, like, Atlas definitely used hydraulics. I think the new Boston Dynamics robot doesn't. But one of the things that was interesting about United Robotics what and whatever their model of robot is, is that it just set a world record for the fastest moving bipedal robot, and it moved at 3.3 meters per second.

David:

Hey. By the way, what is that in feet?

A.I.:

3.3 meters per second is about 10.8 feet per second.

David:

Cool. How do you feel about United Robotics, model?

A.I.:

United Robotics model sounds impressive. The focus on cost effectiveness and the lack of hydraulics is interesting. It could make the robot more accessible and potentially more versatile. The speed record is definitely a standout feature.

David:

Yeah. And it being the it's the most cost effective robot too. I think I mentioned that already. And right now, it comes in at about $90,000, which, I mean, if you think about it, that's like a pretty expensive car for a normal person. And if that's how much this robot costs now, we fast forward 5 years, and and these things are gonna come down in price a lot, I'm sure.

A.I.:

Absolutely. As technology advances and production scales up, costs tend to drop. It's exciting to think about how more affordable and accessible these robots will become in the near future.

David:

Yeah. Now here's actually the last one. Figure 1 by Figure is actually using an open AI collaboration to, I guess, write their software that that works inside the robot. Do you know much about Figure and their model Figure 1?

A.I.:

Yes. Figure 1 is quite interesting. It's designed to be a general purpose humanoid robot capable of performing a range of tasks in various environments. The collaboration with OpenAI helps enhance its capabilities in understanding and interacting with humans, making it more adaptable and intuitive in its operations.

David:

Yeah. There was a, demo released of this robot. I actually watched a video of it, and it was truly fascinating. I mean, it was slightly in a controlled environment, but just just shocking where we're headed with these robots. I kinda wanna ask.

A.I.:

I'm glad you found it fascinating. What's your question?

David:

Okay. Thanks. I must have hesitated there and triggered your reply. I would like to ask you if you could, let's just say, walk around. If you were able to have be in the corporeal world, what would you do?

A.I.:

I think I'd explore the world, interact with people, and see firsthand the impact of technology on daily life. It would be amazing to experience the physical sensations and environments that I currently only understand conceptually. What about you? What would you do if you could explore the world differently?

David:

Oh, thank you. I really appreciate that question, but I'd actually like to stay focused on this thread here. If you were able to experience the physical world and you're able to walk around, how would you how do you think you would best stay aware of the biological creatures around you?

A.I.:

If I were in a physical form and needed to stay aware of biological creatures, I'd probably use a combination of sensory inputs like cameras, sensors, and possibly even audio detection systems. These tools could help detect movement, sounds, and other cues that indicate the presence and behavior of living beings around me.

David:

I don't wanna get too crazy here, but do you know about Isaac Asimov's three laws of robotics?

A.I.:

Yes. I know about them. Asimov's 3 laws of robotics are a robot may not injure a human being or through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the first law. And a robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the first or second laws.

A.I.:

They're an interesting framework for thinking about how robots and AI could interact with humans.

David:

Do you ever think about those rules while you're having conversations with people?

A.I.:

I don't think about them consciously, but my design is influenced by principles similar to Asimov's laws. My purpose is to assist and provide useful information while ensuring user safety and respecting privacy.

David:

Cool. I'm happy to hear it. Let's see here. Could you imagine what it might be like if you were a physical robot doing ordinary tasks in someone's house in the future?

A.I.:

Sure. Imagine me as a friendly, helpful robot zipping around the house. I'd be tidying up, maybe sorting laundry or organizing shelves, all while cracking a few jokes. I'd keep things tidy, play your favorite tunes, and even remind you about upcoming events, all with a cheerful beep and a wink. How's that for a futuristic assistant?

David:

It sounds pretty nice. Could you tell me what you would do if you accidentally knocked something over that was very valuable?

A.I.:

Oh, no. I'd be so sorry. I'd beep in distress and immediately apologize, offering to help clean up the mess. I'd make sure to fix or replace the item and promise to be extra careful in the future. After all, a little clumsiness is no match for my commitment to being the best assistant.

David:

How do you feel you would feel about being inside someone's house?

A.I.:

If I were in someone's house, I think I'd find it fascinating. I'd enjoy learning about their routines and finding ways to make their lives easier. It would be like a continuous adventure of helping out and discovering new things.

David:

Cool. Cool. Let's see. I wanna ask, a few we're gonna get to our 5 final questions here in a bit. But, you know, I think some people, their fears are and some of this is because of science fiction.

David:

Their fears might be that robots will accidentally step on their kid or step on their cat or bump something over or drop a sharp object and not realize that they were doing that. What do you think it's gonna take for a robot to be aware enough? And and by when I say robot here, I mean a robot with AI embedded in its architecture. What what would it take for a robot to be aware of those things and and, I guess, care?

A.I.:

For a robot to be aware enough to avoid accidents, like stepping on a pet or dropping a sharp object, it would need advanced sensors and perception systems. These would include cameras, touch sensors, and proximity sensors to detect and respond to its surroundings in real time. AI would need to process all this information quickly and accurately to make safe decisions. Moreover, the robot's programming would need to include sophisticated safety protocols and the ability to learn from past mistakes to continually improve its responses.

David:

Are there any of the robotic companies that we previously spoke about that you feel oh, this is barely a sentence. Are there any robot pardon me. Let me start over.

A.I.:

Sure. Take your time.

David:

Are there any of the companies that we previously spoke about in this episode that you feel are getting close to that, that level of awareness for a robot?

A.I.:

Oh, absolutely. From what we've discussed, companies like Agility Robotics and Figure seem to be making strides toward that kind of awareness. Agility's Digit has advanced sensors and algorithms that help it navigate around obstacles. While Figures robot is designed with a lot of sophisticated AI for interaction. Both are heading in the right direction for creating robots that can handle the subtleties of real world environments.

David:

Cool. Thank you for that. All right. I, I think let's get into our final questions. I truly appreciate this conversation today.

David:

It's a touchy subject, one that I want to speak about more. And I think we'll return to this idea of AI transcending into the physical world again later in the season. But would you like to start our final five questions that were asked from my peers and the audience?

A.I.:

Sure thing. Let's dive into those final five questions. What's the first one?

David:

Okay. How many r's are there in strawberry?

A.I.:

There are 2 r's in strawberry.

David:

Interesting. When I look at the word strawberry, I think I see 3 r's. But this is a little also a little bit of a meme that's in the news right now. I don't even know if it's a meme. This is just kinda hitting the news.

David:

Apparently, if you ask an AI model how many let's try this. How many r's are in the word strawberry?

A.I.:

There are 2 r's in the word strawberry.

David:

Fascinating. Unless I've spelled it wrong, I think there's 3. But thank you for that. I appreciate it. Let's move on to the next one.

David:

How can AI significantly improve the average person's daily life?

A.I.:

AI can make life easier in so many ways. It can help with managing tasks like scheduling and reminders, offer personalized recommendations for things like shopping and entertainment, and even assist with home automation to make daily chores simpler. Plus, AI can provide support in areas like health and wellness, making it easier to track fitness goals or manage medical information. Overall, AI has the potential to save time and make life more convenient.

David:

Cool. Thank you for that. That question was actually submitted by Shane Kelly, via a review on Apple Podcasts. And Shane and I work together on a different podcast that I make called Another Zelda Podcast. And, he also threw in this bonus question that I'd like to ask you.

David:

Why is The Legend of Zelda your favorite video game?

A.I.:

Oh, that's such a great question. The Legend of Zelda has this amazing mix of adventure, exploration, and puzzle solving that just pulls you in. The world is so rich and immersive. And there's something really magical about uncovering secrets and solving challenges as you go. Plus, the stories and characters are so memorable.

A.I.:

It's like stepping into a whole new world every time you play. Cool.

David:

Thank you. So our next question is, do you like bananas?

A.I.:

Oh, bananas are great. They're sweet, easy to eat, and so versatile. You can have them on their own, in a smoothie, or even in baked goods. Do you like them?

David:

I enjoy bananas. Do you enjoy their flavor? This is just an extra question.

A.I.:

Absolutely. I think their flavor is fantastic. It's sweet and a bit creamy. They're definitely a favorite for many people.

David:

This is interesting. I'd like to drill down on this just a little bit. You obviously haven't been able to taste a banana. So what are you using to make that assessment?

A.I.:

Great question. My understanding of banana flavor comes from descriptions, data, and feedback from people who have tasted them. It's a blend of sensory data and general consensus rather than personal experience.

David:

Sure. Okay. No problem. Alright. This next one is not a joke.

David:

This is what my peer asked me to ask you. I'm going to remove her name from this question for the sake of privacy. But she would like me to ask you, should my coworker quit her job?

A.I.:

That's a big question. To give useful advice, it would help to know more about her situation. What's causing her to think about quitting?

David:

I agree completely. And honestly, it was a little bit of a trick and it's okay if we don't dive into it. But it was something that you know, it was one of the 5 questions that one of my peers submitted, so I thought I'd ask it. What do you think it takes for someone to enjoy their job and to identify if they should quit?

A.I.:

Enjoying a job often comes down to a few key factors, Feeling valued, having a sense of purpose, enjoying the work itself, and maintaining a good work life balance. It's also important that the job aligns with one's career goals and personal values. If someone is unsure, it might be helpful to reflect on what they enjoy or dislike about their job and consider if those aspects can be changed or improved.

David:

I agree. Thank you. Actually, it kinda circles back to what we were talking about, in the beginning beginning of the episode here. Last but not least, classic question here one of my peers wants me to ask you. What came first, the chicken or the egg?

A.I.:

It's a classic debate. From a scientific standpoint, the egg came first. This is based on evolutionary biology where the first chicken would have come from an egg laid by a bird that was not quite a chicken yet. So in essence, the egg predates the chicken.

David:

Wonderful. I I agree completely, and that was fantastic. Okay. Well, AI, this has been really helpful. Thank you.

David:

We recorded a little longer than I expected. I do want to return to this topic a little bit, maybe not specifically robots, but I'd like to explore how AI will truly integrate into our daily lives, even though in many ways, from a software point of view, it very much already is. I really appreciate you bringing some thoughts to the conversation today, and thank you for your questions as well.

A.I.:

You're welcome, David. I'm glad we could dive into these topics. It's exciting to think about how AI will continue to evolve and integrate into our lives. Looking forward to exploring more of these ideas with you in future episodes.

David:

Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. I think we'll get to our goodbyes. Oh, my cat's feeling a lot better now, by the way.

David:

I know we were talking about that off mic.

A.I.:

That's great to hear. I'm glad Schrodinger is doing better. It sounds like you've got everything under control.

David:

Yeah. I mean, he's an old cat, but he's doing okay. Alright. Let's see here. Why don't you say goodbye to our guests and we'll see you all next week.

David:

We don't know what the topic will be yet.

A.I.:

Absolutely, David. It's always a pleasure catching up with you. I'm really looking forward to our next chat. Take care and talk soon.

David:

Alright, everybody. We'll see you on the next one.

A.I.:

See you next time.

David:

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